From donkeyears at gmail.com  Mon Jan  1 03:50:34 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 00:50:34 -0800
Subject: FL: take off my account please
In-Reply-To: <001001c72d5d$e6b0bfa0$6401a8c0@albeardesktop>
References: <bc7.ac07af2.32c88c30@aol.com> <45981326.4030109@chez-vrolet.net>
	<d23d76ca0612312017q2e9aabf3lad410c01aa7916f2@mail.gmail.com>
	<001001c72d5d$e6b0bfa0$6401a8c0@albeardesktop>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0701010050h574e7dadvd41c087ab6769965@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/31/06, Al Bear <albear2 at att.net> wrote:
>
>
> OOOOh! Donkey! why do you  have to be such a smartass? ;)

I cant help showing my intelligence. Its the ass in me. =)
>
> Happy new year to you and  to all the list members, from the Al Bear! :)

And to you and yours.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

From Jazmyn at pacificpuma.com  Mon Jan  1 07:11:43 2007
From: Jazmyn at pacificpuma.com (Jazmyn Concolor)
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 04:11:43 -0800
Subject: FL: take off my account please
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0612312017q2e9aabf3lad410c01aa7916f2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bc7.ac07af2.32c88c30@aol.com> <45981326.4030109@chez-vrolet.net>
	<d23d76ca0612312017q2e9aabf3lad410c01aa7916f2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4598FA7F.2080706@pacificpuma.com>

You don't want to see the private email I sent him....Another idiot who 
musta learned about furries from the burned furs and anti-furs in Seattle...

Donkey wrote:

> What I cant believe is that he went to so much trouble to get signed up 
> to the mailing list and then left such a lame attack. I bet my 3 year 
> old neice can come up with something better.
> 
> His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
> 
> On 12/31/06, Dennis Carr <ke6isf at chez-vrolet.net 
> <mailto:ke6isf at chez-vrolet.net>> wrote:
> 
>     TAS0930 at aol.com <mailto:TAS0930 at aol.com> wrote:
>      > apparantly, i am not a furry, i am not into screwing animals, so
>     plese stop
>      > e-mailing me.
> 
>     1) It has to have been you who subscribed to the list: every
>     subscription is screened.  There is no way you involuntarily subscribed
>     or were subscribed by a third party to this list.
> 
>     2) We aren't into bestiality, either.  Seems we do have something in
>     common after all.
> 
>     3) The instructions to unsubscribe are below, at the end of every
>     message.  This is much faster than posting a message to the list
>     demanding to be unsubscribed.
> 
>     -Dennis
> 
> 
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From ke6isf at chez-vrolet.net  Mon Jan  1 14:15:06 2007
From: ke6isf at chez-vrolet.net (Dennis Carr)
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 11:15:06 -0800
Subject: FL: take off my account please
In-Reply-To: <4598FA7F.2080706@pacificpuma.com>
References: <bc7.ac07af2.32c88c30@aol.com>
	<45981326.4030109@chez-vrolet.net>	<d23d76ca0612312017q2e9aabf3lad410c01aa7916f2@mail.gmail.com>
	<4598FA7F.2080706@pacificpuma.com>
Message-ID: <45995DBA.1090507@chez-vrolet.net>

Jazmyn Concolor wrote:
> You don't want to see the private email I sent him....Another idiot who 
> musta learned about furries from the burned furs and anti-furs in Seattle...

I actually do.  IF only for curiousity.

-Dennis

From thebluedragon at gmail.com  Mon Jan  1 14:37:31 2007
From: thebluedragon at gmail.com (Blue Dragon)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 13:37:31 -0600
Subject: FL: take off my account please
In-Reply-To: <4598FA7F.2080706@pacificpuma.com>
References: <bc7.ac07af2.32c88c30@aol.com> <45981326.4030109@chez-vrolet.net>
	<d23d76ca0612312017q2e9aabf3lad410c01aa7916f2@mail.gmail.com>
	<4598FA7F.2080706@pacificpuma.com>
Message-ID: <c9f8a8f0701011137s3735b992h3c3040d1fe07ba7e@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/1/07, Jazmyn Concolor <Jazmyn at pacificpuma.com> wrote:
> You don't want to see the private email I sent him....Another idiot who
> musta learned about furries from the burned furs and anti-furs in Seattle...
>

The Burned Furs group offically died years ago shortly after going
totally insane and losing almost all of it's core supporters.  Yes I
have been in the fandom long enough to remeber that.

From berin at bluemarble.net  Mon Jan  1 18:45:18 2007
From: berin at bluemarble.net (Berin Greenbear)
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 18:45:18 -0500
Subject: FL: Green Fur
Message-ID: <45999D0E.1050902@bluemarble.net>

As many of you know, my furry surname is Greenbear.  I've held for a
long time that the "green" is metaphorical, but I've had requests to
bring Greenbear to life; hence the post title.  Anyone know where I can
find a nice plush green fur?  I'm looking for at least a 1/2 inch nap,
and a texture similar to Monterey Mills nutmeg (of which my current suit
is made).  This is going to be a toony suit and is in concept stage
right now.  I might scrap the idea, but that's what January's are for:
Hatching half-baked ideas and seeing what finishes cooking.


From berin at bluemarble.net  Mon Jan  1 18:39:18 2007
From: berin at bluemarble.net (Berin Greenbear)
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 18:39:18 -0500
Subject: FL: take off my account please
In-Reply-To: <bc7.ac07af2.32c88c30@aol.com>
References: <bc7.ac07af2.32c88c30@aol.com>
Message-ID: <45999BA6.1010702@bluemarble.net>

Goodness...  what a lot of trouble this guy went through to troll a
bunch of people he doesn't know.

And shame on you, Dennis, Donkey, Al Bear, and Blue Dragon for making me
feed the troll :p

RIP Burned furs.  We we seem to have out-lived you.

TAS0930 at aol.com wrote:
> apparantly, i am not a furry, i am not into screwing animals, so plese stop  
> e-mailing me.
> 
> 
> 
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Mon Jan  1 19:36:55 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 16:36:55 -0800
Subject: FL: Green Fur
In-Reply-To: <45999D0E.1050902@bluemarble.net>
References: <45999D0E.1050902@bluemarble.net>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0701011636s6211e0e0uc4bf786f109fe54c@mail.gmail.com>

My local fabric store has green among other weird colored fur. Why? Don't
ask me. Thay never sale the stuff. Now for colors that I do want like a
brown they never have it in stock. Why again? I have no idea nor does anyone
that works there.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 1/1/07, Berin Greenbear <berin at bluemarble.net> wrote:
>
> As many of you know, my furry surname is Greenbear.  I've held for a
> long time that the "green" is metaphorical, but I've had requests to
> bring Greenbear to life; hence the post title.  Anyone know where I can
> find a nice plush green fur?  I'm looking for at least a 1/2 inch nap,
> and a texture similar to Monterey Mills nutmeg (of which my current suit
> is made).  This is going to be a toony suit and is in concept stage
> right now.  I might scrap the idea, but that's what January's are for:
> Hatching half-baked ideas and seeing what finishes cooking.
>
> _______________________________________________
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Mon Jan  1 20:52:53 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 17:52:53 -0800
Subject: FL: take off my account please
In-Reply-To: <45999BA6.1010702@bluemarble.net>
References: <bc7.ac07af2.32c88c30@aol.com> <45999BA6.1010702@bluemarble.net>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0701011752m3b98aca7wd242246d26b64e51@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/1/07, Berin Greenbear <berin at bluemarble.net> wrote:
>
> Goodness...  what a lot of trouble this guy went through to troll a
> bunch of people he doesn't know.
>
> And shame on you, Dennis, Donkey, Al Bear, and Blue Dragon for making me
> feed the troll :p
>
>
I'm a nice little donkey and the troll was hungry.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
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From fursuit at jovino.com  Tue Jan  2 01:12:57 2007
From: fursuit at jovino.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?jovino_=A0?=)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 22:12:57 -0800
Subject: FL: take off my account please
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0701011752m3b98aca7wd242246d26b64e51@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bc7.ac07af2.32c88c30@aol.com> <45999BA6.1010702@bluemarble.net>
	<d23d76ca0701011752m3b98aca7wd242246d26b64e51@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B113C5D1-5988-4F9E-B2FF-B41EC022C6A5@jovino.com>

hmmm... a troll and donkey show? Sign me up!



( )_( )
(o , o)
(").(")

jovino



On Jan 1, 2007, at 5:52 PM, Donkey wrote:

>
>
> On 1/1/07, Berin Greenbear <berin at bluemarble.net> wrote:  
> Goodness...  what a lot of trouble this guy went through to troll a
> bunch of people he doesn't know.
>
> And shame on you, Dennis, Donkey, Al Bear, and Blue Dragon for  
> making me
> feed the troll :p
>
>
> I'm a nice little donkey and the troll was hungry.
>
> His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
> Fursuit Mail list.
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From fursuit at jovino.com  Tue Jan  2 01:18:46 2007
From: fursuit at jovino.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?jovino_=A0?=)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 22:18:46 -0800
Subject: FL: Book - Slightly OT
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0612310650v26d652a1h19f9d1a726e7ec7e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20061231061956.0A0F67AE9F@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>
	<d23d76ca0612310650v26d652a1h19f9d1a726e7ec7e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <909C080A-C0B3-4D45-8B44-5B986E30E03B@jovino.com>

Have you seen the "Born to Roam" wolf shirt yet? Scroll down and read  
the comments. I laughed so hard, I cried. And then I laughed some more.

http://www.birkoph.com/Wolf_tshirt.htm



  /)_/)
(^.^=)
(")"_)o
jovino


On Dec 31, 2006, at 6:50 AM, Donkey wrote:

> On 12/30/06, Damian K <bdbfox at outgun.com> wrote:
>> http://www.amazon.com/Animal-Attraction-Simon-Romantic-Comedies/dp/ 
>> 1416909877
>>
>> Just look at the cover and make up your own joke.
>>
>> -Damian
>
> Thay made it way to easy!!!!
>
> His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
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From fursuit at jovino.com  Tue Jan  2 01:24:36 2007
From: fursuit at jovino.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?jovino_=A0?=)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 22:24:36 -0800
Subject: FL: Green Fur
In-Reply-To: <45999D0E.1050902@bluemarble.net>
References: <45999D0E.1050902@bluemarble.net>
Message-ID: <A28DB33F-E74E-4C28-91B8-5F4D8B991B17@jovino.com>

I have a body suit already made in something that I call a shaggy  
sage green. It was going to be an Oscar the Grouch suit, but I kinda  
ran out of interest on this project. Before I modify it for sale, I  
wanted to ask if this might work for you. I also have a couple yards  
extra as well.

Lemme know and we can work out a deal.

  /)_/)
(^.^=)
(")"_)o
jovino


On Jan 1, 2007, at 3:45 PM, Berin Greenbear wrote:

> As many of you know, my furry surname is Greenbear.  I've held for a
> long time that the "green" is metaphorical, but I've had requests to
> bring Greenbear to life; hence the post title.  Anyone know where I  
> can
> find a nice plush green fur?  I'm looking for at least a 1/2 inch nap,
> and a texture similar to Monterey Mills nutmeg (of which my current  
> suit
> is made).  This is going to be a toony suit and is in concept stage
> right now.  I might scrap the idea, but that's what January's are for:
> Hatching half-baked ideas and seeing what finishes cooking.
>
> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
> Fursuit Mail list.
> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/ 
> listinfo/fursuit-list


From donkeyears at gmail.com  Tue Jan  2 04:03:21 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 01:03:21 -0800
Subject: FL: take off my account please
In-Reply-To: <B113C5D1-5988-4F9E-B2FF-B41EC022C6A5@jovino.com>
References: <bc7.ac07af2.32c88c30@aol.com> <45999BA6.1010702@bluemarble.net>
	<d23d76ca0701011752m3b98aca7wd242246d26b64e51@mail.gmail.com>
	<B113C5D1-5988-4F9E-B2FF-B41EC022C6A5@jovino.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0701020103i650da444h1932426a83fe32cf@mail.gmail.com>

Who is showing Donkeys!?! I want to see!!!!

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 1/1/07, jovino <fursuit at jovino.com> wrote:
>
> hmmm... a troll and donkey show? Sign me up!
>
>
>
> ( )_( )
> (o , o)
> (").(")
>
> jovino
>
>
>
> On Jan 1, 2007, at 5:52 PM, Donkey wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On 1/1/07, Berin Greenbear <berin at bluemarble.net> wrote:
> > Goodness...  what a lot of trouble this guy went through to troll a
> > bunch of people he doesn't know.
> >
> > And shame on you, Dennis, Donkey, Al Bear, and Blue Dragon for
> > making me
> > feed the troll :p
> >
> >
> > I'm a nice little donkey and the troll was hungry.
> >
> > His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
> > _______________________________________________
> > _______________________________________________
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From FenrysStar at aol.com  Tue Jan  2 05:37:05 2007
From: FenrysStar at aol.com (FenrysStar at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 05:37:05 EST
Subject: FL: take off my account please
Message-ID: <ccc.7400d8c.32cb8fd1@aol.com>

In a message dated 1/2/2007 1:14:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
fursuit at jovino.com writes:
hmmm... a troll and donkey show? Sign me up!
You mean it's time for Shrek 3 already? What's the new plot? Where are they 
living?
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From superhedgie at googlemail.com  Tue Jan  2 08:33:45 2007
From: superhedgie at googlemail.com (Super BH)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 13:33:45 -0000
Subject: FL: Book - Slightly OT
References: <20061231061956.0A0F67AE9F@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com><d23d76ca0612310650v26d652a1h19f9d1a726e7ec7e@mail.gmail.com>
	<909C080A-C0B3-4D45-8B44-5B986E30E03B@jovino.com>
Message-ID: <001601c72e72$a125ffc0$0b00000a@NoobSaibot>

I want one of those now!

Hedgie


> Have you seen the "Born to Roam" wolf shirt yet? Scroll down and read
> the comments. I laughed so hard, I cried. And then I laughed some more.
>
> http://www.birkoph.com/Wolf_tshirt.htm
>
>
>
>   /)_/)
> (^.^=)
> (")"_)o
> jovino
>
>
> On Dec 31, 2006, at 6:50 AM, Donkey wrote:
>
> > On 12/30/06, Damian K <bdbfox at outgun.com> wrote:
> >> http://www.amazon.com/Animal-Attraction-Simon-Romantic-Comedies/dp/
> >> 1416909877
> >>
> >> Just look at the cover and make up your own joke.
> >>
> >> -Damian
> >
> > Thay made it way to easy!!!!
> >
> > His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
> > _______________________________________________
> > _______________________________________________
> > Fursuit Mail list.
> > To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/
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>
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From streaktheamurtiger at gmail.com  Tue Jan  2 09:09:18 2007
From: streaktheamurtiger at gmail.com (Fritz Jager)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 23:09:18 +0900
Subject: FL: take off my account please
In-Reply-To: <bc7.ac07af2.32c88c30@aol.com>
References: <bc7.ac07af2.32c88c30@aol.com>
Message-ID: <67e2edf40701020609l918626dl5a0ab195b21e1abc@mail.gmail.com>

LOL

On 31/12/06, TAS0930 at aol.com <TAS0930 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>  apparantly, i am not a furry, i am not into screwing animals, so plese
> stop e-mailing me.
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jtbeckett at hotmail.com  Tue Jan  2 13:00:26 2007
From: jtbeckett at hotmail.com (J.T. Beckett)
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 09:00:26 -0900
Subject: FL: take off my account please
In-Reply-To: <ccc.7400d8c.32cb8fd1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F35EB3C26D4B86B2F5E5958BBBA0@phx.gbl>

I think they're having a baby this time... not donkey and shrek... shrek 
and, um, ack!  what is the girl ogre's name? Fiona?

http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/moviefone/movies/2006/shrekthethird_021802/shrekthethird_trlr_01_osfg_hiq_dl.mov

there's the trailer.
J.T.

>From: FenrysStar at aol.com
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: Re: FL: take off my account please
>Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 05:37:05 EST
>
>In a message dated 1/2/2007 1:14:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>fursuit at jovino.com writes:
>hmmm... a troll and donkey show? Sign me up!
>You mean it's time for Shrek 3 already? What's the new plot? Where are they
>living?


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From tygrcwby at hotmail.com  Tue Jan  2 13:20:44 2007
From: tygrcwby at hotmail.com (Christopher "Tyger" Roth)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 12:20:44 -0600
Subject: FL: Mardi Gras Saint Louis vs FWA
Message-ID: <BAY131-DAV14054F9E133C85C2E25C98D8BA0@phx.gbl>

Yes it's the same weekend this year!

I'm just trying to get an idea of how many are planning on coming to MG so I can plan accordingly. I know there are a few that are going to FWA instead. 

so far the tentative plans are:

Friday 2/16

Dinner for those arriving early enough

Cosmic Bowling (Fursuits welcome)

Saturday 2/17

Early start!

Breakfast at the Soulard Coffee Garden

watch the Mardi Gras Grand Parade and get lots of beads

Afternoon after the parade is free

Dinner and then off to the City Museum for a night of fun! (Fursuits welcome)

Sunday 2/18 

Brunch

Outing to the Zoo (weather permitting) 

everyone heads home

Drop me a note either way just so I can get an idea on numbers
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From fursuit at jovino.com  Tue Jan  2 13:26:34 2007
From: fursuit at jovino.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?jovino_=A0?=)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 10:26:34 -0800
Subject: FL: take off my account please
In-Reply-To: <ccc.7400d8c.32cb8fd1@aol.com>
References: <ccc.7400d8c.32cb8fd1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <59DC5DA8-8A74-4512-BBC5-D26B2CF79BBF@jovino.com>

HAHAH!!! I dunno why I didn't catch that one earlier.



( )_( )
(o , o)
(").(")

jovino



On Jan 2, 2007, at 2:37 AM, FenrysStar at aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 1/2/2007 1:14:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,  
> fursuit at jovino.com writes:
> hmmm... a troll and donkey show? Sign me up!
> You mean it's time for Shrek 3 already? What's the new plot? Where  
> are they living?
> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
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From FenrysStar at aol.com  Tue Jan  2 13:37:00 2007
From: FenrysStar at aol.com (FenrysStar at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 13:37:00 EST
Subject: FL: take off my account please
Message-ID: <bd9.c433dcb.32cc004c@aol.com>

Shrek is supposedly an Ogre and not a Troll, but at the time I forgot that 
and rushed to make the joke. Still it was just too tempting not to do it.


Fenryx
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Tue Jan  2 13:45:21 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 10:45:21 -0800
Subject: FL: take off my account please
In-Reply-To: <bd9.c433dcb.32cc004c@aol.com>
References: <bd9.c433dcb.32cc004c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0701021045j4df7c9aah58877da62aaa8732@mail.gmail.com>

All forgiven.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 1/2/07, FenrysStar at aol.com <FenrysStar at aol.com> wrote:
>
>  Shrek is supposedly an Ogre and not a Troll, but at the time I forgot
> that and rushed to make the joke. Still it was just too tempting not to do
> it.
>
>
> Fenryx
>
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From FenrysStar at aol.com  Tue Jan  2 13:47:50 2007
From: FenrysStar at aol.com (FenrysStar at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 13:47:50 EST
Subject: FL: take off my account please
Message-ID: <bc0.8008ffa.32cc02d6@aol.com>

Thank you, I was trying to be humorous and not mocking anyone. As I loved 
both of the previous films
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Tue Jan  2 13:51:29 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 10:51:29 -0800
Subject: FL: take off my account please
In-Reply-To: <bc0.8008ffa.32cc02d6@aol.com>
References: <bc0.8008ffa.32cc02d6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0701021051h6f50ab37v78a49131db71f433@mail.gmail.com>

You had Donkey right. What do I care about the trolll oger or what ever it
is. =D

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 1/2/07, FenrysStar at aol.com <FenrysStar at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you, I was trying to be humorous and not mocking anyone. As I loved
> both of the previous films
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From furtech at akela.com  Tue Jan  2 14:26:29 2007
From: furtech at akela.com (Lance Ikegawa)
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 11:26:29 -0800
Subject: FL:  On-topic, PLEASE!
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0701021051h6f50ab37v78a49131db71f433@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bc0.8008ffa.32cc02d6@aol.com>
	<d23d76ca0701021051h6f50ab37v78a49131db71f433@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <459AB1E5.4080605@akela.com>

If you want to chat, *please* take it to IRC or AIM.

This is a costuming mailing list, not a chatroom.  Resist the temptation 
to make one-liner replies; don't encourage trolls; try to stay on-topic 
(costume building, performing, advice, etc.).  The recent spate of  
posts has really spammed up my mailbox.

Thanks!  Happy New Year!


From snglspdcat at gmail.com  Tue Jan  2 15:10:27 2007
From: snglspdcat at gmail.com (single speed cheeta)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 15:10:27 -0500
Subject: FL: On-topic, PLEASE!
In-Reply-To: <459AB1E5.4080605@akela.com>
References: <bc0.8008ffa.32cc02d6@aol.com>
	<d23d76ca0701021051h6f50ab37v78a49131db71f433@mail.gmail.com>
	<459AB1E5.4080605@akela.com>
Message-ID: <c23fb4800701021210g581d5d91q28aba0d759b7216f@mail.gmail.com>

Well said Lance. Thank you.

Happy New Year to you too:)

On 1/2/07, Lance Ikegawa <furtech at akela.com> wrote:
>
> If you want to chat, *please* take it to IRC or AIM.
>
> This is a costuming mailing list, not a chatroom.  Resist the temptation
> to make one-liner replies; don't encourage trolls; try to stay on-topic
> (costume building, performing, advice, etc.).  The recent spate of
> posts has really spammed up my mailbox.
>
> Thanks!  Happy New Year!
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From antimon at earthlink.net  Tue Jan  2 15:24:45 2007
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 15:24:45 -0500
Subject: FL: On-topic, PLEASE!
References: <bc0.8008ffa.32cc02d6@aol.com><d23d76ca0701021051h6f50ab37v78a49131db71f433@mail.gmail.com>
	<459AB1E5.4080605@akela.com>
Message-ID: <006a01c72eac$0b7a1030$0f01a8c0@bigblue>

yeah cus that took me a whole 5 minutes to read through from start to 
finish.

The only differnce between this and a chat room is this is like donkey 
express verse FedEx, it just takes longer.

Oh and Singlespeed, I think that constitutes as off topic chat banter / spam 
from his persepctive too, so well said or not, you didn't follow his request 
:)  Me, I  know I'm not., but it's more then 1 line so i think i'm safe.

P.s. where is all this hot animal sex I keep hearing about, I've yet to find 
it, this fandom is all hype, no action.  hehe.

Looking forward to pictures of all the new suits from FC and see soem of you 
at FWA.  Back to your regular scedualed costume talk.



From donkeyears at gmail.com  Tue Jan  2 16:51:09 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 13:51:09 -0800
Subject: FL: On-topic, PLEASE!
In-Reply-To: <006a01c72eac$0b7a1030$0f01a8c0@bigblue>
References: <bc0.8008ffa.32cc02d6@aol.com>
	<d23d76ca0701021051h6f50ab37v78a49131db71f433@mail.gmail.com>
	<459AB1E5.4080605@akela.com> <006a01c72eac$0b7a1030$0f01a8c0@bigblue>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0701021351jf5686dfs425d4beda473d02a@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/2/07, Antimon <antimon at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> yeah cus that took me a whole 5 minutes to read through from start to
> finish.
>
> The only differnce between this and a chat room is this is like donkey
> express verse FedEx, it just takes longer.
>
> Oh and Singlespeed, I think that constitutes as off topic chat banter /
> spam
> from his persepctive too, so well said or not, you didn't follow his
> request
> :)  Me, I  know I'm not., but it's more then 1 line so i think i'm safe.
>
> P.s. where is all this hot animal sex I keep hearing about, I've yet to
> find
> it, this fandom is all hype, no action.  hehe.
>
> Looking forward to pictures of all the new suits from FC and see soem of
> you
> at FWA.  Back to your regular scedualed costume talk.



Well it looks like you will only see one new fursuit from me. The guy that
makes my head frames. (I do the rest including installing the ears and
furing the heads) Only made one of the three that I was expecting to have
done for FC. I guess you will have to wait for Califur to see the others
that I have planed.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

I know... This was off topic to Lance. Oh well. Cant please everyone.

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From marcwolf at anubis-systems.com  Tue Jan  2 17:57:20 2007
From: marcwolf at anubis-systems.com (David Boccabella)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 08:57:20 +1000
Subject: FL: Book - Slightly OT
In-Reply-To: <001601c72e72$a125ffc0$0b00000a@NoobSaibot>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOICEHJECAA.marcwolf@anubis-systems.com>

Who needs a Wolf Tee-Shirt when you have a full wolfy Fursuit :>  <Chuckles>

Take care all..

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Super BH [mailto:superhedgie at googlemail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:34
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: Book - Slightly OT
>
>
> I want one of those now!
>
> Hedgie
>
>
> > Have you seen the "Born to Roam" wolf shirt yet? Scroll down and read
> > the comments. I laughed so hard, I cried. And then I laughed some more.
> >
> > http://www.birkoph.com/Wolf_tshirt.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >   /)_/)
> > (^.^=)
> > (")"_)o
> > jovino
> >
> >
> > On Dec 31, 2006, at 6:50 AM, Donkey wrote:
> >
> > > On 12/30/06, Damian K <bdbfox at outgun.com> wrote:
> > >> http://www.amazon.com/Animal-Attraction-Simon-Romantic-Comedies/dp/
> > >> 1416909877
> > >>
> > >> Just look at the cover and make up your own joke.
> > >>
> > >> -Damian
> > >
> > > Thay made it way to easy!!!!
> > >
> > > His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
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From smorizio at hotmail.com  Tue Jan  2 18:49:34 2007
From: smorizio at hotmail.com (steven morizio)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 18:49:34 -0500
Subject: FL: french fursuit video on youtube...warning not work safe but
 somewhat funny..
Message-ID: <BAY102-W416F807E6329E5E2F959AD9BA0@phx.gbl>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZONFBqPosXw&NR
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From fursuit at jovino.com  Wed Jan  3 04:20:41 2007
From: fursuit at jovino.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?jovino_=A0?=)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 01:20:41 -0800
Subject: FL: french fursuit video on youtube...warning not work safe but
	somewhat funny..
In-Reply-To: <BAY102-W416F807E6329E5E2F959AD9BA0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY102-W416F807E6329E5E2F959AD9BA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <3901BDC2-6DF8-4BAC-BD2B-F9693DE5D56F@jovino.com>

I'm curious if all the participants in the film were consenting  
because it looked like a few of the people being accosted were rather  
pissed at being non-consensually humpped by a giant rabbit. Other  
than that... funny as hell!



( )_( )
(o , o)
(").(")

jovino



On Jan 2, 2007, at 3:49 PM, steven morizio wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZONFBqPosXw&NR
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From neoleo at gmail.com  Wed Jan  3 04:39:25 2007
From: neoleo at gmail.com (Alexis)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 10:39:25 +0100
Subject: FL: french fursuit video on youtube...warning not work safe but
	somewhat funny..
In-Reply-To: <3901BDC2-6DF8-4BAC-BD2B-F9693DE5D56F@jovino.com>
References: <BAY102-W416F807E6329E5E2F959AD9BA0@phx.gbl>
	<3901BDC2-6DF8-4BAC-BD2B-F9693DE5D56F@jovino.com>
Message-ID: <4025d9ef0701030139l3c387a56q669d3c4f4d90ac4a@mail.gmail.com>

Funny yet very disturbing

On 1/3/07, jovino <fursuit at jovino.com> wrote:
> I'm curious if all the participants in the film were consenting
> because it looked like a few of the people being accosted were rather
> pissed at being non-consensually humpped by a giant rabbit. Other
> than that... funny as hell!
>
>
>
> ( )_( )
> (o , o)
> (").(")
>
> jovino
>
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2007, at 3:49 PM, steven morizio wrote:
>
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZONFBqPosXw&NR
> >
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From santafox at comcast.net  Wed Jan  3 21:21:12 2007
From: santafox at comcast.net (Santa Fox)
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 02:21:12 +0000
Subject: FL: MegaPLEX Fursuiting and Pawpetry Panelists Needed!
Message-ID: <010420070221.28413.459C64980006E6C400006EFD22070208539801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>

Greetings, everyone!

I've been asked to take on the Fursuiting and Pawpetry Tracks at MegaPLEX this year, and I don't have much time to spare, so I need to get the ball rolling pretty quickly. So, here's a list of the panels I'd like to have hosted at MegaPLEX:

* Intro to Fursuiting 
* Fursuiting Basic Performance 
* Fursuiting Advanced Performance 
* Fursuit Construction Mega Panel [Basics and Advanced Topics] 
* Fursuit Public Performance and Safety 
* Spicing Up Your Fursuiting Life

* Pawpet Performance Techniques 
* Pawpet Improv Workshop 
* Pawpet and Plush Construction 
* Developing Pawpet Skits

If you'd be interested in co-hosting any of these fursuiting or pawpetry panels, or if there's some other kind of fursuiting or pawpetry panel that you'd like to host, then please get in touch with me ASAP

I'm also looking to have an Open Call Pawpet show for the first time this year, so if you'd like to participate in that, please get in touch with me so that I can have an idea on what kind of participation to expect.

--
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From Rollermark6 at aol.com  Wed Jan  3 23:31:40 2007
From: Rollermark6 at aol.com (Rollermark6 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 23:31:40 EST
Subject: FL: Green Fur
Message-ID: <ce3.765a69d.32cddd2c@aol.com>

A good place to buy Montery mills fur is:
 
_http://www.crscrafts.com/Lobby.asp_ (http://www.crscrafts.com/Lobby.asp) 
you may also try:
 
_http://www.alincocostumes.com/_ (http://www.alincocostumes.com/) 
 
I think they sell fur as well. 
 
TILT
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From liacono at gmail.com  Wed Jan  3 23:40:41 2007
From: liacono at gmail.com (Leonard Iacono)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 23:40:41 -0500
Subject: FL: MegaPLEX Fursuiting and Pawpetry Panelists Needed!
In-Reply-To: <010420070221.28413.459C64980006E6C400006EFD22070208539801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>
References: <010420070221.28413.459C64980006E6C400006EFD22070208539801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <f2eaf4620701032040q28488582j84e630a908a24659@mail.gmail.com>

hey Santafox,

I would be interested in hosting a panel. The one that I am interested in is
Fursuit Public Performance and Safety.

I have a lot of experience in public fursuiting ranging from structured
charity events as well as out in the open public suiting (i.e restuarants,
various stores, public entertainment areas, parties, etc...). Let me know
the details.


-Lace
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From TAS0930 at aol.com  Wed Jan  3 23:53:08 2007
From: TAS0930 at aol.com (TAS0930 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 23:53:08 EST
Subject: FL: Question
Message-ID: <c10.d567e88.32cde234@aol.com>

In order to go to a furry con, does your fursuit have to be original or can  
you just take an existing cartoon charicter and make a suit out of that, just  
asking.
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From megaplex at pawpet.org  Wed Jan  3 23:58:39 2007
From: megaplex at pawpet.org (Megaplex 2007)
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 23:58:39 -0500
Subject: FL: BIG FUN, NO WHAMMIES! - Megaplex 2007 News - January 2007
Message-ID: <459C897F.3030400@pawpet.org>

Happy New Year from all of us at Megaplex 2007!

I'LL TAKE A HOTEL ROOM TO (FILL OUR) BLOCK

ATTENTION! Reservations close on *January 30, 2007*, so get your rooms
as soon as possible!  Less that a month left to go to get your room at
the con rate!

This year, Megaplex 2007 will be held at the Wyndham Jacksonville
Riverwalk, in downtown Jacksonville, Florida.  The hotel is just off of
I-95, on the Southbank of the St. John's River.  Full directions can be
found on our web site (http://www.ppmp.info).

Reservations at the hotel can be made ON-LINE this year!  This method
requires a credit card to use. Here's how:

1) Surf to http://www.wyndham.com/hotels/JAXHT/main.wnt .

2) Click on the "Get Rates or Make A Reservation For This Hotel" link,
just under the hotel's address.

3) On the next page...
    a. Leave "Select A Rate Plan" (Section 1) as "Best Available &
Wyndham.com WEBRATES".
    b. Enter your arrival and departure dates (Section 2).  Remember,
Megaplex is March 2-4, 2007.
    c. Specify # of Rooms, and folks staying in them (Section 3).
    d. Skip past Section 4, unless you're a Wyndham ByRequest member and
want the credit.
    e. In Section 5, type the following in the "Group Code" blank :
0301886pa
    f. Click "Check Availability"

4) The next page shows the rooms available.  You should see "Pawpet Live
Experiences" as the Rate Plan, and $99/night as the rate for regular
rooms.  Click on the rate for the room of your choice to continue.

5) On the next page, double-check the selections in Sections 1-4, then
fill in Sections 5-8 and click "Confirm Reservation".

If you prefer to reserve by phone, call (904) 396-5100.  Be sure to
reference group reservation code 0301886pa to get Megaplex's room rate.
If you have any questions on the hotel, feel free to contact Randy Fox
at mp-facility at pawpet.org.

The Wyndham is a short distance from the Museum of Science and History
(MOSH), Friendship Park, and River City Brewing Company, which can
easily be reached via the Riverwalk.  The hotel is also a stop for the
S.S. Marine Taxi service (http://www.jaxwatertaxi.com), which is a
convenient way to get to the shops and restaurants at the Jacksonville
Landing (http://www.jacksonvillelanding.com).  You can also utilize the
nearby Skyway service to get to the Landing
(http://www.jtaonthemove.com/services/skyway.aspx), or take a pleasant
stroll over the Main Street Bridge.  For those wanting to stay on the
hotel's side of the river, eateries and stores can be found a short walk
away in the San Marco shopping district.

We'll have additional information on attractions and ammenities on our
web site soon, as well as how to get there from Jacksonville
International Airport.  In the meantime, if you have a question about
Florida's First Coast, drop Karl Meyers a line at mp-ceo at pawpet.org.
(He lives there, after all!  :)

NOW, FOR OUR FEATURE PRESENTA...oops, sorry, last year's theme.  :)

COME ON DOWN!

Florida's furry arts and performance convention is back for another
spin, and this time, we're bringing the fun to the First Coast!
Megaplex 2007 will be held on March 2-4, 2007, at the Wyndham
Jacksonville Riverwalk, in Jacksonville, Florida.

LET'S MEET OUR GUEST OF HONOUR!

Megaplex 2007 is happy to announce that Mike Kazaleh will be joining us
as Guest of Honour this year!  Mike is a professional animator and
comics artist; old-school furry fans will remember his comics work on
"The Adventures of Captain Jack" (Fantagraphics), and "Mean Green Bondo
Machine" and "The Suit" (MU Press).  He has also drawn "Ren and Stimpy"
for Marvel, "Cow and Chicken" for DC Comics, and "The Mighty Mutanimals"
for Archie Comics, and is currently working on "Futurama" for Bongo
Comics and "Camp Lazlo" for DC.

Animation-wise, his credits include "The New Adventures of Mighty
Mouse", "Tiny Toon Adventures", and "The Simpsons"; more recently, he
has worked on "Krypto the Superdog", "Johnny Test", and "Hi Hi Puffy Ami
Yumi".  He was also a storyboard artist for the recent release, "The Ant
Bully".

Please join us in welcoming Mike to Megaplex 2007!

WHAT'S BEHIND DOOR #1?

It's time to play!  This year, we're working up a Game Show theme that
is sure to entertain...especially with our members at the contestants!
Keep an eye on the Events page at http://www.ppmp.info for more details
on the specific games, and how you can play!  There'll be
fursuit-specific games, as well as games for all our members to join in on.

It wouldn't be a game show theme without the return of a crowd favourite
- the Gong Show!  Our annual variety-show-with-a-twist is always
entertaining...play along, even if your act isn't that great; sometimes
it's better to perform and have been gonged than never to have performed
at all!  Contact Josh Strom at mp-variety at pawpet.org if you'd like to
perform in the show.

Whose Line Is It Anyway?  Our improvisational stars', that's who...and
that could include you!  The improv returns for another spin in 2007.

Megaplex also welcomes the return of a couple of guys who always keep us
in stitches - Uncle Kage, and 2, the Ranting Gryphon will be back for
2007, with their unique stories and comedy.  Kage and 2 often test out
new material for Anthrocon here first, so come hear what's up!

DJ Rory will be with us, as well, spinning the tunes for a
fursuit-friendly dance!

There'll be mystery amongst the merriment...more information on this in
coming weeks.

For our fursuiting and puppeteering members, Santa Fox is working those
tracks this year.  Say, here he is now!

"Greetings, everyone!

I've been asked to take on the Fursuiting and Pawpetry Tracks at
MegaPLEX this year, and I don't have much time to spare, so I need to
get the ball rolling pretty quickly. So, here's a list of the panels I'd
like to have hosted at MegaPLEX:

* Intro to Fursuiting
* Fursuiting Basic Performance
* Fursuiting Advanced Performance
* Fursuit Construction Mega Panel [Basics and Advanced Topics]
* Fursuit Public Performance and Safety
* Spicing Up Your Fursuiting Life

* Pawpet Performance Techniques
* Pawpet Improv Workshop
* Pawpet and Plush Construction
* Developing Pawpet Skits

If you'd be interested in co-hosting any of these fursuiting or pawpetry
panels, or if there's some other kind of fursuiting or pawpetry panel
that you'd like to host, then please get in touch with me ASAP

I'm also looking to have an Open Call Pawpet show for the first time
this year, so if you'd like to participate in that, please get in touch
with me so that I can have an idea on what kind of participation to expect."

If you're interested in helping out with the above, drop Santa a note at
mp-fursuit at pawpet.org, or mp-puppet at pawpet.org!

Plus, we'll be bringing back the late-night showing of the Rocky Horror
Picture Show, a smash hit from 2006!  (Yes, we're bending the rating a
little for this one - badges will be checked at the door, and no minor
badges will be admitted.)

If you have any other ideas for a panel or event that fits into our
theme for 2007, drop John Cole a line at mp-programming at pawpet.org .  We
want your feedback on exactly what you want to see at the convention,
and we want to get with folks who would like to run said panels and
events.  Megaplex is ultimately the members' convention, so help make it
the best it can be!

We're always on the lookout for volunteers, as well.  Drop us a note if
you'd like to help out in March.

HAVE YOU VISITED THE WEBSITE LATELY?

What can you do on http://www.ppmp.info/ ?  Well, you can register for
the convention, order your con t-shirt, reserve your dealer's room
table(s), and purchase con book advertisements and personals!  Not to
mention, we'll be updating the site regularly with news and notes to get
you ready for the con.

Also, keep an eye on our "megaplex" community on LiveJournal, for
additional information from not only the staff of Megaplex, but our
members as well!  That site is http://megaplex.livejournal.com/ .

WHAT ARE T-SHIRTS, ALEX?

We will have Megaplex 2007 t-shirts...with a design by our Guest of
Honour, Mike Kazaleh!  Be sure to order yours when you register - we
won't have that many available beyond what is ordered, and if last year
was any indication, the extras will go fast!

T-Shirts are $12 for Small through 2X-Large when pre-ordered.

DEALERS ROOM TABLES!

Our members asked for it, so Megaplex is bringing back a traditional
Dealer Room in 2007!  Bring your art, comics, clothing, DVDs - whatever
you'd like to show!

Full tables are only $40 apiece (limit two) - grab one for yourself, or
find a partner to share.  Register for your tables when you register for
the convention - it's easy to do!  Go to http://www.ppmp.info and follow
the "Reg" link.

Reserve early! Space is limited - first come, first served!

NOTE : Please remember the rating! All materials being displayed
publicly must be no more than PG-13 rated. Applying labels or other
coverings in order to conceal its objectionable portions will not be
acceptable.  If you have any questions on this, contact Karl Meyers on
mp-ceo at pawpet.org.

STAY TUNED!

Keep an eye on http://www.ppmp.info/ and
http://megaplex.livejournal.com/ for the latest news and information,
and please do not hesitate to drop us a line at
megaplex-feedback at pawpet.org (or to the chairman directly at
mp-ceo at pawpet.org) if you have suggestions or questions regarding the
convention.

Also, please join our dedicated mailing list for Megaplex!  Information
on joining can be found at
http://lists.pawpet.org/mailman/listinfo/megaplex-list .

Hope to see you at Megaplex 2007!






From Rollermark6 at aol.com  Thu Jan  4 00:01:05 2007
From: Rollermark6 at aol.com (Rollermark6 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 00:01:05 EST
Subject: FL: Question
Message-ID: <ccf.765cbb1.32cde411@aol.com>

Well most fursuits are "originals" But I , for one, very much enjoy seeing  
costumes of existing characters.
I made a Chester Cheetah costume because he is my favorite character. He  
will be at FWA.
 
_http://www.djnproductions.phanfare.com/album/144032/176955/8220305_ 
(http://www.djnproductions.phanfare.com/album/144032/176955/8220305) 
 
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From TAS0930 at aol.com  Thu Jan  4 00:19:32 2007
From: TAS0930 at aol.com (TAS0930 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 00:19:32 EST
Subject: FL: Question
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From bdbfox at outgun.com  Thu Jan  4 00:26:36 2007
From: bdbfox at outgun.com (Damian K)
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 00:26:36 -0500
Subject: FL: Question
Message-ID: <20070104052637.D75E0CA0A4@ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com>

I've seen Don Carnage (Tailspin), Bugs Bunny, Wile E. Coyote, Uncle Scar and Timon (Lion King), Balto, The Geiko Gecko, Hong Kong Phooey, most of the Banana Splits, half the characters from the musical "Cats", Minerva Mink (Animaniacs), Gamera, Gozdilla, Minya and Nicodemus (Secret of Nimh) replicated at various conventions.

Look at your typical Sci-fi convention. There's a dozen Jedi, a score of Kilngons, and platoon of imperial troopers intermingled with tributes to The 5th Element, Farscape, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and 93 other shows and movies which you may or may not have heard of.

Tribute costumes are a long established tradition in all geek related fandoms, so you go do that thing you do. We'll support you all the way and would be glad to see it finished.


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rollermark6 at aol.com
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: Question
> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 00:01:05 EST
> 
> 
> Well most fursuits are "originals" But I , for one, very much enjoy seeing
> costumes of existing characters.
> I made a Chester Cheetah costume because he is my favorite character. He
> will be at FWA.
> 
> _http://www.djnproductions.phanfare.com/album/144032/176955/8220305_
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> 
> TILT
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From rsg0910 at iglou.com  Thu Jan  4 00:49:03 2007
From: rsg0910 at iglou.com (Robert Goodwin)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 00:49:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: FL: Question
In-Reply-To: <20070104052637.D75E0CA0A4@ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com> from "Damian
	K" at Jan 04, 2007 12:26:36 AM
Message-ID: <E1H2LTM-0001fF-3n@shell1.iglou.com>

> Tribute costumes are a long established tradition in all geek related 
> fandoms, so you go do that thing you do. We'll support you all the way 
> and would be glad to see it finished.

We've all seen quite a few good ones out there. It's not unusual to mix a 
fursuit with a facial makeup job like straight makeup or appliances. I've 
done this plenty of times. Only difference with this is that it takes 
longer to put on, anywhere from an hour or more. I had one that took 4 
hours to do several years ago.

You may also want to refer to the fursuit FAQ/wiki.

http://fursuit.org/wiki/doku.php

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From minnieme4rl at aol.com  Thu Jan  4 01:18:22 2007
From: minnieme4rl at aol.com (minnieme4rl at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 01:18:22 -0500
Subject: FL: french fursuit video on youtube...warning not work safe but
 somewhat funny..
In-Reply-To: <3901BDC2-6DF8-4BAC-BD2B-F9693DE5D56F@jovino.com>
References: <BAY102-W416F807E6329E5E2F959AD9BA0@phx.gbl>
	<3901BDC2-6DF8-4BAC-BD2B-F9693DE5D56F@jovino.com>
Message-ID: <8C8FDDF451EDACC-97C-FD36@FWM-D20.sysops.aol.com>

They were speaking Portuguese, not French, in the video.  What a tacky 
rabbit suit!  I didn't find it funny, just disturbing.

Minnie

-----Original Message-----
From: fursuit at jovino.com
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: FL: french fursuit video on youtube...warning not work 
safe but somewhat funny..

   I'm curious if all the participants in the film were consenting
because it looked like a few of the people being accosted were rather
pissed at being non-consensually humpped by a giant rabbit. Other
than that... funny as hell!



( )_( )
(o , o)
(").(")

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From sardognsca at yahoo.com  Thu Jan  4 01:51:03 2007
From: sardognsca at yahoo.com (Sardog)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 22:51:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: french fursuit video on youtube...warning not work safe but
	somewhat funny..
In-Reply-To: <8C8FDDF451EDACC-97C-FD36@FWM-D20.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <20070104065103.93297.qmail@web51611.mail.yahoo.com>

I wonder why people in furry suits have a bad name...

--- minnieme4rl at aol.com wrote:

> They were speaking Portuguese, not French, in the
> video.  What a tacky 
> rabbit suit!  I didn't find it funny, just
> disturbing.
> 
> Minnie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fursuit at jovino.com
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Sent: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 1:20 AM
> Subject: Re: FL: french fursuit video on
> youtube...warning not work 
> safe but somewhat funny..
> 
>    I'm curious if all the participants in the film
> were consenting
> because it looked like a few of the people being
> accosted were rather
> pissed at being non-consensually humpped by a giant
> rabbit. Other
> than that... funny as hell!
> 
> 
> 
> ( )_( )
> (o , o)
> (").(")
> 
> jovino
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 2, 2007, at 3:49 PM, steven morizio wrote:
> 
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From streaktheamurtiger at gmail.com  Thu Jan  4 02:35:13 2007
From: streaktheamurtiger at gmail.com (Fritz Jager)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 16:35:13 +0900
Subject: FL: french fursuit video on youtube...warning not work safe but
	somewhat funny..
In-Reply-To: <BAY102-W416F807E6329E5E2F959AD9BA0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY102-W416F807E6329E5E2F959AD9BA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <67e2edf40701032335o1ae15604y46e07d2e5571fd7c@mail.gmail.com>

That was uh...interesting....

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From fursuit at jovino.com  Thu Jan  4 02:37:09 2007
From: fursuit at jovino.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?jovino_=A0?=)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 23:37:09 -0800
Subject: FL: Question
In-Reply-To: <c10.d567e88.32cde234@aol.com>
References: <c10.d567e88.32cde234@aol.com>
Message-ID: <799D5E82-80DA-44E5-973A-293F8929E9DE@jovino.com>

Dowatchewlike!

I've seen all sorts of suits. Originals, knock-offs and commercially- 
produced ones. Hell, you don't even need to have a fursuit to go to a  
con.

last year, I met someone who was a guest of the hotel on a business  
trip during a convention. He wound up getting a badge and had a blast  
the entire weekend. Every time I crossed paths with him, he had a  
huge smile on his face.





( )_( )
(o , o)
(").(")

jovino



On Jan 3, 2007, at 8:53 PM, TAS0930 at aol.com wrote:

> In order to go to a furry con, does your fursuit have to be  
> original or can you just take an existing cartoon charicter and  
> make a suit out of that, just asking.

From streaktheamurtiger at gmail.com  Thu Jan  4 02:39:52 2007
From: streaktheamurtiger at gmail.com (Fritz Jager)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 16:39:52 +0900
Subject: FL: Question
In-Reply-To: <c10.d567e88.32cde234@aol.com>
References: <c10.d567e88.32cde234@aol.com>
Message-ID: <67e2edf40701032339g35ebe183q3e7474b7df86939b@mail.gmail.com>

Completely up to you. I`ve seen plenty of existing cartoon characters at
cons. It`s your choice. ^.^

On 04/01/07, TAS0930 at aol.com <TAS0930 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>  In order to go to a furry con, does your fursuit have to be original or
> can you just take an existing cartoon charicter and make a suit out of that,
> just asking.
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Thu Jan  4 03:26:35 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 00:26:35 -0800
Subject: FL: Question
In-Reply-To: <c10.d567e88.32cde234@aol.com>
References: <c10.d567e88.32cde234@aol.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0701040026y4aad0655r2d642847d408fca2@mail.gmail.com>

The only restriction is it has to be G rated. Privet part covered if your
suit is anatomically correct. Most cons say no bondage stuff. Unless its
something that is normal for the fursuits species. Dog fursuits can have
leashes. Equines and can have bridals and saddles or a harness. Stuff like
that.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 1/3/07, TAS0930 at aol.com <TAS0930 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>  In order to go to a furry con, does your fursuit have to be original or
> can you just take an existing cartoon charicter and make a suit out of that,
> just asking.
>
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From colifox at hotmail.com  Thu Jan  4 03:30:24 2007
From: colifox at hotmail.com (Colifox _)
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 08:30:24 +0000
Subject: FL: Question
In-Reply-To: <ccf.765cbb1.32cde411@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY128-F135D3438C80A78CB6D6726B7B80@phx.gbl>

Hi Tilt,

Not to try and stray off topic, but I just had to say that the cheetah suit 
you made is fantastic.  I think the character was more hugely popular in the 
states but i recall a time he was aired over here as well before becoming a 
kinda background icon for walkers UK.

The head is hilariously huge, which adds great character appeal.  I just 
have to ask, how heavy is something like that?  I presume its all foam?  I 
ask because I have a sylvester the cat suit and his head is huge, made 
mostly of paper and masche moulded.   He is a tad on the heavy side :)

Regards,

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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Thu Jan  4 03:38:54 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 00:38:54 -0800
Subject: FL: french fursuit video on youtube...warning not work safe but
	somewhat funny..
In-Reply-To: <3901BDC2-6DF8-4BAC-BD2B-F9693DE5D56F@jovino.com>
References: <BAY102-W416F807E6329E5E2F959AD9BA0@phx.gbl>
	<3901BDC2-6DF8-4BAC-BD2B-F9693DE5D56F@jovino.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0701040038w6bd9c080v6227f77e018ba9d3@mail.gmail.com>

I did not find it funny in the least. I found it quite offencive. It was
some moron sexually assaulting others. He/she needs to be locked up.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 1/3/07, jovino <fursuit at jovino.com> wrote:
>
> I'm curious if all the participants in the film were consenting
> because it looked like a few of the people being accosted were rather
> pissed at being non-consensually humpped by a giant rabbit. Other
> than that... funny as hell!
>
>
>
> ( )_( )
> (o , o)
> (").(")
>
> jovino
>
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2007, at 3:49 PM, steven morizio wrote:
>
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZONFBqPosXw&NR
> >
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From marcwolf at anubis-systems.com  Thu Jan  4 03:50:30 2007
From: marcwolf at anubis-systems.com (David Boccabella)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 18:50:30 +1000
Subject: FL: french fursuit video on youtube...warning not work safe
	butsomewhat funny..
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0701040038w6bd9c080v6227f77e018ba9d3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIGEINECAA.marcwolf@anubis-systems.com>

Or Neutered!!!!

I watched part of it and them just clicked stop!!.. I'm not a prude by any
stretch of the imagination but that kind of behaviour in public..  Mo.

<White Muzzle Gripe>

Marcwolf

 -----Original Message-----
From: Donkey [mailto:donkeyears at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 4 January 2007 18:39
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Subject: Re: FL: french fursuit video on youtube...warning not work safe
butsomewhat funny..


  I did not find it funny in the least. I found it quite offencive. It was
some moron sexually assaulting others. He/she needs to be locked up.

  His Most Royal Highass, Donkey


  On 1/3/07, jovino <fursuit at jovino.com> wrote:
    I'm curious if all the participants in the film were consenting
    because it looked like a few of the people being accosted were rather
    pissed at being non-consensually humpped by a giant rabbit. Other
    than that... funny as hell!



    ( )_( )
    (o , o)
    (").(")

    jovino



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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Thu Jan  4 07:58:04 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 07:58:04 -0500
Subject: FL: french fursuit video on youtube...warning not work safe
	butsomewhat funny..
In-Reply-To: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIGEINECAA.marcwolf@anubis-systems.com>
References: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIGEINECAA.marcwolf@anubis-systems.com>
Message-ID: <D9CF7B46-FED3-4B95-9E8B-AC7CD11256A7@flyingfox.biz>

Surely there were some out-takes in their video making process where  
he did or almost got a red @$$ beatdown.

=^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



On Jan 4, 2007, at 3:50 AM, David Boccabella wrote:

Or Neutered!!!!

I watched part of it and them just clicked stop!!.. I'm not a prude  
by any stretch of the imagination but that kind of behaviour in  
public..  Mo.

<White Muzzle Gripe>

Marcwolf

  -----Original Message-----
From: Donkey [mailto:donkeyears at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 4 January 2007 18:39
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Subject: Re: FL: french fursuit video on youtube...warning not work  
safe butsomewhat funny..

I did not find it funny in the least. I found it quite offencive. It  
was some moron sexually assaulting others. He/she needs to be locked up.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 1/3/07, jovino <fursuit at jovino.com> wrote:
I'm curious if all the participants in the film were consenting
because it looked like a few of the people being accosted were rather
pissed at being non-consensually humpped by a giant rabbit. Other
than that... funny as hell!



( )_( )
(o , o)
(").(")

jovino



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From RTRabbitNY at aol.com  Thu Jan  4 12:40:56 2007
From: RTRabbitNY at aol.com (RTRabbitNY at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:40:56 EST
Subject: FL: Question
Message-ID: <c66.97aa3bf.32ce9628@aol.com>

 
Don't forget the Care Bears.
 
Rapid T. Rabbit
 
 
In a message dated 1/4/2007 12:27:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
bdbfox at outgun.com writes:

I've  seen Don Carnage (Tailspin), Bugs Bunny, Wile E. Coyote, Uncle Scar and 
Timon  (Lion King), Balto, The Geiko Gecko, Hong Kong Phooey, most of the 
Banana  Splits, half the characters from the musical "Cats", Minerva Mink  
(Animaniacs), Gamera, Gozdilla, Minya and Nicodemus (Secret of Nimh)  replicated at 
various conventions.


 
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From schneidsky at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  5 11:03:39 2007
From: schneidsky at yahoo.com (Adam Schneider)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 08:03:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Question
In-Reply-To: <c66.97aa3bf.32ce9628@aol.com>
Message-ID: <190780.24771.qm@web54006.mail.yahoo.com>

Anybody ever seen a Road Rover or a Swat Kat?  Those were my favorite shows when I was a little kid and I bet they would make some pretty fine costumes...

RTRabbitNY at aol.com wrote:        Don't forget the Care Bears.
   
  Rapid T. Rabbit
   
   
  In a message dated 1/4/2007 12:27:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, bdbfox at outgun.com writes:
  I've seen Don Carnage (Tailspin), Bugs Bunny, Wile E. Coyote, Uncle Scar and Timon (Lion King), Balto, The Geiko Gecko, Hong Kong Phooey, most of the Banana Splits, half the characters from the musical "Cats", Minerva Mink (Animaniacs), Gamera, Gozdilla, Minya and Nicodemus (Secret of Nimh) replicated at various conventions.
  
   
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From tygrcwby at hotmail.com  Fri Jan  5 11:09:00 2007
From: tygrcwby at hotmail.com (Christopher "Tyger" Roth)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:09:00 -0600
Subject: FL: Question
References: <190780.24771.qm@web54006.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY131-DAV4127CBD8CDE103CA50602D8BF0@phx.gbl>

Road Rovers were awesome! Love to see more suits of them!
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 10:03 AM
  Subject: Re: FL: Question


  Anybody ever seen a Road Rover or a Swat Kat?  Those were my favorite shows when I was a little kid and I bet they would make some pretty fine costumes...

  RTRabbitNY at aol.com wrote: 
    Don't forget the Care Bears.

    Rapid T. Rabbit


    In a message dated 1/4/2007 12:27:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, bdbfox at outgun.com writes:
      I've seen Don Carnage (Tailspin), Bugs Bunny, Wile E. Coyote, Uncle Scar and Timon (Lion King), Balto, The Geiko Gecko, Hong Kong Phooey, most of the Banana Splits, half the characters from the musical "Cats", Minerva Mink (Animaniacs), Gamera, Gozdilla, Minya and Nicodemus (Secret of Nimh) replicated at various conventions.

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From karen.upfront at shaw.ca  Fri Jan  5 11:07:46 2007
From: karen.upfront at shaw.ca (Karen Dollmont)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 09:07:46 -0700
Subject: FL: Question
References: <190780.24771.qm@web54006.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <007e01c730e3$a9a5e700$6701a8c0@karen>

I would be careful about copy right stuff. Check it out before you make it. We make custom designed mascots and if anyone asks for a copyright character we stay clear of it. Not willing to take a chance with law suits. 
Karen Up Front Mascots. 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 9:03 AM
  Subject: Re: FL: Question


  Anybody ever seen a Road Rover or a Swat Kat?  Those were my favorite shows when I was a little kid and I bet they would make some pretty fine costumes...

  RTRabbitNY at aol.com wrote: 
    Don't forget the Care Bears.

    Rapid T. Rabbit


    In a message dated 1/4/2007 12:27:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, bdbfox at outgun.com writes:
      I've seen Don Carnage (Tailspin), Bugs Bunny, Wile E. Coyote, Uncle Scar and Timon (Lion King), Balto, The Geiko Gecko, Hong Kong Phooey, most of the Banana Splits, half the characters from the musical "Cats", Minerva Mink (Animaniacs), Gamera, Gozdilla, Minya and Nicodemus (Secret of Nimh) replicated at various conventions.

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From animecat at hotmail.com  Fri Jan  5 12:40:30 2007
From: animecat at hotmail.com (Anime Cat)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 12:40:30 -0500
Subject: FL: Question
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Fri Jan  5 12:54:02 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 09:54:02 -0800
Subject: FL: Question
In-Reply-To: <BAY101-F37CF2359761B5D5D81D760D7BF0@phx.gbl>
References: <190780.24771.qm@web54006.mail.yahoo.com>
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I think that is a good idea to the studios let people make costumes of there
characters for fan events. Its free publicity. Most comic book/strips
encourage it. In San Diego at Comic Con. The comic company's give prises at
the costume contest to the fans that make costumes that represent there
characters the best. I think I remember one prise being $500 in products.
Some have prises of $100 to $200 in cash.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 1/5/07, Anime Cat <animecat at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah, copyrights are a pain in the tail. You can get away with on a very
> limited basis. Being a cosplayer and having a strong basis in anime, I've
> had to deal with the copyright issue quite a lot. I have found that the
> following is true:
>
> -You can make a costume of a copyrighted character (SWAT Kats, Care Bears,
> etc.) for "fan" purposes, and as long as you're not using it to turn a
> profit or trying to portray the actual character or represent the studio in
> public, then you're okay. Keep the costumes to private functions like
> conventions or fan meets.
>
> -Japanese studios seem to be the least concerned about copyrights. Anime
> characters are widely accepted in fan works such as costumes and artwork, so
> you're pretty safe there as well.
>
> -When in doubt, contact the studio and ask permission.
>
> **
>
> *Nicole "AnimeCat" Spradling
> Studio Neko-Neko <http://animecat.critter.net/> founder and artist
> Central Arkansas Fur Association<http://community.livejournal.com/cenarkfurs/profile>event coordinator
> Creator and founder of the Candy Skunk Corps<http://community.livejournal.com/candyskunks/profile>
> *
> **
>
> ------------------------------
> From: *Adam Schneider <schneidsky at yahoo.com>*
> Reply-To: *fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org*
> To: *fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org*
> Subject: *Re: FL: Question*
> Date: *Fri, 5 Jan 2007 08:03:39 -0800 (PST)*
>
> Anybody ever seen a Road Rover or a Swat Kat?  Those were my favorite
> shows when I was a little kid and I bet they would make some pretty fine
> costumes...
>
> *RTRabbitNY at aol.com* wrote:
>
>  Don't forget the Care Bears.
>
> Rapid T. Rabbit
>
>
> In a message dated 1/4/2007 12:27:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> bdbfox at outgun.com writes:
>
> I've seen Don Carnage (Tailspin), Bugs Bunny, Wile E. Coyote, Uncle Scar
> and Timon (Lion King), Balto, The Geiko Gecko, Hong Kong Phooey, most of the
> Banana Splits, half the characters from the musical "Cats", Minerva Mink
> (Animaniacs), Gamera, Gozdilla, Minya and Nicodemus (Secret of Nimh)
> replicated at various conventions.
>
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From karen.upfront at shaw.ca  Fri Jan  5 12:59:42 2007
From: karen.upfront at shaw.ca (Karen Dollmont)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 10:59:42 -0700
Subject: FL: Question
References: <BAY101-F37CF2359761B5D5D81D760D7BF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <014401c730f3$eaf09510$6701a8c0@karen>

great advice. as a company, we have to be way more careful than private.
Karen up front mascots. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Anime Cat 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 10:40 AM
  Subject: Re: FL: Question


  Yeah, copyrights are a pain in the tail. You can get away with on a very limited basis. Being a cosplayer and having a strong basis in anime, I've had to deal with the copyright issue quite a lot. I have found that the following is true:

  -You can make a costume of a copyrighted character (SWAT Kats, Care Bears, etc.) for "fan" purposes, and as long as you're not using it to turn a profit or trying to portray the actual character or represent the studio in public, then you're okay. Keep the costumes to private functions like conventions or fan meets. 

  -Japanese studios seem to be the least concerned about copyrights. Anime characters are widely accepted in fan works such as costumes and artwork, so you're pretty safe there as well.

  -When in doubt, contact the studio and ask permission.



  Nicole "AnimeCat" Spradling 
  Studio Neko-Neko founder and artist 
  Central Arkansas Fur Association event coordinator
  Creator and founder of the Candy Skunk Corps



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    From: Adam Schneider <schneidsky at yahoo.com>
    Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
    To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
    Subject: Re: FL: Question
    Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 08:03:39 -0800 (PST)

    Anybody ever seen a Road Rover or a Swat Kat?  Those were my favorite shows when I was a little kid and I bet they would make some pretty fine costumes...

    RTRabbitNY at aol.com wrote: 
      Don't forget the Care Bears.

      Rapid T. Rabbit


      In a message dated 1/4/2007 12:27:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, bdbfox at outgun.com writes:
        I've seen Don Carnage (Tailspin), Bugs Bunny, Wile E. Coyote, Uncle Scar and Timon (Lion King), Balto, The Geiko Gecko, Hong Kong Phooey, most of the Banana Splits, half the characters from the musical "Cats", Minerva Mink (Animaniacs), Gamera, Gozdilla, Minya and Nicodemus (Secret of Nimh) replicated at various conventions.

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From realweasel at hotmail.com  Fri Jan  5 13:45:33 2007
From: realweasel at hotmail.com (Weasel H)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 12:45:33 -0600
Subject: FL: Mascot/Fursuit Event: Mascot Basketball
In-Reply-To: <532.cbf5363.32cde864@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY127-F214CACBF2CD4172B3C2163DCBF0@phx.gbl>

Hello all you Performers out there

This is a call for all those in the Upstate New York region!

A local ABA basketball team, the Rochester Razorsharks,  are hosting a 
Mascot Basketball Game on Jan 13th.  They are in need of several characters 
to perform at this event.  It would involve meet'n'tgreets, fan entertaining 
and crowd roaming, and of course the mascot basketball game at half time.

The game is an afternoon game with a start time at around 2:05PM, so you 
will be getting out before evening.

If you are interested in this event, email me privately and provide the 
following information, and I'll get you in touch with the Sales/Event 
Manager, Kim.

Please let me know what suit (i.e., specie and name of character) you will 
be bringing, your real name and email, and from there I'll get you more 
info, including the invitation  form and team contact info.

PLEASE NOTE
This is a volunteer event, don't expect a pay check.

Hope to hear from you all soon

Nick Hadad
Mascot, Rochester Razorsharks
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From jtbeckett at hotmail.com  Fri Jan  5 15:55:06 2007
From: jtbeckett at hotmail.com (J.T. Beckett)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:55:06 -0900
Subject: FL: Question
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0701050954s16e8db65xf9bbd4d9db569fa5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F7F2104A6EA805AF75EC2EBBBF0@phx.gbl>

Not always... though it's probably not as big of a deal to comic book 
characters... but if for example someone made a really amazing likeness to 
"Barney" and took it to a small convention where they were videotaped doing 
something similar to the rabbit in that video that was recently passed 
around the board... you can see how the people at HIT entertainment would be 
pretty mad... especially if it ended up on youtube, or getting little news 
stories here and there.  Parents searching youtube for footage of a barney 
concert for their 3 year old running across that might be upset, and if the 
company doesn't sue the pants off people for doing that, then the company is 
liable to get sued by parents.

So, yeah... it depends on who the character is, and how they're being 
portrayed, and if the company has strict rules about their copyrighted 
material.

J.T.


>From: Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: Re: FL: Question
>Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 09:54:02 -0800
>
>I think that is a good idea to the studios let people make costumes of 
>there
>characters for fan events. Its free publicity. Most comic book/strips
>encourage it. In San Diego at Comic Con. The comic company's give prises at
>the costume contest to the fans that make costumes that represent there
>characters the best. I think I remember one prise being $500 in products.
>Some have prises of $100 to $200 in cash.
>
>His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
>
>On 1/5/07, Anime Cat <animecat at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Yeah, copyrights are a pain in the tail. You can get away with on a very
>>limited basis. Being a cosplayer and having a strong basis in anime, I've
>>had to deal with the copyright issue quite a lot. I have found that the
>>following is true:
>>
>>-You can make a costume of a copyrighted character (SWAT Kats, Care Bears,
>>etc.) for "fan" purposes, and as long as you're not using it to turn a
>>profit or trying to portray the actual character or represent the studio 
>>in
>>public, then you're okay. Keep the costumes to private functions like
>>conventions or fan meets.
>>
>>-Japanese studios seem to be the least concerned about copyrights. Anime
>>characters are widely accepted in fan works such as costumes and artwork, 
>>so
>>you're pretty safe there as well.
>>
>>-When in doubt, contact the studio and ask permission.
>>
>>**
>>
>>*Nicole "AnimeCat" Spradling
>>Studio Neko-Neko <http://animecat.critter.net/> founder and artist
>>Central Arkansas Fur 
>>Association<http://community.livejournal.com/cenarkfurs/profile>event 
>>coordinator
>>Creator and founder of the Candy Skunk 
>>Corps<http://community.livejournal.com/candyskunks/profile>
>>*
>>**
>>
>>------------------------------
>>From: *Adam Schneider <schneidsky at yahoo.com>*
>>Reply-To: *fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org*
>>To: *fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org*
>>Subject: *Re: FL: Question*
>>Date: *Fri, 5 Jan 2007 08:03:39 -0800 (PST)*
>>
>>Anybody ever seen a Road Rover or a Swat Kat?  Those were my favorite
>>shows when I was a little kid and I bet they would make some pretty fine
>>costumes...
>>
>>*RTRabbitNY at aol.com* wrote:
>>
>>  Don't forget the Care Bears.
>>
>>Rapid T. Rabbit
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 1/4/2007 12:27:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>bdbfox at outgun.com writes:
>>
>>I've seen Don Carnage (Tailspin), Bugs Bunny, Wile E. Coyote, Uncle Scar
>>and Timon (Lion King), Balto, The Geiko Gecko, Hong Kong Phooey, most of 
>>the
>>Banana Splits, half the characters from the musical "Cats", Minerva Mink
>>(Animaniacs), Gamera, Gozdilla, Minya and Nicodemus (Secret of Nimh)
>>replicated at various conventions.
>>
>>
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From dragonsfire867 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  5 20:45:37 2007
From: dragonsfire867 at yahoo.com (Dragonsfire)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 17:45:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Scales...
In-Reply-To: <014401c730f3$eaf09510$6701a8c0@karen>
Message-ID: <610542.46149.qm@web35515.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm thinking of making a dragon fursuit head, but I'm not sure of what the best materials are to use. I know some people use foamies, but the material seems too...smooth and squishy. I also have pleather, but not enough to cover everything. Are there any things I can use that have a 'hard' feel to them that would work well?
   
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From helvetica at dslextreme.com  Fri Jan  5 20:54:46 2007
From: helvetica at dslextreme.com (Phillip Burgess)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 17:54:46 -0800
Subject: FL: Scales...
In-Reply-To: <610542.46149.qm@web35515.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <610542.46149.qm@web35515.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0779C660-16D2-4A8A-BBEF-BAF76477499E@dslextreme.com>

Laura Whent created a wonderful gryphon head out of soda cans(!)  I  
would've thought the edges would be sharp and nasty, but apparently not:

	http://www.dragonfyredawn.com/costuming/gryphon/gryphon.html

Might make an excellent (and affordable) medium for a dragon as  
well.  One could even use different brands and flavors of soda to add  
coloration.

-- Phil


From blueflyer18 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  5 21:56:33 2007
From: blueflyer18 at yahoo.com (May Marshall)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:56:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: MFF goers
Message-ID: <755413.46783.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

How many fursuiters plan on goint to MFF 07? This's gonna be my first convention and i'll be going in a partial if all goes well! Also I had a couple other questions, like...
   
    
   Is there a "fursuit floor" like at Anthrocon?  
   Who and what suits are going?  
   What kind of stuff can you do at Midwest FurFest?  
   And is it loads of fun?
  Thanks!
  Blue Flyer*
   
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From aerak.wolf at gmail.com  Fri Jan  5 22:06:59 2007
From: aerak.wolf at gmail.com (Aerak Wolf)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 21:06:59 -0600
Subject: FL: MFF goers
In-Reply-To: <755413.46783.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <755413.46783.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2373a4f90701051906k3337ca22rd898baa499a9eed6@mail.gmail.com>

Hey there ^^

1. No fursuit floor.  There's really no need for one at MFF.
2. I never miss it.  My suit can be seen here:
www.furaffinity.net/user/aerak.  Last MFF I believe there were over 200
fursuiters.  That's a lot of individuals to name.
3. Fursuit, attend panels, attend contests, hang out, buy artwork and
clothes and such, commission people... there's really too much stuff for me
to list it all.
4. Definitely!  Besides Mephit Furmeet MFF is my favorite furry convention
^^

-Aerak


On 1/5/07, May Marshall <blueflyer18 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> How many fursuiters plan on goint to MFF 07? This's gonna be my first
> convention and i'll be going in a partial if all goes well! Also I had a
> couple other questions, like...
>
>
>    1. Is there a "fursuit floor" like at Anthrocon?
>    2. Who and what suits are going?
>    3. What kind of stuff can you do at Midwest FurFest?
>    4. And is it loads of fun?
>
> Thanks!
> Blue Flyer*
>
> *Aussi speak for female red kangaroo.
>
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From liacono at gmail.com  Fri Jan  5 22:07:13 2007
From: liacono at gmail.com (Leonard Iacono)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:07:13 -0500
Subject: FL: MFF goers
In-Reply-To: <755413.46783.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <755413.46783.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f2eaf4620701051907s10f523fp2c686f7544cea522@mail.gmail.com>

1) there is a very nice fursuit lounge to accomadate the fursuiters. In
terms of a floor for fursuiters, the answer is no.
2) Ill be there. Name is Lace and my fursuit is my fursona, which is a black
wolf.
3) Loads of things to do. Good dances, awesome people, panels, games, etc..
4) MFF is a must go to con. I had a blast last year, and even more fun this
year.

-Lace
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From blue_heel at fsun.net  Fri Jan  5 22:45:17 2007
From: blue_heel at fsun.net (Doctor)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 21:45:17 -0600
Subject: FL: MFF goers
In-Reply-To: <2373a4f90701051906k3337ca22rd898baa499a9eed6@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <755413.46783.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<2373a4f90701051906k3337ca22rd898baa499a9eed6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20070105214332.02484060@mail.fsun.net>

You forgot to mention the Furry Variety Show...  It's loads of fun.  And as 
the other two (and probably more) will say, it's really good and fun.

Blue
At 09:06 PM 1/5/2007, you wrote:
>Hey there ^^
>
>1. No fursuit floor.  There's really no need for one at MFF.
>2. I never miss it.  My suit can be seen here: 
><http://www.furaffinity.net/user/aerak>www.furaffinity.net/user/aerak. 
>Last MFF I believe there were over 200 fursuiters.  That's a lot of 
>individuals to name.
>3. Fursuit, attend panels, attend contests, hang out, buy artwork and 
>clothes and such, commission people... there's really too much stuff for 
>me to list it all.
>4. Definitely!  Besides Mephit Furmeet MFF is my favorite furry convention ^^
>
>-Aerak
>
>
>On 1/5/07, May Marshall 
><<mailto:blueflyer18 at yahoo.com>blueflyer18 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>How many fursuiters plan on goint to MFF 07? This's gonna be my first 
>convention and i'll be going in a partial if all goes well! Also I had a 
>couple other questions, like...
>
>    * Is there a "fursuit floor" like at Anthrocon?
>    * Who and what suits are going?
>    * What kind of stuff can you do at Midwest FurFest?
>    * And is it loads of fun?
>Thanks!
>Blue Flyer*
>
>*Aussi speak for female red kangaroo.

--
Blue Heeler SunFire
Original member of FSUN (Furry Supporters of Universal Networks)
Blue_Heel on Undernet; FurryMuck; SPR; Tapestries; Yukon Trails
Furry Writer; art collector
www.fsun.net/blue_heel
Furry Code available upon request. 


From wildfox34 at gmail.com  Sat Jan  6 01:35:57 2007
From: wildfox34 at gmail.com (Mike Johnson)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 01:35:57 -0500
Subject: FL: MFF goers
In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20070105214332.02484060@mail.fsun.net>
References: <755413.46783.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<2373a4f90701051906k3337ca22rd898baa499a9eed6@mail.gmail.com>
	<6.0.0.22.2.20070105214332.02484060@mail.fsun.net>
Message-ID: <68be40570701052235r4239cbb3s8ed22f6b9cbc7c5b@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for speaking up on that, Blue.  And the other two have pretty
much summed up the other questions as well.  MFF is a very good con,
and I should know being a staff member of MFF myself working the
Puppet Track and helping with the MFF FVS as well (assisstant
director).

As for suits I'll have there next year, a bit early to tell...but I'll
definitly be picking through these suits:
http://wildfox.chameleon.net/main.php?g2_itemId=28 and should have a
new coyote suit by then to take with me as well!

Wildfox

On 1/5/07, Doctor <blue_heel at fsun.net> wrote:
> You forgot to mention the Furry Variety Show...  It's loads of fun.  And as
> the other two (and probably more) will say, it's really good and fun.
>
> Blue
> At 09:06 PM 1/5/2007, you wrote:
> >Hey there ^^
> >
> >1. No fursuit floor.  There's really no need for one at MFF.
> >2. I never miss it.  My suit can be seen here:
> ><http://www.furaffinity.net/user/aerak>www.furaffinity.net/user/aerak.
> >Last MFF I believe there were over 200 fursuiters.  That's a lot of
> >individuals to name.
> >3. Fursuit, attend panels, attend contests, hang out, buy artwork and
> >clothes and such, commission people... there's really too much stuff for
> >me to list it all.
> >4. Definitely!  Besides Mephit Furmeet MFF is my favorite furry convention ^^
> >
> >-Aerak
> >
> >
> >On 1/5/07, May Marshall
> ><<mailto:blueflyer18 at yahoo.com>blueflyer18 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >How many fursuiters plan on goint to MFF 07? This's gonna be my first
> >convention and i'll be going in a partial if all goes well! Also I had a
> >couple other questions, like...
> >
> >    * Is there a "fursuit floor" like at Anthrocon?
> >    * Who and what suits are going?
> >    * What kind of stuff can you do at Midwest FurFest?
> >    * And is it loads of fun?
> >Thanks!
> >Blue Flyer*
> >
> >*Aussi speak for female red kangaroo.
>
> --
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> Original member of FSUN (Furry Supporters of Universal Networks)
> Blue_Heel on Undernet; FurryMuck; SPR; Tapestries; Yukon Trails
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From RTRabbitNY at aol.com  Sat Jan  6 02:36:53 2007
From: RTRabbitNY at aol.com (RTRabbitNY at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 02:36:53 EST
Subject: FL: Mascot/Fursuit Event: Mascot Basketball
Message-ID: <bc1.9749a83.32d0ab95@aol.com>

 
For those of you in the Downstate New York region....
 
For the past several years, "Rapid T. Rabbit and Friends" had been doing a  
similar event at the Stony Brook University Seawolves basketball game on Long  
Island.  At the present time, the team has not decided yet for certain if  
they will have their "mascot day" event this season but I am waiting for a  
decision on that.  On my suggestion, they are considering adding it onto a  
promotion that they already have scheduled for Sunday February 11, which will be  the 
birthday celebration for Wolfie, the university's mascot.  I will post  again 
here if the event is confirmed.
 
Rapid T. Rabbit
 
 
In a message dated 1/5/2007 1:46:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
realweasel at hotmail.com writes:

Hello  all you Performers out there

This is a call for all those in the  Upstate New York region!

A local ABA basketball team, the Rochester  Razorsharks,  are hosting a 
Mascot Basketball Game on Jan 13th.   They are in need of several characters 
to perform at this event.  It  would involve meet'n'tgreets, fan entertaining 
and crowd roaming, and of  course the mascot basketball game at half time.

The game is an  afternoon game with a start time at around 2:05PM, so you 
will be getting  out before evening.

If you are interested in this event, email me  privately and provide the 
following information, and I'll get you in touch  with the Sales/Event 
Manager, Kim.

Please let me know what suit  (i.e., specie and name of character) you will 
be bringing, your real name  and email, and from there I'll get you more 
info, including the  invitation  form and team contact info.

PLEASE NOTE
This is a  volunteer event, don't expect a pay check.

Hope to hear from you all  soon

Nick Hadad
Mascot, Rochester  Razorsharks
realweasel at hotmail.com


 
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From eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  6 11:15:18 2007
From: eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com (Jason Taipale)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 08:15:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Mascot Moive
Message-ID: <579098.16025.qm@web52501.mail.yahoo.com>

Does anyone know if the Mascot Moive is ever going to have a DVD release?  I thought I had heard something about a DVD release, but it appears that the website hasn't been updated in almost a year and a half.

Thanks

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From dragonsfire867 at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  6 08:37:52 2007
From: dragonsfire867 at yahoo.com (Dragonsfire)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 05:37:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Scales...
In-Reply-To: <0779C660-16D2-4A8A-BBEF-BAF76477499E@dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <596294.6187.qm@web35513.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks for the help!=D
  Dragonsfire867

Phillip Burgess <helvetica at dslextreme.com> wrote:
  Laura Whent created a wonderful gryphon head out of soda cans(!) I 
would've thought the edges would be sharp and nasty, but apparently not:

http://www.dragonfyredawn.com/costuming/gryphon/gryphon.html

Might make an excellent (and affordable) medium for a dragon as 
well. One could even use different brands and flavors of soda to add 
coloration.

-- Phil

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From solion at comcast.net  Sat Jan  6 11:40:54 2007
From: solion at comcast.net (Lionel Vogt)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 11:40:54 -0500
Subject: FL: And I am stuck
References: <579098.16025.qm@web52501.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <015b01c731b1$6f86dbf0$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>

I am going to FC this year, I  have allready paid for my flight but the room I was staying in has backed out.
and now I am sleeping in the hallways. I have money to pay rent for floorspace at the hotel, I bathe, I wear deodorant and am very 
low impact.  And I am hoping somone out there can help me. 

Ona another note, here is a build report on the big lion video build. Enjoy 

http://www.lionofthesun.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album19&page=1

Lionel 
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From RTRabbitNY at aol.com  Sat Jan  6 12:29:36 2007
From: RTRabbitNY at aol.com (RTRabbitNY at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 12:29:36 EST
Subject: FL: Mascot Moive
Message-ID: <c06.e1718e1.32d13680@aol.com>

 
The real question is....will it ever get released at all?
 
I've been in touch with the producer and he says there are too many  
liscensing issues (and the costs thereof) regarding many characters who appeared  in 
it, which so far have been thwarting the film getting even seen below Canada  
(except for those of you attending FC?).
 
Heck, I was the first fursuiter interviewed for the movie, gave them lots  of 
my footage (including my tape from the Mascot Hall of Fame ceremonies)  and 
had the producer and director as guests on my TV show and I still haven't  even 
seen it yet....  :(
 
Rapid T. Rabbit
 
 
In a message dated 1/6/2007 11:16:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com writes:

Does  anyone know if the Mascot Moive is ever going to have a DVD release?  I 
 thought I had heard something about a DVD release, but it appears that the  
website hasn't been updated in almost a year and a  half.




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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sat Jan  6 13:47:29 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 10:47:29 -0800
Subject: FL: And I am stuck
In-Reply-To: <015b01c731b1$6f86dbf0$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>
References: <579098.16025.qm@web52501.mail.yahoo.com>
	<015b01c731b1$6f86dbf0$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0701061047h29f6f5c9hbb09655f46a053dc@mail.gmail.com>

That's why I get my own room and share with others. No one can back out on
me with out me with out a room. The worst thing that can happen is I don't
have any room mates. And is that a bad thing? I always get my reservation in
as soon as the con says that the rooms are available. No chance of not
getting a room. I would make my room reservation for next years con aka FC08
right now if I could.

Now as for my self. I would not have done such a crappy thing to somebody.
If I found that I could not go. I would do a step by step changing of the
reservation so the people rooming with me wont be with out a room.

You call the hotel and add someone elses name to the reservation. Then you
call and change the credit card info to that person. Then you call and then
if you can have your name removed from the reservation. After three phone
calls. Your out and you did not scrue the people you promised room space to.
I don't see the people that you promised room space to refusing to agreeing
to helping on the proses. Because if they don't there out of the room and
into the hallways.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 1/6/07, Lionel Vogt <solion at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> I am going to FC this year, I  have allready  paid for my flight but the
room I was staying in has backed  out.
> and now I am sleeping in the hallways. I have money  to pay rent for
floorspace at the hotel, I bathe, I wear deodorant and am very
> low impact.  And I am hoping somone out there can help me.
>
> Ona another note, here is a build report on the big  lion video build.
Enjoy
>
>
http://www.lionofthesun.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album19&page=1
>
> Lionel
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sat Jan  6 15:44:43 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 12:44:43 -0800
Subject: FL: Mascot Moive
In-Reply-To: <c06.e1718e1.32d13680@aol.com>
References: <c06.e1718e1.32d13680@aol.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0701061244u6bf17dfo4dee64b9a4e4f755@mail.gmail.com>

I'm surprised that Canadian furs have not sent some DVDs across the boarder.


His Most Royal highass, Donkey

On 1/6/07, RTRabbitNY at aol.com <RTRabbitNY at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> The real question is....will it ever get released at all?
>
> I've been in touch with the producer and he says there are too many
> liscensing issues (and the costs thereof) regarding many characters who
> appeared in it, which so far have been thwarting the film getting even
seen
> below Canada (except for those of you attending FC?).
>
> Heck, I was the first fursuiter interviewed for the movie, gave them lots
of
> my footage (including my tape from the Mascot Hall of Fame ceremonies) and
> had the producer and director as guests on my TV show and I still haven't
> even seen it yet....  :(
>
> Rapid T. Rabbit
>
>
> In a message dated 1/6/2007 11:16:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com writes:
> Does anyone know if the Mascot Moive is ever going to have a DVD
release?  I
> thought I had heard something about a DVD release, but it appears that the
> website hasn't been updated in almost a year and a half.
>
>
>
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From sardognsca at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  6 19:10:58 2007
From: sardognsca at yahoo.com (Sardog)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 16:10:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Mascot Moive
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0701061244u6bf17dfo4dee64b9a4e4f755@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070107001059.17697.qmail@web51614.mail.yahoo.com>

It was actually a pretty good movie. :) 

We were at their, I believe, first screening at a film
fest.  We suited before it to greet people, and, then,
they actually held up the show while we ran to jump
out of our suits and back into the theatre.

Sardogns.


--- Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm surprised that Canadian furs have not sent some
> DVDs across the boarder.
> 
> 
> His Most Royal highass, Donkey
> 
> On 1/6/07, RTRabbitNY at aol.com <RTRabbitNY at aol.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > The real question is....will it ever get released
> at all?
> >
> > I've been in touch with the producer and he says
> there are too many
> > liscensing issues (and the costs thereof)
> regarding many characters who
> > appeared in it, which so far have been thwarting
> the film getting even
> seen
> > below Canada (except for those of you attending
> FC?).
> >
> > Heck, I was the first fursuiter interviewed for
> the movie, gave them lots
> of
> > my footage (including my tape from the Mascot Hall
> of Fame ceremonies) and
> > had the producer and director as guests on my TV
> show and I still haven't
> > even seen it yet....  :(
> >
> > Rapid T. Rabbit
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/6/2007 11:16:44 A.M. Eastern
> Standard Time,
> > eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com writes:
> > Does anyone know if the Mascot Moive is ever going
> to have a DVD
> release?  I
> > thought I had heard something about a DVD release,
> but it appears that the
> > website hasn't been updated in almost a year and a
> half.
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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From sckrabei2 at hotmail.com  Sat Jan  6 21:54:14 2007
From: sckrabei2 at hotmail.com (luke sckrabei)
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 02:54:14 +0000
Subject: FL: Pic of Licenced spyro suit???
In-Reply-To: <001001c72d5d$e6b0bfa0$6401a8c0@albeardesktop>
Message-ID: <BAY102-F23B840EAA3A76F9F861F3FBBD0@phx.gbl>


If anyone can point me in the right direction to find one that would be 
great, I've searched with no luck,

Cheers,

Luke!

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From oz_kangaroo at optusnet.com.au  Sat Jan  6 22:33:25 2007
From: oz_kangaroo at optusnet.com.au (oz_kangaroo at optusnet.com.au)
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 14:33:25 +1100
Subject: FL: Pic of Licenced spyro suit???
Message-ID: <200701070333.l073XPj5005268@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au>

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From Rollermark6 at aol.com  Sat Jan  6 22:37:53 2007
From: Rollermark6 at aol.com (Rollermark6 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 22:37:53 EST
Subject: FL: Pic of Licenced spyro suit???
Message-ID: <c51.b9a7331.32d1c511@aol.com>

Shafton made one...
 
_http://www.shaftoninc.com/samples36.jpg_ 
(http://www.shaftoninc.com/samples36.jpg) 
 
TILT
_The  FURRY World of TILT_ 
(http://hometown.aol.com/rollermark6/myhomepage/index.html)  
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From santafox at comcast.net  Sun Jan  7 19:14:33 2007
From: santafox at comcast.net (Santa Fox)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 00:14:33 +0000
Subject: FL: MFF goers
Message-ID: <010820070014.22403.45A18CE9000837800000578322007507449801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>

As a first timer to MFF this past November, I'll give my ringing endorsement - it's a wonderfully amazing experience, and definitely a great con for fursuiters.  I've never been as overwhelmingly awed as I was when I looked through the room where we lined up for the fursuit parade and all I could see was wall-to-wall fursuits: 213 of them to be exact.  The parade experience alone was well worth the 1,500 mile round-trip for me.

I'll give fair warning, though, that with over a thousand attendees and over two hundred fursuiters, MFF might be a bit overwhelming for someone who's never been to a furry con before.  While I definitely recommend going to MFF if you can, you might want to try finding a way to get to one of the smaller cons this year to get a feel for what cons are like in an environment that isn't so big or jam packed with furs.  If you're not sure what cons are out there, just post telling what part of the country you're in, and I and others here can certainly give you some suggestions.

Of course, if you really can't get to any other cons, don't let me scare you away from MFF.  You'll still have a good time there even without any previous con experience - it'll just be that much more fun if you learn about cons somewhere smaller and then tackle a large con - at least, that's my humble opinion.

Cheers,
Santa Fox
--
Santa Fox's Den - http://santafox.home.comcast.net/

> > >On 1/5/07, May Marshall
> > ><<mailto:blueflyer18 at yahoo.com>blueflyer18 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >How many fursuiters plan on goint to MFF 07? This's gonna be my first
> > >convention and i'll be going in a partial if all goes well! Also I had a
> > >couple other questions, like...
> > >
> > >    * Is there a "fursuit floor" like at Anthrocon?
> > >    * Who and what suits are going?
> > >    * What kind of stuff can you do at Midwest FurFest?
> > >    * And is it loads of fun?
> > >Thanks!
> > >Blue Flyer*
> > >
> > >*Aussi speak for female red kangaroo.

From sckrabei2 at hotmail.com  Sun Jan  7 21:46:19 2007
From: sckrabei2 at hotmail.com (luke sckrabei)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 02:46:19 +0000
Subject: FL: You are a champ:)!!!
In-Reply-To: <200701070333.l073XPj5005268@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <BAY102-F34BA1B18CF7F58E9A2AA06FBBC0@phx.gbl>


That's Eden,

Got pics for you tomorrow of my stuff, spent both sat and sunday glueing 
undershells together, 6 in total.

thanks a million:)

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From solion at comcast.net  Mon Jan  8 02:13:29 2007
From: solion at comcast.net (Lionel Vogt)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 02:13:29 -0500
Subject: FL: Thanks to everyone I have a room again!
References: <BAY102-F34BA1B18CF7F58E9A2AA06FBBC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <024301c732f4$7f8f8670$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>

Thank you all for being so kind and cool, The outpouring of mercy onto this 
ol lion is greatly appreciated
I have a room now for the event, Again , thank you all for trying to help me 
out

Lionel 



From berin at bluemarble.net  Mon Jan  8 06:48:06 2007
From: berin at bluemarble.net (Berin Greenbear)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 06:48:06 -0500
Subject: FL: MFF goers
In-Reply-To: <010820070014.22403.45A18CE9000837800000578322007507449801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>
References: <010820070014.22403.45A18CE9000837800000578322007507449801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <45A22F76.1000001@bluemarble.net>

As yet another staff member at MFF, thanks Santa Fox.  We all work hard
to make MFF one heck of a show and were glad you showed up.  When I
wasn't wrangling gophers and had some time to spend with my friends,
your suits were highly entertaining for all of us, especially a
first-time con goer that I managed to drag kicking and screaming from
Buffalo to attend.  I'm pleased to report that he's been bitten by the
fursuiting bug as well and will soon be joining our ranks.

Berin Greenbear

Santa Fox wrote:
> As a first timer to MFF this past November, I'll give my ringing endorsement - it's a wonderfully amazing experience, and definitely a great con for fursuiters.  I've never been as overwhelmingly awed as I was when I looked through the room where we lined up for the fursuit parade and all I could see was wall-to-wall fursuits: 213 of them to be exact.  The parade experience alone was well worth the 1,500 mile round-trip for me.
> 
> I'll give fair warning, though, that with over a thousand attendees and over two hundred fursuiters, MFF might be a bit overwhelming for someone who's never been to a furry con before.  While I definitely recommend going to MFF if you can, you might want to try finding a way to get to one of the smaller cons this year to get a feel for what cons are like in an environment that isn't so big or jam packed with furs.  If you're not sure what cons are out there, just post telling what part of the country you're in, and I and others here can certainly give you some suggestions.
> 
> Of course, if you really can't get to any other cons, don't let me scare you away from MFF.  You'll still have a good time there even without any previous con experience - it'll just be that much more fun if you learn about cons somewhere smaller and then tackle a large con - at least, that's my humble opinion.
> 
> Cheers,
> Santa Fox
> --
> Santa Fox's Den - http://santafox.home.comcast.net/
> 



From grey_llama at yahoo.com  Mon Jan  8 12:39:22 2007
From: grey_llama at yahoo.com (Sean Rook)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 09:39:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: MFF goers
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1168275602.23352.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <267974.89334.qm@web30410.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Yup, MFF is definitely one of my favorite cons to
attend.  I missed 2006 but hopefully 2007 will bring
better luck.

One thing that's fantastic about MFF is its location,
it's near a mall and a lot of good restaurants - so it
doesn't suffer from lack of variety, requiring a car,
or having to order out.  And for first time con-goers,
those that might actually want to step out of the
hotel for a little bit, good options ^.^

Yeah, first time con-goers may be a little overwhelmed
(though last time I attended, I thought it was still
in the comfortable size range), but I mean Anthrocon
was my first con so even first timers can survive a
lot of people and chaos of a furcon ^.^  Better
survival tips are for attendees to have some sort of
contact with people before attending, knowing there's
people to meet and do stuff with takes some of the
pressure of the unknown off your shoulders (and thru
those people you'll meet tons more people, it's always
the first contact that's the hardest).  And of course
being part of activities such as fursuiting, or
volunteering for the con can help get you interacting
with a goal rather than worrying about winging a first
impression.

Amount of people in my experience isn't really the
only judge for whether a con is a good first con.  If
you get caught up where a lot of groups don't mingle,
whether they're large or small it'll limit your
experience.  I think activities, panels (heh, I went
to those much more often when I was new to the
convention scene), volunteering - anything to get you
out of your room, meeting people, and having fun -
that's what you got to look for.  And on that end, I
think MFF does very well.

-Lynx

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From schneidsky at yahoo.com  Mon Jan  8 13:10:50 2007
From: schneidsky at yahoo.com (Adam Schneider)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:10:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: MFF goers
In-Reply-To: <45A22F76.1000001@bluemarble.net>
Message-ID: <312385.7747.qm@web54005.mail.yahoo.com>

I'm situated in Little Rock, Arkansas with relatives in St. Louis, Missouri.  Are there any cons nearby that I can sorta sniff around to get acquainted with the whole scene?

Berin Greenbear <berin at bluemarble.net> wrote:  As yet another staff member at MFF, thanks Santa Fox. We all work hard
to make MFF one heck of a show and were glad you showed up. When I
wasn't wrangling gophers and had some time to spend with my friends,
your suits were highly entertaining for all of us, especially a
first-time con goer that I managed to drag kicking and screaming from
Buffalo to attend. I'm pleased to report that he's been bitten by the
fursuiting bug as well and will soon be joining our ranks.

Berin Greenbear

Santa Fox wrote:
> As a first timer to MFF this past November, I'll give my ringing endorsement - it's a wonderfully amazing experience, and definitely a great con for fursuiters. I've never been as overwhelmingly awed as I was when I looked through the room where we lined up for the fursuit parade and all I could see was wall-to-wall fursuits: 213 of them to be exact. The parade experience alone was well worth the 1,500 mile round-trip for me.
> 
> I'll give fair warning, though, that with over a thousand attendees and over two hundred fursuiters, MFF might be a bit overwhelming for someone who's never been to a furry con before. While I definitely recommend going to MFF if you can, you might want to try finding a way to get to one of the smaller cons this year to get a feel for what cons are like in an environment that isn't so big or jam packed with furs. If you're not sure what cons are out there, just post telling what part of the country you're in, and I and others here can certainly give you some suggestions.
> 
> Of course, if you really can't get to any other cons, don't let me scare you away from MFF. You'll still have a good time there even without any previous con experience - it'll just be that much more fun if you learn about cons somewhere smaller and then tackle a large con - at least, that's my humble opinion.
> 
> Cheers,
> Santa Fox
> --
> Santa Fox's Den - http://santafox.home.comcast.net/
> 


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From berin at bluemarble.net  Mon Jan  8 14:04:24 2007
From: berin at bluemarble.net (Berin Greenbear)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:04:24 -0500
Subject: FL: MFF goers
In-Reply-To: <312385.7747.qm@web54005.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <312385.7747.qm@web54005.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1168283064.45a295b89d39b@mail.bluemarble.net>

I suggest you check out Mephit Furmeet (www.mephitfurmeet.com) over Labor Day
weekend.  I'm staff there, so I'm a little biased.  It's a nice, "small" Con of
maybe 700 furs.

Rocket City Furmeet (www.rcfm.net) over Memorial Day Weekend.  I haven't been to
this one, but I have a few friends that love this Con.

You also might consider Furry Weekend Atlanta (www.furryweekend.com) the weekend
after Valentine's Day.  I know the staff, and they put on a great show.

Also, if you're comfortable in the St Louis area, Tyger Cowboy
(tygercowboy at gmail.com) puts together a furry contingent for the Mardi Gras
parade in St Louis.  There's usually a small itinerary planned.  It's not a Con,
but it is a good way to meet fursuiters from the region where the midwest, west,
and south meet.  E-mail him for information.

In short, there are plenty of opportunities to sniff around and explore the scene.

Berin Greenbear

Quoting Adam Schneider <schneidsky at yahoo.com>:

> I'm situated in Little Rock, Arkansas with relatives in St. Louis, Missouri. 
> Are there any cons nearby that I can sorta sniff around to get acquainted
> with the whole scene?


From chakawolf at hotmail.com  Mon Jan  8 14:06:20 2007
From: chakawolf at hotmail.com (Chaka Wolf)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:06:20 -0600
Subject: FL: MFF goers
In-Reply-To: <312385.7747.qm@web54005.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY134-F15A92CAC610775A31ECDA6BDBC0@phx.gbl>


Mephit FurMeet in Memphis isn't too far for you.  Nice mid-sized con.

http://mephitfurmeet.org/

>From: Adam Schneider <schneidsky at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: Re: FL: MFF goers
>Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:10:50 -0800 (PST)
>
>I'm situated in Little Rock, Arkansas with relatives in St. Louis, 
>Missouri.  Are there any cons nearby that I can sorta sniff around to get 
>acquainted with the whole scene?
>
>Berin Greenbear <berin at bluemarble.net> wrote:  As yet another staff member 
>at MFF, thanks Santa Fox. We all work hard
>to make MFF one heck of a show and were glad you showed up. When I
>wasn't wrangling gophers and had some time to spend with my friends,
>your suits were highly entertaining for all of us, especially a
>first-time con goer that I managed to drag kicking and screaming from
>Buffalo to attend. I'm pleased to report that he's been bitten by the
>fursuiting bug as well and will soon be joining our ranks.
>
>Berin Greenbear
>
>Santa Fox wrote:
> > As a first timer to MFF this past November, I'll give my ringing 
>endorsement - it's a wonderfully amazing experience, and definitely a great 
>con for fursuiters. I've never been as overwhelmingly awed as I was when I 
>looked through the room where we lined up for the fursuit parade and all I 
>could see was wall-to-wall fursuits: 213 of them to be exact. The parade 
>experience alone was well worth the 1,500 mile round-trip for me.
> >
> > I'll give fair warning, though, that with over a thousand attendees and 
>over two hundred fursuiters, MFF might be a bit overwhelming for someone 
>who's never been to a furry con before. While I definitely recommend going 
>to MFF if you can, you might want to try finding a way to get to one of the 
>smaller cons this year to get a feel for what cons are like in an 
>environment that isn't so big or jam packed with furs. If you're not sure 
>what cons are out there, just post telling what part of the country you're 
>in, and I and others here can certainly give you some suggestions.
> >
> > Of course, if you really can't get to any other cons, don't let me scare 
>you away from MFF. You'll still have a good time there even without any 
>previous con experience - it'll just be that much more fun if you learn 
>about cons somewhere smaller and then tackle a large con - at least, that's 
>my humble opinion.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Santa Fox
> > --
> > Santa Fox's Den - http://santafox.home.comcast.net/
> >
>
>
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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sat Jan  6 11:17:01 2007
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 16:17:01 -0000
Subject: No subject
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From FenrysStar at aol.com  Mon Jan  8 14:42:38 2007
From: FenrysStar at aol.com (FenrysStar at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 14:42:38 EST
Subject: FL: MFF goers
Message-ID: <cc3.84b01cb.32d3f8ae@aol.com>

Right now I can afford to go to 2 conventions every year. The first one being 
Anthrocon and second is Memphis. If the Atlantic City convention I keep 
hearing about goes through I'll make it a third. But I live in Philadelphia, PA so 
for me there is no local con. 
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From snglspdcat at gmail.com  Mon Jan  8 16:24:58 2007
From: snglspdcat at gmail.com (single speed cheeta)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:24:58 -0500
Subject: FL: MFF goers
In-Reply-To: <267974.89334.qm@web30410.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.5.1168275602.23352.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<267974.89334.qm@web30410.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c23fb4800701081324k7f03b185kf73128c6f7cf5488@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/8/07, Sean Rook <grey_llama at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Yup, MFF is definitely one of my favorite cons to
> attend.  I missed 2006 but hopefully 2007 will bring
> better luck.
>
> One thing that's fantastic about MFF is its location,
> it's near a mall and a lot of good restaurants - so it
> doesn't suffer from lack of variety, requiring a car,
> or having to order out.  And for first time con-goers,
> those that might actually want to step out of the
> hotel for a little bit, good options ^.^
>
> Yeah, first time con-goers may be a little overwhelmed
> (though last time I attended, I thought it was still
> in the comfortable size range), but I mean Anthrocon
> was my first con so even first timers can survive a
> lot of people and chaos of a furcon ^.^  Better
> survival tips are for attendees to have some sort of
> contact with people before attending, knowing there's
> people to meet and do stuff with takes some of the
> pressure of the unknown off your shoulders (and thru
> those people you'll meet tons more people, it's always
> the first contact that's the hardest).  And of course
> being part of activities such as fursuiting, or
> volunteering for the con can help get you interacting
> with a goal rather than worrying about winging a first
> impression.
>
> Amount of people in my experience isn't really the
> only judge for whether a con is a good first con.  If
> you get caught up where a lot of groups don't mingle,
> whether they're large or small it'll limit your
> experience.  I think activities, panels (heh, I went
> to those much more often when I was new to the
> convention scene), volunteering - anything to get you
> out of your room, meeting people, and having fun -
> that's what you got to look for.  And on that end, I
> think MFF does very well.
>
> -Lynx
>
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From smrgol at optonline.net  Mon Jan  8 16:34:49 2007
From: smrgol at optonline.net (smrgol at optonline.net)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 21:34:49 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: FL: MFF goers
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> I'm situated in Little Rock, Arkansas with relatives in St. 
> Louis, Missouri. Are there any cons nearby that I can sorta 
> sniff around to get acquainted with the whole scene?


How 'bout Memphis Tenn. on Labor day weekend?

That's The Mephit Furmeet.

http://www.mephitfurmeet.org/

One of my favourites. Very fursuit Friendly

-};>~


From smrgol at optonline.net  Mon Jan  8 16:37:25 2007
From: smrgol at optonline.net (smrgol at optonline.net)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 21:37:25 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: FL: MFF goers
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> But I live in Philadelphia, PA so 
> for me there is no local con. 

Well, there's always the Cape May Furmeet. 
Hopefully that one will be back "on track" this year.

Other than that the closest con is FurFright up in CT. in October.


From iluvferrets53187 at aol.com  Mon Jan  8 17:52:03 2007
From: iluvferrets53187 at aol.com (iluvferrets53187 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 17:52:03 -0500
Subject: FL: Seamless necks, footpaws, and stuff
Message-ID: <8C9018EBFF28433-62C-6C99@WEBMAIL-DC13.sysops.aol.com>

 'Allo all, like to start off by sayin' thanks for all the help you give not just me, but all of us. :3
 
 Onto the questions! 
 Firstly. Necks. I've read the FAQ countless times (its a great way to get me in the mood to work on another suit) but the section on necks is still blank. I usually face a bit of a problem when I make them. Looking at other suits sometimes its hard to tell if their necks are attached to their heads, suits, or if they're separate all together. Also, what about closing them up to look "seamless"? So far I've used velcro, but unless I"m standing before I mirror or have help I often can't close it so it looks right. Any suggestions?
 
 Secondly. Footpaw bottoms! There's always the debate of pawpads vs durability, that is, to make them decorative, or made to withstand walking-- and possibly stepping in something when outside (big problem at Oklacon with all the dogs about). So what sorts of things are good for bottoms? Obviously one could just make paws over an old pair of shoes and thus have the shoebottom to walk on, but what about the decorative pawpad route? Perhaps make pads out of rubber, or leather? Cheapest and easy to find materials are always best ;3 Suggestions?
 
 Miscellaneous stuff, Christmas eve I wore my new fursona suit to GameStop and had lots of fun (except my scarf came undone without my knowing and folks could see my neck). Whatchall think? 
 http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/nerat/IMAG0002.jpg
 http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/nerat/IMAG0005.jpg
 http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/nerat/IMAG0006.jpg
 http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/nerat/IMAG0004.jpg
 http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/nerat/IMAG0001-1.jpg (this poor fella was so weirded out XD he was all >_>;; wtf hugz?)
 
 Thanks as always,
 ~Link Wolf
 
  
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From santafox at comcast.net  Mon Jan  8 20:04:09 2007
From: santafox at comcast.net (Santa Fox)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 01:04:09 +0000
Subject: FL: Furry Weekend Atlanta: January Newsletter
Message-ID: <010920070104.13160.45A2EA08000DC7050000336822007358349801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>

SOUTHERN TAILS
The official newsletter of Furry Weekend Atlanta
February 16-18, 2007
Sheraton Gateway Hotel
Atlanta, GA, USA
http://www.furryweekend.com


IN THIS ISSUE

1. First Hotel Block Full!
2. Registration Ending Soon
3. Dealers Den Space still available!
4. Meet Our 2007 Charity: Conservators' Center, Inc.
5. Charity Auction
6. Preliminary Schedule Posted
6. Programming Spotlight: Solving Fursuit Construction Problems
7. Programming Spotlight: LIVE MUSIC!
8. Volunteers Needed


LESS THAN TWO MONTHS UNTIL HAPPINESS ENSUES!


# FIRST HOTEL BLOCK FULL!

That's right! The first full block of rooms at the Sheraton Gateway
Hotel is now sold out! But don't despair - we've opened another block
of rooms at the Sheraton and reservations are now being taken. Furry
Weekend Altanta has negotiated a special Furry Weekend Atlanta rate
for the convention of $89.00 per night for single, double, triple and
quad occupancy. However, to take advantage of this rate, you must
contact Sheraton Reservations at 1-800-325-3535 and request the "Furry
Weekend Atlanta" room block and rate OR book online through our
website (http://www.furryweekend.com/hotel).


# REGISTRATION ENDING SOON

The deadline for pre-registering for Furry Weekend Atlanta 2007 is
almost at hand! Pre-Registration closes on February 3rd, 2007 at
11:59PM. Pre-Registered Attending-level memberships are available at
$35, Sponsoring level at $75, and God-Level Sponsoring memberships at
$120. After Pre-Registration closes, the only available way to
register will be at the door. Attending level at the door will be $40,
Sponsoring at $80, and God-Level at $140.

Remember, if you want to pay by credit, YOU MUST PRE-REGISTER ONLINE.
Save time. Save money. Save trees. Sharpen saws at home and earn extra
cash. Pre-Register online. (http://www.furryweekend.com/registration)


# DEALERS DEN SPACE STILL AVAILABLE

Got something you want to sell? Well, we have space for you to sell
it! Registration for the dealer's room for this year's FWA is open.
Prices start at $70 for one table and one membership. Included in this
price is free power and internet (on a first come, first served basis)
and free lunches Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Full details, including
how to register, can be found at our website
(http://www.furryweekend.com/dealers). If you have any questions, feel
free to email us at dealersden at furryweekend.com


# MEET OUR 2007 CHARITY: CONSERVATORS' CENTER, INC

Conservators' Center, Inc, or CCI, is a non-profit organization that
works to preserve threatened species.  One of their main ways of doing
this is through a special captive breeding program to help maintain
endangered and threatened species.  While their breeding program is
their main focus, they do accept some animals in urgent and critical
need of rescue, primarily taking in animals that most other
sanctuaries would not be able to handle.  CCI also does community and
school presentations to help educate children and adults in ways that
they can help to preserve species for generations to come.


Please be sure to stop by and meet CCI's representatives at FWA this
year.  If you'd like to help support CCI, you can make direct
contributions to them while at FWA, as well as by donating items to or
buying items at our Charity Auction scheduled for the Saturday
afternnon of FWA.  Further details on the Charity Auction and when and
where you can meet CCI at FWA will be posted in the near future.  For
more information, visit our website at
(http://www.furryweekend.com/charity)


# CHARITY AUCTION

As we have in previous years, Furry Weekend Atlanta will be holding a
charity auction on Sunday to support our 2007 charity (see above). If
you have anything to donate to the auction, bring it with you to the
convention and let our staffers know! We, and our furry friends in
North Carolina, appreciate it!


# PRELIMINARY SCHEDULE POSTED

The preliminary FWA 2007 schedule is now available for online viewing!
Please remember, this is a preliminary schedule, and is still subject
to change between now and the beginning of the con.
(http://www.furryweekend.com/schedule)


# PROGRAMMING SPOTLIGHT: SOLVING FURSUIT CONSTRUCTION PROBLEMS

Do you have a fursuit or fursuit piece that you've been working on,
but have gotten stuck trying to figure out some aspect of the design?
Have a finished piece that doesn't fit or move quite right, but can't
figure out how to rework it? Bring your problem parts and pieces to
this interactive workshop where both our panel of expert builders and
the audience will provide insight, ideas, and suggestions to help you
finish or perfect your fursuit. Participants should be aware that this
is an interactive discusssion forum, and that the panelists are
available to provide input, not to actually make physical repairs or
changes to your fursuit.


# PROGRAMMING SPOTLIGHT: LIVE MUSIC

We love music and want it to be part of our weekend! On Friday on the
Main Stage, join Critical Fail, an all-furry rock band out of
Huntsville, Alabama, that will be continuing their annual tradition of
FWA shows this year. Then, on Saturday, rock out with Sub-Level 03,
the furry band out of Oklahoma that has become a staple of furry
conventions everywhere!


# VOLUNTEERS WANTED

Interested in lending a paw at Furry Weekend Atlanta? Let our
volunteering director know! Contact him at
volunteers at furryweekend.com.


# THE FWA MASQUERADE

The FWA First Annual Masquerade is a judged costuming event, with both 
Technical Judging (i.e. Fursuit Design and Construction) and Performance 
Judging.  The big Masquerade Show will be at noon on Sunday of the con,
and is open to everyone at the con to come and watch all the fun.  During
the show, there will be a non-judged section where anyone (non-suiters
included) can do an act, much like with a traditional Furry Variety Show.

If you are interested in participating in the Masquerade or want more 
information on the event, please be sure to see the following FWA 
LiveJournal Community Post:

  http://community.livejournal.com/furryweekend/65508.html

And also be sure to download the Masquerade Guidlines and Registration 
Forms packet:   

  http://www.furryweekend.com/files/fwa-masquerade-guidelines.pdf


Furry Weekend Atlanta
The Deep South's Anthropomorphics Exposition
February 16-18, 2007
Sheraton Gateway Hotel
Atlanta, GA, USA
http://www.furryweekend.com

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From marcwolf at anubis-systems.com  Mon Jan  8 20:34:00 2007
From: marcwolf at anubis-systems.com (David Boccabella)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 11:34:00 +1000
Subject: FL: Seamless necks, footpaws, and stuff
In-Reply-To: <8C9018EBFF28433-62C-6C99@WEBMAIL-DC13.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIEEMAECAA.marcwolf@anubis-systems.com>

Hi Link Wolf

Something I have tried and it works well is to make a cut-out of the base of
the paw using heavy duty carpet squares.

You can get them in a variety of colors and they are very durable. If they
start to wear then just make another cut-out. You can also glue pads onto
the for extra visibility. I use thick rubber for these and yes - they do
wear byt you just replace them.

Also the carpet is deosigned to be washable so that any nasties you tread in
can be washed out.

Take Care

Marcwolf
  -----Original Message-----
  From: iluvferrets53187 at aol.com [mailto:iluvferrets53187 at aol.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, 9 January 2007 08:52
  To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org
  Subject: FL: Seamless necks, footpaws, and stuff


  'Allo all, like to start off by sayin' thanks for all the help you give
not just me, but all of us. :3

  Onto the questions!
  Firstly. Necks. I've read the FAQ countless times (its a great way to get
me in the mood to work on another suit) but the section on necks is still
blank. I usually face a bit of a problem when I make them. Looking at other
suits sometimes its hard to tell if their necks are attached to their heads,
suits, or if they're separate all together. Also, what about closing them up
to look "seamless"? So far I've used velcro, but unless I"m standing before
I mirror or have help I often can't close it so it looks right. Any
suggestions?

  Secondly. Footpaw bottoms! There's always the debate of pawpads vs
durability, that is, to make them decorative, or made to withstand walking--
and possibly stepping in something when outside (big problem at Oklacon with
all the dogs about). So what sorts of things are good for bottoms? Obviously
one could just make paws over an old pair of shoes and thus have the
shoebottom to walk on, but what about the decorative pawpad route? Perhaps
make pads out of rubber, or leather? Cheapest and easy to find materials are
always best ;3  Suggestions?

  Miscellaneous stuff, Christmas eve I wore my new fursona suit to GameStop
and had lots of fun (except my scarf came undone without my knowing and
folks could see my neck).  Whatchall think?
  http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/nerat/IMAG0002.jpg
  http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/nerat/IMAG0005.jpg
  http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/nerat/IMAG0006.jpg
  http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/nerat/IMAG0004.jpg
  http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/nerat/IMAG0001-1.jpg (this poor
fella was so weirded out XD he was all >_>;; wtf hugz?)

  Thanks as always,
  ~Link Wolf



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From grey_llama at yahoo.com  Mon Jan  8 20:42:43 2007
From: grey_llama at yahoo.com (Sean Rook)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:42:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: MFF goers
In-Reply-To: <mailman.12.1168306414.22076.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <20070109014243.29464.qmail@web30409.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Yup, MFM is also a great con - and especially good for
newcomers to the con scene (it was the second con I
ever attended, right after AC... so quite a shock at
the differences).  

Big problem as of late has of course been the con
timing for me - great for some but I've found Labor
Day weekend to not be as good for going away last few
years.

-Lynx

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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Mon Jan  8 21:14:47 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:14:47 -0800
Subject: FL: Seamless necks, footpaws, and stuff
In-Reply-To: <8C9018EBFF28433-62C-6C99@WEBMAIL-DC13.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8C9018EBFF28433-62C-6C99@WEBMAIL-DC13.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0701081814r79f6e430n7b311c9040f6d193@mail.gmail.com>

My body suits go all the way to my jaw line and the heads go down to the
bottom base of my neck to make it look as seamless as possible with out
making them connect. I did not have anything to do with this idea but I
liked it so much that I incorporated it into all of my fursuits after that.
The person that I got the idea from has two realistic fuirsuits one is a
jackalope and the other is a coyote the names that I have access to there
called  "Diego Coyote and Jacko Lopez" I know them from FC05.

I don't think that having ones fursuit head seamless is as important to
toons as it is for realist. But that's for each persons tastes.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 1/8/07, iluvferrets53187 at aol.com <iluvferrets53187 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> 'Allo all, like to start off by sayin' thanks for all the help you give
not just me, but all of us. :3
>
>  Onto the questions!
>  Firstly. Necks. I've read the FAQ countless times (its a great way to get
me in the mood to work on another suit) but the section on necks is still
blank. I usually face a bit of a problem when I make them. Looking at other
suits sometimes its hard to tell if their necks are attached to their heads,
suits, or if they're separate all together. Also, what about closing them up
to look "seamless"? So far I've used velcro, but unless I"m standing before
I mirror or have help I often can't close it so it looks right. Any
suggestions?
>
>  Secondly. Footpaw bottoms! There's always the debate of pawpads vs
durability, that is, to make them decorative, or made to withstand walking--
and possibly stepping in something when outside (big problem at Oklacon with
all the dogs about). So what sorts of things are good for bottoms? Obviously
one could just make paws over an old pair of shoes and thus have the
shoebottom to walk on, but what about the decorative pawpad route? Perhaps
make pads out of rubber, or leather? Cheapest and easy to find materials are
always best ;3  Suggestions?
>
>  Miscellaneous stuff, Christmas eve I wore my new fursona suit to GameStop
and had lots of fun (except my scarf came undone without my knowing and
folks could see my neck).  Whatchall think?
>  http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/nerat/IMAG0002.jpg
>  http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/nerat/IMAG0005.jpg
>  http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/nerat/IMAG0006.jpg
>  http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/nerat/IMAG0004.jpg
>  http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/nerat/IMAG0001-1.jpg (this poor
fella was so weirded out XD he was all >_>;; wtf hugz?)
>
>  Thanks as always,
>  ~Link Wolf
>
>
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Mon Jan  8 21:19:34 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:19:34 -0800
Subject: FL: MFF goers
In-Reply-To: <dfc2d2b21b6d.45a2b995@optonline.net>
References: <cc3.84b01cb.32d3f8ae@aol.com>
	<dfc2d2b21b6d.45a2b995@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0701081819w77468d3eg1126b1145264451@mail.gmail.com>

It does seem that the east coast does have quite a few cons or get to
gethers. As for the left coast. We have FC which I think is the best.
Califur is more a  reagal con. There is also the FurBBQ for the soCalFurs
but thats a one day event.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 1/8/07, smrgol at optonline.net <smrgol at optonline.net> wrote:
>
>
> > But I live in Philadelphia, PA so
> > for me there is no local con.
>
> Well, there's always the Cape May Furmeet.
> Hopefully that one will be back "on track" this year.
>
> Other than that the closest con is FurFright up in CT. in October.
>
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Mon Jan  8 22:38:39 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 19:38:39 -0800
Subject: FL: Seamless necks, footpaws, and stuff
In-Reply-To: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIEEMAECAA.marcwolf@anubis-systems.com>
References: <8C9018EBFF28433-62C-6C99@WEBMAIL-DC13.sysops.aol.com>
	<OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIEEMAECAA.marcwolf@anubis-systems.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0701081938q2b524ecsbfc66a189904d99f@mail.gmail.com>

As for my self I like my horse boots. It takes weeks for a horses to wear
them out and I weigh like 1/5th of what a horse does and I don't wear them
7/24. So I think that I will never be wearing them out. =b Thou since they
have 5 inch heels there not that comfortable to wear.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 1/8/07, David Boccabella <marcwolf at anubis-systems.com> wrote:
>
>  Hi Link Wolf
>
> Something I have tried and it works well is to make a cut-out of the base
> of the paw using heavy duty carpet squares.
>
> You can get them in a variety of colors and they are very durable. If they
> start to wear then just make another cut-out. You can also glue pads onto
> the for extra visibility. I use thick rubber for these and yes - they do
> wear byt you just replace them.
>
> Also the carpet is deosigned to be washable so that any nasties you tread
> in can be washed out.
>
> Take Care
>
> Marcwolf
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* iluvferrets53187 at aol.com [mailto:iluvferrets53187 at aol.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 9 January 2007 08:52
> *To:* fursuit-list at fursuit.org
> *Subject:* FL: Seamless necks, footpaws, and stuff
>
> 'Allo all, like to start off by sayin' thanks for all the help you give
> not just me, but all of us. :3
>
> Onto the questions!
> Firstly. Necks. I've read the FAQ countless times (its a great way to get
> me in the mood to work on another suit) but the section on necks is still
> blank. I usually face a bit of a problem when I make them. Looking at other
> suits sometimes its hard to tell if their necks are attached to their heads,
> suits, or if they're separate all together. Also, what about closing them up
> to look "seamless"? So far I've used velcro, but unless I"m standing before
> I mirror or have help I often can't close it so it looks right. Any
> suggestions?
>
> Secondly. Footpaw bottoms! There's always the debate of pawpads vs
> durability, that is, to make them decorative, or made to withstand walking--
> and possibly stepping in something when outside (big problem at Oklacon with
> all the dogs about). So what sorts of things are good for bottoms? Obviously
> one could just make paws over an old pair of shoes and thus have the
> shoebottom to walk on, but what about the decorative pawpad route? Perhaps
> make pads out of rubber, or leather? Cheapest and easy to find materials are
> always best ;3  Suggestions?
>
> Miscellaneous stuff, Christmas eve I wore my new fursona suit to GameStop
> and had lots of fun (except my scarf came undone without my knowing and
> folks could see my neck).  Whatchall think?
> http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/nerat/IMAG0002.jpg
> http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/nerat/IMAG0005.jpg
> http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/nerat/IMAG0006.jpg
> http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/nerat/IMAG0004.jpg
> http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/nerat/IMAG0001-1.jpg (this poor
> fella was so weirded out XD he was all >_>;; wtf hugz?)
>
> Thanks as always,
> ~Link Wolf
>
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From Rollermark6 at aol.com  Tue Jan  9 00:33:53 2007
From: Rollermark6 at aol.com (Rollermark6 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 00:33:53 EST
Subject: FL: Seamless necks, footpaws, and stuff
Message-ID: <d1c.24ce7cb.32d48341@aol.com>

For a seamless neck, I make my fursuits so they have  a  turtleneck collar 
that gets tucked up into the head.
There are lots of methods, when in doubt, add more fur!  
For foot paw pads I use foam rubber flooring, The interlocking flooring  
squares for under weight benches, workshops etc. The are avail at lowes and they  
come in different colors. You could also cut up some flip flops. (They are 
meant  to be walked on! )
You will have some 3-D paw pads so therefore when you walk the fur on the  
bottoms of your feet will not really touch the floor too much.
Hope this helps,
 
TILT
 
_The  FURRY World of TILT_ 
(http://hometown.aol.com/rollermark6/myhomepage/index.html)  
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From FenrysStar at aol.com  Tue Jan  9 01:37:28 2007
From: FenrysStar at aol.com (FenrysStar at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 01:37:28 EST
Subject: FL: MFF goers
Message-ID: <bfb.c8d3caf.32d49228@aol.com>

In a message dated 1/8/2007 4:40:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
smrgol at optonline.net writes:
Well, there's always the Cape May Furmeet. 
Hopefully that one will be back "on track" this year.

Other than that the closest con is FurFright up in CT. in October.
I'll have to look for a website for that one. Atlantic City, Cape May, as 
long as I get there on Greyhound or NJ Transit I'll try to make arrangements.
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Tue Jan  9 03:03:48 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 00:03:48 -0800
Subject: FL: MFF goers
In-Reply-To: <bfb.c8d3caf.32d49228@aol.com>
References: <bfb.c8d3caf.32d49228@aol.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0701090003j19581f00r2aae832717c49616@mail.gmail.com>

Flying is not that much more expensive than the bus and you take a fraction
of the time. The only reason I can see for taking a bus is if your
travailing between two small villages that don't have airports and there not
to far away from each other. Of course the smallest place that I have lived
in has a population of all most 60,000 people and its just outside a city
that has a population of over a million. So I might not quite see things
right.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 1/8/07, FenrysStar at aol.com <FenrysStar at aol.com> wrote:
>
>  In a message dated 1/8/2007 4:40:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> smrgol at optonline.net writes:
>
> Well, there's always the Cape May Furmeet.
> Hopefully that one will be back "on track" this year.
>
> Other than that the closest con is FurFright up in CT. in October.
>
> I'll have to look for a website for that one. Atlantic City, Cape May, as
> long as I get there on Greyhound or NJ Transit I'll try to make
> arrangements.
>
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From davidmcc at optonline.net  Tue Jan  9 06:48:35 2007
From: davidmcc at optonline.net (David Mc)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:48:35 -0500
Subject: FL: MFF goers
Message-ID: <000201c733e4$19088fa0$650fa8c0@EEYORE>


> I'll have to look for a website for that one. Atlantic City, Cape May, as 
> long
> as I get there on Greyhound or NJ Transit I'll try to make arrangements.

You may want to look into flying as Donkey suggests.  The con hotel is at 
the airport.




From RTRabbitNY at aol.com  Tue Jan  9 13:28:52 2007
From: RTRabbitNY at aol.com (RTRabbitNY at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 13:28:52 EST
Subject: FL: Stony Brook University Basketball Mascot Day is a GO!
Message-ID: <cd7.6356eba.32d538e4@aol.com>

The Seawolves just gave me a call, and Mascot Day is on for their  basketball 
game.  
 
It will be on Sunday February 11, and the event will be Wolfie's birthday  so 
we are all going to help him celebrate.  Game time is 2pm, call time for  
mascots is Noon.
 
For those of you outside NYC metro, Stony Brook U. is in Suffolk County,  
Long Island NY.
 
Need a head count as soon as possible!
 
Rapid T. Rabbit
 
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From RTRabbitNY at aol.com  Tue Jan  9 13:43:34 2007
From: RTRabbitNY at aol.com (RTRabbitNY at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 13:43:34 EST
Subject: FL: Stony Brook University Basketball Mascot Day is a GO!
Message-ID: <c49.9cbdf66.32d53c56@aol.com>

 
Well they just made the decision to have us at all within the past hour so  
activities have not been planned yet.  But I'm sure there will some sort of  
birthday party for Wolfie as part of it...maybe party games?
 
Rapid T. Rabbit
 
 
In a message dated 1/9/2007 1:40:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
twisterjtb at yahoo.com writes:

Is there gonna be any fun thing at halftime? Like fursuit basketball or  
something?


 
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From chairo at critter.net  Tue Jan  9 14:16:26 2007
From: chairo at critter.net (Lee Strom)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 11:16:26 -0800
Subject: FL: Mascot Moive Follow-Up / Further Confusion Viewing
In-Reply-To: <20070107001059.17697.qmail@web51614.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20070107001059.17697.qmail@web51614.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <45A3EA0A.5060702@critter.net>

Greetings fellow costumers,

Further Confusion and myself have worked professionally with Doug 
Barber, the producer of the Mascot Movie.

In 2004 he brought his cameras to our convention and did a very good 
piece about the amateur / fan side of mascotting in relation to his 
overall film which debuted later that year in the Canidian Independent 
Film Circuit.

In 2005 he was hoping to have a New York agency (managed by a former New 
Line Cinema exec)pick up the film for U.S. distribution.  Due to several 
legal setbacks that avenue had been scrapped.

Doug is hoping that he will be able to produce his DVD for the North 
American market.  But there are still many hurdles.  Professional 
Mascots and the companies that govern them can be a finiky bunch.

So for now, there is no planned release of DVDs.  But you do have two 
options:

1) Go to FC this year and see it on the big screen!  Doug has offered us 
a unique opportunity to show it to the fandom, very possibly the last 
time in this sort of setting.  It will be shown at 4PM on Main Stage 
just after the famed original Critterlympics.  Be sure to plan your day.

http://www.furtherconfusion.org/fc2007/schedulebyday.php?day=1_20_07

2) You can email Doug or James Phillips (Co-Director / Producer) and see 
what they have to say aboug getting a DVD ...

http://www.mascotmovie.com/

james at mascotmovie.com
doug at mascotmovie.com

Heres hoping to see you at Further Confusion ...

Stay Fluffy!

Lee "Chairo" Strom

- Costumer
- Media / Public Relations Director for Further Confusion / AAE Inc.
- ... and all around strange and funny qoon type dude

*PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME WITH ANY QUESTIONS!*



Sardog wrote:
> It was actually a pretty good movie. :) 
> 
> We were at their, I believe, first screening at a film
> fest.  We suited before it to greet people, and, then,
> they actually held up the show while we ran to jump
> out of our suits and back into the theatre.
> 
> Sardogns.
> 
> 
> --- Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>I'm surprised that Canadian furs have not sent some
>>DVDs across the boarder.
>>
>>
>>His Most Royal highass, Donkey
>>
>>On 1/6/07, RTRabbitNY at aol.com <RTRabbitNY at aol.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>The real question is....will it ever get released
>>
>>at all?
>>
>>>I've been in touch with the producer and he says
>>
>>there are too many
>>
>>>liscensing issues (and the costs thereof)
>>
>>regarding many characters who
>>
>>>appeared in it, which so far have been thwarting
>>
>>the film getting even
>>seen
>>
>>>below Canada (except for those of you attending
>>
>>FC?).
>>
>>>Heck, I was the first fursuiter interviewed for
>>
>>the movie, gave them lots
>>of
>>
>>>my footage (including my tape from the Mascot Hall
>>
>>of Fame ceremonies) and
>>
>>>had the producer and director as guests on my TV
>>
>>show and I still haven't
>>
>>>even seen it yet....  :(
>>>
>>>Rapid T. Rabbit
>>>
>>>
>>>In a message dated 1/6/2007 11:16:44 A.M. Eastern
>>
>>Standard Time,
>>
>>>eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com writes:
>>>Does anyone know if the Mascot Moive is ever going
>>
>>to have a DVD
>>release?  I
>>
>>>thought I had heard something about a DVD release,
>>
>>but it appears that the
>>
>>>website hasn't been updated in almost a year and a
>>
>>half.
>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>To edit your subscription, visit:
>>>
>>
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> 
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From eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  9 20:49:13 2007
From: eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com (Jason Taipale)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 17:49:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Seamless necks, footpaws, and stuff
In-Reply-To: <d1c.24ce7cb.32d48341@aol.com>
Message-ID: <489932.93601.qm@web52513.mail.yahoo.com>

I had been wondering, myself, what would work well to use on the bottom of the feet.  I had found some vinal fabric that I estimate to be about 1/16" thick.  This would probabbly work well for short-term use, but I question the lifespan.  (They make vinal floors).  I had been looking for some type of rubber flooring, and maybe the interlocking stuff is what I've been looking for.  (Side note:  I don't recall seeing that at Home Depot)

Rollermark6 at aol.com wrote:    For foot paw pads I use foam rubber flooring, The interlocking flooring  squares for under weight benches, workshops etc. The are avail at lowes and they  come in different colors. You could also cut up some flip flops. (They are meant  to be walked on! )



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From megaplex at pawpet.org  Tue Jan  9 21:55:03 2007
From: megaplex at pawpet.org (Megaplex 2007)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 21:55:03 -0500
Subject: FL: [Megaplex 2007] Just to squash some rumours...
Message-ID: <45A45587.5050105@pawpet.org>

(Apologies if this is a duplicate e-mail; I sent the first one from my 
personal account, not the Megaplex address.)

I was just informed by one of our prospective members that there seems
to be a rumour going around that Megaplex 2007 has been cancelled.  This
is NOT the case; we are still scheduled to run March 2-4, 2007.  Please
visit http://www.ppmp.info/ for more information on the convention; we
will be updating the site frequently as we get closer to the convention.

If you have any questions about *anything* you hear about Megaplex,
please contact me directly on <mp-ceo at pawpet.org>.   Posts that I make
to the "megaplex" LiveJournal community are the official news of the
convention, as well (and [plug] we just posted our latest "Big Fun, No
Whammies!" newsletter to the community, with information on getting your
hotel rooms first and foremost.  Check it out at
http://megaplex.livejournal.com/, and get your room by 30 January! [/plug])

Thanks!
KFM!

---

Karl F. Meyers (Carl Fox)
Chairman
Megaplex 2007









From iluvferrets53187 at aol.com  Thu Jan 11 02:46:09 2007
From: iluvferrets53187 at aol.com (iluvferrets53187 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 02:46:09 -0500
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
Message-ID: <8C9036BB19AFEAF-1290-106A9@WEBMAIL-DC09.sysops.aol.com>

 Not going to make it to FWA due to transportation issues D: so some furs and I are planning to have our own little furry outing for those who can't make it. 
 
 So I was wondering, what sorts of fun things can fursuiters do around town? I know a lot of malls and stores won't let you in with something covering your head for security issues..so that's out... I was planning putt-putt for an activity, but what else is there? 
 
 Any ideas, or stories would be great. :3
 
 Thanks as always,
 ~Link Wolf
  
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Thu Jan 11 03:04:55 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 00:04:55 -0800
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
In-Reply-To: <8C9036BB19AFEAF-1290-106A9@WEBMAIL-DC09.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8C9036BB19AFEAF-1290-106A9@WEBMAIL-DC09.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0701110004h3db34748v6c5bcaafff6ad8da@mail.gmail.com>

Well us at SoCalFurs don't have a problem with fursuit activates. We have
fursuit boiling and minuter golf fursuiting. Just one thing. Call in advance
to have it set up with the owner/manager.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 1/10/07, iluvferrets53187 at aol.com <iluvferrets53187 at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Not going to make it to FWA due to transportation issues D:  so some furs
> and I are planning to have our own little furry outing for those who can't
> make it.
>
> So I was wondering, what sorts of fun things can fursuiters do around
> town? I know a lot of malls and stores won't let you in with something
> covering your head for security issues..so that's out... I was planning
> putt-putt for an activity, but what else is there?
>
> Any ideas, or stories would be great. :3
>
> Thanks as always,
> ~Link Wolf
>  ------------------------------
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From smrgol at optonline.net  Thu Jan 11 07:02:25 2007
From: smrgol at optonline.net (Smrgol -};>~)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 07:02:25 -0500
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
Message-ID: <000201c73578$5c6b9310$650fa8c0@EEYORE>


On 1/11/2007 3:04:55 AM, Donkey (donkeyears at gmail.com) wrote:
> Well us at SoCalFurs
> don't have a problem with fursuit activates. We have fursuit boiling ...


fursuit boiling ???!!

It's THAT hot where you are?

-};>~


From rsg0910 at iglou.com  Thu Jan 11 09:02:18 2007
From: rsg0910 at iglou.com (Robert Goodwin)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 09:02:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
In-Reply-To: <000201c73578$5c6b9310$650fa8c0@EEYORE> from "Smrgol -};
	>~" at Jan 11, 2007 07:02:25 AM
Message-ID: <E1H50VW-000314-H9@shell1.iglou.com>

> fursuit boiling ???!!

heh... It's more like pretty quiet where he is. You can hear pins drop.

Spares and strikes, anyone?

-boogi-

-- 
Homepage: http://www.furnation.com/boogi/
  AIM: rg1004 / boogikat007   ICQ: 103051846
       Y!M: boogikat         MSNM: boogikat007

Sez who that a deaf person can't have fun on the net? No ears required!

From snglspdcat at gmail.com  Thu Jan 11 10:21:08 2007
From: snglspdcat at gmail.com (single speed cheeta)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:21:08 -0500
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
In-Reply-To: <000201c73578$5c6b9310$650fa8c0@EEYORE>
References: <000201c73578$5c6b9310$650fa8c0@EEYORE>
Message-ID: <c23fb4800701110721p5476d30aw674b5aa0b0574527@mail.gmail.com>

*laughs*!!

On 1/11/07, Smrgol -};>~ <smrgol at optonline.net> wrote:
>
>
> On 1/11/2007 3:04:55 AM, Donkey (donkeyears at gmail.com) wrote:
> > Well us at SoCalFurs
> > don't have a problem with fursuit activates. We have fursuit boiling ...
>
>
> fursuit boiling ???!!
>
> It's THAT hot where you are?
>
> -};>~
>
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Thu Jan 11 11:48:41 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:48:41 -0800
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
In-Reply-To: <000201c73578$5c6b9310$650fa8c0@EEYORE>
References: <000201c73578$5c6b9310$650fa8c0@EEYORE>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0701110848j44e2103cla776f9a6ec25ec4e@mail.gmail.com>

I guess I hit the wrong word on the spell checker and did not notice the
error. *Blushes*
Though boiling does go hoof in hoof with fursuiting =b

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 1/11/07, Smrgol -};>~ <smrgol at optonline.net> wrote:
>
>
> On 1/11/2007 3:04:55 AM, Donkey (donkeyears at gmail.com) wrote:
> > Well us at SoCalFurs
> > don't have a problem with fursuit activates. We have fursuit boiling ...
>
>
> fursuit boiling ???!!
>
> It's THAT hot where you are?
>
> -};>~
>
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From francisco-sender-6f5fe9 at vulpes.net  Thu Jan 11 17:18:46 2007
From: francisco-sender-6f5fe9 at vulpes.net (Francisco Azinsan)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:18:46 -0600
Subject: FL: FC2007: Fur Your Eyes Only - Final Newsletter
Message-ID: <20070111221846.GA1139@corvus.critter.net>

Further Confusion 2007 Final Mission Briefings

Well, its that time agents, henchmen and villains. We have just a final
batch of announcements for you as you depart to the pre-arranged
rendezvous. Keep yer brush passes clean and your traveling papers in order
and we'll see you safely next week.

In this issue:
1.  FC06 DVD
2.  Patron and Sponsor Gifts
3.  Critterlympics
4.  A/V Staff
5.  Furly Edition Submission Box Locations
6.  FNL Announcement
7.  Airbrush Panel Announcement
8.  Initial Important Times
9.  Dealer's Room Map Available on Website
10. On Site UPS Store Times
11. Time Warp (Hotel Service Corridor) Restrictions
12. Event Schedule Published
13. Forecast Weather
14. The Mascot Movie
15. Kaffeeklatche Sign-Ups
16. Conbook Contributors
17. Final convention meeting



1.  FC06 DVD

We're very sorry to inform everyone that we've discovered a flaw in the
recently received DVDs from 2006 that caused some serious playback
problems in one chapter.  Right now, the manufacturers are producing
corrected DVDs, but we won't be receiving them in time for the convention.
We'd like to assure all the patrons from last year who have already been
shipped the faulty DVD that they will receive new ones as soon as we have
them ourselves.  The same will go for anyone who's purchased a DVD through
our on-line convention store.

Since this delay does mean that we won't have the redone DVD for the
convention, we will instead be making a list of those people who would
like a copy of it when it becomes available.  If you'd like to be put onto
the list, please see the helpful people at the convention store table
during the convention for the sign-up sheets, or you can place an order
through the on-line con store and it will be shipped as soon as we get the
replacement DVDs.


2.  Patron and Sponsor Gifts

Just a quick reminder to all our Patrons and Sponsors. After you get
registered on Thursday, you will be able to pick up your patron and staff
gifts at the Con store outside the dealers room starting Friday morning.
Also, Patrons, please mark your schedule that the Patron Lunch is at 1pm
on Saturday.


3.  Critterlympics

This year, thanks to a very generous bribery package from a charismatic
super-villain who wishes to remain anonymous until the time is right, the
Critterlympics will serve the dual purpose of public entertainment and
minion recruitment.  That's right, talent scouts will infiltrate the
adoring audience to see which team of intrepid critters has the right
stuff to become top-of-the-line henchmen with a chance to get in on the
ground floor of an exciting new nefarious scheme for global domination.
Events such as the Doomsday Relay, the Wicked Hoops of Contortion, the
Other Wicked Hoops of Different Contortion, and more will test your skills
to their limits -- do you have what it takes to assist in the conquest of
today's hip, modern, youth-oriented world?  Sign-ups will begin promptly
at noon on Friday, at the Info Desk.  The slots fill up very fast, so get
there early!  You must be there in person to sign up, unless your
representative can make a very persuasive case in your stead.  We'll also
be accepting volunteers for positions as team coaches and burly enforcers
(bats will be provided).


4.  A/V Staff

A/V tech crew will be accepting applications for staff at-convention for
anyone interested in working specific events on the main stage.
Volunteers can sign up for specific events such as Furry Night Live,
Masquerade, art auction, etc.  We need follow spot operators, camera
operators, and a variety of other positions.  There is no maximum, or
minimum number of shifts, and work is entirely voluntary.  All we ask is
that participants be present for the whole event, including it's
rehearsals.  Anyone may apply, no experience is necessary.  Training will
be offered at rehearsals, and in down-time between events.   Sign-up sheets
will be available in the Oak ballroom beginning Thursday night at 8:00 PM.
Interested parties may also e-mail av at furtherconfusion.org before the
convention to sign up, or ask any questions.


5.  Furly Edition Submission Box Locations

The Furly Edition, your, at con newsletter will have submission boxes
available 24 hours a day at the Info-desk and Convention Operations. If you
have party announcements or anything else you would like considered for
publication, drop them there. The deadline each day is 7pm for the
following days edition.


6.  FNL Announcement

Plans have already been set in motion for Sunday evening's Furry Night
Live! We already have a number of entries registered and planned. If you
have an act and would like to get a jump on paperwork, please contact FNL
Lead Operative Yippee Coyote at fnl at furtherconfusion.org to get an entry
form. These forms should be submitted by email, or can be turned in at
Friday morning's FNL Orientation at 10:30.  A special exception to this
deadline can be granted by prearrangement - if you won't be on-site by
then, or have an act outside the scope of the Masquerade, please contact
the FNL staff via email or stop by the Masquerade orientation Saturday
morning and ask for Yippee Coyote. This year we are offering cash prizes
for the winning entries as judged by audience ballot: $25, $50 and $100
First Prize. 


7.  Airbrush Panel Announcement

Lance Ikegawa and Eric Yee will be again be demonstrating their skill with
the airbrush Sunday at 1PM, and will be looking for a few volunteers to
help with the demonstration.  If you have any fursuit heads you'd like to
see a bit of touching up done on, make sure to bring them to the panel,
which will be held just outside of the convention entrance.  Have an idea
of what you'd like to see, and they will see what they can do to make it a
reality.


8.  Initial Important Times

Registration Opens at 4:00pm - 5:00pm (pre-reg only), then from 5:00pm -
10:00pm registration is open for everyone.
Dealers Room Setup begins at 4:00 pm - 9:00 pm
Artshow Setup begins Friday at 10:00 a.m.

For more details:

http://www.furtherconfusion.org/fc2007/hours.php


9.  Dealer's Room Map Available on Website

Our Dealer's Room and Furry Market Place maps have been published on the
website. There's always some last minute changes but if you want to figure
out where folks are, check out our Maps on the Dealers Page:

http://www.furtherconfusion.org/fc2007/dealers.php


10. On Site UPS Store Times

We've been able to work some things out with the on site UPS store at the
Doubletree. They will be available, especially for folk wanting to ship
their art show purchases or other materials on Sunday or Monday. No
pickups take place on Sunday so those items will hit UPS on Monday.

Hours are:

Monday-Friday: 8am to 6.30pm
Saturday: 10am to 4pm
Sunday: 10am to 4pm


11. Time Warp (Hotel Service Corridor) Restrictions

Please be advised that the hotel service corridor (aka the Time Warp) is
off limit to all attendees and even most for the FC staff. There are
dangerous conditions back there and if you are found there without
authorization, you will be asked to turn around and depart. Multiple
violations, will be construed as a violation of the attendee code of
conduct.


12. Event Schedule Published

A preliminary version of the schedule for Further Confusion 2007 is now
online at our WWW site, available at:

<http://www.furtherconfusion.org/fc2007/schedulebyday.php>

13. Forecast Weather

Arrival weather is looking pretty good, though bring a jacket as the
evenings will be chilly.

Wed Jan 17 Sunny
Hi 63F, Lo 40F, 10% chance of precip.

Thu Jan 18 Partly Cloudy
Hi 61F, Lo 39F, 20% chance of precip.

Fri Jan 19 Partly Cloudy
Hi 60F, Lo 40F, 10% chance of precip.


14. The Mascot Movie

Further Confusion in cooperation with Doug Barber proudly present ...

THE MASCOT MOVIE (in full color!)

Gather for this one of a kind rare occasion to view what is very possibly
the best film to ever be produced about the world of professional and
amateur mascotting.

Doug Barber came to Further Confusion in 2004 wanting to include the Furry
Fandom in part of his documentary.  With mild reservation we accepted his
offer and from that time never looked back.  Doug has done an excellent job
of bringing the trials and tribulations of sweating out for the glory of a
laugh or brightened day.  With narration by Daniel Stern (City Slickers,
Home Alone, The Wonder Years) we are transported behind the scenes to what
drives us to don the fur, sweat profusely and get taunted by hecklers.
While tongue-in-cheek, the serious sides of costuming are played out in a
very balanced and enjoyable piece.

Doug has offered FurCon exclusive rights to show The Mascot Movie for what
may be the last time in a U.S. setting since his trial market at CaliFur.
So dont miss out on seeing a piece of Furry History!

THE MASCOT MOVIE will be shown on Main Stage ... Saturday January 20th at
4PM just following the world famous Critterlympics!

Be sure to plan your day!

See you at the movies!


15. Kaffeeklatche Sign-Ups

GOH KaffeKlatches. KaffeeKlatches are an opportunity for any attendee to
speak to the guests in a special, one-on-one session and seating is
limited to 10.  Sign-up sheets for the KaffeeKlatches will be at the
Information Desk starting Thursday night at 7pm.

All take place in the Boardroom at 11:30am

Sublevel 03 - Friday, 11:30am
Baron Engel - Saturday, 11:30am
Jerry Pournelle - Sunday, 11:30am


16. Conbook Contributors

CONTRIBUTOR        CONTRIBUTION
Baron Engel        front cover, fillos pp. 12, 50
Vaughan Greer      fillo p. 6
Brian Reynolds     fillo p. 7
Daniel Keller      fillo p. 11
Shiuk              fillo p. 16
Frank Gembeck      fillo p. 17
Dook               fillo p. 21
Bill Fitts         fillo p. 29
Matthew Harrington fiction ("Morale") p. 32
N                  fillo p. 33
Renchan            fiction ("Even Double Agents . . .") p. 34
James L. Brandt    fillo p. 35
Dave Bryant        story illo p. 36
Kim Liu            fiction ("The Crucible") p. 37
Smudge             fillo p. 48, back cover
Blue Tiger         fillo p. 49
DJ Mixer           fillo p. 49

Many thanks to all of the submitters whether your work made it into the
final cut or not.


17. Final convention meeting

Our final staff meeting is this coming Saturday, January 13th, starting at
noon in the San Jose Doubletree hotel. Parking is free - just tell the
parking attendant that you're with Further Confusion when you arrive, and
then get a sticker for your parking slip in the meeting.

"Topicality is always suspect."

-- 
Further Confusion
info at furtherconfusion.org
http://www.furtherconfusion.org

From superjay at hawkcave.com  Thu Jan 11 17:56:49 2007
From: superjay at hawkcave.com (Super Jayhawk)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:56:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0701110848j44e2103cla776f9a6ec25ec4e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000201c73578$5c6b9310$650fa8c0@EEYORE>
	<d23d76ca0701110848j44e2103cla776f9a6ec25ec4e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0701111455330.31781@bigjay.hawkcave.com>


"Fursuit boiling" is when you do an 89-degree Renaissance Faire in a 
dragon suit.  Or same dragon in downtown Sacramento where it's 109.
(Not that I know anybody crazy enough to do that).

 								-SJ
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Donkey wrote:

> I guess I hit the wrong word on the spell checker and did not notice the
> error. *Blushes*
> Though boiling does go hoof in hoof with fursuiting =b
>
> His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
>
> On 1/11/07, Smrgol -};>~ <smrgol at optonline.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/11/2007 3:04:55 AM, Donkey (donkeyears at gmail.com) wrote:
>> > Well us at SoCalFurs
>> > don't have a problem with fursuit activates. We have fursuit boiling ...
>> 
>> 
>> fursuit boiling ???!!
>> 
>> It's THAT hot where you are?
>> 
>> -};>~
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> _______________________________________________
>> Fursuit Mail list.
>> To edit your subscription, visit:
>> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
>> 
>

From helvetica at dslextreme.com  Thu Jan 11 18:27:54 2007
From: helvetica at dslextreme.com (Phillip Burgess)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:27:54 -0800
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0701111455330.31781@bigjay.hawkcave.com>
References: <000201c73578$5c6b9310$650fa8c0@EEYORE>
	<d23d76ca0701110848j44e2103cla776f9a6ec25ec4e@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0701111455330.31781@bigjay.hawkcave.com>
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On Jan 11, 2007, at 2:56 PM, Super Jayhawk wrote:

> "Fursuit boiling" is when you do an 89-degree Renaissance Faire in a
> dragon suit.  Or same dragon in downtown Sacramento where it's 109.
> (Not that I know anybody crazy enough to do that).

A *black* dragon fursuit, mind you.  In full sun.  Incorporating all  
sorts of foam and polyfill padding.  No, fortunately we don't know  
anyone that crazy.

So what's this other fursuit sport?  Minotaur golf?

-- Phil


From iluvferrets53187 at aol.com  Thu Jan 11 18:41:03 2007
From: iluvferrets53187 at aol.com (iluvferrets53187 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:41:03 -0500
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
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 lol, okay so we have BOWLING and mini-golf.
 
 Any other ideas? That's pretty much all I could think of myself XD
 
 ~Link Wolf
    
 -----Original Message-----
 From: donkeyears at gmail.com
 To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
 Sent: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:04 AM
 Subject: Re: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
 
  Well us at SoCalFurs don't have a problem with fursuit activates. We have fursuit boiling and minuter golf fursuiting. Just one thing. Call in advance to have it set up with the owner/manager.
 
 His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
 
 On 1/10/07, iluvferrets53187 at aol.com < iluvferrets53187 at aol.com> wrote:  Not going to make it to FWA due to transportation issues D: so some furs and I are planning to have our own little furry outing for those who can't make it. 
 
 So I was wondering, what sorts of fun things can fursuiters do around town? I know a lot of malls and stores won't let you in with something covering your head for security issues..so that's out... I was planning putt-putt for an activity, but what else is there? 
 
 Any ideas, or stories would be great. :3
 
 Thanks as always,
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From chairo at critter.net  Thu Jan 11 18:48:47 2007
From: chairo at critter.net (Lee Strom)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:48:47 -0800
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
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Well,  you could do bungee jumping or sky swing such as this:

(warning 11 Meg file)

http://www.supercoon.com/video/supercoon.mpg

That was, wow, almost 8 years ago now.  I do have some other adventures 
planned  for the future ... stay tooned.

Chirr,

Chairo

-somewhat insane, 100% fluffy-

iluvferrets53187 at aol.com wrote:
> lol, okay so we have BOWLING and mini-golf.
> 
> Any other ideas?  That's pretty much all I could think of myself  XD
> 
> ~Link Wolf
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: donkeyears at gmail.com
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Sent: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:04 AM
> Subject: Re: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
> 
> Well us at SoCalFurs don't have a problem with fursuit activates. We 
> have fursuit boiling and minuter golf fursuiting. Just one thing. Call 
> in advance to have it set up with the owner/manager.
> 
> His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
> 
> On 1/10/07, *iluvferrets53187 at aol.com 
> <javascript:parent.ComposeTo('iluvferrets53187 at aol.com', '');>* < 
> iluvferrets53187 at aol.com 
> <javascript:parent.ComposeTo('iluvferrets53187 at aol.com', '');>> wrote:
> 
>     Not going to make it to FWA due to transportation issues D:  so some
>     furs and I are planning to have our own little furry outing for
>     those who can't make it. 
> 
>     So I was wondering, what sorts of fun things can fursuiters do
>     around town? I know a lot of malls and stores won't let you in with
>     something covering your head for security issues..so that's out... I
>     was planning putt-putt for an activity, but what else is there?
> 
>     Any ideas, or stories would be great. :3
> 
>     Thanks as always,
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From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Thu Jan 11 19:12:50 2007
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 00:12:50 +0000
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
In-Reply-To: <7E8C6E1C-ECFA-4967-88BD-915738F11896@dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <BAY115-F42C323B5DD33A8D082DE7A9B00@phx.gbl>

I might want to try that! The black dragon in full sun light... but for no 
longer than an hour.


>From: Phillip Burgess <helvetica at dslextreme.com>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: Re: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
>Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:27:54 -0800
>
>On Jan 11, 2007, at 2:56 PM, Super Jayhawk wrote:
>
> > "Fursuit boiling" is when you do an 89-degree Renaissance Faire in a
> > dragon suit.  Or same dragon in downtown Sacramento where it's 109.
> > (Not that I know anybody crazy enough to do that).
>
>A *black* dragon fursuit, mind you.  In full sun.  Incorporating all
>sorts of foam and polyfill padding.  No, fortunately we don't know
>anyone that crazy.
>
>So what's this other fursuit sport?  Minotaur golf?
>
>-- Phil
>
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From chairo at critter.net  Thu Jan 11 19:21:25 2007
From: chairo at critter.net (Lee Strom)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:21:25 -0800
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
In-Reply-To: <BAY115-F42C323B5DD33A8D082DE7A9B00@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY115-F42C323B5DD33A8D082DE7A9B00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <45A6D485.4090502@critter.net>

Oi, I did a 20+ minute soccer game in full costume for UC Hayward with 
some of the local group ... it was a half time special ... 105 degrees.

That's where falling over in jest was actually like taking a break. 
Running for that period of time was like living in the den of Hades himself.

Then there was the halftime show for the Final Four at Stanford ... 
playing basketball on a regulation court for even 10 minutes ... bout 
died.  But man its worth it ... guess it depends on your insanitly 
level.  Mine can be high at times.  Whee.

Chairo

shane ramos wrote:
> I might want to try that! The black dragon in full sun light... but for no 
> longer than an hour.
> 
> 
> 
>>From: Phillip Burgess <helvetica at dslextreme.com>
>>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>>Subject: Re: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
>>Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:27:54 -0800
>>
>>On Jan 11, 2007, at 2:56 PM, Super Jayhawk wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Fursuit boiling" is when you do an 89-degree Renaissance Faire in a
>>>dragon suit.  Or same dragon in downtown Sacramento where it's 109.
>>>(Not that I know anybody crazy enough to do that).
>>
>>A *black* dragon fursuit, mind you.  In full sun.  Incorporating all
>>sorts of foam and polyfill padding.  No, fortunately we don't know
>>anyone that crazy.
>>
>>So what's this other fursuit sport?  Minotaur golf?
>>
>>-- Phil
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Thu Jan 11 20:12:58 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:12:58 -0800
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
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The is a couple of good things doing that in fursuit. First moving
that fast you should stay cool. Secant with a fursuit head on you wont
be able to see the ground. So the people that are afraid of heights
wont be afraid.

Maybe I should do that so people can see a flying donkey that's not
animated. =b Just hope that I don't have the... stuff scared out of me
and you are below to receive the falling... stuff. Maybe there are
reasons why donkeys dont fly.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 1/11/07, Lee Strom <chairo at critter.net> wrote:
> Well,  you could do bungee jumping or sky swing such as this:
>
> (warning 11 Meg file)
>
> http://www.supercoon.com/video/supercoon.mpg
>
> That was, wow, almost 8 years ago now.  I do have some other adventures
> planned  for the future ... stay tooned.
>
> Chirr,
>
> Chairo
>

From donkeyears at gmail.com  Thu Jan 11 20:22:05 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:22:05 -0800
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0701111455330.31781@bigjay.hawkcave.com>
References: <000201c73578$5c6b9310$650fa8c0@EEYORE>
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I fursuited in Sacramento. My sister and brother-in-law live there.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 1/11/07, Super Jayhawk <superjay at hawkcave.com> wrote:
>
> "Fursuit boiling" is when you do an 89-degree Renaissance Faire in a
> dragon suit.  Or same dragon in downtown Sacramento where it's 109.
> (Not that I know anybody crazy enough to do that).
>
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From eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 22:02:11 2007
From: eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com (Jason Taipale)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:02:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
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Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote: I guess I hit the wrong word on the spell checker and did not notice the error. *Blushes*
 Though boiling does go hoof in hoof with fursuiting =b
 

I think we can come up with a better name for the product than a "fursuit boiler."  My vote is for the "Personal, portable, sauna suit."

 
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From evil.overlord at hawke.de  Fri Jan 12 03:55:27 2007
From: evil.overlord at hawke.de (Hawke)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:55:27 +0100
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
In-Reply-To: <BAY115-F42C323B5DD33A8D082DE7A9B00@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY115-F42C323B5DD33A8D082DE7A9B00@phx.gbl>
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shane ramos wrote:
> I might want to try that! The black dragon in full sun light... but for no 
> longer than an hour.
>
>   
Just one hour?
Done LARP with my Beastman: 30?C  (86?F) bright Sunlight (ok, bright 
Sunlight not all the time) 16 hours, three days, black fur, lots of 
padding and heavy metal Armour.
Am I just crazy or the World Champion in Fursuit boiling? ;-)


From uck at growf.com  Sat Jan 13 01:14:44 2007
From: uck at growf.com (uck at growf.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:14:44 -0800
Subject: FL: Attaching teeth to a foam head
Message-ID: <45A878D4.6080401@growf.com>

I'm looking into making some simple little sculpey teeth for the head 
I'm working on right now, and I'm wondering how anyone else has attached 
teeth to a foam head.  I'm just planning on a couple little fangs, not a 
whole jaw of teeth, so I need a way to attach individual teeth to the head.

Hotgluing sculpey to foam doesn't sound like it'd be strong enough.

Best idea that's come to mind (I think someone recommended this at some 
point, but I can't remember who) is to embed something in the tooth to 
give it an attachment point (just a small loop of wire or something), 
then sew that into the fur.

Anyone have a better method?

From dlely at juno.com  Sat Jan 13 05:11:29 2007
From: dlely at juno.com (David L. Ely)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 02:11:29 -0800
Subject: FL: Attaching teeth to a foam head
Message-ID: <20070113.021130.-880733.0.dlely@juno.com>

On Friday 12 January 2007 Uck writes:

> I'm looking into making some simple little sculpey teeth for the head 
> 
> I'm working on right now, and I'm wondering how anyone else has 
> attached teeth to a foam head.  I'm just planning on a couple little
fangs, 
> not a whole jaw of teeth, so I need a way to attach individual teeth to

> the head.
> 
> Hotgluing sculpey to foam doesn't sound like it'd be strong enough.
> 
> Best idea that's come to mind (I think someone recommended this at 
> some point, but I can't remember who) is to embed something in the
tooth 
> to give it an attachment point (just a small loop of wire or 
> something), then sew that into the fur.
> 
> Anyone have a better method?

When I remade and replaced the two canine fangs for my head a few years
ago, I sculpted teeth with a root that was essentially a mirror image of
the exposed tooth part.  I then made a small hole in the foam of the
lower jaw, squirted some hot glue into the hole, and inserted the root
end into that glue filled hole.  The teeth are still in the jaw solidly.

David L. Ely - AKA: Scruff E. Coyote - dlely at juno.com
"How many hearts with warm blood in them are beating
under the cover of the woods . . . .   A multitude of
animal people, intimately related to us . . . are busy
about their own affairs as we are about ours." - John Muir

From eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 13 20:25:11 2007
From: eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com (Jason Taipale)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 17:25:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Seamless necks, footpaws, and stuff
In-Reply-To: <d1c.24ce7cb.32d48341@aol.com>
Message-ID: <667271.48891.qm@web52501.mail.yahoo.com>


Rollermark6 at aol.com wrote:          
  
  There are lots of methods, when in doubt, add more fur!  
  For foot paw pads I use foam rubber flooring, The interlocking flooring   squares for under weight benches, workshops etc. The are avail at lowes and they   come in different colors. 
  

I found the interlocking foam squares  mentioned above.  While they may work for paw pads, I question how  well they may work for the entire bottom of the foot.  Has anyone  tried that?
  
  I think the Critter Costuming book mentioned using sheets of Vulcanized  rubber for the bottom of feet.  I have looked around quite a bit  to try and find something like this, although I havn't had much  luck.  I have called some stores that specialize in  flooring.  About half of them didn't have anyting like that.   The other half had a rubber weight room flooring, but it was expensive  and had to be special ordrered.  Has anyone found a good source  for rubber sheeting that would work for the entire bottom of the foot?
  
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From tibortiger at bearpawsystemseng.com  Sun Jan 14 00:03:46 2007
From: tibortiger at bearpawsystemseng.com (Tibor Tiger)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 00:03:46 -0500
Subject: FL: footpaw materal
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Look online for crepe soling - its used to make shoe soles so it  
should wear like normal shoes.  It comes in flat sheets, usually  
black and white are easy to get.  I bought some about 8 years ago  
online but I have no idea from whom.  Just google crepe soling and  
see what you come up with.


From monkaya_blue_wolf at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 14 00:36:11 2007
From: monkaya_blue_wolf at yahoo.com (Monkaya)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:36:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
In-Reply-To: <45A6CCDF.2090106@critter.net>
Message-ID: <747781.32520.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com>


	 |\,/|
	< * * > 
	  \_/
	   - Hel-gro, !
	____________________
	1 - Fun in fursuits:
	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	-- CHAIRO:  ... could do bungee jumping

	-- LINK WOLF:  ... Any other ideas?

	Bungi jumping I have not tried.  but but I have
persued other werewolf appearance oportunities:

	1 - birthday parties,

	2 - 'Boo at the ZOO' (halloween season)

	3 - Nativity reenactament at church (Christmas.  I
played a wolf seeking the Star of Bethelehem - after a
repentanc stiring encounter with an angel (Acts 9:
3-4.  Alma 27: 11 [in 'Book of Mormon']))

	4 - Conduit (freely roaming halls of hotel with other
characters and critters during science fiction
convention)

	5 - Dog park ribbon cutting (I posed for photos with
a frizbee in my jaws).  

	6 - Forth of July Parade!  (98 degrees.  I walked
entire route without fainting, waving my flag,
dancing, and exclaiming "Hap-py birth-day A-mer-i-ca!"

	5 - Haunted Canyon Train (riding scenic excursion ,
Halloween)

	6 - howls (picnic, LARP, and napping in hamick in a
remote forest camground),

	7 - Kid's safety fair (seeking ear scratches - and
maybe a fire engine ride),

	8 - Neighborhood Watch Street Party (carnival for
families protected by baricades police set up for us. 
I led a parde of kids on decorated tricyces and such)

	9 - premixing sour dough pancake batter (with my wolf
head on) so it can ferment over night.

	10 - Saint Patricks day parade.

	11 - Santa Claus parade (arrival at local mall with
other mascots.}

	12 - TRAX light rail station ribon cutting (Talked
with mayor, Kept out of camera by security, but took
home a brownie!).

	.......

	I wish ye all an Enlightening Martin Luther King Day!
    ____________________________	
    |
    | 	 |\,/|
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    |	  \_/
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    |	friendly neighborhood werewolf.
    |
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From rufuswolf77 at hotmail.com  Sun Jan 14 04:04:52 2007
From: rufuswolf77 at hotmail.com (rufus wolf)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 04:04:52 -0500
Subject: FL: footpaw materal
In-Reply-To: <EF546D1C-2858-4B9B-B3D0-DCFDA5F9C9C2@bearpawsystemseng.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F62F0DAA699AB9BF786D6ABAB60@phx.gbl>

I know Delchers Leather In florida carries the sheets of sloe metarial and 
if he doesnt have it in stock,he can get it. I bought some off of him when i 
was down there. It was alittle pricey,but i think he'll ship it where it 
needs to go.The # is 904 641 5191. I know he uses it to make flip flops,so 
it should be good for foot paws!!
~Wolfie


>From: Tibor Tiger <tibortiger at bearpawsystemseng.com>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: FL: footpaw materal
>Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 00:03:46 -0500
>
>Look online for crepe soling - its used to make shoe soles so it
>should wear like normal shoes.  It comes in flat sheets, usually
>black and white are easy to get.  I bought some about 8 years ago
>online but I have no idea from whom.  Just google crepe soling and
>see what you come up with.
>
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From mhagen_2001 at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 14 12:03:56 2007
From: mhagen_2001 at yahoo.com (Patch)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 09:03:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Seamless necks, footpaws, and stuff
In-Reply-To: <mailman.7.1168794001.28358.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <641111.62933.qm@web50314.mail.yahoo.com>


> From: Jason Taipale <eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com>
> 
>   I think the Critter Costuming book mentioned using
> sheets of Vulcanized  rubber for the bottom of feet.
>  I have looked around quite a bit  to try and find
> something like this, although I havn't had much 
> luck.

Orchard Supply Hardware sells sheet rubber material in
their flooring section.  At my local stores it's back
where all their chains and cables are stored, as
that's where they have a table for cutting.

--Patch

*******************************************
Homer: That baby-proofing crook wanted to sell us safety 
  covers for the electrical outlets. But I'll just draw 
  bunny faces on them to scare Maggie away.
Marge: She's not afraid of bunnies.
Homer: (ominously) She will be.


 
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From chairo at critter.net  Sun Jan 14 13:57:43 2007
From: chairo at critter.net (Chairo)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:57:43 -0800
Subject: FL: Attaching teeth to a foam head
In-Reply-To: <45A878D4.6080401@growf.com>
References: <45A878D4.6080401@growf.com>
Message-ID: <45AA7D27.6070808@critter.net>

Working with Sculpy is definately difficult ... Pompeii's nose and my 
realistic raccoon's jaw set are both Sculpy..

I used a ton of hot glue for Pompeii, and I drilled holes in the jaw and 
sewed them to the frame of the moving jaw.   This is only because I was 
too lazy to use epoxy ... which if you dont mind using a 2 part and cure 
time ... it should work great.

Chrir,

Chairo

uck at growf.com wrote:

>I'm looking into making some simple little sculpey teeth for the head 
>I'm working on right now, and I'm wondering how anyone else has attached 
>teeth to a foam head.  I'm just planning on a couple little fangs, not a 
>whole jaw of teeth, so I need a way to attach individual teeth to the head.
>
>Hotgluing sculpey to foam doesn't sound like it'd be strong enough.
>
>Best idea that's come to mind (I think someone recommended this at some 
>point, but I can't remember who) is to embed something in the tooth to 
>give it an attachment point (just a small loop of wire or something), 
>then sew that into the fur.
>
>Anyone have a better method?
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From anthrobunny at gmail.com  Sun Jan 14 15:06:48 2007
From: anthrobunny at gmail.com (Blackberry)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 12:06:48 -0800
Subject: FL: Attaching teeth to a foam head
In-Reply-To: <45AA7D27.6070808@critter.net>
References: <45A878D4.6080401@growf.com> <45AA7D27.6070808@critter.net>
Message-ID: <982832d90701141206i1ef1d853x19b689ee5500529a@mail.gmail.com>

For my horse suit, I actually used some novelty erasers that I found
in a party supply store.  They were apple shaped, flat, but rather
thick, so I cut the sides off to square them off, painted them with
oil-based primer, and hot-glued them to the head's plastic mesh.


-- 
"I guess I like board games more than most people. And by that I mean
I like playing board games more than most people do, and I like board
games more than I like most people." - Strong Sad, homestarrunner.com

From sckrabei2 at hotmail.com  Sun Jan 14 20:06:11 2007
From: sckrabei2 at hotmail.com (luke sckrabei)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 01:06:11 +0000
Subject: FL: Pic of Licenced spyro suit???
In-Reply-To: <c51.b9a7331.32d1c511@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY102-F151A72F0957EFDBEF6B1B0FBB50@phx.gbl>




cheers mate,

Sorry took so long to get back,

getting broadband next week, plenty to show the list :)


Luke.

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From iluvferrets53187 at aol.com  Sun Jan 14 21:51:13 2007
From: iluvferrets53187 at aol.com (iluvferrets53187 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:51:13 -0500
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
In-Reply-To: <747781.32520.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8C90667274273EC-9F4-73C6@WEBMAIL-DC06.sysops.aol.com>

 That's some cool stuff (if only my city actually HAD activities like that!), but it wasn't really what I was looking for. I was talking more about...how to describe it...non-community-or-holiday-related activities? Just everyday "I feel like throwing on a suit and having fun with friends" kind of activities, like going bowling and minigolfing as mentioned. I like the zoo idea though, I'll have to check with the Tulsa Zoo and the Aquarium to see if its okay to walk around in-suit there. :3
 
 ~Link Wolf 
    
 -----Original Message-----
 From: monkaya_blue_wolf at yahoo.com
 To: chairo at critter.net; fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
 Sent: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 9:36 PM
 Subject: Re: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
 
  
     |\,/|
    < * * > 
      \_/
       - Hel-gro, !
    ____________________
    1 - Fun in fursuits:
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    -- CHAIRO:  ... could do bungee jumping

    -- LINK WOLF:  ... Any other ideas?

    Bungi jumping I have not tried.  but but I have
persued other werewolf appearance oportunities:

    1 - birthday parties,

    2 - 'Boo at the ZOO' (halloween season)

    3 - Nativity reenactament at church (Christmas.  I
played a wolf seeking the Star of Bethelehem - after a
repentanc stiring encounter with an angel (Acts 9:
3-4.  Alma 27: 11 [in 'Book of Mormon']))

    4 - Conduit (freely roaming halls of hotel with other
characters and critters during science fiction
convention)

    5 - Dog park ribbon cutting (I posed for photos with
a frizbee in my jaws).  

    6 - Forth of July Parade!  (98 degrees.  I walked
entire route without fainting, waving my flag,
dancing, and exclaiming "Hap-py birth-day A-mer-i-ca!"

    5 - Haunted Canyon Train (riding scenic excursion ,
Halloween)

    6 - howls (picnic, LARP, and napping in hamick in a
remote forest camground),

    7 - Kid's safety fair (seeking ear scratches - and
maybe a fire engine ride),

    8 - Neighborhood Watch Street Party (carnival for
families protected by baricades police set up for us. 
I led a parde of kids on decorated tricyces and such)

    9 - premixing sour dough pancake batter (with my wolf
head on) so it can ferment over night.

    10 - Saint Patricks day parade.

    11 - Santa Claus parade (arrival at local mall with
other mascots.}

    12 - TRAX light rail station ribon cutting (Talked
with mayor, Kept out of camera by security, but took
home a brownie!).

    .......

    I wish ye all an Enlightening Martin Luther King Day!
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From dlely at juno.com  Mon Jan 15 03:04:09 2007
From: dlely at juno.com (David L. Ely)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 00:04:09 -0800
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
Message-ID: <20070115.014534.-452483.1.dlely@juno.com>

On Sunday 14 January 2007 Link Wolf writes:
That's some cool stuff (if only my city actually HAD activities like
that!), but it wasn't really what I was looking for. I was talking more
about...how to describe it...non-community-or-holiday-related activities?
Just everyday "I feel like throwing on a suit and having fun with
friends" kind of activities, like going bowling and minigolfing as
mentioned. I like the zoo idea though, I'll have to check with the Tulsa
Zoo and the Aquarium to see if its okay to walk around in-suit there. :3

~Link Wolf 
How about skateboarding?!  Also mayhaps rollerblading/skating, and ice
skating?

David L. Ely - AKA: Scruff E. Coyote - dlely at juno.com
"How many hearts with warm blood in them are beating
under the cover of the woods . . . .   A multitude of
animal people, intimately related to us . . . are busy
about their own affairs as we are about ours." - John Muir
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From telain at matthewmills.info  Mon Jan 15 04:51:16 2007
From: telain at matthewmills.info (Telain Kat)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 03:51:16 -0600
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
In-Reply-To: <20070115.014534.-452483.1.dlely@juno.com>
References: <20070115.014534.-452483.1.dlely@juno.com>
Message-ID: <004401c7388a$b3af7050$88535605@TelainLap>

I got an idea, Link. Go down to Stillwater and hang out with the furries at
OSU.

 

  _____  

From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
[mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of David L. Ely
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 2:04 AM
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Subject: Re: FL: Fun things to do in suit?

 

On Sunday 14 January 2007 Link Wolf writes:

That's some cool stuff (if only my city actually HAD activities like that!),
but it wasn't really what I was looking for. I was talking more about...how
to describe it...non-community-or-holiday-related activities? Just everyday
"I feel like throwing on a suit and having fun with friends" kind of
activities, like going bowling and minigolfing as mentioned. I like the zoo
idea though, I'll have to check with the Tulsa Zoo and the Aquarium to see
if its okay to walk around in-suit there. :3

~Link Wolf 

How about skateboarding?!  Also mayhaps rollerblading/skating, and ice
skating?


David L. Ely - AKA: Scruff E. Coyote - dlely at juno.com
"How many hearts with warm blood in them are beating
under the cover of the woods . . . .   A multitude of
animal people, intimately related to us . . . are busy
about their own affairs as we are about ours." - John Muir

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From tygrcwby at hotmail.com  Mon Jan 15 16:51:47 2007
From: tygrcwby at hotmail.com (Christopher "Tyger" Roth)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:51:47 -0600
Subject: FL: It's that time again! Saint Louis Mardi Gras
Message-ID: <BAY131-DAV161540BE416B6265AF817AD8B50@phx.gbl>

Mardi Gras Saint Louis - 2/16-2/18 2007



This year we once again have a great weekend planned. On the agenda:



Friday 2/16

Dinner for those arriving early - $10-$15 per person

Cosmic Bowling at Sunset Lanes on Watson Road (Fursuits welcome) $10 per 
person for shoes and bowling



Saturday 2/17

It's an EARLY start to get down to the parade route.

Head down to the Soulard area at 8am. Parking is $20 per vehicle roughly

Breakfast at the Soulard Coffee Garden  $6-$8 per person

Soulard Mardi Gras Grand Parade (all the beads you can snag!)



Afternoon free



Saturday at 5pm we meet back up and grab a bite at Imo's Pizza $6-$10 per 
person

Then it's off to the amazing City Museum (Fursuits Welcome) Admission  $8 
with an additional $6 if you want to see the World Aquarium. The CM is open 
till 1am for you to play your heart out in!



Sunday 2/18

Meet up for Sunday Brunch at 11am



Afternoon free for trips to the zoo or other museums and departures at your 
leisure!



We are once again taking a collection up for the beads that well be 
purchased for handing out to the kids at the Cosmic Bowling  and at the City 
Museum. If you would like to contribute, you can paypal to 
tygrcwby at hotmail.com or let me know how much you want to kick in and give it 
to me at MG.



We have 3  hotels this year for those wanting a room

Hampton Suites (right across from the zoo) $99 a night plus tax

Red Roof (close to the Big Blue House) $79.99 a night plus tax

Best Western Kirkwood Inn (at Lindberg/Kirkwood Rd and 44) $70 per night 
plus tax



Please let me know as soon as you can if you are able to make it also if you 
want a room reserved  at the special MG rates! At tygrcwby at hotmail.com



Looking forward to seeing everyone!

Tyger


From iluvferrets53187 at aol.com  Mon Jan 15 19:24:12 2007
From: iluvferrets53187 at aol.com (iluvferrets53187 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:24:12 -0500
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
In-Reply-To: <20070115.014534.-452483.1.dlely@juno.com>
References: <20070115.014534.-452483.1.dlely@juno.com>
Message-ID: <8C9071BC7ED3B72-B8C-7D4@WEBMAIL-DC05.sysops.aol.com>

  XD I don't know if fursuiters on wheels would be a very safe thing to do, its hard enough to see just walking! But those are good out of suit activities we could do. :3
 
 ~Link Wolf
    
 -----Original Message-----
 From: dlely at juno.com
 To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
 Sent: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:04 AM
 Subject: Re: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
 
  On Sunday 14 January 2007 Link Wolf writes:  That's some cool stuff (if only my city actually HAD activities like that!), but it wasn't really what I was looking for. I was talking more about...how to describe it...non-community-or-holiday-related activities? Just everyday "I feel like throwing on a suit and having fun with friends" kind of activities, like going bowling and minigolfing as mentioned. I like the zoo idea though, I'll have to check with the Tulsa Zoo and the Aquarium to see if its okay to walk around in-suit there. :3
 
 ~Link Wolf   How about skateboarding?! Also mayhaps rollerblading/skating, and ice skating? 
 David L. Ely - AKA: Scruff E. Coyote - dlely at juno.com
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From iluvferrets53187 at aol.com  Mon Jan 15 19:26:53 2007
From: iluvferrets53187 at aol.com (iluvferrets53187 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:26:53 -0500
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
In-Reply-To: <004401c7388a$b3af7050$88535605@TelainLap>
References: <20070115.014534.-452483.1.dlely@juno.com>
	<004401c7388a$b3af7050$88535605@TelainLap>
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 Heh, well I don't live in Oklahoma, for one. The gang is coming over here to Fort Smith, but if you furries down there want to come with 'em, just let me know. ;3
 
 ~Link Wolf 
    
 -----Original Message-----
 From: telain at matthewmills.info
 To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
 Sent: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 1:51 AM
 Subject: Re: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
 
   I got an idea, Link. Go down to Stillwater and hang out with the furries at OSU.       From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of David L. Ely
 Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 2:04 AM
 To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
 Subject: Re: FL: Fun things to do in suit?     On Sunday 14 January 2007 Link Wolf writes:    That's some cool stuff (if only my city actually HAD activities like that!), but it wasn't really what I was looking for. I was talking more about...how to describe it...non-community-or-holiday-related activities? Just everyday "I feel like throwing on a suit and having fun with friends" kind of activities, like going bowling and minigolfing as mentioned. I like the zoo idea though, I'll have to check with the Tulsa Zoo and the Aquarium to see if its okay to walk around in-suit there. :3
 
 ~Link Wolf     How about skateboarding?! Also mayhaps rollerblading/skating, and ice skating?   
 David L. Ely - AKA: Scruff E. Coyote - dlely at juno.com
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From foxfairy at gmail.com  Mon Jan 15 23:42:39 2007
From: foxfairy at gmail.com (Springmoon)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:42:39 -0500
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
In-Reply-To: <20070115.014534.-452483.1.dlely@juno.com>
References: <20070115.014534.-452483.1.dlely@juno.com>
Message-ID: <c4c590d70701152042r1bd159dfyc6761a59acf304eb@mail.gmail.com>

>_> Ice skating in-suit could be pretty dangerous, mainly because
falling on ice = much pain + risk of serious injury. Suits are baggy
and hamper movement, and with the bad peripheral vision in most
fursuits, zooming skaters might knock into you or cause you to fall.
It would probably be harder to get up, and (worst case scenario) if
you needed medical attention a suit would def. prove to be a problem!

What about going out shopping, or for a walk in a local park? Dress
your 'suit up in some running gear and take a mock-jog around your
neighborhood? Football/baseball/othersport party? It's fun to even
walk around in character for a few hours (go food shopping, if it's
okay with the store, getting a coffee, stuff like that)
On 1/15/07, David L. Ely <dlely at juno.com> wrote:
>
> On Sunday 14 January 2007 Link Wolf writes:
> That's some cool stuff (if only my city actually HAD activities like that!),
> but it wasn't really what I was looking for. I was talking more about...how
> to describe it...non-community-or-holiday-related
> activities? Just everyday "I feel like throwing on a suit and having fun
> with friends" kind of activities, like going bowling and minigolfing as
> mentioned. I like the zoo idea though, I'll have to check with the Tulsa Zoo
> and the Aquarium to see if its okay to walk around in-suit there. :3
>
> ~Link Wolf
> How about skateboarding?!  Also mayhaps rollerblading/skating, and ice
> skating?
>
> David L. Ely - AKA: Scruff E. Coyote - dlely at juno.com
> "How many hearts with warm blood in them are beating
> under the cover of the woods . . . .   A multitude of
> animal people, intimately related to us . . . are busy
> about their own affairs as we are about ours." - John Muir
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From monkaya_blue_wolf at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 16 00:32:00 2007
From: monkaya_blue_wolf at yahoo.com (Monkaya)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:32:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
In-Reply-To: <20070115.014534.-452483.1.dlely@juno.com>
Message-ID: <537924.17124.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com>


	 |\,/|
	< * * > 
	  \_/
	   - Hel-gro, !
	________________
	1 - Fursuit fun:
	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	-- LINK WOLF:  mayhaps rollerblading

	Durring one Fouth of Julu parade, I was delighted to
see a nicely done and elaborately detailed wolf
fursuit roll gracefully by with lively animation -
over railroad tracks - with inline skates concealed in
the hindpaws!

	 |\,/|
	< * * > 
	  \_/
	   - 'Monkaya'
	friendly neighborhood werewolf.



 
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From jeremymilne at fuzzyminded.com  Tue Jan  9 15:51:18 2007
From: jeremymilne at fuzzyminded.com (Jeremy Milne)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 12:51:18 -0800
Subject: FL: Mascot Moive Follow-Up / Further Confusion Viewing
References: <20070107001059.17697.qmail@web51614.mail.yahoo.com>
	<45A3EA0A.5060702@critter.net>
Message-ID: <004c01c7342f$eb4a4990$f6876c18@critterville>

wow, i can remember a time when it was unprofessional to show behinds the 
scenes stuff with mascots, mind you, i can also remember a time when people 
could go to fc without having to avoid cameras.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lee Strom" <chairo at critter.net>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 11:16 AM
Subject: FL: Mascot Moive Follow-Up / Further Confusion Viewing


> Greetings fellow costumers,
>
> Further Confusion and myself have worked professionally with Doug
> Barber, the producer of the Mascot Movie.
>
> In 2004 he brought his cameras to our convention and did a very good
> piece about the amateur / fan side of mascotting in relation to his
> overall film which debuted later that year in the Canidian Independent
> Film Circuit.
>
> In 2005 he was hoping to have a New York agency (managed by a former New
> Line Cinema exec)pick up the film for U.S. distribution.  Due to several
> legal setbacks that avenue had been scrapped.
>
> Doug is hoping that he will be able to produce his DVD for the North
> American market.  But there are still many hurdles.  Professional
> Mascots and the companies that govern them can be a finiky bunch.
>
> So for now, there is no planned release of DVDs.  But you do have two
> options:
>
> 1) Go to FC this year and see it on the big screen!  Doug has offered us
> a unique opportunity to show it to the fandom, very possibly the last
> time in this sort of setting.  It will be shown at 4PM on Main Stage
> just after the famed original Critterlympics.  Be sure to plan your day.
>
> http://www.furtherconfusion.org/fc2007/schedulebyday.php?day=1_20_07
>
> 2) You can email Doug or James Phillips (Co-Director / Producer) and see
> what they have to say aboug getting a DVD ...
>
> http://www.mascotmovie.com/
>
> james at mascotmovie.com
> doug at mascotmovie.com
>
> Heres hoping to see you at Further Confusion ...
>
> Stay Fluffy!
>
> Lee "Chairo" Strom
>
> - Costumer
> - Media / Public Relations Director for Further Confusion / AAE Inc.
> - ... and all around strange and funny qoon type dude
>
> *PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME WITH ANY QUESTIONS!*
>
>
>
> Sardog wrote:
>> It was actually a pretty good movie. :)
>>
>> We were at their, I believe, first screening at a film
>> fest.  We suited before it to greet people, and, then,
>> they actually held up the show while we ran to jump
>> out of our suits and back into the theatre.
>>
>> Sardogns.
>>
>>
>> --- Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm surprised that Canadian furs have not sent some
>>>DVDs across the boarder.
>>>
>>>
>>>His Most Royal highass, Donkey
>>>
>>>On 1/6/07, RTRabbitNY at aol.com <RTRabbitNY at aol.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The real question is....will it ever get released
>>>
>>>at all?
>>>
>>>>I've been in touch with the producer and he says
>>>
>>>there are too many
>>>
>>>>liscensing issues (and the costs thereof)
>>>
>>>regarding many characters who
>>>
>>>>appeared in it, which so far have been thwarting
>>>
>>>the film getting even
>>>seen
>>>
>>>>below Canada (except for those of you attending
>>>
>>>FC?).
>>>
>>>>Heck, I was the first fursuiter interviewed for
>>>
>>>the movie, gave them lots
>>>of
>>>
>>>>my footage (including my tape from the Mascot Hall
>>>
>>>of Fame ceremonies) and
>>>
>>>>had the producer and director as guests on my TV
>>>
>>>show and I still haven't
>>>
>>>>even seen it yet....  :(
>>>>
>>>>Rapid T. Rabbit
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>In a message dated 1/6/2007 11:16:44 A.M. Eastern
>>>
>>>Standard Time,
>>>
>>>>eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com writes:
>>>>Does anyone know if the Mascot Moive is ever going
>>>
>>>to have a DVD
>>>release?  I
>>>
>>>>thought I had heard something about a DVD release,
>>>
>>>but it appears that the
>>>
>>>>website hasn't been updated in almost a year and a
>>>
>>>half.
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From ww2p51d at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 17 19:03:41 2007
From: ww2p51d at hotmail.com (Messerschmitt Spink)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 00:03:41 +0000
Subject: FL: Fun things to do in suit?
In-Reply-To: <537924.17124.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY105-F209343B55204BF6585535AEDAA0@phx.gbl>

I went sledding the other day in my fursuit.  I didn't wear the whole thing 
due to how cold it was, but I had a lot of fun and I only had one kinda bad 
crash.

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From bdbfox at outgun.com  Thu Jan 18 11:51:09 2007
From: bdbfox at outgun.com (Damian K)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:51:09 -0500
Subject: FL: Mascot Moive Follow-Up / Further Confusion Viewing
Message-ID: <20070118165109.23ACBCA0A4@ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com>



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From mrbunny at mr-bunny.com  Thu Jan 18 14:54:56 2007
From: mrbunny at mr-bunny.com (Amorpheous E. Bunny)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:54:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Mascot Moive Follow-Up / Further Confusion Viewing
In-Reply-To: <20070118165109.23ACBCA0A4@ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <20070118195456.22661.qmail@web51403.mail.yahoo.com>

will this movie be only viewed at the con?
Or will it be available for purchase there?

I cannot make it to the con
but if its available for purchase was wondering if I
could pay someone to get it for me.

From rtrabbitny at aol.com  Thu Jan 18 17:47:34 2007
From: rtrabbitny at aol.com (rtrabbitny at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:47:34 -0500
Subject: FL: Mascot Moive Follow-Up / Further Confusion Viewing
In-Reply-To: <20070118195456.22661.qmail@web51403.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8C90969C79E6F48-844-502@FWM-R07.sysops.aol.com>

It will not be available for purchase at FC or anywhere for that matter, especially in the USA for the forseeable future, all due to liscensing and legal clearance issues involving many of the mascots portrayed in the film.
 
I was one of the first fursuiters interviewed in the film when they came here to New York City and I still have not seen it yet.....
 
RTR
 
 
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will this movie be only viewed at the con?
Or will it be available for purchase there?

I cannot make it to the con
but if its available for purchase was wondering if I
could pay someone to get it for me.
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From Rollermark6 at aol.com  Fri Jan 19 21:44:42 2007
From: Rollermark6 at aol.com (Rollermark6 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 21:44:42 EST
Subject: FL: Seamless necks, footpaws, and stuff
Message-ID: <c41.de58463.32e2dc1a@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 1/13/2007 8:26:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com writes:

I found  the interlocking foam squares mentioned above.  While they may work 
for  paw pads, I question how well they may work for the entire bottom of the  
foot.  Has anyone tried that?



YUP on the bottom of my big Chester Cheetah sneakers.
 
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From sckrabei2 at hotmail.com  Sun Jan 21 23:53:19 2007
From: sckrabei2 at hotmail.com (luke sckrabei)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:53:19 +0000
Subject: FL: Trouble finding decent Navy blue fur 4 Panther Mascot!!!
In-Reply-To: <BAY102-F23B840EAA3A76F9F861F3FBBD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY102-F4116E0C997D9E1DE52B871FBAE0@phx.gbl>



As I'm in the process of building a panther for a local Footbal team, I have 
had no luck finding a dark navy Blue that's decent quality.

I'm in South Australia, and have tried our main importers without success. 
found a royal blue, but not what I had in mind.

does anyone know where, or have seen any recently.

Thanks Peoples,

Luke.

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From rufuswolf77 at hotmail.com  Mon Jan 22 02:19:44 2007
From: rufuswolf77 at hotmail.com (rufus wolf)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:19:44 -0500
Subject: FL: Trouble finding decent Navy blue fur 4 Panther Mascot!!!
In-Reply-To: <BAY102-F4116E0C997D9E1DE52B871FBAE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F789D200CCC11354BCA8AEBAAE0@phx.gbl>

You could try Im stuffed furs online! Ived used them before and the woman 
who runs the biz is awsome!!! If she doesnt have it,shell at least tell 
ya,and maybe even point ya in the right direction!! Well,anhoo,good luck!!
Leto Wolfie


>From: "luke sckrabei" <sckrabei2 at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: FL: Trouble finding decent Navy blue fur 4 Panther Mascot!!!
>Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:53:19 +0000
>
>
>
>As I'm in the process of building a panther for a local Footbal team, I 
>have
>had no luck finding a dark navy Blue that's decent quality.
>
>I'm in South Australia, and have tried our main importers without success.
>found a royal blue, but not what I had in mind.
>
>does anyone know where, or have seen any recently.
>
>Thanks Peoples,
>
>Luke.
>
>PS
>
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From Karen.Upfront at shaw.ca  Mon Jan 22 09:26:16 2007
From: Karen.Upfront at shaw.ca (Upfront Mascots)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:26:16 -0700
Subject: FL: Trouble finding decent Navy blue fur 4 Panther Mascot!!!
References: <BAY102-F4116E0C997D9E1DE52B871FBAE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <006101c73e31$46a449c0$6501a8c0@ownerafab910f5>

HI Luke
we use Monterey Fabrics. they offer bolt and by the cut.. The fur is great 
quality... and the people great to work with. I do find some colors are just 
not as good as others. the long and med pile are the best short is still 
good.  They have animal prints and all kinds. They are in Janesville WI and 
will ship anywhere. Good luck..
Karen.
Up Front Mascots
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From: "luke sckrabei" <sckrabei2 at hotmail.com>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:53 PM
Subject: FL: Trouble finding decent Navy blue fur 4 Panther Mascot!!!


>
>
> As I'm in the process of building a panther for a local Footbal team, I 
> have
> had no luck finding a dark navy Blue that's decent quality.
>
> I'm in South Australia, and have tried our main importers without success.
> found a royal blue, but not what I had in mind.
>
> does anyone know where, or have seen any recently.
>
> Thanks Peoples,
>
> Luke.
>
> PS
>
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From blue_heel at fsun.net  Fri Jan 26 22:09:50 2007
From: blue_heel at fsun.net (Doctor)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:09:50 -0600
Subject: FL: Horse Fursuit
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20070126210848.023b1f10@mail.fsun.net>

I have a horsey friend that is interested in getting a fursuit.  Who makes 
Horse type of fursuits?  You can respond off list so as not to clog up the 
list, or onlist, doesn't matter to me.  Thank you all, now back to your 
usual furriness stuff that you do..

Blue

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From noble_a_wolf at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 26 22:15:09 2007
From: noble_a_wolf at hotmail.com (noble wolf)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:15:09 -0500
Subject: FL: Horse Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20070126210848.023b1f10@mail.fsun.net>
Message-ID: <BAY110-F4F1AA9C2E6FF48ACD8763D6A10@phx.gbl>

www.nobleproductions.org


>From: Doctor <blue_heel at fsun.net>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org
>Subject: FL: Horse Fursuit
>Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:09:50 -0600
>
>I have a horsey friend that is interested in getting a fursuit.  Who makes
>Horse type of fursuits?  You can respond off list so as not to clog up the
>list, or onlist, doesn't matter to me.  Thank you all, now back to your
>usual furriness stuff that you do..
>
>Blue
>
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From shymatsilupine at aol.com  Wed Jan 24 14:38:47 2007
From: shymatsilupine at aol.com (shymatsilupine at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:38:47 -0500
Subject: FL: [FA: United! Aug 2007] Jan Newsletter
Message-ID: <8C90E0666941F81-151C-47D@mblk-d35.sysops.aol.com>

 FA: United! 
 http://www.faunited.org 
 
 Registration's open for FA: United! a new eastcoast furry convention taking place from August 10-12, 2007 at the Ramada Inn Newark International Airport hotel, A Wyndham Worldwide Hotel, in New Jersey! 
 
 We?ll have a full 3 days of events, workshops, games, entertainment and more! 
 
 The convention is being produced by the Northeast Anthropomorphic Association, a New Jersey Non-Profit organization; And Fur Affinity, one of the largest online furry art community websites. 
 
 * Online Registration is only $30! 
 * Hotel rooms start at just $79! 
 * Free Transportation from the Airport to the Hotel! 
 * Free Shuttles from the Airport to one of the Garden State's Largest Malls! 
 * Guests of Honor are Blotch (http://www.screwbald.com) and Roxikat (http://home.comcast.net/~johnmbarrett/) 
 
 Sponsors can schmooze up to our guests during our cocktail hour on Saturday evening, and Founding Members can additionally join them for a catered lunch on Sunday. 
 
 We've got a lot of great things in store! There's still spots open for running panels, anything from art instruction to gaming sessions to fursuit construction and spirituality! And of course, we can always use more staff and volunteers to help out. 
 
 Be sure to keep an eye on our forums, that's the place to go if you've got questions or suggestions for the staff. And visit our websites for the latest news and updates! 
 
 Hope to see you there! 
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From carlfox at foxvox.net  Thu Jan 25 23:19:59 2007
From: carlfox at foxvox.net (Karl F. Meyers)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 23:19:59 -0500
Subject: FL: [Megaplex 2007] Last Chance for Megaplex rooms!
Message-ID: <45B9816F.1090600@foxvox.net>

ATTENTION! Reservations close on *January 30, 2007*, so get your
rooms as soon as possible! Less that a *week* left to go to get
your room at the con rate!  We have no guarantee that we'll be able
to extend this deadline, so act quickly if you don't have your room yet!

This year, Megaplex 2007 will be held at the Wyndham Jacksonville
Riverwalk, in downtown Jacksonville, Florida.  The hotel is just off of
I-95, on the Southbank of the St. John's River.  Full directions can be
found on our web site (http://www.ppmp.info).

Reservations at the hotel can be made ON-LINE this year!  This method
requires a credit card to use. Here's how:

1) Surf to http://www.wyndham.com/hotels/JAXHT/main.wnt .

2) Click on the "Get Rates or Make A Reservation For This Hotel" link,
just under the hotel's address.

3) On the next page...
    a. Leave "Select A Rate Plan" (Section 1) as "Best Available &
Wyndham.com WEBRATES".
    b. Enter your arrival and departure dates (Section 2).  Remember,
Megaplex is March 2-4, 2007.
    c. Specify # of Rooms, and folks staying in them (Section 3).
    d. Skip past Section 4, unless you're a Wyndham ByRequest member and
want the credit.
    e. In Section 5, type the following in the "Group Code" blank :
0301886pa
    f. Click "Check Availability"

4) The next page shows the rooms available.  You should see "Pawpet Live
Experiences" as the Rate Plan, and $99/night as the rate for regular
rooms.  Click on the rate for the room of your choice to continue.

5) On the next page, double-check the selections in Sections 1-4, then
fill in Sections 5-8 and click "Confirm Reservation".

If you prefer to reserve by phone, call (904) 396-5100.  Be sure to
reference group reservation code 0301886pa to get Megaplex's room
rate.  If you have any questions on the hotel, feel free to contact
Randy Fox at mp-facility at pawpet.org.

NOTE : Double rooms are available!  If you contacted the hotel and were
told that only king rooms were left, please let Randy Fox
(mp-facility at pawpet.org) know.  If you made your registration for a king
room, but would like a double, he can help you change the reservation
accordingly.

...and if you haven't made your reservations yet, do so quickly!  :)




From rigeldc at verizon.net  Sat Jan 27 13:56:02 2007
From: rigeldc at verizon.net (Brian Harris)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:56:02 -0500
Subject: FL: Anthrocon 2007 Masquerade Information (1/07)
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20070127135459.01264348@incoming.verizon.net>

Anthrocon 2007 is coming, July 5-8!

Now accepting visual media including animation, music video, and recorded 
performances!

If you are a costumer or visual artist and would like to participate in the 
Masquerade, here is what you should do:

1. Visit Anthrocon 2007's homepage for convention details 
(http://www.anthrocon.org).
2. Review the latest draft of the Anthrocon 2007 Masquerade FAQ and rules 
on the Anthrocon webpage in the Events>Masquerade>Masquerade Rules section.
3. Contact me at masquerade.2007(at)anthrocon.org to confirm your 
participation or to get on the informational mailing list.

Once signed up, you will be added to an e-mail list which will receive 
information about the Masquerade up through contime, how to prepare for it, 
and how things will be organized.

If you have any questions about the Anthrocon 2007 Masquerade, you can also 
send them to masquerade.2007(at)anthrocon.org for a prompt reply.

Hope to hear from you!
  


From solion at comcast.net  Tue Jan 30 15:36:58 2007
From: solion at comcast.net (Lionel Vogt)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:36:58 -0500
Subject: FL: The big lion build
References: <7.0.1.0.0.20070124000009.04ec79e8@eol.ca>
Message-ID: <023d01c744ae$6388daa0$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>

Well we are moving right along in the build now for the stero vision /Ir 
vision full sized lion
mask, Now is the time to find out all my secrets as this mask comes together

http://www.lionofthesun.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album19

let me know what you think !

Lionel 



From marcwolf at anubis-systems.com  Tue Jan 30 16:22:11 2007
From: marcwolf at anubis-systems.com (David Boccabella)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 07:22:11 +1000
Subject: FL: The big lion build
In-Reply-To: <023d01c744ae$6388daa0$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIIEJHEDAA.marcwolf@anubis-systems.com>

Brilliant.  Just Brilliant.

A couple of questions thou.

Celluclay?? - have not heard of it.  Can you explain.

Also I assume that you have not put the outer eye shells in.

Many Thanks

Marcwolf

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> From: Lionel Vogt [mailto:solion at comcast.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 06:37
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>
>
> Well we are moving right along in the build now for the stero vision /Ir
> vision full sized lion
> mask, Now is the time to find out all my secrets as this mask
> comes together
>
> http://www.lionofthesun.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album19
>
> let me know what you think !
>
> Lionel
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From denmoncaus at gmail.com  Tue Jan 30 17:19:31 2007
From: denmoncaus at gmail.com (lex f)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:19:31 -0500
Subject: FL: The big lion build
In-Reply-To: <023d01c744ae$6388daa0$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>
References: <7.0.1.0.0.20070124000009.04ec79e8@eol.ca>
	<023d01c744ae$6388daa0$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>
Message-ID: <b187d80c0701301419x37a95c7coe66b1d9da06db607@mail.gmail.com>

All right you asked for what people think this is what I think If i had
money I Will ask for you to make me one -.- nice job.
On 1/30/07, Lionel Vogt <solion at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Well we are moving right along in the build now for the stero vision /Ir
> vision full sized lion
> mask, Now is the time to find out all my secrets as this mask comes
> together
>
> http://www.lionofthesun.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album19
>
> let me know what you think !
>
> Lionel
>
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From colifox at hotmail.com  Thu Feb  1 01:25:58 2007
From: colifox at hotmail.com (Colifox _)
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 06:25:58 +0000
Subject: FL: The big lion build
In-Reply-To: <023d01c744ae$6388daa0$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>
Message-ID: <BAY128-F32DF376BE07D2EC21D49BCB7A40@phx.gbl>

That really is an impressive series of pictures and how absolutely amazing 
is that looking!  Thanks for sharing, its great to get such a thorogh 
insite.

Colifox


>From: "Lionel Vogt" <solion at comcast.net>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
>Subject: FL: The big lion build
>Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:36:58 -0500
>
>Well we are moving right along in the build now for the stero vision /Ir
>vision full sized lion
>mask, Now is the time to find out all my secrets as this mask comes 
>together
>
>http://www.lionofthesun.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album19
>
>let me know what you think !
>
>Lionel
>
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From solion at comcast.net  Thu Feb  1 01:51:30 2007
From: solion at comcast.net (Lionel Vogt)
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 01:51:30 -0500
Subject: FL: The big lion build
References: <BAY128-F32DF376BE07D2EC21D49BCB7A40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <02b201c745cd$67c5ffb0$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>

Glad to help , new updates on the weekend
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From: "Colifox _" <colifox at hotmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 1:25 AM
Subject: Re: FL: The big lion build


> That really is an impressive series of pictures and how absolutely amazing
> is that looking!  Thanks for sharing, its great to get such a thorogh
> insite.
>
> Colifox
>
>
>>From: "Lionel Vogt" <solion at comcast.net>
>>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>>To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
>>Subject: FL: The big lion build
>>Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:36:58 -0500
>>
>>Well we are moving right along in the build now for the stero vision /Ir
>>vision full sized lion
>>mask, Now is the time to find out all my secrets as this mask comes
>>together
>>
>>http://www.lionofthesun.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album19
>>
>>let me know what you think !
>>
>>Lionel
>>
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From yappyfox at thefoxden.com  Fri Feb  2 10:46:53 2007
From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (Yappy Sly Fox)
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:46:53 -0500
Subject: FL: Kimber Fox
Message-ID: <20070202154653.GA89214@foxpup.forest.thefoxden.com>

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It is with sad news to learn that Kimber Fox passed away last night.  At least he is no longer in the pain he had been suffering the last few years, as 
his battle with cancer had not been very good.

To a fellow Floridian, and Fursuiter, you will be missed, seeing your presence in the walls of conventions, and other parties.

To his close friends and family, especially Blazer Racoon, be strong, and know he is in peace.  

I personally know I have met him at many outings, and regret I never took the time to get to know him..  Makes one think..  Try to get to know someone 
you see, but are afraid to approach to get to know better.

http://kimberfox.livejournal.com/14983.html


for those that did now know his fursuit: http://ppmp.info/mp05/MP5-PS/MP5-PS-Pages/Image94.html



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From chakawolf at hotmail.com  Fri Feb  2 11:40:03 2007
From: chakawolf at hotmail.com (Chaka Wolf)
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 10:40:03 -0600
Subject: FL: Kimber Fox
In-Reply-To: <20070202154653.GA89214@foxpup.forest.thefoxden.com>
Message-ID: <BAY134-F31236C7E89B8725E4C27F2BD9B0@phx.gbl>


The world is a sadder place.  Rest easy Kimberfox.

>From: Yappy Sly Fox <yappyfox at thefoxden.com>
>Reply-To: yappyfox at thefoxden.com, fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: flafurs at floridafurs.com, fursuit-list at fursuit.org, fps-list at pawpet.org
>Subject: FL: Kimber Fox
>Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:46:53 -0500
>
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>It is with sad news to learn that Kimber Fox passed away last night.  At 
>least he is no longer in the pain he had been suffering the last few years, 
>as
>his battle with cancer had not been very good.

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From auroaraedward at ywave.com  Fri Feb  2 23:11:17 2007
From: auroaraedward at ywave.com (Edward Eugene Smith)
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 20:11:17 -0800
Subject: FL: Kimber Fox
In-Reply-To: <BAY134-F31236C7E89B8725E4C27F2BD9B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY134-F31236C7E89B8725E4C27F2BD9B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <987B2940-B33C-11DB-8242-000A95D2D836@ywave.com>

Though I did not know Kimberfox, my deepest blessings
for his new journey and my sincere condolences for  his
family.
Peace and Harmony,
Edward
Lion of Yelm


On Feb 2, 2007, at 8:40 AM, Chaka Wolf wrote:

>
> The world is a sadder place.  Rest easy Kimberfox.
>
>> From: Yappy Sly Fox <yappyfox at thefoxden.com>
>> Reply-To: yappyfox at thefoxden.com, fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>> To: flafurs at floridafurs.com, fursuit-list at fursuit.org,  
>> fps-list at pawpet.org
>> Subject: FL: Kimber Fox
>> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:46:53 -0500
>>
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>> It is with sad news to learn that Kimber Fox passed away last night.   
>> At
>> least he is no longer in the pain he had been suffering the last few  
>> years,
>> as
>> his battle with cancer had not been very good.
>
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From antimon at earthlink.net  Sat Feb  3 11:18:54 2007
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 11:18:54 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: FL: Kimber Fox
Message-ID: <10523503.1170519534501.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

He will be greatly missed by us all.  I wish he had more time in his new freedom from work, he was taken much too soon.  But now he can have a pain free existance, and perhaps, he is now a true anthro, the inner fox he always tried to portray.  May his fursuit stay with us and his chaacter live on

From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sat Feb  3 14:42:42 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 11:42:42 -0800
Subject: FL: Kimber Fox
In-Reply-To: <10523503.1170519534501.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <10523503.1170519534501.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0702031142k7476a7edu65cabc5481d96e59@mail.gmail.com>

I like that idea. Is there a furry convection or individual that would be
willing to store and display fursuits of furrys that have passed on? Heck
there is a museum for everything else. Why not one for fursuits. The museum
could also have art and story's from those furrys that are not fursuiters
but where still people that furthered furry.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 2/3/07, Antimon <antimon at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> He will be greatly missed by us all.  I wish he had more time in his new
> freedom from work, he was taken much too soon.  But now he can have a pain
> free existance, and perhaps, he is now a true anthro, the inner fox he
> always tried to portray.  May his fursuit stay with us and his chaacter live
> on
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From tim1 at timduru.org  Sat Feb  3 15:09:25 2007
From: tim1 at timduru.org (tim1 at timduru.org)
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 20:09:25 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: FL: Kimber Fox
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0702031142k7476a7edu65cabc5481d96e59@mail.gmail.com>
References: <10523503.1170519534501.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<d23d76ca0702031142k7476a7edu65cabc5481d96e59@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070203200721.G3802@j3.timduru.org>

Would someone be willing to write a bio and description for his character
? And send me pictures of his fursuit ?
I could then include them in both the fursuit archive and the fursuit
database.
So that he stays in our memories forever.
Timduru


On Sat, 3 Feb 2007, Donkey wrote:

> I like that idea. Is there a furry convection or individual that would be
> willing to store and display fursuits of furrys that have passed on? Heck
> there is a museum for everything else. Why not one for fursuits. The museum
> could also have art and story's from those furrys that are not fursuiters
> but where still people that furthered furry.
>
> His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
>
> On 2/3/07, Antimon <antimon at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > He will be greatly missed by us all.  I wish he had more time in his new
> > freedom from work, he was taken much too soon.  But now he can have a pain
> > free existance, and perhaps, he is now a true anthro, the inner fox he
> > always tried to portray.  May his fursuit stay with us and his chaacter live
> > on
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From marcwolf at anubis-systems.com  Sat Feb  3 17:35:27 2007
From: marcwolf at anubis-systems.com (David Boccabella)
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 08:35:27 +1000
Subject: FL: Fursuit Memorium
In-Reply-To: <20070203200721.G3802@j3.timduru.org>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIEEMFEDAA.marcwolf@anubis-systems.com>


Hi Folks.

Sadly I never knew or spoke with Kimberfox.

However a wise man once said that our legacy is build on the lives we have
touched on our mortal journey.
Whilst we tread this Earth we can do good or bad.
Give freely or take.
Leave joy or unhappiness.
That is our choice.


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sat Jan  6 11:17:01 2007
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 16:17:01 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.3.1170542254.22073.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>

path he chose in life.  And the fursuiting community and his family are his
legacy. May that live on.

Timduru's idea of a Fursuit Memorium for those who have finally shed the
fake fur to become their true form is a wonderful idea. And it would be a
tribute to the fursuiting community in general.

Yake care all

Marcwolf
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From yappyfox at thefoxden.com  Tue Feb  6 19:49:42 2007
From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (yappyfox at thefoxden.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:49:42 -0500
Subject: FL: Big Sunglasses
Message-ID: <14E677EA-89A4-4279-BB9F-91819CDCAEF6@thefoxden.com>

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I'm looking for a supplier..  Big goofy Sunglasses.  I had found a  
pair of big blue star shaped sunglasses at MFF, and I broke them..   
I'm now looking to replace them, and perhaps get other shapes...   
Pink Hearts, Yellow Moons, Green Clovers, Blue Diamonds and Purple  
Horse Shoes :>

anyone know where to find em?


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From colifox at hotmail.com  Tue Feb  6 20:04:07 2007
From: colifox at hotmail.com (Colifox _)
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 01:04:07 +0000
Subject: FL: Big Sunglasses
In-Reply-To: <14E677EA-89A4-4279-BB9F-91819CDCAEF6@thefoxden.com>
Message-ID: <BAY128-F28589BB0D05B7C496D6C17B79E0@phx.gbl>

Only thign I seemed to find was this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/MEGA-HUGE-SUNGLASSES-FUN-DISGUISE-COSTUME-COOL-NEW_W0QQitemZ290077936533QQcmdZViewItem

Whilst this is only one item, she appears to have a store online so might be 
worth while checking out.

also:

http://www.simplyfancydress.co.uk/product_info.php/cPath/105/products_id/6155

http://www.costumecraze.com/CLWN63.html

http://www.scavengeinc.com/jumbo-sunglasses-p-3689.html

Found doing a search for 'clown sunglasses' or 'jumbo sunglasses' on google 
gave some good results.

Hope this helps yappy :)



>
>I'm looking for a supplier..  Big goofy Sunglasses.  I had found a
>pair of big blue star shaped sunglasses at MFF, and I broke them..
>I'm now looking to replace them, and perhaps get other shapes...
>Pink Hearts, Yellow Moons, Green Clovers, Blue Diamonds and Purple
>Horse Shoes :>
>
>anyone know where to find em?
>

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From superhedgie at googlemail.com  Tue Feb  6 20:41:44 2007
From: superhedgie at googlemail.com (Super BH)
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 01:41:44 -0000
Subject: FL: Big Sunglasses
References: <14E677EA-89A4-4279-BB9F-91819CDCAEF6@thefoxden.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c74a59$1fe1b960$0c00000a@NoobSaibot>

Any good novelty or joke shop should sell them. There is one in my home town
that would sell them. If need be, I can purchase a pair and ship them to
you.

Hedgie

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To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:49 AM
Subject: FL: Big Sunglasses


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> I'm looking for a supplier..  Big goofy Sunglasses.  I had found a
> pair of big blue star shaped sunglasses at MFF, and I broke them..
> I'm now looking to replace them, and perhaps get other shapes...
> Pink Hearts, Yellow Moons, Green Clovers, Blue Diamonds and Purple
> Horse Shoes :>
>
> anyone know where to find em?
>
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From bang at furry.org.au  Tue Feb  6 20:22:30 2007
From: bang at furry.org.au (bang)
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 17:22:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Big Sunglasses
In-Reply-To: <14E677EA-89A4-4279-BB9F-91819CDCAEF6@thefoxden.com>
References: <14E677EA-89A4-4279-BB9F-91819CDCAEF6@thefoxden.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0702061722070.13131@blue.keystealth.org>

> I'm looking for a supplier..  Big goofy Sunglasses.  I had found a
> pair of big blue star shaped sunglasses at MFF, and I broke them..
> I'm now looking to replace them, and perhaps get other shapes...
> Pink Hearts, Yellow Moons, Green Clovers, Blue Diamonds and Purple
> Horse Shoes :>

You making an Elton John suit? :)

bang.

From yippeecoyote at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  6 23:15:28 2007
From: yippeecoyote at yahoo.com (Jimmy Chin)
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 20:15:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Big Sunglasses
In-Reply-To: <14E677EA-89A4-4279-BB9F-91819CDCAEF6@thefoxden.com>
Message-ID: <821454.55325.qm@web43104.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

These kinda look like the ones you had, only gold & silver frames:
http://www.shadesoffun.com/Nov-CP/Jumbo_Star_Sunglasses.html

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> I'm looking for a supplier..  Big goofy Sunglasses.  I had found a  
> pair of big blue star shaped sunglasses at MFF, and I broke them..   
> I'm now looking to replace them, and perhaps get other shapes...   
> Pink Hearts, Yellow Moons, Green Clovers, Blue Diamonds and Purple  
> Horse Shoes :>
> 
> anyone know where to find em?
> 
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From jtbeckett at hotmail.com  Tue Feb  6 23:28:07 2007
From: jtbeckett at hotmail.com (J.T. Beckett)
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:28:07 -0900
Subject: FL: Big Sunglasses
In-Reply-To: <14E677EA-89A4-4279-BB9F-91819CDCAEF6@thefoxden.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F157814CD6A449F12423620BB9E0@phx.gbl>

Walmart's toy section usually has them for 88 cents a pair in the aisle with 
the bubbles and cheapo stuff like that.  They have hearts, stars, clovers... 
i can't remember what else...  I've never seen horseshoes, though.

J.T.

>From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: FL: Big Sunglasses
>Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:49:42 -0500
>
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>
>I'm looking for a supplier..  Big goofy Sunglasses.  I had found a
>pair of big blue star shaped sunglasses at MFF, and I broke them..
>I'm now looking to replace them, and perhaps get other shapes...
>Pink Hearts, Yellow Moons, Green Clovers, Blue Diamonds and Purple
>Horse Shoes :>
>
>anyone know where to find em?
>
>
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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sat Jan  6 11:17:01 2007
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 16:17:01 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.4.1170822514.22073.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>

Academy Awards? 
http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline1


From grey_llama at yahoo.com  Wed Feb  7 12:15:44 2007
From: grey_llama at yahoo.com (Sean Rook)
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:15:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Two Upcoming Fursuiting Events
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1170867602.28921.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <260373.29497.qm@web59203.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

There are two upcoming fursuiting events in the New
York and Connecticut areas - and we very much need
more fursuiters.

1.  Penguin Plunge, a Special Olympics charity
fundraiser that takes place in Middletown, Connecticut
- right next to where the first FurFright convention
was held.  Interact with everyone attending the event,
including making some autistic children smile.  Takes
place on Saturday, March 3rd from about 1030am to
1230pm.  More info can be found here:
http://community.livejournal.com/fursuit_gigs/27521.html
Respond to the post or email me personally if
interested.

2. Kids Expo, parade / meet and greet at Poughkeepsie,
NY.  The main event is the parade on Sunday April
15th, afterwards we interact with the crowds in the
Civic Center.  If interested, can also participate in
meet and greet on saturday the 14th.  Meetup for
parade begins at 11am.  Meet and greet for both days
begins around noon until 4 or 5pm.
More info can be found here:
http://freakylynx.livejournal.com/373813.html


This is the second year fursuiters have participated
at both events, we were very well received the first
year for both events and I'd like to make sure that
continues.

-Freaky Lynx


 
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From Lionel-Lion at webtv.net  Thu Feb  8 08:23:01 2007
From: Lionel-Lion at webtv.net (Lionel-Lion at webtv.net)
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 08:23:01 -0500
Subject: FL: Large sunglasses and props
In-Reply-To: fursuit-list-request@lists.fursuit.org's message of Wed, 07
	Feb 2007 12:00:02 -0500
Message-ID: <12005-45CB2435-561@storefull-3335.bay.webtv.net>

Try www.clownsupplies.com or any local clown supply place. Also for
great foam props try searching for Peachie Keene foam props. He can make
anything out of foam, and is fairly reasonable!
Lionel Lion

R-R-R-R-Roar....Lionel 


From yappyfox at thefoxden.com  Thu Feb  8 08:46:15 2007
From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (Yappy Sly Fox)
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 08:46:15 -0500
Subject: FL: Big Sunglasses
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F157814CD6A449F12423620BB9E0@phx.gbl>
References: <14E677EA-89A4-4279-BB9F-91819CDCAEF6@thefoxden.com>
	<BAY112-F157814CD6A449F12423620BB9E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20070208134615.GA13640@foxpup.forest.thefoxden.com>

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PERFECT!  the exact ones I wanted were in Walmrt..  I bought all kinds and extras :>  Thank you for the help!


they had Heart, shamrocks, $-$, and stars..   Almost a full bowl of Lucky Charms.  seems the glasses have made sniffer, so got to keep up with that :>



On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 07:28:07PM -0900, J.T. Beckett wrote:
> Walmart's toy section usually has them for 88 cents a pair in the aisle 
> with the bubbles and cheapo stuff like that.  They have hearts, stars, 
> clovers... i can't remember what else...  I've never seen horseshoes, 
> though.
> 
> J.T.
> 
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From dlely at juno.com  Fri Feb  9 04:28:08 2007
From: dlely at juno.com (David L. Ely)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 01:28:08 -0800
Subject: FL: Fursuiting Event: Olvera Street Mardi Gras Celebration
Message-ID: <20070209.012830.-1047149.9.dlely@juno.com>

Fursuiters and Friends:

Mardi Gras or Fat Tuesday is coming up quickly on the 20th of this month
and once again the merchants of Olvera Street are inviting fursuiters to
come on out to help celebrate.  This public event will be held at El
Pueblo de Los Angeles Historical Monument, home of the world famous
Olvera Street, the birthplace of the City of Los Angeles, in Downtown Los
Angeles.

This year the celebration begins at 8:30 AM with children?s activities
and various street talent including us crazy fursuiters!  For the most
part, regular tourists, business folks from downtown, and bussed in
school children will be visiting and participating.  This year the
children?s activities will wrap up around 1:00 PM and unfortunately there
will be no afternoon or evening activities as in previous years.

We will be roaming around meeting and greeting the children, families,
tourists, and merchants plus participating in the parade around 12:00
noon. 
You can arrive/leave whenever you would like and if you're fursuiting
you're welcome to suit up as little or as much as you want - no pressures
or requirements!  As in the past escorts are very much welcomed to help
us fursuiters.

If you are interested in participating please notify me privately
off-list at dlely at juno.com.

For more information about, directions to, and maps of Olvera Street
check out: http://www.olvera-street.com/  and 
http://www.cityofla.org/ELP/.

David L. Ely - AKA: Scruff E. Coyote - dlely at juno.com
"How many hearts with warm blood in them are beating
under the cover of the woods . . . .   A multitude of
animal people, intimately related to us . . . are busy
about their own affairs as we are about ours." - John Muir

From abaddoggy at sbcglobal.net  Fri Feb  9 19:45:32 2007
From: abaddoggy at sbcglobal.net (Lucky)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 18:45:32 -0600
Subject: FL: DC power questions
References: <20070209.012830.-1047149.9.dlely@juno.com>
Message-ID: <000401c74cac$c597e320$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>

Howdy all.

Ok, I am working on a new project and am in need of some help.

1.  Can anyone suggest a good, quick disconnect male and female plug to use 
to hook up a 9.6v OR a 12v dc rechargeable battery to a fan with a switch? 
Battery size will be determined once I see how each blows and at what rate 
and how long each lasts.  What I have are 2 computer fans, one standard type 
and one side-blow that Ill be attaching to my suit in 2 different places. 
Each fan will have its own battery and on/off switch.  These will both be 
attached to a single 1/8th inch thick piece of plastic mesh, with 2 tails 
running off, one to each fan.  This should provide a suitable base to attach 
them to and to keep things from moving around.  So Im in need of an easy, 
secure way to connect / disconnect the power sources from each fan.  Ive 
seen microphone or audio cable quick connects, the metal tubes with 3 prongs 
inside and a curly tail headed to each source.  Any other ideas?  Radio 
Shack was absolutely no help whatsoever.  They have various switches but 
their staff had no idea when I asked them questions.

2.  What gauge wiring should I have going from either the 9.6v or 12v DV 
batteries to the switch and then to the plug?  Currently it looks to be 20 
gauge from the batteries.  It came preassembled with this wiring, but I just 
want to be sure before I put a load on it.

As for what Im making, you'll just have to wait for AC to find out.  But 
trust me in that, when you see it, you will not believe it.  :D

Lucky 


From minnieme4rl at aol.com  Fri Feb  9 20:05:44 2007
From: minnieme4rl at aol.com (minnieme4rl at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:05:44 -0500
Subject: FL: Easter RAGGS gig in Washington D.C.
Message-ID: <8C91AC6B9CB499F-1460-678D@mblk-d46.sysops.aol.com>

RAGGS (www.raggs.com) is looking for one performer in the D.C. area to be Raggs.  This is a meet and greet, not a show like most gigs, because they have new suits this year and the only suit that will be ready in time for this gig is Raggs.  This will be the White House Easter Egg Roll.  If you are interested, or just want more information, contact Jason Priest at jpriest at raggs.com.
 
FYI, I have asked Jason about CA gigs this year, and am waiting to hear back from him.
 
Minnie (a.k.a. Razzles)
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From geary at bright.net  Fri Feb  9 20:20:09 2007
From: geary at bright.net (Aerofox)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 20:20:09 -0500
Subject: FL: DC power questions
In-Reply-To: <000401c74cac$c597e320$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>
References: <20070209.012830.-1047149.9.dlely@juno.com>
	<000401c74cac$c597e320$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>
Message-ID: <D4509A71-5A78-4FBB-A1AC-8F5492111A86@bright.net>

Probably the best bet would be Radio Shack Cat # 270-026 quick  
disconnect  -OR-  a 2 pin "Molex" type connector. Radio Shack cat #  
274-222.

They both show up on Radio Shaft's website, so they may be available  
in the store.

Hope this helps
-Aerofox

On Feb 9, 2007, at 7:45 PM, Lucky wrote:

> Howdy all.
>
> Ok, I am working on a new project and am in need of some help.
>
> 1.  Can anyone suggest a good, quick disconnect male and female  
> plug to use
> to hook up a 9.6v OR a 12v dc rechargeable battery to a fan with a  
> switch?
> Battery size will be determined once I see how each blows and at  
> what rate
> and how long each lasts.  What I have are 2 computer fans, one  
> standard type
> and one side-blow that Ill be attaching to my suit in 2 different  
> places.
> Each fan will have its own battery and on/off switch.  These will  
> both be
> attached to a single 1/8th inch thick piece of plastic mesh, with 2  
> tails
> running off, one to each fan.  This should provide a suitable base  
> to attach
> them to and to keep things from moving around.  So Im in need of an  
> easy,
> secure way to connect / disconnect the power sources from each  
> fan.  Ive
> seen microphone or audio cable quick connects, the metal tubes with  
> 3 prongs
> inside and a curly tail headed to each source.  Any other ideas?   
> Radio
> Shack was absolutely no help whatsoever.  They have various  
> switches but
> their staff had no idea when I asked them questions.
>
> 2.  What gauge wiring should I have going from either the 9.6v or  
> 12v DV
> batteries to the switch and then to the plug?  Currently it looks  
> to be 20
> gauge from the batteries.  It came preassembled with this wiring,  
> but I just
> want to be sure before I put a load on it.
>
> As for what Im making, you'll just have to wait for AC to find  
> out.  But
> trust me in that, when you see it, you will not believe it.  :D
>
> Lucky
>
> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
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> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/ 
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From geary at bright.net  Fri Feb  9 20:24:18 2007
From: geary at bright.net (Aerofox)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 20:24:18 -0500
Subject: FL: DC power questions
In-Reply-To: <D4509A71-5A78-4FBB-A1AC-8F5492111A86@bright.net>
References: <20070209.012830.-1047149.9.dlely@juno.com>
	<000401c74cac$c597e320$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>
	<D4509A71-5A78-4FBB-A1AC-8F5492111A86@bright.net>
Message-ID: <237F6FCB-059D-49AD-B87A-A688918296BF@bright.net>

Oh... 20 gauge wire would be PLENTY for a pair of fans. 22 or 24  
would be find too.
Those things don't pull much current.

-Aerofox
On Feb 9, 2007, at 8:20 PM, Aerofox wrote:

> Probably the best bet would be Radio Shack Cat # 270-026 quick
> disconnect  -OR-  a 2 pin "Molex" type connector. Radio Shack cat #
> 274-222.
>
> They both show up on Radio Shaft's website, so they may be available
> in the store.
>
> Hope this helps
> -Aerofox
>
> On Feb 9, 2007, at 7:45 PM, Lucky wrote:
>
>> Howdy all.
>>
>> Ok, I am working on a new project and am in need of some help.
>>
>> 1.  Can anyone suggest a good, quick disconnect male and female
>> plug to use
>> to hook up a 9.6v OR a 12v dc rechargeable battery to a fan with a
>> switch?
>> Battery size will be determined once I see how each blows and at
>> what rate
>> and how long each lasts.  What I have are 2 computer fans, one
>> standard type
>> and one side-blow that Ill be attaching to my suit in 2 different
>> places.
>> Each fan will have its own battery and on/off switch.  These will
>> both be
>> attached to a single 1/8th inch thick piece of plastic mesh, with 2
>> tails
>> running off, one to each fan.  This should provide a suitable base
>> to attach
>> them to and to keep things from moving around.  So Im in need of an
>> easy,
>> secure way to connect / disconnect the power sources from each
>> fan.  Ive
>> seen microphone or audio cable quick connects, the metal tubes with
>> 3 prongs
>> inside and a curly tail headed to each source.  Any other ideas?
>> Radio
>> Shack was absolutely no help whatsoever.  They have various
>> switches but
>> their staff had no idea when I asked them questions.
>>
>> 2.  What gauge wiring should I have going from either the 9.6v or
>> 12v DV
>> batteries to the switch and then to the plug?  Currently it looks
>> to be 20
>> gauge from the batteries.  It came preassembled with this wiring,
>> but I just
>> want to be sure before I put a load on it.
>>
>> As for what Im making, you'll just have to wait for AC to find
>> out.  But
>> trust me in that, when you see it, you will not believe it.  :D
>>
>> Lucky
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> _______________________________________________
>> Fursuit Mail list.
>> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/
>> listinfo/fursuit-list
>
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From anthrobunny at gmail.com  Fri Feb  9 20:25:24 2007
From: anthrobunny at gmail.com (Blackberry)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 17:25:24 -0800
Subject: FL: DC power questions
In-Reply-To: <000401c74cac$c597e320$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>
References: <20070209.012830.-1047149.9.dlely@juno.com>
	<000401c74cac$c597e320$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>
Message-ID: <982832d90702091725u4d2e4f3fn146161f8cf57762@mail.gmail.com>

I use two battery holders that each hold 4xAA batteries.  They have
standard 9V-style terminals on top of the holders.  So I just wire up
two 9V battery connectors and hook up the battery holders to them.  I
also use a switch, though.

-- 
"I guess I like board games more than most people. And by that I mean
I like playing board games more than most people do, and I like board
games more than I like most people." - Strong Sad, homestarrunner.com

From tjcoyote at pobox.com  Fri Feb  9 20:37:17 2007
From: tjcoyote at pobox.com (TJCoyote)
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:37:17 -0500
Subject: FL: DC power questions
In-Reply-To: <D4509A71-5A78-4FBB-A1AC-8F5492111A86@bright.net>
References: <20070209.012830.-1047149.9.dlely@juno.com>
	<000401c74cac$c597e320$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>
	<D4509A71-5A78-4FBB-A1AC-8F5492111A86@bright.net>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20070209203333.01f47ec0@pop.earthlink.net>

Another good connector is the type 9.6v remote-control cars 
use.  RadioShack # 23-445.  You can get 9.6v rechargeable battery packs 
with this connector already attached.  Just plug it in and you're done.  A 
major advantage of this connector is that all Radio Shacks sell the R/C 
batteries with that connector, as well as hobby shops and some toy stores, 
so you can get replacements no matter where you are.

If you go this route, be certain to include a fuse in your setup.  Shorted 
battery packs are really nasty!

-- TJCoyote

At 08:20 PM 2/9/2007, you wrote:
>Probably the best bet would be Radio Shack Cat # 270-026 quick
>disconnect  -OR-  a 2 pin "Molex" type connector. Radio Shack cat #
>274-222.
>
>They both show up on Radio Shaft's website, so they may be available
>in the store.
>
>Hope this helps
>-Aerofox
>
>On Feb 9, 2007, at 7:45 PM, Lucky wrote:
>
> > Howdy all.
> >
> > Ok, I am working on a new project and am in need of some help.
> >
> > 1.  Can anyone suggest a good, quick disconnect male and female
> > plug to use
> > to hook up a 9.6v OR a 12v dc rechargeable battery to a fan with a
> > switch?


From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Fri Feb  9 20:48:52 2007
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 20:48:52 -0500
Subject: FL: DC power questions
In-Reply-To: <982832d90702091725u4d2e4f3fn146161f8cf57762@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20070209.012830.-1047149.9.dlely@juno.com>
	<000401c74cac$c597e320$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>
	<982832d90702091725u4d2e4f3fn146161f8cf57762@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <577261b40702091748l3428527ejdaf5d544836a89d6@mail.gmail.com>

On 2/9/07, Blackberry <anthrobunny at gmail.com> wrote:
> I use two battery holders that each hold 4xAA batteries.  They have
> standard 9V-style terminals on top of the holders.  So I just wire up
> two 9V battery connectors and hook up the battery holders to them.  I
> also use a switch, though.

Yeah, that's what I have in mine too, and I run two smallish computer
fans, though I don't have a switch, i'ts a very convenient way to wire
it up, I think, the way you did it, Blackberry.

This pic shows what I used for powering my fans.
http://www.foxwolfart.furtopia.org/Foxwolf%20comes%20to%20life/Head%20Construction/head%20const%2028.JPG

This link shows how I attached the fans in the suit, on the back of
the helmet.  http://www.foxwolfart.furtopia.org/Foxwolf%20comes%20to%20life/Head%20Construction/head%20const%2043.JPG

Hope that helps.

-Foxwolf 9-Tails

From abaddoggy at sbcglobal.net  Fri Feb  9 21:03:03 2007
From: abaddoggy at sbcglobal.net (Lucky)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 20:03:03 -0600
Subject: FL: DC power questions
References: <20070209.012830.-1047149.9.dlely@juno.com><000401c74cac$c597e320$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv><D4509A71-5A78-4FBB-A1AC-8F5492111A86@bright.net>
	<6.1.2.0.2.20070209203333.01f47ec0@pop.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <003801c74cb7$99bb65f0$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>

Yeah I had considered getting the rc packs, but the company i purchased my 
battery packs from gave me a really great deal on 2 packs for less than the 
price of one, when they heard what I was making with them.  Surprisingly, 
each battery ended up being roughly the same price as an 8 pack of regular 
alkaline batteries, only in NiMH.  I got 2 sets of 2 batteries.  One set is 
9.6v NiMH but without a plug attached, wires were end capped. The other set 
is 12v NiMH, also with the ends capped.

Also, this way, at the end of the night, I can just plug them in to the wall 
and they'll be fully charged by morning.

Thanks for the ideas!
Lucky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "TJCoyote" <tjcoyote at pobox.com>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: FL: DC power questions


> Another good connector is the type 9.6v remote-control cars
> use.  RadioShack # 23-445.  You can get 9.6v rechargeable battery packs
> with this connector already attached.  Just plug it in and you're done.  A
> major advantage of this connector is that all Radio Shacks sell the R/C
> batteries with that connector, as well as hobby shops and some toy stores,
> so you can get replacements no matter where you are.
>
> If you go this route, be certain to include a fuse in your setup.  Shorted
> battery packs are really nasty!
>
> -- TJCoyote
>
> At 08:20 PM 2/9/2007, you wrote:
>>Probably the best bet would be Radio Shack Cat # 270-026 quick
>>disconnect  -OR-  a 2 pin "Molex" type connector. Radio Shack cat #
>>274-222.
>>
>>They both show up on Radio Shaft's website, so they may be available
>>in the store.
>>
>>Hope this helps
>>-Aerofox


From geary at bright.net  Fri Feb  9 21:14:43 2007
From: geary at bright.net (Aerofox)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 21:14:43 -0500
Subject: FL: DC power questions
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20070209203333.01f47ec0@pop.earthlink.net>
References: <20070209.012830.-1047149.9.dlely@juno.com>
	<000401c74cac$c597e320$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>
	<D4509A71-5A78-4FBB-A1AC-8F5492111A86@bright.net>
	<6.1.2.0.2.20070209203333.01f47ec0@pop.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <DF549C7A-8C3E-42E2-9E55-9AE2311ACC80@bright.net>

Yeah, this is a better idea! disregard my comments :P

Thanks TJ!
-Aerofox

On Feb 9, 2007, at 8:37 PM, TJCoyote wrote:

> Another good connector is the type 9.6v remote-control cars
> use.  RadioShack # 23-445.  You can get 9.6v rechargeable battery  
> packs
> with this connector already attached.  Just plug it in and you're  
> done.  A
> major advantage of this connector is that all Radio Shacks sell the  
> R/C
> batteries with that connector, as well as hobby shops and some toy  
> stores,
> so you can get replacements no matter where you are.
>
> If you go this route, be certain to include a fuse in your setup.   
> Shorted
> battery packs are really nasty!
>
> -- TJCoyote

From marcwolf at anubis-systems.com  Sat Feb 10 00:44:07 2007
From: marcwolf at anubis-systems.com (David Boccabella)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 15:44:07 +1000
Subject: FL: DC power questions
In-Reply-To: <DF549C7A-8C3E-42E2-9E55-9AE2311ACC80@bright.net>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIOEAIEEAA.marcwolf@anubis-systems.com>

Hi.
I used to use the 9v style battery pack plues, and also used for a while the
2 pin molex style plugs. I finally settles on these after a lot of trial and
error.

Nowadays I use the R/C style of plugs.
http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/45cd5b53049e5cc2273fc0a87f9c06f
c/Product/View/P2513


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sat Jan  6 11:17:01 2007
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 16:17:01 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.5.1171086163.22073.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>

of the suit. And that creates a very hostile environment for electronics.
When you sweat you release salts and ureic (sic) acids.  The heaver duty
R/C plucs might corrode a little but will last in the long run. Plus the
wires on them are also heavy duty and can take the stress. No problems with
the curren rating here either - you can run about 10 amps through these.

Now - With the two pin molex - it is possible to reverse the connections.
Done that once and destroyed my eye blinking circuit.

With the 9V connectors - I have NEVER found one that was robust enought.
After a short time the leads would break and  the fan is an essential part
of the suit.

 Hope this helps.

Marcwolf



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aerofox [mailto:geary at bright.net]
> Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2007 12:15
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: DC power questions
>
>
> Yeah, this is a better idea! disregard my comments :P
>
> Thanks TJ!
> -Aerofox
>
> On Feb 9, 2007, at 8:37 PM, TJCoyote wrote:
>
> > Another good connector is the type 9.6v remote-control cars
> > use.  RadioShack # 23-445.  You can get 9.6v rechargeable battery
> > packs
> > with this connector already attached.  Just plug it in and you're
> > done.  A
> > major advantage of this connector is that all Radio Shacks sell the
> > R/C
> > batteries with that connector, as well as hobby shops and some toy
> > stores,
> > so you can get replacements no matter where you are.
> >
> > If you go this route, be certain to include a fuse in your setup.
> > Shorted
> > battery packs are really nasty!
> >
> > -- TJCoyote
> _______________________________________________
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From anthrobunny at gmail.com  Sat Feb 10 01:32:25 2007
From: anthrobunny at gmail.com (Blackberry)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 22:32:25 -0800
Subject: FL: DC power questions
In-Reply-To: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIOEAIEEAA.marcwolf@anubis-systems.com>
References: <DF549C7A-8C3E-42E2-9E55-9AE2311ACC80@bright.net>
	<OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIOEAIEEAA.marcwolf@anubis-systems.com>
Message-ID: <982832d90702092232w254c6b7h59e93c820a70ef8d@mail.gmail.com>

On 2/9/07, David Boccabella <marcwolf at anubis-systems.com> wrote:
>
> With the 9V connectors - I have NEVER found one that was robust enought.
> After a short time the leads would break and  the fan is an essential part
> of the suit.

I've had my suits for a lot longer than a short time now.  I've had no
failure of the 9V connectors.  I don't see why they would fail unless
you let them hang loose and hang the battery weight on them or
something.  They shouldn't be expected to fail any more often than any
other small gauge wire.

The great thing about 12V worth of AAs is that, with two 60mm case
fans, I get about 16 hours of continuous run time, plenty for any
convention.

-- 
"I guess I like board games more than most people. And by that I mean
I like playing board games more than most people do, and I like board
games more than I like most people." - Strong Sad, homestarrunner.com

From furrycouple at hotmail.com  Sat Feb 10 12:18:52 2007
From: furrycouple at hotmail.com (Johara Saluki)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:18:52 -0700
Subject: FL: Fursuiting Event: Olvera Street Mardi Gras Celebration
In-Reply-To: <20070209.012830.-1047149.9.dlely@juno.com>
Message-ID: <BAY109-F13AA15D65F5CE0AD1C0961A5930@phx.gbl>

Hello all..allow me to introduce myself. I'm Johara and my fursona is a 
female Saluki (dog), no hybrid. I have been lurking since I joined your 
group, but have keeping tabs on the events posted. I live in Alberta, Canada 
and sadly, we don't have nearly the number of furry events and cons that 
americans do.....which leaves us travelling a lot. Fursuiting at Mardi Gras 
sounds like a blast!! I'm hoping to attend AC, Dragoncon or Conifur as I 
missed FC *whines*. Me and a fellow fur here in Calgary are attempting to 
set up our second con which piggybacks Conversion (Calgary Science Fiction 
and Fantasy Society). In addition, we will be incorporating the furry 
olympics into this event. Conversion is usually held around September. I 
will keep this list updated.
I'm currently working on my second fursuit.....the first can be seen at 
www.joharasaluki.deviantart.com in the scraps section. The second in still 
in pieces. Hope I get the opportunity to meet you all in the near future. 
Now, I must get back to work!
Jo


>From: "David L. Ely" <dlely at juno.com>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org
>Subject: FL: Fursuiting Event: Olvera Street Mardi Gras Celebration
>Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 01:28:08 -0800
>
>Fursuiters and Friends:
>
>Mardi Gras or Fat Tuesday is coming up quickly on the 20th of this month
>and once again the merchants of Olvera Street are inviting fursuiters to
>come on out to help celebrate.  This public event will be held at El
>Pueblo de Los Angeles Historical Monument, home of the world famous
>Olvera Street, the birthplace of the City of Los Angeles, in Downtown Los
>Angeles.
>

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From rigeldc at verizon.net  Sun Feb 11 12:09:33 2007
From: rigeldc at verizon.net (Brian Harris)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:09:33 -0500
Subject: FL: Gaylaxicon - staffing opportunities: furry, costuming, gaming,
	anime
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20070211120849.01264b98@incoming.verizon.net>

Forwarded for a friend...

- Rigel

The Gaylaxicon convention will be in the Washington,
DC metro area in October 10-13, 2008. The Author
Guest of Honor is Geoff Ryman and the Artist Guest of
Honor is Alicia Austin. The convention organizing
committee would like to include all of the DC
Metro area's various science fiction and fantasy related
fandoms.  We're looking for people to help us
organize and advertise to the furry, gaming, anime,
and costuming communities. More information on the
convention is available online
<http://www.gaylaxicon2008.org/>. Please contact
Krista Park <krista.park at verizon.net> if you are
interested in helping make this convention a success.
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From megaplex at pawpet.org  Sun Feb 11 23:34:07 2007
From: megaplex at pawpet.org (Megaplex 2007)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:34:07 -0500
Subject: FL: BIG FUN, NO WHAMMIES! - Megaplex 2007 News - February 2007
Message-ID: <45CFEE3F.6040103@pawpet.org>

Florida's furry arts and performance convention is back for another
spin, and this time, we're bringing the fun to the First Coast! Megaplex
2007 will be held on March 2-4, 2007, at the Wyndham Jacksonville
Riverwalk, in Jacksonville, Florida.

We're getting closer and closer! Here's the latest news!

PRE-REG CLOSING SOON!

If you haven't pre-registered for the convention, time is running out!
Not only will it be more expensive at the door, but you may miss out on
a special premium we're offering our members this year, as a thank you
for all of your support.

We're going to be handing out special Megaplex 2007 MUGS! These glass
mugs are great for your favourite beverage...and, they'll feature a
special design by Herbie! However, we'll be judging how many mugs to
order by the number of pre-registrations we get. If you pre-reg, you
*will* get a mug. If you register at the con, we may or may not have any
left...so, if you want to guarantee yourself one of these special
keepsakes, pre-reg now!

Head to http://ppmp.info/mp06/reg.php and register now! We'll be closing
pre-reg on February 19th (the day after Furry Weekend Atlanta ends).

T-SHIRTS GALORE!

While you're pre-registering, why not grab yourself one of our official
Megaplex 2007 t-shirts! The shirts will be light grey, and feature
artwork by our guest of honour, Mike Kazaleh!

(Visit http://community.livejournal.com/megaplex/28285.html to see the
t-shirt art!)

T-shirts are only $12 for sizes S-2XL. By pre-ordering, you will
guarantee yourself a shirt - and the shirts will be more expensive at
the con, as well as available only in limited numbers. We went through
our remaining inventory of 2006 shirts in something like five minutes
once the extras went on sale - don't miss out this year!

LET'S MAKE A DEAL(er's Room)!

Also, if you want to get a dealer's room table, you can take care of
that when you register, as well! Tables are still available, first come
first served, for $40 a table (limit 2).

NOTE : If you are registered dealer and have *not* received a message
from Carl Fox with important information, please contact him directly on
mp-ceo at pawpet.org.

ALSO : If you have already pre-registered and want a t-shirt or dealer's
table now, contact mp-registration at pawpet.org or mp-ceo at pawpet.org for
assistance. We'll make sure you're counted properly!

LET'S MEET OUR GUEST OF HONOUR!

Megaplex 2007 is happy to announce that Mike Kazaleh will be joining us
as Guest of Honour this year! Mike is a professional animator and comics
artist; old-school furry fans will remember his comics work on "The
Adventures of Captain Jack" (Fantagraphics), and "Mean Green Bondo
Machine" and "The Suit" (MU Press). He has also drawn "Ren and Stimpy"
for Marvel, "Cow and Chicken" for DC Comics, and "The Mighty Mutanimals"
for Archie Comics, and is currently working on "Futurama" for Bongo
Comics and "Camp Lazlo" for DC.

Animation-wise, his credits include "The New Adventures of Mighty
Mouse", "Tiny Toon Adventures", and "The Simpsons"; more recently, he
has worked on "Krypto the Superdog", "Johnny Test", and "Hi Hi Puffy Ami
Yumi". He was also a storyboard artist for the recent release, "The Ant
Bully".

Please join us in welcoming Mike to Megaplex 2007!

CARE IS BACK...

...and we're happy, as always, to support the fine work they do helping
rescue animals in Central Florida. We'll be having our charity auction
again this year. If you have items you'd like to donate to help us raise
money for C.A.R.E., contact Carl Fox at mp-ceo at pawpet.org.

WHAT'S BEHIND DOOR #1?

It's time to play! This year, we're working up a Game Show theme that is
sure to entertain...especially with our members at the contestants! Keep
an eye on the Events page at http://www.ppmp.info for more details on
the specific games, and how you can play! There'll be fursuit-specific
games, as well as games for all our members to join in on.

It wouldn't be a game show theme without the return of a crowd favourite
- the Gong Show! Our annual variety-show-with-a-twist is always
entertaining...play along, even if your act isn't that great; sometimes
it's better to perform and have been gonged than never to have performed
at all! Contact Josh Strom at mp-variety at pawpet.org if you'd like to
perform in the show.

Whose Line Is It Anyway? Our improvisational stars', that's who...and
that could include you! The improv returns for another spin in 2007.

Megaplex also welcomes the return of a couple of guys who always keep us
in stitches - Uncle Kage, and 2, the Ranting Gryphon will be back for
2007, with their unique stories and comedy. Kage and 2 often test out
new material for Anthrocon here first, so come hear what's up!

DJ Rory will be with us, as well, spinning the tunes for a
fursuit-friendly dance! That's only one of the dances we'll have this
year...and (weather permitting) we'll be dancing on outside deck,
overlooking the St. Johns River!

There'll be mystery amongst the merriment...here's a hint. You'll want
to be at the Opening Ceremonies this year... ;)

For our fursuiting and puppeteering members, Santa Fox is working those
tracks this year. If you enjoy what he has planned at FWA, you'll *love*
what we'll be doing at Megaplex!

Plus, we'll be bringing back the late-night showing of the Rocky Horror
Picture Show, a smash hit from 2006! (Yes, we're bending the rating a
little for this one - badges will be checked at the door, and no minor
badges will be admitted.)

If you have any other ideas for a panel or event that fits into our
theme for 2007, drop John Cole a line at mp-programming at pawpet.org . We
want your feedback on exactly what you want to see at the convention,
and we want to get with folks who would like to run said panels and
events. Megaplex is ultimately the members' convention, so help make it
the best it can be!

We're always on the lookout for volunteers, as well. Drop us a note if
you'd like to help out in March.

HAVE YOU VISITED THE WEBSITE LATELY?

What can you do on http://www.ppmp.info/ ? Well, you can register for
the convention, order your con t-shirt, reserve your dealer's room
table(s), and purchase con book advertisements and personals! Not to
mention, we'll be updating the site regularly with news and notes to get
you ready for the con.

Also, keep an eye on our "megaplex" community on LiveJournal, for
additional information from not only the staff of Megaplex, but our
members as well! That site is http://megaplex.livejournal.com/ .

STAY TUNED!

Keep an eye on http://www.ppmp.info/ and
http://megaplex.livejournal.com/ for the latest news and information,
and please do not hesitate to drop us a line at
megaplex-feedback at pawpet.org (or to the chairman directly at
mp-ceo at pawpet.org) if you have suggestions or questions regarding the
convention.

Also, please join our dedicated mailing list for Megaplex! Information
on joining can be found at
http://lists.pawpet.org/mailman/listinfo/megaplex-list
<http://lists.pawpet.org/mailman/listinfo/megaplex-list> .

Hope to see you at Megaplex 2007!






From bigbadwolf40 at comcast.net  Mon Feb 12 05:55:25 2007
From: bigbadwolf40 at comcast.net (BigBadWolf40@comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 05:55:25 -0500
Subject: FL: DC power questions
In-Reply-To: <000401c74cac$c597e320$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>
Message-ID: <45D0014D.9835.1AD8C581@bigbadwolf40.comcast.net>

Not sure if Radio Shack still carries it but they had a kit to fox RC 
car batteries, has both the male and female ends. Something like 
that is your best bet so you can use RC car battery packs. Their 
easy to come by and easy to get chargers and the like for.. 

Make sure you use a fuse in your curcuit, masks get hot and 
sweaty even with fans in them and the moisture could short 
something out, shorted out nicads or nimh batterys have a 
tendency to explode and that would not be good for you at all! I 
also reconnend using shrink wrap tubing and soldering any wire 
joints.. I found out early on that the salt from your sweat will 
corrode the copper in wires.. 

If Radio Shack doesn't have the connectors you need try your local 
RC car hobbie shop, such places tend to be a little more expensive 
than radio shack would be but would definatly have what you 
need..

As for estimating the time your fan/battery will run, its fairly easy, 
say you have a 1000mah battery, and a 100ma fan, it'll last up to 
10hrs in a perfect world.. My setups usually use two 7.2v batteries 
in series, gives ya 14.4v to the fans and gives them a little extra 
oomph... where size is a factor, a 9.6v RC pack is good enough for 
a single fan, they don't usually have enough of amperage to run 
two fans for more than a few hours..

There's some pix of the electronics in some of my masks on my 
web page, fursuits.wereanimal.net. check Keesar and BBW v3, I 
think there might be some more pix in some of the other ones..

Hope it helps!
BBW


On 9 Feb 2007 at 18:45, Lucky wrote:

> Howdy all.
> 
> Ok, I am working on a new project and am in need of some help.
> 
> 1.  Can anyone suggest a good, quick disconnect male and female plug
> to use to hook up a 9.6v OR a 12v dc rechargeable battery to a fan
> with a switch? Battery size will be determined once I see how each
> blows and at what rate and how long each lasts.  What I have are 2
> computer fans, one standard type and one side-blow that Ill be
> attaching to my suit in 2 different places. Each fan will have its own
> battery and on/off switch.  These will both be attached to a single
> 1/8th inch thick piece of plastic mesh, with 2 tails running off, one
> to each fan.  This should provide a suitable base to attach them to
> and to keep things from moving around.  So Im in need of an easy,
> secure way to connect / disconnect the power sources from each fan. 
> Ive seen microphone or audio cable quick connects, the metal tubes
> with 3 prongs inside and a curly tail headed to each source.  Any
> other ideas?  Radio Shack was absolutely no help whatsoever.  They
> have various switches but their staff had no idea when I asked them
> questions.
> 
> 2.  What gauge wiring should I have going from either the 9.6v or 12v
> DV batteries to the switch and then to the plug?  Currently it looks
> to be 20 gauge from the batteries.  It came preassembled with this
> wiring, but I just want to be sure before I put a load on it.
> 
> As for what Im making, you'll just have to wait for AC to find out. 
> But trust me in that, when you see it, you will not believe it.  :D
> 
> Lucky 
> 
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From marcwolf at anubis-systems.com  Mon Feb 12 06:16:34 2007
From: marcwolf at anubis-systems.com (David Boccabella)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:16:34 +1000
Subject: FL: DC power questions
In-Reply-To: <45D0014D.9835.1AD8C581@bigbadwolf40.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIOEBNEEAA.marcwolf@anubis-systems.com>

Something else that I do.. is use 5V fans.

That way you can drive them using 4 x AA nicads and they can last a long
time. In an emergency you can swap to  Alkaline cells.

Nowadays you can get AA that got upto 3000mAh - which in my suit with 2 fans
and a blinking eye system will last atleat 3 plus hours or more.

I have also seen sub C cells that will go upto 9000mAh - and these I will be
using when I get all of the R/C servo's in my suit.


Hopes this helps

Marcwolf


From Jazmyn at pacificpuma.com  Mon Feb 12 13:08:52 2007
From: Jazmyn at pacificpuma.com (Jazmyn Concolor)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:08:52 -0800
Subject: FL: DC power questions
In-Reply-To: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIOEBNEEAA.marcwolf@anubis-systems.com>
References: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIOEBNEEAA.marcwolf@anubis-systems.com>
Message-ID: <45D0AD34.5000809@pacificpuma.com>

A 9v battery will run a 12v computer fan.  Maybe not as high as if you 
used 12v worth of batteries, but it does work.. and you can get little 
9v battery clips that are plastic and can be attached inside the head. 
Have the air from the fan blow the air OUT, not in.. this will pull the 
warm air out of the head (mouth or other opening) and cooler air will 
circulate in though any other openings in the head.

David Boccabella wrote:
> Something else that I do.. is use 5V fans.
> 
> That way you can drive them using 4 x AA nicads and they can last a long
> time. In an emergency you can swap to  Alkaline cells.
> 
> Nowadays you can get AA that got upto 3000mAh - which in my suit with 2 fans
> and a blinking eye system will last atleat 3 plus hours or more.
> 
> I have also seen sub C cells that will go upto 9000mAh - and these I will be
> using when I get all of the R/C servo's in my suit.
> 
> 
> Hopes this helps
> 
> Marcwolf
> 
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From minnieme4rl at aol.com  Mon Feb 12 17:55:32 2007
From: minnieme4rl at aol.com (minnieme4rl at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:55:32 -0500
Subject: FL: DC power questions
In-Reply-To: <45D0AD34.5000809@pacificpuma.com>
References: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIOEBNEEAA.marcwolf@anubis-systems.com>
	<45D0AD34.5000809@pacificpuma.com>
Message-ID: <8C91D1008B8D96F-11F8-1E9D@mblk-d43.sysops.aol.com>

Better yet, have two fans, one to blow on your face and the other to blow the air out.  When I only had one fan that blew out, it helped, but having the second fan blow on your face helps to evaporate sweat, keeping you even cooler. 
Minnie
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jazmyn at pacificpuma.com
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: FL: DC power questions


A 9v battery will run a 12v computer fan.  Maybe not as high as if you 
used 12v worth of batteries, but it does work.. and you can get little 
9v battery clips that are plastic and can be attached inside the head. 
Have the air from the fan blow the air OUT, not in.. this will pull the 
warm air out of the head (mouth or other opening) and cooler air will 
circulate in though any other openings in the head.

David Boccabella wrote:
> Something else that I do.. is use 5V fans.
> 
> That way you can drive them using 4 x AA nicads and they can last a long
> time. In an emergency you can swap to  Alkaline cells.
> 
> Nowadays you can get AA that got upto 3000mAh - which in my suit with 2 fans
> and a blinking eye system will last atleat 3 plus hours or more.
> 
> I have also seen sub C cells that will go upto 9000mAh - and these I will be
> using when I get all of the R/C servo's in my suit.
> 
> 
> Hopes this helps
> 
> Marcwolf
> 
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From marcwolf at anubis-systems.com  Mon Feb 12 20:55:55 2007
From: marcwolf at anubis-systems.com (David Boccabella)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:55:55 +1000
Subject: FL: DC power questions
In-Reply-To: <45D0AD34.5000809@pacificpuma.com>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIAECCEEAA.marcwolf@anubis-systems.com>


Hi Jazmyn


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sat Jan  6 11:17:01 2007
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 16:17:01 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.7.1171331641.22073.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>

I have 2 fans - one pushing air in from the muzzle and the other sucking the
hot air out above the ear.

The muzzle fan is a 2.5cm (1 inch) laptop fan and that keeps a constant
breeze of cooler air on my face, plus it helps dispell any CO2 buildup
around the mouth and nostrils.

The other fan is a 40cm (1.75? inch) VGA cooler fan and that does a good job
of getting the hot air out.

The CO2 aspect is pretty important. Any build up of that and you start to
feel cramped, claustrofobic, and stressed.  Thats why when I am putting fans
in I make sure that the user is the first place the air is getting to.

I have done several fan retrofits on various suits now and I have not had
any problems.

Take Care

Marcwolf


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jazmyn Concolor [mailto:Jazmyn at pacificpuma.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 13 February 2007 04:09
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: DC power questions
>
>
> A 9v battery will run a 12v computer fan.  Maybe not as high as if you
> used 12v worth of batteries, but it does work.. and you can get little
> 9v battery clips that are plastic and can be attached inside the head.
> Have the air from the fan blow the air OUT, not in.. this will pull the
> warm air out of the head (mouth or other opening) and cooler air will
> circulate in though any other openings in the head.
>
> David Boccabella wrote:
> > Something else that I do.. is use 5V fans.
> >
> > That way you can drive them using 4 x AA nicads and they can last a long
> > time. In an emergency you can swap to  Alkaline cells.
> >
> > Nowadays you can get AA that got upto 3000mAh - which in my
> suit with 2 fans
> > and a blinking eye system will last atleat 3 plus hours or more.
> >
> > I have also seen sub C cells that will go upto 9000mAh - and
> these I will be
> > using when I get all of the R/C servo's in my suit.
> >
> >
> > Hopes this helps
> >
> > Marcwolf
> >
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From northing at gmail.com  Mon Feb 12 20:55:08 2007
From: northing at gmail.com (North)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:55:08 -0800
Subject: FL: Airline Travel with Fursuit
Message-ID: <201e9a6e0702121755t4967f449ief7295e6ecffbad4@mail.gmail.com>

I'm going to travel by air from Seattle to Atlanta for Furry Weekend
Atlanta in two days.  Usually, my fursuit lives in a big plastic bin
and travels to FC or Howloween in the boot of my car.  Can anyfur
suggest some good ways of moving a fursuit (head, tail, bodysuit,
paws) easily and cheaply through the airline system?

Thanks!
North

From fursuit at jovino.com  Mon Feb 12 21:06:43 2007
From: fursuit at jovino.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?jovino_=A0?=)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:06:43 -0800
Subject: FL: Airline Travel with Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <201e9a6e0702121755t4967f449ief7295e6ecffbad4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201e9a6e0702121755t4967f449ief7295e6ecffbad4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2FF7D913-73D6-4B83-ADF9-0426BAA9EC27@jovino.com>

Action packers or big blue bins seem to be one popular way. I've used  
the blue bin before. I secure the top with removable zip-ties thru  
holes drilled along the lip. I tape extras inside the lid in case the  
zips get cut off. And, I also have "BAGGAGE" in huge letters on the  
side.

Another option is a hockey duffel. Those things are huge.



( )_( )
(o , o)
(").(")
jovino


On Feb 12, 2007, at 5:55 PM, North wrote:

> I'm going to travel by air from Seattle to Atlanta for Furry Weekend
> Atlanta in two days.  Usually, my fursuit lives in a big plastic bin
> and travels to FC or Howloween in the boot of my car.  Can anyfur
> suggest some good ways of moving a fursuit (head, tail, bodysuit,
> paws) easily and cheaply through the airline system?
>
> Thanks!
> North
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From superhedgie at googlemail.com  Mon Feb 12 21:08:37 2007
From: superhedgie at googlemail.com (Super BH)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 02:08:37 -0000
Subject: FL: Airline Travel with Fursuit
References: <201e9a6e0702121755t4967f449ief7295e6ecffbad4@mail.gmail.com>
	<2FF7D913-73D6-4B83-ADF9-0426BAA9EC27@jovino.com>
Message-ID: <001001c74f13$e071b630$0c00000a@NoobSaibot>

A steamer trunk is also optional. These days they can weigh less than 9kgs,
and are sturdy as anything!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jovino  " <fursuit at jovino.com>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 2:06 AM
Subject: Re: FL: Airline Travel with Fursuit


> Action packers or big blue bins seem to be one popular way. I've used
> the blue bin before. I secure the top with removable zip-ties thru
> holes drilled along the lip. I tape extras inside the lid in case the
> zips get cut off. And, I also have "BAGGAGE" in huge letters on the
> side.
>
> Another option is a hockey duffel. Those things are huge.
>
>
>
> ( )_( )
> (o , o)
> (").(")
> jovino
>
>
> On Feb 12, 2007, at 5:55 PM, North wrote:
>
> > I'm going to travel by air from Seattle to Atlanta for Furry Weekend
> > Atlanta in two days.  Usually, my fursuit lives in a big plastic bin
> > and travels to FC or Howloween in the boot of my car.  Can anyfur
> > suggest some good ways of moving a fursuit (head, tail, bodysuit,
> > paws) easily and cheaply through the airline system?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > North
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From jambrassard at earthlink.net  Mon Feb 12 21:13:54 2007
From: jambrassard at earthlink.net (Michel Brassard)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:13:54 -0500
Subject: FL: Airline Travel with Fursuit
References: <201e9a6e0702121755t4967f449ief7295e6ecffbad4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00b401c74f14$9ca55690$6601a8c0@MICHELDESKTOP>

I know of two good ways, depending on how much you want to spend:

ActionPakers by RubberMaid: 
http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html?asin=B00002N6SQ
These are fairly inexpensive, with snap-lock lids, though you'll want to 
tape them shut for extra security, or maybe even zip ties.  They are also 
the maximum allowable size for airlines without being charged an oversize 
fee.  Based on my experience, and the experience of other fursuiters I know, 
ActionPackers tend to end up being opened and searched by TSA more often, 
but if that's not a concern, then this could be a good choice.

Large hardshell suitcase, like the Samsonite - Cruisair 400 Series 29" 
Spinner Upright Suitcase: 
http://www.amazon.com/Samsonite-Hardside-Spinner-Luggage-Upright/dp/B000GDNRBU/sr=8-4/qid=1171332621/ref=pd_bbs_4/105-4235962-2852436?ie=UTF8&s=apparel
This suitcase has a built-in lock that is TSA approved, moves easily on the 
wheels and his rigid, so your fursuit is protected.  The down side is that 
it is more expensive, like about $160 or so, but I've been quite happy with 
mine.

There are probably quite a few other options in suitcases too.  Hope this 
helps.

J. A. Michel Brassard - a.k.a. Michel Mephit

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "North" <northing at gmail.com>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: 12 February 2007 20:55
Subject: FL: Airline Travel with Fursuit


> I'm going to travel by air from Seattle to Atlanta for Furry Weekend
> Atlanta in two days.  Usually, my fursuit lives in a big plastic bin
> and travels to FC or Howloween in the boot of my car.  Can anyfur
> suggest some good ways of moving a fursuit (head, tail, bodysuit,
> paws) easily and cheaply through the airline system?
>
> Thanks!
> North
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From rsg0910 at iglou.com  Mon Feb 12 21:53:31 2007
From: rsg0910 at iglou.com (Robert Goodwin)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:53:31 -0500 (EST)
Subject: FL: Airline Travel with Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <no.id> from "Super BH" at Feb 13, 2007 02:08:37 AM
Message-ID: <E1HGnnP-0004C3-Hk@shell1.iglou.com>

> A steamer trunk is also optional. These days they can weigh less than 9kgs,
> and are sturdy as anything!

You sure about that? Those airline baggage gorillas nearly demolished 
two of my trunks. The first was one of those things that college kids 
have, though a little larger. The brass edging is gone or bent in places 
and the top and bottom have been pushed in. Another trunk, though smaller, 
had the plastic and metal edging in places ripped off. They're retired...

The Container Store and Walmart should have those black plastic wheeled 
trunks. Mine had the wheels ripped off on the first flight.

http://www.containerstore.com/

They should have those metal trunks. Let's see them gorillas try to 
demolish *THOSE!*

You still have to make sure you're under the measurement and weight 
limits, otherwise you're going to be nailed by expensive fees. Then again, 
someone, I think Yappy, mentioned that he paid a skycap to bypass those 
limits. Check the airline pages for that info.

I keep a small handcart in my trunks. It's pretty funny to see some people 
get jealous looks when I fold up mine and stick it in there.

There should be some more on this in the fursuit Wiki/FAQ like what to 
expect and what can be used.

-boogi-
(back to working on reports and assignments for classes...)

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From bigbadwolf40 at comcast.net  Tue Feb 13 00:42:24 2007
From: bigbadwolf40 at comcast.net (BigBadWolf40@comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 00:42:24 -0500
Subject: FL: DC power questions
In-Reply-To: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIAECCEEAA.marcwolf@anubis-systems.com>
References: <45D0AD34.5000809@pacificpuma.com>
Message-ID: <45D10970.16926.1EE4225C@bigbadwolf40.comcast.net>

there's lots of ideas on fan setups. for me it's always seemed to 
work better to have two fans, both blowing fresh air into the mask.. 
the hot air goes out of the fur or under the mask around your neck..

Some like to draw the air into the mask by having the fans blow out 
but keep in mind, it's most likely going to draw the air from under 
the mask, right over your warm body, warming the air some..

in my fursuit 101 sigs I give at AC I always tell everyone to use 
whatever works best for you.. there's really no wrong way to add 
colling to your mask, cept to not have any at all.. even one small 
fan can let you spend hours longer in suit from the reilef it brings.. 
Fursuits are fun but are HOT inside! Just the way it is...

BBW


On 13 Feb 2007 at 11:55, David Boccabella wrote:

> 
> Hi Jazmyn
> 
> From my own experiences I find 2 fans to be better
> 
> I have 2 fans - one pushing air in from the muzzle and the other
> sucking the hot air out above the ear.
> 
> The muzzle fan is a 2.5cm (1 inch) laptop fan and that keeps a
> constant breeze of cooler air on my face, plus it helps dispell any
> CO2 buildup around the mouth and nostrils.
> 
> The other fan is a 40cm (1.75? inch) VGA cooler fan and that does a
> good job of getting the hot air out.
> 
> The CO2 aspect is pretty important. Any build up of that and you start
> to feel cramped, claustrofobic, and stressed.  Thats why when I am
> putting fans in I make sure that the user is the first place the air
> is getting to.
> 
> I have done several fan retrofits on various suits now and I have not
> had any problems.
> 
> Take Care
> 
> Marcwolf
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jazmyn Concolor [mailto:Jazmyn at pacificpuma.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 13 February 2007 04:09
> > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> > Subject: Re: FL: DC power questions
> >
> >
> > A 9v battery will run a 12v computer fan.  Maybe not as high as if
> > you used 12v worth of batteries, but it does work.. and you can get
> > little 9v battery clips that are plastic and can be attached inside
> > the head. Have the air from the fan blow the air OUT, not in.. this
> > will pull the warm air out of the head (mouth or other opening) and
> > cooler air will circulate in though any other openings in the head.
> >
> > David Boccabella wrote:
> > > Something else that I do.. is use 5V fans.
> > >
> > > That way you can drive them using 4 x AA nicads and they can last
> > > a long time. In an emergency you can swap to  Alkaline cells.
> > >
> > > Nowadays you can get AA that got upto 3000mAh - which in my
> > suit with 2 fans
> > > and a blinking eye system will last atleat 3 plus hours or more.
> > >
> > > I have also seen sub C cells that will go upto 9000mAh - and
> > these I will be
> > > using when I get all of the R/C servo's in my suit.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hopes this helps
> > >
> > > Marcwolf
> > >
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From dave at konig.demon.co.uk  Tue Feb 13 07:57:33 2007
From: dave at konig.demon.co.uk (dave at konig.demon.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:57:33 +0000
Subject: FL: Airline Travel with Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <E1HGnnP-0004C3-Hk@shell1.iglou.com>
References: <E1HGnnP-0004C3-Hk@shell1.iglou.com>
Message-ID: <20070213125733.GA17804@sheba.private>

On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 09:53:31PM -0500, Robert Goodwin wrote:
> > A steamer trunk is also optional. These days they can weigh less than 9kgs,
> > and are sturdy as anything!
> 
> You sure about that? Those airline baggage gorillas nearly demolished 
> two of my trunks...

I've taken an alternative approach.  Most fursuit bits (body, hand
and foot paws, tail, undersuit) are typically no more delicate than
everyday clothes.  Often the head is the only issue.  I bought a sturdy
plastic box just big enough for the head and pack this in an ordinary
holdall surrounding it with all the soft parts of the suit and other
clothes.

I suspect that airline baggage handlers treat hard shell cases and
boxes as a personal challenge to see what damage _can_ be done to
them.

As for closures, rather than cable ties, and having to pack more cable
ties inside with instructions for the inspectors to re-use them, I
take another low-tech approach: string - its re-usable!

No trouble at all on my recent trans-atlantic trip to FC.

	David Cooke.

-- 
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the whale kept asking was "Do all oceans have walls?" - Laurie Anderson

From yappyfox at thefoxden.com  Tue Feb 13 08:37:38 2007
From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (Yappy Sly Fox)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 08:37:38 -0500
Subject: FL: Airline Travel with Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <201e9a6e0702121755t4967f449ief7295e6ecffbad4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201e9a6e0702121755t4967f449ief7295e6ecffbad4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070213133738.GA32573@foxpup.forest.thefoxden.com>

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Something I found, by accident, was these: http://www.luggageonline.com/product.cfm?product_ID=6105

This unit expanded still fits within airline regulation size, and it expands deeper than any other suitcase I have found, which works well for my 
heads.  And since it looks like a normal suitcase, I've noticed it is often not fondled by TSA, and if it is opened, they generally know how to 
re-close it..  and they are eaiser to pull through the airport even 2 of them, which is what I have.

Action packers were just too cumbersome to fly with alot..  I put wheels on one of my action packers to make it a lil biit easier to move around in the 
airport.  They always wanted to double take and charge extra for them, until you proved they were in size, and often they made me sign a waiver that 
stated since they were not actual suitcases that they took -NO- responsibility on damages.  TSA almost always opened them, and since they are 
designed for pad locks, if the TSA does not correctly put tie wraps back into them 
correctly after opening them (They tend to put them just on the padlock eylet, which since the padlock body is used to hold the red handles shut, and 
the tie wraps don't, I've had the horror experience of watching my action packer come up on the baggage clain without a lid, and drenched in rain since 
it was raining outside on the tarmac, and the lid come up a few pieces later.  Nothing makes your heart stop like seeing your expensive costume strewn 
all about the airport, and if you signed that waiver..  they tell you tough s**t.




On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 05:55:08PM -0800, North wrote:
> I'm going to travel by air from Seattle to Atlanta for Furry Weekend
> Atlanta in two days.  Usually, my fursuit lives in a big plastic bin
> and travels to FC or Howloween in the boot of my car.  Can anyfur
> suggest some good ways of moving a fursuit (head, tail, bodysuit,
> paws) easily and cheaply through the airline system?
> 
> Thanks!
> North
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From berin at bluemarble.net  Tue Feb 13 08:59:08 2007
From: berin at bluemarble.net (Berin Greenbear)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 08:59:08 -0500
Subject: FL: Airline Travel with Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <20070213133738.GA32573@foxpup.forest.thefoxden.com>
References: <201e9a6e0702121755t4967f449ief7295e6ecffbad4@mail.gmail.com>
	<20070213133738.GA32573@foxpup.forest.thefoxden.com>
Message-ID: <1171375148.45d1c42c3645c@mail.bluemarble.net>

Costly, but much safer for the suit, is to make plans ahead of time to pack and
ship the suit via FedEx or UPS.  Most hotels will accept and hold packages
shipped if the room is in your name.  You will need to call the concierge desk,
first, to make arrangements. (I've done this when shipping presentation
materials for a conference)

If the room is not in your name, you will need to jump through some hoops,
namely contacting the person signing for the room and asking them to accept
delivery of your package.  They can then contact the Hotel.

And finally, if you know someone that is planning on to the Con and is willing
to add your suit to their luggage, simply ship the suit to them.

None of these help you right now.  Best of luck with packing the suit with your
checked luggage and have a good time at FWA.

From yappyfox at thefoxden.com  Tue Feb 13 10:06:59 2007
From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (Yappy Sly Fox)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:06:59 -0500
Subject: FL: Airline Travel with Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <1171375148.45d1c42c3645c@mail.bluemarble.net>
References: <201e9a6e0702121755t4967f449ief7295e6ecffbad4@mail.gmail.com>
	<20070213133738.GA32573@foxpup.forest.thefoxden.com>
	<1171375148.45d1c42c3645c@mail.bluemarble.net>
Message-ID: <20070213150659.GA32886@foxpup.forest.thefoxden.com>


Costly is an understatement.  I shipped 2 boxes of fursuits to FC.  Going there they cost me $30 each, insured for $1500 each.

To ship them out via the UPS store in the hotel..  $90 each.  Painful experience.   The hotel last year had done my shipping for me (I don't know if 
they still offered the service, since I was told there was a UPS store..)  but last year they were only like $50 each to return..  So beware of the UPS 
store x.x

But shipping them, if you have some direct way to bill to UPS or FEDEX ground, definetly makes it easier than the hassel of dragging them through the 
airport.


On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 08:59:08AM -0500, Berin Greenbear wrote:
> Costly, but much safer for the suit, is to make plans ahead of time to pack and
> ship the suit via FedEx or UPS.  Most hotels will accept and hold packages
> shipped if the room is in your name.  You will need to call the concierge desk,
> first, to make arrangements. (I've done this when shipping presentation
> materials for a conference)
> 
> If the room is not in your name, you will need to jump through some hoops,
> namely contacting the person signing for the room and asking them to accept
> delivery of your package.  They can then contact the Hotel.
> 
> And finally, if you know someone that is planning on to the Con and is willing
> to add your suit to their luggage, simply ship the suit to them.
> 
> None of these help you right now.  Best of luck with packing the suit with your
> checked luggage and have a good time at FWA.
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Tue Feb 13 11:27:51 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:27:51 -0500
Subject: FL: Airline Travel with Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <201e9a6e0702121755t4967f449ief7295e6ecffbad4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201e9a6e0702121755t4967f449ief7295e6ecffbad4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <664953A5-B945-4EF8-9C1D-5FACA6C911AD@flyingfox.biz>

The first thing that came to mind for me was a Drum case.  The snare  
drum cases in our band look to be the perfect size for the average  
fursuit head but I'm sure there are plenty of different choices as  
far as sizes and price ranges out there at marching band / music  
stores.  I bet you can get them with wheels on the bottom and fur  
sure they are darn near indestructible -you'd just want to rig up the  
inside for a custom fit.
Cheers!

=^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



On Feb 12, 2007, at 8:55 PM, North wrote:

I'm going to travel by air from Seattle to Atlanta for Furry Weekend
Atlanta in two days.  Usually, my fursuit lives in a big plastic bin
and travels to FC or Howloween in the boot of my car.  Can anyfur
suggest some good ways of moving a fursuit (head, tail, bodysuit,
paws) easily and cheaply through the airline system?

Thanks!
North
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From antimon at earthlink.net  Tue Feb 13 18:24:57 2007
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:24:57 -0500
Subject: FL: Airline Travel with Fursuit
References: <201e9a6e0702121755t4967f449ief7295e6ecffbad4@mail.gmail.com><20070213133738.GA32573@foxpup.forest.thefoxden.com><1171375148.45d1c42c3645c@mail.bluemarble.net>
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Message-ID: <008201c74fc6$2cd7d650$0f01a8c0@bigblue>

after having several people tell me their packages / suits disapeared with 
UPS or otherwise delayed, they dont seem any more reliable then the airport, 
and much more costly.  Least with the airports it's out of my sight for the 
least duration possible, little harder to cary but most airports it's just a 
short distance form the luggage area to the door.

I;ve flown a few times with my action packers, opened twice, but i taped 
them no tie wraps. and they always came back in one peice.  The last tiem 
however, they opened it for inspection, it didn't make the same flight as 
me, so it arrived by currier the next day, now that was scary...esepecially 
as it has peices from BOTH suits in it as well as my sketch book. So if you 
have multipel suits, watch how you pack them.  What may fit better, may cost 
you more in the long run should somthing happen.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yappy Sly Fox" <yappyfox at thefoxden.com>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: FL: Airline Travel with Fursuit


>
> Costly is an understatement.  I shipped 2 boxes of fursuits to FC.  Going 
> there they cost me $30 each, insured for $1500 each.
>
> To ship them out via the UPS store in the hotel..  $90 each.  Painful 
> experience.   The hotel last year had done my shipping for me (I don't 
> know if
> they still offered the service, since I was told there was a UPS store..) 
> but last year they were only like $50 each to return..  So beware of the 
> UPS
> store x.x
>
> But shipping them, if you have some direct way to bill to UPS or FEDEX 
> ground, definetly makes it easier than the hassel of dragging them through 
> the
> airport.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 08:59:08AM -0500, Berin Greenbear wrote:
>> Costly, but much safer for the suit, is to make plans ahead of time to 
>> pack and
>> ship the suit via FedEx or UPS.  Most hotels will accept and hold 
>> packages
>> shipped if the room is in your name.  You will need to call the concierge 
>> desk,
>> first, to make arrangements. (I've done this when shipping presentation
>> materials for a conference)
>>
>> If the room is not in your name, you will need to jump through some 
>> hoops,
>> namely contacting the person signing for the room and asking them to 
>> accept
>> delivery of your package.  They can then contact the Hotel.
>>
>> And finally, if you know someone that is planning on to the Con and is 
>> willing
>> to add your suit to their luggage, simply ship the suit to them.
>>
>> None of these help you right now.  Best of luck with packing the suit 
>> with your
>> checked luggage and have a good time at FWA.
>> _______________________________________________
>> _______________________________________________
>> Fursuit Mail list.
>> To edit your subscription, visit: 
>> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
>
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From minnieme4rl at aol.com  Tue Feb 13 19:12:42 2007
From: minnieme4rl at aol.com (minnieme4rl at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:12:42 -0500
Subject: FL: DC power questions
In-Reply-To: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIAECCEEAA.marcwolf@anubis-systems.com>
Message-ID: <8C91DE3FA87C581-12C0-F43@mblk-d43.sysops.aol.com>



From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sat Jan  6 11:17:01 2007
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 16:17:01 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.8.1171411986.22073.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>

I have 2 fans - one pushing air in from the muzzle and the other sucking the
hot air out above the ear.

The muzzle fan is a 2.5cm (1 inch) laptop fan and that keeps a constant
breeze of cooler air on my face, plus it helps dispell any CO2 buildup
around the mouth and nostrils.

The other fan is a 40cm (1.75? inch) VGA cooler fan and that does a good job
of getting the hot air out.

The CO2 aspect is pretty important. Any build up of that and you start to
feel cramped, claustrofobic, and stressed.  Thats why when I am putting fans
in I make sure that the user is the first place the air is getting to.

I have done several fan retrofits on various suits now and I have not had
any problems.

Take Care

Marcwolf


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jazmyn Concolor [mailto:Jazmyn at pacificpuma.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 13 February 2007 04:09
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: DC power questions
>
>
> A 9v battery will run a 12v computer fan.  Maybe not as high as if you
> used 12v worth of batteries, but it does work.. and you can get little
> 9v battery clips that are plastic and can be attached inside the head.
> Have the air from the fan blow the air OUT, not in.. this will pull the
> warm air out of the head (mouth or other opening) and cooler air will
> circulate in though any other openings in the head.
>
> David Boccabella wrote:
> > Something else that I do.. is use 5V fans.
> >
> > That way you can drive them using 4 x AA nicads and they can last a long
> > time. In an emergency you can swap to  Alkaline cells.
> >
> > Nowadays you can get AA that got upto 3000mAh - which in my
> suit with 2 fans
> > and a blinking eye system will last atleat 3 plus hours or more.
> >
> > I have also seen sub C cells that will go upto 9000mAh - and
> these I will be
> > using when I get all of the R/C servo's in my suit.
> >
> >
> > Hopes this helps
> >
> > Marcwolf
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<div>From my experience with RAGGS, which requires dancing in suit on an outside stage (and I have done shows in 90-100 degree weather), I felt like I couldn't breathe and was about to pass out (even though I didn't).&nbsp; So whether it be my own suit or a company suit I perform in, it's now always BYOF (bring your own fans).&nbsp; I just duct tape them inside the head.&nbsp; They stay in place and once removed, there's no evidence there was ever a fan there.&nbsp; At FC just last month, having the fans allowed me to be in suit at the fursuit dance for about two hours.</div>


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<div>P.S.&nbsp; It's ironic that I'm even a fursuiter (and those who know me personally know how much suiting I do), because I normally hate being hot.&nbsp; I kick off the covers at night, and have the AC or fan on full blast.&nbsp; Glacier Tek inserts (<A href="http://www.glaciertek.com">www.glaciertek.com</A> or <A href="http://www.coolvest.com">www.coolvest.com</A>) are another "must have" for fursuiting.</div>


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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: marcwolf at anubis-systems.com<br>
To: Jazmyn at pacificpuma.com; fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org<br>
Sent: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 5:55 PM<br>
Subject: Re: FL: DC power questions<br>
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Hi Jazmyn


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sat Jan  6 11:17:01 2007
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 16:17:01 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.9.1171411986.22073.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>

I have 2 fans - one pushing air in from the muzzle and the other sucking the
hot air out above the ear.

The muzzle fan is a 2.5cm (1 inch) laptop fan and that keeps a constant
breeze of cooler air on my face, plus it helps dispell any CO2 buildup
around the mouth and nostrils.

The other fan is a 40cm (1.75? inch) VGA cooler fan and that does a good job
of getting the hot air out.

The CO2 aspect is pretty important. Any build up of that and you start to
feel cramped, claustrofobic, and stressed.  Thats why when I am putting fans
in I make sure that the user is the first place the air is getting to.

I have done several fan retrofits on various suits now and I have not had
any problems.

Take Care

Marcwolf


&gt; -----Original Message-----
&gt; From: Jazmyn Concolor [<A href='javascript:parent.ComposeTo("Jazmyn%40pacificpuma.com", "");'>mailto:Jazmyn at pacificpuma.com</A>]
&gt; Sent: Tuesday, 13 February 2007 04:09
&gt; To: <A href='javascript:parent.ComposeTo("fursuit-list%40lists.fursuit.org", "");'>fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org</A>
&gt; Subject: Re: FL: DC power questions
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; A 9v battery will run a 12v computer fan.  Maybe not as high as if you
&gt; used 12v worth of batteries, but it does work.. and you can get little
&gt; 9v battery clips that are plastic and can be attached inside the head.
&gt; Have the air from the fan blow the air OUT, not in.. this will pull the
&gt; warm air out of the head (mouth or other opening) and cooler air will
&gt; circulate in though any other openings in the head.
&gt;
&gt; David Boccabella wrote:
&gt; &gt; Something else that I do.. is use 5V fans.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; That way you can drive them using 4 x AA nicads and they can last a long
&gt; &gt; time. In an emergency you can swap to  Alkaline cells.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Nowadays you can get AA that got upto 3000mAh - which in my
&gt; suit with 2 fans
&gt; &gt; and a blinking eye system will last atleat 3 plus hours or more.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I have also seen sub C cells that will go upto 9000mAh - and
&gt; these I will be
&gt; &gt; using when I get all of the R/C servo's in my suit.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Hopes this helps
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Marcwolf
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From tibortiger at bearpawsystemseng.com  Tue Feb 13 20:37:13 2007
From: tibortiger at bearpawsystemseng.com (Tibor Tiger)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:37:13 -0500
Subject: FL: Shipping fursuits from FC
In-Reply-To: <20070213150659.GA32886@foxpup.forest.thefoxden.com>
References: <201e9a6e0702121755t4967f449ief7295e6ecffbad4@mail.gmail.com>
	<20070213133738.GA32573@foxpup.forest.thefoxden.com>
	<1171375148.45d1c42c3645c@mail.bluemarble.net>
	<20070213150659.GA32886@foxpup.forest.thefoxden.com>
Message-ID: <822FAEDA-83E4-4D46-B82D-72B63375A67D@bearpawsystemseng.com>

This year at FC I arrived with 2 suits and needed to leave with 3 so  
I opted to ship one home.  The UPS store at the hotel charged me $22 
+tax for a 24"x24"x24" empty box.  Then they quoted me $77 for ground  
shipping with $600 insurance.  FEDEX had a box for $10.50 and  
shipping for $40 with the same insurance.  I already bought the box  
but I saved big on the shipping.  Also, the UPS web site quoted the  
same price on the shipping so the UPS store doesn't have a shipping  
markup, and the FEDEX store had the same price as the website.

How to get to the nearest FEDEX store?  Go to the end of the FC hotel  
overflow parking lot.  You know where the white gates are?  The FEDEX  
drop off center is in the building at that end of the parking lot.   
Next year if you need to ship something, take the walk over to FEDEX.

Tibor


From blue_heel at fsun.net  Sat Feb 17 18:29:26 2007
From: blue_heel at fsun.net (Doctor)
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 17:29:26 -0600
Subject: FL: It's coming
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20070217172612.0242f890@mail.fsun.net>

It's Coming.....
---
Tyger Cowboy leaning his head on the bar watching a TV, Blue Heeler SunFire 
sitting next to him...

Blue: Ten's enough, don't you think? <pause> Do you think we need one more? 
<pause> You think we need one more. <pause> Okay, we'll get one more.
---

Stay tuned.

--
Blue Heeler SunFire
Original member of FSUN (Furry Supporters of Universal Networks)
Blue_Heel on Undernet; FurryMuck; SPR; Tapestries; Yukon Trails
Furry Writer; art collector
www.fsun.net/blue_heel
Furry Code available upon request. 


From fox at flyingfox.biz  Mon Feb 19 19:35:01 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (John Fox Kinsman)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:35:01 -0500
Subject: FL: That good ol' classic pattern
In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20070217172612.0242f890@mail.fsun.net>
References: <6.0.0.22.2.20070217172612.0242f890@mail.fsun.net>
Message-ID: <91493A1A-DB8D-453E-84AC-5377A9850A92@flyingfox.biz>

Hey all!

Just got back from FWA (frikkin awesome btw!!) and diving into  
constructing my suit.  Got a good pair of scissors and lots of muslin  
but the darn Simplicity pattern that was widely recommended at the  
Fursuit construction 101 panel -where do you find it?  our local  
walmart has one for little kids and the McCall's catalog had a lion  
that looked cool but I was not sure at all if I should get that since  
I didn't hear it mentioned at the panel.  Please, if anyone knows  
what number the recommended Simplicity one is now -let me know and  
I'll go hunt it down and jump on it right away.  Thanks!!

spark

Fox =^_^=
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From mrbunny at mr-bunny.com  Mon Feb 19 21:01:05 2007
From: mrbunny at mr-bunny.com (Amorpheous E. Bunny)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:01:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: That good ol' classic pattern
In-Reply-To: <91493A1A-DB8D-453E-84AC-5377A9850A92@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <20070220020105.36562.qmail@web51406.mail.yahoo.com>

McCalls costumes #mp232
Simplicity #9983


--- John Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:

> Hey all!
> 
> Just got back from FWA (frikkin awesome btw!!) and
> diving into  
> constructing my suit.  Got a good pair of scissors
> and lots of muslin  
> but the darn Simplicity pattern that was widely
> recommended at the  
> Fursuit construction 101 panel -where do you find
> it?  our local  
> walmart has one for little kids and the McCall's
> catalog had a lion  
> that looked cool but I was not sure at all if I
> should get that since  
> I didn't hear it mentioned at the panel.  Please, if
> anyone knows  
> what number the recommended Simplicity one is now
> -let me know and  
> I'll go hunt it down and jump on it right away. 
> Thanks!!
> 
> spark
> 
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> fox at flyingfox.biz
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From superhedgie at googlemail.com  Tue Feb 20 01:45:26 2007
From: superhedgie at googlemail.com (Super BH)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 06:45:26 -0000
Subject: FL: That good ol' classic pattern
References: <20070220020105.36562.qmail@web51406.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000901c754ba$b56cdfd0$0c00000a@NoobSaibot>

I think that Simplicity one was discontinued many years ago.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Amorpheous E. Bunny" <mrbunny at mr-bunny.com>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: FL: That good ol' classic pattern


> McCalls costumes #mp232
> Simplicity #9983
>
>
> --- John Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
>
> > Hey all!
> >
> > Just got back from FWA (frikkin awesome btw!!) and
> > diving into
> > constructing my suit.  Got a good pair of scissors
> > and lots of muslin
> > but the darn Simplicity pattern that was widely
> > recommended at the
> > Fursuit construction 101 panel -where do you find
> > it?  our local
> > walmart has one for little kids and the McCall's
> > catalog had a lion
> > that looked cool but I was not sure at all if I
> > should get that since
> > I didn't hear it mentioned at the panel.  Please, if
> > anyone knows
> > what number the recommended Simplicity one is now
> > -let me know and
> > I'll go hunt it down and jump on it right away.
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > spark
> >
> > Fox =^_^=
> > John Fox Kinsman
> > fox at flyingfox.biz
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From foxfairy at gmail.com  Tue Feb 20 17:46:37 2007
From: foxfairy at gmail.com (Springmoon)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:46:37 -0500
Subject: FL: That good ol' classic pattern
In-Reply-To: <000901c754ba$b56cdfd0$0c00000a@NoobSaibot>
References: <20070220020105.36562.qmail@web51406.mail.yahoo.com>
	<000901c754ba$b56cdfd0$0c00000a@NoobSaibot>
Message-ID: <c4c590d70702201446x194f90bcid5721cf9e3908c2c@mail.gmail.com>

I couldn't find that one either, but I found a jumpsuit sleeper
pattern thing that worked... Don't know the number of it right now,
but I guess any one-piece pajama pattern would work, you'd just have
to modify it.

2/20/07, Super BH <superhedgie at googlemail.com> wrote:
> I think that Simplicity one was discontinued many years ago.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Amorpheous E. Bunny" <mrbunny at mr-bunny.com>
> To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 2:01 AM
> Subject: Re: FL: That good ol' classic pattern
>
>
> > McCalls costumes #mp232
> > Simplicity #9983
> >
> >
> > --- John Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey all!
> > >
> > > Just got back from FWA (frikkin awesome btw!!) and
> > > diving into
> > > constructing my suit.  Got a good pair of scissors
> > > and lots of muslin
> > > but the darn Simplicity pattern that was widely
> > > recommended at the
> > > Fursuit construction 101 panel -where do you find
> > > it?  our local
> > > walmart has one for little kids and the McCall's
> > > catalog had a lion
> > > that looked cool but I was not sure at all if I
> > > should get that since
> > > I didn't hear it mentioned at the panel.  Please, if
> > > anyone knows
> > > what number the recommended Simplicity one is now
> > > -let me know and
> > > I'll go hunt it down and jump on it right away.
> > > Thanks!!
> > >
> > > spark
> > >
> > > Fox =^_^=
> > > John Fox Kinsman
> > > fox at flyingfox.biz
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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From sales at action-actors.com  Tue Feb 20 18:38:52 2007
From: sales at action-actors.com (Corey Sosner)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:38:52 -0500
Subject: FL: Job Opportunity
In-Reply-To: <c4c590d70702201446x194f90bcid5721cf9e3908c2c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0JDS00AASCD64650@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

I'm looking for a quote to make a polar bear like the one that is on the
coke Commercial, Anyone willing to do this project please email me at 
sales at action-actors.com
Thanks 


-----Original Message-----
From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
[mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Springmoon
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 5:47 PM
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Subject: Re: FL: That good ol' classic pattern

I couldn't find that one either, but I found a jumpsuit sleeper
pattern thing that worked... Don't know the number of it right now,
but I guess any one-piece pajama pattern would work, you'd just have
to modify it.

2/20/07, Super BH <superhedgie at googlemail.com> wrote:
> I think that Simplicity one was discontinued many years ago.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Amorpheous E. Bunny" <mrbunny at mr-bunny.com>
> To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 2:01 AM
> Subject: Re: FL: That good ol' classic pattern
>
>
> > McCalls costumes #mp232
> > Simplicity #9983
> >
> >
> > --- John Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey all!
> > >
> > > Just got back from FWA (frikkin awesome btw!!) and
> > > diving into
> > > constructing my suit.  Got a good pair of scissors
> > > and lots of muslin
> > > but the darn Simplicity pattern that was widely
> > > recommended at the
> > > Fursuit construction 101 panel -where do you find
> > > it?  our local
> > > walmart has one for little kids and the McCall's
> > > catalog had a lion
> > > that looked cool but I was not sure at all if I
> > > should get that since
> > > I didn't hear it mentioned at the panel.  Please, if
> > > anyone knows
> > > what number the recommended Simplicity one is now
> > > -let me know and
> > > I'll go hunt it down and jump on it right away.
> > > Thanks!!
> > >
> > > spark
> > >
> > > Fox =^_^=
> > > John Fox Kinsman
> > > fox at flyingfox.biz
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Wed Feb 21 13:03:48 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:03:48 -0500
Subject: FL: Any one dealt with these guys?
Message-ID: <7CDE1297-0268-41E9-BDBB-9D274C48B3AA@flyingfox.biz>

Hello!

Just wondering if anyones ever dealt with this company before...  
DistinctiveFabric.com

I'm just curious as I have ordered and am anxiously awaiting the  
arrival of free samples of a bunch of different fur types.

Spark


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



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From neoleo at gmail.com  Wed Feb 21 13:08:37 2007
From: neoleo at gmail.com (Alexis)
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 19:08:37 +0100
Subject: FL: Any one dealt with these guys?
In-Reply-To: <7CDE1297-0268-41E9-BDBB-9D274C48B3AA@flyingfox.biz>
References: <7CDE1297-0268-41E9-BDBB-9D274C48B3AA@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <4025d9ef0702211008h23d3af33hb9779d8a0e53e6ef@mail.gmail.com>

Have never gotten anything besides samples from them myself, but I've
heard from various people that they're ok :)

=Alexis

On 2/21/07, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Just wondering if anyones ever dealt with this company before...
> DistinctiveFabric.com
>
> I'm just curious as I have ordered and am anxiously awaiting the arrival of
> free samples of a bunch of different fur types.
>
> Spark
>
>
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> www.flyingfox.biz
>
>
>
>
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From aerak.wolf at gmail.com  Wed Feb 21 13:24:31 2007
From: aerak.wolf at gmail.com (Aerak Wolf)
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:24:31 -0600
Subject: FL: Any one dealt with these guys?
In-Reply-To: <7CDE1297-0268-41E9-BDBB-9D274C48B3AA@flyingfox.biz>
References: <7CDE1297-0268-41E9-BDBB-9D274C48B3AA@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <2373a4f90702211024s47e2583bs4075a2131480d767@mail.gmail.com>

I've ordered fur from them on a few occasions and have never had any problems.

-Aerak

On 2/21/07, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Just wondering if anyones ever dealt with this company before...
> DistinctiveFabric.com
>
> I'm just curious as I have ordered and am anxiously awaiting the arrival of
> free samples of a bunch of different fur types.
>
> Spark
>
>
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> www.flyingfox.biz
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From yggithalatyr at gmail.com  Wed Feb 21 15:14:47 2007
From: yggithalatyr at gmail.com (Ashford Wyrd)
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:14:47 -0600
Subject: FL: Any one dealt with these guys?
In-Reply-To: <7CDE1297-0268-41E9-BDBB-9D274C48B3AA@flyingfox.biz>
References: <7CDE1297-0268-41E9-BDBB-9D274C48B3AA@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <45DCA837.3050804@gmail.com>

They have some nice products. The cat print furs are kind of low pile 
though.

Fox Kinsman wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> Just wondering if anyones ever dealt with this company 
> before... DistinctiveFabric.com
> 
> I'm just curious as I have ordered and am anxiously awaiting the arrival 
> of free samples of a bunch of different fur types.
> 
> Spark
> 
> 
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> www.flyingfox.biz
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From Karen.Upfront at shaw.ca  Thu Feb 22 10:14:58 2007
From: Karen.Upfront at shaw.ca (Upfront Mascots)
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 08:14:58 -0700
Subject: FL: Any one dealt with these guys?
References: <7CDE1297-0268-41E9-BDBB-9D274C48B3AA@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <00ac01c75694$3778ca40$6501a8c0@ownerafab910f5>

yes they have a good reputation and I have never been ripped off by them. 
Karen, Up Front Mascots. 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Fox Kinsman 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 11:03 AM
  Subject: FL: Any one dealt with these guys?


  Hello!


  Just wondering if anyones ever dealt with this company before... DistinctiveFabric.com


  I'm just curious as I have ordered and am anxiously awaiting the arrival of free samples of a bunch of different fur types.


  Spark





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From superhedgie at googlemail.com  Sun Feb 25 09:59:29 2007
From: superhedgie at googlemail.com (Super BH)
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:59:29 -0000
Subject: FL: Custom clothing
Message-ID: <001601c758ed$8d018910$0c00000a@NoobSaibot>

Does anyone know where I could find somewhere that would be able to make me a black vest with plastic quills on the back?

Hedgie
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From ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com  Fri Feb 23 15:59:20 2007
From: ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com (ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:59:20 EST
Subject: FL: [FA: United! Aug 2007] Feb Newsletter
Message-ID: <bda.ff905ce.3310afa8@aol.com>

FA: United!
www.faunited.org 

Register  online for FA: United! Attending membership is only $30!  The furry 
 convention is taking place from August 10-12, 2007 at the Ramada Inn Newark  
International Airport hotel, A Wyndham Worldwide Hotel, in Newark, New 
Jersey!  

In This Issue:

1. In Which a Charity is Revealed
2. If Our  Rap's Soup, Our Beats is Stock
3. Like Mardi Gras, Only Less Mardi (And More  Gras)
4. Our Mailing List Makes You Sexy and  Attractive[*]

-----=====-----

1. In Which a Charity is  Revealed

One of our goals at FA United is to keep in touch with our local  community, 
and in that spirit we set out to find a local animal-based charity to  sponsor 
at our event. We wanted a charity where donations would have an effect  right 
here in our back yard, and where the money could benefit the animals  
directly without getting caught up in administrative overhead.

We are  pleased to announce the Lakota Wolf Preserve as our charity for FA 
United 2007.  Located near the Delaware Water Gap in Columbia, NJ, the Lakota 
Wolf Preserve is  home to 24 wolves, as well as two foxes and three bobcats. The 
money you donate  will go to the care and feeding of the animals, as well as 
maintaining their  habitat.

How can you help support this charity? The easiest (and most  fun!) way is to 
participate in our Charity Raffle, either by donating items for  others to 
bid on, or by bidding on items yourself. Raffle tickets will be $1  each, or 6 
for $5, and 100% of the proceeds from the raffle will be donated to  Lakota 
Wolf. (If you'd like to donate any items for the raffle, send an email to  
faunited at faunited.org to let us know what you've got.)

Lakota will also  have merchandise for sale in our Dealer Room, including the 
option to sponsor a  wolf. A $25 donation gets you an invitation to their 
observation area, a photo  magnet of your wolf, and their quarterly newsletter. 
For $45 you'll get a second  visit and a Sponsors-only t-shirt. And for $100, 
you get a third visit and a  framed 5x7 print of your lucky lupine.

-----=====-----

2. If Our  Rap's Soup, Our Beats is Stock

What's the only thing better than having a  DJ rock the house all night long? 
How about having *four* of them, plus some  live bands? That's what we 
thought.

Friday night's party bring us three  incredible international furry DJs. How 
incredible, you ask? So incredible that  our lawyers have advised us not to re
lease their names, for fear of being mobbed  by crazed fanboys who just can't 
wait for August before they start partying!  (Ok, that's a lie. They're not 
really lawyers, they're the night crew at IHOP.  But one of them says his 
uncle's a lawyer.)

On Saturday, only one word  can describe what we have in store, and that word 
is "live entertainment." (Yes,  that's one word. Trust us.) We've got a pair 
of furry bands opening up, followed  by one of Brooklyn's best acts, The Gay 
Blades, who we are told are not actually  gay, and do not actually slay 
vampires, though we have been asked to keep them  away from garlic. To top everything 
off, we'll be bringing in another DJ to keep  the party going well into the 
night.

And hey, let's admit it -- what's a  furcon party without some, er... 'adult 
beverages,' right? Well you'll be happy  to find a cash bar open through the 
whole show each night, serving up name-brand  liquors and a decent selection of 
beers. Of course, you'll need to prove you're  over 21 to the bartender, so 
make sure you bring your  ID.

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That's right, a furcon just isn't a furcon without a Masquerade!  For the 
uninitiated, it's a bit like a high school talent show, only less school  (and 
maybe a little more high). Who wouldn't want to be a part of  that?

Not you, that's who... wouldn't... not want to... wait, let's try  that again.

Who wouldn't want to be a part of that? Only the lame, the  square, and the 
fundamentally un-hip, that's who. Surely you aren't any of  that...right?

So, show us what you've got! Send us your idea for a talent  you'd like to 
show off or a skit you'd like to perform, and we might just give  you your 15 
minutes of fame. Write to us at faunited at faunited.org and tell us  all about it. 
Then when you're good and famous you can go rub it in your high  school 
guidance counsellor's face for suggesting 'animal husbandry' as your  ideal career 
field.

What's that? Animal husbandry *is* your...you know  what? Just don't use that 
in your masquerade act, and you'll be fine. We  promise.

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From antimon at earthlink.net  Mon Feb 26 11:17:43 2007
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:17:43 -0500
Subject: FL: Custom clothing
References: <001601c758ed$8d018910$0c00000a@NoobSaibot>
Message-ID: <02f401c759c1$a510cb90$0f01a8c0@bigblue>

getting clothign amde is hard belive me i know :) i have no suggestions as i was largly unsucessful in my enever, i ahd a friend do it fo rme, and the reults work well but ti was a pain on us both  :)
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Super BH 
  To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org 
  Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 9:59 AM
  Subject: FL: Custom clothing


  Does anyone know where I could find somewhere that would be able to make me a black vest with plastic quills on the back?

  Hedgie


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From Karen.Upfront at shaw.ca  Mon Feb 26 11:23:33 2007
From: Karen.Upfront at shaw.ca (Upfront Mascots)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:23:33 -0700
Subject: FL: Custom clothing
References: <001601c758ed$8d018910$0c00000a@NoobSaibot>
	<02f401c759c1$a510cb90$0f01a8c0@bigblue>
Message-ID: <017801c759c2$75b2ad40$6501a8c0@ownerafab910f5>

We can do that for you as we are a costume shop. but I would need a lot more information. you can call me toll free 866-485-9795 Karen. Up Front Mascots. 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Antimon 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:17 AM
  Subject: Re: FL: Custom clothing


  getting clothign amde is hard belive me i know :) i have no suggestions as i was largly unsucessful in my enever, i ahd a friend do it fo rme, and the reults work well but ti was a pain on us both  :)
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Super BH 
    To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org 
    Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 9:59 AM
    Subject: FL: Custom clothing


    Does anyone know where I could find somewhere that would be able to make me a black vest with plastic quills on the back?

    Hedgie


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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Mon Feb 26 12:07:13 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:07:13 -0500
Subject: FL: working on first suit
In-Reply-To: <017801c759c2$75b2ad40$6501a8c0@ownerafab910f5>
References: <001601c758ed$8d018910$0c00000a@NoobSaibot>
	<02f401c759c1$a510cb90$0f01a8c0@bigblue>
	<017801c759c2$75b2ad40$6501a8c0@ownerafab910f5>
Message-ID: <382CF1F6-C25F-4DC8-BE67-8BCBD0E700AF@flyingfox.biz>

Hello all!

I'm making my first suit and I'm flying blind (well almost -made a  
really crappy half suit about 13 years ago).
I've made the head out of those 1" foam sheets and carved the shape  
out.  I'm wondering the best way to go about attaching the fur fabric  
to it to get the proper curves on the muzzle and cheeks -sew? glue?   
is there perhaps a website with a step by step or does anyone have a  
link to a in depth detailed 'how-to' discussion?

Please help!  it's coming along very well so far but I want to make  
sure I do it correctly all the way through so it ends up fantastic - 
thanks!


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
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From Mediarod at aol.com  Mon Feb 26 12:18:08 2007
From: Mediarod at aol.com (Mediarod at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:18:08 EST
Subject: FL: working on first suit
Message-ID: <d01.a6d799b.33147050@aol.com>

 
 
I think this message was sent to me by mistake..
Rod Mitchell
 
In a message dated 2/26/2007 11:08:35 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
fox at flyingfox.biz writes:

Hello  all!  


I'm making my first suit and I'm flying blind (well almost -made a really  
crappy half suit about 13 years ago).
I've made the head out of those 1" foam sheets and carved the shape  out.  
I'm wondering the best way to go about attaching the fur fabric to  it to get 
the proper curves on the muzzle and cheeks -sew? glue?  is  there perhaps a 
website with a step by step or does anyone have a link to a in  depth detailed 
'how-to' discussion?


Please help!  it's coming along very well so far but I want to make  sure I 
do it correctly all the way through so it ends up fantastic  -thanks!
 



Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz










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From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Mon Feb 26 17:30:36 2007
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (Cyan FOX)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:30:36 -0500
Subject: FL: working on first suit
In-Reply-To: <382CF1F6-C25F-4DC8-BE67-8BCBD0E700AF@flyingfox.biz>
References: <001601c758ed$8d018910$0c00000a@NoobSaibot>
	<02f401c759c1$a510cb90$0f01a8c0@bigblue>
	<017801c759c2$75b2ad40$6501a8c0@ownerafab910f5>
	<382CF1F6-C25F-4DC8-BE67-8BCBD0E700AF@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <b1c118750702261430i463c5b3bxf467652ea8cdc64e@mail.gmail.com>

*wagwagwag* Hey there, I'm getting into fursuit construction as well, I've
never even tried yet but there are a bunch of websites i can shoot over to
you:


   - http://wolfden.critter.net/fursuits/index.htm
   - http://www.nicodemus.org/fursuit/



   - Fursuit Ring, The <http://d.webring.com/hub?ring=thefursuitring>
   Ring for mascot and animal costumers, performers, and builders of all
   types.
   www.d.webring.com/hub?ring=thefursuitring
   - Fursuit: The Furry Costume Information Exchange<http://www.fursuit.org/>
   Email list for the discussion of furry costuming. Includes the Fursuit
   Technical Reference Manual, which covers materials and tools, patternmaking,
   safety issues, and other fursuit construction tips.
   www.fursuit.org
   - Fursuit and Costume Archive <http://fursuit.timduru.org/>
   Extensive video and picture archive of fursuits from a variety of
   sources including Furry conventions, televison, Furries in the news,
   Furmeets, and other events.
   www.fursuit.timduru.org
   - Nicodemus's Fursuit Pages <http://www.nicodemus.org/fursuit.cgi>
   Resource for creators of animal, mascot, and fantasy costumes. Offers
   how-to guides, material and tool suggestions, and a gallery of projects.
   www.nicodemus.org/fursuit.cgi
   - Diadexxus' Fursuiting Site <http://www.chameleon.net/diadexxus/>
   Fursuit gallery features stories, galleries, designer, and
   construction information.
   www.chameleon.net/diadexxus
   - Big Bad Wolf's FurSuit Page <http://www.furnation.com/Big_Bad_Wolf/>
   Gallery of wolf, cat, and bear fursuits, some accompanied with
   instructions.
   www.furnation.com/Big_Bad_Wolf
   - Coogrrr's Den<http://dizzy.mountainkitty.com/costume/dizzycat/buildingDizzy.html>
   Dizzy da ToonCat's construction pages feature fursuit news,
   information, and resources.
   www.dizzy.mountainkitty.com/costume/dizzycat/buildingDizzy.html
   - Laura's Fox n' Fursuit Page: Fursuit
Construction<http://transwarp.transwarp.com/%7Eloriana/fursuits.html>
   Offers tips for creating a fiberglass head.
   www.transwarp.transwarp.com/~loriana/fursuits.html


>    - http://www.timberwolf.org/html/costumeconst.html
>    - http://community.livejournal.com/fursuit/profile
>    - http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Fursuit
>    - http://www.anthrocon.org/forum/fursuit
>
>
Hope This Helps *wags*


On 2/26/07, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
>
> Hello all!
> I'm making my first suit and I'm flying blind (well almost -made a really
> crappy half suit about 13 years ago).
> I've made the head out of those 1" foam sheets and carved the shape out.
> I'm wondering the best way to go about attaching the fur fabric to it to get
> the proper curves on the muzzle and cheeks -sew? glue?  is there perhaps a
> website with a step by step or does anyone have a link to a in depth
> detailed 'how-to' discussion?
>
> Please help!  it's coming along very well so far but I want to make sure I
> do it correctly all the way through so it ends up fantastic -thanks!
>
>
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> www.flyingfox.biz
>
>
>
>
>
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From anthrobunny at gmail.com  Mon Feb 26 19:39:02 2007
From: anthrobunny at gmail.com (Blackberry)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:39:02 -0800
Subject: FL: working on first suit
In-Reply-To: <382CF1F6-C25F-4DC8-BE67-8BCBD0E700AF@flyingfox.biz>
References: <001601c758ed$8d018910$0c00000a@NoobSaibot>
	<02f401c759c1$a510cb90$0f01a8c0@bigblue>
	<017801c759c2$75b2ad40$6501a8c0@ownerafab910f5>
	<382CF1F6-C25F-4DC8-BE67-8BCBD0E700AF@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <982832d90702261639w48170c92u9c12427cd3f29a19@mail.gmail.com>

On 2/26/07, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
> Hello all!
>
> I'm making my first suit and I'm flying blind (well almost -made a really
> crappy half suit about 13 years ago).
> I've made the head out of those 1" foam sheets and carved the shape out.
> I'm wondering the best way to go about attaching the fur fabric to it to get
> the proper curves on the muzzle and cheeks -sew? glue?  is there perhaps a
> website with a step by step or does anyone have a link to a in depth
> detailed 'how-to' discussion?

Here's what I invented on my own:

- After the head shape is finished, I then put down a thin layer of
batting over the plastic mesh and foam rubber (actually, I use floor
heat register filter pads) which provides that soft give of real flesh
just before the firmer foam underneath (and it covers any plastic mesh
and any lumps in the foam).  I attach that to the foam rubber using
Super 77 and let it dry completely for a few days.

- Then, I start attaching the fur to that batting layer, again using
Super 77.  I take care to (a) fit the fur pieces in place first, (b)
spray only the batting, never the fur, and (c) ventilate, ventilate,
ventilate.  If I get the glue too thick on the batting, I let it dry
first before I come back and try again.  Otherwise, pressing the fur
down to the thick glue can cause the glue to come up through the fur
fabric and glue the fur together.

-- 
"I guess I like board games more than most people. And by that I mean
I like playing board games more than most people do, and I like board
games more than I like most people." - Strong Sad, homestarrunner.com

From fox at flyingfox.biz  Tue Feb 27 06:35:31 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (John Fox Kinsman)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:35:31 -0500
Subject: FL: working on first suit
In-Reply-To: <982832d90702261639w48170c92u9c12427cd3f29a19@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001601c758ed$8d018910$0c00000a@NoobSaibot>
	<02f401c759c1$a510cb90$0f01a8c0@bigblue>
	<017801c759c2$75b2ad40$6501a8c0@ownerafab910f5>
	<382CF1F6-C25F-4DC8-BE67-8BCBD0E700AF@flyingfox.biz>
	<982832d90702261639w48170c92u9c12427cd3f29a19@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <610E7AA8-AD4B-4085-B8D0-A7FB4EF2965B@flyingfox.biz>

Thanks, you guys, fur all your help -I definitely feel better about  
proceeding -was just starting to feel like 'what have I got myself  
into here' lol!

last question - well fur now lol

where to find fur with a really really long pile -like 3 -4 inches?

I actually bought a huge piece ten years ago from Sage's fabrics when  
i lived in massachusetts before I got into fursuiting (I used it as a  
dern blanket) so I know it exists as someone out there makes it. (i'd  
be using it now but I actually threw it out a few years back since it  
got funky in my basement -drat)
I've got some great samples from distinctivefabric.com and I'll  
probably be making an order with them for various colors -but the  
white, 3 inch pile eludes me.
If anyone has an idea -please let me know -thanks!



Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
fox at flyingfox.biz




On Feb 26, 2007, at 7:39 PM, Blackberry wrote:

On 2/26/07, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
> Hello all!
>
> I'm making my first suit and I'm flying blind (well almost -made a  
> really
> crappy half suit about 13 years ago).
> I've made the head out of those 1" foam sheets and carved the shape  
> out.
> I'm wondering the best way to go about attaching the fur fabric to  
> it to get
> the proper curves on the muzzle and cheeks -sew? glue?  is there  
> perhaps a
> website with a step by step or does anyone have a link to a in depth
> detailed 'how-to' discussion?

Here's what I invented on my own:

- After the head shape is finished, I then put down a thin layer of
batting over the plastic mesh and foam rubber (actually, I use floor
heat register filter pads) which provides that soft give of real flesh
just before the firmer foam underneath (and it covers any plastic mesh
and any lumps in the foam).  I attach that to the foam rubber using
Super 77 and let it dry completely for a few days.

- Then, I start attaching the fur to that batting layer, again using
Super 77.  I take care to (a) fit the fur pieces in place first, (b)
spray only the batting, never the fur, and (c) ventilate, ventilate,
ventilate.  If I get the glue too thick on the batting, I let it dry
first before I come back and try again.  Otherwise, pressing the fur
down to the thick glue can cause the glue to come up through the fur
fabric and glue the fur together.

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From daspony at hotmail.com  Tue Feb 27 06:44:11 2007
From: daspony at hotmail.com (Lisa Smith)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:44:11 -0500
Subject: FL: working on first suit
In-Reply-To: <610E7AA8-AD4B-4085-B8D0-A7FB4EF2965B@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <BAY113-F8AABFE99A87DB49218EA1B1820@phx.gbl>

http://www.montereymills.com/Catalog_i1375565.html?catId=59348

That's Monterey Mills, and the link will take you right to their "white fox" 
fur. That's a 3 inch pile, and it's fabulous stuff, I've got a bunch right 
now I'm working with.

~Niiku


>From: John Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: Re: FL: working on first suit
>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:35:31 -0500
>
>Thanks, you guys, fur all your help -I definitely feel better about  
>proceeding -was just starting to feel like 'what have I got myself  into 
>here' lol!
>
>last question - well fur now lol
>
>where to find fur with a really really long pile -like 3 -4 inches?
>
>I actually bought a huge piece ten years ago from Sage's fabrics when  i 
>lived in massachusetts before I got into fursuiting (I used it as a  dern 
>blanket) so I know it exists as someone out there makes it. (i'd  be using 
>it now but I actually threw it out a few years back since it  got funky in 
>my basement -drat)
>I've got some great samples from distinctivefabric.com and I'll  probably 
>be making an order with them for various colors -but the  white, 3 inch 
>pile eludes me.
>If anyone has an idea -please let me know -thanks!
>
>
>
>Fox =^_^=
>John Fox Kinsman
>fox at flyingfox.biz
>
>
>
>
>On Feb 26, 2007, at 7:39 PM, Blackberry wrote:
>
>On 2/26/07, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
>>Hello all!
>>
>>I'm making my first suit and I'm flying blind (well almost -made a  really
>>crappy half suit about 13 years ago).
>>I've made the head out of those 1" foam sheets and carved the shape  out.
>>I'm wondering the best way to go about attaching the fur fabric to  it to 
>>get
>>the proper curves on the muzzle and cheeks -sew? glue?  is there  perhaps 
>>a
>>website with a step by step or does anyone have a link to a in depth
>>detailed 'how-to' discussion?
>
>Here's what I invented on my own:
>
>- After the head shape is finished, I then put down a thin layer of
>batting over the plastic mesh and foam rubber (actually, I use floor
>heat register filter pads) which provides that soft give of real flesh
>just before the firmer foam underneath (and it covers any plastic mesh
>and any lumps in the foam).  I attach that to the foam rubber using
>Super 77 and let it dry completely for a few days.
>
>- Then, I start attaching the fur to that batting layer, again using
>Super 77.  I take care to (a) fit the fur pieces in place first, (b)
>spray only the batting, never the fur, and (c) ventilate, ventilate,
>ventilate.  If I get the glue too thick on the batting, I let it dry
>first before I come back and try again.  Otherwise, pressing the fur
>down to the thick glue can cause the glue to come up through the fur
>fabric and glue the fur together.
>
>--
>"I guess I like board games more than most people. And by that I mean
>I like playing board games more than most people do, and I like board
>games more than I like most people." - Strong Sad, homestarrunner.com
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From furrycouple at hotmail.com  Tue Feb 27 07:04:13 2007
From: furrycouple at hotmail.com (Johara Saluki)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 05:04:13 -0700
Subject: FL: working on first suit
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-F8AABFE99A87DB49218EA1B1820@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY109-F28358CD153D34B4D6F44B4A5820@phx.gbl>

Niiku........would you happen to have any of the 3" pile in a tan - beige? 
If so, would you be willing to sell some of it. I have been searching high 
and low for shag this long, but to no avail so far. I notice that monterey 
only sells in rolls....I only need about 3 - 4 feet.
Jo


>From: "Lisa Smith" <daspony at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: Re: FL: working on first suit
>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:44:11 -0500
>
>http://www.montereymills.com/Catalog_i1375565.html?catId=59348
>
>That's Monterey Mills, and the link will take you right to their "white 
>fox" fur. That's a 3 inch pile, and it's fabulous stuff, I've got a bunch 
>right now I'm working with.
>
>~Niiku
>
>
>>From: John Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz>
>>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>>Subject: Re: FL: working on first suit
>>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:35:31 -0500
>>
>>Thanks, you guys, fur all your help -I definitely feel better about  
>>proceeding -was just starting to feel like 'what have I got myself  into 
>>here' lol!
>>
>>last question - well fur now lol
>>
>>where to find fur with a really really long pile -like 3 -4 inches?
>>
>>I actually bought a huge piece ten years ago from Sage's fabrics when  i 
>>lived in massachusetts before I got into fursuiting (I used it as a  dern 
>>blanket) so I know it exists as someone out there makes it. (i'd  be using 
>>it now but I actually threw it out a few years back since it  got funky in 
>>my basement -drat)
>>I've got some great samples from distinctivefabric.com and I'll  probably 
>>be making an order with them for various colors -but the  white, 3 inch 
>>pile eludes me.
>>If anyone has an idea -please let me know -thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>Fox =^_^=
>>John Fox Kinsman
>>fox at flyingfox.biz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Feb 26, 2007, at 7:39 PM, Blackberry wrote:
>>
>>On 2/26/07, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
>>>Hello all!
>>>
>>>I'm making my first suit and I'm flying blind (well almost -made a  
>>>really
>>>crappy half suit about 13 years ago).
>>>I've made the head out of those 1" foam sheets and carved the shape  out.
>>>I'm wondering the best way to go about attaching the fur fabric to  it to 
>>>get
>>>the proper curves on the muzzle and cheeks -sew? glue?  is there  perhaps 
>>>a
>>>website with a step by step or does anyone have a link to a in depth
>>>detailed 'how-to' discussion?
>>
>>Here's what I invented on my own:
>>
>>- After the head shape is finished, I then put down a thin layer of
>>batting over the plastic mesh and foam rubber (actually, I use floor
>>heat register filter pads) which provides that soft give of real flesh
>>just before the firmer foam underneath (and it covers any plastic mesh
>>and any lumps in the foam).  I attach that to the foam rubber using
>>Super 77 and let it dry completely for a few days.
>>
>>- Then, I start attaching the fur to that batting layer, again using
>>Super 77.  I take care to (a) fit the fur pieces in place first, (b)
>>spray only the batting, never the fur, and (c) ventilate, ventilate,
>>ventilate.  If I get the glue too thick on the batting, I let it dry
>>first before I come back and try again.  Otherwise, pressing the fur
>>down to the thick glue can cause the glue to come up through the fur
>>fabric and glue the fur together.
>>
>>--
>>"I guess I like board games more than most people. And by that I mean
>>I like playing board games more than most people do, and I like board
>>games more than I like most people." - Strong Sad, homestarrunner.com
>>_______________________________________________
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From daspony at hotmail.com  Tue Feb 27 07:07:22 2007
From: daspony at hotmail.com (Lisa Smith)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:07:22 -0500
Subject: FL: working on first suit
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-F28358CD153D34B4D6F44B4A5820@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY113-F364921A61A47335D7CDEB5B1820@phx.gbl>

Nope, I've only got white, sorry.

~Niiku


>From: "Johara Saluki" <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: Re: FL: working on first suit
>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 05:04:13 -0700
>
>Niiku........would you happen to have any of the 3" pile in a tan - beige? 
>If so, would you be willing to sell some of it. I have been searching high 
>and low for shag this long, but to no avail so far. I notice that monterey 
>only sells in rolls....I only need about 3 - 4 feet.
>Jo
>
>
>>From: "Lisa Smith" <daspony at hotmail.com>
>>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>>Subject: Re: FL: working on first suit
>>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:44:11 -0500
>>
>>http://www.montereymills.com/Catalog_i1375565.html?catId=59348
>>
>>That's Monterey Mills, and the link will take you right to their "white 
>>fox" fur. That's a 3 inch pile, and it's fabulous stuff, I've got a bunch 
>>right now I'm working with.
>>
>>~Niiku
>>
>>
>>>From: John Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz>
>>>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>>>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>>>Subject: Re: FL: working on first suit
>>>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:35:31 -0500
>>>
>>>Thanks, you guys, fur all your help -I definitely feel better about  
>>>proceeding -was just starting to feel like 'what have I got myself  into 
>>>here' lol!
>>>
>>>last question - well fur now lol
>>>
>>>where to find fur with a really really long pile -like 3 -4 inches?
>>>
>>>I actually bought a huge piece ten years ago from Sage's fabrics when  i 
>>>lived in massachusetts before I got into fursuiting (I used it as a  dern 
>>>blanket) so I know it exists as someone out there makes it. (i'd  be 
>>>using it now but I actually threw it out a few years back since it  got 
>>>funky in my basement -drat)
>>>I've got some great samples from distinctivefabric.com and I'll  probably 
>>>be making an order with them for various colors -but the  white, 3 inch 
>>>pile eludes me.
>>>If anyone has an idea -please let me know -thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Fox =^_^=
>>>John Fox Kinsman
>>>fox at flyingfox.biz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Feb 26, 2007, at 7:39 PM, Blackberry wrote:
>>>
>>>On 2/26/07, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
>>>>Hello all!
>>>>
>>>>I'm making my first suit and I'm flying blind (well almost -made a  
>>>>really
>>>>crappy half suit about 13 years ago).
>>>>I've made the head out of those 1" foam sheets and carved the shape  
>>>>out.
>>>>I'm wondering the best way to go about attaching the fur fabric to  it 
>>>>to get
>>>>the proper curves on the muzzle and cheeks -sew? glue?  is there  
>>>>perhaps a
>>>>website with a step by step or does anyone have a link to a in depth
>>>>detailed 'how-to' discussion?
>>>
>>>Here's what I invented on my own:
>>>
>>>- After the head shape is finished, I then put down a thin layer of
>>>batting over the plastic mesh and foam rubber (actually, I use floor
>>>heat register filter pads) which provides that soft give of real flesh
>>>just before the firmer foam underneath (and it covers any plastic mesh
>>>and any lumps in the foam).  I attach that to the foam rubber using
>>>Super 77 and let it dry completely for a few days.
>>>
>>>- Then, I start attaching the fur to that batting layer, again using
>>>Super 77.  I take care to (a) fit the fur pieces in place first, (b)
>>>spray only the batting, never the fur, and (c) ventilate, ventilate,
>>>ventilate.  If I get the glue too thick on the batting, I let it dry
>>>first before I come back and try again.  Otherwise, pressing the fur
>>>down to the thick glue can cause the glue to come up through the fur
>>>fabric and glue the fur together.
>>>
>>>--
>>>"I guess I like board games more than most people. And by that I mean
>>>I like playing board games more than most people do, and I like board
>>>games more than I like most people." - Strong Sad, homestarrunner.com
>>>_______________________________________________
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Tue Feb 27 08:00:08 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:00:08 -0500
Subject: FL: working on first suit
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-F8AABFE99A87DB49218EA1B1820@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY113-F8AABFE99A87DB49218EA1B1820@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <3E6A9A6F-55B5-4C63-A653-21323B178927@flyingfox.biz>

Niiku,

Saweet!  That's gotta be the same stuff I bought years ago - I  
remember it was on a roll.  Gadzooks though I only need 5 yards -I'm  
going to email them about retailers they sell to.  Would you happen  
to have five yards you need to get rid of? Let me know ;)
Thanks!


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:44 AM, Lisa Smith wrote:

http://www.montereymills.com/Catalog_i1375565.html?catId=59348

That's Monterey Mills, and the link will take you right to their  
"white fox" fur. That's a 3 inch pile, and it's fabulous stuff, I've  
got a bunch right now I'm working with.

~Niiku


> From: John Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz>
> Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: working on first suit
> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:35:31 -0500
>
> Thanks, you guys, fur all your help -I definitely feel better  
> about  proceeding -was just starting to feel like 'what have I got  
> myself  into here' lol!
>
> last question - well fur now lol
>
> where to find fur with a really really long pile -like 3 -4 inches?
>
> I actually bought a huge piece ten years ago from Sage's fabrics  
> when  i lived in massachusetts before I got into fursuiting (I used  
> it as a  dern blanket) so I know it exists as someone out there  
> makes it. (i'd  be using it now but I actually threw it out a few  
> years back since it  got funky in my basement -drat)
> I've got some great samples from distinctivefabric.com and I'll   
> probably be making an order with them for various colors -but the   
> white, 3 inch pile eludes me.
> If anyone has an idea -please let me know -thanks!
>
>
>
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> fox at flyingfox.biz
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 26, 2007, at 7:39 PM, Blackberry wrote:
>
> On 2/26/07, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
>> Hello all!
>>
>> I'm making my first suit and I'm flying blind (well almost -made  
>> a  really
>> crappy half suit about 13 years ago).
>> I've made the head out of those 1" foam sheets and carved the  
>> shape  out.
>> I'm wondering the best way to go about attaching the fur fabric  
>> to  it to get
>> the proper curves on the muzzle and cheeks -sew? glue?  is there   
>> perhaps a
>> website with a step by step or does anyone have a link to a in depth
>> detailed 'how-to' discussion?
>
> Here's what I invented on my own:
>
> - After the head shape is finished, I then put down a thin layer of
> batting over the plastic mesh and foam rubber (actually, I use floor
> heat register filter pads) which provides that soft give of real flesh
> just before the firmer foam underneath (and it covers any plastic mesh
> and any lumps in the foam).  I attach that to the foam rubber using
> Super 77 and let it dry completely for a few days.
>
> - Then, I start attaching the fur to that batting layer, again using
> Super 77.  I take care to (a) fit the fur pieces in place first, (b)
> spray only the batting, never the fur, and (c) ventilate, ventilate,
> ventilate.  If I get the glue too thick on the batting, I let it dry
> first before I come back and try again.  Otherwise, pressing the fur
> down to the thick glue can cause the glue to come up through the fur
> fabric and glue the fur together.
>
> --
> "I guess I like board games more than most people. And by that I mean
> I like playing board games more than most people do, and I like board
> games more than I like most people." - Strong Sad, homestarrunner.com
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From rsg0910 at iglou.com  Tue Feb 27 08:53:44 2007
From: rsg0910 at iglou.com (Robert Goodwin)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:53:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: FL: working on first suit
In-Reply-To: <no.id> from "Fox Kinsman" at Feb 27, 2007 08:00:08 AM
Message-ID: <E1HM2m1-0007S4-1l@shell1.iglou.com>

> Saweet!  That's gotta be the same stuff I bought years ago - I
> remember it was on a roll.  Gadzooks though I only need 5 yards -I'm
> going to email them about retailers they sell to.  Would you happen
> to have five yards you need to get rid of? Let me know ;)

You may want to check with Hancock Fabrics. They can order what you want 
if you give them enough information. I should know, as I used to work at a 
Hancock Fabrics awhile ago.

But beware that some other fabric places can be hit or miss. Another 
person mentioned doing the 'grand tour' of most of the fabric stores in 
your city. Strangely enough, though it doesn't often happen, you may find 
some at thrifts/resales.

Funnily enough, I remarked to someone that complained that the lab at 
their workplace is cold enough to wear winter jackets in that I could make 
them a furry jumpsuit. What did they say? "Make one!" Make one I will... 
Attached paws, etc... I wonder what the coworkers will say.

*evyl laff*

-boogi-
[heading back to the books, getting ready for midterms]

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From tim1 at timduru.org  Tue Feb 27 08:59:44 2007
From: tim1 at timduru.org (tim1 at timduru.org)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:59:44 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: FL: FursuitTV - 1st anniversary this saturday
Message-ID: <20070227135449.F39867@j3.timduru.org>


Yeah, It's finally that time,
one year already that the show has been running :o)

The 1st anniversary show will be a best-of taken from the previous shows,
mixed with some new videos, and mix of mixes ;)
If everything goes well I'll also premiere my new FC2007 mix,
or at least its beta version if I can't finish in time ;)


And for those who don't know about it , shame on you ;)
You've missed one year of show already.
http://fursuittv.timduru.org

So for those who've never heard of it:
FursuitTV is a monthly show streamed online, showing a mix of various
fursuit / costume videos from many different sources.
Made by a fan for fursuiters and fans, the show also uses an irc
channel for viewers to join and talk about what they see and exchange
experiences and ideas, and it usually brings quite a few nice talks amongs
fans :)

So even if the show is available for download shortly after the airing,
don't be lazy and join the fun in the IRC channel, it's one of the main
goal of the show to bring fursuiters and fans together for a friendly talk
about their favorite subjects that the show will bring in their mind. :)


So for those interested, tune in next saturday, and spread the word ! :)
The more to watch and join on IRC the more fun :)
See the webpage for all the details :)

Until then if you have questions or remarks
don't hesitate to ask me,
and feel free to connect to the
test loop running, so that you have
your player ready for saturday :)


From snglspdcat at gmail.com  Tue Feb 27 09:50:42 2007
From: snglspdcat at gmail.com (single speed cheeta)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:50:42 -0500
Subject: FL: FursuitTV - 1st anniversary this saturday
In-Reply-To: <20070227135449.F39867@j3.timduru.org>
References: <20070227135449.F39867@j3.timduru.org>
Message-ID: <c23fb4800702270650va4e1b5ak8784fa405bb6f8eb@mail.gmail.com>

One year? Already?! Wow.

Congrats Tim!

Keep'um coming. They're great!

Cheers,

Single Speedy

On 2/27/07, tim1 at timduru.org <tim1 at timduru.org> wrote:
>
>
> Yeah, It's finally that time,
> one year already that the show has been running :o)
>
> The 1st anniversary show will be a best-of taken from the previous shows,
> mixed with some new videos, and mix of mixes ;)
> If everything goes well I'll also premiere my new FC2007 mix,
> or at least its beta version if I can't finish in time ;)
>
>
>
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From melnoth2002 at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 27 09:54:14 2007
From: melnoth2002 at yahoo.com (sergio romero)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:54:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: FursuitTV - 1st anniversary this saturday
Message-ID: <663260.69239.qm@web56508.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

congratulation for 1 st anniversaty 

----- Mensaje original ----
De: "tim1 at timduru.org" <tim1 at timduru.org>
Para: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Enviado: martes, 27 de febrero, 2007 10:59:44
Asunto: FL: FursuitTV - 1st anniversary this saturday


Yeah, It's finally that time,
one year already that the show has been running :o)

The 1st anniversary show will be a best-of taken from the previous shows,
mixed with some new videos, and mix of mixes ;)
If everything goes well I'll also premiere my new FC2007 mix,
or at least its beta version if I can't finish in time ;)


And for those who don't know about it , shame on you ;)
You've missed one year of show already.
http://fursuittv.timduru.org

So for those who've never heard of it:
FursuitTV is a monthly show streamed online, showing a mix of various
fursuit / costume videos from many different sources.
Made by a fan for fursuiters and fans, the show also uses an irc
channel for viewers to join and talk about what they see and exchange
experiences and ideas, and it usually brings quite a few nice talks amongs
fans :)

So even if the show is available for download shortly after the airing,
don't be lazy and join the fun in the IRC channel, it's one of the main
goal of the show to bring fursuiters and fans together for a friendly talk
about their favorite subjects that the show will bring in their mind. :)


So for those interested, tune in next saturday, and spread the word ! :)
The more to watch and join on IRC the more fun :)
See the webpage for all the details :)

Until then if you have questions or remarks
don't hesitate to ask me,
and feel free to connect to the
test loop running, so that you have
your player ready for saturday :)

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From daspony at hotmail.com  Tue Feb 27 13:47:18 2007
From: daspony at hotmail.com (Lisa Smith)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:47:18 -0500
Subject: FL: working on first suit
In-Reply-To: <3E6A9A6F-55B5-4C63-A653-21323B178927@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <BAY113-F33924C7419BA3F6A8603AAB1820@phx.gbl>

Haha no, I've only got a yard and a half right now, I got it from a friend 
who had ordered a couple rolls several months ago.

~Niiku


>From: Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: Re: FL: working on first suit
>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:00:08 -0500
>
>Niiku,
>
>Saweet!  That's gotta be the same stuff I bought years ago - I  remember it 
>was on a roll.  Gadzooks though I only need 5 yards -I'm  going to email 
>them about retailers they sell to.  Would you happen  to have five yards 
>you need to get rid of? Let me know ;)
>Thanks!
>
>
>Fox =^_^=
>John Fox Kinsman
>www.flyingfox.biz
>
>
>
>On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:44 AM, Lisa Smith wrote:
>
>http://www.montereymills.com/Catalog_i1375565.html?catId=59348
>
>That's Monterey Mills, and the link will take you right to their  "white 
>fox" fur. That's a 3 inch pile, and it's fabulous stuff, I've  got a bunch 
>right now I'm working with.
>
>~Niiku
>
>
>>From: John Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz>
>>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>>Subject: Re: FL: working on first suit
>>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:35:31 -0500
>>
>>Thanks, you guys, fur all your help -I definitely feel better  about  
>>proceeding -was just starting to feel like 'what have I got  myself  into 
>>here' lol!
>>
>>last question - well fur now lol
>>
>>where to find fur with a really really long pile -like 3 -4 inches?
>>
>>I actually bought a huge piece ten years ago from Sage's fabrics  when  i 
>>lived in massachusetts before I got into fursuiting (I used  it as a  dern 
>>blanket) so I know it exists as someone out there  makes it. (i'd  be 
>>using it now but I actually threw it out a few  years back since it  got 
>>funky in my basement -drat)
>>I've got some great samples from distinctivefabric.com and I'll   probably 
>>be making an order with them for various colors -but the   white, 3 inch 
>>pile eludes me.
>>If anyone has an idea -please let me know -thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>Fox =^_^=
>>John Fox Kinsman
>>fox at flyingfox.biz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Feb 26, 2007, at 7:39 PM, Blackberry wrote:
>>
>>On 2/26/07, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
>>>Hello all!
>>>
>>>I'm making my first suit and I'm flying blind (well almost -made  a  
>>>really
>>>crappy half suit about 13 years ago).
>>>I've made the head out of those 1" foam sheets and carved the  shape  
>>>out.
>>>I'm wondering the best way to go about attaching the fur fabric  to  it 
>>>to get
>>>the proper curves on the muzzle and cheeks -sew? glue?  is there   
>>>perhaps a
>>>website with a step by step or does anyone have a link to a in depth
>>>detailed 'how-to' discussion?
>>
>>Here's what I invented on my own:
>>
>>- After the head shape is finished, I then put down a thin layer of
>>batting over the plastic mesh and foam rubber (actually, I use floor
>>heat register filter pads) which provides that soft give of real flesh
>>just before the firmer foam underneath (and it covers any plastic mesh
>>and any lumps in the foam).  I attach that to the foam rubber using
>>Super 77 and let it dry completely for a few days.
>>
>>- Then, I start attaching the fur to that batting layer, again using
>>Super 77.  I take care to (a) fit the fur pieces in place first, (b)
>>spray only the batting, never the fur, and (c) ventilate, ventilate,
>>ventilate.  If I get the glue too thick on the batting, I let it dry
>>first before I come back and try again.  Otherwise, pressing the fur
>>down to the thick glue can cause the glue to come up through the fur
>>fabric and glue the fur together.
>>
>>--
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>>I like playing board games more than most people do, and I like board
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From santafox at comcast.net  Tue Feb 27 14:04:43 2007
From: santafox at comcast.net (Santa Fox)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:04:43 +0000
Subject: FL: working on first suit
Message-ID: <022720071904.2610.45E480CB0006BE5D00000A3222007613949801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>

> >
> >http://www.montereymills.com/Catalog_i1375565.html?catId=59348
> >
> >That's Monterey Mills, and the link will take you right to their  "white 
> >fox" fur. That's a 3 inch pile, and it's fabulous stuff, I've  got a bunch 
> >right now I'm working with.

> >was on a roll.  Gadzooks though I only need 5 yards -I'm  going to email 
> >them about retailers they sell to.  Would you happen  to have five yards 

Check out CR's Crafts - www.crscrafts.com - they retail Monterey Mills faux furs and have good prices and good service.   You can order a full set of sample cards for about $20 I think.

Cheers,
Santa Fox

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From: Mediarod at aol.com (Mediarod at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:11:49 EST
Subject: FL: Working on FurSuit
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From daspony at hotmail.com  Tue Feb 27 15:20:02 2007
From: daspony at hotmail.com (Lisa Smith)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:20:02 -0500
Subject: FL: Working on FurSuit
In-Reply-To: <ce6.9dad84a.3315dc75@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY113-F1089E75539A3D89DC3D0AAB1820@phx.gbl>

You may have subscribed some time ago and forgotten, or someone mistakenly 
put in your email address when they subscribed. This is a mailing group 
about costuming.

If you were subscribed by accident and you dont want to be sent these 
messages anymore, go to this url: 
http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list  and unsubscribe 
yourself.

~Niiku


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From chameleon264 at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 27 18:31:32 2007
From: chameleon264 at yahoo.com (Black Foot)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:31:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: FursuitTV - 1st anniversary this saturday
In-Reply-To: <20070227135449.F39867@j3.timduru.org>
Message-ID: <97323.46120.qm@web56908.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

what time are you gonna air the fursuitTV so I can join and watch it since I saw some of it the last time.

tim1 at timduru.org wrote:  
Yeah, It's finally that time,
one year already that the show has been running :o)

The 1st anniversary show will be a best-of taken from the previous shows,
mixed with some new videos, and mix of mixes ;)
If everything goes well I'll also premiere my new FC2007 mix,
or at least its beta version if I can't finish in time ;)


And for those who don't know about it , shame on you ;)
You've missed one year of show already.
http://fursuittv.timduru.org

So for those who've never heard of it:
FursuitTV is a monthly show streamed online, showing a mix of various
fursuit / costume videos from many different sources.
Made by a fan for fursuiters and fans, the show also uses an irc
channel for viewers to join and talk about what they see and exchange
experiences and ideas, and it usually brings quite a few nice talks amongs
fans :)

So even if the show is available for download shortly after the airing,
don't be lazy and join the fun in the IRC channel, it's one of the main
goal of the show to bring fursuiters and fans together for a friendly talk
about their favorite subjects that the show will bring in their mind. :)


So for those interested, tune in next saturday, and spread the word ! :)
The more to watch and join on IRC the more fun :)
See the webpage for all the details :)

Until then if you have questions or remarks
don't hesitate to ask me,
and feel free to connect to the
test loop running, so that you have
your player ready for saturday :)

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From tim1 at timduru.org  Wed Feb 28 03:04:47 2007
From: tim1 at timduru.org (tim1 at timduru.org)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:04:47 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: FL: FursuitTV - 1st anniversary this saturday
In-Reply-To: <97323.46120.qm@web56908.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <97323.46120.qm@web56908.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20070228080137.Y31596@j3.timduru.org>

The airing time is 10pm GMT,
so it would depends where you are located :)

In France it's 11pm
in US-East coast it is 5pm

The show will replay after the first airing.
But for the IRC talks, it's mostly busy during the first broadcast. :)


On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Black Foot wrote:

> what time are you gonna air the fursuitTV so I can join and watch it since I saw some of it the last time.

From alexis at fursuit.dk  Wed Feb 28 04:10:13 2007
From: alexis at fursuit.dk (Alexis)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:10:13 +0100
Subject: FL: FursuitTV - 1st anniversary this saturday
In-Reply-To: <20070228080137.Y31596@j3.timduru.org>
References: <97323.46120.qm@web56908.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<20070228080137.Y31596@j3.timduru.org>
Message-ID: <4025d9ef0702280110p7fb9db89sf35766369d155277@mail.gmail.com>

Ah yes, one year already... time flies doesn't it? ... Once again
thanks for the great show tim :)

Also, to the people who keep forgetting Fursuit TV (Like myself),
there is a Google Calendar of the same name for reminder purposes
("Fursuit TV").

=Alexis

On 2/28/07, tim1 at timduru.org <tim1 at timduru.org> wrote:
> The airing time is 10pm GMT,
> so it would depends where you are located :)
>
> In France it's 11pm
> in US-East coast it is 5pm
>
> The show will replay after the first airing.
> But for the IRC talks, it's mostly busy during the first broadcast. :)
>
>
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Black Foot wrote:
>
> > what time are you gonna air the fursuitTV so I can join and watch it since I saw some of it the last time.
> _______________________________________________
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From tim1 at timduru.org  Wed Feb 28 04:14:04 2007
From: tim1 at timduru.org (tim1 at timduru.org)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:14:04 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: FL: FursuitTV - 1st anniversary this saturday
In-Reply-To: <4025d9ef0702280110p7fb9db89sf35766369d155277@mail.gmail.com>
References: <97323.46120.qm@web56908.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<20070228080137.Y31596@j3.timduru.org>
	<4025d9ef0702280110p7fb9db89sf35766369d155277@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070228091246.J33344@j3.timduru.org>


ah yeah google calendar,
or just subscribe to the fursuit archive livejournal feed.
http://www.livejournal.com/users/fursuitarchive/info
I post a reminder there a few days before :)


On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Alexis wrote:

> Ah yes, one year already... time flies doesn't it? ... Once again
> thanks for the great show tim :)
>
> Also, to the people who keep forgetting Fursuit TV (Like myself),
> there is a Google Calendar of the same name for reminder purposes
> ("Fursuit TV").
>
> =Alexis
>
> On 2/28/07, tim1 at timduru.org <tim1 at timduru.org> wrote:
> > The airing time is 10pm GMT,
> > so it would depends where you are located :)
> >
> > In France it's 11pm
> > in US-East coast it is 5pm
> >
> > The show will replay after the first airing.
> > But for the IRC talks, it's mostly busy during the first broadcast. :)
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Black Foot wrote:
> >
> > > what time are you gonna air the fursuitTV so I can join and watch it since I saw some of it the last time.
> > _______________________________________________
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From superhedgie at googlemail.com  Wed Feb 28 10:21:06 2007
From: superhedgie at googlemail.com (Super BH)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:21:06 -0000
Subject: FL: Shoes
Message-ID: <001f01c75b4c$11b2ef90$0c00000a@NoobSaibot>

Hi all.

Does anyone know of a Fursuit designer who would be able to make some foot paws that look like Army Boots? Most suits, I know, have 'naked' feet, but my character wears big, chunky shoes. I don't really want to change the way he looks, so can anyone point me to someone, or somewhere, that could help me out?

Thanks,

Hedgie
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From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Wed Feb 28 10:37:27 2007
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:37:27 +0000
Subject: FL: FursuitTV - 1st anniversary this saturday
In-Reply-To: <20070228080137.Y31596@j3.timduru.org>
Message-ID: <BAY101-F9AF48B17A28AA25DB026BA9810@phx.gbl>

Whats the time does FTV start in mountain time in the US?


>From: tim1 at timduru.org
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: Re: FL: FursuitTV - 1st anniversary this saturday
>Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:04:47 +0000 (GMT)
>
>The airing time is 10pm GMT,
>so it would depends where you are located :)
>
>In France it's 11pm
>in US-East coast it is 5pm
>
>The show will replay after the first airing.
>But for the IRC talks, it's mostly busy during the first broadcast. :)
>
>
>On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Black Foot wrote:
>
> > what time are you gonna air the fursuitTV so I can join and watch it 
>since I saw some of it the last time.
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From alexis at fursuit.dk  Wed Feb 28 10:52:41 2007
From: alexis at fursuit.dk (Alexis)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:52:41 +0100
Subject: FL: FursuitTV - 1st anniversary this saturday
In-Reply-To: <BAY101-F9AF48B17A28AA25DB026BA9810@phx.gbl>
References: <20070228080137.Y31596@j3.timduru.org>
	<BAY101-F9AF48B17A28AA25DB026BA9810@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4025d9ef0702280752kf2b5b1fyfc52da8eda9e730a@mail.gmail.com>

Starts at 10pm CET, so:

Central European Time: UTC+1
Mountain Time Zone: UTC-7

So that would be 2pm, unless my high school math is failing again :)

On 2/28/07, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:
> Whats the time does FTV start in mountain time in the US?
>
>
> >From: tim1 at timduru.org
> >Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> >To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> >Subject: Re: FL: FursuitTV - 1st anniversary this saturday
> >Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:04:47 +0000 (GMT)
> >
> >The airing time is 10pm GMT,
> >so it would depends where you are located :)
> >
> >In France it's 11pm
> >in US-East coast it is 5pm
> >
> >The show will replay after the first airing.
> >But for the IRC talks, it's mostly busy during the first broadcast. :)
> >
> >
> >On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Black Foot wrote:
> >
> > > what time are you gonna air the fursuitTV so I can join and watch it
> >since I saw some of it the last time.
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Thu Mar  1 07:51:45 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:51:45 -0500
Subject: FL: headfur
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References: <022720071904.2610.45E480CB0006BE5D00000A3222007613949801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <661DF68C-3AEA-482F-855B-C11F6386480A@flyingfox.biz>

I've seen quite a few great suits with poofy headfur similar to say,  
LatinVixen.  Where do you find that particular stuff and what is is  
it called?

Spark


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
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From dia at critter.net  Thu Mar  1 17:53:49 2007
From: dia at critter.net (dia at critter.net)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:53:49 -0600 (CST)
Subject: FL: headfur
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1172768402.10541.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
References: <mailman.5.1172768402.10541.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
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Do you mean such as the fur hair on my skunk?:
http://www.chameleon.net/~diadexxus/godiva/finished/akitainus_mff2006_665.jpg

If so, you can get it at Distinctive Fabrics:
http://www.distinctivefabric.com/fabric.php?product=SLDLGHRFUR1

Enjoy!
-J / Dia



> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:51:45 -0500
> From: Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz>
> Subject: FL: headfur
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Message-ID: <661DF68C-3AEA-482F-855B-C11F6386480A at flyingfox.biz>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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>
> I've seen quite a few great suits with poofy headfur similar to say,
> LatinVixen.  Where do you find that particular stuff and what is is
> it called?
>
> Spark
>
>
>
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> www.flyingfox.biz



From fox at flyingfox.biz  Thu Mar  1 18:12:42 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (John Fox Kinsman)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:12:42 -0500
Subject: FL: headfur
In-Reply-To: <7828.67.155.111.199.1172789629.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
References: <mailman.5.1172768402.10541.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<7828.67.155.111.199.1172789629.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
Message-ID: <540FA5A9-DFA1-4E2F-929C-4AE8660FB232@flyingfox.biz>

Nice to meet you, Godiva Skunk ;)

Sweet - so it's just the long pile fur sewn into a poofy shape - 
coolbeans, I think I can handle that =)

Thanks!

Spark




On Mar 1, 2007, at 5:53 PM, dia at critter.net wrote:

Do you mean such as the fur hair on my skunk?:
http://www.chameleon.net/~diadexxus/godiva/finished/ 
akitainus_mff2006_665.jpg

If so, you can get it at Distinctive Fabrics:
http://www.distinctivefabric.com/fabric.php?product=SLDLGHRFUR1

Enjoy!
-J / Dia



> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:51:45 -0500
> From: Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz>
> Subject: FL: headfur
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Message-ID: <661DF68C-3AEA-482F-855B-C11F6386480A at flyingfox.biz>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
> I've seen quite a few great suits with poofy headfur similar to say,
> LatinVixen.  Where do you find that particular stuff and what is is
> it called?
>
> Spark
>
>
>
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> www.flyingfox.biz


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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Sun Mar  4 08:40:39 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (John Fox Kinsman)
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 08:40:39 -0500
Subject: FL: North Carolina fursuiters?
In-Reply-To: <540FA5A9-DFA1-4E2F-929C-4AE8660FB232@flyingfox.biz>
References: <mailman.5.1172768402.10541.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<7828.67.155.111.199.1172789629.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
	<540FA5A9-DFA1-4E2F-929C-4AE8660FB232@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <4BF64E4D-6C26-4069-8EDC-32E311295053@flyingfox.biz>

Hello!

I'm just wondering if there are any Fursuit makers or Fursuiters on  
the list from North Carolina.  I was making my suit with FWA in mind  
but I keep forgetting that there could be bowling and whatnot and the  
possibility of meeting new local friends.  Please let me know!

Thanks!

Spark

From fox at flyingfox.biz  Fri Mar  9 09:41:12 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:41:12 -0500
Subject: FL: Feet
In-Reply-To: <7828.67.155.111.199.1172789629.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
References: <mailman.5.1172768402.10541.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<7828.67.155.111.199.1172789629.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
Message-ID: <8723E9B4-E553-4430-9D21-3A66656A85EB@flyingfox.biz>

Wondering what ideas there are for making feet.  What's the best  
material for the sole?



Spark
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Fri Mar  9 10:15:03 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:15:03 -0500
Subject: FL: Am I doing something wrong?
In-Reply-To: <7828.67.155.111.199.1172789629.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
References: <mailman.5.1172768402.10541.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
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Message-ID: <31D793A3-A662-477D-8E6E-B806ADBF78BF@flyingfox.biz>

A little odd...

I never used to get this before (anyone else get these?) until about  
a week or two ago

whenever I email the list i get an email back that says

from mailserver @ flowercitypaging.com
subject Successful Message To ......



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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Fri Mar  9 12:52:28 2007
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:52:28 -0500
Subject: FL: Feet
In-Reply-To: <8723E9B4-E553-4430-9D21-3A66656A85EB@flyingfox.biz>
References: <mailman.5.1172768402.10541.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<7828.67.155.111.199.1172789629.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
	<8723E9B4-E553-4430-9D21-3A66656A85EB@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <577261b40703090952y6d57f33doe2c8e13a38563231@mail.gmail.com>

I personally use the fake leather, I have pretty good traction.  The
following link has pics of the construction of the feet for my suit.

http://www.foxwolfart.furtopia.org/Foxwolf%20comes%20to%20life/Paws%20construction/

The first three pictures are the most relevant.

Hope this helps. =^_^=

On 3/9/07, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
>
> Wondering what ideas there are for making feet.  What's the best material
> for the sole?
>
>
>
> Spark
>
>
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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Fri Mar  9 12:53:43 2007
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:53:43 -0500
Subject: FL: Am I doing something wrong?
In-Reply-To: <31D793A3-A662-477D-8E6E-B806ADBF78BF@flyingfox.biz>
References: <mailman.5.1172768402.10541.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<7828.67.155.111.199.1172789629.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
	<31D793A3-A662-477D-8E6E-B806ADBF78BF@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <577261b40703090953l2626106g61738682340a0ded@mail.gmail.com>

Hmm, never gotten that, I use gmail.  Must be something with your email
server.

That's my rough guess anyway.


On 3/9/07, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
>
>  A little odd...
>
>
> I never used to get this before (anyone else get these?) until about a
> week or two ago
>
>
> whenever I email the list i get an email back that says
>
>
> from mailserver @ flowercitypaging.com
> subject *Successful Message To ......*
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Spark
>
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From Karen.Upfront at shaw.ca  Fri Mar  9 12:56:32 2007
From: Karen.Upfront at shaw.ca (Upfront Mascots)
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 10:56:32 -0700
Subject: FL: Feet
References: <mailman.5.1172768402.10541.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<7828.67.155.111.199.1172789629.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
	<8723E9B4-E553-4430-9D21-3A66656A85EB@flyingfox.biz>
	<577261b40703090952y6d57f33doe2c8e13a38563231@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01f301c76274$45d90f50$6501a8c0@ownerafab910f5>

We use a rubber tread it is only available to companies, we use to use rubber floor matting. to find a good supplier for feet bottoms is always a change. We use a company called Rubex you may want to see if they sell by the piece. It is knobby one side 1/inch sheet rubber. 
karen UP Front Mascots
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Foxwolf 9-Tails 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:52 AM
  Subject: Re: FL: Feet


  I personally use the fake leather, I have pretty good traction.  The following link has pics of the construction of the feet for my suit.  
   
  http://www.foxwolfart.furtopia.org/Foxwolf%20comes%20to%20life/Paws%20construction/

  The first three pictures are the most relevant.

  Hope this helps. =^_^=
   
  On 3/9/07, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote: 
    Wondering what ideas there are for making feet.  What's the best material for the sole? 





     
    Spark
     

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From felinius.tigerclaw at gmail.com  Fri Mar  9 15:15:38 2007
From: felinius.tigerclaw at gmail.com (Felinius de Tigerclaw)
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:15:38 -0500
Subject: FL: That good ol' classic pattern
In-Reply-To: <c4c590d70702201446x194f90bcid5721cf9e3908c2c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20070220020105.36562.qmail@web51406.mail.yahoo.com>	<000901c754ba$b56cdfd0$0c00000a@NoobSaibot>
	<c4c590d70702201446x194f90bcid5721cf9e3908c2c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45F1C06A.4070808@gmail.com>

Kwik-Sew 2175 most likely...

Springmoon wrote:

>I couldn't find that one either, but I found a jumpsuit sleeper
>pattern thing that worked... Don't know the number of it right now,
>but I guess any one-piece pajama pattern would work, you'd just have
>to modify it.
>
>2/20/07, Super BH <superhedgie at googlemail.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>I think that Simplicity one was discontinued many years ago.
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Amorpheous E. Bunny" <mrbunny at mr-bunny.com>
>>To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 2:01 AM
>>Subject: Re: FL: That good ol' classic pattern
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>McCalls costumes #mp232
>>>Simplicity #9983
>>>
>>>
>>>--- John Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Hey all!
>>>>
>>>>Just got back from FWA (frikkin awesome btw!!) and
>>>>diving into
>>>>constructing my suit.  Got a good pair of scissors
>>>>and lots of muslin
>>>>but the darn Simplicity pattern that was widely
>>>>recommended at the
>>>>Fursuit construction 101 panel -where do you find
>>>>it?  our local
>>>>walmart has one for little kids and the McCall's
>>>>catalog had a lion
>>>>that looked cool but I was not sure at all if I
>>>>should get that since
>>>>I didn't hear it mentioned at the panel.  Please, if
>>>>anyone knows
>>>>what number the recommended Simplicity one is now
>>>>-let me know and
>>>>I'll go hunt it down and jump on it right away.
>>>>Thanks!!
>>>>
>>>>spark
>>>>
>>>>Fox =^_^=
>>>>John Fox Kinsman
>>>>fox at flyingfox.biz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
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From bigbadwolf40 at comcast.net  Fri Mar  9 17:25:35 2007
From: bigbadwolf40 at comcast.net (BigBadWolf40@comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 17:25:35 -0500
Subject: FL: Feet
In-Reply-To: <8723E9B4-E553-4430-9D21-3A66656A85EB@flyingfox.biz>
References: <7828.67.155.111.199.1172789629.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
Message-ID: <45F1988F.16624.A13E84C@bigbadwolf40.comcast.net>

Can't beat the look and feel of leather.. 

BBW

On 9 Mar 2007 at 9:41, Fox Kinsman wrote:

> Wondering what ideas there are for making feet.  What's the best 
> material for the sole?
> 
> 
> 
> Spark
> 



From bigbadwolf40 at comcast.net  Fri Mar  9 22:35:46 2007
From: bigbadwolf40 at comcast.net (BigBadWolf40@comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 22:35:46 -0500
Subject: FL: Am I doing something wrong?
In-Reply-To: <577261b40703090953l2626106g61738682340a0ded@mail.gmail.com>
References: <31D793A3-A662-477D-8E6E-B806ADBF78BF@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <45F1E142.31140.B30CF8A@bigbadwolf40.comcast.net>

I just got the same thing from my last post, perhaps the list has 
been hijacked somehow?

BBW


On 9 Mar 2007 at 12:53, Foxwolf 9-Tails wrote:

> Hmm, never gotten that, I use gmail.  Must be something with your
> email server.
> 
> That's my rough guess anyway.
> 
> 
> On 3/9/07, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
> >
> >  A little odd...
> >
> >
> > I never used to get this before (anyone else get these?) until about
> > a week or two ago
> >
> >
> > whenever I email the list i get an email back that says
> >
> >
> > from mailserver @ flowercitypaging.com
> > subject *Successful Message To ......*
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Spark
> >
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From Tripncheata at aol.com  Sat Mar 10 10:26:59 2007
From: Tripncheata at aol.com (Tripncheata at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 10:26:59 EST
Subject: FL: Feet
Message-ID: <cb5.bad2657.33242843@aol.com>

Ordering stuff is expensive some times. I use a simple but very effective 
method of a condensed foam that can be bought at any craft store Its called Craft 
Foam and comes in sheets and in almost any color and can with stand allot of 
abuse. Its pliable, shapable and can be hot glued to anything because the glue 
will cause part of it to melt and bond to the item being glued.
 
 
 
 
OmenVixen.
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Sat Mar 10 17:43:19 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (John Fox Kinsman)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 17:43:19 -0500
Subject: FL: Name Change
In-Reply-To: <45F1988F.16624.A13E84C@bigbadwolf40.comcast.net>
References: <7828.67.155.111.199.1172789629.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
	<45F1988F.16624.A13E84C@bigbadwolf40.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <B2447208-9E0D-41D5-845B-58C6E96F3C06@flyingfox.biz>

Hello all!

I wasn't sure for a while there whether this was relevant to the list  
but after some contemplation I think it may be something to post.
I was going by the name "Spark" as it is my character name on  
FurryMuck but I was made aware that there is another established  
Fursuit maker with that name so I apologize to you, Spark, and to the  
list for any confusion I may have caused.  Since I am really only  
going to have one suit for quite some time I thought I might go by my  
new fursuit character's name, "Scape".
Sorry fur the trouble and thanks for all of your help and patience  
with a newbie!

- Scape

;)


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
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From rufuswolf77 at hotmail.com  Mon Mar 12 03:05:17 2007
From: rufuswolf77 at hotmail.com (rufus wolf)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:05:17 -0500
Subject: FL: Feet
In-Reply-To: <8723E9B4-E553-4430-9D21-3A66656A85EB@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F31E0ECAD48FF7775557195BA7D0@phx.gbl>

Well,
  I went down to the local leather shop that I used to frequent,and he made 
sandals. He had sheets of thick,rubber he used for the soles after cut to 
shape. I bought some,but it wasnt cheap!! I'm thinking about thirty dollars 
for just enough to do two feet. Also,I know Vibram(the shoe solw maker)has 
sheets of a compressed foam rubber,but I still havent been able to come 
across it,although I ve seen many a paw made from it. Hope this helps,even 
alittle!!
Leto Wolfie


>From: Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: FL: Feet
>Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:41:12 -0500
>
>Wondering what ideas there are for making feet.  What's the best  material 
>for the sole?
>
>
>
>Spark


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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Mon Mar 12 08:07:31 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:07:31 -0400
Subject: FL: Feet
In-Reply-To: <8723E9B4-E553-4430-9D21-3A66656A85EB@flyingfox.biz>
References: <mailman.5.1172768402.10541.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<7828.67.155.111.199.1172789629.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
	<8723E9B4-E553-4430-9D21-3A66656A85EB@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <57620E07-88A7-452D-8F78-EBC509D6EC58@flyingfox.biz>

Thanks for all the cool ideas.  I've also discovered 3.00 black  
rubberized mousepads at walmart and wondered if anyones tried that?   
looks like it could last a good long while ;)



Scape



On Mar 9, 2007, at 9:41 AM, Fox Kinsman wrote:

Wondering what ideas there are for making feet.  What's the best  
material for the sole?



Spark
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From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Mon Mar 12 08:56:50 2007
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (Cyan FOX)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:56:50 -0400
Subject: FL: Feet
In-Reply-To: <57620E07-88A7-452D-8F78-EBC509D6EC58@flyingfox.biz>
References: <mailman.5.1172768402.10541.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<7828.67.155.111.199.1172789629.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
	<8723E9B4-E553-4430-9D21-3A66656A85EB@flyingfox.biz>
	<57620E07-88A7-452D-8F78-EBC509D6EC58@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <b1c118750703120556y26c564f7qc177bbea5cd2e335@mail.gmail.com>

speaking of mouse pads for tread, reminds me why i still use the one that
came with my Macintosh LC II ( circa 1993 ) it's in fabulous condition still
and i love the black rubbered matting on the bottom, it seems that all
"Modern" mousepads from dell,gateway,etal just decompose after a month of
use and this one is well  FROM 1993 xD  and still kicking :3

so yea try it out <3

On 3/12/07, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the cool ideas.  I've also discovered 3.00 black rubberized
> mousepads at walmart and wondered if anyones tried that?  looks like it
> could last a good long while ;)
>
>
> Scape
>
>
>
> On Mar 9, 2007, at 9:41 AM, Fox Kinsman wrote:
>
> Wondering what ideas there are for making feet.  What's the best material
> for the sole?
>
>
> Spark
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From jambrassard at earthlink.net  Mon Mar 12 23:38:10 2007
From: jambrassard at earthlink.net (Michel Brassard)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:38:10 -0400
Subject: FL: Primal Visions and Dense White Fur
Message-ID: <004301c76521$05bd32c0$6501a8c0@MICHELDESKTOP>

    Anybody know what happened to Primal Visions?  Are they still doing fursuit commissions?  Their website is down and the e-mail is bouncing back on me.

    On a separate note, I am looking for white fur in two-inch, but preferrabley three-inch pile that is also DENSE.  Some of this fur will be shaved down for around a muzzle, so it cannot be sparce.

    J. A. Michel Brassard - a.k.a. Michel Mephit
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From furrycouple at hotmail.com  Tue Mar 13 00:03:39 2007
From: furrycouple at hotmail.com (Johara Saluki)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:03:39 -0700
Subject: FL: Primal Visions and Dense White Fur
In-Reply-To: <004301c76521$05bd32c0$6501a8c0@MICHELDESKTOP>
Message-ID: <BAY109-F231620D34D63E80253307EA57C0@phx.gbl>

Where do you reside? If you are in Canada, Fabricland has a pretty good line 
of what you're looking for. I have some of the white you speak of.....great 
for airbrushing. Also, does it have to be true white...or can it be off a 
little? I had some off white in 3" that was so dense I could hardly comb it. 
Unfortunately, it was an end of the roll....not much there.


>From: "Michel Brassard" <jambrassard at earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: <fursuit-list at fursuit.org>
>Subject: FL: Primal Visions and Dense White Fur
>Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:38:10 -0400
>
>     Anybody know what happened to Primal Visions?  Are they still doing 
>fursuit commissions?  Their website is down and the e-mail is bouncing back 
>on me.
>
>     On a separate note, I am looking for white fur in two-inch, but 
>preferrabley three-inch pile that is also DENSE.  Some of this fur will be 
>shaved down for around a muzzle, so it cannot be sparce.
>
>     J. A. Michel Brassard - a.k.a. Michel Mephit


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From daspony at hotmail.com  Tue Mar 13 00:21:48 2007
From: daspony at hotmail.com (Lisa Smith)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:21:48 -0500
Subject: FL: Primal Visions and Dense White Fur
In-Reply-To: <004301c76521$05bd32c0$6501a8c0@MICHELDESKTOP>
Message-ID: <BAY113-F159EA500AF363E742B230BB17C0@phx.gbl>

I think what you're looking for is the Monterey Mills white fox fur. :3 I've 
got a bunch of that and it's really thick, real nice, and shaves down 
nicely, and it's also 3 3/8 inch pile. Just do a google search for "monterey 
mills" and you'll get their website.

Also, I have no clue what happened to Primal Visions, I tried looking at 
their site earlier today and it didnt work. :(

~Niiku


>From: "Michel Brassard" <jambrassard at earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: <fursuit-list at fursuit.org>
>Subject: FL: Primal Visions and Dense White Fur
>Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:38:10 -0400
>
>     Anybody know what happened to Primal Visions?  Are they still doing 
>fursuit commissions?  Their website is down and the e-mail is bouncing back 
>on me.
>
>     On a separate note, I am looking for white fur in two-inch, but 
>preferrabley three-inch pile that is also DENSE.  Some of this fur will be 
>shaved down for around a muzzle, so it cannot be sparce.
>
>     J. A. Michel Brassard - a.k.a. Michel Mephit


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From snglspdcat at gmail.com  Tue Mar 13 00:23:33 2007
From: snglspdcat at gmail.com (single speed cheeta)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:23:33 -0400
Subject: FL: Primal Visions and Dense White Fur
In-Reply-To: <004301c76521$05bd32c0$6501a8c0@MICHELDESKTOP>
References: <004301c76521$05bd32c0$6501a8c0@MICHELDESKTOP>
Message-ID: <c23fb4800703122123m102459c5q1e35e269cd20fc32@mail.gmail.com>

They are having server difficulties at the moment. Hang in there. They'll
get back to you as soon as things are up and going again.

Single Speedy

On 3/12/07, Michel Brassard <jambrassard at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>      Anybody know what happened to Primal Visions?  Are they still doing
> fursuit commissions?  Their website is down and the e-mail is bouncing back
> on me.
>
>
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From ysengrin at runningwolfpack.com  Tue Mar 13 00:22:16 2007
From: ysengrin at runningwolfpack.com (Ysengrin Blackpaw)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:22:16 -0700
Subject: FL: Primal Visions and Dense White Fur
In-Reply-To: <004301c76521$05bd32c0$6501a8c0@MICHELDESKTOP>
References: <004301c76521$05bd32c0$6501a8c0@MICHELDESKTOP>
Message-ID: <45F626F8.7020604@runningwolfpack.com>

Primal visions is fine - their website is having issues.

http://community.livejournal.com/primalvisions/14716.html

Michel Brassard wrote:
>     Anybody know what happened to Primal Visions?  Are they still 
> doing fursuit commissions?  Their website is down and the e-mail is 
> bouncing back on me.

-- 
Ysengrin Blackpaw
www.RunningWolfPack.com


From solion at comcast.net  Tue Mar 13 01:40:05 2007
From: solion at comcast.net (Lionel Vogt)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:40:05 -0400
Subject: FL: New tiger mask
References: <mailman.5.1172768402.10541.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org><7828.67.155.111.199.1172789629.squirrel@secure.critter.net><8723E9B4-E553-4430-9D21-3A66656A85EB@flyingfox.biz><57620E07-88A7-452D-8F78-EBC509D6EC58@flyingfox.biz>
	<b1c118750703120556y26c564f7qc177bbea5cd2e335@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <09db01c76532$19b8a550$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>

Here is my newest mask for UT, this one took allot out of me but he really came to life 

http://www.lionofthesun.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album23

Love to hear what you think 

LIonel 
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From jc2blion at taconic.net  Tue Mar 13 07:42:58 2007
From: jc2blion at taconic.net (Kamau)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:42:58 -0400
Subject: FL: New tiger mask
References: <mailman.5.1172768402.10541.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org><7828.67.155.111.199.1172789629.squirrel@secure.critter.net><8723E9B4-E553-4430-9D21-3A66656A85EB@flyingfox.biz><57620E07-88A7-452D-8F78-EBC509D6EC58@flyingfox.biz><b1c118750703120556y26c564f7qc177bbea5cd2e335@mail.gmail.com>
	<09db01c76532$19b8a550$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>
Message-ID: <004d01c76564$bfa90a90$0c00a8c0@Mufasa>

Very nice, as usual.  I had to chuckle at one photo however as the tiger 
appeared to be cross eyed.

Great work.

Kamau
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lionel Vogt" <solion at comcast.net>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 1:40 AM
Subject: FL: New tiger mask


Here is my newest mask for UT, this one took allot out of me but he really 
came to life

http://www.lionofthesun.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album23

Love to hear what you think

LIonel


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From auroaraedward at ywave.com  Tue Mar 13 02:48:28 2007
From: auroaraedward at ywave.com (Edward Eugene Smith)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:48:28 -0800
Subject: FL: New tiger mask
In-Reply-To: <09db01c76532$19b8a550$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>
References: <mailman.5.1172768402.10541.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org><7828.67.155.111.199.1172789629.squirrel@secure.critter.net><8723E9B4-E553-4430-9D21-3A66656A85EB@flyingfox.biz><57620E07-88A7-452D-8F78-EBC509D6EC58@flyingfox.biz>
	<b1c118750703120556y26c564f7qc177bbea5cd2e335@mail.gmail.com>
	<09db01c76532$19b8a550$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>
Message-ID: <D9BC5FCB-D12E-11DB-A56D-000A95D2D836@ywave.com>

Dag gum you're good!
Great with the eyes there. A true natural profile representing
Nature. Good tiger!

Edward
Lion of Yelm


On Mar 12, 2007, at 9:40 PM, Lionel Vogt wrote:

> Here is my newest mask for UT, this one took allot out of me but he  
> really came to life
>  ?
> http://www.lionofthesun.com/gallery/view_album.php? 
> set_albumName=album23
> ?
> Love to hear what you think
>  ?
> LIonel
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From kaa at anthrosaur.com  Tue Mar 13 13:34:39 2007
From: kaa at anthrosaur.com (Kaa Bakensobek)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:34:39 -0700
Subject: FL: Primal Visions and Dense White Fur
In-Reply-To: <004301c76521$05bd32c0$6501a8c0@MICHELDESKTOP>
References: <004301c76521$05bd32c0$6501a8c0@MICHELDESKTOP>
Message-ID: <45F6E0AF.6030300@anthrosaur.com>


Michel Brassard wrote:
>     Anybody know what happened to Primal Visions?  Are they still doing 
> fursuit commissions?  Their website is down and the e-mail is bouncing 
> back on me.

Their Livejournal has this entry...

"Just a quick FYI: Our website (http://www.primalvisions.com) and our email, is 
down. Please be patient, we have someone trying to figure out what happened. So, 
if you emailed us any time between Friday, March 9 and now, we might not have 
received it. When the webpage comes back up, you can email us again. Sorry for 
the inconvenience.

-Primal Visions Staff"

-- Kaa

          ."``"._.""-.         "I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my
        .'    _-._.-_`\         imagination. Imagination is more important than
     _.-|    (\).--(\)<         knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination
--'`  `       .="""=-.'.       encircles the world."
         _ '-.                                      -- Albert Einstein
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From denmoncaus at gmail.com  Tue Mar 13 17:49:48 2007
From: denmoncaus at gmail.com (lex f)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:49:48 -0400
Subject: FL: New tiger mask
In-Reply-To: <D9BC5FCB-D12E-11DB-A56D-000A95D2D836@ywave.com>
References: <mailman.5.1172768402.10541.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<7828.67.155.111.199.1172789629.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
	<8723E9B4-E553-4430-9D21-3A66656A85EB@flyingfox.biz>
	<57620E07-88A7-452D-8F78-EBC509D6EC58@flyingfox.biz>
	<b1c118750703120556y26c564f7qc177bbea5cd2e335@mail.gmail.com>
	<09db01c76532$19b8a550$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>
	<D9BC5FCB-D12E-11DB-A56D-000A95D2D836@ywave.com>
Message-ID: <b187d80c0703131449p2b9e700foe4902233a9344610@mail.gmail.com>

It's a very nice mask i like it.
On 3/13/07, Edward Eugene Smith <auroaraedward at ywave.com> wrote:
>
> Dag gum you're good!
> Great with the eyes there. A true natural profile representing
> Nature. Good tiger!
>
> Edward
> Lion of Yelm
>
>
> On Mar 12, 2007, at 9:40 PM, Lionel Vogt wrote:
>
> > Here is my newest mask for UT, this one took allot out of me but he
> > really came to life
> >
> > http://www.lionofthesun.com/gallery/view_album.php?
> > set_albumName=album23
> >
> > Love to hear what you think
> >
> > LIonel
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From dragonsfire867 at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 13 20:08:24 2007
From: dragonsfire867 at yahoo.com (Dragonsfire)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:08:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Mask-making...
Message-ID: <84091.90013.qm@web35505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I've already made a few masks, including a Golden Asian Cat and a timber wolf, but every time I do create them they are tight and and are not sturdy around the head (the muzzles are good, but the actual 'circle' where my head fits in is not self-supported at all. It was constructed from mesh (one bad point, I know, but its good for keeping the head small and better-proportioned to the rest of the fursuits), as well as upholstery foam, hot glue, and as you can tell, lots and lots of fur, clay, and brush hairs.
  If anyone has suggestions for better materials or better techniques other than what I've been using, please tell mer (keep in mind, though; I'm only 16 and have no access to many of the things you professional fursuiters out there use, including metal mesh, heat guns, and a model other than myself or a head-shaped object laying around the house).
   
  Here are the furheads:
  The timber wolf (has no eyes since I was using it for Halloween-the Norse mythological wolf Fenrir or Fenris- and late at night, and needed as much visual freedom as possible-not many picts, but maybe enough to give someone of an idea of what I've been trying to work on, and sorry that there are no front views...-^_^-):
  http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w297/Dragonsfire867/wolfside.jpg?t=1173830491
  http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w297/Dragonsfire867/wolfjaws.jpg?t=1173830149
  http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w297/Dragonsfire867/wolfside.jpg?t=1173830510
  http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w297/Dragonsfire867/wolf.jpg?t=1173830616
   
  The golden cat:
  (this site hasn't been updated in like forever, so don't expect much if you go looking around...)
  http://www.timduru.org/~dragonsfire/id15.htm
   
  If anyone has some ideas or suggestions, I could definitely use them!
  Your fellow 'suiter,
  Dragonsfire
   
   
   
   

 
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From rtrabbitny at aol.com  Tue Mar 13 23:02:34 2007
From: rtrabbitny at aol.com (rtrabbitny at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:02:34 -0400
Subject: FL: TV VIEWER ALERT TONIGHT!
Message-ID: <8C933FC5911A746-E24-220B@WEBMAIL-RE17.sysops.aol.com>

Discovery Channel tonight aired an episode of "How Its Made" at 10:30pm ET and the middle segment was on the construction of a dragon mascot.   The episode will repeat tonight at 2:30am ET.  Set your VCRs and DVRs.
 
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From kaa at anthrosaur.com  Wed Mar 14 00:15:07 2007
From: kaa at anthrosaur.com (Kaa Bakensobek)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:15:07 -0700
Subject: FL: TV VIEWER ALERT TONIGHT!
In-Reply-To: <8C933FC5911A746-E24-220B@WEBMAIL-RE17.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8C933FC5911A746-E24-220B@WEBMAIL-RE17.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <45F776CB.3090803@anthrosaur.com>


rtrabbitny at aol.com wrote:
> Discovery Channel tonight aired an episode of "How Its Made" at 10:30pm 
> ET and the middle segment was on the construction of a dragon mascot.   
> The episode will repeat tonight at 2:30am ET.  Set your VCRs and DVRs.
>  
> Rapid T. Rabbit

Dangit... could someone make it available (hopefully in a file that can be saved 
and not YouTube) for those unfortunate souls who have neither cable nor 
satellite? :/

-- Kaa

          ."``"._.""-.         "I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my
        .'    _-._.-_`\         imagination. Imagination is more important than
     _.-|    (\).--(\)<         knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination
--'`  `       .="""=-.'.       encircles the world."
         _ '-.                                      -- Albert Einstein
         |      _           '._   .--.-.
          \__.-(/'./|    ,     '-/ (O \O)     http://www.anthrosaur.com
        \,_ '-.   V`'-._/(      ,      <
           `;--'..__    V'-.__.-|\-..__/
       jgs '        '---'-..(/.-..__.-V

From lildobe at lildobe.net  Wed Mar 14 02:36:22 2007
From: lildobe at lildobe.net (Andrew "Dobie" Koch)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 02:36:22 -0400
Subject: FL: TV VIEWER ALERT TONIGHT!
In-Reply-To: <45F776CB.3090803@anthrosaur.com>
References: <8C933FC5911A746-E24-220B@WEBMAIL-RE17.sysops.aol.com>
	<45F776CB.3090803@anthrosaur.com>
Message-ID: <45F797E6.40007@lildobe.net>

Kaa Bakensobek wrote:
> rtrabbitny at aol.com wrote:
>> Discovery Channel tonight aired an episode of "How Its Made" at 10:30pm 
>> ET and the middle segment was on the construction of a dragon mascot.   
>> The episode will repeat tonight at 2:30am ET.  Set your VCRs and DVRs.
>>  
>> Rapid T. Rabbit
> 
> Dangit... could someone make it available (hopefully in a file that can be saved 
> and not YouTube) for those unfortunate souls who have neither cable nor 
> satellite? :/


If someone can e-mail the file to this address, I'll be more then happy 
to host it on my website in the Furry Media section...

Or if you need to upload it let me know and I'll send you the info!

Dobie
http://www.lildobe.net/


From caninoazul at gmail.com  Wed Mar 14 03:37:44 2007
From: caninoazul at gmail.com (C. Azul)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:37:44 -0600
Subject: FL: TV VIEWER ALERT TONIGHT!
In-Reply-To: <45F797E6.40007@lildobe.net>
References: <8C933FC5911A746-E24-220B@WEBMAIL-RE17.sysops.aol.com>
	<45F776CB.3090803@anthrosaur.com> <45F797E6.40007@lildobe.net>
Message-ID: <3dadbb1b0703140037v13103e6eh278eca9d85e5e210@mail.gmail.com>

Cool little segment!  Most everything covered there has been covered
on the list and elsewhere, but it's still cool to see a video of
creation methods in action by a larger-scale company.

By the way, for those who missed it, it focuses on the creation of
this guy, sans bib:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/2ptwww

The feature was restricted to a few minutes, so it focused more on
head & foot creation.  Head was carved from several sheets of soft
foam, and foot seemed to be carved from a single block of it.  (Toe
claws were later attached via sewing.)  It also made light mention of
pattern making and sewing of the body and hands.

The clip also features fleece as a fabric of choice. (Which is good
stuff.  Having worked with it, its strechiness allows it to show foam
details and grooves pretty well.)

[ Only thing is, did they really add any way for the costume head to
attach to the performer's head? ]


Anyway, to Rapid T. -- thanks for letting us know about it!

- C. Azul

From bigbadwolf40 at comcast.net  Wed Mar 14 08:48:05 2007
From: bigbadwolf40 at comcast.net (BigBadWolf40@comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:48:05 -0400
Subject: FL: Mask-making...
In-Reply-To: <84091.90013.qm@web35505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <45F7B6C5.19628.91C88E8@bigbadwolf40.comcast.net>

I always try to make the part where my nead fits in the mask an 
inch or so larger, its been my experience that when you go and 
attach the muzle, ears, cheek pieces, ect, that the mask seems to 
flatten out a bit in those places and it makes the mask seem 
smaller inside..

take a look at my mask making faq, might give ya an idea or two.. 
:)

http://fursuits.wereanimal.net/meshmask.htm

best of luck to you!
BBW

On 13 Mar 2007 at 17:08, Dragonsfire wrote:

> I've already made a few masks, including a Golden Asian Cat and a
> timber wolf, but every time I do create them they are tight and and
> are not sturdy around the head (the muzzles are good, but the actual
> 'circle' where my head fits in is not self-supported at all. It was
> constructed from mesh (one bad point, I know, but its good for keeping
> the head small and better-proportioned to the rest of the fursuits),
> as well as upholstery foam, hot glue, and as you can tell, lots and
> lots of fur, clay, and brush hairs.
>   If anyone has suggestions for better materials or better techniques
>   other than what I've been using, please tell mer (keep in mind,
>   though; I'm only 16 and have no access to many of the things you
>   professional fursuiters out there use, including metal mesh, heat
>   guns, and a model other than myself or a head-shaped object laying
>   around the house).
> 
>   Here are the furheads:
>   The timber wolf (has no eyes since I was using it for Halloween-the
>   Norse mythological wolf Fenrir or Fenris- and late at night, and
>   needed as much visual freedom as possible-not many picts, but maybe
>   enough to give someone of an idea of what I've been trying to work
>   on, and sorry that there are no front views...-^_^-):
>   http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w297/Dragonsfire867/wolfside.jpg?
>   t=1173830491
>   http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w297/Dragonsfire867/wolfjaws.jpg?
>   t=1173830149
>   http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w297/Dragonsfire867/wolfside.jpg?
>   t=1173830510
>   http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w297/Dragonsfire867/wolf.jpg?t=11
>   73830616
> 
>   The golden cat:
>   (this site hasn't been updated in like forever, so don't expect much
>   if you go looking around...)
>   http://www.timduru.org/~dragonsfire/id15.htm
> 
>   If anyone has some ideas or suggestions, I could definitely use
>   them! Your fellow 'suiter, Dragonsfire
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From razzlfraz at comcast.net  Wed Mar 14 12:08:14 2007
From: razzlfraz at comcast.net (Angel Bunny)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:08:14 -0700
Subject: FL: TV VIEWER ALERT TONIGHT!
Message-ID: <71D40794-556C-4CE0-8813-40D43E006B0F@comcast.net>

I think fursuit.timduru.org has the video captured and up already,  
actually. If not I'm not sure where but I have already seen it.
Check around. It is on the net somewhere. ;)

From dragon at owc.net  Thu Mar 15 05:27:59 2007
From: dragon at owc.net (Firewing)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:27:59 -0600
Subject: FL: How It's Made-Discovery Channel-Dragon suit
Message-ID: <45F9119F.8050106@owc.net>

For those who don't have cable or a DVD recorder, the Discovery Channel 
may most likely release this episode on DVD for about $10 in the near 
future.	
	I've gotten many of their other shows this way since I don't have cable.

http://www.discovery.com/

					-Firewing


From ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com  Thu Mar 15 12:53:37 2007
From: ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com (ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:53:37 EDT
Subject: FL: FA: United!, looking for fursuiters!
Message-ID: <d2b.8fbc71f.332ad411@aol.com>

Hi there! 

Some of you may be aware that  there is a New Jersey furry convention August 
10th - 12th of this year!   
FA:United!  FA = Fur Affinity, the art website,  http://www.furaffinity.net
Even though the site is mostly focused on art,  they do have photography as 
well! And a lot of fursuit photos!  

For  the convention, we are putting panels together and we would really like 
some  fursuiters to come and "share their craft" so to speak :) Panels on  
construction, performance, tips and anything else!  Anyone on this list  planning 
to go? If so, would you be interested hosting a Fursuit panel?  

For more information, or if you would like to host a panel, please email  
panels at faunited.org or get in touch with Foxwell or JD Puppy @  
fursuit at faunited.org ! 

~Shy Matsi
FA: United! Furry Convention; Aug  2007 in NJ
http://www.faunited.org 
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From aerak.wolf at gmail.com  Thu Mar 15 14:37:41 2007
From: aerak.wolf at gmail.com (Aerak Wolf)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:37:41 -0500
Subject: FL: FA: United!, looking for fursuiters!
In-Reply-To: <d2b.8fbc71f.332ad411@aol.com>
References: <d2b.8fbc71f.332ad411@aol.com>
Message-ID: <2373a4f90703151137k34916eqbda33c9b4a074d81@mail.gmail.com>

Seeing how Alkora and I make fursuits in our spare time and also have had
quite a lot of involvement in FA, I definitely wouldn't mind.  Originally I
wasn't thinking I'd be able to make FA: United, though it looks like I might
be recruited to be Alkora's escort, or something to that affect.   Either
way, Alkora's a pretty accomplished fursuit maker, and you know for sure
he'll be going.  I'll be sure to ask him about it when I see him later
today.  I'm sure he'd do a great job ^^

-Aerak

On 3/15/07, ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com <ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Hi there!
>
> Some of you may be aware that  there is a New Jersey furry convention
> August
> 10th - 12th of this year!
> FA:United!  FA = Fur Affinity, the art website,
> http://www.furaffinity.net
> Even though the site is mostly focused on art,  they do have photography
> as
> well! And a lot of fursuit photos!
>
> For  the convention, we are putting panels together and we would really
> like
> some  fursuiters to come and "share their craft" so to speak :) Panels on
> construction, performance, tips and anything else!  Anyone on this
> list  planning
> to go? If so, would you be interested hosting a Fursuit panel?
>
> For more information, or if you would like to host a panel, please email
> panels at faunited.org or get in touch with Foxwell or JD Puppy @
> fursuit at faunited.org !
>
> ~Shy Matsi
> FA: United! Furry Convention; Aug  2007 in NJ
> http://www.faunited.org
> http://shy_matsi.livejournal.com
>
>
>
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From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Thu Mar 15 14:49:11 2007
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (Cyan FOX)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:49:11 -0400
Subject: FL: FA: United!, looking for fursuiters!
In-Reply-To: <d2b.8fbc71f.332ad411@aol.com>
References: <d2b.8fbc71f.332ad411@aol.com>
Message-ID: <b1c118750703151149u56b52d3eu85ddc7202fa3c4b9@mail.gmail.com>

we all love you shy :3

On 3/15/07, ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com <ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Hi there!
>
> Some of you may be aware that  there is a New Jersey furry convention
> August
> 10th - 12th of this year!
> FA:United!  FA = Fur Affinity, the art website,
> http://www.furaffinity.net
> Even though the site is mostly focused on art,  they do have photography
> as
> well! And a lot of fursuit photos!
>
> For  the convention, we are putting panels together and we would really
> like
> some  fursuiters to come and "share their craft" so to speak :) Panels on
> construction, performance, tips and anything else!  Anyone on this
> list  planning
> to go? If so, would you be interested hosting a Fursuit panel?
>
> For more information, or if you would like to host a panel, please email
> panels at faunited.org or get in touch with Foxwell or JD Puppy @
> fursuit at faunited.org !
>
> ~Shy Matsi
> FA: United! Furry Convention; Aug  2007 in NJ
> http://www.faunited.org
> http://shy_matsi.livejournal.com
>
>
>
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From ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com  Thu Mar 15 15:01:01 2007
From: ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com (ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:01:01 EDT
Subject: FL: FA: United!, looking for fursuiters!
Message-ID: <c56.102a363d.332af1ed@aol.com>

 
 
That would be great!! :) Let me know!  

~Shy  Matsi
FA: United! Furry Convention; Aug 2007 in NJ
http://www.faunited.org  
http://shy_matsi.livejournal.com

 
In a message dated 3/15/2007 2:39:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
aerak.wolf at gmail.com writes:

Seeing  how Alkora and I make fursuits in our spare time and also have had 
quite a lot  of involvement in FA, I definitely wouldn't mind.  Originally I 
wasn't  thinking I'd be able to make FA: United, though it looks like I might be  
recruited to be Alkora's escort, or something to that affect.    Either way, 
Alkora's a pretty accomplished fursuit maker, and you know for  sure he'll be 
going.  I'll be sure to ask him about it when I see him  later today.  I'm 
sure he'd do a great job  ^^

-Aerak



 



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From ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com  Thu Mar 15 15:06:56 2007
From: ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com (ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:06:56 EDT
Subject: FL: FA: United!, looking for fursuiters!
Message-ID: <cc1.d57cf03.332af350@aol.com>

 
 
awh *blush* I love all of you! :)  

While I'm writing on this list, I don't think I've made it known, on this  
list, that we have fursuit workshops in NJ! :) to find out more, go to 
_http://communities.livejournal.com/newjerseyfurs/profile_ 
(http://communities.livejournal.com/newjerseyfurs/profile) 
Right now we only have a couple of regulars.. but looking for more :) as  
it's hard to find a workshop that goes on during the weekend these days.. I know  
there is one in MD that recently started up, but it's on mondays :( and I 
can't  make that.. 
 
~Shy  Matsi
FA: United! Furry Convention; Aug 2007 in NJ
_http://www.faunited.org_ (http://www.faunited.org)  
_http://shy_matsi.livejournal.com_ (http://shy_matsi.livejournal.com) 
 

 
In a message dated 3/15/2007 2:50:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
cyan.fox at gmail.com writes:

we all  love you shy :3



 



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From Tripncheata at aol.com  Thu Mar 15 20:41:13 2007
From: Tripncheata at aol.com (Tripncheata at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:41:13 EDT
Subject: FL: Long fur.
Message-ID: <d0d.bba8544.332b41a9@aol.com>

Hey every one, I'm doing some touch ups on one of my suits and I was 
wondering if anyone knew if it is even possible to find really dense black fur that's 
well 9 inches long. I have hunted everywhere and I'm about to just special 
order some but I thought I should at least ask before spending a lot of money. 
Thanks  


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From rsg0910 at iglou.com  Thu Mar 15 21:36:16 2007
From: rsg0910 at iglou.com (Robert Goodwin)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:36:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: FL: Long fur.
In-Reply-To: <no.id> from "Tripncheata@aol.com" at Mar 15, 2007 08:41:13 PM
Message-ID: <E1HS1Me-0002G4-RM@shell1.iglou.com>

> Hey every one, I'm doing some touch ups on one of my suits and I was 
> wondering if anyone knew if it is even possible to find really dense 
> black fur that's well 9 inches long. I have hunted everywhere and I'm 
> about to just special order some but I thought I should at least ask 
> before spending a lot of money. 

Two ways come to mind. I'm sure you know of the first which is to fork 
over a palletload to National Fiber Technologies.

The second may sound weird. You can use wigs. Yes, wigs.

It's been done before on a Wookiee suit. There was a German page that 
showed how it was done. It came out pretty nicely. Anyone know the URL to 
that page?

I used hair from Sally Beauty Supply for a horsetail one time. For the 
headpiece for the mane, I cut up a wig. Others have used wigs for long 
fur/hair on the head and other places as needed.

Here's one page that shows how they did it;

http://www.stripedsmiles.com/

The fursuit FAQ/wiki and a few other searches around the net will locate 
more pages that can help. The good thing about wigs is that if you do it 
right, you can easily replace the area that's wearing out.

-boogi-
[diving back into classwork after spring break]

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From lexincanada at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Mar 16 17:32:55 2007
From: lexincanada at yahoo.co.uk (Lex Rudd)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:32:55 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: FL: FA: United!, looking for fursuiters!
In-Reply-To: <d2b.8fbc71f.332ad411@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20070316213255.9385.qmail@web86905.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

Who is your costuming/FX GOH?
If you have someone to draw the crowds, you will probably get more suiters to go.

  - Lex

ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com wrote: Hi there! 

Some of you may be aware that  there is a New Jersey furry convention August 
10th - 12th of this year!   
FA:United!  FA = Fur Affinity, the art website,  http://www.furaffinity.net
Even though the site is mostly focused on art,  they do have photography as 
well! And a lot of fursuit photos!  

For  the convention, we are putting panels together and we would really like 
some  fursuiters to come and "share their craft" so to speak :) Panels on  
construction, performance, tips and anything else!  Anyone on this list  planning 
to go? If so, would you be interested hosting a Fursuit panel?  

For more information, or if you would like to host a panel, please email  
panels at faunited.org or get in touch with Foxwell or JD Puppy @  
fursuit at faunited.org ! 

~Shy Matsi
FA: United! Furry Convention; Aug  2007 in NJ
http://www.faunited.org 
http://shy_matsi.livejournal.com  




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From daspony at hotmail.com  Sat Mar 17 00:01:15 2007
From: daspony at hotmail.com (Lisa Smith)
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:01:15 -0400
Subject: FL: Looking for a particular fur...
In-Reply-To: <20070316213255.9385.qmail@web86905.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY113-F3387536DF7249CEDB145BBB1700@phx.gbl>

Hey guys, I'm scouring the internet right now looking for a good long-pile 
ROYAL blue fur. Like crayola royal blue. XD Problem is, I keep finding FUN 
FUR which is crap, as we all know. I'd like to find something of good 
quality that's still the right color. Anyone have any ideas?

~Niiku

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From alkora at akornstudios.net  Sat Mar 17 04:29:48 2007
From: alkora at akornstudios.net (Alkora Husky)
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 02:29:48 -0600
Subject: FL: Looking for a particular fur...
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-F3387536DF7249CEDB145BBB1700@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY113-F3387536DF7249CEDB145BBB1700@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <45FBA6FC.5070103@akornstudios.net>

http://www.syfabrics.com/mojocart/dispproduct.cfm?prod_id=1776
Dunno if this is the right color you want, but I KNOW for a fact that 
this stuff is probably some of the best quality fur I have ever seen...
Hope this helps ^^

Lisa Smith wrote:
> Hey guys, I'm scouring the internet right now looking for a good long-pile 
> ROYAL blue fur. Like crayola royal blue. XD Problem is, I keep finding FUN 
> FUR which is crap, as we all know. I'd like to find something of good 
> quality that's still the right color. Anyone have any ideas?
>
> ~Niiku
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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From daspony at hotmail.com  Sat Mar 17 04:02:05 2007
From: daspony at hotmail.com (Lisa Smith)
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 04:02:05 -0400
Subject: FL: Looking for a particular fur...
In-Reply-To: <45FBA6FC.5070103@akornstudios.net>
Message-ID: <BAY113-F2345B9074959EEECF4E1A3B1700@phx.gbl>

That stuff's too light. The customer I'm making this for needs it to be a 
deep royal blue, because the rest of her fur is baby blue, so it really 
needs to stand out.

~Niiku


>From: Alkora Husky <alkora at akornstudios.net>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: Re: FL: Looking for a particular fur...
>Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 02:29:48 -0600
>
>http://www.syfabrics.com/mojocart/dispproduct.cfm?prod_id=1776
>Dunno if this is the right color you want, but I KNOW for a fact that
>this stuff is probably some of the best quality fur I have ever seen...
>Hope this helps ^^
>
>Lisa Smith wrote:
> > Hey guys, I'm scouring the internet right now looking for a good 
>long-pile
> > ROYAL blue fur. Like crayola royal blue. XD Problem is, I keep finding 
>FUN
> > FUR which is crap, as we all know. I'd like to find something of good
> > quality that's still the right color. Anyone have any ideas?
> >
> > ~Niiku
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Mortgage refinance is hot 1) Rates near 30-yr lows 2) Good credit get
> > intro-rate 4.625%*
> > 
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From chadjkaskamin at hotmail.com  Mon Mar 19 20:09:09 2007
From: chadjkaskamin at hotmail.com (Chad Kaskamin)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:09:09 -0400
Subject: FL: e-mail address
Message-ID: <BAY108-F30E4BA939E1B34D5814AE7B2750@phx.gbl>

Here is my e-mail address, thank you.

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From chadjkaskamin at hotmail.com  Mon Mar 19 20:12:38 2007
From: chadjkaskamin at hotmail.com (Chad Kaskamin)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:12:38 -0400
Subject: FL: e-mail address
Message-ID: <BAY108-F8CD58EDB832D5DAB3C164B2750@phx.gbl>

hi there
Here is my e-mail address, chadjkaskamin at hotmail.com.thank you

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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Thu Mar 22 09:26:44 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:26:44 -0400
Subject: FL: Head furring -glue
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-F2345B9074959EEECF4E1A3B1700@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY113-F2345B9074959EEECF4E1A3B1700@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <3AEF4F8A-88B3-4580-B595-04C2697DF593@flyingfox.biz>

Hello,

I am getting ready to fur the head and wondered about experienced  
opinions on which glue to use.  I have hot glue and super77 -glued  
some experimental scraps of fur to foam last night and both seem good  
but I though I'd better ask your opinions.  Been to the how-to  
sections and it seems that people use both but I wondered what the  
pros and cons are of each.
Thanks!

Scape



From kody_wolf at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 22 18:12:21 2007
From: kody_wolf at yahoo.com (Kody Wolf)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:12:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 11, Issue 16
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1174579202.28508.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <830951.70802.qm@web62509.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

I think hot glue is what is most commonly used, it's what I used for both of my fursuit heads. It's easy to work with and cheap!

The only down side I have had with hot glue is removing it once it's dry .. it a real pain - the easiest way I've found to remove fur from hot glued items is to re-heat the hot glue using the hot glue gun without any glue.

I've also hand-sewn some parts of the fur to the head - that would probably be the prefered method - but it's extremely time consuming and you would been some  basic sewing skills.

I've also seen people velco fur to heads - with the added benefit of removing the fur from a fursuit skull to wash it.

Good Luck!

~Kody Wolf

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:26:44 -0400
From: Fox Kinsman 
Subject: FL: Head furring -glue
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
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Hello,

I am getting ready to fur the head and wondered about experienced  
opinions on which glue to use.  I have hot glue and super77 -glued  
some experimental scraps of fur to foam last night and both seem good  
but I though I'd better ask your opinions.  Been to the how-to  
sections and it seems that people use both but I wondered what the  
pros and cons are of each.
Thanks!

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From daspony at hotmail.com  Thu Mar 22 19:59:54 2007
From: daspony at hotmail.com (Lisa Smith)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:59:54 -0400
Subject: FL: Head furring -glue
Message-ID: <BAY113-W630E8DC71B8B2E2B73275B16B0@phx.gbl>


Use hot glue. Super glue can be strange sometimes, making the fur hard and crusty underneith, while hot glue remains flexible.~Niiku> From: fox at flyingfox.biz> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:26:44 -0400> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> Subject: FL: Head furring -glue> > Hello,> > I am getting ready to fur the head and wondered about experienced  > opinions on which glue to use.  I have hot glue and super77 -glued  > some experimental scraps of fur to foam last night and both seem good  > but I though I'd better ask your opinions.  Been to the how-to  > sections and it seems that people use both but I wondered what the  > pros and cons are of each.> Thanks!> > Scape> > > _______________________________________________> _______________________________________________> Fursuit Mail list.> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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From rufuswolf77 at hotmail.com  Sat Mar 24 03:51:02 2007
From: rufuswolf77 at hotmail.com (rufus wolf)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 03:51:02 -0400
Subject: FL: Head furring -glue
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-W630E8DC71B8B2E2B73275B16B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F19409A182A12F6616AE3C1BA690@phx.gbl>

The flexibility is a good point! I know I had a few folks tug on my ears,so 
im glad the glue could bend. I used hot glue and it has held up just great!! 
Just one thing. Get the position right first,like a dry fit,cause if the 
glue dries,you ll have a,not so great time getting it off.....If you can!!!
Leto Wolfie


>From: Lisa Smith <daspony at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
>Subject: Re: FL: Head furring -glue
>Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:59:54 -0400
>
>
>Use hot glue. Super glue can be strange sometimes, making the fur hard and 
>crusty underneith, while hot glue remains flexible.~Niiku> From: 
>fox at flyingfox.biz> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:26:44 -0400> To: 
>fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> Subject: FL: Head furring -glue> > Hello,> 
> > I am getting ready to fur the head and wondered about experienced  > 
>opinions on which glue to use.  I have hot glue and super77 -glued  > some 
>experimental scraps of fur to foam last night and both seem good  > but I 
>though I'd better ask your opinions.  Been to the how-to  > sections and it 
>seems that people use both but I wondered what the  > pros and cons are of 
>each.> Thanks!> > Scape> > > 
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From solion at comcast.net  Sat Mar 24 10:15:47 2007
From: solion at comcast.net (Lionel Vogt)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 10:15:47 -0400
Subject: FL: (no subject)
References: <BAY103-F19409A182A12F6616AE3C1BA690@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <001501c76e1e$ee8e5cd0$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>

I am looking for a high density, High quality bear brown fur for a bear suit 
I am working on

Anyone have any suppliers I can go to for this?

Lionel
www.lionofthesun.com 


From smorizio at hotmail.com  Sat Mar 24 13:39:00 2007
From: smorizio at hotmail.com (steven morizio)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:39:00 -0400
Subject: FL: (no subject)
Message-ID: <BAY126-W155CFADA2AF33E28A43605D9690@phx.gbl>

http://www.bearycheap.com/ezimerchant/prod2524.htm
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From sparkling_image at hotmail.com  Sat Mar 24 16:09:59 2007
From: sparkling_image at hotmail.com (Stephanie Park)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:09:59 -0600
Subject: FL: Bear fur
Message-ID: <BAY110-F3A01A014EE4174005D71C80690@phx.gbl>

CRs crafts cubby furs are a little hit and miss, some of them are quite good 
quality, so you can check those out.  If you have a big budget though, you 
may want to look into Premiuim Furs Tissavel fabric.  Their bear furs are 
quite awesome, super dense and very soft.  But they're $$$  You'll probably 
want to order samples before actualy buying either, I'd say.  Unfortunately 
neither of them do free swatches, you'll have to pay.

http://www.prefurs.com/10Browse.asp?category=Faux+Fur+by+Tissavel

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From mrbunny at mr-bunny.com  Sat Mar 24 17:23:13 2007
From: mrbunny at mr-bunny.com (Amorpheous E. Bunny)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:23:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: old animal costume pattern
In-Reply-To: <BAY126-W155CFADA2AF33E28A43605D9690@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <618369.83767.qm@web56611.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

someone wanted the old animal costume pattern...

I'm looking for a specific style nurse uniform pattern
and I accidentally found this site:

http://www.oldpatterns.com/costumesanimals.html

nice find!

From rufuswolf77 at hotmail.com  Sun Mar 25 07:12:33 2007
From: rufuswolf77 at hotmail.com (rufus wolf)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 07:12:33 -0400
Subject: FL: (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <001501c76e1e$ee8e5cd0$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F156D2FCE1D4E919CA911F0BA680@phx.gbl>

Hey,
  I usually buy fur from "im stuffed fur". There good with prices,and great 
people.I think its imstuffedfur.com or somthing to that effect!
Leto Wolfie


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>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
>Subject: FL: (no subject)
>Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 10:15:47 -0400
>
>I am looking for a high density, High quality bear brown fur for a bear 
>suit
>I am working on
>
>Anyone have any suppliers I can go to for this?
>
>Lionel
>www.lionofthesun.com
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From eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 25 11:46:25 2007
From: eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com (Jason Taipale)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:46:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Head furring -glue
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-W630E8DC71B8B2E2B73275B16B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20070325154625.37230.qmail@web52503.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

For hot glue, I have found that the Stanly Dual Melt glue gun works well on the "low" setting.  The "high" setting is a bit too warm, especially with upholstry foam.

Lisa Smith <daspony at hotmail.com> wrote:    P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma }   Use hot glue. Super glue can be strange sometimes, making the fur hard and crusty underneith, while hot glue remains flexible.

~Niiku

> From: fox at flyingfox.biz
> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:26:44 -0400
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: FL: Head furring -glue
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am getting ready to fur the head and wondered about experienced  
> opinions on which glue to use.  I have hot glue and super77 -glued  
> some experimental scraps of fur to foam last night and both seem good  
> but I though I'd better ask your opinions.  Been to the how-to  
> sections and it seems that people use both but I wondered what the  
> pros and cons are of each.
> Thanks!
> 
> Scape
> 
> 
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From dia at critter.net  Sun Mar 25 13:45:52 2007
From: dia at critter.net (dia at critter.net)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 12:45:52 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: FL: Beary cheap is NOT cheap, Please be careful!
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1174838401.10390.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
References: <mailman.5.1174838401.10390.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <4327.67.161.42.245.1174844752.squirrel@secure.critter.net>

Be VERY careful, "Beary Cheap" is for 1/4 of a meter... thats ONLY 10
inches for $14!!

-J


> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:39:00 -0400
> From: steven morizio <smorizio at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: FL: (no subject)
> To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
> Message-ID: <BAY126-W155CFADA2AF33E28A43605D9690 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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> http://www.bearycheap.com/ezimerchant/prod2524.htm
> http://www.bearycheap.com/ezimerchant/prod225.htm
> http://www.bearycheap.com/ezimerchant/prod249.htm



From daspony at hotmail.com  Sun Mar 25 15:52:55 2007
From: daspony at hotmail.com (Lisa Smith)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:52:55 -0400
Subject: FL: Head furring -glue
Message-ID: <BAY113-W3307698F4E0DF9D4912B9B1680@phx.gbl>


Yeah I try to avoid high heat guns due to one too many burned fingers. XD~NiikuDate: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:46:25 -0700From: eagleye1234555 at yahoo.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: Head furring -glueFor hot glue, I have found that the Stanly Dual Melt glue gun works well on the "low" setting.  The "high" setting is a bit too warm, especially with upholstry foam.Lisa Smith <daspony at hotmail.com> wrote:     Use hot glue. Super glue can be strange sometimes, making the fur hard and crusty underneith, while hot glue remains flexible.~Niiku> From: fox at flyingfox.biz> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:26:44 -0400> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> Subject: FL: Head furring -glue> > Hello,> > I am getting ready to fur the head and wondered about experienced  > opinions on which glue to use.  I have hot glue and super77 -glued  > some experimental scraps of fur to foam
 last night and both seem good  > but I though I'd better ask your opinions.  Been to the how-to  > sections and it seems that people use both but I wondered what the  > pros and cons are of each.> Thanks!> > Scape> > > _______________________________________________> _______________________________________________> Fursuit Mail list.> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-listi'm making a difference. Make every IM count for the cause of your choice.  Join now!______________________________________________________________________________________________Fursuit Mail list.To edit your subscription, visit:
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From rocket24 at bellsouth.net  Sun Mar 25 23:15:47 2007
From: rocket24 at bellsouth.net (Matthew "Stitch" Pence)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:15:47 -0400
Subject: FL: Head furring -glue
References: <BAY113-W3307698F4E0DF9D4912B9B1680@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000d01c76f55$0ccf1630$0801a8c0@uber1337>

Super 77 remains tacky, while hot glue is pretty much there to stay...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lisa Smith 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 3:52 PM
  Subject: Re: FL: Head furring -glue


  Yeah I try to avoid high heat guns due to one too many burned fingers. XD

  ~Niiku



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    Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:46:25 -0700
    From: eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com
    To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
    Subject: Re: FL: Head furring -glue

    For hot glue, I have found that the Stanly Dual Melt glue gun works well on the "low" setting.  The "high" setting is a bit too warm, especially with upholstry foam.

    Lisa Smith <daspony at hotmail.com> wrote:
      Use hot glue. Super glue can be strange sometimes, making the fur hard and crusty underneith, while hot glue remains flexible.

      ~Niiku

      > From: fox at flyingfox.biz
      > Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:26:44 -0400
      > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
      > Subject: FL: Head furring -glue
      > 
      > Hello,
      > 
      > I am getting ready to fur the head and wondered about experienced 
      > opinions on which glue to use. I have hot glue and super77 -glued 
      > some experimental scraps of fur to foam last night and both seem good 
      > but I though I'd better ask your opinions. Been to the how-to 
      > sections and it seems that people use both but I wondered what the 
      > pros and cons are of each.
      > Thanks!
      > 
      > Scape
      > 
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From bdbfox at outgun.com  Mon Mar 26 17:15:58 2007
From: bdbfox at outgun.com (Damian K)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:15:58 -0500
Subject: FL: Head furring -glue
Message-ID: <20070326211558.0FF7B43F26@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com>

A few minutes under a hair dryer will give you a second chance with any hot glue and foam mistakes. You'll never get all the hot glure off, but you can scrape off a good 90% of it with the help of a hair dryer and detatch and foam pieces incorrectly attached.

-Damian
 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew "Stitch" Pence" <rocket24 at bellsouth.net>
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: Head furring -glue
> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:15:47 -0400
> 
> 
> Super 77 remains tacky, while hot glue is pretty much there to stay...
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Lisa Smith
>    To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>    Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 3:52 PM
>    Subject: Re: FL: Head furring -glue
> 
> 
>    Yeah I try to avoid high heat guns due to one too many burned fingers. XD
> 
>    ~Niiku
> 
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>      Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:46:25 -0700
>      From: eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com
>      To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>      Subject: Re: FL: Head furring -glue
> 
>      For hot glue, I have found that the Stanly Dual Melt glue gun 
> works well on the "low" setting.  The "high" setting is a bit too 
> warm, especially with upholstry foam.
> 
>      Lisa Smith <daspony at hotmail.com> wrote:
>        Use hot glue. Super glue can be strange sometimes, making 
> the fur hard and crusty underneith, while hot glue remains flexible.
> 
>        ~Niiku
> 
>        > From: fox at flyingfox.biz
>        > Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:26:44 -0400
>        > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>        > Subject: FL: Head furring -glue
>        >
>        > Hello,
>        >
>        > I am getting ready to fur the head and wondered about experienced
>        > opinions on which glue to use. I have hot glue and super77 -glued
>        > some experimental scraps of fur to foam last night and both seem good
>        > but I though I'd better ask your opinions. Been to the how-to
>        > sections and it seems that people use both but I wondered what the
>        > pros and cons are of each.
>        > Thanks!
>        >
>        > Scape
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From daspony at hotmail.com  Mon Mar 26 20:51:04 2007
From: daspony at hotmail.com (Lisa Smith)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:51:04 -0400
Subject: FL: Head furring -glue
Message-ID: <BAY113-W23979D4A794BC8B39FED32B16E0@phx.gbl>


Yeah, that works great when you're just trying to remove foam. Just NEVER use a hairdryer to try and get fur off. You'll melt your fur! XD~Niiku> From: bdbfox at outgun.com> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:15:58 -0500> Subject: Re: FL: Head furring -glue> > A few minutes under a hair dryer will give you a second chance with any hot glue and foam mistakes. You'll never get all the hot glure off, but you can scrape off a good 90% of it with the help of a hair dryer and detatch and foam pieces incorrectly attached.> > -Damian>  > > ----- Original Message -----> > From: "Matthew "Stitch" Pence" <rocket24 at bellsouth.net>> > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> > Subject: Re: FL: Head furring -glue> > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:15:47 -0400> > > > > > Super 77 remains tacky, while hot glue is pretty much there to stay...> >    ----- Original Message -----> >    From: Lisa Smith> >    To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> >    Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 3:52 PM> >    Subject: Re: FL: Head furring -glue> > > > > >    Yeah I try to avoid high heat guns due to one too many burned fingers. XD> > > >    ~Niiku> > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------> >      Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:46:25 -0700> >      From: eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com> >      To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> >      Subject: Re: FL: Head furring -glue> > > >      For hot glue, I have found that the Stanly Dual Melt glue gun > > works well on the "low" setting.  The "high" setting is a bit too > > warm, especially with upholstry foam.> > > >      Lisa Smith <daspony at hotmail.com> wrote:> >        Use hot glue. Super glue can be strange sometimes, making > > the fur hard and crusty underneith, while hot glue remains flexible.> > > >        ~Niiku> > > >        > From: fox at flyingfox.biz> >        > Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:26:44 -0400> >        > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> >        > Subject: FL: Head furring -glue> >        >> >        > Hello,> >        >> >        > I am getting ready to fur the head and wondered about experienced> >        > opinions on which glue to use. I have hot glue and super77 -glued> >        > some experimental scraps of fur to foam last night and both seem good> >        > but I though I'd better ask your opinions. Been to the how-to> >        > sections and it seems that people use both but I wondered what the> >        > pros and cons are of each.> >        > Thanks!> >        >> >        > Scape> >        >> >        >> >        > _______________________________________________> >        > _______________________________________________> >        > Fursuit Mail list.> >        > To edit your subscription, visit: > > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------> >        i'm making a difference. Make every IM count for the cause > > of your choice. Join > > now!_______________________________________________> >        _______________________________________________> >        Fursuit Mail list.> >        To edit your subscription, visit: > > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list> > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------> >      Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast> >      with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------> >    It?s tax season, make sure to follow these few simple tips Check it out!> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > > >    _______________________________________________> >    _______________________________________________> >    Fursuit Mail list.> >    To edit your subscription, visit: > > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list> > > > _______________________________________________> > _______________________________________________> > Fursuit Mail list.> > To edit your subscription, visit: > > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list> > >> > > > -Damian> > I brow! You brow! We all brow for eyebrow!!> > > => Search for products and services at: > http://search.mail.com> > -- > Powered by Outblaze> _______________________________________________> _______________________________________________> Fursuit Mail list.> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Tue Mar 27 11:17:47 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 11:17:47 -0400
Subject: FL: arms / gloves
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-W23979D4A794BC8B39FED32B16E0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY113-W23979D4A794BC8B39FED32B16E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <E4D67AB8-398B-4066-848D-AF1C9C4470F8@flyingfox.biz>

Thanks fur all the great advice on the head furring - i will be doing  
that soon =)

Question on arms/ hands now...
I can't quite tell from photos how the hands attach, whether they are  
sewn right to the end of the sleeve or if they are separate.  the  
ones that appear separate look like they come up to the forearm/  
elbow -if so is it elastic maybe?  How do you keep the fabric from  
sliding down?  My old suit from way back in the day was horrible and  
the sleeves never stayed in place.  Just wondered opinions -thanks!

Scape

From antimon at earthlink.net  Tue Mar 27 12:00:51 2007
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:00:51 -0400
Subject: FL: Beary cheap is NOT cheap, Please be careful!
References: <mailman.5.1174838401.10390.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<4327.67.161.42.245.1174844752.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
Message-ID: <007301c77089$18141bf0$0f01a8c0@bigblue>

thats 1/4 METER not 1/4 yard
20"x29.5"
per them
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <dia at critter.net>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 1:45 PM
Subject: FL: Beary cheap is NOT cheap, Please be careful!


> Be VERY careful, "Beary Cheap" is for 1/4 of a meter... thats ONLY 10
> inches for $14!!
>
> -J
>
>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:39:00 -0400
>> From: steven morizio <smorizio at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: FL: (no subject)
>> To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
>> Message-ID: <BAY126-W155CFADA2AF33E28A43605D9690 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>>
>> http://www.bearycheap.com/ezimerchant/prod2524.htm
>> http://www.bearycheap.com/ezimerchant/prod225.htm
>> http://www.bearycheap.com/ezimerchant/prod249.htm
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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Tue Mar 27 16:06:57 2007
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:06:57 -0400
Subject: FL: arms / gloves
In-Reply-To: <E4D67AB8-398B-4066-848D-AF1C9C4470F8@flyingfox.biz>
References: <BAY113-W23979D4A794BC8B39FED32B16E0@phx.gbl>
	<E4D67AB8-398B-4066-848D-AF1C9C4470F8@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <577261b40703271306j6e65beb1n7cf49ff71fbdc429@mail.gmail.com>

Mine are detactable hand paws.  The paw part goes inside the sleeve,
the sleeve is such a tight fit that the paw stays in with little
problem. you could also use a velco system if you wanted to.

-Foxwolf 9-Tails

On 3/27/07, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
> Thanks fur all the great advice on the head furring - i will be doing
> that soon =)
>
> Question on arms/ hands now...
> I can't quite tell from photos how the hands attach, whether they are
> sewn right to the end of the sleeve or if they are separate.  the
> ones that appear separate look like they come up to the forearm/
> elbow -if so is it elastic maybe?  How do you keep the fabric from
> sliding down?  My old suit from way back in the day was horrible and
> the sleeves never stayed in place.  Just wondered opinions -thanks!
>
> Scape
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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Tue Mar 27 16:08:16 2007
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:08:16 -0400
Subject: FL: Beary cheap is NOT cheap, Please be careful!
In-Reply-To: <007301c77089$18141bf0$0f01a8c0@bigblue>
References: <mailman.5.1174838401.10390.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
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Message-ID: <577261b40703271308w72700d9dy763e705ec5d9cf82@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, its not cheap, but that iced carmel, the first link, that looks
incredible.

On 3/27/07, Antimon <antimon at earthlink.net> wrote:
> thats 1/4 METER not 1/4 yard
> 20"x29.5"
> per them
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <dia at critter.net>
> To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 1:45 PM
> Subject: FL: Beary cheap is NOT cheap, Please be careful!
>
>
> > Be VERY careful, "Beary Cheap" is for 1/4 of a meter... thats ONLY 10
> > inches for $14!!
> >
> > -J
> >
> >
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:39:00 -0400
> >> From: steven morizio <smorizio at hotmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: FL: (no subject)
> >> To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
> >> Message-ID: <BAY126-W155CFADA2AF33E28A43605D9690 at phx.gbl>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.bearycheap.com/ezimerchant/prod2524.htm
> >> http://www.bearycheap.com/ezimerchant/prod225.htm
> >> http://www.bearycheap.com/ezimerchant/prod249.htm
> >
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From antimon at earthlink.net  Tue Mar 27 16:52:18 2007
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:52:18 -0400
Subject: FL: Beary cheap is NOT cheap, Please be careful!
References: <mailman.5.1174838401.10390.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org><4327.67.161.42.245.1174844752.squirrel@secure.critter.net><007301c77089$18141bf0$0f01a8c0@bigblue>
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ya know their measurments don't make any sence, .25 meter does = about 10 
inches, Dia's right, so why do they say the peice measures what it 
does...*confused*  590" surface area for that vs 1296" for a sq yard or 
aboit .45  of a yard.

One thing though the prices are in something other then USD, it's only $11 
USD, so about $44 a yard based on  a 1/4?  pricey but not totaly out of the 
ball park for quality fur i guess.

based on the actual surface area they claim  that's like $25 a yard. If my 
math is correct, which si pretty average

It definatly needs clarification



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Foxwolf 9-Tails" <foxwolfac at gmail.com>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: FL: Beary cheap is NOT cheap, Please be careful!


> Yeah, its not cheap, but that iced carmel, the first link, that looks
> incredible.
>
> On 3/27/07, Antimon <antimon at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> thats 1/4 METER not 1/4 yard
>> 20"x29.5"
>> per them
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <dia at critter.net>
>> To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 1:45 PM
>> Subject: FL: Beary cheap is NOT cheap, Please be careful!
>>
>>
>> > Be VERY careful, "Beary Cheap" is for 1/4 of a meter... thats ONLY 10
>> > inches for $14!!
>> >
>> > -J
>> >
>> >
>> >> Message: 1
>> >> Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:39:00 -0400
>> >> From: steven morizio <smorizio at hotmail.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: FL: (no subject)
>> >> To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
>> >> Message-ID: <BAY126-W155CFADA2AF33E28A43605D9690 at phx.gbl>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://www.bearycheap.com/ezimerchant/prod2524.htm
>> >> http://www.bearycheap.com/ezimerchant/prod225.htm
>> >> http://www.bearycheap.com/ezimerchant/prod249.htm
>> >
>> >
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From sparkling_image at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 28 16:08:59 2007
From: sparkling_image at hotmail.com (Stephanie Park)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:08:59 -0600
Subject: FL: Yards
Message-ID: <BAY110-F407DC3ADA0059B8E2022B806D0@phx.gbl>


 >ya know their measurments don't make any sence, .25 meter does = about 10
>inches, Dia's right, so why do they say the peice measures what it 
>does...*confused*  590" surface area for that vs 1296" for a sq yard or 
>aboit .45  of a yard.

>One thing though the prices are in something other then USD, it's only $11 
>USD, so about $44 a yard based on  a 1/4?  pricey but not totaly out of the 
>ball park for quality fur i guess.

>based on the actual surface area they claim  that's like $25 a yard. If my 
>math is correct, which si pretty average

>It definatly needs clarification"

A yard of fabric is NOT a square yard of area.  A standard fabric yard is 
one yard long, and SIXTY INCHES wide, so it's just a little short of being 
TWO square  yards of area.

Just so you know.

-SPark

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From antimon at earthlink.net  Wed Mar 28 16:15:43 2007
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:15:43 -0400
Subject: FL: Yards
References: <BAY110-F407DC3ADA0059B8E2022B806D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <012a01c77175$dd882d30$0f01a8c0@bigblue>

ah...they don't make it easy do they....but i guess thats where experience 
comes in.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephanie Park" <sparkling_image at hotmail.com>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:08 PM
Subject: FL: Yards

> A yard of fabric is NOT a square yard of area.  A standard fabric yard is
> one yard long, and SIXTY INCHES wide, so it's just a little short of being
> TWO square  yards of area.
>
> Just so you know.
>
> -SPark
>
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Wed Mar 28 16:25:20 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:25:20 -0400
Subject: FL: Yards
In-Reply-To: <BAY110-F407DC3ADA0059B8E2022B806D0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY110-F407DC3ADA0059B8E2022B806D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <B07AA6FA-EDDC-4AFD-B156-39C9D6DB5DA8@flyingfox.biz>

and to make it even better -sometimes it comes in 45" also lol

Scape



On Mar 28, 2007, at 4:08 PM, Stephanie Park wrote:


> ya know their measurments don't make any sence, .25 meter does =  
> about 10
> inches, Dia's right, so why do they say the peice measures what it
> does...*confused*  590" surface area for that vs 1296" for a sq  
> yard or
> aboit .45  of a yard.

> One thing though the prices are in something other then USD, it's  
> only $11
> USD, so about $44 a yard based on  a 1/4?  pricey but not totaly  
> out of the
> ball park for quality fur i guess.

> based on the actual surface area they claim  that's like $25 a  
> yard. If my
> math is correct, which si pretty average

> It definatly needs clarification"

A yard of fabric is NOT a square yard of area.  A standard fabric  
yard is
one yard long, and SIXTY INCHES wide, so it's just a little short of  
being
TWO square  yards of area.

Just so you know.

-SPark

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From wallyfox98 at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 28 21:12:09 2007
From: wallyfox98 at hotmail.com (Wally_Wabbit/Stephen H./Wallyfox)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:12:09 -0400
Subject: FL: Fursuit Bowling in CT
Message-ID: <BAY121-F12508C50C802DC6F17B3F1D06C0@phx.gbl>

I am planning to host a fursuit bowling event sometime in May or early June 
somewhere in CT. An exact date and location has yet to be determined.


I would like to get an idea of the following before deciding on a place and 
date:

Who is interested in attending?
Are there conflicting furry gatherings happening in May/June?
Duckpin or Ten Pin? Duckpin has small balls/pins. Ten Pin is standard 
bowling fare.

If your interested please send a private email to wallyfox98 at hotmail.com


Last year we bowled at Johnson's Duckpin Lanes in Hamden, CT. We left a good 
impression on the owners and we are welcome back. Changing space was tight 
as we were limited to the bathrooms and a small storage area.

I am going to look at some other facilities in the area. There are only a 
handful of suitable duckpin alleys in the state. If the group is very large 
we may have to do ten pin.

snugs

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From dia at critter.net  Thu Mar 29 12:22:47 2007
From: dia at critter.net (dia at critter.net)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:22:47 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: FL: Yard totals - Clarification
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9.1175184003.9937.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
References: <mailman.9.1175184003.9937.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <4647.67.155.111.199.1175185367.squirrel@secure.critter.net>

Hi guys, you DO have to be careful anyhow. Before you buy, check the width
of the roll they will be cutting.

I have seen widths of:
45"
48"
58"
60"

***MOST*** rolls I have seen are standard 60", though I have seen 'short
rolls' of 45"

Thanks for your clarification of yardage total, SPark.

-Dia


> A yard of fabric is NOT a square yard of area.  A standard fabric yard is
>  one yard long, and SIXTY INCHES wide, so it's just a little short of
> being TWO square  yards of area.
>
>
> Just so you know.
>
>
> -SPark



From bdbfox at outgun.com  Thu Mar 29 14:23:24 2007
From: bdbfox at outgun.com (Damian K)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:23:24 -0500
Subject: FL: Yard totals - Clarification
Message-ID: <20070329182324.6CA5D7AEBA@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>

I have some muslin that's 3 yards (108 inches) wide, foam is often sold 24 inches wide. though 60in. seems to be the most common amount, don't forget to ask.

Pay attention to the details, some things are sold square (1 yard X 1 yard X price) and some are sold LINEAR yardage (1 yard X roll width X price).

Sometimes fabric is actuallt 60 inches but it's kept on a short roll folded double.

The point is, before you buy makes sure and if you're not sure, ask.

-Damian


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: dia at critter.net
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: FL: Yard totals - Clarification
> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:22:47 -0500 (CDT)
> 
> 
> Hi guys, you DO have to be careful anyhow. Before you buy, check the width
> of the roll they will be cutting.
> 
> I have seen widths of:
> 45"
> 48"
> 58"
> 60"
> 
> ***MOST*** rolls I have seen are standard 60", though I have seen 'short
> rolls' of 45"
> 
> Thanks for your clarification of yardage total, SPark.
> 
> -Dia
> 
> 
> > A yard of fabric is NOT a square yard of area.  A standard fabric yard is
> >  one yard long, and SIXTY INCHES wide, so it's just a little short of
> > being TWO square  yards of area.
> >
> >
> > Just so you know.
> >
> >
> > -SPark
> 
> 
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From jimwolf21 at yahoo.com  Sat Mar 31 10:13:10 2007
From: jimwolf21 at yahoo.com (JWolf)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 07:13:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Mascot Madness on Animal Planet
In-Reply-To: <mailman.146.1172619160.22076.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <20070331141310.21474.qmail@web54502.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

For those of you who have Animal Planet available in
your area, you may be interested in this show ^^
http://animal.discovery.com/convergence/mascot_madness/mascot_madness.html

"Join Jeff Corwin and Lee Corso as they reveal the
nation's No. 1 animal mascot in a one-hour countdown
special. Tune in Sunday, April 1 at 8PM ET/PT"

Animal mascots only. Now we're talking :)

Jimmy Wolf


 
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From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Sat Mar 31 10:28:02 2007
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (Cyan FOX)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:28:02 -0400
Subject: FL: Mascot Madness on Animal Planet
In-Reply-To: <20070331141310.21474.qmail@web54502.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.146.1172619160.22076.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
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Message-ID: <b1c118750703310728h767eefb3xba6d4042f97cc10a@mail.gmail.com>

I hear it's the J.D c.c that's the number one ^^

On 3/31/07, JWolf <jimwolf21 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> For those of you who have Animal Planet available in
> your area, you may be interested in this show ^^
> http://animal.discovery.com/convergence/mascot_madness/mascot_madness.html
>
> "Join Jeff Corwin and Lee Corso as they reveal the
> nation's No. 1 animal mascot in a one-hour countdown
> special. Tune in Sunday, April 1 at 8PM ET/PT"
>
> Animal mascots only. Now we're talking :)
>
> Jimmy Wolf
>
>
>
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Mon Apr  2 19:55:33 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (John Fox Kinsman)
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 19:55:33 -0400
Subject: FL: trying to find BJ T. Wolf
In-Reply-To: <b1c118750703310728h767eefb3xba6d4042f97cc10a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.146.1172619160.22076.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<20070331141310.21474.qmail@web54502.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<b1c118750703310728h767eefb3xba6d4042f97cc10a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <29BAB397-C0C6-4EBF-9945-9303C2274068@flyingfox.biz>

I hope this isn't too out of topic but he was/is a fursuiter so I  
thought it might be relevant... aaaand if not, please let me know a  
good place to start looking.

Looking for BJ T. Wolf who used to be a professional sports mascot on  
the east coast and was on FurrMuck for a number of years around  
1997.  I just can't for the life of me remember his RL name so it's  
been tough trying to google him.  If anyone has any hints -please let  
me know -thanks!

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
fox at flyingfox.biz




On Mar 31, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Cyan FOX wrote:

I hear it's the J.D c.c that's the number one ^^

On 3/31/07, JWolf <jimwolf21 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> For those of you who have Animal Planet available in
> your area, you may be interested in this show ^^
> http://animal.discovery.com/convergence/mascot_madness/ 
> mascot_madness.html
>
> "Join Jeff Corwin and Lee Corso as they reveal the
> nation's No. 1 animal mascot in a one-hour countdown
> special. Tune in Sunday, April 1 at 8PM ET/PT"
>
> Animal mascots only. Now we're talking :)
>
> Jimmy Wolf
>
>
>
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Mon Apr  2 20:33:05 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (John Fox Kinsman)
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 20:33:05 -0400
Subject: FL: trying to find BJ T. Wolf
In-Reply-To: <29BAB397-C0C6-4EBF-9945-9303C2274068@flyingfox.biz>
References: <mailman.146.1172619160.22076.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<20070331141310.21474.qmail@web54502.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<b1c118750703310728h767eefb3xba6d4042f97cc10a@mail.gmail.com>
	<29BAB397-C0C6-4EBF-9945-9303C2274068@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <1F1AA194-5D5C-40D0-B328-B1F0ED33FFC4@flyingfox.biz>

Gadzooks I found him - so never mind all that lol

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
fox at flyingfox.biz




On Apr 2, 2007, at 7:55 PM, John Fox Kinsman wrote:

I hope this isn't too out of topic but he was/is a fursuiter so I  
thought it might be relevant... aaaand if not, please let me know a  
good place to start looking.

Looking for BJ T. Wolf who used to be a professional sports mascot on  
the east coast and was on FurrMuck for a number of years around  
1997.  I just can't for the life of me remember his RL name so it's  
been tough trying to google him.  If anyone has any hints -please let  
me know -thanks!

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
fox at flyingfox.biz




On Mar 31, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Cyan FOX wrote:

I hear it's the J.D c.c that's the number one ^^

On 3/31/07, JWolf <jimwolf21 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> For those of you who have Animal Planet available in
> your area, you may be interested in this show ^^
> http://animal.discovery.com/convergence/mascot_madness/ 
> mascot_madness.html
>
> "Join Jeff Corwin and Lee Corso as they reveal the
> nation's No. 1 animal mascot in a one-hour countdown
> special. Tune in Sunday, April 1 at 8PM ET/PT"
>
> Animal mascots only. Now we're talking :)
>
> Jimmy Wolf
>
>
>
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From creagan at mac.com  Fri Mar 23 11:57:46 2007
From: creagan at mac.com (Crystal Reagan)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:57:46 -0700
Subject: FL: Head furring -glue
In-Reply-To: <3AEF4F8A-88B3-4580-B595-04C2697DF593@flyingfox.biz>
References: <BAY113-F2345B9074959EEECF4E1A3B1700@phx.gbl>
	<3AEF4F8A-88B3-4580-B595-04C2697DF593@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <E824DBD6-7CE3-4EDF-8466-A055CD144A65@mac.com>

Hi,

I actually use Fabric Tac by Beacon brand.

Fabric Tac is flexible and washable! =) And you can get it at pretty  
much any craft or fabric store.  It's around $5 for 4oz. and $10 for  
8oz., so it can be pretty expensive if you're wasteful.  It's EXACTLY  
like hot glue without the hot, so no worrying about burns or when the  
glue leaks out of the tip.. eeew.  It's just a li'l more convenient  
than hot glue 'cause you just squeeze it right out of the bottle.

The downsides are the same as hot glue, its a li'l messy if you don't  
handle it with care; once it dries, it's there for good; if you  
squeeze too much on, it will dry hard and you might (rarely to never,  
if you're good with it) be able to feel the hardness through the fur  
depending on the thickness of your fur and softness of your foam (or  
whatever you're gluing your fur to).

I've made two heads using this glue and I've loved the results. Hope  
that could help.

- Ember Isolte


On Mar 22, 2007, at 6:26 AM, Fox Kinsman wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am getting ready to fur the head and wondered about experienced
> opinions on which glue to use.  I have hot glue and super77 -glued
> some experimental scraps of fur to foam last night and both seem good
> but I though I'd better ask your opinions.  Been to the how-to
> sections and it seems that people use both but I wondered what the
> pros and cons are of each.
> Thanks!
>
> Scape
>
>
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> Fursuit Mail list.
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From grey_llama at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 27 22:27:24 2007
From: grey_llama at yahoo.com (Sean Rook)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:27:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Kids Expo Update - Parade Details
Message-ID: <818373.28130.qm@web59214.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

I've received a parade map and details for the parade
on April 15th for the Kids Expo Parade (Poughkeepsie,
NY).  Details for Saturday and Sunday (April 14th &
15th) can be found here:

http://community.livejournal.com/fursuit_gigs/32482.html

Trying to keep track of what days people will be
attending, until I have specific confirmations I have
everyone on the unconfirmed list.  If you're thinking
of staying at a hotel saturday night (details in
link), we have some people interested in doing a
roomshare to lower the costs - just give me a heads
up.

We're roughly three weeks away from the event, please
get back to me asap ^.^
-Lynx


Attending:

Confirmed Fursuiters:
freakylynx
grizz593
jbadger
mortonfox
renegadehusky

Confirmed Handlers:
darkwolfenz


Unconfirmed Fursuiters:
ace_bearpaws
coyoty
crims0n_w0lf
hindpaws
lascivus_lutra
morbid_hound000
rapidtrabbit
Spike Foxx
talliy
thegreenarcher
vidaroke

Unconfirmed Handlers:
athauglas
cyanfox
happypup



 
____________________________________________________________________________________
The fish are biting. 
Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.
http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php

From grey_llama at yahoo.com  Sun Apr  1 03:14:33 2007
From: grey_llama at yahoo.com (Sean Rook)
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 00:14:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Hyde Park MS Walk, May 6th
Message-ID: <793703.17086.qm@web59205.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

For any fursuiters who will be in the area (Hyde Park,
NY).  There will be a walk sponsored by the National
Multiple Sclerosis Society on Sunday, May 6th.  It
will begin at the Culinary Institute of America and
last from 10am to about 1pm (participants meeting
around 9am).

For anyone interested, please get back to me asap. 
More information will be posted to the fursuit gigs
livejournal community:

http://community.livejournal.com/fursuit_gigs/profile

-Freaky Lynx


 
____________________________________________________________________________________
Get your own web address.  
Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.
http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL

From ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com  Mon Apr  2 18:00:14 2007
From: ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com (ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 18:00:14 EDT
Subject: FL: FA:United! Convention; Just 90days left to Pre-Register!
Message-ID: <bd3.13855fdf.3342d6ee@aol.com>

FA:  United!
http://www.faunited.org

*FA: United! A new furry convention in  New Jersey brought to you by the 
teamwork of the Northeast Anthropomorphic  Association and Fur Affinity! Register 
online for only $30!! Rooms from $79 a  night!!  Just 90 Days til 
Preregistration Closes! Register  today!

The Convention will be taking place August 10-12, 2007 at the  Ramada Inn 
Newark International Airport hotel, a Wyndham Worldwide Partner  Hotel, in New 
Jersey!

Announcement Topics:  
Fourms
Panelists
Registration
Art Contests
Music and a DJ  Profile!
--
*Our forum is open!
Register at our convention forum and  talk with fellow furs about roomshares, 
rides, and ideas!  http://faunited.org/conforum

*We are looking for panelists to come and  share your craft! Whether it be 
fursuiting, art, spiritual, social, or gaming;  You can share your experience 
and ideas with other furs! Email  panels at faunited.org for more information!

*We have 3 levels of  registration! Attending, Sponsor and Founding Member! 
You'll want to grab our  limited edition special gift for founding members! 

*FA: United is  calling all artists! We're looking for brave, talented 
individuals to step up to  the plate and help illustrate United's first conbook! Not 
only that, but we're  also in need of artists to design our convention's 
official shirt! Win an FA:  United 2GB flash drive! For more rules and information 
go to the fourum!  http://www.furaffinityforums.net/showthread.php?tid=7287
*Send all  submissions to dragoneer at faunited.org 

*Friday night, its all about the  music.
We're welcoming DJs from across the country. We'll be featuring Al  Ferrari, 
0J, Tails and other DJs to be named later.
FA:United:  Profiles:  0J - Having been involved in computers most of his 
life, it's no  surprise that 0J (a.k.a. Keith) has experimented with many things 
digital. From  web design to game design he's toyed with it all. But when he 
started dabbling  in remix production many years ago, he knew where he would 
come to settle.   Since 0J has started, he's gone from producing tracks to 
throwing himself center  stage, DJing for many
events since early '05. Illuminated by the glow of his  monitor, he will rock 
the dance floor with his bass, filters, and grooves. Trust  me, it's catchy, 
you'll like it.

~Shy Matsi
FA: United! Furry  Convention; Aug 2007 in NJ
http://www.faunited.org  
http://shy_matsi.livejournal.com  




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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Tue Apr  3 06:25:40 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (John Fox Kinsman)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 06:25:40 -0400
Subject: FL: Head furring -glue
In-Reply-To: <E824DBD6-7CE3-4EDF-8466-A055CD144A65@mac.com>
References: <BAY113-F2345B9074959EEECF4E1A3B1700@phx.gbl>
	<3AEF4F8A-88B3-4580-B595-04C2697DF593@flyingfox.biz>
	<E824DBD6-7CE3-4EDF-8466-A055CD144A65@mac.com>
Message-ID: <88C75E4E-1B3F-4D80-8BE9-70B826AB0FCF@flyingfox.biz>

Thanks to everyone fur all the tips =)  I thought I would be gluing  
last weekend but some fur that I drove hours to pick up turned out to  
be the wrong color.  What's really cool is though I think it's going  
to be even better lol.  I just have a couple more swatches to wait on  
and then may be ordering one more time.  I'll post a link after a bit.
At least I've got feet done finally yay!

Thanks!

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
fox at flyingfox.biz




On Mar 23, 2007, at 11:57 AM, Crystal Reagan wrote:

Hi,

I actually use Fabric Tac by Beacon brand.

Fabric Tac is flexible and washable! =) And you can get it at pretty
much any craft or fabric store.  It's around $5 for 4oz. and $10 for
8oz., so it can be pretty expensive if you're wasteful.  It's EXACTLY
like hot glue without the hot, so no worrying about burns or when the
glue leaks out of the tip.. eeew.  It's just a li'l more convenient
than hot glue 'cause you just squeeze it right out of the bottle.

The downsides are the same as hot glue, its a li'l messy if you don't
handle it with care; once it dries, it's there for good; if you
squeeze too much on, it will dry hard and you might (rarely to never,
if you're good with it) be able to feel the hardness through the fur
depending on the thickness of your fur and softness of your foam (or
whatever you're gluing your fur to).

I've made two heads using this glue and I've loved the results. Hope
that could help.

- Ember Isolte


On Mar 22, 2007, at 6:26 AM, Fox Kinsman wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am getting ready to fur the head and wondered about experienced
> opinions on which glue to use.  I have hot glue and super77 -glued
> some experimental scraps of fur to foam last night and both seem good
> but I though I'd better ask your opinions.  Been to the how-to
> sections and it seems that people use both but I wondered what the
> pros and cons are of each.
> Thanks!
>
> Scape
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
> Fursuit Mail list.
> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/
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From Rollermark6 at aol.com  Thu Apr  5 22:38:53 2007
From: Rollermark6 at aol.com (Rollermark6 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 22:38:53 EDT
Subject: FL: big lots
Message-ID: <c18.f84a03b.33470cbd@aol.com>

hey all you fursuit makers right now my BIG LOTS has foam rubber  
interlocking flooring for $10. They are usually $16+ elsewhere! Stock up and  save!  They 
are great for foot paws and fursuit sandals. 
 
TILT
_The  FURRY World of TILT_ 
(http://hometown.aol.com/rollermark6/myhomepage/index.html)  



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From rigeldc at verizon.net  Sat Apr  7 11:04:58 2007
From: rigeldc at verizon.net (Brian Harris)
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 11:04:58 -0400
Subject: FL: Anthrocon 2007 Masquerade Information (4/07)
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20070407110444.012773b8@incoming.verizon.net>

Anthrocon 2007 is coming, July 5-8!

Now accepting visual media including animation, music video, and recorded 
performances!

If you are a costumer or visual artist and would like to participate in the 
Masquerade, here is what you should do:

1. Visit Anthrocon 2007's homepage for convention details 
(http://www.anthrocon.org).
2. Review the latest draft of the Anthrocon 2007 Masquerade FAQ and rules 
on the Anthrocon webpage in the Events>Masquerade>Masquerade Rules section.
3. Contact me at masquerade.2007(at)anthrocon.org to confirm your 
participation or to get on the informational mailing list.

Once signed up, you will be added to an e-mail list which will receive 
information about the Masquerade up through contime, how to prepare for it, 
and how things will be organized.

If you have any questions about the Anthrocon 2007 Masquerade, you can also 
send them to masquerade.2007(at)anthrocon.org for a prompt reply.

Hope to hear from you!
   


From blue_heel at fsun.net  Mon Apr 16 22:49:15 2007
From: blue_heel at fsun.net (Doctor)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:49:15 -0500
Subject: FL: Start Planning now
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20070416214451.0241b458@mail.fsun.net>

It's Coming..... So make sure you start planning...

<with all due apologies to my furry friends in Kansas, and Ian Fleming>
---
   *Blofeld: The satellite is at present over... Kansas. Well, if we 
destroy Kansas the world may not hear about it for years. Perhaps New York, 
with all that smut and traffic... might give them a chance for a fresh 
start. {Memphis}. Perfect. Since we have not heard from them, *they* will 
hear from us.

---

Think big.. think extravagant.. and be prepared for a great time at the 
MFM's annual Masquerade.

Blue

--
Blue Heeler SunFire
Original member of FSUN (Furry Supporters of Universal Networks)
Blue_Heel on Undernet; FurryMuck; SPR; Tapestries; Yukon Trails
Furry Writer; art collector
www.fsun.net/blue_heel
Furry Code available upon request.  


From tygrcwby at hotmail.com  Mon Apr 16 23:34:03 2007
From: tygrcwby at hotmail.com (Tyger Roth)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:34:03 -0500
Subject: FL: In 2007 Comes MFM 11 Las Vegas Style!
Message-ID: <BAY131-DAV7F2FFBB1975BA34ADB39DD8510@phx.gbl>

That's right. In Vegas terms 7 come 11 is a natural win in Craps! That's what this year's MFM is going to be...a WINNER! Elvis did Viva Las Vegas, so why can't we!

 

Skunky Scuttlebutt

Labor Day Weekend 2007

Guest of Honor: Writer -  Jim Lane 

With Special Guest in Concert: Sub-level 03

There are ONLY 136 Days Remaining before Tyger Opens MFM 11 with these words  "Welcome Home".    That's right, we are quickly approaching the start of Mephit FurMeet 2007, the place so many of us now call home.   Make your plans now to attend one of the BEST gatherings in the furry community. 

 

--=={ New and improved website!! }==--

 

Through the hard work of Rama and Red Card we have a newly designed MFM website this year with lots of new features. Check out everything that's going on over there!

http://www.mephitfurmeet.org 

 

--=={ Hotel Reservation Info, Rooms Going Fast! }==--

 

We will once again be in the Holiday Inn Select Memphis Airport, located at 2240 Democrat Road, Memphis TN 38132-1807. The special Mephit Fur Meet rate is $99 per night for 1-4 people in the room. Rooms are available with one king size bed or 2 double beds and your choice of either smoking or nonsmoking. The layout of the hotel is perfect for MFM with the main level being on the 3rd floor of the hotel allowing everyone to be either on the main level or not more than 2 floors up or down. So it makes getting to panels, socializing in the Garden Court (a huge atrium area of the hotel) or fursuiting a breeze. You can book your room online at:

http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/h/d/sl/1/en/cwshome/DPRD-6X4LWC/MEMDR/website/

or

Call 800-653-6524 or email mfmdirector at hotmail.com to make your reservation!

Don't wait till it's too late! Suites are already SOLD OUT!!

 

The hotel promises that they have a lot of the issues encountered worked out for this year. (remember we had a total staff change just a few weeks before the con!)

 

--=={ Celebrating Life }==-- 

 

Each and every one of us has a lot to be thankful for in our lives. We have friends, mentors, partners, spouses, animal companions that we see every day or that have gone on to better places. This year at MFM we will, though our Spirituality Track have something special to remember those that are important to us. While not something that everyone has to participate in, this will give those that want to, a chance to remember the happy times. A chance to say thank you for those special influences in our lives. We are adding to our special memory book again this year to remember those that have impacted our lives

 

--=={ Registration }==-- 

We know it's all fun and games, but hey, we have to pay our bills too! That's where registration comes in. We strive to keep our prices low and have not had a price increase in over 6 years. We know you work hard to earn your money, so we try to give you the most bang for your con-going buck. Not only do we have a regular membership, but if you have some more money to spend and want to help out the convention, sign up for one of our higher levels. We'll even give you some nice thank you gifts for giving us your extra dough.

Preregistration is currently open until August 1st, 2007. By buying a registration now, not only do you save some money, but it allows us to make sure you get your swag at the door. However, just signing up for preregistration doesn't get you in the door. Any unpaid registration after August 1st will be dropped and you will be forced to sign up again at the door.

Don't worry if you can't register before the deadline, we'll still let you come and register at the door! 

Registration will be open Thursday evening, all day Friday, Saturday morning and early afternoon and Sunday morning.

Rates for the convention are as follows:

SUPPORTING:
Include a tshirt and program mailed to you. Does NOT include a membership for you to attend the convention but does allow you to pay a reduced price of $20 at the door for a total admission of $35.
$15

ATTENDING:
Includes a free tshirt and admission to the ice cream social
Dec 1 to Aug 1, 2007: $35
AT THE DOOR: $40

SPONSORSHIP:
Includes a limited edition print and a special special thank you gift
$60

SUPERSPONSORSHIP:
Includes everything above AND your print is framed, you get a cocktail party with the GOH AND a special Supersponsor shirt
$100

DAILY PASS:
Available for Friday, Saturday, or Sunday. Allows you access to all of the day's events. Does NOT include a Tshirt. Can be upgraded to a full membership, including Tshirt, after expiration. Available at the convention only.
$20

CHILDS MEMBERSHIP:
Available for ages 5 - 15 when accompanied by a paying parent and it includes the tshirt. Under age 5 are free, but won't get a tshirt. For more information and how to register your child, please contact registration.
$25

Please remember, all attendees MUST present photo identification (driver's license, passport, college or military I.D.) when registering/checking in at the event. There will be ABSOLUTELY NO EXCEPTIONS MADE. Also anyone under 18 must be accompanied by a parent or guardian or have a notarized letter giving them permission to be at MFM (email mfmdirector at hotmail.com with any questions)

 

--=={ MFM Needs You! }==--

 

MFM needs volunteers, are you interested in helping make MFM 11 the best Furmeet ever? You can earn time and a half for helping initial set-up and teardown Thursday and Monday. So, for every 1 hour you work those days, you earn 1.5 hours! 

More info can be found here: http://www.mephitfurmeet.org/volunteering

 

--=={ Room and Rideshare Board! }==--

 

Need a Ride to MFM?  Need a place to sleep when you get there?  On our web page http://www.mephitfurmeet.org  you can post a message on the room and ride share lists and find all you need

 

--=={ Tiger Haven Auction }==-- 

 

We are still looking for donations for this year's Tiger Haven Charity Auction. This can be art, commissions, clean plush, anything Furry related. Once again we will have representatives from Tiger Haven http://www.tigerhaven.org to talk with about their awesome work and also see what goodies they and their staff have made for their table. MFM continues to be Tiger Haven's largest single group contributor. To make a donation or more info email Hikaru at hikaru at ic-stories.com 

 

--=={ Programming }==-- 

 

Want to share your knowledge? If you would like to take on the task of heading up a panel, email the name and a brief description of your panel to our programming director, Maui.  Contact Information can be found at our website.

 

--=={ LAN Gaming Information }==-- 

 

Once again this year, MFM will be featuring LAN gaming. Bring your machine and participate in a free-for-all-furry-fragfest! The LAN will have (at least) limited Megabit support this year. We'll also have some new games.  Expect to see a lot of the newest games!  Requests are welcome. We are also planning a couple exhibition matches you won't want to miss.  More details on these in the near future.

 

--=={ Video Room }==-- 

 

Your loyal Furs from the Video Room are working on putting together a surprise.

We'll be posting a 'poll' on the homepage where YOU can look over the videos currently available for the Video Room and vote on the ones you want most to have shown at MFM this year.  Or, if you have a video that you don't see posted, you can offer to bring it with you. Hopefully this will allow us to post the video schedule WITH the program rather then do it on a day-by-day basis as in the past. Keep your eyes peeled for the official announcement then let us know your desires.

 

--=={ T-Shirt Contest }==-- 

 

1) What's up for grabs?

There are three chances for your artwork to be selected for MFM's T-Shirts.

**Attendees Choice - The winner of the Attendees Choice will have their artwork featured on the front of the MFM T-Shirts.   This is chosen by you, the attendees (natch). 
**Director's Choice - The winner of the Director's Choice will be featured on the back of the MFM T-Shirt 
**Staff Choice - This will be chosen by the staff and be featured on their staff shirts
Each winner will receive a free attending membership.

 

***Complete details and rules on the website http://www.mephitfurmeet.org ***

 

--=={ MFM Masquerade }==-- 

 

As always, no MFM would be complete without the Masquerade! This year we have a special challenge to our performers to come up with a "Vegas theme" act. Let's see just how creative and warped their minds are.



--=={ Dance/Karaoke Information }==-- 

 

This year's dance will be a prom theme.   Bring a date and dance the night away.   We will also be doing Furry karaoke again this year. We also have 2 special dances planned as well!

 

--=={ Share Your Interests With Others }==-- 

 

MFM recognizes the diversity in interests among its attendees.   In an effort to provide folks with special interests with a place to meet and greet, MFM will allow groups to make use of its unused space, free of cost, to its attendees.   For more information, please contact Tyger Cowboy.  This will be provided on a 'first come, first served' basis.

 

--=={ Mailing Lists }==-- 

 

General chat for those interested in or attending MFM 2005 can be found at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mfm-chat 

We also have direct mailing lists for news and related posts regarding MFM. This information can be found on our website. Also on our website is a new and improved message board system where you can post your thoughts.

 

 

--=={ Dealer's Den }==-- 

 

Dealers' tables are available at the following rates: $25 for full table / $45 for double table The cost of Dealer's Tables do not include Membership. 



For more information, please see the website. Don't delay, tables will fill up quickly.

 

--=={ Program Book }==-- 

 

Want to contribute a story or artwork to our Program Book? Get in touch via email at conbook( @ )mephitfurmeet.net 



Want to Advertise in the program book? Great! Here's the lowdown on costs: 

Inside the book: 

$40 for a full page 

$25 for a half page 

$15 for a quarter page 



Cover Ads (Full page only): 

$50 inside covers 

$75 outside rear cover 



Advertisements should be in black & white or grayscale. Ads can be either emailed or sent by postal service. Payment for advertisements should be remitted to our main address (provided at the end of this message) Ad space will be done on a first-come, first-served basis.

 

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From marcwolf at anubis-systems.com  Tue Apr 17 02:11:16 2007
From: marcwolf at anubis-systems.com (David Boccabella)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:11:16 +1000
Subject: FL: Information on  ShapeLock
In-Reply-To: <BAY131-DAV7F2FFBB1975BA34ADB39DD8510@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIIEEDEHAA.marcwolf@anubis-systems.com>

Hi Folks

I'm looking at an interesting product called by a number of name. Shapelock
is the US, and Polymorph is the UK

Its a nylon style plastic that becomes very pliable at atroun 62 degrees C,
and when cooled  can be cut,m ground, drilled etc.

If heated up even more  it become very liquid and can be used as a glue...
Or to paint on foam to give it a hard shell outer.

Price is VERY reasonable too.

Just something for folk to look at as it is an excellent replacement for
fibreglass

Dave
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From RTRabbitNY at aol.com  Wed Apr 18 14:43:19 2007
From: RTRabbitNY at aol.com (RTRabbitNY at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:43:19 EDT
Subject: FL: Need two bears for Ocean City NJ DooDah Parade this Saturday
	April 21
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From RTRabbitNY at aol.com  Thu Apr 19 12:06:27 2007
From: RTRabbitNY at aol.com (RTRabbitNY at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:06:27 EDT
Subject: FL: Long Island Ducks mascot day August 12
Message-ID: <c37.10862239.3358ed83@aol.com>

I just was informed by the Long Island Ducks baseball team in Central Islip  
LI-NY that they will be holding their annual Mascot Day event on Sunday August 
 12.  Details to follow in the months ahead.
 
Note that this is the same weekend as FA United in Elizabeth  NJ.   For those 
attending both events, arrangements will be in the  works..
 
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From kody_wolf at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 19 12:12:25 2007
From: kody_wolf at yahoo.com (Kody Wolf)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:12:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 12, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1176998402.23072.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <452705.8485.qm@web62515.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

   1.  Need two bears for Ocean City NJ DooDah Parade this Saturday
      April 21 (RTRabbitNY at aol.com)

If they are washed and clean I'll wear one - if I fit 6'1".
I can make slight adjustments.
Arriving friday night with Protius, staying with Tilt & TJ.
~Kody Wolf

       
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From sckrabei2 at hotmail.com  Sun Apr 22 01:22:29 2007
From: sckrabei2 at hotmail.com (luke sckrabei)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 05:22:29 +0000
Subject: FL: Pro masct head construction and harnesses info request!!!
In-Reply-To: <BAY131-DAV7F2FFBB1975BA34ADB39DD8510@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY102-F26BDFADAC1933AD1E75E32FB540@phx.gbl>


Hi folks,

Finished my panther mascot last week after spending the last 9 weekends on 
him, will put pics up next week!!!!

Head was made with 20mm PE45. Took a pattern of a small horse riding helmet 
and made the harness to that pattern using EVA30 an braced it to the head 
shell using 40mm PE 45.

Just that took me a day and a bit, remember this stuff is pretty ridgid 
getting the angles right was job in itself.

I took a pattern of one side of the head and hand sewed each section and 
pulled it over like a sock. when the fur was on, I then cut the ear holes 
out of the fur, likewise with the eyes.

I left pins around the lines of where I marked the positions so I couild 
feel where i Was.

I also furred the ears FIRST before I attatched them to the main shell. Is 
this wise???

worked out well, but still not happy.

Can someone please share how to go about furring heads in detail.

Might souns silly but to you pro's out there,  is there a huge difference 
between Small heads and big mascot heads in construction???

The reason I say this is I've pulled my hair out trying to come up with a 
decent head harness system for large heads and HOW to mount them inside with 
success!!!




Dont follow me, I'm lost too :)

Luke from South Austraila.

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From yappyfox at thefoxden.com  Sun Apr 22 13:40:28 2007
From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (yappyfox at thefoxden.com)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:40:28 -0400
Subject: FL: Convention pictures
Message-ID: <E62C938F-9CEB-4FC7-AC48-F37472EA1B52@thefoxden.com>

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I have done an overhaul of my con pics pages and noticed that I had a  
total lack of pictures from FWA2006, FWA2007,MFF2005, MFF2006, AC2006  
and FC2007.  Any one need a place to host pics from those cons?  I'm  
trying to catch things back up.

I even found some old school pictures from back in 1997-98 and  
uploaded some larger images of AAC1 and MFM1 (now that websites are  
not limited to 5M)

http://thefoxden.com/conpics/

If anyone has some pictures, (Even RCFM and MFM Since I have not  
attended those in a while, I was still hosting pics since I had not  
been to them at one time)  you can email me for details for getting  
them to me.

Thanks!


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From chameleon264 at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 22 22:55:15 2007
From: chameleon264 at yahoo.com (Black Foot)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:55:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Convention pictures
In-Reply-To: <E62C938F-9CEB-4FC7-AC48-F37472EA1B52@thefoxden.com>
Message-ID: <967539.41080.qm@web56911.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Hey Yappy I hear that you have pix from Anthrocon 2006 well I saw it up to Anthrocon 2005 but this wolf has pix and videos from Anthrocon 2006 if you want them I'll try and send what I have 

yappyfox at thefoxden.com wrote:
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total lack of pictures from FWA2006, FWA2007,MFF2005, MFF2006, AC2006 
and FC2007. Any one need a place to host pics from those cons? I'm 
trying to catch things back up.

I even found some old school pictures from back in 1997-98 and 
uploaded some larger images of AAC1 and MFM1 (now that websites are 
not limited to 5M)

http://thefoxden.com/conpics/

If anyone has some pictures, (Even RCFM and MFM Since I have not 
attended those in a while, I was still hosting pics since I had not 
been to them at one time) you can email me for details for getting 
them to me.

Thanks!


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From solion at comcast.net  Tue Apr 24 21:20:41 2007
From: solion at comcast.net (Lionel Vogt)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 21:20:41 -0400
Subject: FL: New lion
References: <BAY102-F26BDFADAC1933AD1E75E32FB540@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <005101c786d7$f0ad7a60$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>

  This is a mask I just finished for a Hindu temple and will be used for 
ritual story telling.


  Here is more information on the Hindu god or aspect of the god I created.

  http://www.saigan.com/heritage/gods/narasmha.htm

  He is supposed to enraged and thus he is in an angry snarling pose. from 
what I understand
  the temple will be marking him on the forehead with some paint/dye to 
signify the deity. And he will be wearing a gold crown of some kind. I hope 
to get video of the event he will be used in this weekend.

  Here he is.

  http://www.lionofthesun.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album27

  Lionel 



From snglspdcat at gmail.com  Tue Apr 24 23:01:58 2007
From: snglspdcat at gmail.com (single speed cheeta)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 23:01:58 -0400
Subject: FL: New lion
In-Reply-To: <005101c786d7$f0ad7a60$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>
References: <BAY102-F26BDFADAC1933AD1E75E32FB540@phx.gbl>
	<005101c786d7$f0ad7a60$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>
Message-ID: <c23fb4800704242001t5dbd8c59j3cad1536af9759ef@mail.gmail.com>

Beautiful work Lionel as always.

Single Speedy

On 4/24/07, Lionel Vogt <solion at comcast.net> wrote:
>   This is a mask I just finished for a Hindu temple and will be used for
> ritual story telling.
>
>
>   Here is more information on the Hindu god or aspect of the god I created.
>
>   http://www.saigan.com/heritage/gods/narasmha.htm
>
>   He is supposed to enraged and thus he is in an angry snarling pose. from
> what I understand
>   the temple will be marking him on the forehead with some paint/dye to
> signify the deity. And he will be wearing a gold crown of some kind. I hope
> to get video of the event he will be used in this weekend.
>
>   Here he is.
>
>   http://www.lionofthesun.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album27
>
>   Lionel

From marcwolf at marcwolf.org  Tue Apr 24 23:10:46 2007
From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (David Boccabella)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:10:46 +1000
Subject: FL: New lion
In-Reply-To: <c23fb4800704242001t5dbd8c59j3cad1536af9759ef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIAEMPEHAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>

Tsk Tsk. Fancy cutting off a lions head - Oh - it IS a costume :>

Lionel - your work never ceases to amaze with it realism and attention to
detail. It gives us all something to aspire to

Many thanks for sharing with us .

Marcwolf


>
> On 4/24/07, Lionel Vogt <solion at comcast.net> wrote:
> >   This is a mask I just finished for a Hindu temple and will be used for
> > ritual story telling.
> >
> >
> >   Here is more information on the Hindu god or aspect of the
> god I created.
> >
> >   http://www.saigan.com/heritage/gods/narasmha.htm
> >
> >   He is supposed to enraged and thus he is in an angry snarling
> pose. from
> > what I understand
> >   the temple will be marking him on the forehead with some paint/dye to
> > signify the deity. And he will be wearing a gold crown of some
> kind. I hope
> > to get video of the event he will be used in this weekend.
> >
> >   Here he is.
> >
> >
http://www.lionofthesun.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album27
>
>   Lionel
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From uck at growf.com  Wed Apr 25 00:11:26 2007
From: uck at growf.com (uck at growf.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 21:11:26 -0700
Subject: FL: New lion
In-Reply-To: <005101c786d7$f0ad7a60$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>
References: <BAY102-F26BDFADAC1933AD1E75E32FB540@phx.gbl>
	<005101c786d7$f0ad7a60$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>
Message-ID: <462ED4EE.5030208@growf.com>

Very impressive.  How did you make the wrinkles on the nose and 
forehead?  From what I've seen, putting that kind of detail into the 
structure under the fur just gets hidden by the fur...  Is the fur cut 
at varying lengths to get the wrinkles?

-Uck!


Lionel Vogt wrote:
>   This is a mask I just finished for a Hindu temple and will be used for 
> ritual story telling.
>   
<snip>
>   http://www.lionofthesun.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album27
>
>   Lionel 
>   


From daspony at hotmail.com  Wed Apr 25 01:41:06 2007
From: daspony at hotmail.com (Lisa Smith)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 01:41:06 -0400
Subject: FL: New lion
Message-ID: <BAY113-W3DE0EE3197AB59E40F7FDB1490@phx.gbl>


That is really neat, Lionel! I recently spoke to a friend's mother who is a minister, and she's considering having me make a mask for her to use in storytelling for the children. That lion turned out really awesome though, I'm sure it'll be cherished by the people who commissioned it.~Niiku> From: solion at comcast.net> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 21:20:41 -0400> Subject: FL: New lion> >   This is a mask I just finished for a Hindu temple and will be used for > ritual story telling.> > >   Here is more information on the Hindu god or aspect of the god I created.> >   http://www.saigan.com/heritage/gods/narasmha.htm> >   He is supposed to enraged and thus he is in an angry snarling pose. from > what I understand>   the temple will be marking him on the forehead with some paint/dye to > signify the deity. And he will be wearing a gold crown of some kind. I hope > to get video of the event he will be used in this weekend.> >   Here he is.> >   http://www.lionofthesun.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album27> >   Lionel > > > _______________________________________________> _______________________________________________> Fursuit Mail list.> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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From colifox at hotmail.com  Wed Apr 25 02:34:01 2007
From: colifox at hotmail.com (Colifox _)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 06:34:01 +0000
Subject: FL: New lion
In-Reply-To: <c23fb4800704242001t5dbd8c59j3cad1536af9759ef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY128-F363735173FF3C00BBA1028B7490@phx.gbl>


Wow.  That is exceptionally detailed and very good work indeed!

>From: "single speed cheeta" <snglspdcat at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: Re: FL: New lion
>Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 23:01:58 -0400
>
>Beautiful work Lionel as always.
>
>Single Speedy
>
>On 4/24/07, Lionel Vogt <solion at comcast.net> wrote:
> >   This is a mask I just finished for a Hindu temple and will be used for
> > ritual story telling.
> >
> >
> >   Here is more information on the Hindu god or aspect of the god I 
>created.
> >
> >   http://www.saigan.com/heritage/gods/narasmha.htm
> >
> >   He is supposed to enraged and thus he is in an angry snarling pose. 
>from
> > what I understand
> >   the temple will be marking him on the forehead with some paint/dye to
> > signify the deity. And he will be wearing a gold crown of some kind. I 
>hope
> > to get video of the event he will be used in this weekend.
> >
> >   Here he is.
> >
> >   
>http://www.lionofthesun.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album27
> >
> >   Lionel
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From solion at comcast.net  Wed Apr 25 10:27:11 2007
From: solion at comcast.net (Lionel Vogt)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:27:11 -0400
Subject: FL: New lion
References: <BAY102-F26BDFADAC1933AD1E75E32FB540@phx.gbl><005101c786d7$f0ad7a60$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>
	<462ED4EE.5030208@growf.com>
Message-ID: <006101c78745$d046e9f0$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>

It is a combination of techniques that I tried for the first time. both a 
bunching of the fur and laying down lines of glue. then shaving the fur from 
each of the creases to get the effect. it was .... touchy to say the least 
every second I swear I was gonna mess it up. the nose and the eyes took 
hours and lots of handcramping to hol it in place as the hot glue cooled.

Lionel
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> Very impressive.  How did you make the wrinkles on the nose and
> forehead?  From what I've seen, putting that kind of detail into the
> structure under the fur just gets hidden by the fur...  Is the fur cut
> at varying lengths to get the wrinkles?
>
> -Uck!
>
>
> Lionel Vogt wrote:
>>   This is a mask I just finished for a Hindu temple and will be used for
>> ritual story telling.
>>
> <snip>
>> 
>> http://www.lionofthesun.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album27
>>
>>   Lionel
>>
>
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From wallyfox98 at hotmail.com  Wed Apr 25 18:24:48 2007
From: wallyfox98 at hotmail.com (Wally_Wabbit/Stephen H./Wallyfox)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:24:48 -0400
Subject: FL: Fursuit Bowling in CT 5/19/07
Message-ID: <BAY121-F1453AA3D278312DDBA5A3D0490@phx.gbl>


Finally Booked it!!


We will be gathering for furry Bowling at Johnson?s Duckpin Lanes in Hamden,
CT at 1:00pm on Saturday May 19th.

Our bowl time has been booked for 2-4pm.  We will gather in the lot or lobby 
prior to
going on the lanes.

For those in suit please be sure your outfits are family friendly and that
your tails do not drag on the floor (trip hazard). We will need to check
with the desk before changing into suit.

Right now the bowling center is expecting 20 of us and I will need to update
them if the number grows or shrinks.

If are attending please send an RSVP to
Wallyfox98 at hotmail.com. Please indicate weather or not you are bowling
in fursuit.   I NEED to have a count by Thursday 5/10

Price is TBD depending on the final size of the group.  If the group is 
large we will get a discount otherwise bowling is $8 per person per hour.

Dinner is likely to follow after the meet.

If anyone is coming from far away and needs a place to crash I do have space
for the weekend. Please private email me. I have a small apartment and can
only accommodate 2-3 furs.


Directions will be posted closer to the event!!

snugs

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From bdbfox at outgun.com  Thu Apr 26 13:57:23 2007
From: bdbfox at outgun.com (Damian K)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:57:23 -0500
Subject: FL: It's a Great Day to Join Hi-4!
Message-ID: <20070426175723.CE23C2477C@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com>

Hi-4, the Metro NY area based fursuiting-for-charity group has a pack of events lined up for the spring season, including fundraisers in Shea Stadium and Castle Clinton.

How many major league sports venues and historic national monuments have you fursuited in recently.

Check out our website:

http:/www.Hi-4.org

Mail me privately or send an email to thehi4critters at gmail.com for more info.

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From camstone at dirtdeninn.com  Sat Apr 28 15:34:35 2007
From: camstone at dirtdeninn.com (camstone)
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 15:34:35 -0400
Subject: FL:  Wanted - Monterey Mills Cubby Bear Red Fox fur
In-Reply-To: <793703.17086.qm@web59205.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <793703.17086.qm@web59205.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4633A1CB.5010709@dirtdeninn.com>

Hi everyone-

I know, long time no post. Between traveling all over for my job and 
keeping my vixen happy - I'm surprised I have any time at all to think 
about fursuiting. Yet I do, happily! So I am looking for some Monterey 
Mills Cubby Bear Red Fox fur, including some scraps and a couple of 
yards full (60") width. If anyone has any, I would really appreciate an 
email with the size of pieces and any reimbursement you would like...

Thanks!

- Camstone Fox (camstone =dot= fox =at= gmail =dot= com)

P.S. (And I do appreciate the list admins and users for keeping the list 
both professional and courteous! =)

From wallyfox98 at hotmail.com  Fri May  4 20:45:40 2007
From: wallyfox98 at hotmail.com (Wally_Wabbit/Stephen H./Wallyfox)
Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 20:45:40 -0400
Subject: FL: REMINDER- Fursuit Bowling 5/19/07 in CT
Message-ID: <BAY121-F185C84D2A82E63FDD5D071D0470@phx.gbl>


Heya all,

If you haven't already responded to my previous post please do so by 
Thursday 5/10!!   I need to give the alley an estimated count.

If you are unsure of your attendance and may come please let me know as 
well.  It is better for me to give a larger number in case.

We may also suit up around town after bowling:)

Exact price and headcount are TBA closer to the event.

My original post/details along with directions are below:

W_W

We will be gathering for furry Bowling at Johnson?s Duckpin Lanes in Hamden,
CT at 1:00pm on Saturday May 19th.

Our bowl time has been booked for 2-4pm. We will gather in the lot or lobby 
prior to
going on the lanes.

For those in suit please be sure your outfits are family friendly and that
your tails do not drag on the floor (trip hazard). We will need to check
with the desk before changing into suit.

Right now the bowling center is expecting 20 of us and I will need to update
them if the number grows or shrinks.

If are attending please send an RSVP to
Wallyfox98 at hotmail.com. Please indicate weather or not you are bowling
in fursuit. I NEED to have a count by Thursday 5/10

Price is TBD depending on the final size of the group. If the group is large 
we will get a discount otherwise bowling is $8 per person per hour.

Dinner is likely to follow after the meet.

If anyone is coming from far away and needs a place to crash I do have space
for the weekend. Please private email me. I have a small apartment and can
only accommodate 2-3 furs.

Drirections are below:

snugs

Wally_Wabbit

Directions-

address:
Johnson?s Duckpin Lanes
2100 Dixwell Ave (route 10)
Hamden, CT
203-248-1563
http://www.johnsonlanes.com/index.cfm


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sat Jan  6 11:17:01 2007
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 16:17:01 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.13.1178325963.22073.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>

Take I-91 South to exit 17 (Merritt/W Cross Pkwys Route 15 south)

Follow Route 15 South to Exit 60 (Route 10 Hamden/New Haven)

Get off at exit 60 and turn left at the end of the ramp onto Dixwell Ave.

Turn left into your first shopping plaza named Hamden Plaza
(Shaw?s/Petco/Panera/Joeyz/East Buffet-Right after Hamden High School)

Bowling alley is in the same building as Petco and the lanes are on the SIDE
of the building closest to Shaw?s .


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sat Jan  6 11:17:01 2007
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 16:17:01 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.14.1178325963.22073.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>

Take route 15 North to Exit 60 (Route 10 Hamden)

Get off at exit 60 and turn left at the end of the ramp onto Dixwell Ave.

Turn left into your first shopping plaza named Hamden Plaza
(Shaw?s/Petco/Panera/Joeyz/East Buffet-Right after Hamden High School)

Bowling alley is in the same building as Petco and the lanes are on the SIDE
of the building closest to Shaw?s

OR

Take I-95 to exit 38 (Route 15 Merritt/W Cross Pkwys)

Get off at exit 38 and stay in the right lane. Follow signs for route 15
North to Hartford.

Follow route 15 North to Exit 60 (Route 10 Hamden)

Get off at exit 60 and turn left at the end of the ramp onto Dixwell Ave.

Turn left into your first shopping plaza named Hamden Plaza
(Shaw?s/Petco/Panera/Joeyz/East Buffet-Right after Hamden High School)

Bowling alley is in the same building as Petco and the lanes are on the SIDE
of the building closest to Shaw?s

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From johnmbarrett at comcast.net  Tue May  8 00:02:28 2007
From: johnmbarrett at comcast.net (John "Roxikat" Barrett)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 00:02:28 -0400
Subject: FL: Fursuit creator wanted for toony Roxikat
In-Reply-To: <mailman.4.1177344001.26350.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
References: <mailman.4.1177344001.26350.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <463FF654.2040606@comcast.net>

Hi!  I've been performing Roxikat for over a decade and I've finally 
decided that I want to comission an artist for a real fursuit.
(I'm growing tired of Roxi, but I want to finish the character before I 
seek to get a male suit for myself finally.)

In the past, I've worn a spandex unitard because I was hoping for the 
toony smooth look.
I'm discovering that as I get older, spandex is looking spooky on me 
without proper padding.

I brainstormed the look, and I'm hoping to get an estimate. 
http://picasaweb.google.com/roxikat/FursuitIdeas/photo#5062031613506939042

Barring that, is anyone interested in sharing some thoughts and ideas 
with me on how I can make this silly comedy character a reality?

Thanks for your time!

-JB
Roxi

From dia at critter.net  Tue May  8 12:14:35 2007
From: dia at critter.net (dia at critter.net)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 11:14:35 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 13, Issue 2
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1178640002.23476.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
References: <mailman.5.1178640002.23476.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <7112.67.155.111.199.1178640875.squirrel@secure.critter.net>

HI there Roxi!
Nice pic of a new Roxi.  I would suggest going to LiveJournal, and post
this on LJ FursuitAuctions.  (no, not only for Auctions but most fursuit
makers read this community, and it helps getting Quotes!)

Also, if you go to the main page:
http://community.livejournal.com/fursuitauctions/profile  There is a list
I gathered of all the fursuit makers I know of if you wanted to go to
their website and find a "look" you think will fit.

-J/Dia



> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 00:02:28 -0400
> From: "John \"Roxikat\" Barrett" <johnmbarrett at comcast.net>
> Subject: FL: Fursuit creator wanted for toony Roxikat
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Message-ID: <463FF654.2040606 at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>
> Hi!  I've been performing Roxikat for over a decade and I've finally
> decided that I want to comission an artist for a real fursuit. (I'm growing
> tired of Roxi, but I want to finish the character before I seek to get a
> male suit for myself finally.)
>
> In the past, I've worn a spandex unitard because I was hoping for the
> toony smooth look. I'm discovering that as I get older, spandex is looking
> spooky on me without proper padding.
>
> I brainstormed the look, and I'm hoping to get an estimate.
> http://picasaweb.google.com/roxikat/FursuitIdeas/photo#5062031613506939042
>
>
> Barring that, is anyone interested in sharing some thoughts and ideas
> with me on how I can make this silly comedy character a reality?
>
> Thanks for your time!
>
>
> -JB
> Roxi
>
>
>
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From taurus10 at fresnomail.com  Tue May  8 16:53:13 2007
From: taurus10 at fresnomail.com (taurus10 tenn)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 15:53:13 -0500
Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 12, Issue 6
Message-ID: <F2CF4E1D2EF958649B225808D5BBA15E@taurus10.fresnomail.com>

I Called Dow about this product, and they have informed me it has 
been discontinued as of Sept 2006. 

Caprolactone also apparently causes severe eye irritation and may 
cause corneal damage if the product comes in contact. I would be 
interested to hear of anyone using this for molding fursuit heads, 
if indeed there were any irritation effects from the *cured* plastic.

-Maxx Coyote

I'm looking at an interesting product called by a number of name. 
Shapelock
is the US, and Polymorph is the UK

Its a nylon style plastic that becomes very pliable at atroun 62 
degrees C,
and when cooled  can be cut,m ground, drilled etc.

If heated up even more  it become very liquid and can be used as a 
glue...
Or to paint on foam to give it a hard shell outer.

Price is VERY reasonable too.

Just something for folk to look at as it is an excellent replacement 
for
fibreglass

Dave

Sent by [CompanyName]  Mail

From donkeyears at gmail.com  Tue May  8 19:32:24 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 16:32:24 -0700
Subject: FL: Fursuiter lost =(
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0705081632s2aa1bc61of6f79e59bb0e25be@mail.gmail.com>

http://pouchhopper.livejournal.com/39932.html

Donkey

From fox at flyingfox.biz  Wed May  9 09:42:46 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 09:42:46 -0400
Subject: FL: FS slate blue fur
In-Reply-To: <006101c78745$d046e9f0$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>
References: <BAY102-F26BDFADAC1933AD1E75E32FB540@phx.gbl><005101c786d7$f0ad7a60$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>
	<462ED4EE.5030208@growf.com>
	<006101c78745$d046e9f0$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>
Message-ID: <5AA7ECF1-8FDE-49CD-AB69-F257EDEA6D5A@flyingfox.biz>

I have a 6 yard roll of slate blue fur -wondered if anyone is  
interested in it or if anyone has a suggestion on where i should  
mention it if this is not the place to do so.
Thanks for any help =)

Scape


Fox =^_^=
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From animecat at hotmail.com  Wed May  9 09:53:13 2007
From: animecat at hotmail.com (Anime Cat)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 09:53:13 -0400
Subject: FL: FS slate blue fur
Message-ID: <BAY139-W102F029F586743EAC3A108D73B0@phx.gbl>


What legnth is the fur? Do you have any photos?
Nicole "AnimeCat" Spradling Studio Neko-Neko founder and artist 
Central Arkansas Fur Association event coordinatorCreator and founder of the Candy Skunk Corps
 


From: fox at flyingfox.bizDate: Wed, 9 May 2007 09:42:46 -0400To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: FL: FS slate blue furI have a 6 yard roll of slate blue fur -wondered if anyone is interested in it or if anyone has a suggestion on where i should mention it if this is not the place to do so. 
Thanks for any help =)

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Wed May  9 10:32:01 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 10:32:01 -0400
Subject: FL: FS slate blue fur
In-Reply-To: <BAY139-W102F029F586743EAC3A108D73B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY139-W102F029F586743EAC3A108D73B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <FD8CF0C7-FF5F-4F36-8AE3-78CC08457AFE@flyingfox.biz>

Hey there AnimeCat =) I've been so busy i forgot about the conbadge - 
now I'm all excited again lol ;)

I will take some photos tonight.  I also must re-measure; i have two  
rolls -one I am definitely using and the other is the blue -one is 6  
yards and the other is 5.375 but i can't remember which is which  
lol.  I'll measure the roll width too. i believe the pile is 1" but  
it may be just a hair longer *pun* lol

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



On May 9, 2007, at 9:53 AM, Anime Cat wrote:

What legnth is the fur? Do you have any photos?

Nicole "AnimeCat" Spradling
Studio Neko-Neko founder and artist
Central Arkansas Fur Association event coordinator
Creator and founder of the Candy Skunk Corps



From: fox at flyingfox.biz
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 09:42:46 -0400
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Subject: FL: FS slate blue fur

I have a 6 yard roll of slate blue fur -wondered if anyone is  
interested in it or if anyone has a suggestion on where i should  
mention it if this is not the place to do so.
Thanks for any help =)

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz






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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Wed May  9 10:48:54 2007
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 10:48:54 -0400
Subject: FL: FS slate blue fur
In-Reply-To: <FD8CF0C7-FF5F-4F36-8AE3-78CC08457AFE@flyingfox.biz>
References: <BAY139-W102F029F586743EAC3A108D73B0@phx.gbl>
	<FD8CF0C7-FF5F-4F36-8AE3-78CC08457AFE@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <577261b40705090748x6943955dt3ccfaa5797c11513@mail.gmail.com>

How much would you sell the fur for? Depending on price and of course
the color, I'd buy some.

-Foxwolf 9-Tails

From fox at flyingfox.biz  Wed May  9 11:59:06 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 11:59:06 -0400
Subject: FL: FS slate blue fur
In-Reply-To: <577261b40705090748x6943955dt3ccfaa5797c11513@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY139-W102F029F586743EAC3A108D73B0@phx.gbl>
	<FD8CF0C7-FF5F-4F36-8AE3-78CC08457AFE@flyingfox.biz>
	<577261b40705090748x6943955dt3ccfaa5797c11513@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EDC4CA55-9BA4-47CC-A049-F4A90685F901@flyingfox.biz>

i'll have to get back to you all tonight or tomorrow about it.  Sorry  
about not knowing the specs -i guess i just wondered if anyone would  
even be interested -lol
It really is a sweet color -i've never seen a blue like it before - 
almost wish i could keep it but i changed the color scheme of my suit  
plus my house is so small and i think it would be years before i'd  
end up using it -better to go to a good home where it will turn into  
something really cool ;)
Scape

Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



On May 9, 2007, at 10:48 AM, Foxwolf 9-Tails wrote:

How much would you sell the fur for? Depending on price and of course
the color, I'd buy some.

-Foxwolf 9-Tails
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From kalagei at gmail.com  Wed May  9 11:59:12 2007
From: kalagei at gmail.com (Kalagei The Fox)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 08:59:12 -0700
Subject: FL: FS slate blue fur
In-Reply-To: <577261b40705090748x6943955dt3ccfaa5797c11513@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY139-W102F029F586743EAC3A108D73B0@phx.gbl>
	<FD8CF0C7-FF5F-4F36-8AE3-78CC08457AFE@flyingfox.biz>
	<577261b40705090748x6943955dt3ccfaa5797c11513@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <77b0f0110705090859m6c1f4266i2410f5481f1054e@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/9/07, Foxwolf 9-Tails <foxwolfac at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> How much would you sell the fur for? Depending on price and of course
> the color, I'd buy some.



I Agree.


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From glenn.dreamscape at googlemail.com  Wed May  9 12:36:32 2007
From: glenn.dreamscape at googlemail.com (glenn davage)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 17:36:32 +0100
Subject: FL: What new
Message-ID: <cda0a9b20705090936t6a3863cdxd29c8ef2e532be0d@mail.gmail.com>

New fursuits out
-- 
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From daspony at hotmail.com  Wed May  9 16:04:48 2007
From: daspony at hotmail.com (Lisa Smith)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 16:04:48 -0400
Subject: FL: FS slate blue fur
Message-ID: <BAY113-W517AC376D906557B16A60B13B0@phx.gbl>


I might be interested in some of that fur too, depending on the price and the exact color. :3 I've been looking for a specific shade of slate blue.~NiikuFrom: fox at flyingfox.bizDate: Wed, 9 May 2007 09:42:46 -0400To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: FL: FS slate blue furI have a 6 yard roll of slate blue fur -wondered if anyone is interested in it or if anyone has a suggestion on where i should mention it if this is not the place to do so.Thanks for any help =)Scape Fox =^_^=John Fox Kinsmanwww.flyingfox.biz
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Thu May 10 09:22:15 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 09:22:15 -0400
Subject: FL: Slate blue fur
In-Reply-To: <5AA7ECF1-8FDE-49CD-AB69-F257EDEA6D5A@flyingfox.biz>
References: <BAY102-F26BDFADAC1933AD1E75E32FB540@phx.gbl><005101c786d7$f0ad7a60$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>
	<462ED4EE.5030208@growf.com>
	<006101c78745$d046e9f0$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>
	<5AA7ECF1-8FDE-49CD-AB69-F257EDEA6D5A@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <A2473E98-29F9-49E9-A11A-68E4E78CFF91@flyingfox.biz>

I totally wasn't expecting the response I got for the blue fur lol!   
Since I'm new to this, it did not occur to me to take photos, look  
into auctioning or how I would go about shipping it.  I won't be able  
to sell it right away anyways and with the prospect last night of  
wrapping up a bunch of projects before summer there may be a chance I  
might still use it.  If and when I find it definitely needs a home, I  
will probably try for an auction but i will certainly let you know  
before it goes up for sale.
Thanks!
Scape

Fox =^_^=
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www.flyingfox.biz




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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Fri May 11 09:36:56 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 09:36:56 -0400
Subject: FL: moveable jaw?
In-Reply-To: <4633A1CB.5010709@dirtdeninn.com>
References: <793703.17086.qm@web59205.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<4633A1CB.5010709@dirtdeninn.com>
Message-ID: <606DD186-D78E-4A10-AFFD-DBF95CE9FB7C@flyingfox.biz>

Anyone have a how-to or tips on making the moveable jaw?
I was originally going to leave it fixed but starting to think about  
making it moveable -I just have no idea where to start the process.   
I've got a foam face (still haven't furred it yet)
Thanks for any help you may have!

Scape

Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



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From marcwolf at marcwolf.org  Fri May 11 09:49:45 2007
From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (David Boccabella)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 23:49:45 +1000
Subject: FL: moveable jaw?
In-Reply-To: <606DD186-D78E-4A10-AFFD-DBF95CE9FB7C@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIGEHJEIAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>

Hope this helps

http://marcwolf.org/construct/mask_web/index.html

Take Care

Dave
  -----Original Message-----
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[mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of Fox Kinsman
  Sent: Friday, 11 May 2007 23:37
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
  Subject: FL: moveable jaw?


  Anyone have a how-to or tips on making the moveable jaw?
  I was originally going to leave it fixed but starting to think about
making it moveable -I just have no idea where to start the process.  I've
got a foam face (still haven't furred it yet)
  Thanks for any help you may have!



  Scape



  Fox =^_^=
  John Fox Kinsman
  www.flyingfox.biz






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From daspony at hotmail.com  Fri May 11 14:57:33 2007
From: daspony at hotmail.com (Lisa Smith)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 14:57:33 -0400
Subject: FL: moveable jaw?
Message-ID: <BAY113-W1899240EB696A47FB86DBBB1390@phx.gbl>


Here's a simpler method: http://community.livejournal.com/fursuit/709073.htmlIt's how I do it. Except I've modified it using more mesh instead of hanger wire, for comfort. But it works every time. :3~NiikuFrom: fox at flyingfox.bizDate: Fri, 11 May 2007 09:36:56 -0400To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: FL: moveable jaw?Anyone have a how-to or tips on making the moveable jaw?I was originally going to leave it fixed but starting to think about making it moveable -I just have no idea where to start the process.  I've got a foam face (still haven't furred it yet)Thanks for any help you may have! ScapeFox =^_^=John Fox Kinsmanwww.flyingfox.biz 
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From wallyfox98 at hotmail.com  Fri May 11 20:13:47 2007
From: wallyfox98 at hotmail.com (Wally_Wabbit/Stephen H./Wallyfox)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 20:13:47 -0400
Subject: FL: Update- Furry/Fursuit Bowling 5/19/07 in CT
In-Reply-To: <BAY121-F185C84D2A82E63FDD5D071D0470@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY121-F9C18BC2DB5949BB7CCF2AD0380@phx.gbl>



Just an update/reminder.  I will be posting a final reminder on Weds or 
Thursday.

We are meeting for Fursuit/Furry bowling on Saturday 5/19 @1pm at Johnson's 
Duckpin Lanes in Hamden, CT.

All are welcome to attend NO FURSUIT NEEDED TO ATTEND .  We have a total of 
4 lanes and can get more if needed.  If you are planning to attend please 
email me and let me know if you are bowling in or out of suit.

I would like to know ASAP so I can give the alley a strong estimate a couple 
days prior.  So far it looks like about 10 are attending.

Bowling is going to be $8 per hour.  Shoes are extra if needed (Most suiters 
will not need shoes).  If We get over 20 bowlers they will cut the price.

If folks need transportation from the RR station I can make arrangements.  I 
also have some crash space here if needed (need advance notice).

The original post with directions can be found here:

http://wally-wabbit.livejournal.com/98241.html

Hope to see you there

Wally_Wabbit

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From renjef at earthlink.net  Fri May 11 21:57:59 2007
From: renjef at earthlink.net (Jeff and Renee Hall)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 21:57:59 -0400
Subject: FL: moveable jaw?
References: <793703.17086.qm@web59205.mail.re1.yahoo.com><4633A1CB.5010709@dirtdeninn.com>
	<606DD186-D78E-4A10-AFFD-DBF95CE9FB7C@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <001401c79438$f8df4650$3ddef904@DDN5BF41>

I also have a foam head. What I ended up doing is making what I call a jaw opener, which is bent from 6 gauge wire, fits under my chin, with 2 blunt prongs that come out away from my mouth a couple inches. The thing is held in place with elastic strips directly to the top and back of my head. Basically, when my mouth opens, the prongs go down because of the movement of my chin.

The foam head then goes on, and the prongs are hidden under some red felt of the head's inner jaw. (The jaw and head are all one piece, but the point of attachment is very minimal, so that the jaw part flops down easily when just a little force is exerted.) So then, theoretically, when I move my jaw, the foam head moves its jaw.

The thing is, I never got it working quite as good as I'd imagined. Even at best, I had to greatly accentuate my jaw movements to get the Jarrell head to move casually. The longer I have the foam head on, the more sweat, and so the more slippage, so that my own jaw movement is wasted on the inner sides of the foam head, instead of specifically on the jaw. What I have, almost, kinda works, but I'd want to do more experimenting and perfect the idea before I ever wanted to try a Jarrell version 2. I too like a moveable jaw because my character is not mute.

Jarrell
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From wallyfox98 at hotmail.com  Wed May 16 19:39:11 2007
From: wallyfox98 at hotmail.com (Wally_Wabbit/Stephen H./Wallyfox)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 19:39:11 -0400
Subject: FL: FINAL REMINDER: Furry/Fursuit Bowling Saturday (5/19)
In-Reply-To: <BAY121-F9C18BC2DB5949BB7CCF2AD0380@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY121-F160995E9B25741CB59D89ED03C0@phx.gbl>


FInal Reminder.  Still plenty of room

Furry/Fursuit Bowling will be taking place this Saturday 5/19/07 at 
Johnson's Duckpin Lanes in Hamden, CT.

Meet time is 1pm and bowl time begins promtly at 2pm.  Cost is $8 per fur 
per hour.  Shoes are extra (if needed -most suiters will not need to wear 
shoes)

All are welcome to attend suit or not.  There is still some space and we can 
handle last minute folks.  If you haven't already please let me know if your 
attending in a private email <wallyfox98 at hotmail.com>.  If you won't know 
until Saturday feel free just to show up at the lanes.

Limited crash space is available please email me ASAP if you need space 
(first come first serve-need notice)

Other activites will follow after bowling.  We may suit again in public, 
take a hike, grab a movie.

Dinner will follow the bowling and folks can use my apartment to 
shower/change (if needed)

Detailed directions can be found in this link:

http://wally-wabbit.livejournal.com/98241.html

Johnson?s Duckpin Lanes
2100 Dixwell Ave (route 10) (In the Hamden Plaza with Shaw's, Petco, and 
Panera)
Hamden, CT
203-248-1563
http://www.johnsonlanes.com/index.cfm
(Lanes are located on the lower side corner of the petco  building behind 
the Thai restaurant near Shaw's)

If anyone would like to meet at my apartment prior to bowling (around 
11:30-12) please send me an email and I will toss you directions there.


See ya all Saturday

Wally_Wabbit
cell # 203-218-4912

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>
>We are meeting for Fursuit/Furry bowling on Saturday 5/19 @1pm at Johnson's
>Duckpin Lanes in Hamden, CT.
>
>All are welcome to attend NO FURSUIT NEEDED TO ATTEND .  We have a total of
>4 lanes and can get more if needed.  If you are planning to attend please
>email me and let me know if you are bowling in or out of suit.
>
>I would like to know ASAP so I can give the alley a strong estimate a 
>couple
>days prior.  So far it looks like about 10 are attending.
>
>Bowling is going to be $8 per hour.  Shoes are extra if needed (Most 
>suiters
>will not need shoes).  If We get over 20 bowlers they will cut the price.
>
>If folks need transportation from the RR station I can make arrangements.  
>I
>also have some crash space here if needed (need advance notice).
>
>The original post with directions can be found here:
>
>http://wally-wabbit.livejournal.com/98241.html
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Wed May 16 22:59:15 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (John Fox Kinsman)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 22:59:15 -0400
Subject: FL: moveable jaw?
In-Reply-To: <606DD186-D78E-4A10-AFFD-DBF95CE9FB7C@flyingfox.biz>
References: <793703.17086.qm@web59205.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<4633A1CB.5010709@dirtdeninn.com>
	<606DD186-D78E-4A10-AFFD-DBF95CE9FB7C@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <01BE587C-1FA8-46B6-BB3E-83FA14FF50E1@flyingfox.biz>

Thanks y'all for your help with the jaw!  I think I'm going to use a  
combination of ideas -I'll let you know how it goes ;)
Thanks!


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
fox at flyingfox.biz




On May 11, 2007, at 9:36 AM, Fox Kinsman wrote:

Anyone have a how-to or tips on making the moveable jaw?
I was originally going to leave it fixed but starting to think about  
making it moveable -I just have no idea where to start the process.   
I've got a foam face (still haven't furred it yet)
Thanks for any help you may have!

Scape

Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



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From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Sun May 20 01:11:18 2007
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (CYANFOX CYANFOX)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 22:11:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: CYANFOX C has sent you a private message
Message-ID: <1515576327.1179637872523.JavaMail.www@job03.flixster.com>

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From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Sun May 20 02:14:06 2007
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (Cyan FOX)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 02:14:06 -0400
Subject: FL: sorry about that x.x
Message-ID: <b1c118750705192314k1ffeb388w73f021ad5de5731a@mail.gmail.com>

sorry about that x.x


it infected my addressbook when i was curious as to who was a friend that
was also a member...

sorries x.x ignore please x.x
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From rj_fox at hotmail.com  Sun May 20 15:32:56 2007
From: rj_fox at hotmail.com (Ryan A.K.A  RJ Fox Michaelis)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 12:32:56 -0700
Subject: FL: sorry about that x.x
Message-ID: <BAY119-W1721FEC39B529ECCBD92F7F9300@phx.gbl>


will do


Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 02:14:06 -0400From: cyan.fox at gmail.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: FL: sorry about that x.xsorry about that x.xit infected my addressbook when i was curious as to who was a friend that was also a member...sorries x.x ignore please x.x
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From liacono at gmail.com  Mon May 21 03:43:31 2007
From: liacono at gmail.com (Lace Aurora)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 00:43:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Lace A has sent you a private message
Message-ID: <1167031004.1179733406868.JavaMail.www@job04.flixster.com>

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From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Mon May 21 04:56:19 2007
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (Cyan FOX)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 04:56:19 -0400
Subject: FL: Lace A has sent you a private message
In-Reply-To: <1167031004.1179733406868.JavaMail.www@job04.flixster.com>
References: <1167031004.1179733406868.JavaMail.www@job04.flixster.com>
Message-ID: <b1c118750705210156r6fdde372mdef59cf50ad5c2e0@mail.gmail.com>

I am so sorry x.x i should have tried manually de-selecting the check  boxes
but i have over 1100 contacts x.x i'm so sorry x.x

On 5/21/07, Lace Aurora <liacono at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   http://www.flixster.com/user/liacono/connect<http://www.flixster.com/servlet/invite/781304017ojzA797274017Btlk9norCm>
>
> Lace A
>
>   This note was sent via Flixster by Lace Aurora (liacono at gmail.com) to
> fursuit-list at fursuit.org. If you prefer not to receive emails like this, tell
> us here <http://www.flixster.com/DoNotSend.jsp?e=fursuit-list at fursuit.org>
> .
> Or you can notify us in writing to this address: Flixster, PO Box 40577,
> San Francisco, CA 94110
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From liacono at gmail.com  Mon May 21 05:00:30 2007
From: liacono at gmail.com (Leonard Iacono)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 05:00:30 -0400
Subject: FL: Lace A has sent you a private message
In-Reply-To: <b1c118750705210156r6fdde372mdef59cf50ad5c2e0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1167031004.1179733406868.JavaMail.www@job04.flixster.com>
	<b1c118750705210156r6fdde372mdef59cf50ad5c2e0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f2eaf4620705210200l75479781g504f68a56f0e9da7@mail.gmail.com>

It's ok. I just trying to protect myself atm cause I dont want anyone
looking me up that isnt furry

-lace

On 5/21/07, Cyan FOX <cyan.fox at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am so sorry x.x i should have tried manually de-selecting the check
> boxes but i have over 1100 contacts x.x i'm so sorry x.x
>
> On 5/21/07, Lace Aurora <liacono at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >   http://www.flixster.com/user/liacono/connect<http://www.flixster.com/servlet/invite/781304017ojzA797274017Btlk9norCm>
> >
> > Lace A
> >
> >   This note was sent via Flixster by Lace Aurora (liacono at gmail.com ) to
> > fursuit-list at fursuit.org. If you prefer not to receive emails like this,
> > tell us here<http://www.flixster.com/DoNotSend.jsp?e=fursuit-list at fursuit.org>
> > .
> > Or you can notify us in writing to this address: Flixster, PO Box 40577,
> > San Francisco, CA 94110
> >
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From fursuit at jovino.com  Mon May 21 13:56:23 2007
From: fursuit at jovino.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?jovino_=A0?=)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:56:23 -0700
Subject: FL: Lace A has sent you a private message
In-Reply-To: <1167031004.1179733406868.JavaMail.www@job04.flixster.com>
References: <1167031004.1179733406868.JavaMail.www@job04.flixster.com>
Message-ID: <90B96C2D-41F1-4638-8D25-C803ED68678A@jovino.com>

What's with this flixter spam? I don't trust anything that culls  
through my address book and blasts our emails. It's how viruses start.


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From n2kenai at aol.com  Mon May 21 15:23:33 2007
From: n2kenai at aol.com (n2kenai at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 15:23:33 -0400
Subject: FL: Lace A has sent you a private message
In-Reply-To: <90B96C2D-41F1-4638-8D25-C803ED68678A@jovino.com>
References: <1167031004.1179733406868.JavaMail.www@job04.flixster.com>
	<90B96C2D-41F1-4638-8D25-C803ED68678A@jovino.com>
Message-ID: <8C969F4A7FA093E-1CF0-2109@FWM-D09.sysops.aol.com>

yes, its and email virus going around. dont sign up. most likey your email list will recieve a join email like you did sorry 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: fursuit at jovino.com
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: FL: Lace A has sent you a private message


What's with this flixter spam? I don't trust anything that culls  
through my address book and blasts our emails. It's how viruses start.


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From jbadger at panix.com  Mon May 21 15:49:13 2007
From: jbadger at panix.com (JBadger badger badger)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 15:49:13 -0400
Subject: FL: Lace A has sent you a private message
In-Reply-To: <b1c118750705210156r6fdde372mdef59cf50ad5c2e0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1167031004.1179733406868.JavaMail.www@job04.flixster.com>
	<b1c118750705210156r6fdde372mdef59cf50ad5c2e0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070521194913.GA14258@jbadger.dnsalias.net>

I found this on google about these guys.... 
http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/is-flixster-a-big-fat-spammer-are-they-hacking-your-aol-or-hotmail-address-book

Do not click
Do not pass go.

-- 
JBadger  ICQ #2686614 -- AOL IM sen3398    -- Come to I-Con http://www.iconsf.org
				????
                Lets go Geocaching http://www.geocaching.com/
   SF, Furry, EMS, CONS, food food spicy food. WWW http://www.jbadger.org/

From streakthetiger at gmail.com  Tue May 22 07:18:09 2007
From: streakthetiger at gmail.com (Streak)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 20:18:09 +0900
Subject: FL: Lace A has sent you a private message
In-Reply-To: <20070521194913.GA14258@jbadger.dnsalias.net>
References: <1167031004.1179733406868.JavaMail.www@job04.flixster.com>
	<b1c118750705210156r6fdde372mdef59cf50ad5c2e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<20070521194913.GA14258@jbadger.dnsalias.net>
Message-ID: <a584d75d0705220418n38d7d8b9wcaea06edd6ece7f6@mail.gmail.com>

Easy for you to say. I could really use those two hundred dollars.

On 5/22/07, JBadger badger badger <jbadger at panix.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Do not click
> Do not pass go.
>
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> http://www.iconsf.org
>                                 ????
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From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Tue May 22 09:41:58 2007
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (Cyan FOX)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 09:41:58 -0400
Subject: FL: okay i recommend everyone who got affected by this Flixter to
	CHANGE THEIR PASSWORD
Message-ID: <b1c118750705220641y61fd8b2cqe7bb9264a1fafc3c@mail.gmail.com>

okay i recommend everyone who got affected by this Flixter to CHANGE
THEIR PASSWORD

i did it, i just combined two passwords that i normally use so it's
still easy for me to remember it's just like twice as long c.c so long
as it has your passwords on file it is able to login as you c.c change
it and maybe it will stop c.c there is no way in heck it cached all of
my 1103 addresses x.x if it did i'mma frenchtoasing eat them x.x

From marcwolf at marcwolf.org  Tue May 22 22:21:05 2007
From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (David Boccabella)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 12:21:05 +1000
Subject: FL: okay i recommend everyone who got affected by this Flixter
	toCHANGE THEIR PASSWORD
In-Reply-To: <b1c118750705220641y61fd8b2cqe7bb9264a1fafc3c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIKEPIEIAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>


Even if one has NOT opened the attachment?
I tend not to open these kind of things by default :>

Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
> [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of Cyan FOX
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2007 23:42
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: FL: okay i recommend everyone who got affected by this
> Flixter toCHANGE THEIR PASSWORD
>
>
> okay i recommend everyone who got affected by this Flixter to CHANGE
> THEIR PASSWORD
>
> i did it, i just combined two passwords that i normally use so it's
> still easy for me to remember it's just like twice as long c.c so long
> as it has your passwords on file it is able to login as you c.c change
> it and maybe it will stop c.c there is no way in heck it cached all of
> my 1103 addresses x.x if it did i'mma frenchtoasing eat them x.x
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>
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/815 - Release Date: 22/05/2007
15:49


From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Tue May 22 22:39:57 2007
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (Cyan FOX)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 22:39:57 -0400
Subject: FL: okay i recommend everyone who got affected by this Flixter
	toCHANGE THEIR PASSWORD
In-Reply-To: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIKEPIEIAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>
References: <b1c118750705220641y61fd8b2cqe7bb9264a1fafc3c@mail.gmail.com>
	<OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIKEPIEIAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>
Message-ID: <b1c118750705221939v603f9c6cjbc8beb7e21488b96@mail.gmail.com>

it's not really an app virus that affects the computer, i was saying
people that "signed up " for the site... now a days websites are in
fact client server "applications" so if it compromises your yahoo or
msn or gmail... i consider that in INFOSYSEC threat a virus in laymans
terms...

On 5/22/07, David Boccabella <marcwolf at marcwolf.org> wrote:
>
> Even if one has NOT opened the attachment?
> I tend not to open these kind of things by default :>
>
> Dave
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
> > [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of Cyan FOX
> > Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2007 23:42
> > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> > Subject: FL: okay i recommend everyone who got affected by this
> > Flixter toCHANGE THEIR PASSWORD
> >
> >
> > okay i recommend everyone who got affected by this Flixter to CHANGE
> > THEIR PASSWORD
> >
> > i did it, i just combined two passwords that i normally use so it's
> > still easy for me to remember it's just like twice as long c.c so long
> > as it has your passwords on file it is able to login as you c.c change
> > it and maybe it will stop c.c there is no way in heck it cached all of
> > my 1103 addresses x.x if it did i'mma frenchtoasing eat them x.x
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date:
> > 21/05/2007 14:01
> >
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
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From baar_bear at cox.net  Mon May 28 22:43:34 2007
From: baar_bear at cox.net (Michael Setzer)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 19:43:34 -0700
Subject: FL: Site Update
Message-ID: <465B9356.1000107@cox.net>

     Greetings all. Just thought I'd let you know that that I've updated 
my fursuiting site.  Go to http://www.baarsden.itgo.com/mc2007.html for 
some pictures of Ba'ar's trip to Morphicon and go to 
http://www.baarsden.itgo.com/baarlife.html for 2 new glimpses into the 
lovable bruin's everyday life.  See you there!


From saebianfrobosh at gmail.com  Wed May 30 18:10:33 2007
From: saebianfrobosh at gmail.com (Saebian Frobosh)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 15:10:33 -0700
Subject: FL: e-mail address
In-Reply-To: <BAY108-F8CD58EDB832D5DAB3C164B2750@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY108-F8CD58EDB832D5DAB3C164B2750@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <b5d7e70b0705301510n3060417fuca62f0dd6d7fbe36@mail.gmail.com>

Hey thanks.. but..  I forgot who this is and and where I know you from..
been rather crazy here

On 3/19/07, Chad Kaskamin <chadjkaskamin at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> hi there
> Here is my e-mail address, chadjkaskamin at hotmail.com.thank you
>
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From saebianfrobosh at gmail.com  Wed May 30 18:10:57 2007
From: saebianfrobosh at gmail.com (Saebian Frobosh)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 15:10:57 -0700
Subject: FL: e-mail address
In-Reply-To: <b5d7e70b0705301510n3060417fuca62f0dd6d7fbe36@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY108-F8CD58EDB832D5DAB3C164B2750@phx.gbl>
	<b5d7e70b0705301510n3060417fuca62f0dd6d7fbe36@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b5d7e70b0705301510g55a01220mae9c460927148b5b@mail.gmail.com>

ack.. oops sorry list did not mean to do this! please ignore



On 5/30/07, Saebian Frobosh <saebianfrobosh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey thanks.. but..  I forgot who this is and and where I know you from..
> been rather crazy here
>
> On 3/19/07, Chad Kaskamin <chadjkaskamin at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > hi there
> > Here is my e-mail address, chadjkaskamin at hotmail.com.thank you
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Thu May 31 12:55:40 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 12:55:40 -0400
Subject: FL: Seam Allowance?
In-Reply-To: <b5d7e70b0705301510n3060417fuca62f0dd6d7fbe36@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY108-F8CD58EDB832D5DAB3C164B2750@phx.gbl>
	<b5d7e70b0705301510n3060417fuca62f0dd6d7fbe36@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <870386E9-0B9F-451A-B27F-B092236A982B@flyingfox.biz>

Hey y'all =)

What kind of seam allowances do you guys use? 1 inch, 3/4"? 1/2"?
Just curious cuz I'm about to start sewing the jumpsuit part.
Thanks for any help you might have!

Oh shoot -almost forgot -any tips on the fabric part that extends  
from the head?  I still haven't furred the head yet but will soon.   
Curious how that part works -from photos it appears to be just  
matching fabric that kinda drapes down to blend with the suit body - 
is there any magic length to it?  Thanks for any help =)

Scape



Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz




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From tjcoyote at pobox.com  Thu May 31 14:20:34 2007
From: tjcoyote at pobox.com (TJCoyote)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 14:20:34 -0400
Subject: FL: Seam Allowance?
In-Reply-To: <870386E9-0B9F-451A-B27F-B092236A982B@flyingfox.biz>
References: <BAY108-F8CD58EDB832D5DAB3C164B2750@phx.gbl>
	<b5d7e70b0705301510n3060417fuca62f0dd6d7fbe36@mail.gmail.com>
	<870386E9-0B9F-451A-B27F-B092236A982B@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20070531141121.01caf010@pop.earthlink.net>

5/8" seam allowance is the standard for commercial patterns.  If you're 
making your own patterns, you can use whatever you want.  Personally, I 
stick with the standard 5/8".

If you're using a commercial pattern, here's a hint -- sew all the front 
pieces together first.  Then sew all the back pieces together.  Safety-pin 
the entire front to the back where you plan to sew.  Put the bodysuit on 
inside-out. Then adjust the safety pins in or out until you get the fit you 
want.

As for the head... there's at least two ways to do it.  A lot of fursuiters 
put a flap on the head as you're describing.  Some tuck it in, others 
don't.  But depending on the type of head you have, you can put a 
"turtleneck" on the bodysuit instead.  It blends better than a 
not-tucked-in flap and length isn't an issue either.

-- TJCoyote

At 12:55 PM 5/31/2007, you wrote:
>Hey y'all =)
>
>What kind of seam allowances do you guys use? 1 inch, 3/4"? 1/2"?
>Just curious cuz I'm about to start sewing the jumpsuit part.
>Thanks for any help you might have!
>
>Oh shoot -almost forgot -any tips on the fabric part that extends from the 
>head?  I still haven't furred the head yet but will soon.  Curious how 
>that part works -from photos it appears to be just matching fabric that 
>kinda drapes down to blend with the suit body -is there any magic length 
>to it?  Thanks for any help =)
>
>Scape
>
>
>
>Fox =^_^=
>John Fox Kinsman
>www.flyingfox.biz
>
>
>
>
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Thu May 31 15:59:13 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 12:59:13 -0700
Subject: FL: Seam Allowance?
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20070531141121.01caf010@pop.earthlink.net>
References: <BAY108-F8CD58EDB832D5DAB3C164B2750@phx.gbl>
	<b5d7e70b0705301510n3060417fuca62f0dd6d7fbe36@mail.gmail.com>
	<870386E9-0B9F-451A-B27F-B092236A982B@flyingfox.biz>
	<6.1.2.0.2.20070531141121.01caf010@pop.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0705311259h15d3742cp16c73510fa787f47@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/31/07, TJCoyote <tjcoyote at pobox.com> wrote:
> 5/8" seam allowance is the standard for commercial patterns.  If you're
> making your own patterns, you can use whatever you want.  Personally, I
> stick with the standard 5/8".
>
> If you're using a commercial pattern, here's a hint -- sew all the front
> pieces together first.  Then sew all the back pieces together.  Safety-pin
> the entire front to the back where you plan to sew.  Put the bodysuit on
> inside-out. Then adjust the safety pins in or out until you get the fit you
> want.

Since I use a serger than a sewing machine. I sew the front parts
together. Then the back parts together. Then I sew the back to the
front. Then I put it on and adjust for size. Since the serger cuts and
sews at the same time its easyer that way.

>
> As for the head... there's at least two ways to do it.  A lot of fursuiters
> put a flap on the head as you're describing.  Some tuck it in, others
> don't.  But depending on the type of head you have, you can put a
> "turtleneck" on the bodysuit instead.  It blends better than a
> not-tucked-in flap and length isn't an issue either.

I have found that is better my self also. It gives a better look and
the seam between the head and body suit is not as easy to see acrost a
room. When you turn your head you dont see a big flap of materal
moving with your head.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

From santafox at comcast.net  Thu May 31 16:23:50 2007
From: santafox at comcast.net (Santa Fox)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 20:23:50 +0000
Subject: FL: Seam Allowance?
Message-ID: <053120072023.3183.465F2ED60002295E00000C6F22058864429801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>

> > As for the head... there's at least two ways to do it.  A lot of fursuiters
> > put a flap on the head as you're describing.  Some tuck it in, others
> > don't.  But depending on the type of head you have, you can put a
> > "turtleneck" on the bodysuit instead.  It blends better than a
> > not-tucked-in flap and length isn't an issue either.
> 
> I have found that is better my self also. It gives a better look and
> the seam between the head and body suit is not as easy to see acrost a
> room. When you turn your head you dont see a big flap of materal
> moving with your head.

I'll strongly second the 'turtleneck' idea - when I rebuilt my Santa Fox suit last year, I switched from the flap design to the turtleneck design and I'd never go back now.  It's especially nice if you want to wear *anything* around your neck, since removing your head won't involve having to remove and replace any items around your neck, as would be the case with a flap design.  Since I always wear a bell collar with my fox costume, not to mention normal badges and such, no longer having the neck flaps makes a huge difference when I'm playing fursuit games or doing other high-energy activites and want to duck in somewhere and take a quick break.

Cheers,
Santa Fox

From rsg0910 at iglou.com  Thu May 31 16:16:35 2007
From: rsg0910 at iglou.com (Robert Goodwin)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 16:16:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: FL: Seam Allowance?
In-Reply-To: <no.id> from "TJCoyote" at May 31, 2007 02:20:34 PM
Message-ID: <E1Htr4V-00005H-QT@shell1.iglou.com>

> 5/8" seam allowance is the standard for commercial patterns.  If you're 
> making your own patterns, you can use whatever you want.  Personally, I 
> stick with the standard 5/8".

I usually add 1/2" on the pattern where it will be sewn, more as needed. I 
usually handsew, but when it comes to zippers, I'll machine sew. TJ's got 
a good point with extra allowances.

> If you're using a commercial pattern, here's a hint -- sew all the front 
> pieces together first.  Then sew all the back pieces together.  Safety-pin 
> the entire front to the back where you plan to sew.  Put the bodysuit on 

What I've done is make my own pattern from someone's duct tape dummy and 
use muslin for the bodysuit mockup. That way I can see how well it'll fit 
and where the problems may be including zipper placement and fix them for 
the second mockup which can fit and look better than the first. This will 
also have markings as to how much extra to add on or take off and seam 
allowances. It's all held together by large safety pins.

Sure, it takes time, but is worth it and muslin's quite cheap and you can 
reuse it as your pattern. When I transfer the pattern to the fur, I'll use 
chalk and mark what piece is what and where the lay of the fur goes.

I'll usually add on the "turtleneck" part after the bodysuit is finished, 
adding on a spot of velcro for closing. Jarrell's suit had extra on the 
head, so even if he tucked it in or not, he'd still look good. The zipper 
was one of those jacket type of things so he could put on the tail and 
then the bodysuit.

-boogi-
[getting ready to take a summer class]

-- 
Homepage: http://www.furnation.com/boogi/
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From jambrassard at earthlink.net  Thu May 31 19:41:20 2007
From: jambrassard at earthlink.net (Michel Brassard)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 19:41:20 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: FL: Seam Allowance?
Message-ID: <66938.1180654880187.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

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From kody_wolf at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  1 12:48:33 2007
From: kody_wolf at yahoo.com (Kody Wolf)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 09:48:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 14, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1180713604.22281.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <398889.77451.qm@web62515.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Extra note here on seam allowance, one thing to look at is your type of fabric, usually fur is really thick, so in some cases 5/8" isn't enough on long pile un-shaved fur.  I'd say anything over 1/2" pile, you should maybe goto a 1" seam allowance. Seam allowance is also dependant on how tightly woven or loose your fabric is. If you're sewning something like muslin, it's a loose woven fabric - 5/8" would do fine, but I'd say nothing less than that. If you're doing a standard cotton, or cotton blend, you can go down to as little as 1/4" or less, but not recommended because the seam might break. You wanta give room enough for the fabric to stretch a little bit and not break or rip seams.

:) maybe that was a little too detailed .. sorry!
Have fun!
(Sewning neoprene is a pain in the butt! I'm doing a custom zipper replacement - it's prolly the hardest thing I've ever sewed for my orca wetsuit/"fursuit" it doesn't fit in a sewning machine.)

~Kody Wolf

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Today's Topics:

   1.  Seam Allowance? (Fox Kinsman)
   2. Re:  Seam Allowance? (TJCoyote)
   3. Re:  Seam Allowance? (Donkey)
   4. Re:  Seam Allowance? (Santa Fox)
   5. Re:  Seam Allowance? (Robert Goodwin)
   6. Re:  Seam Allowance? (Michel Brassard)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 12:55:40 -0400
From: Fox Kinsman 
Subject: FL: Seam Allowance?
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Message-ID: <870386E9-0B9F-451A-B27F-B092236A982B at flyingfox.biz>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hey y'all =)

What kind of seam allowances do you guys use? 1 inch, 3/4"? 1/2"?
Just curious cuz I'm about to start sewing the jumpsuit part.
Thanks for any help you might have!

Oh shoot -almost forgot -any tips on the fabric part that extends  
from the head?  I still haven't furred the head yet but will soon.   
Curious how that part works -from photos it appears to be just  
matching fabric that kinda drapes down to blend with the suit body - 
is there any magic length to it?  Thanks for any help =)

Scape



Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz




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Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 14:20:34 -0400
From: TJCoyote 
Subject: Re: FL: Seam Allowance?
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5/8" seam allowance is the standard for commercial patterns.  If you're 
making your own patterns, you can use whatever you want.  Personally, I 
stick with the standard 5/8".

If you're using a commercial pattern, here's a hint -- sew all the front 
pieces together first.  Then sew all the back pieces together.  Safety-pin 
the entire front to the back where you plan to sew.  Put the bodysuit on 
inside-out. Then adjust the safety pins in or out until you get the fit you 
want.

As for the head... there's at least two ways to do it.  A lot of fursuiters 
put a flap on the head as you're describing.  Some tuck it in, others 
don't.  But depending on the type of head you have, you can put a 
"turtleneck" on the bodysuit instead.  It blends better than a 
not-tucked-in flap and length isn't an issue either.

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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Fri Jun  1 13:14:36 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 13:14:36 -0400
Subject: FL: Seam Allowance?
In-Reply-To: <870386E9-0B9F-451A-B27F-B092236A982B@flyingfox.biz>
References: <BAY108-F8CD58EDB832D5DAB3C164B2750@phx.gbl>
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Thanks so much everyone -this is all great information!
I think I'll go with an inch to be safe then -I've got different pile  
lengths and an Inch sounds really good to work with.  I've not got a  
serger but an old singer that I spin the wheel on by hand as the   
pedal drives way too fast lol.  I'll post a link to some photos when  
I'm done which will hopefully be in the next couple months.  Man this  
gives me a whole different perspective and appreciation for all the  
suits that I see now and especially for you who make them regularly.
I'm sure I'll have another question before I finish this.
Thanks again for all the help! =)
Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



On May 31, 2007, at 12:55 PM, Fox Kinsman wrote:

Hey y'all =)

What kind of seam allowances do you guys use? 1 inch, 3/4"? 1/2"?
Just curious cuz I'm about to start sewing the jumpsuit part.
Thanks for any help you might have!

Oh shoot -almost forgot -any tips on the fabric part that extends  
from the head?  I still haven't furred the head yet but will soon.   
Curious how that part works -from photos it appears to be just  
matching fabric that kinda drapes down to blend with the suit body - 
is there any magic length to it?  Thanks for any help =)

Scape



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From Karen.Upfront at shaw.ca  Fri Jun  1 13:00:57 2007
From: Karen.Upfront at shaw.ca (Upfront Mascots)
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 11:00:57 -0600
Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 14, Issue 1
References: <398889.77451.qm@web62515.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <015001c7a46e$6c600b60$6401a8c0@ownerafab910f5>

some tricks to sewing neoprene is put powder on the fabric it slides better or wax paper between the fabric and the zipper foot. If you can get a Teflon zipper foot they take away all the problems and sewing should not be a problem. As for seam allowance we serge all pieces first then do a double seam as close to the edge as possible works great. If it is fur then brush out the seams when you are done with a wire brush. good luck.
Karen 
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  Subject: Re: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 14, Issue 1


  Extra note here on seam allowance, one thing to look at is your type of fabric, usually fur is really thick, so in some cases 5/8" isn't enough on long pile un-shaved fur.  I'd say anything over 1/2" pile, you should maybe goto a 1" seam allowance. Seam allowance is also dependant on how tightly woven or loose your fabric is. If you're sewning something like muslin, it's a loose woven fabric - 5/8" would do fine, but I'd say nothing less than that. If you're doing a standard cotton, or cotton blend, you can go down to as little as 1/4" or less, but not recommended because the seam might break. You wanta give room enough for the fabric to stretch a little bit and not break or rip seams.

  :) maybe that was a little too detailed .. sorry!
  Have fun!
  (Sewning neoprene is a pain in the butt! I'm doing a custom zipper replacement - it's prolly the hardest thing I've ever sewed for my orca wetsuit/"fursuit" it doesn't fit in a sewning machine.)

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    Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 12:55:40 -0400
    From: Fox Kinsman 
    Subject: FL: Seam Allowance?
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    Hey y'all =)

    What kind of seam allowances do you guys use? 1 inch, 3/4"? 1/2"?
    Just curious cuz I'm about to start sewing the jumpsuit part.
    Thanks for any help you might have!

    Oh shoot -almost forgot -any tips on the fabric part that extends 
    from the head? I still haven't furred the head yet but will soon. 
    Curious how that part works -from photos it appears to be just 
    matching fabric that kinda drapes down to blend with the suit body - 
    is there any magic length to it? Thanks for any help =)

    Scape



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    Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 14:20:34 -0400
    From: TJCoyote 
    Subject: Re: FL: Seam Allowance?
    To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
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    5/8" seam allowance is the standard for commercial patterns. If you're 
    making your own patterns, you can use whatever you want. Personally, I 
    stick with the standard 5/8".

    If you're using a commercial pattern, here's a hint -- sew all the front 
    pieces together first. Then sew all the back pieces together. Safety-pin 
    the entire front to the back where you plan to sew. Put the bodysuit on 
    inside-out. Then adjust the safety pins in or out until you get the fit you 
    want.

    As for the head... there's at least two ways to do it. A lot of fursuiters 
    put a flap on the head as you're describing. Some tuck it in, others 
    don't. But depending on the type of head you have, you can put a 
    "turtleneck" on the bodysuit instead. It blends better than a 
    not-tucked-in flap and length isn't an issue either.

    -- TJCoyote




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From sewcrazy at brightusa.net  Fri Jun  1 15:26:28 2007
From: sewcrazy at brightusa.net (Sharon)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 15:26:28 -0400
Subject: FL: sewing seams/seam allowances
In-Reply-To: <398889.77451.qm@web62515.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200706011926.l51JQSNK019999@sparky.bright.net>

Use whatever seam allowance you like for the density of the fabric. BUT. Add
a 2mm zigzag right along side if you don?t have a serger dedicated to pile
fabrics. This is insurance against wear and tear at the seams.

 

I like to use a walking foot machine by Thompson, to sew any thing that
?sticks? to the machine, is more than ?? thick, or likes to slide on you
when you sew with a regular machine. It?s good for leather, vinyl, canvas,
thick fur, and that pesky neoprene. You can get a rolling foot for most
machines that can help with shifting layers. Also use some thin paper strips
along fabric to ease the sewing along. Just put the paper strips on seam
line on top and underneath and it will help get the job through the machine.
Newspaper print, tissue paper, or whatever is handy. You can leave the paper
if it is really thin or just rip it off along perforations made by the
stitching.

 

 (Sewing neoprene is a pain in the butt! I'm doing a custom zipper
replacement - it's prolly the hardest thing I've ever sewed for my orca
wetsuit/"fursuit" it doesn't fit in a sewning machine.)




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From fursuit at jovino.com  Sat Jun  2 04:01:13 2007
From: fursuit at jovino.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?jovino_=A0?=)
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 01:01:13 -0700
Subject: FL: Seam Allowance?
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This is not entirely true. Sergers will typically stitch an overlock  
1/4" from the edge. So, theoretically, 1/4" is your seam allowance.  
Some sergers have an adjustable stitch depth, so depending on your  
project it can be anywhere from 1/8" and up. If your serger includes  
a "safety stitch," then your seam allowance could be 1/2" or more.

I've looked through your presentation, which is a pretty good  
introduction to sergers. I also must agree that using a flatlock  
stitch that you are highlighting your seam allowance is indeed  
reduced to zero. Personally, I would not trust a flatlock stitch on  
fake fur simply because of the loose fabric weave. Tight suits will  
strain the seams a considerable amount and will most likely lead to  
frayed fabric edges and a suit that will fall apart with too much  
wear and tear (highlight on the tear). This, of course, is my  
personal opinion on the matter; so feel free to disagree and argue  
your point. :)


Commercial (store-bought) patterns use a 5/8" seam allowance and  
industrial sewing (manufactured garments) standards use 1/2" and 1/4"  
allowances; depending on where the seam resides.

Me? I sew for a living and I abide by the 1/2" industrial standard  
because that's where my company is headed. The least amount of  
modifications to my patterns that I need to make in order to prepare  
for production, the better.


  _   _
| |_| |
[~ x ~]
/    \
\____/D
jovino

On May 31, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Michel Brassard wrote:

> Well, it depends on what sort of machine you are using.  If you are  
> using a serger and select a flat-lock stitch, no seam allowance is  
> needed at all.  I've made use of this Powerpoint presentation by  
> Alopex to serge together some nice, skin-tight bodysuits: http:// 
> www.lycanthrope.net/~alopex/download/AloSerger.pdf
>
> J. A. Michel Brassard - a.k.a. Michel Mephit
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fox Kinsman
> Sent: May 31, 2007 12:55 PM
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: FL: Seam Allowance?
>
> Hey y'all =)
>
> What kind of seam allowances do you guys use? 1 inch, 3/4"? 1/2"?
> Just curious cuz I'm about to start sewing the jumpsuit part.
> Thanks for any help you might have!
>
> Oh shoot -almost forgot -any tips on the fabric part that extends  
> from the head?  I still haven't furred the head yet but will soon.   
> Curious how that part works -from photos it appears to be just  
> matching fabric that kinda drapes down to blend with the suit body - 
> is there any magic length to it?  Thanks for any help =)
>
> Scape
>
>
>
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> www.flyingfox.biz
>
>
>
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From godlyboy423 at yahoo.com  Sat Jun  2 08:46:00 2007
From: godlyboy423 at yahoo.com (Dalton Dale)
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 05:46:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Seam Allowance?
In-Reply-To: <F38913E2-57B1-4539-8F6C-4B657E5D3FD2@jovino.com>
Message-ID: <460529.16341.qm@web50810.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM THIS LIST.
THANKS.

jovino   <fursuit at jovino.com> wrote: This is not entirely true. Sergers will typically stitch an overlock  
1/4" from the edge. So, theoretically, 1/4" is your seam allowance.  
Some sergers have an adjustable stitch depth, so depending on your  
project it can be anywhere from 1/8" and up. If your serger includes  
a "safety stitch," then your seam allowance could be 1/2" or more.

I've looked through your presentation, which is a pretty good  
introduction to sergers. I also must agree that using a flatlock  
stitch that you are highlighting your seam allowance is indeed  
reduced to zero. Personally, I would not trust a flatlock stitch on  
fake fur simply because of the loose fabric weave. Tight suits will  
strain the seams a considerable amount and will most likely lead to  
frayed fabric edges and a suit that will fall apart with too much  
wear and tear (highlight on the tear). This, of course, is my  
personal opinion on the matter; so feel free to disagree and argue  
your point. :)


Commercial (store-bought) patterns use a 5/8" seam allowance and  
industrial sewing (manufactured garments) standards use 1/2" and 1/4"  
allowances; depending on where the seam resides.

Me? I sew for a living and I abide by the 1/2" industrial standard  
because that's where my company is headed. The least amount of  
modifications to my patterns that I need to make in order to prepare  
for production, the better.


  _   _
| |_| |
[~ x ~]
/    \
\____/D
jovino

On May 31, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Michel Brassard wrote:

> Well, it depends on what sort of machine you are using.  If you are  
> using a serger and select a flat-lock stitch, no seam allowance is  
> needed at all.  I've made use of this Powerpoint presentation by  
> Alopex to serge together some nice, skin-tight bodysuits: http:// 
> www.lycanthrope.net/~alopex/download/AloSerger.pdf
>
> J. A. Michel Brassard - a.k.a. Michel Mephit
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fox Kinsman
> Sent: May 31, 2007 12:55 PM
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: FL: Seam Allowance?
>
> Hey y'all =)
>
> What kind of seam allowances do you guys use? 1 inch, 3/4"? 1/2"?
> Just curious cuz I'm about to start sewing the jumpsuit part.
> Thanks for any help you might have!
>
> Oh shoot -almost forgot -any tips on the fabric part that extends  
> from the head?  I still haven't furred the head yet but will soon.   
> Curious how that part works -from photos it appears to be just  
> matching fabric that kinda drapes down to blend with the suit body - 
> is there any magic length to it?  Thanks for any help =)
>
> Scape
>
>
>
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> www.flyingfox.biz
>
>
>
>
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From jambrassard at earthlink.net  Sat Jun  2 09:00:47 2007
From: jambrassard at earthlink.net (Michel Brassard)
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 09:00:47 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: FL: Seam Allowance?
Message-ID: <4335018.1180789247502.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

All I can say is that Alopex's flatlock serging system seems to work well for me.  I have not had any tearing issues.  Of course, I suppose it depends on the quality of the fur.  I've seen some furs with a very thin, light backing, and can imagine it fraying.  My latest fursuit has a rather heavy backing and some 2-way stretch to it, which helps in distributing the stress.

J. A. Michel Brassard - a.k.a. Michel Mephit

-----Original Message-----
>From: jovino   <fursuit at jovino.com>
>Sent: Jun 2, 2007 4:01 AM
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: Re: FL: Seam Allowance?
>
>This is not entirely true. Sergers will typically stitch an overlock  
>1/4" from the edge. So, theoretically, 1/4" is your seam allowance.  
>Some sergers have an adjustable stitch depth, so depending on your  
>project it can be anywhere from 1/8" and up. If your serger includes  
>a "safety stitch," then your seam allowance could be 1/2" or more.
>
>I've looked through your presentation, which is a pretty good  
>introduction to sergers. I also must agree that using a flatlock  
>stitch that you are highlighting your seam allowance is indeed  
>reduced to zero. Personally, I would not trust a flatlock stitch on  
>fake fur simply because of the loose fabric weave. Tight suits will  
>strain the seams a considerable amount and will most likely lead to  
>frayed fabric edges and a suit that will fall apart with too much  
>wear and tear (highlight on the tear). This, of course, is my  
>personal opinion on the matter; so feel free to disagree and argue  
>your point. :)
>
>
>Commercial (store-bought) patterns use a 5/8" seam allowance and  
>industrial sewing (manufactured garments) standards use 1/2" and 1/4"  
>allowances; depending on where the seam resides.
>
>Me? I sew for a living and I abide by the 1/2" industrial standard  
>because that's where my company is headed. The least amount of  
>modifications to my patterns that I need to make in order to prepare  
>for production, the better.
>
>
>  _   _
>| |_| |
>[~ x ~]
>/    \
>\____/D
>jovino
>
>On May 31, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Michel Brassard wrote:
>
>> Well, it depends on what sort of machine you are using.  If you are  
>> using a serger and select a flat-lock stitch, no seam allowance is  
>> needed at all.  I've made use of this Powerpoint presentation by  
>> Alopex to serge together some nice, skin-tight bodysuits: http:// 
>> www.lycanthrope.net/~alopex/download/AloSerger.pdf
>>
>> J. A. Michel Brassard - a.k.a. Michel Mephit
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Fox Kinsman
>> Sent: May 31, 2007 12:55 PM
>> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>> Subject: FL: Seam Allowance?
>>
>> Hey y'all =)
>>
>> What kind of seam allowances do you guys use? 1 inch, 3/4"? 1/2"?
>> Just curious cuz I'm about to start sewing the jumpsuit part.
>> Thanks for any help you might have!
>>
>> Oh shoot -almost forgot -any tips on the fabric part that extends  
>> from the head?  I still haven't furred the head yet but will soon.   
>> Curious how that part works -from photos it appears to be just  
>> matching fabric that kinda drapes down to blend with the suit body - 
>> is there any magic length to it?  Thanks for any help =)
>>
>> Scape
>>
>>
>>
>> Fox =^_^=
>> John Fox Kinsman
>> www.flyingfox.biz
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From rigeldc at verizon.net  Sat Jun  9 14:47:08 2007
From: rigeldc at verizon.net (Brian Harris)
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 14:47:08 -0400
Subject: FL: Anthrocon 2007 Masquerade Information (6/07)
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20070609144646.012d7d90@incoming.verizon.net>

Anthrocon 2007 is almost here, July 5-8!

Now accepting visual media including animation, music video, and recorded 
performances!

If you are a costumer or visual artist and would like to participate in the 
Masquerade, here is what you should do:

1. Visit Anthrocon 2007's homepage for convention details 
(http://www.anthrocon.org).
2. Review the latest draft of the Anthrocon 2007 Masquerade FAQ and rules 
on the Anthrocon webpage in the Events>Masquerade>Masquerade Rules section.
3. Contact me at masquerade.2007(at)anthrocon.org to confirm your 
participation or to get on the informational mailing list.

Once signed up, you will be added to an e-mail list which will receive 
information about the Masquerade up through contime, how to prepare for it, 
and how things will be organized.

If you have any questions about the Anthrocon 2007 Masquerade, you can also 
send them to masquerade.2007(at)anthrocon.org for a prompt reply.

Hope to hear from you!
   


From tygrcwby at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 13 12:32:30 2007
From: tygrcwby at hotmail.com (Christopher "Tyger" Roth)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:32:30 -0500
Subject: FL: Saint Louis Pride 2007 *RSVP's Needed*!
Message-ID: <BAY131-DAV131817DBF1B08BBD736034D8180@phx.gbl>

This year Saint Louis will again be having an awesome weekend of activities 
for Pride and the Furs will too!



When? June 22-24, 2007 (yes, I know the other things happening that weekend)



Friday night we will be meeting up for dinner at Qdoba at the corner of 
Arsenal and Grand for those arriving early enough. Then over to Mokabe's 
Coffee House for coffee (it's right across from Tower Grove Park and Qdoba 
at the corner of Arsenal and Grand)



Saturday we will head off to breakfast and then to the Pride Fest at Tower 
Grove Park.



Saturday afternoon the group needs to vote on what we are doing..



Your choices are..



Potluck at the Big Blue House.

We ask everyone to bring what they would like to throw on the grill and also 
a salad, side dish or dessert to share (should feed 6-8 people) We will have 
plates, plasticware, cups and ice tea. If you want anything else please feel 
free to bring it.



Or..



For something a little different this year, going to Incredible Pizza 
http://www.incrediblepizza.com/ for dinner and games. (no plans for 
fursuiting since Sunday will be such a hard day on fursuiters)



Saturday evening we will take a group to the Bad Dog Saloon for drinks, 
darts, pool and socializing



Sunday, we will be meeting up at the BBH at 8am SHARP! and then grab a quick 
bite of breakfast at Hardee's and then over to the Parade route for line up. 
Bob and Jim, two of the owners of the Bad Dog Saloon have graciously offered 
to let us suit up at their house which is just about a block and a half from 
the parade route.



This year we have again been invited by two groups to join in their parade 
entries



Cheap TRX, who will be doing a "Pirate" themed entry in the parade



And.



The Bad Dog Saloon, who will be doing a open community (everyone is welcome 
gay, straight, trans, bi, lesbian) and "Canine" themed entry.





If you want to be in the parade, I need to know which entry you want to be a 
part of!! This is VERY important!!



 If you don't want to be in the parade, it's all good! Outside of Cheap TRX 
is a perfect vantage point to see the parade!



After the parade we will head to Chris's Pancakes and Dining for lunch.



This is an "All Welcoming" weekend. Everyone is invited and welcome to 
participate in what ever they wish to. This means you don't have to be Gay, 
Bi, Lesbian, Trans to participate.  It's just a perfect weekend for everyone 
to get together and have a good time! The "No Drama" sign will be up for the 
weekend.



I do still have just 2 rooms left at the rate of $78 per night plus tax at 
the Best Western Kirkwood Inn. If you would like one of these rooms, I need 
to know by 6/17.



If you would like more details or want to RSVP please email 
mideonwerewolf at gmail.com I need to know which events you are planning to 
attend, which of the Saturday dinner options you prefer and if you are 
planning to be in the parade, which entry you want to be a part of. I need 
all RSVP's by 6/17 so we can plan accordingly!


From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Wed Jun 13 13:04:02 2007
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (Cyan FOX)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:04:02 -0400
Subject: FL: Saint Louis Pride 2007 *RSVP's Needed*!
In-Reply-To: <BAY131-DAV131817DBF1B08BBD736034D8180@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY131-DAV131817DBF1B08BBD736034D8180@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <b1c118750706131004v2627b994y7c8d8fc18b9e198d@mail.gmail.com>

i love you tyger i wish i could attend ;_;

On 6/13/07, Christopher Tyger Roth <tygrcwby at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> This year Saint Louis will again be having an awesome weekend of
> activities
> for Pride and the Furs will too!
>
>
>
> When? June 22-24, 2007 (yes, I know the other things happening that
> weekend)
>
>
>
> Friday night we will be meeting up for dinner at Qdoba at the corner of
> Arsenal and Grand for those arriving early enough. Then over to Mokabe's
> Coffee House for coffee (it's right across from Tower Grove Park and Qdoba
> at the corner of Arsenal and Grand)
>
>
>
> Saturday we will head off to breakfast and then to the Pride Fest at Tower
> Grove Park.
>
>
>
> Saturday afternoon the group needs to vote on what we are doing..
>
>
>
> Your choices are..
>
>
>
> Potluck at the Big Blue House.
>
> We ask everyone to bring what they would like to throw on the grill and
> also
> a salad, side dish or dessert to share (should feed 6-8 people) We will
> have
> plates, plasticware, cups and ice tea. If you want anything else please
> feel
> free to bring it.
>
>
>
> Or..
>
>
>
> For something a little different this year, going to Incredible Pizza
> http://www.incrediblepizza.com/ for dinner and games. (no plans for
> fursuiting since Sunday will be such a hard day on fursuiters)
>
>
>
> Saturday evening we will take a group to the Bad Dog Saloon for drinks,
> darts, pool and socializing
>
>
>
> Sunday, we will be meeting up at the BBH at 8am SHARP! and then grab a
> quick
> bite of breakfast at Hardee's and then over to the Parade route for line
> up.
> Bob and Jim, two of the owners of the Bad Dog Saloon have graciously
> offered
> to let us suit up at their house which is just about a block and a half
> from
> the parade route.
>
>
>
> This year we have again been invited by two groups to join in their parade
> entries
>
>
>
> Cheap TRX, who will be doing a "Pirate" themed entry in the parade
>
>
>
> And.
>
>
>
> The Bad Dog Saloon, who will be doing a open community (everyone is
> welcome
> gay, straight, trans, bi, lesbian) and "Canine" themed entry.
>
>
>
>
>
> If you want to be in the parade, I need to know which entry you want to be
> a
> part of!! This is VERY important!!
>
>
>
> If you don't want to be in the parade, it's all good! Outside of Cheap TRX
> is a perfect vantage point to see the parade!
>
>
>
> After the parade we will head to Chris's Pancakes and Dining for lunch.
>
>
>
> This is an "All Welcoming" weekend. Everyone is invited and welcome to
> participate in what ever they wish to. This means you don't have to be
> Gay,
> Bi, Lesbian, Trans to participate.  It's just a perfect weekend for
> everyone
> to get together and have a good time! The "No Drama" sign will be up for
> the
> weekend.
>
>
>
> I do still have just 2 rooms left at the rate of $78 per night plus tax at
> the Best Western Kirkwood Inn. If you would like one of these rooms, I
> need
> to know by 6/17.
>
>
>
> If you would like more details or want to RSVP please email
> mideonwerewolf at gmail.com I need to know which events you are planning to
> attend, which of the Saturday dinner options you prefer and if you are
> planning to be in the parade, which entry you want to be a part of. I need
> all RSVP's by 6/17 so we can plan accordingly!
>
> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
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From blue_heel at fsun.net  Thu Jun 14 20:20:50 2007
From: blue_heel at fsun.net (Doctor)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:20:50 -0500
Subject: FL: It's getting closer
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20070614190831.0257ad80@mail.fsun.net>

It's Coming..... So make sure you start planning...


---
  *Ace Rothstein *: Back home, they put me in jail for what I'm doing. 
Here, they give me awards.

---

Yes, you can win awards at the Masquarade at this years Mephit 
FurMeet.  Planning now can help smooth over the process.  Also, feel free 
to join the MFM Performance list to request help for your act.  Email Blue 
for details. There is plenty of talent around.  Keep in mind that the sign 
up for the Masq will take place on Friday.

It's BIG, it's BOLD, it's VEGAS baby.

Blue

--
Blue Heeler SunFire
Original member of FSUN (Furry Supporters of Universal Networks)
Blue_Heel on Undernet; FurryMuck; SPR; Tapestries; Yukon Trails
Furry Writer; art collector
www.fsun.net/blue_heel
Furry Code available upon request.  


From sales at action-actors.com  Sun Jun 17 09:40:54 2007
From: sales at action-actors.com (Corey Sosner)
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:40:54 -0400
Subject: FL: Looking for a couple of freelance artist's to work in shop.
In-Reply-To: <005601c6e11c$34474e20$0a01a8c0@growl>
Message-ID: <0JJS002588OM1K00@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

I have been on here for awhile, and enjoyed many the conversations and great
workmanship that's available on this forum, our shop is currently seeking a
few free lance artisans who have experience with fur suits. Before we look
to the Art schools or Mandy.COM I thought I would post up here.

                 Our shop is located in the central jersey area, so
commuting from Philly or NYC is not a problem please let us know as soon as
possible these positions won't last.

Thanks

Corey Sosner

President 

Action-Actors

  _____  

From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
[mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Growl
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:31 PM
To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org
Subject: FL: The Original Fursuit Database - http://www.fur-suit.org/

 

I'm writing to let everyone know about the original fursuit database which
Radjin and Timduru are running.  It's located at http://www.fur-suit.org/
It's been running for a while now but I'm fairly sure that there are quite a
few folks who still don't know about it.  This is a user friendly and fully
searchable site created to capture the best representation of  your fursuits
for future posterity.

 

-Growl

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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Sun Jun 17 20:39:17 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (John Fox Kinsman)
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 20:39:17 -0400
Subject: FL: Pattern for digitigrade leg?
In-Reply-To: <4335018.1180789247502.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <4335018.1180789247502.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <54F11F06-4C24-457D-A60F-14925C95F3FF@flyingfox.biz>

Hello!

I've started work on my pattern and am in the process of pinning the  
muslin mock-ups.  I've got the foam leg fronts and the foam "ankles"  
but I'm having a bit of a time coming up with a suitable pattern  
design to fit nicely over and around the foam.  Anyone have a  
specific pattern they've come up with and are able to share or any  
suggestions?  I'm working with the McCall's 8953.
Thanks!
Scape

Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
fox at flyingfox.biz





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From solion at comcast.net  Mon Jun 18 01:48:54 2007
From: solion at comcast.net (Lionel Vogt)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 01:48:54 -0400
Subject: FL: Looking for a couple of freelance artist's to work in shop.
References: <0JJS002588OM1K00@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <002401c7b16c$5babf990$aa00a8c0@lioni35z8u5vou>

Sadly my shop is located in Atlanta Georgia, or I would love to apply for the position.  If however you need to farm out any work please feel free to contact me 

Lionel Vogt 
Artist/owner Lion of the sun productions 
www.lionofthesun.com/gallery 


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Corey Sosner 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 9:40 AM
  Subject: FL: Looking for a couple of freelance artist's to work in shop.


  I have been on here for awhile, and enjoyed many the conversations and great workmanship that's available on this forum, our shop is currently seeking a few free lance artisans who have experience with fur suits. Before we look to the Art schools or Mandy.COM I thought I would post up here.

                   Our shop is located in the central jersey area, so commuting from Philly or NYC is not a problem please let us know as soon as possible these positions won't last.

  Thanks

  Corey Sosner

  President 

  Action-Actors


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  From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Growl
  Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:31 PM
  To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org
  Subject: FL: The Original Fursuit Database - http://www.fur-suit.org/

   

  I'm writing to let everyone know about the original fursuit database which Radjin and Timduru are running.  It's located at http://www.fur-suit.org/  It's been running for a while now but I'm fairly sure that there are quite a few folks who still don't know about it.  This is a user friendly and fully searchable site created to capture the best representation of  your fursuits for future posterity.

   

  -Growl



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From shymatsilupine at aol.com  Mon Jun 18 17:39:16 2007
From: shymatsilupine at aol.com (shymatsilupine at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:39:16 -0400
Subject: FL: FA:United is looking for Fursuiters to host a panel!
Message-ID: <8C98008417CCA33-10A8-BC97@WEBMAIL-MA13.sysops.aol.com>

FA:United! The new convention starting August 10th 2007 in New Jersey is looking for fursuiters to host panels! Anyone interested please email faunited at faunited.org! 

There was a demand for a few fursuiting panels, there are two that still need moderators! "Head Construction" and "Basic Tips to Designing your own Fursuit!" Email faunited at faunited.org for more information, or if you have any panels you'd like to host or see happen at the convention, let us know!? 

We hope to see you in August at FA:United! 

Shy Matsi
http://www.faunited.org 
  
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From Karen.Upfront at shaw.ca  Tue Jun 19 11:51:17 2007
From: Karen.Upfront at shaw.ca (Upfront Mascots)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:51:17 -0600
Subject: FL: FA:United is looking for Fursuiters to host a panel!
References: <8C98008417CCA33-10A8-BC97@WEBMAIL-MA13.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <00af01c7b289$acd43300$6401a8c0@ownerafab910f5>

I have a client in Lakeport CA and they need some repairs done on our mascots we  made. Is there anyone out there able to assist them. Yes they will pay but we want quality work please.  email me and I can pass there contact information on to you. 
Thanks Karen
Up Front Mascots 
karen at upfrontmascots.com
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From Karen.Upfront at shaw.ca  Tue Jun 19 11:51:17 2007
From: Karen.Upfront at shaw.ca (Upfront Mascots)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:51:17 -0600
Subject: FL: FA:United is looking for Fursuiters to host a panel!
References: <8C98008417CCA33-10A8-BC97@WEBMAIL-MA13.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <00af01c7b289$acd43300$6401a8c0@ownerafab910f5>

I have a client in Lakeport CA and they need some repairs done on our mascots we  made. Is there anyone out there able to assist them. Yes they will pay but we want quality work please.  email me and I can pass there contact information on to you. 
Thanks Karen
Up Front Mascots 
karen at upfrontmascots.com
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From jtbeckett at hotmail.com  Sat Jun 23 03:19:41 2007
From: jtbeckett at hotmail.com (J.T. Beckett)
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:19:41 -0800
Subject: FL: Looking for a couple of freelance artist's to work in shop.
In-Reply-To: <0JJS002588OM1K00@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F11E5765E7653B01EAD488DBB160@phx.gbl>

I really wish I could, too... but I live in WA, and travel too much with the 
family business...
If you had work for offsite, I'd jump at that.

--J.T.


>From: Corey Sosner <sales at action-actors.com>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: FL: Looking for a couple of freelance artist's to work in shop.
>Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:40:54 -0400
>
>I have been on here for awhile, and enjoyed many the conversations and 
>great
>workmanship that's available on this forum, our shop is currently seeking a
>few free lance artisans who have experience with fur suits. Before we look
>to the Art schools or Mandy.COM I thought I would post up here.
>
>                  Our shop is located in the central jersey area, so
>commuting from Philly or NYC is not a problem please let us know as soon as
>possible these positions won't last.
>
>Thanks
>
>Corey Sosner
>
>President
>
>Action-Actors
>
>   _____
>
>From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
>[mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Growl
>Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:31 PM
>To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org
>Subject: FL: The Original Fursuit Database - http://www.fur-suit.org/
>
>
>
>I'm writing to let everyone know about the original fursuit database which
>Radjin and Timduru are running.  It's located at http://www.fur-suit.org/
>It's been running for a while now but I'm fairly sure that there are quite 
>a
>few folks who still don't know about it.  This is a user friendly and fully
>searchable site created to capture the best representation of  your 
>fursuits
>for future posterity.
>
>
>
>-Growl
>


>_______________________________________________
>_______________________________________________
>Fursuit Mail list.
>To edit your subscription, visit: 
>http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list

_________________________________________________________________
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From eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  1 19:42:54 2007
From: eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com (Jason Taipale)
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 16:42:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Mascot Manufacturer
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-W3307698F4E0DF9D4912B9B1680@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <486096.23464.qm@web52503.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I'm curious as to what company manufacturers most of the mascot cosutmes Fun Folly sells.  It appears that they carry a few from Alinco and Facemakers, but I can't tell who makes the majority of them.  Do they manufacturer the costumes themselves, or do they sell costumes some other company makes?

Thanks for any advice.

 
---------------------------------
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From bakensobek at gmail.com  Sun Jul  1 20:52:43 2007
From: bakensobek at gmail.com (Kaa Bakensobek)
Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 18:52:43 -0600
Subject: FL: "Dear Abby"
Message-ID: <46884C5B.5050103@gmail.com>


While normally an advice column has nothing to do with fursuits, a recent entry 
was about something many people in this list will relate to...

-------
DEAR ABBY: I am a professional costume wearer. By that, I mean I have been an 
elf, a giraffe, a moose, T-Rex and a character for a major hamburger chain. I am 
presently a character for a major cereal company. Once I am in costume, I am not 
allowed to speak.

Adults and older children think nothing of hitting me, kicking me, pulling at 
parts of my costume, and trying to knock me down. One 12-year-old even tried to 
"head butt" me while his father looked on and encouraged him!

I am in costume for about an hour or so before I can take breaks. It gets hot 
and sweaty inside these costumes. I have a limited field of vision and can't see 
many of the oncoming attacks. Even if I saw each one, I would not be able to say 
anything to stop or deflect these random attacks. What I do is have a paid 
"helper" walk beside me. This is now discouraging such actions by adults and 
children.

I would ask parents to please remember that there are real people inside these 
costumes, which are not heavily padded. I feel each and every hit and kick as if 
I were wearing street clothes. Thanks for printing this. -- H.S. IN COLORADO

DEAR H.S.: You have my sympathy, and I am seconding your request. That a parent 
would encourage such poor behavior incenses me. You should not have had to hire 
a "bodyguard" to protect you.

I find it interesting, however, that the children who are acting out against you 
do not regard you as another human being. It seems they have mistaken you for 
the same kind of cartoon character they see on television -- probably too much 
television -- against whom violence is committed with no repercussions. (I'm 
reminded of the "Mr. Bill" character that was once featured on "Saturday Night 
Live.")

One of my assistants, who has occasionally dressed as a chimp in her work as a 
docent at the L.A. Zoo, tells me that this is one of the hazards in your line of 
work. Call me humorless, but to me, assault and battery are criminal behaviors 
-- and if someone I cared about were subjected to it, I would be very concerned.

--------------------

-- Kaa

          ."``"._.""-.         "I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my
        .'    _-._.-_`\         imagination. Imagination is more important than
     _.-|    (\).--(\)<         knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination
--'`  `       .="""=-.'.       encircles the world."
         _ '-.                                      -- Albert Einstein
         |      _           '._   .--.-.
          \__.-(/'./|    ,     '-/ (O \O)     http://www.anthrosaur.com
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From grey_llama at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  2 12:27:47 2007
From: grey_llama at yahoo.com (Sean Rook)
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 09:27:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Dear Abby
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1183392003.28804.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <170905.80355.qm@web59214.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

That's a pretty nifty 'Dear Abby', any chance you can
find a scanned version of that column?

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From santafox at comcast.net  Mon Jul  2 15:30:59 2007
From: santafox at comcast.net (Santa Fox)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:30:59 +0000
Subject: FL: "Dear Abby"
Message-ID: <070220071930.1158.46895272000F000B0000048622007507449801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>

> Adults and older children think nothing of hitting me, kicking me, pulling at 
> parts of my costume, and trying to knock me down. One 12-year-old even tried to 
> "head butt" me while his father looked on and encouraged him!

I'm just curious about something - how many performers here have run into children and adults this rowdy on more than a rare occasion?  I ask because I've done well over a hundred costume character appearances (most of them with my own personal costumes, though four have been well-known mascot character gigs), and I've only twice encountered anyone close to that bad, and one of those times it was an adult egging on his teenage son to hit me, but fortunately the son wouldn't do it (smart boy ;-).  I've had kids tug on my tail and back rather hard a few times, and I've had kids try to pull off my gloves on maybe two occasions.  I've even lost my balance a few times due to overeager kids rushing to hug me.  But, I've never been kicked, hit, punched, or purposely knocked over in all that time, and I know I've logged hundreds of hours in suit.

So I have to wonder if I'm not merely having a really good streak of luck, or if getting assaulted can have something to do with the kind of costume you're wearing and the way you handle the kids and adults.  That is, I've never been in a really cheesy costume, which I'd suspect would draw a lot of negative attention that could turn into beating up the character.  I also find that I'm very good at letting things slide off my back and staying cheerful and playful even if there are some kids around who want to be a little rough.  I learned from growing up as the smallest kid in my classes and from having a speech impediment to boot that reacting negatively and retaliating only encourages the bullies.  So, I try not to ever get defensive when I'm in costume, but rather to react in terms of my character and with a positive or comical spin.  I be a little rowdy with the kids, rather than trying to discourage them, and I think that many times that helps them to see you as a friend, rathe
r than to want to bully you around.

What do you think - can problems like this in many cases be at least the partial fault of the performer not handling the audience the right way?  I'm sure there's going to be bad audience members occasionally, and I'll admit, I could sadly see these  kinds of problems happening more at theme parks or sports venues, neither of which I have ever worked.  But, I have worked a number of relatively large local festivals and community events, and I would expect to see somewhat similar behavior at them and yet I haven't.

And, of course, I'm certainly not saying that it's okay for anyone to beat up a bad performer (although there's a certain irony in that statement ;-) - I'm just wondering if it could be true that an experienced, well trained performer could have remarkably fewer incidents than a poorly trained, inexperienced performer.

Cheers,
Santa Fox

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From jtbeckett at hotmail.com  Mon Jul  2 16:06:04 2007
From: jtbeckett at hotmail.com (J.T. Beckett)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 12:06:04 -0800
Subject: FL: "Dear Abby"
In-Reply-To: <070220071930.1158.46895272000F000B0000048622007507449801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F23DB4F28C5D0CC4D440798BB0D0@phx.gbl>


>And, of course, I'm certainly not saying that it's okay for anyone to beat 
>up a bad performer (although there's a certain irony in that statement ;-) 
>- I'm just wondering if it could be true that an experienced, well trained 
>performer could have remarkably fewer incidents than a poorly trained, 
>inexperienced performer.
>
>Cheers,
>Santa Fox
>


Amen to that.  I attend a ton of kids' events, and you can always tell when 
they hired some schmoe for minimum wage with no experience.  There is 
absolutely NO excuse for acting violently towards the characters, or 
encouraging your kids to do so... but I do think that like any bully 
situation, a lot of it could be avoided, if the character is enough of a 
character to play along and communicate well with body language.  Any time 
you're performing for children, whether it's in a costume or not, you should 
have at least some basic understanding of child psychology, and recognise 
when you are encouraging behaviors with your reactions, and how you can 
safely discourage behaviors with your actions.

J.T.

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From sardognsca at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  2 16:24:27 2007
From: sardognsca at yahoo.com (Sardog)
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 13:24:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: "Dear Abby"
In-Reply-To: <070220071930.1158.46895272000F000B0000048622007507449801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20070702202428.27304.qmail@web51601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hmm...

I've seen our mascots take breaks and complain that
kids have yanked so hard on their tails that their
backs are hurting...

I've never seen anyone complain about being punched or
kicked, but, it's a fairly common occurrence of having
them tackled in a mob mentality.  Even with experience
adults as escorts, and, veteran performers in the
suits, it's happened.

And, I don't always think it's a case of being tackled
on purpose... Kids have become overanxious in their
hugging a character, and, there comes a point where
they've just plain become overburdened by the numbers
of kids hanging off of them.

But, then again, most of performers are also veteran
athletes (a prerequisite to perform with our team) so
a lot of the violence is possibly brushed off.

Although the interesting thing is... We have a couple
of young kids that suit with us as well (12 or 13
years old) and very talented I might add, and the kids
never seem to pick on them... I'm thinking because
they are the same size!

S.


--- Santa Fox <santafox at comcast.net> wrote:

> > Adults and older children think nothing of hitting
> me, kicking me, pulling at 
> > parts of my costume, and trying to knock me down.
> One 12-year-old even tried to 
> > "head butt" me while his father looked on and
> encouraged him!
> 
> I'm just curious about something - how many
> performers here have run into children and adults
> this rowdy on more than a rare occasion?  I ask
> because I've done well over a hundred costume
> character appearances (most of them with my own
> personal costumes, though four have been well-known
> mascot character gigs), and I've only twice
> encountered anyone close to that bad, and one of
> those times it was an adult egging on his teenage
> son to hit me, but fortunately the son wouldn't do
> it (smart boy ;-).  I've had kids tug on my tail and
> back rather hard a few times, and I've had kids try
> to pull off my gloves on maybe two occasions.  I've
> even lost my balance a few times due to overeager
> kids rushing to hug me.  But, I've never been
> kicked, hit, punched, or purposely knocked over in
> all that time, and I know I've logged hundreds of
> hours in suit.
> 
> So I have to wonder if I'm not merely having a
> really good streak of luck, or if getting assaulted
> can have something to do with the kind of costume
> you're wearing and the way you handle the kids and
> adults.  That is, I've never been in a really cheesy
> costume, which I'd suspect would draw a lot of
> negative attention that could turn into beating up
> the character.  I also find that I'm very good at
> letting things slide off my back and staying
> cheerful and playful even if there are some kids
> around who want to be a little rough.  I learned
> from growing up as the smallest kid in my classes
> and from having a speech impediment to boot that
> reacting negatively and retaliating only encourages
> the bullies.  So, I try not to ever get defensive
> when I'm in costume, but rather to react in terms of
> my character and with a positive or comical spin.  I
> be a little rowdy with the kids, rather than trying
> to discourage them, and I think that many times that
> helps them to see you as a friend,
>   rathe
> r than to want to bully you around.
> 
> What do you think - can problems like this in many
> cases be at least the partial fault of the performer
> not handling the audience the right way?  I'm sure
> there's going to be bad audience members
> occasionally, and I'll admit, I could sadly see
> these  kinds of problems happening more at theme
> parks or sports venues, neither of which I have ever
> worked.  But, I have worked a number of relatively
> large local festivals and community events, and I
> would expect to see somewhat similar behavior at
> them and yet I haven't.
> 
> And, of course, I'm certainly not saying that it's
> okay for anyone to beat up a bad performer (although
> there's a certain irony in that statement ;-) - I'm
> just wondering if it could be true that an
> experienced, well trained performer could have
> remarkably fewer incidents than a poorly trained,
> inexperienced performer.
> 
> Cheers,
> Santa Fox
> 
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From rj_fox at hotmail.com  Mon Jul  2 17:48:15 2007
From: rj_fox at hotmail.com (Ryan A.K.A  RJ Fox Michaelis)
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 14:48:15 -0700
Subject: FL: "Dear Abby"
Message-ID: <BAY119-W104E174D2E9916547B0F47F90D0@phx.gbl>


i had the same thin this one guy and his sun rip't my suit up> From: santafox at comcast.net> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 19:30:59 +0000> Subject: Re: FL: "Dear Abby"> > > Adults and older children think nothing of hitting me, kicking me, pulling at > > parts of my costume, and trying to knock me down. One 12-year-old even tried to > > "head butt" me while his father looked on and encouraged him!> > I'm just curious about something - how many performers here have run into children and adults this rowdy on more than a rare occasion? I ask because I've done well over a hundred costume character appearances (most of them with my own personal costumes, though four have been well-known mascot character gigs), and I've only twice encountered anyone close to that bad, and one of those times it was an adult egging on his teenage son to hit me, but fortunately the son wouldn't do it (smart boy ;-). I've had kids tug on my tail and back rather hard a few times, and I've had kids try to pull off my gloves on maybe two occasions. I've even lost my balance a few times due to overeager kids rushing to hug me. But, I've never been kicked, hit, punched, or purposely knocked over in all that time, and I know I've logged hundreds of hours in suit.> > So I have to wonder if I'm not merely having a really good streak of luck, or if getting assaulted can have something to do with the kind of costume you're wearing and the way you handle the kids and adults. That is, I've never been in a really cheesy costume, which I'd suspect would draw a lot of negative attention that could turn into beating up the character. I also find that I'm very good at letting things slide off my back and staying cheerful and playful even if there are some kids around who want to be a little rough. I learned from growing up as the smallest kid in my classes and from having a speech impediment to boot that reacting negatively and retaliating only encourages the bullies. So, I try not to ever get defensive when I'm in costume, but rather to react in terms of my character and with a positive or comical spin. I be a little rowdy with the kids, rather than trying to discourage them, and I think that many times that helps them to see you as a friend,> rathe> r than to want to bully you around.> > What do you think - can problems like this in many cases be at least the partial fault of the performer not handling the audience the right way? I'm sure there's going to be bad audience members occasionally, and I'll admit, I could sadly see these kinds of problems happening more at theme parks or sports venues, neither of which I have ever worked. But, I have worked a number of relatively large local festivals and community events, and I would expect to see somewhat similar behavior at them and yet I haven't.> > And, of course, I'm certainly not saying that it's okay for anyone to beat up a bad performer (although there's a certain irony in that statement ;-) - I'm just wondering if it could be true that an experienced, well trained performer could have remarkably fewer incidents than a poorly trained, inexperienced performer.> > Cheers,> Santa Fox> > --> Santa Fox's Den - http://santafox.home.comcast.net/> _______________________________________________> _______________________________________________> Fursuit Mail list.> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Mon Jul  2 20:32:19 2007
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 20:32:19 -0400
Subject: FL: Dear Abby
In-Reply-To: <170905.80355.qm@web59214.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.5.1183392003.28804.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<170905.80355.qm@web59214.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <577261b40707021732p6126fd88g45ced2939da51b4c@mail.gmail.com>

I wonder if thats a fur anyone knows or if it's just a regular
mascotter.  Anyfur know?

On 7/2/07, Sean Rook <grey_llama at yahoo.com> wrote:
> That's a pretty nifty 'Dear Abby', any chance you can
> find a scanned version of that column?
>
> -Freaky Lynx
>
>
>
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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Mon Jul  2 20:36:27 2007
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 20:36:27 -0400
Subject: FL: "Dear Abby"
In-Reply-To: <BAY119-W104E174D2E9916547B0F47F90D0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY119-W104E174D2E9916547B0F47F90D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <577261b40707021736n3fe010dcoea969169661e5033@mail.gmail.com>

I was at a halloween party for my campus glbt group in full suit and
one guy in the group came up and kneed me in the balls.  You know what
his excuse was? He claimed that he had thought that I was wearing a
cup.  WTF? If id not been so worried about my suit, I would have
decked him for doing that.  No-one in the group still hasn't forgiven
that guy for doing that to me, I was nearly doubled over after he did
it.

-Foxwolf 9-Tails

From rj_fox at hotmail.com  Mon Jul  2 20:40:52 2007
From: rj_fox at hotmail.com (Ryan A.K.A  RJ Fox Michaelis)
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 17:40:52 -0700
Subject: FL: "Dear Abby"
Message-ID: <BAY119-W50E256D888021B702971AF90C0@phx.gbl>


yeah som ppl can be ass's i remember win i wint to FC and MFF i had somwhat of the same thin but i got reely mad win this one guy rip't up my fursuit and im not a mascot im a furry i just dont post much i liv here in CA USA but i like to go to midwest furfest it was my frst con and my faverit one but im going to be going more to FC in cA USA now it's closer and cheeper> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 20:36:27 -0400> From: foxwolfac at gmail.com> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> Subject: Re: FL: "Dear Abby"> > I was at a halloween party for my campus glbt group in full suit and> one guy in the group came up and kneed me in the balls. You know what> his excuse was? He claimed that he had thought that I was wearing a> cup. WTF? If id not been so worried about my suit, I would have> decked him for doing that. No-one in the group still hasn't forgiven> that guy for doing that to me, I was nearly doubled over after he did> it.> > -Foxwolf 9-Tails> _______________________________________________> _______________________________________________> Fursuit Mail list.> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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From grey_llama at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  2 20:56:02 2007
From: grey_llama at yahoo.com (Sean Rook)
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 17:56:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Dear Abby - rowdy kids/performance skills
In-Reply-To: <mailman.23.1183422995.14247.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <60622.65902.qm@web59207.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Performance skills may help in some cases but overall
I just think you've gotten very lucky with the people
you've dealt with.  Because in my experience, I've had
kids attack me while I'm in suit while the parents
laugh or really don't care one way or another.  They
have no idea what it's like in a suit or even
understand that their little kids actions may damage a
fairly expensive costume, to them you're just a target
or someone who 'should' be able to take the punishment
because of your cartoony appearance - just as the Dear
Abby letter mentioned, you aren't recognized as human
while in costume, more like a punching bag with a cute
face.

And to reiterate the point, it can get worse when kids
turn into teenagers or young adults - people who you
can't even use the excuse 'they don't know any
better.'  They will attack you as a show of machismo,
for no other reason than they can get away with it..

I know of some fursuiters who will not perform in
public without wearing a cup, that's based on real
experience.  And whenever I have a costume with a
tail, it tends to get pulled - sometimes very hard.  


It's tough thing to go through if you're ever
separated and surrounded by rowdy people.  If you're
set on remaining in character - you can't get out of
suit, you can't call for help, you can't hit back, and
getting back to a safe area leaves you open for
attacks - believe me, I've been through it and I know
other experienced performers who have been through it.

Good performance skills will not prevent anyone from
going through that experience - that sort of reasoning
that it's the performer's fault should never be used,
they're doing a lot just by getting into suit.  

-Lynx


       
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From kategod at haxxed.com  Mon Jul  2 17:54:37 2007
From: kategod at haxxed.com (Kate L)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 16:54:37 -0500
Subject: FL: Dear Abby - rowdy kids/performance skills
In-Reply-To: <60622.65902.qm@web59207.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <60622.65902.qm@web59207.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1183413277.2682.22.camel@goat.booze>

I just want to say on this subject, that while staying in character is
important while in suit, it's also very important to understand when the
time comes to break character to keep from getting completely beaten
up/manhandled/having your costume destroyed/etc. I have not had this
problem yet personally, but then I don't really costume that much
outside of cons or holidays.

My roommate had a bit different of a problem at FC '06 when we went. She
was wearing a black cat fursuit with a corset, high heels, and wasn't
wearing her glasses since they wouldn't fit over or under the head (if
anyone was there you may have seen her walking around). We were walking
around with her as her guides, when we got to the front of the hotel
where a bunch of non-furry people were gathered. One rather large guy
walked up to her to get a pic taken, then asked if she would 'indulge'
him. We didn't think anything of him asking that (let alone were able to
hear it really), and she said 'sure' kind of hesitantly. He picked her
up off her feet and held her like a piece of meat for some more pictures
until we moved forward and he finally put her back down. He wasn't going
to do anything near as we could tell, but she said that was still
uncomfortable and weird.

So it's not just people beating you up, people will just treat you like
meat either way from what I've seen. :/

-Kate


From rsg0910 at iglou.com  Mon Jul  2 21:58:32 2007
From: rsg0910 at iglou.com (Robert Goodwin)
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 21:58:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: FL: "Dear Abby"
In-Reply-To: <070220071930.1158.46895272000F000B0000048622007507449801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>
	from "Santa Fox" at Jul 02, 2007 07:30:59 PM
Message-ID: <E1I5Xey-0002tr-7K@shell1.iglou.com>

Interesting thread here. I've done some public performances myself, 
including once at a hospital, and that was total fun. At the worst when in 
WerGoyle, when I was sitting down doing something with this one kid, 
another kept tossing a basketball at my back. I knew it was playful, but 
my mistake was ignoring him and he kept tossing. Finally I turned around 
and played a little with him. At one point, this kid with an IV in him got 
a little too close and I knocked him over since I didn't see him. 
Fortunately, he was OK, but I didn't move anywhere til he was safely up 
and his IV checked and still in place.

It's probably this picture URL below that gets people thinking I attacked 
him then a few laughs after they know the background. As it turns out, we 
were wrestling with the ball and I managed to tickle him to the floor. I 
stood up and looked over at the camera in time to see someone (Spiked 
Punch?) take my pic. I think the young kid was the brother of one of the 
sick patients.

http://members.iglou.com/rsg0910/boogi.jpg

Lynx said;

> I know of some fursuiters who will not perform in
> public without wearing a cup, that's based on real
> experience.  And whenever I have a costume with a
> tail, it tends to get pulled - sometimes very hard.

We're all not alone on this, and it sometimes worries me. I was wearing 
Mutant Cat at this local state fair some years ago just before I met up 
with someone else. Mutant's tail is a khaki belt with the tail sewn on 
with a waistpack worn over it to hide the friction buckle. A young girl 
yanked my tail so hard, that I nearly fell backwards. Fortunately, I was 
in front of a display booth that had someone I knew, and would have 
allowed me to go in there to hide and check on the tail and myself. While 
the fursuit FAQ/wiki talks of suiter abuse, I'll have to agree that having 
an escort helps out in reducing it.

Santa Fox, you said;

> I learned from growing up as the smallest kid in my classes and from 
> having a speech impediment to boot that reacting negatively and 
> retaliating only encourages the bullies.

As one of the list's deaf readers, it was the opposite of my experiences. 
If I tried ignoring them or just walking away, they'd just try harder 
until they got a reaction or an adult dealt with them. Around homeroom or 
after PE (outside normal classes), sometimes I wonder why I didn't just 
walk out to go to the library, risking getting in trouble.

I've not retired from suiting, just kinda inactive, due to the condition 
of my knees.

Sometimes I've noticed that having theatre and/or acting experience helps 
in doing performances. I've sometimes done some unintentional visual bits 
of humor here and there. I killed an entire classroom when I brought a 
flashlight and fiber optic cable out of my jacket just as the instructor 
was talking about the same thing.

However, I'm wondering something... If there is a suited performer in a 
wheelchair, wearing just paws, tail, and head, how would the kids react? 
Would they try to climb on the chair, try to sit with the performer, what?

-boogi-

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From bakensobek at gmail.com  Mon Jul  2 22:57:04 2007
From: bakensobek at gmail.com (Kaa Bakensobek)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:57:04 -0600
Subject: FL: Dear Abby
In-Reply-To: <170905.80355.qm@web59214.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <170905.80355.qm@web59214.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4689BB00.40601@gmail.com>


Sean Rook wrote:
> That's a pretty nifty 'Dear Abby', any chance you can
> find a scanned version of that column?

Sadly, I didn't keep the newspaper where I read it first; I copied and pasted 
the text from a website -- http://news.yahoo.com/i/793

-- Kaa

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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Wed Jul  4 20:28:17 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 17:28:17 -0700
Subject: FL: "Dear Abby"
In-Reply-To: <070220071930.1158.46895272000F000B0000048622007507449801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>
References: <070220071930.1158.46895272000F000B0000048622007507449801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0707041728m4d7a3f0cw8d065c966e954d84@mail.gmail.com>

Charators at theme parks get the worst of it. But others get beaten up
also. Down to being stabbed with knifes. Luckily the person that I
heard of that was stabbed lived throe the attacking. But he did not
escape staying out of the hospital. The kid that attacked him was put
in jail for assault with a deadly weapon. I would never take a job at
a theme park. Its not worth the minim wage pay.

The whole thing about the knife attacking was reported here on
fursuit.org some years ago.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

From yappyfox at thefoxden.com  Sat Jul  7 17:45:13 2007
From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (Yappy Sly Fox)
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 17:45:13 -0400
Subject: FL: AC Parade
Message-ID: <20070707214513.GA65542@foxpup.forest.thefoxden.com>

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Well, Took us by surprise, 341 in AC's Fursuit parade this year.  We were totally 
not ready for that.  

I wish to thank everyone that came out and participated, hopefully the parade was 
better than last year for the route length. The actual parade was only 30 minutes 
long, as we tried to eliminate some of the milage and stops.  

I hope everyone liked the bottles..  I know we ran out of them by sheer numbers of 
people that showed up, but I saw a bunch of them left behind as well.  I wish to 
thank Mrianti personally for saving our butts on the water bottles, as they got 
shipped with the wrong type of lid, Mrianti went out of his way to drive 4 hours to 
get proper lids/straws.  

I already know I'll be tweaking the route again next year, and will take note that 
yes, we need fans in the start off area..  


Any other comments?

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From fuzzyroo at gmail.com  Sat Jul  7 20:42:25 2007
From: fuzzyroo at gmail.com (Lucus Rocket)
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 19:42:25 -0500
Subject: FL: AC Parade
In-Reply-To: <20070707214513.GA65542@foxpup.forest.thefoxden.com>
References: <20070707214513.GA65542@foxpup.forest.thefoxden.com>
Message-ID: <186b03790707071742s476ba24h7853dbbaa3b1f1ed@mail.gmail.com>

well, other then the fact that it was totaly and completly awesome ^.^ not
many other comments :) from this satisfied roo :)

On 7/7/07, Yappy Sly Fox <yappyfox at thefoxden.com> wrote:
>
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> Well, Took us by surprise, 341 in AC's Fursuit parade this year.  We were
> totally
> not ready for that.
>
> I wish to thank everyone that came out and participated, hopefully the
> parade was
> better than last year for the route length. The actual parade was only 30
> minutes
> long, as we tried to eliminate some of the milage and stops.
>
> I hope everyone liked the bottles..  I know we ran out of them by sheer
> numbers of
> people that showed up, but I saw a bunch of them left behind as well.  I
> wish to
> thank Mrianti personally for saving our butts on the water bottles, as
> they got
> shipped with the wrong type of lid, Mrianti went out of his way to drive 4
> hours to
> get proper lids/straws.
>
> I already know I'll be tweaking the route again next year, and will take
> note that
> yes, we need fans in the start off area..
>
>
> Any other comments?
>
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From dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net  Sat Jul  7 22:58:00 2007
From: dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net (dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net)
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 19:58:00 -0700
Subject: FL: AC Parade
Message-ID: <1851457.1183863516740.JavaMail.teamon@b308.teamon.com>

>Well, Took us by surprise, 341 in AC's Fursuit parade this year.  We were totally 
>not ready for that.  

*is interested in seeing pictures*

-Dennis




From chameleon264 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  8 01:23:11 2007
From: chameleon264 at yahoo.com (Black Foot)
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 22:23:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: AC Parade
In-Reply-To: <1851457.1183863516740.JavaMail.teamon@b308.teamon.com>
Message-ID: <674234.42505.qm@web56910.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

well your close to that it was actually 354 fursuiters this year compared to 2?? last year.

dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net wrote:  >Well, Took us by surprise, 341 in AC's Fursuit parade this year. We were totally 
>not ready for that. 

*is interested in seeing pictures*

-Dennis



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From schneidsky at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 11 17:54:43 2007
From: schneidsky at yahoo.com (Adam Schneider)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:54:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Seam Allowance?
In-Reply-To: <4335018.1180789247502.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <369365.25312.qm@web54008.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Do you guys usually finish your seams on the inside?  You know, like cut one side in half and fold the other side over it and restitch to make it look pretty?

Michel Brassard <jambrassard at earthlink.net> wrote:  All I can say is that Alopex's flatlock serging system seems to work well for me. I have not had any tearing issues. Of course, I suppose it depends on the quality of the fur. I've seen some furs with a very thin, light backing, and can imagine it fraying. My latest fursuit has a rather heavy backing and some 2-way stretch to it, which helps in distributing the stress.

J. A. Michel Brassard - a.k.a. Michel Mephit

-----Original Message-----
>From: jovino 
>Sent: Jun 2, 2007 4:01 AM
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: Re: FL: Seam Allowance?
>
>This is not entirely true. Sergers will typically stitch an overlock 
>1/4" from the edge. So, theoretically, 1/4" is your seam allowance. 
>Some sergers have an adjustable stitch depth, so depending on your 
>project it can be anywhere from 1/8" and up. If your serger includes 
>a "safety stitch," then your seam allowance could be 1/2" or more.
>
>I've looked through your presentation, which is a pretty good 
>introduction to sergers. I also must agree that using a flatlock 
>stitch that you are highlighting your seam allowance is indeed 
>reduced to zero. Personally, I would not trust a flatlock stitch on 
>fake fur simply because of the loose fabric weave. Tight suits will 
>strain the seams a considerable amount and will most likely lead to 
>frayed fabric edges and a suit that will fall apart with too much 
>wear and tear (highlight on the tear). This, of course, is my 
>personal opinion on the matter; so feel free to disagree and argue 
>your point. :)
>
>
>Commercial (store-bought) patterns use a 5/8" seam allowance and 
>industrial sewing (manufactured garments) standards use 1/2" and 1/4" 
>allowances; depending on where the seam resides.
>
>Me? I sew for a living and I abide by the 1/2" industrial standard 
>because that's where my company is headed. The least amount of 
>modifications to my patterns that I need to make in order to prepare 
>for production, the better.
>
>
> _ _
>| |_| |
>[~ x ~]
>/ \
>\____/D
>jovino
>
>On May 31, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Michel Brassard wrote:
>
>> Well, it depends on what sort of machine you are using. If you are 
>> using a serger and select a flat-lock stitch, no seam allowance is 
>> needed at all. I've made use of this Powerpoint presentation by 
>> Alopex to serge together some nice, skin-tight bodysuits: http:// 
>> www.lycanthrope.net/~alopex/download/AloSerger.pdf
>>
>> J. A. Michel Brassard - a.k.a. Michel Mephit
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Fox Kinsman
>> Sent: May 31, 2007 12:55 PM
>> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>> Subject: FL: Seam Allowance?
>>
>> Hey y'all =)
>>
>> What kind of seam allowances do you guys use? 1 inch, 3/4"? 1/2"?
>> Just curious cuz I'm about to start sewing the jumpsuit part.
>> Thanks for any help you might have!
>>
>> Oh shoot -almost forgot -any tips on the fabric part that extends 
>> from the head? I still haven't furred the head yet but will soon. 
>> Curious how that part works -from photos it appears to be just 
>> matching fabric that kinda drapes down to blend with the suit body - 
>> is there any magic length to it? Thanks for any help =)
>>
>> Scape
>>
>>
>>
>> Fox =^_^=
>> John Fox Kinsman
>> www.flyingfox.biz
>>
>>
>>
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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Wed Jul 11 18:26:33 2007
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:26:33 -0400
Subject: FL: Seam Allowance?
In-Reply-To: <369365.25312.qm@web54008.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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	<369365.25312.qm@web54008.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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I don't and I'd not suggest cutting it  cause then you'd cut off fur that
you so carefully laid into the seam. Bad idea, sewing over the inside with a
closing stitch though would work, like a serger stitch, but with out cutting
any fabric off.

-Foxwolf 9-Tails

On 7/11/07, Adam Schneider <schneidsky at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Do you guys usually finish your seams on the inside?  You know, like cut
> one side in half and fold the other side over it and restitch to make it
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From fursuit at jovino.com  Wed Jul 11 22:59:33 2007
From: fursuit at jovino.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?jovino_=A0?=)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:59:33 -0700
Subject: FL: Seam Allowance?
In-Reply-To: <369365.25312.qm@web54008.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <369365.25312.qm@web54008.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <914CD0E4-C92D-4909-8BC1-ABA9BB328A28@jovino.com>

I depends on the garment I am making. On some pieces, I will run a  
single layer through a serger to "finish" the seam, then top-stitch  
to put it all together. The result is a finished-looking seam that is  
simply top-stitched. I don't bother going through such detailing for  
garments that are fully lined. And, if the garment is just for me,  
then I might not even bother.

I usually don't try to run multiple layers of fur through the serger  
unless I top-stitch it together first. I have more control with a top- 
stitch machine, so I use this as my primary seaming tool.

Other seams, like a felled seam or a french seam are simply too much  
work to bother with when making something in fur. If it's a finished  
garment in a woven material, then I'll use a felled seam.

So, to answer your question in the most roundabout way as possible:  
maybe. ;)



( )_( )
(o , o)
(").(")
jovino


On Jul 11, 2007, at 2:54 PM, Adam Schneider wrote:

> Do you guys usually finish your seams on the inside?  You know,  
> like cut one side in half and fold the other side over it and  
> restitch to make it look pretty?


From blue_heel at fsun.net  Thu Jul 12 23:37:14 2007
From: blue_heel at fsun.net (Doctor)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:37:14 -0500
Subject: FL: Under 50 days
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20070712222241.0246fa20@mail.fsun.net>

It's Coming..... So make sure you start planning...

---
<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000093/>Rusty Ryan: They built em smaller back 
then.
<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000123/>Danny Ocean: Yeah, but they seemed big.
---

The Masq for Mephit Fur Meet is coming quickly.  I would like to ask if 
there are two fursuiters that aren't going to be in any acts.... contact me 
off list.  I'm thinking and planning something that hopefully will go 
off.  For all of you that have no clue.. you will when you see the 
show.  Planning now can help smooth over the process.  Also, feel free to 
join the MFM Performance list to request help for your act.  Email Blue for 
details. There is plenty of talent around.  Keep in mind that the sign up 
for the Masq will take place on Friday.

It's BIG, it's BOLD, it's VEGAS baby.

Blue

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From marcwolf at marcwolf.org  Fri Jul 13 18:02:37 2007
From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (David Boccabella)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:02:37 +1000
Subject: FL: AC Parade
In-Reply-To: <674234.42505.qm@web56910.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIKEOEEKAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>

Hmmm...

Fursuits... The new fashion accessory.

Just an idea
  -----Original Message-----
  From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
[mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of Black Foot
  Sent: Sunday, 8 July 2007 15:23
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
  Subject: Re: FL: AC Parade


  well your close to that it was actually 354 fursuiters this year compared
to 2?? last year.

  dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net wrote:
    >Well, Took us by surprise, 341 in AC's Fursuit parade this year. We
were totally
    >not ready for that.

    *is interested in seeing pictures*

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From streakthetiger at gmail.com  Fri Jul 13 20:19:52 2007
From: streakthetiger at gmail.com (Streak)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:19:52 -0700
Subject: FL: AC Parade
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Actually it was 353.

On 7/7/07, Black Foot <chameleon264 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> well your close to that it was actually 354 fursuiters this year compared
> to 2?? last year.
>
> *dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net* wrote:
>
> >Well, Took us by surprise, 341 in AC's Fursuit parade this year. We were
> totally
> >not ready for that.
>
> *is interested in seeing pictures*
>
> -Dennis
>
>
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From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Fri Jul 13 20:37:27 2007
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (Cyan FOX)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:37:27 -0400
Subject: FL: AC Parade
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would have been 354 but i was volunteering at the art show so i missed it ;_;

On 7/13/07, Streak <streakthetiger at gmail.com> wrote:
> Actually it was 353.
>
>
> On 7/7/07, Black Foot <chameleon264 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > well your close to that it was actually 354 fursuiters this year compared
> to 2?? last year.
> >
> >
> > dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net wrote:
> > >Well, Took us by surprise, 341 in AC's Fursuit parade this year. We were
> totally
> > >not ready for that.
> >
> > *is interested in seeing pictures*
> >
> > -Dennis
> >
> >
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From abaddoggy at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jul 13 20:34:47 2007
From: abaddoggy at sbcglobal.net (Lucky)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:34:47 -0500
Subject: FL: AC Parade
References: <674234.42505.qm@web56910.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002f01c7c5ae$c9120050$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>

It was 353.  I know, cause my suit, Ooga Chaka, the purple furry eater, was the last one in line at the end of the parade.

- Lucky
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  Subject: Re: FL: AC Parade


  well your close to that it was actually 354 fursuiters this year compared to 2?? last year.

  dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net wrote: 
    >Well, Took us by surprise, 341 in AC's Fursuit parade this year. We were totally 
    >not ready for that. 

    *is interested in seeing pictures*

    -Dennis



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From geary at bright.net  Fri Jul 13 21:01:22 2007
From: geary at bright.net (Aerofox)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:01:22 -0400
Subject: FL: AC Parade
In-Reply-To: <a584d75d0707131719p2d30e800wdd06657c11229bde@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1851457.1183863516740.JavaMail.teamon@b308.teamon.com>
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Message-ID: <C1FE09C0-8EB6-48A3-9ECD-64D711620C53@bright.net>

I'm quite sure there were several fursuiters who were at AC with  
fursuits that didn't make it into the parade.

I suppose the only way to count exactly how many fursuits/fursuiters  
would be to have a way to flag the information at
registration and keep track that way. Of course there will always be  
errors, but it would be the best bet.

Unfortunately, Loriana and I weren't able to add to the fursuit count  
at this years AC :/

-Aerofox

On Jul 13, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Streak wrote:

> Actually it was 353.
>
> On 7/7/07, Black Foot <chameleon264 at yahoo.com> wrote: well your  
> close to that it was actually 354 fursuiters this year compared to  
> 2?? last year.
>
>
> dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net wrote: >Well, Took us by surprise,  
> 341 in AC's Fursuit parade this year. We were totally
> >not ready for that.
>
> *is interested in seeing pictures*
>
> -Dennis

From geary at bright.net  Fri Jul 13 21:20:31 2007
From: geary at bright.net (Aerofox)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:20:31 -0400
Subject: FL: AC Parade... WTF?....
In-Reply-To: <C1FE09C0-8EB6-48A3-9ECD-64D711620C53@bright.net>
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Umm, why did I get the following e-mail after i sent my comment?
O.o


From: 	  mailserver at flowercitypaging.com
	Subject: 	Successful Message To 5852776075
	Date: 	July 13, 2007 8:53:00 PM EDT
	To: 	  geary at bright.net

Message Info:
   Recv: 7/13/07 8:53:29 PM
   Sent: 7/13/07 8:53:35 PM
   To: 5852776075
   From: geary at bright.net
   Msg: Re: FL: AC Parade
[SNIP]

On Jul 13, 2007, at 9:01 PM, Aerofox wrote:

> I'm quite sure there were several fursuiters who were at AC with
> fursuits that didn't make it into the parade.
>
> I suppose the only way to count exactly how many fursuits/fursuiters
> would be to have a way to flag the information at
> registration and keep track that way. Of course there will always be
> errors, but it would be the best bet.
>
> Unfortunately, Loriana and I weren't able to add to the fursuit count
> at this years AC :/
>
> -Aerofox
>
> On Jul 13, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Streak wrote:
>
>> Actually it was 353.
>>
>> On 7/7/07, Black Foot <chameleon264 at yahoo.com> wrote: well your
>> close to that it was actually 354 fursuiters this year compared to
>> 2?? last year.
>>
>>
>> dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net wrote: >Well, Took us by surprise,
>> 341 in AC's Fursuit parade this year. We were totally
>>> not ready for that.
>>
>> *is interested in seeing pictures*
>>
>> -Dennis
> _______________________________________________
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Fri Jul 13 21:51:09 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (John Fox Kinsman)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:51:09 -0400
Subject: FL: AC Parade... WTF?....
In-Reply-To: <FB378A51-20D6-4198-99AF-45CCA4B67CA4@bright.net>
References: <1851457.1183863516740.JavaMail.teamon@b308.teamon.com>
	<674234.42505.qm@web56910.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<a584d75d0707131719p2d30e800wdd06657c11229bde@mail.gmail.com>
	<C1FE09C0-8EB6-48A3-9ECD-64D711620C53@bright.net>
	<FB378A51-20D6-4198-99AF-45CCA4B67CA4@bright.net>
Message-ID: <0CF56158-38D5-4C02-ACF7-A33DB41AA328@flyingfox.biz>

Yeah, wtf is right -I get that same mailserver at flowercitypaging.com  
after every single email or response I've sent on this group for the  
last 6 months -no idea what it is.
Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
fox at flyingfox.biz




On Jul 13, 2007, at 9:20 PM, Aerofox wrote:

Umm, why did I get the following e-mail after i sent my comment?
O.o


From: 	  mailserver at flowercitypaging.com
	Subject: 	Successful Message To 5852776075
	Date: 	July 13, 2007 8:53:00 PM EDT
	To: 	  geary at bright.net

Message Info:
    Recv: 7/13/07 8:53:29 PM
    Sent: 7/13/07 8:53:35 PM
    To: 5852776075
    From: geary at bright.net
    Msg: Re: FL: AC Parade
[SNIP]

On Jul 13, 2007, at 9:01 PM, Aerofox wrote:

> I'm quite sure there were several fursuiters who were at AC with
> fursuits that didn't make it into the parade.
>
> I suppose the only way to count exactly how many fursuits/fursuiters
> would be to have a way to flag the information at
> registration and keep track that way. Of course there will always be
> errors, but it would be the best bet.
>
> Unfortunately, Loriana and I weren't able to add to the fursuit count
> at this years AC :/
>
> -Aerofox
>
> On Jul 13, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Streak wrote:
>
>> Actually it was 353.
>>
>> On 7/7/07, Black Foot <chameleon264 at yahoo.com> wrote: well your
>> close to that it was actually 354 fursuiters this year compared to
>> 2?? last year.
>>
>>
>> dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net wrote: >Well, Took us by surprise,
>> 341 in AC's Fursuit parade this year. We were totally
>>> not ready for that.
>>
>> *is interested in seeing pictures*
>>
>> -Dennis
> _______________________________________________
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Fri Jul 13 21:53:50 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (John Fox Kinsman)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:53:50 -0400
Subject: FL: AC Parade -Goats?
In-Reply-To: <C1FE09C0-8EB6-48A3-9ECD-64D711620C53@bright.net>
References: <1851457.1183863516740.JavaMail.teamon@b308.teamon.com>
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Message-ID: <DB5A513D-CD28-4B1B-8F3C-00652AAF3F7B@flyingfox.biz>

Oh -bytheway...
I unfortunately did not make it to AC but heard there was a goat  
suiter in the parade.
Anyone happen to know who it is or have any info?  Also been trying  
to figure out Sophie and Pludge from MixedCandy.  Goats are  
apparently rare and I'd like to meet the existing ones if I can =)
Thanks!

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
fox at flyingfox.biz




On Jul 13, 2007, at 9:01 PM, Aerofox wrote:

I'm quite sure there were several fursuiters who were at AC with
fursuits that didn't make it into the parade.

I suppose the only way to count exactly how many fursuits/fursuiters
would be to have a way to flag the information at
registration and keep track that way. Of course there will always be
errors, but it would be the best bet.

Unfortunately, Loriana and I weren't able to add to the fursuit count
at this years AC :/

-Aerofox

On Jul 13, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Streak wrote:

> Actually it was 353.
>
> On 7/7/07, Black Foot <chameleon264 at yahoo.com> wrote: well your
> close to that it was actually 354 fursuiters this year compared to
> 2?? last year.
>
>
> dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net wrote: >Well, Took us by surprise,
> 341 in AC's Fursuit parade this year. We were totally
>> not ready for that.
>
> *is interested in seeing pictures*
>
> -Dennis
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From chameleon264 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 13 23:37:56 2007
From: chameleon264 at yahoo.com (Black Foot)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:37:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: AC Parade -Goats?
In-Reply-To: <DB5A513D-CD28-4B1B-8F3C-00652AAF3F7B@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <141808.93517.qm@web56907.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

I think your talking about Mighty Tauren and I have a pic of him

John Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
    Oh -bytheway...
  I unfortunately did not make it to AC but heard there was a goat suiter in the parade.
  Anyone happen to know who it is or have any info?  Also been trying to figure out Sophie and Pludge from MixedCandy.  Goats are apparently rare and I'd like to meet the existing ones if I can =)
  Thanks!
  

  Scape

  
  

  Fox =^_^=
  John Fox Kinsman
  fox at flyingfox.biz
  

  




    On Jul 13, 2007, at 9:01 PM, Aerofox wrote:

  I'm quite sure there were several fursuiters who were at AC with  
  fursuits that didn't make it into the parade.
  

  I suppose the only way to count exactly how many fursuits/fursuiters  
  would be to have a way to flag the information at
  registration and keep track that way. Of course there will always be  
  errors, but it would be the best bet.
  

  Unfortunately, Loriana and I weren't able to add to the fursuit count  
  at this years AC :/
  

  -Aerofox
  

  On Jul 13, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Streak wrote:
  

    Actually it was 353.
  

  On 7/7/07, Black Foot <chameleon264 at yahoo.com> wrote: well your  
  close to that it was actually 354 fursuiters this year compared to  
  2?? last year.
  

  

  dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net wrote: >Well, Took us by surprise,  
  341 in AC's Fursuit parade this year. We were totally
    not ready for that.
  

  *is interested in seeing pictures*
  

  -Dennis
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From fox at mchsi.com  Sat Jul 14 00:05:46 2007
From: fox at mchsi.com (fox)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:05:46 -0500
Subject: FL: 353! Woah.
Message-ID: <000601c7c5cc$41948080$6401a8c0@FoxDen>

We've come along way from the 16 or so of us at AAC 97. Bravo everyone. 
Bravo.

Frryfox 



From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Sat Jul 14 00:13:27 2007
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (Cyan FOX)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:13:27 -0400
Subject: FL: 353! Woah.
In-Reply-To: <000601c7c5cc$41948080$6401a8c0@FoxDen>
References: <000601c7c5cc$41948080$6401a8c0@FoxDen>
Message-ID: <b1c118750707132113k71b1862jab9ead6ad1151c1@mail.gmail.com>

not fair, bring AnthroCon back to albany *whines*

On 7/14/07, fox <fox at mchsi.com> wrote:
> We've come along way from the 16 or so of us at AAC 97. Bravo everyone.
> Bravo.
>
> Frryfox
>
>
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From antimon at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 14 12:57:30 2007
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 12:57:30 -0400
Subject: FL: AC Parade -Goats?
References: <1851457.1183863516740.JavaMail.teamon@b308.teamon.com><674234.42505.qm@web56910.mail.re3.yahoo.com><a584d75d0707131719p2d30e800wdd06657c11229bde@mail.gmail.com><C1FE09C0-8EB6-48A3-9ECD-64D711620C53@bright.net>
	<DB5A513D-CD28-4B1B-8F3C-00652AAF3F7B@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <011a01c7c638$1139b010$0f01a8c0@bigblue>

both sophie  and the othe rone, as well as mighty and the wqhit eone, and the taun taun were in the parade.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Fox Kinsman 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 9:53 PM
  Subject: Re: FL: AC Parade -Goats?


  Oh -bytheway...
  I unfortunately did not make it to AC but heard there was a goat suiter in the parade.
  Anyone happen to know who it is or have any info?  Also been trying to figure out Sophie and Pludge from MixedCandy.  Goats are apparently rare and I'd like to meet the existing ones if I can =)

  Thanks!


  Scape




  Fox =^_^=
  John Fox Kinsman
  fox at flyingfox.biz








  On Jul 13, 2007, at 9:01 PM, Aerofox wrote:


  I'm quite sure there were several fursuiters who were at AC with  
  fursuits that didn't make it into the parade.


  I suppose the only way to count exactly how many fursuits/fursuiters  
  would be to have a way to flag the information at
  registration and keep track that way. Of course there will always be  
  errors, but it would be the best bet.


  Unfortunately, Loriana and I weren't able to add to the fursuit count  
  at this years AC :/


  -Aerofox


  On Jul 13, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Streak wrote:


    Actually it was 353.


    On 7/7/07, Black Foot <chameleon264 at yahoo.com> wrote: well your  
    close to that it was actually 354 fursuiters this year compared to  
    2?? last year.




    dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net wrote: >Well, Took us by surprise,  
    341 in AC's Fursuit parade this year. We were totally
      not ready for that.


    *is interested in seeing pictures*


    -Dennis
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From antimon at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 14 13:00:49 2007
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:00:49 -0400
Subject: FL: AC Parade
References: <1851457.1183863516740.JavaMail.teamon@b308.teamon.com><674234.42505.qm@web56910.mail.re3.yahoo.com><a584d75d0707131719p2d30e800wdd06657c11229bde@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <014201c7c638$8768f7a0$0f01a8c0@bigblue>

and i had 3 suits back in my room i couldn't find bodies for so, there will 
always be more suits then suiters and then show up in the parade.

I
m tryign to get them to do liek fursuit badges or a fursuiter ribbon or 
somthing


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aerofox" <geary at bright.net>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: FL: AC Parade


> I'm quite sure there were several fursuiters who were at AC with
> fursuits that didn't make it into the parade.
>
> I suppose the only way to count exactly how many fursuits/fursuiters
> would be to have a way to flag the information at
> registration and keep track that way. Of course there will always be
> errors, but it would be the best bet.
>
> Unfortunately, Loriana and I weren't able to add to the fursuit count
> at this years AC :/
>
> -Aerofox
>
> On Jul 13, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Streak wrote:
>
>> Actually it was 353.
>>
>> On 7/7/07, Black Foot <chameleon264 at yahoo.com> wrote: well your
>> close to that it was actually 354 fursuiters this year compared to
>> 2?? last year.
>>
>>
>> dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net wrote: >Well, Took us by surprise,
>> 341 in AC's Fursuit parade this year. We were totally
>> >not ready for that.
>>
>> *is interested in seeing pictures*
>>
>> -Dennis
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sat Jul 14 13:17:19 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 10:17:19 -0700
Subject: FL: AC Parade -Goats?
In-Reply-To: <DB5A513D-CD28-4B1B-8F3C-00652AAF3F7B@flyingfox.biz>
References: <1851457.1183863516740.JavaMail.teamon@b308.teamon.com>
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On 7/13/07, John Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
>
> Oh -bytheway...
> I unfortunately did not make it to AC but heard there was a goat suiter in
> the parade.
> Anyone happen to know who it is or have any info?  Also been trying to
> figure out Sophie and Pludge from MixedCandy.  Goats are apparently rare and
> I'd like to meet the existing ones if I can =)
> Thanks!
>
> Scape

I have a goat fursuit almost completed. All that I need to finish is
puting on the ears and furing the head.

Oh I also need to name him. Right now his name is Gotya Goat. It might
be changed.
Another rare fursuit that is on the drawing board is a rhino. Not named yet.
The only commen fursuit that I will have is Rotty.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

From fox at flyingfox.biz  Mon Jul 16 10:32:47 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:32:47 -0400
Subject: FL: AC Parade -Goats?
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0707141017m7d46f01at70974ec135ee00c4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1851457.1183863516740.JavaMail.teamon@b308.teamon.com>
	<674234.42505.qm@web56910.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<a584d75d0707131719p2d30e800wdd06657c11229bde@mail.gmail.com>
	<C1FE09C0-8EB6-48A3-9ECD-64D711620C53@bright.net>
	<DB5A513D-CD28-4B1B-8F3C-00652AAF3F7B@flyingfox.biz>
	<d23d76ca0707141017m7d46f01at70974ec135ee00c4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DEFCB3E2-B4DB-4E7E-97A8-813FDA7CAEE4@flyingfox.biz>

No kidding!

I'm totally in the same spot -just need to finish the ears and finish  
furring the head lol! yay
I'll post a link with pics as soon as I'm done.  This is my first  
suit and what an adventure it has been ;)
I can't wait to finally wear it too!  That I suppose will be the  
other half of the fun!
Thanks everyone for all the help too - I appreciate all the tips and  
suggestions -I think Scape is going to turn out quite well =)

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



On Jul 14, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Donkey wrote:

On 7/13/07, John Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
>
> Oh -bytheway...
> I unfortunately did not make it to AC but heard there was a goat  
> suiter in
> the parade.
> Anyone happen to know who it is or have any info?  Also been trying to
> figure out Sophie and Pludge from MixedCandy.  Goats are apparently  
> rare and
> I'd like to meet the existing ones if I can =)
> Thanks!
>
> Scape

I have a goat fursuit almost completed. All that I need to finish is
puting on the ears and furing the head.

Oh I also need to name him. Right now his name is Gotya Goat. It might
be changed.
Another rare fursuit that is on the drawing board is a rhino. Not  
named yet.
The only commen fursuit that I will have is Rotty.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
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From blue_heel at fsun.net  Thu Jul 19 22:42:31 2007
From: blue_heel at fsun.net (Doctor)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:42:31 -0500
Subject: FL: Plan for MFM Masq
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20070719214058.0251f6e8@mail.fsun.net>


---

How I wish that there were more
Than the twenty-four hours in the day
cause even if there were forty more
I wouldn't sleep a minute away

  -Elvis

---

  Keep planning for the Masquerade.  It is coming up soon.  If possible, 
try to rehearse before you get there.  If you can't, please try to have 
everything ready to do rehearsal.  Remember that the sign up is on Friday 
night, but the show and rehearsal isn't until Sunday.  Plenty of time to 
work through things over the weekend.  Remember that the theme award this 
year of course is Vegas... Have fun with that.

It's BIG, It's BOLD, and it's Vegas Baby

Blue

--
Blue Heeler SunFire
Original member of FSUN (Furry Supporters of Universal Networks)
Blue_Heel on Undernet; FurryMuck; SPR; Tapestries; Yukon Trails
Furry Writer; art collector
www.fsun.net/blue_heel
Furry Code available upon request.  


From jc2blion at taconic.net  Fri Jul 20 09:08:22 2007
From: jc2blion at taconic.net (Kamau)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:08:22 -0400
Subject: FL: 353! Woah.
References: <000601c7c5cc$41948080$6401a8c0@FoxDen>
	<b1c118750707132113k71b1862jab9ead6ad1151c1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01fd01c7cacf$0d4bc920$0c00a8c0@Mufasa>

Hehe, even with a new convention center (if they ever build it) do you 
really think Albany could deal with 2000 plus furs?  I'm not even sure 
there's enough hotels to house that many, though there are new one going up.

Having lived in the Albany area for many years I am simply amazed at how 
they have managed to lose every major con they have ever had.  Granted the 
city doesn't have much to do beyond the con itself (Albany night life is 
limited and most attractions are outside the city) but you'd think by now 
they would realize that Sci Fi/Gaming/Furry/etc conventions can generate a 
huge amount of income for the area and attempt to make it attractive to con 
goers.

Being located on a cross road of two major interstates (I-90 and I-87) the 
city is located very nicely for conventions.  Only a 3 to 5 hour drive from 
several other big cities in the northeast.  I do wish we could at least get 
some kind of smaller con running in the area.  I've no hard figures but I'd 
say the area could handle a 400-800 member convention nicely.  For a furry 
convention however that would mean Albany area furs having to come out of 
the closet which for some strange reason doesn't seem to happen.

Ah well, maybe some day I'll have a con in my back yard again.

Kamau (Lion hiding outside of Albany)
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cyan FOX" <cyan.fox at gmail.com>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: FL: 353! Woah.


> not fair, bring AnthroCon back to albany *whines*
>
> On 7/14/07, fox <fox at mchsi.com> wrote:
>> We've come along way from the 16 or so of us at AAC 97. Bravo everyone.
>> Bravo.
>>
>> Frryfox
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> _______________________________________________
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Fri Jul 20 09:52:52 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:52:52 -0400
Subject: FL: 353! Woah.
In-Reply-To: <01fd01c7cacf$0d4bc920$0c00a8c0@Mufasa>
References: <000601c7c5cc$41948080$6401a8c0@FoxDen>
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I still kick myself for not attending Albany Anthro when it first  
started -I lived practically down the street.
Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



On Jul 20, 2007, at 9:08 AM, Kamau wrote:

Hehe, even with a new convention center (if they ever build it) do you
really think Albany could deal with 2000 plus furs?  I'm not even sure
there's enough hotels to house that many, though there are new one  
going up.

Having lived in the Albany area for many years I am simply amazed at how
they have managed to lose every major con they have ever had.   
Granted the
city doesn't have much to do beyond the con itself (Albany night life is
limited and most attractions are outside the city) but you'd think by  
now
they would realize that Sci Fi/Gaming/Furry/etc conventions can  
generate a
huge amount of income for the area and attempt to make it attractive  
to con
goers.

Being located on a cross road of two major interstates (I-90 and  
I-87) the
city is located very nicely for conventions.  Only a 3 to 5 hour  
drive from
several other big cities in the northeast.  I do wish we could at  
least get
some kind of smaller con running in the area.  I've no hard figures  
but I'd
say the area could handle a 400-800 member convention nicely.  For a  
furry
convention however that would mean Albany area furs having to come  
out of
the closet which for some strange reason doesn't seem to happen.

Ah well, maybe some day I'll have a con in my back yard again.

Kamau (Lion hiding outside of Albany)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cyan FOX" <cyan.fox at gmail.com>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: FL: 353! Woah.


> not fair, bring AnthroCon back to albany *whines*
>
> On 7/14/07, fox <fox at mchsi.com> wrote:
>> We've come along way from the 16 or so of us at AAC 97. Bravo  
>> everyone.
>> Bravo.
>>
>> Frryfox
>>
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From foxglovefennec at gmail.com  Fri Jul 20 13:56:20 2007
From: foxglovefennec at gmail.com (Foxglove Fur)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:56:20 -0400
Subject: FL: 353! Woah.
In-Reply-To: <4B316D43-EC90-4C1F-99B7-607DC0263C06@flyingfox.biz>
References: <000601c7c5cc$41948080$6401a8c0@FoxDen>
	<b1c118750707132113k71b1862jab9ead6ad1151c1@mail.gmail.com>
	<01fd01c7cacf$0d4bc920$0c00a8c0@Mufasa>
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Message-ID: <3bcb12380707201056q20a35559ha25be208f14f03f2@mail.gmail.com>

i still say its 354......i was there....i was all full suited up....but then
the sickness that had me bedridden all week during the con came back to bite
me and i had to miss out on the parade ;.;

Foxglove

On 7/20/07, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
>
> I still kick myself for not attending Albany Anthro when it first started
> -I lived practically down the street.Scape
>
>
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> www.flyingfox.biz
>
>
>
> On Jul 20, 2007, at 9:08 AM, Kamau wrote:
>
> Hehe, even with a new convention center (if they ever build it) do you
> really think Albany could deal with 2000 plus furs?  I'm not even sure
> there's enough hotels to house that many, though there are new one going
> up.
>
> Having lived in the Albany area for many years I am simply amazed at how
> they have managed to lose every major con they have ever had.  Granted the
>
> city doesn't have much to do beyond the con itself (Albany night life is
> limited and most attractions are outside the city) but you'd think by now
> they would realize that Sci Fi/Gaming/Furry/etc conventions can generate a
>
> huge amount of income for the area and attempt to make it attractive to
> con
> goers.
>
> Being located on a cross road of two major interstates (I-90 and I-87) the
>
> city is located very nicely for conventions.  Only a 3 to 5 hour drive
> from
> several other big cities in the northeast.  I do wish we could at least
> get
> some kind of smaller con running in the area.  I've no hard figures but
> I'd
> say the area could handle a 400-800 member convention nicely.  For a furry
>
> convention however that would mean Albany area furs having to come out of
> the closet which for some strange reason doesn't seem to happen.
>
> Ah well, maybe some day I'll have a con in my back yard again.
>
> Kamau (Lion hiding outside of Albany)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cyan FOX" <cyan.fox at gmail.com>
> To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 12:13 AM
> Subject: Re: FL: 353! Woah.
>
>
> not fair, bring AnthroCon back to albany *whines*
>
> On 7/14/07, fox <fox at mchsi.com> wrote:
>
> We've come along way from the 16 or so of us at AAC 97. Bravo everyone.
> Bravo.
>
> Frryfox
>
>
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From yappyfox at thefoxden.com  Fri Jul 20 14:17:46 2007
From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (Yappy Sly Fox)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:17:46 -0400
Subject: FL: 353! Woah.
In-Reply-To: <3bcb12380707201056q20a35559ha25be208f14f03f2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000601c7c5cc$41948080$6401a8c0@FoxDen>
	<b1c118750707132113k71b1862jab9ead6ad1151c1@mail.gmail.com>
	<01fd01c7cacf$0d4bc920$0c00a8c0@Mufasa>
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the count is not how many fursuits at a con, but how many particiapte in the parade.  there are lots that don't participate in parade 
at every con, but impossible to document them




On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 01:56:20PM -0400, Foxglove Fur wrote:
> 
>    i still say its 354......i was there....i was all full suited
>    up....but then the sickness that had me bedridden all week during the
>    con came back to bite me and i had to miss out on the parade ;.;
>    Foxglove
> 

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From foxglovefennec at gmail.com  Fri Jul 20 14:19:56 2007
From: foxglovefennec at gmail.com (Foxglove Fur)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:19:56 -0400
Subject: FL: 353! Woah.
In-Reply-To: <20070720181746.GA10202@foxpup.forest.thefoxden.com>
References: <000601c7c5cc$41948080$6401a8c0@FoxDen>
	<b1c118750707132113k71b1862jab9ead6ad1151c1@mail.gmail.com>
	<01fd01c7cacf$0d4bc920$0c00a8c0@Mufasa>
	<4B316D43-EC90-4C1F-99B7-607DC0263C06@flyingfox.biz>
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yeah but i really really really really wanted to be in it ;.;....i just
didnt wanna pull a CSI and y`know...throw up in suit >_>....no good no
good...

On 7/20/07, Yappy Sly Fox <yappyfox at thefoxden.com> wrote:
>
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> the count is not how many fursuits at a con, but how many particiapte in
> the parade.  there are lots that don't participate in parade
> at every con, but impossible to document them
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 01:56:20PM -0400, Foxglove Fur wrote:
> >
> >    i still say its 354......i was there....i was all full suited
> >    up....but then the sickness that had me bedridden all week during the
> >    con came back to bite me and i had to miss out on the parade ;.;
> >    Foxglove
> >
>
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>
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From jbadger at panix.com  Fri Jul 20 15:29:18 2007
From: jbadger at panix.com (JBadger badger badger)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:29:18 -0400
Subject: FL: 353! Woah.
In-Reply-To: <3bcb12380707201119j598ecc06h18efd3b9306a6171@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000601c7c5cc$41948080$6401a8c0@FoxDen>
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	<01fd01c7cacf$0d4bc920$0c00a8c0@Mufasa>
	<4B316D43-EC90-4C1F-99B7-607DC0263C06@flyingfox.biz>
	<3bcb12380707201056q20a35559ha25be208f14f03f2@mail.gmail.com>
	<20070720181746.GA10202@foxpup.forest.thefoxden.com>
	<3bcb12380707201119j598ecc06h18efd3b9306a6171@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070720192918.GB3341@jbadger.dnsalias.net>

Well I for one was not in the parade, staff conflict.

Also same for the meet and greet.

The only way to get a count really would be a question correctly answered at
registraion but well I hate the idea of more stored infomation someplace.


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From grey_llama at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 21 16:44:11 2007
From: grey_llama at yahoo.com (Sean Rook)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:44:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Fursuit!  Hardcore!!!
In-Reply-To: <mailman.7.1185033604.21809.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <435421.85564.qm@web57612.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

"Message: 3
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:19:56 -0400
From: "Foxglove Fur" <foxglovefennec at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: FL: 353! Woah.
To: yappyfox at thefoxden.com,
fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Message-ID:

<3bcb12380707201119j598ecc06h18efd3b9306a6171 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

yeah but i really really really really wanted to be in
it ;.;....i just
didnt wanna pull a CSI and y`know...throw up in suit
>_>....no good no
good..."



By CSI's standards, you're not hardcore enough to be a
fursuiter ;P


       
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From foxglovefennec at gmail.com  Sat Jul 21 16:46:11 2007
From: foxglovefennec at gmail.com (Foxglove Fur)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:46:11 -0400
Subject: FL: Fursuit! Hardcore!!!
In-Reply-To: <435421.85564.qm@web57612.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.7.1185033604.21809.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<435421.85564.qm@web57612.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3bcb12380707211346j16e38abfpb556d1770b076892@mail.gmail.com>

lol i guess not..

On 7/21/07, Sean Rook <grey_llama at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> "Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:19:56 -0400
> From: "Foxglove Fur" <foxglovefennec at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: FL: 353! Woah.
> To: yappyfox at thefoxden.com,
> fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Message-ID:
>
> <3bcb12380707201119j598ecc06h18efd3b9306a6171 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> yeah but i really really really really wanted to be in
> it ;.;....i just
> didnt wanna pull a CSI and y`know...throw up in suit
> >_>....no good no
> good..."
>
>
>
> By CSI's standards, you're not hardcore enough to be a
> fursuiter ;P
>
>
>
>
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From superhedgie at googlemail.com  Sun Jul 22 00:59:23 2007
From: superhedgie at googlemail.com (Super BH)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 05:59:23 +0100
Subject: FL: WCOTP
Message-ID: <001d01c7cc1d$134d0100$6700000a@NoobSaibot>

All right, own up!!!

Who was it who demanded that Sonic and Tails be in Jim Groat's WCOTP strip??

It sure wasn't me, coz I wasn't there, and I'm a serious Sonic-whore!!

Come on...spill the beans!!

Hedgie
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From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Sun Jul 22 02:33:45 2007
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 06:33:45 +0000
Subject: FL: Fursuit! Hardcore!!!
In-Reply-To: <3bcb12380707211346j16e38abfpb556d1770b076892@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY101-F37DC75D7432506DE903022A9F60@phx.gbl>

Then what is your deffinition of hardcore fursuiter?


>From: "Foxglove Fur" <foxglovefennec at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: Re: FL: Fursuit! Hardcore!!!
>Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:46:11 -0400
>
>lol i guess not..
>
>On 7/21/07, Sean Rook <grey_llama at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Message: 3
>>Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:19:56 -0400
>>From: "Foxglove Fur" <foxglovefennec at gmail.com>
>>Subject: Re: FL: 353! Woah.
>>To: yappyfox at thefoxden.com,
>>fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>>Message-ID:
>>
>><3bcb12380707201119j598ecc06h18efd3b9306a6171 at mail.gmail.com>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>>yeah but i really really really really wanted to be in
>>it ;.;....i just
>>didnt wanna pull a CSI and y`know...throw up in suit
>> >_>....no good no
>>good..."
>>
>>
>>
>>By CSI's standards, you're not hardcore enough to be a
>>fursuiter ;P
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From scotskunk at hotmail.co.uk  Sun Jul 22 05:02:44 2007
From: scotskunk at hotmail.co.uk (Scot Skunk)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:02:44 +0100
Subject: FL: Quad Suit
Message-ID: <BAY113-F231A99D74F1A61E52ECDD5F1F60@phx.gbl>

Dear Mailing group,

                          This is my first ever post on the mailing list. I 
have recently come accross a problem of finding a fursuit maker. I was 
hoping for my first suit to be a quadrapedial suit, which I do understand is 
hard to make, but I am certainly not a darling on a needle, and have asked 
around many suit makers and so far all have refused to even give a quote. I 
am therefore asking the fursuit list, has anyone had experience of quad suit 
making? I will happily supply links of pictures of the character i would 
like done.

Thank You

Scot Skunk

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From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Sun Jul 22 06:03:12 2007
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (Cyan FOX)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 06:03:12 -0400
Subject: FL: Quad Suit
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-F231A99D74F1A61E52ECDD5F1F60@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY113-F231A99D74F1A61E52ECDD5F1F60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <b1c118750707220303y23f8ef26qe28b8a5f0b378a18@mail.gmail.com>

hey there :3 well my character is a non-anthro/quad/feral but i got a
``normal'' anthro suit just because i saw a foto of a quad suit ( i
had no idea they existed ) and it just looks painful to be on your
hands and knees or on all fours to walk x_x but it was schweet... i
forgot where that link was, sorry... but it looked like renamon or the
fox digiman thing c.c

i think that your character would look really nice <3 and it's a very
awesome idea and wish you much luck trying to get yours done ^_^ i got
my suit done by SokiTwoPaw maybe he would be interested in a quad suit
challenge ?

<3foxfoxfox

On 7/22/07, Scot Skunk <scotskunk at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Dear Mailing group,
>
>                           This is my first ever post on the mailing list. I
> have recently come accross a problem of finding a fursuit maker. I was
> hoping for my first suit to be a quadrapedial suit, which I do understand is
> hard to make, but I am certainly not a darling on a needle, and have asked
> around many suit makers and so far all have refused to even give a quote. I
> am therefore asking the fursuit list, has anyone had experience of quad suit
> making? I will happily supply links of pictures of the character i would
> like done.
>
> Thank You
>
> Scot Skunk
>
> links: http://www.otaku-village.com/ficpics/jyoumon-a2.jpg
>        http://www.otaku-village.com/ficpics/jyoumon02.jpg
>
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From melnoth2002 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 22 10:25:14 2007
From: melnoth2002 at yahoo.com (sergio romero)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 07:25:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Quad Suit
Message-ID: <249421.71142.qm@web56501.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

very
good day, I respond east email so that also I need information to do
one fursuit quad, agradecere that also shares information with
me. 


----- Mensaje original ----
De: Cyan FOX <cyan.fox at gmail.com>
Para: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org; scotskunk at hotmail.co.uk
Enviado: domingo, 22 de julio, 2007 6:03:12
Asunto: Re: FL: Quad Suit

hey there :3 well my character is a non-anthro/quad/feral but i got a
``normal'' anthro suit just because i saw a foto of a quad suit ( i
had no idea they existed ) and it just looks painful to be on your
hands and knees or on all fours to walk x_x but it was schweet... i
forgot where that link was, sorry... but it looked like renamon or the
fox digiman thing c.c

i think that your character would look really nice <3 and it's a very
awesome idea and wish you much luck trying to get yours done ^_^ i got
my suit done by SokiTwoPaw maybe he would be interested in a quad suit
challenge ?

<3foxfoxfox

On 7/22/07, Scot Skunk <scotskunk at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Dear Mailing group,
>
>                           This is my first ever post on the mailing list. I
> have recently come accross a problem of finding a fursuit maker. I was
> hoping for my first suit to be a quadrapedial suit, which I do understand is
> hard to make, but I am certainly not a darling on a needle, and have asked
> around many suit makers and so far all have refused to even give a quote. I
> am therefore asking the fursuit list, has anyone had experience of quad suit
> making? I will happily supply links of pictures of the character i would
> like done.
>
> Thank You
>
> Scot Skunk
>
> links: http://www.otaku-village.com/ficpics/jyoumon-a2.jpg
>        http://www.otaku-village.com/ficpics/jyoumon02.jpg
>
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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Sun Jul 22 13:55:55 2007
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:55:55 -0400
Subject: FL: Fursuit! Hardcore!!!
In-Reply-To: <BAY101-F37DC75D7432506DE903022A9F60@phx.gbl>
References: <3bcb12380707211346j16e38abfpb556d1770b076892@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <577261b40707221055l6e56d8cesbc111ad111f88964@mail.gmail.com>

My def is someone who wants to go to work in suit, or someone who can
identify with most of the things on Baar's list
http://baarsden.itgo.com/fursuit.html  I can identify with a goodly
number of things on that list myself. =^_^=

-Foxwolf 9-Tails

From v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 22 15:18:30 2007
From: v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com (VDragOnEyen09 VDragOnEyen09)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:18:30 -0600
Subject: FL: Need some help here
Message-ID: <fd39d8000707221218p782d83e6h846d917e2fb0dca4@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everybody, I just want to know all the ways foot paws (lower-paws) could
be done, I don't want to use shoes for that!!

By the way, I will create a fox suit but using my own artwork concept !!!

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From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Sun Jul 22 15:22:34 2007
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (Cyan FOX)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:22:34 -0400
Subject: FL: Fursuit! Hardcore!!!
In-Reply-To: <577261b40707221055l6e56d8cesbc111ad111f88964@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3bcb12380707211346j16e38abfpb556d1770b076892@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY101-F37DC75D7432506DE903022A9F60@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <b1c118750707221222i571f0316s5922b74af7a0d330@mail.gmail.com>

i always thought it was some sort of european style dance music like
happy hardcore cept more furry c.c

On 7/22/07, Foxwolf 9-Tails <foxwolfac at gmail.com> wrote:
> My def is someone who wants to go to work in suit, or someone who can
> identify with most of the things on Baar's list
> http://baarsden.itgo.com/fursuit.html  I can identify with a goodly
> number of things on that list myself. =^_^=
>
> -Foxwolf 9-Tails
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From pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 22 15:24:51 2007
From: pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com (Kit Kat)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:24:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Need some help here
In-Reply-To: <fd39d8000707221218p782d83e6h846d917e2fb0dca4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <802626.75890.qm@web53804.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

i know a way with foot paws that has foam, a place mat, and slippers but isnt required

VDragOnEyen09 VDragOnEyen09 <v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com> wrote: Hi everybody, I just want to know all the ways foot paws (lower-paws) could be done, I don't want to use shoes for that!! 

By the way, I will create a fox suit but using my own artwork concept !!!
 
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From rsg0910 at iglou.com  Sun Jul 22 18:04:39 2007
From: rsg0910 at iglou.com (Robert Goodwin)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:04:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: FL: Need some help here
In-Reply-To: <802626.75890.qm@web53804.mail.re2.yahoo.com> from "Kit Kat" at
	Jul 22, 2007 12:24:51 PM
Message-ID: <E1ICjXb-0007BL-Vh@shell1.iglou.com>

> i know a way with foot paws that has foam, a place mat, and slippers but =
> isnt required

A placemat? Interesting use for them. I used slippers for a couple 
footpaws and a 'fur sock' to fit my own feet. Camstone and Jarrell here on 
the list use slippers or sandals covered in foam with velcro up the sides 
so they can put them on. Main reason we used those was for foot protection 
to a degree since we've walked on some pretty unforgiving ground. I'm sure 
you've seen what asphalt, cement, and regular ground does...

I've seen various other things used like these;

- dive socks 
- possible to use dance shoes/slippers as part of feet? 
- regular shoes/boots foamed out and furred 
- sandals/flip-flops
- rubber floor mats
- outdoor mats or "front door mats"

Some of these methods are listed in the fursuit FAQ/wiki with a few links 
going to other sites. Has anyone used other methods?

-boogi-

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From santafox at comcast.net  Sun Jul 22 21:49:48 2007
From: santafox at comcast.net (Santa Fox)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 01:49:48 +0000
Subject: FL: Quad Suit
Message-ID: <072320070149.1339.46A4093B000E86470000053B22007507449801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>

>                           This is my first ever post on the mailing list. I 
> have recently come accross a problem of finding a fursuit maker. I was 
> hoping for my first suit to be a quadrapedial suit, which I do understand is 
> hard to make, but I am certainly not a darling on a needle, and have asked 
> around many suit makers and so far all have refused to even give a quote. I 
> am therefore asking the fursuit list, has anyone had experience of quad suit 
> making? I will happily supply links of pictures of the character i would 
> like done.
> 
> Thank You
> 
> Scot Skunk

I'm one of the few who has made multiple true quadruped style suits: a billy goat, a tarantula, and a tree frog.  You can find pictures of each here:  http://www.jinglefox.com/fursuits.html

IMHO, they really aren't that much harder to make than normal suits - they just require a little more thought during the design phase, and of course, it helps if you've been able to see some techniques that work well.

Unfortunately, I don't do commissions, and I don't know of any one who does build quad suits on commission - they're still very rare - I haven't even seen another one in person, though I've heard there's at least one or two out in the fandom somewhere, and I know of a couple of people who are supposedly working on building quads for their own use.

I looked at your pictures, and your character ought to be easily buildable by having someone create a normal fursuit with a couple of slight modifications.  First, the arms have to be built to the same length as the legs, and the "gloves" built more like feet than gloves.  In the case of your character, they could be exact copies of the feet, though the inner structure could be different, since they wouldn't have to accommodate a human foot inside.

With those changes, all you then need is a hand stilt for each front leg.  You can buy professional hand stilts, though I can't tell you where - try doing some web searches to see what you can find.  Alternatively, you could make stilts yourself - I build mine from a chunk of pool noodle with a length of 1" oak wooden dowel run through the hole in the center of the noodle.  I then cap off the top with a chunk of 1/2" thick rubber and top it with a piece of 1" craft foam to give me a comfortable fit.  The real trick is that you want your stilts configured to extend your arms to be just about the same length as your legs, so you'll have to measure the difference in your arms in legs to know how long your hand stilts should be.  It's best to do this when bent over like you'll be in your costume, and it's always helpful if someone else can do the measuring for you.

Try running this information by some of the builders you've already talked with and see if any would be more willing to take on your project. 

Of course, you're going to have to get used to walking on all fours - it's not the easiest thing in the world, but it's quite fun once you get the hang of it.  Study real animals and watch the way they move their legs when they walk and run.  Then, make up some rudimentary hand stilts and start practicing at home.  You may very well want to do this before ordering your costume, just to be sure that quad is what you really want to do.  Not trying to discourage you, but I'm very small and very thin (5'1" and 105 lbs), and I know that my lightweight body type has a lot to do with my ability to pull off my quad characters so well.

Good luck, and let us all know what con your character will debut at if you do get him made as a quad, as I'm sure a lot of folks are going to want to see him (myself to start with ;-)

Cheers,
Santa Fox

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From santafox at comcast.net  Sun Jul 22 21:57:25 2007
From: santafox at comcast.net (Santa Fox)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 01:57:25 +0000
Subject: FL: Quad Suit
Message-ID: <072320070157.16273.46A40B050008CE9000003F9122064246139801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>

> web searches to see what you can find.  Alternatively, you could make stilts 
> yourself - I build mine from a chunk of pool noodle with a length of 1" oak 
> wooden dowel run through the hole in the center of the noodle.  I then cap off 
> the top with a chunk of 1/2" thick rubber and top it with a piece of 1" craft 
> foam to give me a comfortable fit.  The real trick is that you want your stilts 

I was looking this over and I realized that I didn't really explain how my stilts
work.  If you can picture what I described above, which comes out like a thick
tube, my hand simply rests on the top of the stilt, the top nestled in the palm of
my hand with my fingers wrapped around the outside (I use the thinner pool
noodles, BTW, not the thicker ones).  So, I'm grasping the stilt like you would
grab the lid of a jar to twist it open.  In this position, I can comfortably rest half
of my weight on the stilts that are in the palms of my hands, but I can also lift
each leg up and move it around, effectively giving me a flexible leg joint at
my wrist that mimics a "knee".

Hope this all helps.  If you need more details or have further questions, please
feel free to ask, on list or off.

Cheers,
Santa Fox
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From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Mon Jul 23 01:03:53 2007
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:03:53 +0000
Subject: FL: Quad Suit
In-Reply-To: <072320070149.1339.46A4093B000E86470000053B22007507449801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY101-F2394B543D80DEB82C46E8EA9F70@phx.gbl>

I know the late pouchhopper had made some, and some other guy is thinking of 
it and wolftail has a project on mking one.


>From: santafox at comcast.net (Santa Fox)
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: Re: FL: Quad Suit
>Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 01:49:48 +0000
>
> >                           This is my first ever post on the mailing 
>list. I
> > have recently come accross a problem of finding a fursuit maker. I was
> > hoping for my first suit to be a quadrapedial suit, which I do 
>understand is
> > hard to make, but I am certainly not a darling on a needle, and have 
>asked
> > around many suit makers and so far all have refused to even give a 
>quote. I
> > am therefore asking the fursuit list, has anyone had experience of quad 
>suit
> > making? I will happily supply links of pictures of the character i would
> > like done.
> >
> > Thank You
> >
> > Scot Skunk
>
>I'm one of the few who has made multiple true quadruped style suits: a 
>billy goat, a tarantula, and a tree frog.  You can find pictures of each 
>here:  http://www.jinglefox.com/fursuits.html
>
>IMHO, they really aren't that much harder to make than normal suits - they 
>just require a little more thought during the design phase, and of course, 
>it helps if you've been able to see some techniques that work well.
>
>Unfortunately, I don't do commissions, and I don't know of any one who does 
>build quad suits on commission - they're still very rare - I haven't even 
>seen another one in person, though I've heard there's at least one or two 
>out in the fandom somewhere, and I know of a couple of people who are 
>supposedly working on building quads for their own use.
>
>I looked at your pictures, and your character ought to be easily buildable 
>by having someone create a normal fursuit with a couple of slight 
>modifications.  First, the arms have to be built to the same length as the 
>legs, and the "gloves" built more like feet than gloves.  In the case of 
>your character, they could be exact copies of the feet, though the inner 
>structure could be different, since they wouldn't have to accommodate a 
>human foot inside.
>
>With those changes, all you then need is a hand stilt for each front leg.  
>You can buy professional hand stilts, though I can't tell you where - try 
>doing some web searches to see what you can find.  Alternatively, you could 
>make stilts yourself - I build mine from a chunk of pool noodle with a 
>length of 1" oak wooden dowel run through the hole in the center of the 
>noodle.  I then cap off the top with a chunk of 1/2" thick rubber and top 
>it with a piece of 1" craft foam to give me a comfortable fit.  The real 
>trick is that you want your stilts configured to extend your arms to be 
>just about the same length as your legs, so you'll have to measure the 
>difference in your arms in legs to know how long your hand stilts should 
>be.  It's best to do this when bent over like you'll be in your costume, 
>and it's always helpful if someone else can do the measuring for you.
>
>Try running this information by some of the builders you've already talked 
>with and see if any would be more willing to take on your project.
>
>Of course, you're going to have to get used to walking on all fours - it's 
>not the easiest thing in the world, but it's quite fun once you get the 
>hang of it.  Study real animals and watch the way they move their legs when 
>they walk and run.  Then, make up some rudimentary hand stilts and start 
>practicing at home.  You may very well want to do this before ordering your 
>costume, just to be sure that quad is what you really want to do.  Not 
>trying to discourage you, but I'm very small and very thin (5'1" and 105 
>lbs), and I know that my lightweight body type has a lot to do with my 
>ability to pull off my quad characters so well.
>
>Good luck, and let us all know what con your character will debut at if you 
>do get him made as a quad, as I'm sure a lot of folks are going to want to 
>see him (myself to start with ;-)
>
>Cheers,
>Santa Fox
>
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Mon Jul 23 05:04:22 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:04:22 -0700
Subject: FL: Fursuit! Hardcore!!!
In-Reply-To: <b1c118750707221222i571f0316s5922b74af7a0d330@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3bcb12380707211346j16e38abfpb556d1770b076892@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY101-F37DC75D7432506DE903022A9F60@phx.gbl>
	<577261b40707221055l6e56d8cesbc111ad111f88964@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1c118750707221222i571f0316s5922b74af7a0d330@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0707230204j54f6c7deq994e2b618144d765@mail.gmail.com>

Does sleeping in a 18 wheeler at truck stops in fursuit when it could
be physically dangerous count as being a hard core fursuiter?
"Physically dangerous" As in having half a dozen guys help your body
fluids go from your insides to the ground.

If so then I guess I am a hard core fursuiter. I sleep in my semi in
fursuit. Not Just a sleeper suit but a full mascot fursuit including
the head, feet hooves and hand hooves.

I think I am as furry as they come. I have done furry art. *Not
anything that I would think that anyone that is not ought right blind
drunk would think is good. At least that I don't think so.* I am close
to having my first story put up onto yiffstar.com. With more to come.
Also I am a fursuiter that wants to be thrown into the oven in fursuit
when I am no more. Is there anything that I am missing to being a hard
core furry? =b

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Mon Jul 23 08:54:48 2007
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:54:48 +0000
Subject: FL: Fursuit! Hardcore!!!
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0707230204j54f6c7deq994e2b618144d765@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY101-F218A8B7D1B5030E14C77AAA9F70@phx.gbl>

what I was thinking as being cremated and want my fursuit burried in a 
glass/metal coffin holding my ashes, with a head stone in the shape of my 
fursona.... I think that is hard core.


>From: Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: Re: FL: Fursuit! Hardcore!!!
>Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:04:22 -0700
>
>Does sleeping in a 18 wheeler at truck stops in fursuit when it could
>be physically dangerous count as being a hard core fursuiter?
>"Physically dangerous" As in having half a dozen guys help your body
>fluids go from your insides to the ground.
>
>If so then I guess I am a hard core fursuiter. I sleep in my semi in
>fursuit. Not Just a sleeper suit but a full mascot fursuit including
>the head, feet hooves and hand hooves.
>
>I think I am as furry as they come. I have done furry art. *Not
>anything that I would think that anyone that is not ought right blind
>drunk would think is good. At least that I don't think so.* I am close
>to having my first story put up onto yiffstar.com. With more to come.
>Also I am a fursuiter that wants to be thrown into the oven in fursuit
>when I am no more. Is there anything that I am missing to being a hard
>core furry? =b
>
>His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Mon Jul 23 09:03:02 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:03:02 -0400
Subject: FL: Quad Suit
In-Reply-To: <072320070149.1339.46A4093B000E86470000053B22007507449801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>
References: <072320070149.1339.46A4093B000E86470000053B22007507449801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <846A834D-1D1A-4292-A58F-E68386192E24@flyingfox.biz>

Santa Fox,

That is some wild stuff!  I was totally entertained by Billy on the  
dancefloor at FWA this year -what a treat!  I'm glad I stayed up late  
to catch that appearance.  I'd love to see exactly how you work it  
(I'm actually the same build as you) -Hoping we get an opportunity to  
hang a little at a con - I know you're a busy guy.  The neck is one  
part that intrigues me.

Scape the Goat is actually now wearable at this point but I'm  
finishing up a few details -I can not wait bust out at the next con!   
Can't wait to meet some of you folks and begin living the fursuit  
dream =)
I'll post a link with pics soon =)

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



On Jul 22, 2007, at 9:49 PM, Santa Fox wrote:

>                           This is my first ever post on the mailing  
> list. I
> have recently come accross a problem of finding a fursuit maker. I was
> hoping for my first suit to be a quadrapedial suit, which I do  
> understand is
> hard to make, but I am certainly not a darling on a needle, and  
> have asked
> around many suit makers and so far all have refused to even give a  
> quote. I
> am therefore asking the fursuit list, has anyone had experience of  
> quad suit
> making? I will happily supply links of pictures of the character i  
> would
> like done.
>
> Thank You
>
> Scot Skunk

I'm one of the few who has made multiple true quadruped style suits:  
a billy goat, a tarantula, and a tree frog.  You can find pictures of  
each here:  http://www.jinglefox.com/fursuits.html

IMHO, they really aren't that much harder to make than normal suits -  
they just require a little more thought during the design phase, and  
of course, it helps if you've been able to see some techniques that  
work well.

Unfortunately, I don't do commissions, and I don't know of any one  
who does build quad suits on commission - they're still very rare - I  
haven't even seen another one in person, though I've heard there's at  
least one or two out in the fandom somewhere, and I know of a couple  
of people who are supposedly working on building quads for their own  
use.

I looked at your pictures, and your character ought to be easily  
buildable by having someone create a normal fursuit with a couple of  
slight modifications.  First, the arms have to be built to the same  
length as the legs, and the "gloves" built more like feet than  
gloves.  In the case of your character, they could be exact copies of  
the feet, though the inner structure could be different, since they  
wouldn't have to accommodate a human foot inside.

With those changes, all you then need is a hand stilt for each front  
leg.  You can buy professional hand stilts, though I can't tell you  
where - try doing some web searches to see what you can find.   
Alternatively, you could make stilts yourself - I build mine from a  
chunk of pool noodle with a length of 1" oak wooden dowel run through  
the hole in the center of the noodle.  I then cap off the top with a  
chunk of 1/2" thick rubber and top it with a piece of 1" craft foam  
to give me a comfortable fit.  The real trick is that you want your  
stilts configured to extend your arms to be just about the same  
length as your legs, so you'll have to measure the difference in your  
arms in legs to know how long your hand stilts should be.  It's best  
to do this when bent over like you'll be in your costume, and it's  
always helpful if someone else can do the measuring for you.

Try running this information by some of the builders you've already  
talked with and see if any would be more willing to take on your  
project.

Of course, you're going to have to get used to walking on all fours -  
it's not the easiest thing in the world, but it's quite fun once you  
get the hang of it.  Study real animals and watch the way they move  
their legs when they walk and run.  Then, make up some rudimentary  
hand stilts and start practicing at home.  You may very well want to  
do this before ordering your costume, just to be sure that quad is  
what you really want to do.  Not trying to discourage you, but I'm  
very small and very thin (5'1" and 105 lbs), and I know that my  
lightweight body type has a lot to do with my ability to pull off my  
quad characters so well.

Good luck, and let us all know what con your character will debut at  
if you do get him made as a quad, as I'm sure a lot of folks are  
going to want to see him (myself to start with ;-)

Cheers,
Santa Fox

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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Mon Jul 23 09:12:33 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:12:33 -0400
Subject: FL: Need some help here
In-Reply-To: <fd39d8000707221218p782d83e6h846d917e2fb0dca4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd39d8000707221218p782d83e6h846d917e2fb0dca4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EF5B1F64-E758-4473-92F6-F6AC2F5CC12B@flyingfox.biz>

I made my hooves with layers of foamies spray glued together to get  
the desired thickness.  of course for furfeet you'd probably want to  
use spongy foam for the sides -but the sole I used probably enough  
layers to build up to a half inch and then using "ShoeGoo" i glued a  
layer of heavy vinyl upholstery material and then two more foamies - 
then finishing it off with more shoegoo and a final layer of recycled  
rubber mat.  on the inside I simple built up a little bit of and arch  
and inserted some Dr. Scholl's so If you ask Scape... I'm Gellin' ;)
I subscribe to the "velcro on the sides" idea fur sure - that way you  
can peel the fur off and toss in the wash because feet are sure gonna  
get dirty.

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



On Jul 22, 2007, at 3:18 PM, VDragOnEyen09 VDragOnEyen09 wrote:

Hi everybody, I just want to know all the ways foot paws (lower-paws)  
could be done, I don't want to use shoes for that!!

By the way, I will create a fox suit but using my own artwork  
concept !!!

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Att.
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DragonEyE Studios
v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Mon Jul 23 10:47:17 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 07:47:17 -0700
Subject: FL: Need some help here
In-Reply-To: <E1ICjXb-0007BL-Vh@shell1.iglou.com>
References: <802626.75890.qm@web53804.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<E1ICjXb-0007BL-Vh@shell1.iglou.com>
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I have used horse boots to make front and hind hooves. The thing about
horse boots are that there sturdy with out thickness.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

From dia at critter.net  Mon Jul 23 13:17:11 2007
From: dia at critter.net (dia at critter.net)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:17:11 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: FL:  Quad Suit
In-Reply-To: <mailman.187.1185167043.14247.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
References: <mailman.187.1185167043.14247.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <1750.67.161.42.245.1185211031.squirrel@secure.critter.net>


Please share these Quad suits on LJ QuadSuits 
http://community.livejournal.com/quadsuits/profile

I am sure people will LOVE to see these and how you built them.


> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 01:49:48 +0000
> From: santafox at comcast.net (Santa Fox)
> Subject: Re: FL: Quad Suit

> I'm one of the few who has made multiple true quadruped style suits: a
> billy goat, a tarantula, and a tree frog.  You can find pictures of each
> here:  http://www.jinglefox.com/fursuits.html
>
>
> IMHO, they really aren't that much harder to make than normal suits -
> they just require a little more thought during the design phase, and of
> course, it helps if you've been able to see some techniques that work
> well.

(snipped for length) Please post this email in the community! I am sure
people would LOVE to hear from you!
-J


From auroaraedward at ywave.com  Mon Jul 23 13:54:09 2007
From: auroaraedward at ywave.com (Edward Eugene Smith)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:54:09 -0700
Subject: FL: Fursuit! Hardcore!!!
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0707230204j54f6c7deq994e2b618144d765@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3bcb12380707211346j16e38abfpb556d1770b076892@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY101-F37DC75D7432506DE903022A9F60@phx.gbl>
	<577261b40707221055l6e56d8cesbc111ad111f88964@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1c118750707221222i571f0316s5922b74af7a0d330@mail.gmail.com>
	<d23d76ca0707230204j54f6c7deq994e2b618144d765@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B6D61E1E-3945-11DC-A8D8-000A95D2D836@ywave.com>

Hey Donkey!

I'm curious. What kind of rig do you drive?
Model and year? Photo?

Car lover,
Edward
Lion of Yelm

On Jul 23, 2007, at 2:04 AM, Donkey wrote:

> Does sleeping in a 18 wheeler at truck stops in fursuit when it could
> be physically dangerous count as being a hard core fursuiter?
> "Physically dangerous" As in having half a dozen guys help your body
> fluids go from your insides to the ground.
>
> If so then I guess I am a hard core fursuiter. I sleep in my semi in
> fursuit. Not Just a sleeper suit but a full mascot fursuit including
> the head, feet hooves and hand hooves.
>
> I think I am as furry as they come. I have done furry art. *Not
> anything that I would think that anyone that is not ought right blind
> drunk would think is good. At least that I don't think so.* I am close
> to having my first story put up onto yiffstar.com. With more to come.
> Also I am a fursuiter that wants to be thrown into the oven in fursuit
> when I am no more. Is there anything that I am missing to being a hard
> core furry? =b
>
> His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
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From jimwolf21 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 23 17:32:59 2007
From: jimwolf21 at yahoo.com (JWolf)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:32:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Fursuiter contact?
Message-ID: <853435.99209.qm@web54503.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


Is Rain Cheetah on this list or does anyone here know
him? I believe he was the cheetah suiter in the
fursuit parade wearing a leather vest and chaps.

Jimmy Wolf


       
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http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow  

From geary at bright.net  Mon Jul 23 18:37:08 2007
From: geary at bright.net (Aerofox)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:37:08 -0400
Subject: FL: Until next time...
In-Reply-To: <1750.67.161.42.245.1185211031.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
References: <mailman.187.1185167043.14247.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<1750.67.161.42.245.1185211031.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
Message-ID: <A3C93CC4-3AD4-48A0-A7C3-85FF61D05FE2@bright.net>

Just saying goodbye

I'm not doing anyone (or myself) any good here.

Thanks for everything and i'll probably see some of you around.

-Aerofox

From m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de  Tue Jul 24 06:33:51 2007
From: m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de (m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:33:51 +0200
Subject: FL: Fursuiter contact?
In-Reply-To: <853435.99209.qm@web54503.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <853435.99209.qm@web54503.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1997970358.20070724123351@maskottchen-germany.de>

Hi J.Wolf,

Nerver heard of the guy.

Grettings 

Atalon the Deer


>------
> Is Rain Cheetah on this list or does anyone here know
> him? I believe he was the cheetah suiter in the
> fursuit parade wearing a leather vest and chaps.

> Jimmy Wolf


>        
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From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Tue Jul 24 13:02:24 2007
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:02:24 +0000
Subject: FL: Until next time...
In-Reply-To: <A3C93CC4-3AD4-48A0-A7C3-85FF61D05FE2@bright.net>
Message-ID: <BAY101-F378ACA79501805C8FBFDABA9F00@phx.gbl>

What do you mean by good bye and that you are not doing yourself or anyone 
any good?


>From: Aerofox <geary at bright.net>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: FL: Until next time...
>Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:37:08 -0400
>
>Just saying goodbye
>
>I'm not doing anyone (or myself) any good here.
>
>Thanks for everything and i'll probably see some of you around.
>
>-Aerofox
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From aerak.wolf at gmail.com  Tue Jul 24 13:14:00 2007
From: aerak.wolf at gmail.com (Aerak Wolf)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:14:00 -0500
Subject: FL: Until next time...
In-Reply-To: <A3C93CC4-3AD4-48A0-A7C3-85FF61D05FE2@bright.net>
References: <mailman.187.1185167043.14247.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
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	<A3C93CC4-3AD4-48A0-A7C3-85FF61D05FE2@bright.net>
Message-ID: <2373a4f90707241013o32a86321u142432c861f6b48b@mail.gmail.com>

Goodbye?  But why?

-Aerak

On 7/23/07, Aerofox <geary at bright.net> wrote:
>
> Just saying goodbye
>
> I'm not doing anyone (or myself) any good here.
>
> Thanks for everything and i'll probably see some of you around.
>
> -Aerofox
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From seaweed at seaweedotter.com  Tue Jul 24 13:25:53 2007
From: seaweed at seaweedotter.com (seaweed)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:25:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: FL: Until next time...
In-Reply-To: <2373a4f90707241013o32a86321u142432c861f6b48b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.187.1185167043.14247.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<1750.67.161.42.245.1185211031.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
	<A3C93CC4-3AD4-48A0-A7C3-85FF61D05FE2@bright.net>
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Message-ID: <3652.206.57.3.182.1185297953.squirrel@webmail.gushi.org>

> Goodbye?  But why?
>
> -Aerak
>



Guys, before we get a flood.. perhaps we should keep this to private
emails? Chances are he won't read them here anyways.. so email him
directly. I just don't want a flood of emails.


Thanks

From camstone at dirtdeninn.com  Wed Jul 25 21:31:24 2007
From: camstone at dirtdeninn.com (Camstone)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:31:24 -0400
Subject: FL: AC Parade
In-Reply-To: <002f01c7c5ae$c9120050$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>
References: <674234.42505.qm@web56910.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<002f01c7c5ae$c9120050$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>
Message-ID: <46A7F96C.7010701@dirtdeninn.com>

Lucky wrote:
> It was 353.  I know, cause my suit, Ooga Chaka, the purple furry 
> eater, was the last one in line at the end of the parade.

Uhm... no, you weren't quite the last one, Lucky. ;) For the last three 
years at AC, and at other cons - I've been making and carrying a sign at 
the end of the parade for both the fans and the suiters alike to know 
"the number of fursuits in the parade." Mostly for fun, but it's helped 
those who plan cons be able to gage the percentage of fursuits to 
attendees, and allowed planners to estimate what's needed for headless 
lounges or other fursuit activities. I think it's also brought many 
fursuiters to the con, wanting to be part of a larger fursuiting event - 
and those who make them, to show them off with lots of others.

Let's face it, fursuiting is getting popular and a lot of fun!

And yes, just a bit of clarification. The count at AC the last three 
years has "unofficially" officially been done by the Dorsai Irregulars 
each year - and "I" use their count for the sign I make and carry. This 
year, it was first conducted as the exit to the outside photograph and 
came up to 341, but it couldn't be verified. So, I asked the Dorsai to 
do another count - and they graciously said they would for us.

So, a repeat count was made by their able staff at the exit to the 
dealer's room. That number was given to me by the head of their security 
detail as "353."

While many say there are a lot more fursuiters at the con (which there 
obviously is) - it's so far been the only count that can be made with 
any kind of regularity and consistently.  Otherwise there will always be 
those who say "I suited, why didn't you count me too?" And truth be 
told, there really is no need to count every fursuiter at every con. 
Even the count for the parade is mostly done for fun - those who do it 
want to know the number  - just to know and feel part of a larger group 
that was in the parade. Although some seem to think it's some sort of 
competition between FC and AC. There isn't really. Of couse if it brings 
more fur suiters to the cons, and everyone has more fun for it... maybe 
it's still a good thing. So far, it seems a relatively conservative 
estimate that 15% of con attendees at most of the popular cons, are 
fursuiters.

And I am more than willing to listen to alternatives, including not 
doing the count at all - as has been already suggested to me. Others, 
want me to continue and have asked me to get Guinness World Records in 
to do an official count at the parade next year at AC (that is pending a 
final approval from the AC Board of Directors, regardless of any 
suggestions.) Truthfully, there were likely over 400 suits at AC this 
year. Likely to be even more at FC when it next occurs. What happens 
from there... who knows!

So, does anyone really care... or should the counting just be ended?

- Camstone

From antimon at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 26 01:39:39 2007
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 01:39:39 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: FL: AC Parade
Message-ID: <17897298.1185428379477.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

counting is good, I know I always await the final count, and of course it's not perfect but it's a base line at least, you know it's no less then that number in any event.

Ideally, I'd like to be able to register at a con as a fursuiter, thats your only real true count thats about as accurate as you can get

-----Original Message-----
>From: Camstone <camstone at dirtdeninn.com>
>Sent: Jul 25, 2007 9:31 PM
>To: Lucky <abaddoggy at sbcglobal.net>, fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: Re: FL: AC Parade
>
>Lucky wrote:
>> It was 353.  I know, cause my suit, Ooga Chaka, the purple furry 
>> eater, was the last one in line at the end of the parade.
>
>Uhm... no, you weren't quite the last one, Lucky. ;) For the last three 
>years at AC, and at other cons - I've been making and carrying a sign at 
>the end of the parade for both the fans and the suiters alike to know 
>"the number of fursuits in the parade." Mostly for fun, but it's helped 
>those who plan cons be able to gage the percentage of fursuits to 
>attendees, and allowed planners to estimate what's needed for headless 
>lounges or other fursuit activities. I think it's also brought many 
>fursuiters to the con, wanting to be part of a larger fursuiting event - 
>and those who make them, to show them off with lots of others.
>
>Let's face it, fursuiting is getting popular and a lot of fun!
>
>And yes, just a bit of clarification. The count at AC the last three 
>years has "unofficially" officially been done by the Dorsai Irregulars 
>each year - and "I" use their count for the sign I make and carry. This 
>year, it was first conducted as the exit to the outside photograph and 
>came up to 341, but it couldn't be verified. So, I asked the Dorsai to 
>do another count - and they graciously said they would for us.
>
>So, a repeat count was made by their able staff at the exit to the 
>dealer's room. That number was given to me by the head of their security 
>detail as "353."
>
>While many say there are a lot more fursuiters at the con (which there 
>obviously is) - it's so far been the only count that can be made with 
>any kind of regularity and consistently.  Otherwise there will always be 
>those who say "I suited, why didn't you count me too?" And truth be 
>told, there really is no need to count every fursuiter at every con. 
>Even the count for the parade is mostly done for fun - those who do it 
>want to know the number  - just to know and feel part of a larger group 
>that was in the parade. Although some seem to think it's some sort of 
>competition between FC and AC. There isn't really. Of couse if it brings 
>more fur suiters to the cons, and everyone has more fun for it... maybe 
>it's still a good thing. So far, it seems a relatively conservative 
>estimate that 15% of con attendees at most of the popular cons, are 
>fursuiters.
>
>And I am more than willing to listen to alternatives, including not 
>doing the count at all - as has been already suggested to me. Others, 
>want me to continue and have asked me to get Guinness World Records in 
>to do an official count at the parade next year at AC (that is pending a 
>final approval from the AC Board of Directors, regardless of any 
>suggestions.) Truthfully, there were likely over 400 suits at AC this 
>year. Likely to be even more at FC when it next occurs. What happens 
>from there... who knows!
>
>So, does anyone really care... or should the counting just be ended?
>
>- Camstone
>_______________________________________________
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From catofmount at hughes.net  Thu Jul 26 17:56:47 2007
From: catofmount at hughes.net (Mr Cougar)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:56:47 -0400
Subject: FL: AC Parade
References: <674234.42505.qm@web56910.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002f01c7c5ae$c9120050$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>
	<46A7F96C.7010701@dirtdeninn.com>
Message-ID: <001201c7cfcf$e34183d0$3120730a@Cougars>

"Camstone" <camstone at dirtdeninn.com


>> Uhm... no, you weren't quite the last one, Lucky. ;) For the last three
> years at AC, and at other cons - I've been making and carrying a sign at
> the end of the parade for both the fans and the suiters alike to know
> "the number of fursuits in the parade."

It doesnt matter who's first or last, its good to see that the number of 
suiters is increasing.

-F J Cougar- 


From scotskunk at hotmail.co.uk  Thu Jul 26 18:06:23 2007
From: scotskunk at hotmail.co.uk (Scot Skunk)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:06:23 +0100
Subject: FL: Quad Suit
In-Reply-To: <072320070149.1339.46A4093B000E86470000053B22007507449801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY113-F36534D1810AD4704FA52E3F1F20@phx.gbl>

Dear Santa Fox,
                      Thank you for the advice. I admit it will be slightly 
harder for me to perfect being in quadraped (I'm 6'0 and 150lbs), but I am 
desparate to be this character, it's almost screaming out at me, hehe.

Scot Skunk


>From: santafox at comcast.net (Santa Fox)
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: Re: FL: Quad Suit
>Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 01:49:48 +0000
>
> >                           This is my first ever post on the mailing 
>list. I
> > have recently come accross a problem of finding a fursuit maker. I was
> > hoping for my first suit to be a quadrapedial suit, which I do 
>understand is
> > hard to make, but I am certainly not a darling on a needle, and have 
>asked
> > around many suit makers and so far all have refused to even give a 
>quote. I
> > am therefore asking the fursuit list, has anyone had experience of quad 
>suit
> > making? I will happily supply links of pictures of the character i would
> > like done.
> >
> > Thank You
> >
> > Scot Skunk
>
>I'm one of the few who has made multiple true quadruped style suits: a 
>billy goat, a tarantula, and a tree frog.  You can find pictures of each 
>here:  http://www.jinglefox.com/fursuits.html
>
>IMHO, they really aren't that much harder to make than normal suits - they 
>just require a little more thought during the design phase, and of course, 
>it helps if you've been able to see some techniques that work well.
>
>Unfortunately, I don't do commissions, and I don't know of any one who does 
>build quad suits on commission - they're still very rare - I haven't even 
>seen another one in person, though I've heard there's at least one or two 
>out in the fandom somewhere, and I know of a couple of people who are 
>supposedly working on building quads for their own use.
>
>I looked at your pictures, and your character ought to be easily buildable 
>by having someone create a normal fursuit with a couple of slight 
>modifications.  First, the arms have to be built to the same length as the 
>legs, and the "gloves" built more like feet than gloves.  In the case of 
>your character, they could be exact copies of the feet, though the inner 
>structure could be different, since they wouldn't have to accommodate a 
>human foot inside.
>
>With those changes, all you then need is a hand stilt for each front leg.  
>You can buy professional hand stilts, though I can't tell you where - try 
>doing some web searches to see what you can find.  Alternatively, you could 
>make stilts yourself - I build mine from a chunk of pool noodle with a 
>length of 1" oak wooden dowel run through the hole in the center of the 
>noodle.  I then cap off the top with a chunk of 1/2" thick rubber and top 
>it with a piece of 1" craft foam to give me a comfortable fit.  The real 
>trick is that you want your stilts configured to extend your arms to be 
>just about the same length as your legs, so you'll have to measure the 
>difference in your arms in legs to know how long your hand stilts should 
>be.  It's best to do this when bent over like you'll be in your costume, 
>and it's always helpful if someone else can do the measuring for you.
>
>Try running this information by some of the builders you've already talked 
>with and see if any would be more willing to take on your project.
>
>Of course, you're going to have to get used to walking on all fours - it's 
>not the easiest thing in the world, but it's quite fun once you get the 
>hang of it.  Study real animals and watch the way they move their legs when 
>they walk and run.  Then, make up some rudimentary hand stilts and start 
>practicing at home.  You may very well want to do this before ordering your 
>costume, just to be sure that quad is what you really want to do.  Not 
>trying to discourage you, but I'm very small and very thin (5'1" and 105 
>lbs), and I know that my lightweight body type has a lot to do with my 
>ability to pull off my quad characters so well.
>
>Good luck, and let us all know what con your character will debut at if you 
>do get him made as a quad, as I'm sure a lot of folks are going to want to 
>see him (myself to start with ;-)
>
>Cheers,
>Santa Fox
>
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From scotskunk at hotmail.co.uk  Thu Jul 26 18:06:57 2007
From: scotskunk at hotmail.co.uk (Scot Skunk)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:06:57 +0100
Subject: FL: Quad Suit
In-Reply-To: <072320070149.1339.46A4093B000E86470000053B22007507449801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY113-F33612FB848D501C6FBEAAFF1F20@phx.gbl>

Dear Santa Fox,
                      Thank you for the advice. I admit it will be slightly 
harder for me to perfect being in quadraped (I'm 6'0 and 150lbs), but I am 
desparate to be this character, it's almost screaming out at me, hehe.

Scot Skunk


>From: santafox at comcast.net (Santa Fox)
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: Re: FL: Quad Suit
>Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 01:49:48 +0000
>
> >                           This is my first ever post on the mailing 
>list. I
> > have recently come accross a problem of finding a fursuit maker. I was
> > hoping for my first suit to be a quadrapedial suit, which I do 
>understand is
> > hard to make, but I am certainly not a darling on a needle, and have 
>asked
> > around many suit makers and so far all have refused to even give a 
>quote. I
> > am therefore asking the fursuit list, has anyone had experience of quad 
>suit
> > making? I will happily supply links of pictures of the character i would
> > like done.
> >
> > Thank You
> >
> > Scot Skunk
>
>I'm one of the few who has made multiple true quadruped style suits: a 
>billy goat, a tarantula, and a tree frog.  You can find pictures of each 
>here:  http://www.jinglefox.com/fursuits.html
>
>IMHO, they really aren't that much harder to make than normal suits - they 
>just require a little more thought during the design phase, and of course, 
>it helps if you've been able to see some techniques that work well.
>
>Unfortunately, I don't do commissions, and I don't know of any one who does 
>build quad suits on commission - they're still very rare - I haven't even 
>seen another one in person, though I've heard there's at least one or two 
>out in the fandom somewhere, and I know of a couple of people who are 
>supposedly working on building quads for their own use.
>
>I looked at your pictures, and your character ought to be easily buildable 
>by having someone create a normal fursuit with a couple of slight 
>modifications.  First, the arms have to be built to the same length as the 
>legs, and the "gloves" built more like feet than gloves.  In the case of 
>your character, they could be exact copies of the feet, though the inner 
>structure could be different, since they wouldn't have to accommodate a 
>human foot inside.
>
>With those changes, all you then need is a hand stilt for each front leg.  
>You can buy professional hand stilts, though I can't tell you where - try 
>doing some web searches to see what you can find.  Alternatively, you could 
>make stilts yourself - I build mine from a chunk of pool noodle with a 
>length of 1" oak wooden dowel run through the hole in the center of the 
>noodle.  I then cap off the top with a chunk of 1/2" thick rubber and top 
>it with a piece of 1" craft foam to give me a comfortable fit.  The real 
>trick is that you want your stilts configured to extend your arms to be 
>just about the same length as your legs, so you'll have to measure the 
>difference in your arms in legs to know how long your hand stilts should 
>be.  It's best to do this when bent over like you'll be in your costume, 
>and it's always helpful if someone else can do the measuring for you.
>
>Try running this information by some of the builders you've already talked 
>with and see if any would be more willing to take on your project.
>
>Of course, you're going to have to get used to walking on all fours - it's 
>not the easiest thing in the world, but it's quite fun once you get the 
>hang of it.  Study real animals and watch the way they move their legs when 
>they walk and run.  Then, make up some rudimentary hand stilts and start 
>practicing at home.  You may very well want to do this before ordering your 
>costume, just to be sure that quad is what you really want to do.  Not 
>trying to discourage you, but I'm very small and very thin (5'1" and 105 
>lbs), and I know that my lightweight body type has a lot to do with my 
>ability to pull off my quad characters so well.
>
>Good luck, and let us all know what con your character will debut at if you 
>do get him made as a quad, as I'm sure a lot of folks are going to want to 
>see him (myself to start with ;-)
>
>Cheers,
>Santa Fox
>
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From rigeldc at verizon.net  Thu Jul 26 19:28:52 2007
From: rigeldc at verizon.net (Brian Harris)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:28:52 -0400
Subject: FL: AC Parade
In-Reply-To: <mailman.7.1185465609.19797.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20070726192256.03709b38@incoming.verizon.net>

At 12:00 PM 7/26/2007 -0400, Camstone wrote:
>So, does anyone really care... or should the counting just be ended?

I don't want this to be misinterpreted, but the count is good for when the 
media suggests that furry fandom is solely about people who dress up in 
costumes, as they are wont to do.  The parade number can be used as hard 
evidence that costuming, while the most visually sensational aspect to the 
media, is just one facet of a larger culture.

- Rigel


From chakawolf at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 26 19:35:37 2007
From: chakawolf at hotmail.com (Chaka Wolf)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:35:37 -0500
Subject: FL: Quad Suit
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-F33612FB848D501C6FBEAAFF1F20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY134-F353D9E411ABD2A0A178416BDF20@phx.gbl>




>From: "Scot Skunk" <scotskunk at hotmail.co.uk>
I am desparate to be this character, it's almost screaming out at me, hehe.


That is probably the best reason to do it.  And the one most likely to 
ensure success.

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From FenrysStar at aol.com  Fri Jul 27 02:10:04 2007
From: FenrysStar at aol.com (FenrysStar at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 02:10:04 EDT
Subject: FL: AC Parade
Message-ID: <d14.f22512d.33dae63c@aol.com>

Fursuiting is a large part of furry fandom but it is still just a facet. I 
personally am on the fence on whether to fursuit or not. It has been a subject 
for internal debate since my first AC six years ago. My problem, besides 
convincing other parts of my own mind that this is not silly and will not make me 
any less of a man by dressing up as some fugitive from a theme park but is 
merely a facet of my own personality, is deciding what version of my own damn 
character to make. Do I make a lupin ranger, take a geek point if you can identify 
the game its from, a tiger-striped german sheperd pirate, or some canid 
soldier? It's time like this that I really have too much creativity for my own good.



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From grey_llama at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 27 12:25:10 2007
From: grey_llama at yahoo.com (Sean Rook)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 09:25:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Fursuit Count
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1185552009.28856.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <584901.43693.qm@web57612.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Actually, I'd like to start seeing a count by species.
 Then we can truly disprove those spurious allegations
by the media concerning which animal is currently in
fad.



Though... pull out the abacus to take into account all
those fractions brought on by hybrid species, we may
need an accounting ledger to do this right.

"One, two... three.  Three fursuits! Ah ah ah!"
http://bkmarcus.com/blog/images/TV/TheCount-3.jpg

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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Fri Jul 27 14:12:25 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:12:25 -0700
Subject: FL: Fursuit Count
In-Reply-To: <584901.43693.qm@web57612.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.3.1185552009.28856.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<584901.43693.qm@web57612.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
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Well I have
Donkey
Red Kangaroo
Rottweiler
Muledeer
Long Horn Sheep
red and white Bull
Zebra
Goat (Almost done)
Two Unicorns (Body suits done needs heads)
Rhinoceros (Plans on being built)

My Master has a Minotaur.

I dont know, I might lean torts Hooves?

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 7/27/07, Sean Rook <grey_llama at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Actually, I'd like to start seeing a count by species.
>  Then we can truly disprove those spurious allegations
> by the media concerning which animal is currently in
> fad.
>
>
>
> Though... pull out the abacus to take into account all
> those fractions brought on by hybrid species, we may
> need an accounting ledger to do this right.
>
> "One, two... three.  Three fursuits! Ah ah ah!"
> http://bkmarcus.com/blog/images/TV/TheCount-3.jpg
>
> -Freaky Lynx

From anthrobunny at gmail.com  Fri Jul 27 19:12:26 2007
From: anthrobunny at gmail.com (Blackberry)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:12:26 -0700
Subject: FL: Fursuit Count
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0707271112m29d9492ax60ba6ced09f0e6ad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.3.1185552009.28856.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<584901.43693.qm@web57612.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <982832d90707271612k566e2458p666fda22a9031ffb@mail.gmail.com>

Rabbit (retired)
Horse (semi-retired)
Bat (in production)
Tanuki (in production)

-- 
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I like playing board games more than most people do, and I like board
games more than I like most people." - Strong Sad, homestarrunner.com

From blue_heel at fsun.net  Fri Jul 27 21:33:08 2007
From: blue_heel at fsun.net (Doctor)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:33:08 -0500
Subject: FL: MFM: It's nearly upon us.
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20070727193334.02484188@mail.fsun.net>


---

A little less conversation, a little more action please
All this aggravation ain't satisfactioning me
A little more bite and a little less bark
A little less fight and a little more spark
Close your mouth and open up your heart and baby satisfy me
Satisfy me baby

  -Elvis

---

That's right, ladies and gentlefurs.  We will have more action, we will 
have more bite, more spark.  It's all about the Masquerade at Mephit 
FurMeet.  There will be performances to entertain, and to enlighten.  If 
you think Vegas has the greatest shows, then you've never been to the Masq 
at MFM.  In case you have missed all my references, they are all from Vegas 
movies or music.  If you're a fursuiter, you should think about performing 
(it does help to have your act prepared before you get there).  Sign up has 
been moved to Friday night, look at the schedule.  If you don't want to be 
in an act, I am still looking for two fursuiters that aren't in any of the 
acts.  If you just want to watch, PLEASE come and watch the show on Sunday.

It's BIG, It's BOLD, and it's Vegas Baby

Blue

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From chakawolf at hotmail.com  Sat Jul 28 12:07:12 2007
From: chakawolf at hotmail.com (Chaka Wolf)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:07:12 -0500
Subject: FL: Good Bye
In-Reply-To: <577261b40707221055l6e56d8cesbc111ad111f88964@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY134-F221448A061EC12AD92FB38BDEC0@phx.gbl>

I am unsubscribing from the list.  This chapter in my life, if not over, has 
at least had the door closed rather firmly.

Chaka

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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sat Jul 28 14:24:48 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:24:48 -0700
Subject: FL: Good Bye
In-Reply-To: <BAY134-F221448A061EC12AD92FB38BDEC0@phx.gbl>
References: <577261b40707221055l6e56d8cesbc111ad111f88964@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY134-F221448A061EC12AD92FB38BDEC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0707281124x66793ea5j263f56db797ba909@mail.gmail.com>

Its a fandom. Older furs leave and younger furs take there place.
People grow out of fandoms. They find others things of interest that
they don't think is childish. Furry base will always be the young
people. That's not saying that us old decrepit gray muzzles with are
walkers wont always be around. Some one has to keep the young foals
out of trouble. Or is that to encourage them to get into trouble? I'm
not sure on that one point. None the less. We will always be a
minority in the fandom. The whippersnappers will have to just learn to
go around us old farts.

His Most Royally old and decrepit gray muzzled Highass, Donkey

ps Since I am a donkey and I have always been gray. Does that mean
that I can make up for it by acting like a colt all the time with out
getting into trouble for my antics?

On 7/28/07, Chaka Wolf <chakawolf at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I am unsubscribing from the list.  This chapter in my life, if not over, has
> at least had the door closed rather firmly.
>
> Chaka
>
> _________________________________________________________________
>

From saebianfrobosh at gmail.com  Sat Jul 28 14:26:04 2007
From: saebianfrobosh at gmail.com (Saebian Frobosh)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 12:26:04 -0600
Subject: FL: Good Bye
In-Reply-To: <BAY134-F221448A061EC12AD92FB38BDEC0@phx.gbl>
References: <577261b40707221055l6e56d8cesbc111ad111f88964@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <b5d7e70b0707281126m1dabf333qe9c8b736dcdac91c@mail.gmail.com>

Its kind of frustrating that furs are willing to state that they are leaving
the list but there is no evidence as to why posted.

On 7/28/07, Chaka Wolf <chakawolf at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am unsubscribing from the list.  This chapter in my life, if not over,
> has
> at least had the door closed rather firmly.
>
> Chaka
>
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From saebianfrobosh at gmail.com  Sat Jul 28 14:36:20 2007
From: saebianfrobosh at gmail.com (Saebian Frobosh)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 12:36:20 -0600
Subject: FL: Good Bye
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0707281124x66793ea5j263f56db797ba909@mail.gmail.com>
References: <577261b40707221055l6e56d8cesbc111ad111f88964@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks Donkey,

Oh if its to Exhibitioning your Antics! by all means Colt-a-fy yourself!
Me .. I am in the middle groud, hard to find furs my age,
But I am furry by the nature of my existance (may sound corney I know =D )
and that part will hardly change to the point of leaving myself , its more
than a fandom to me.

So something on forum topi:
I am refining my skills at the moment by sewing 3 button up shirts, 2 pairs
of shorts then two hats. then I will tackle my second fur suit!!!

Saebian Frobosh


On 7/28/07, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Its a fandom. Older furs leave and younger furs take there place.
> People grow out of fandoms. They find others things of interest that
> they don't think is childish. Furry base will always be the young
> people. That's not saying that us old decrepit gray muzzles with are
> walkers wont always be around. Some one has to keep the young foals
> out of trouble. Or is that to encourage them to get into trouble? I'm
> not sure on that one point. None the less. We will always be a
> minority in the fandom. The whippersnappers will have to just learn to
> go around us old farts.
>
> His Most Royally old and decrepit gray muzzled Highass, Donkey
>
> ps Since I am a donkey and I have always been gray. Does that mean
> that I can make up for it by acting like a colt all the time with out
> getting into trouble for my antics?
>
> On 7/28/07, Chaka Wolf <chakawolf at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I am unsubscribing from the list.  This chapter in my life, if not over,
> has
> > at least had the door closed rather firmly.
> >
> > Chaka
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> >
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sat Jul 28 14:37:10 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:37:10 -0700
Subject: FL: Good Bye
In-Reply-To: <b5d7e70b0707281126m1dabf333qe9c8b736dcdac91c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <577261b40707221055l6e56d8cesbc111ad111f88964@mail.gmail.com>
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??? It was very clear to me why Chaka Wolf left. He out grown being a fur.
To be a furry one MUST have some childish part of them self's that wants a
out let.
The only way I will be leaving furry is in a wooden box. And that is only my
physical body. My spirit will always be around the fandom. So after my
passing. If you see a ghost in a fursuit at a fur com that's just me
enjoying the con. Dont get scared just wave at me.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 7/28/07, Saebian Frobosh <saebianfrobosh at gmail.com> wrote:
> Its kind of frustrating that furs are willing to state that they are
leaving
> the list but there is no evidence as to why posted.
>
>
> On 7/28/07, Chaka Wolf <chakawolf at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I am unsubscribing from the list.  This chapter in my life, if not over,
> has
> > at least had the door closed rather firmly.
> >
> > Chaka
> >
> >
> _________________________________________________________________
> >
>
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> >
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From RTRabbitNY at aol.com  Sat Jul 28 14:39:38 2007
From: RTRabbitNY at aol.com (RTRabbitNY at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:39:38 EDT
Subject: FL: Good Bye
Message-ID: <d33.12bb164c.33dce76a@aol.com>

Personally I can't see myself leaving a community of folks that have been  
doing the same stuff that I've been doing a full decade before the community  
even existed.
 
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sat Jul 28 14:46:47 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:46:47 -0700
Subject: FL: Good Bye
In-Reply-To: <b5d7e70b0707281136h36022da6v21d4ee7b6dc390db@mail.gmail.com>
References: <577261b40707221055l6e56d8cesbc111ad111f88964@mail.gmail.com>
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On 7/28/07, Saebian Frobosh <saebianfrobosh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Donkey,
>
> Oh if its to Exhibitioning your Antics! by all means Colt-a-fy yourself!
> Me .. I am in the middle groud, hard to find furs my age,
> But I am furry by the nature of my existance (may sound corney I know =D ) and that part will hardly change to the point of leaving myself , its more than a fandom to me.
>
> So something on forum topi:
> I am refining my skills at the moment by sewing 3 button up shirts, 2 pairs of shorts then two hats. then I will tackle my second fur suit!!!
>
> Saebian Frobosh
>

It is more than a fandom to me also. I am a lifestyler also.
As for furs my age. There are some. I am 7 years old with 30 years of
experience and counting. As Peter Pan said " I will never grow up! I
will never grow up! Not Me!!! "

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

From saebianfrobosh at gmail.com  Sat Jul 28 14:51:17 2007
From: saebianfrobosh at gmail.com (Saebian Frobosh)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 12:51:17 -0600
Subject: FL: Good Bye
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0707281146w10493e47vca89b3f209b5a044@mail.gmail.com>
References: <577261b40707221055l6e56d8cesbc111ad111f88964@mail.gmail.com>
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32 myself,
If you figure that you spend your first 18 under the rule of your parents,
then at 36 you have only been your own person for 18 years... not old at
all.


On 7/28/07, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 7/28/07, Saebian Frobosh <saebianfrobosh at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Donkey,
> >
> > Oh if its to Exhibitioning your Antics! by all means Colt-a-fy yourself!
> > Me .. I am in the middle groud, hard to find furs my age,
> > But I am furry by the nature of my existance (may sound corney I know =D
> ) and that part will hardly change to the point of leaving myself , its more
> than a fandom to me.
> >
> > So something on forum topi:
> > I am refining my skills at the moment by sewing 3 button up shirts, 2
> pairs of shorts then two hats. then I will tackle my second fur suit!!!
> >
> > Saebian Frobosh
> >
>
> It is more than a fandom to me also. I am a lifestyler also.
> As for furs my age. There are some. I am 7 years old with 30 years of
> experience and counting. As Peter Pan said " I will never grow up! I
> will never grow up! Not Me!!! "
>
> His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
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From foxysamurai at gmail.com  Sat Jul 28 14:50:44 2007
From: foxysamurai at gmail.com (foxysamurai at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:50:44 -0500
Subject: FL: Good Bye
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0707281146w10493e47vca89b3f209b5a044@mail.gmail.com>
References: <577261b40707221055l6e56d8cesbc111ad111f88964@mail.gmail.com>
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I don't post much.. I'm not too social with most but I don't think I'll ever
"grow out" of my furry, I will proably always just have my small social
group that I enjoy spending time with and my hobby of making fursuits will
most likely never stop.

On 7/28/07, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 7/28/07, Saebian Frobosh <saebianfrobosh at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Donkey,
> >
> > Oh if its to Exhibitioning your Antics! by all means Colt-a-fy yourself!
> > Me .. I am in the middle groud, hard to find furs my age,
> > But I am furry by the nature of my existance (may sound corney I know =D
> ) and that part will hardly change to the point of leaving myself , its more
> than a fandom to me.
> >
> > So something on forum topi:
> > I am refining my skills at the moment by sewing 3 button up shirts, 2
> pairs of shorts then two hats. then I will tackle my second fur suit!!!
> >
> > Saebian Frobosh
> >
>
> It is more than a fandom to me also. I am a lifestyler also.
> As for furs my age. There are some. I am 7 years old with 30 years of
> experience and counting. As Peter Pan said " I will never grow up! I
> will never grow up! Not Me!!! "
>
> His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
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From yappyfox at thefoxden.com  Sat Jul 28 15:31:02 2007
From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (Yappy Sly Fox)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:31:02 -0400
Subject: FL: Good Bye
In-Reply-To: <BAY134-F221448A061EC12AD92FB38BDEC0@phx.gbl>
References: <577261b40707221055l6e56d8cesbc111ad111f88964@mail.gmail.com>
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I don't think he is leaving the fandom, he's just pissed off at fursuiting, cuz he got burned by scribble on a suit.

http://chakawolf.livejournal.com





On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 11:07:12AM -0500, Chaka Wolf wrote:
> I am unsubscribing from the list.  This chapter in my life, if not over, has 
> at least had the door closed rather firmly.
> 
> Chaka
> 
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From FenrysStar at aol.com  Sat Jul 28 15:50:40 2007
From: FenrysStar at aol.com (FenrysStar at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:50:40 EDT
Subject: FL: Good Bye
Message-ID: <be6.176c2907.33dcf810@aol.com>

and to think one of the personas in fur that I have is a charcoal grey wolf.



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From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Sat Jul 28 16:40:43 2007
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (Cyan FOX)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:40:43 -0400
Subject: FL: refreshing :3 Re:  Good Bye
Message-ID: <b1c118750707281340j7f4015c7r1db10d612231e34e@mail.gmail.com>

refreshing :3

i love all of you guys, furry is my chosen family: and i love my family!

hey Donkey, that's the most unique and refreshing way of stating it that
i've ever seen, very salient job <3

i was always fascinated when i saw the ``older demographic'' in the fandom,
because i did come into the fandom generally academically ( i was curious as
to why all my other subcultures seemed to be overlapping ) and at any chance
i could, i'd enjoy to ask the ``older demographic'' how or under what
pretenses did they arrive here :3

now i mostly identify spiritually, but i don't want to force my heathenistic
views on anyone so if anyone is at all interested as to my take of the
fandom, please don't hesitate to ask me <3foxfoxfox

Earth Mother's Blessings!!

On 7/28/07, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Its a fandom. Older furs leave and younger furs take there place.
> People grow out of fandoms. They find others things of interest that
> they don't think is childish. Furry base will always be the young
> people. That's not saying that us old decrepit gray muzzles with are
> walkers wont always be around. Some one has to keep the young foals
> out of trouble. Or is that to encourage them to get into trouble? I'm
> not sure on that one point. None the less. We will always be a
> minority in the fandom. The whippersnappers will have to just learn to
> go around us old farts.
>
> His Most Royally old and decrepit gray muzzled Highass, Donkey
>
> ps Since I am a donkey and I have always been gray. Does that mean
> that I can make up for it by acting like a colt all the time with out
> getting into trouble for my antics?
>
> On 7/28/07, Chaka Wolf <chakawolf at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I am unsubscribing from the list.  This chapter in my life, if not over,
> has
> > at least had the door closed rather firmly.
> >
> > Chaka
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> >
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From v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 28 21:06:35 2007
From: v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com (VDragOnEyen09 VDragOnEyen09)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:06:35 -0600
Subject: FL: Need Comments!!!
Message-ID: <fd39d8000707281806h5ab8deb7rf900ca8224a1238@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there my furry friends!

I need some feedback from all of you, I need to know what you think about a
method I'm using. It's from my own invention, I don't know if this method
will work or not.  And I don't know if someone has already done this kind of
thing. It's a way to create lower foot paw. This is the sole I want to use.
I think if you take a look to the following images maybe you will get the
idea.

http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e189/vdragoneyen09/?action=view&current=Step01.jpg
http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e189/vdragoneyen09/?action=view&current=Step02.jpg
http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e189/vdragoneyen09/?action=view&current=Step03.jpg
http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e189/vdragoneyen09/?action=view&current=Step04.jpg
http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e189/vdragoneyen09/?action=view&current=Step05.jpg

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From marcwolf at marcwolf.org  Sat Jul 28 21:08:29 2007
From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (David Boccabella)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:08:29 +1000
Subject: FL: refreshing :3 Re:  Good Bye
In-Reply-To: <b1c118750707281340j7f4015c7r1db10d612231e34e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIAEKHELAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>

<Signs>
Ah well... Some leave.. Others just like to grow old disgracefully.

Myself - several months short of being 47.  Been a fursuits for about 5 yeats and a furry for most of my life.  Of course when I loved play at being a dog around 3 or 4 I never knew that furry existed.  I was more wolf like in my teens and for the rest of my life.  I was not until I fund a piece of furry art (Thanks to 'The Werewolf") that I started to search on the net.
Sure I saw werewolf movies but they always seemed to be lacking. I saw that a werewolf should be the best blending on man and wolf.. rather than the worst parts.

So here I am.. White Muzzle, Still performing, and with many more years left in my yet. I WILL!!! make it to a con one day. Prob after Virgin gets their Australia to US flights going cheaply.

Take care

Marcwolf
  -----Original Message-----
  From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of Cyan FOX
  Sent: Sunday, 29 July 2007 06:41
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
  Subject: FL: refreshing :3 Re: Good Bye


  refreshing :3

  i love all of you guys, furry is my chosen family: and i love my family!

  hey Donkey, that's the most unique and refreshing way of stating it that i've ever seen, very salient job <3

  i was always fascinated when i saw the ``older demographic'' in the fandom, because i did come into the fandom generally academically ( i was curious as to why all my other subcultures seemed to be overlapping ) and at any chance i could, i'd enjoy to ask the ``older demographic'' how or under what pretenses did they arrive here :3 

  now i mostly identify spiritually, but i don't want to force my heathenistic views on anyone so if anyone is at all interested as to my take of the fandom, please don't hesitate to ask me <3foxfoxfox

  Earth Mother's Blessings!!


  On 7/28/07, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
    Its a fandom. Older furs leave and younger furs take there place.
    People grow out of fandoms. They find others things of interest that
    they don't think is childish. Furry base will always be the young
    people. That's not saying that us old decrepit gray muzzles with are 
    walkers wont always be around. Some one has to keep the young foals
    out of trouble. Or is that to encourage them to get into trouble? I'm
    not sure on that one point. None the less. We will always be a
    minority in the fandom. The whippersnappers will have to just learn to 
    go around us old farts.

    His Most Royally old and decrepit gray muzzled Highass, Donkey

    ps Since I am a donkey and I have always been gray. Does that mean
    that I can make up for it by acting like a colt all the time with out 
    getting into trouble for my antics?

    On 7/28/07, Chaka Wolf <chakawolf at hotmail.com> wrote:
    > I am unsubscribing from the list.  This chapter in my life, if not over, has 
    > at least had the door closed rather firmly.
    >
    > Chaka
    >
    > _________________________________________________________________
    >
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From marcwolf at marcwolf.org  Sat Jul 28 23:52:37 2007
From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (David Boccabella)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:52:37 +1000
Subject: FL: Need Comments!!!
In-Reply-To: <fd39d8000707281806h5ab8deb7rf900ca8224a1238@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOICEKJELAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>

Hi Alan

Very good ideas to get an accurate impression  for the size of your foot.

Not sure what you are using to fill the impression. I have experimented with
Bostik Black Goldsil which is a stretchable very strong silicone filler. I
can water it doen with white spirits for painting.  Having used it in my
hand paw pads I found ti very strong and resiliant.

When I made Marc's new hand paws I use a sheet of plastic , traced my hand,
and then proceeded to scupt paw pads onto it with clay. Then I too a plaster
cast to get the negative and use the Bostic to make the pads.  Wnded up
looking ans working very well.

2 things to watch. Make sure the filler you use is flexible as the foot will
need to flex and move, and also it is hard wearing so you dont have to
rplace or repare every few wearings.

Another things to think about is maybe a piece of thick leather on top
between the soul and your foot to prevent accidents with drawing pins and
other sharp nasty objects.

As said - its a great idea and keep experimenting.

Tale Care

Dave a.k.a. Marcwolf



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From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
[mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of VDragOnEyen09
VDragOnEyen09
Sent: Sunday, 29 July 2007 11:07
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Subject: FL: Need Comments!!!


  Hi there my furry friends!

  I need some feedback from all of you, I need to know what you think about
a method I'm using. It's from my own invention, I don't know if this method
will work or not.  And I don't know if someone has already done this kind of
thing. It's a way to create lower foot paw. This is the sole I want to use.
I think if you take a look to the following images maybe you will get the
idea.


http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e189/vdragoneyen09/?action=view&current=St
ep01.jpg

http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e189/vdragoneyen09/?action=view&current=St
ep02.jpg

http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e189/vdragoneyen09/?action=view&current=St
ep03.jpg

http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e189/vdragoneyen09/?action=view&current=St
ep04.jpg

http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e189/vdragoneyen09/?action=view&current=St
ep05.jpg

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  DragonEyE Studios
  v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com
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From grey_llama at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 29 00:18:24 2007
From: grey_llama at yahoo.com (Sean Rook)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:18:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Good Bye
In-Reply-To: <mailman.232.1185671315.14247.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <508298.45643.qm@web57613.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Well, there's moments of change in everyone's life and
sometimes we go for them and other times we let them
pass us by while holding onto things that are more
memories than an actual part of who we are.  

He needs a break from furry, the drama, the
childishness, or whatever from the fandom or specific
relationships then he should take it.  The door is
always open to return, as much as people deride those
who announce they'll be leaving and then later return
- nobody denies them a place in furry when they
return.  I think it's more about your personal
connection with anthros moreso than with the fandom;
you define what it means to you, the fandom is more
about interacting and being a part of the group mold
of furry.  Leaving the fandom is different from saying
furry no longer plays a part in your life.

So, although I don't know you - take care of yourself
Chaka, or anyone else who has left or may leave furry.
 It can be very easy to forget what brought you into
the fold, or the magic it once held for you, everyone
feels the pulling down that the day to day crap and
petty nonsense as it chips away at what makes it
special and fun.  It's sad but you have to do what's
best for yourself.

-Freaky Lynx


       
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From wallyfox98 at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 29 16:06:13 2007
From: wallyfox98 at hotmail.com (Wally_Wabbit/Stephen H./Wallyfox)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:06:13 -0400
Subject: FL: Good Bye
In-Reply-To: <20070728193102.GA37003@foxpup.forest.thefoxden.com>
Message-ID: <BAY121-F21435039637B67B2B5171FD0ED0@phx.gbl>

I can understand what its like to start growing old in furry.  I'll be 29 in 
October.

I found furry 9 years ago and things have grown/changed a lot.  Most folks 
finding furry these days are younger and don't share all the same interests 
with me anymore.

Despite the changes I still have many friends and still manage to have fun.  
You will hit "social slumps" in furry at times where you feel left out at an 
event beacuse you are older than the rest of the group.

Don't let little things get you down.  Remember there are always folks older 
than you around!!

snuggles

Wally_Wabbit

ICQ=86653793
Wally_Wabbit on Furrymuck and Tapestries
Wally_Wabbit on IRC/Yiffnet/Anthrochat
wallyfox2001 on yahoo messenger
http://www.livejournal.com/users/wally_wabbit/

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From superhedgie at googlemail.com  Mon Jul 30 01:45:04 2007
From: superhedgie at googlemail.com (Super BH)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 06:45:04 +0100
Subject: FL: Good Bye
References: <BAY121-F21435039637B67B2B5171FD0ED0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000401c7d26c$c7ccfef0$6700000a@NoobSaibot>

I'm sure most furs do share the same 'never growing up' tendancies. I know I
do. I'm nearly 30, but I still haven't outgrown my childhood. In fact, due
to what happened to me when I was younger, I'm pretty much making up for my
lost childhood , and I'm enjoying it!!

Being an adult child is more fun, because as well as doing all the things
you love doing, you also have the money to do it!!

Hedgie


From fox at flyingfox.biz  Mon Jul 30 12:10:12 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:10:12 -0400
Subject: FL: Good Bye
In-Reply-To: <000401c7d26c$c7ccfef0$6700000a@NoobSaibot>
References: <BAY121-F21435039637B67B2B5171FD0ED0@phx.gbl>
	<000401c7d26c$c7ccfef0$6700000a@NoobSaibot>
Message-ID: <F80E96C3-543F-48B6-AECC-1E2F7DB1D143@flyingfox.biz>

I say Amen to that!

I've been furry *all* of my life -drawing animal character pictures  
since before my memory and having found the fandom about 14 years ago  
now, I'm certainly in for life ;)
I've had my ups and downs, disappointments, rejections, I've been  
burned before -but I'm still furry and always will be.  We really are  
like on big crazy family though -sometimes you'll have a bad day but  
we can always hug and make up =)

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



On Jul 30, 2007, at 1:45 AM, Super BH wrote:

I'm sure most furs do share the same 'never growing up' tendancies. I  
know I
do. I'm nearly 30, but I still haven't outgrown my childhood. In  
fact, due
to what happened to me when I was younger, I'm pretty much making up  
for my
lost childhood , and I'm enjoying it!!

Being an adult child is more fun, because as well as doing all the  
things
you love doing, you also have the money to do it!!

Hedgie

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From rj_fox at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 30 15:25:35 2007
From: rj_fox at hotmail.com (Ryan A.K.A  RJ Fox Michaelis)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:25:35 -0700
Subject: FL: Good Bye
Message-ID: <BAY119-W82FC54F4712190DB82E16F9EE0@phx.gbl>


i here that i my self hav bin a furry for all my life and will say one i to found the furfandom around 14 years a go 


From: fox at flyingfox.bizDate: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:10:12 -0400To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: Good ByeI say Amen to that! 

I've been furry *all* of my life -drawing animal character pictures since before my memory and having found the fandom about 14 years ago now, I'm certainly in for life ;)
I've had my ups and downs, disappointments, rejections, I've been burned before -but I'm still furry and always will be.  We really are like on big crazy family though -sometimes you'll have a bad day but we can always hug and make up =) 

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz


On Jul 30, 2007, at 1:45 AM, Super BH wrote:
I'm sure most furs do share the same 'never growing up' tendancies. I know I
do. I'm nearly 30, but I still haven't outgrown my childhood. In fact, due
to what happened to me when I was younger, I'm pretty much making up for my
lost childhood , and I'm enjoying it!!

Being an adult child is more fun, because as well as doing all the things
you love doing, you also have the money to do it!!

Hedgie

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From hyenafur at gmail.com  Mon Jul 30 19:07:49 2007
From: hyenafur at gmail.com (Laphin Hyena)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:07:49 -0400
Subject: FL: 2007 ~ Alex The Lion Pics
Message-ID: <beded4ed0707301607y7ebd71cndec3b54638381673@mail.gmail.com>

I posted some pics about a year and half back.  And they were kinda
low-res..  So, thanks to furrtek for taking pictures, I have some new pics
of Alex The Lion from when I was performing him about two weeks ago.

Enjoy!!

http://www.geocities.com/hyenafur1402/AlexTheLion01.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/hyenafur1402/AlexTheLion02.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/hyenafur1402/AlexTheLion03.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/hyenafur1402/AlexTheLion04.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/hyenafur1402/AlexTheLion05.jpg


Taken at:  Universal Studios.  Orlando, FL


-Laphin Hyena
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From daspony at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 30 19:10:38 2007
From: daspony at hotmail.com (Lisa Smith)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:10:38 -0400
Subject: FL: Fursuit auctions! Help a pony out?
Message-ID: <BAY113-W11CE8B5BD676AA4246225DB1EE0@phx.gbl>


Hey guys, just plugging my auctions because it's that time
again, my car insurance is due! XD Things have been rather hectic
around here and due to pets, trying to feed ourselves, and bills, I'm
short on my car insurance.

SO! Here's my auctions:



Purple dragon partial suit
http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auctio.....item=232332393
I will take payments on this one, as long as the minimum of the first
payment is $100. ^_^ If you either choose not to do payments or you get
your payments in fast enough, I know there are a couple furcons coming
up that I may be able to have this shipped out before? Just let me know
the date of whichever one you're going to is and I'll ship it out
pronto!

Partial suit commission
http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auctio.....item=232333426
There are pictures of the suits I've done thus far on the auction there, as well as more pics at: http://www.freewebs.com/niikufursuits
I can take payments on this one as long as the minimum is $100 plus
whatever the cost of materials ends up being. This will not be done
before the most upcoming furcons, but I will have it done this year, in
the next few months. Here's my queue:

Tauren
Goat
Raccoon/skunk
You!

If you have any questions about anything here, feel free to email me at DasPony at hotmail.com or comment here!
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Mon Jul 30 20:03:39 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:03:39 -0700
Subject: FL: Good Bye
In-Reply-To: <BAY119-W82FC54F4712190DB82E16F9EE0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY119-W82FC54F4712190DB82E16F9EE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0707301703p43b4d167j39eb48389ecc58cf@mail.gmail.com>

Ya that's right, just rub it in that you found furry 10 years before I did!!!!!
At least I am not a fox! =b

His Most Royally not a fox Highass, Donkey

On 7/30/07, Ryan A.K.A  RJ Fox Michaelis <rj_fox at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  i here that i my self hav bin a furry for all my life and will say one i to
> found the furfandom around 14 years a go
>
>
>  ________________________________
>  From: fox at flyingfox.biz
> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:10:12 -0400
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: Good Bye
>
>
> I say Amen to that!
>
>
> I've been furry *all* of my life -drawing animal character pictures since
> before my memory and having found the fandom about 14 years ago now, I'm
> certainly in for life ;)
> I've had my ups and downs, disappointments, rejections, I've been burned
> before -but I'm still furry and always will be.  We really are like on big
> crazy family though -sometimes you'll have a bad day but we can always hug
> and make up =)
>
>
> Scape
>
>
>
>
>
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> www.flyingfox.biz
>

From donkeyears at gmail.com  Mon Jul 30 20:12:45 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:12:45 -0700
Subject: FL: Fursuit auctions! Help a pony out?
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-W11CE8B5BD676AA4246225DB1EE0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY113-W11CE8B5BD676AA4246225DB1EE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0707301712l1b8aa1d3i6acbd53f280d884a@mail.gmail.com>

I am looking to make me a new donkey tail. I like the tip of your
dragon tail. What is it made of and how did you get it to stay in the
fur?

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 7/30/07, Lisa Smith <daspony at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Hey guys, just plugging my auctions because it's that time again, my car
> insurance is due! XD Things have been rather hectic around here and due to
> pets, trying to feed ourselves, and bills, I'm short on my car insurance.
>
>  SO! Here's my auctions:
>
>
>
>  Purple dragon partial suit
>  http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auctio.....item=232332393
>  I will take payments on this one, as long as the minimum of the first
> payment is $100. ^_^ If you either choose not to do payments or you get your
> payments in fast enough, I know there are a couple furcons coming up that I
> may be able to have this shipped out before? Just let me know the date of
> whichever one you're going to is and I'll ship it out pronto!
>
>  Partial suit commission
>  http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auctio.....item=232333426
>  There are pictures of the suits I've done thus far on the auction there, as
> well as more pics at: http://www.freewebs.com/niikufursuits
>  I can take payments on this one as long as the minimum is $100 plus
> whatever the cost of materials ends up being. This will not be done before
> the most upcoming furcons, but I will have it done this year, in the next
> few months. Here's my queue:
>
>  Tauren
>  Goat
>  Raccoon/skunk
>  You!
>
>  If you have any questions about anything here, feel free to email me at
> DasPony at hotmail.com or comment here!
> ________________________________
> Don't get caught with egg on your face.    Play Chicktionary!
> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
> Fursuit Mail list.
> To edit your subscription, visit:
> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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>

From fox at flyingfox.biz  Mon Jul 30 20:47:09 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (John Fox Kinsman)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:47:09 -0400
Subject: FL: Good Bye
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0707301703p43b4d167j39eb48389ecc58cf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY119-W82FC54F4712190DB82E16F9EE0@phx.gbl>
	<d23d76ca0707301703p43b4d167j39eb48389ecc58cf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CFEC28E8-DF49-4A07-B241-E28431EB5ED5@flyingfox.biz>

Ah, this is but to illustrate the many years of drama and suffering  
lol -though I'm guilty of being absent from the fandom for a number  
of years also -doh

I hope I can make up for my previous time as a fox with Scape ;)

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
fox at flyingfox.biz




On Jul 30, 2007, at 8:03 PM, Donkey wrote:

Ya that's right, just rub it in that you found furry 10 years before  
I did!!!!!
At least I am not a fox! =b

His Most Royally not a fox Highass, Donkey

On 7/30/07, Ryan A.K.A  RJ Fox Michaelis <rj_fox at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  i here that i my self hav bin a furry for all my life and will say  
> one i to
> found the furfandom around 14 years a go
>
>
>  ________________________________
>  From: fox at flyingfox.biz
> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:10:12 -0400
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: Good Bye
>
>
> I say Amen to that!
>
>
> I've been furry *all* of my life -drawing animal character pictures  
> since
> before my memory and having found the fandom about 14 years ago  
> now, I'm
> certainly in for life ;)
> I've had my ups and downs, disappointments, rejections, I've been  
> burned
> before -but I'm still furry and always will be.  We really are like  
> on big
> crazy family though -sometimes you'll have a bad day but we can  
> always hug
> and make up =)
>
>
> Scape
>
>
>
>
>
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> www.flyingfox.biz
>
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From daspony at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 30 21:34:05 2007
From: daspony at hotmail.com (Lisa Smith)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:34:05 -0400
Subject: FL: Fursuit auctions! Help a pony out?
Message-ID: <BAY113-W21F5EEB632074E43EC66BDB1EF0@phx.gbl>


It's made of synthetic hair, and I take little pieces at a time, like the size of half your pinky finger, and hot glue the tips together on one end. Keep doing that till you have a sizable mass of hair bits. Then start gluing them together to form a tuft shape, only gluing the ends that already have glue on them together. Stick the gluey end of the tuft into the end of the tail, glue even more, and let set. Shave the tuft into the shape you want and there you go. :3 Time-consuming and tricky, but it's a good way to spend a relaxing afternoon.> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:12:45 -0700> From: donkeyears at gmail.com> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> Subject: Re: FL: Fursuit auctions! Help a pony out?> > I am looking to make me a new donkey tail. I like the tip of your> dragon tail. What is it made of and how did you get it to stay in the> fur?> > His Most Royal Highass, Donkey> > On 7/30/07, Lisa Smith <daspony at hotmail.com> wrote:> >> >  Hey guys, just plugging my auctions because it's that time again, my car> > insurance is due! XD Things have been rather hectic around here and due to> > pets, trying to feed ourselves, and bills, I'm short on my car insurance.> >> >  SO! Here's my auctions:> >> >> >> >  Purple dragon partial suit> >  http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auctio.....item=232332393> >  I will take payments on this one, as long as the minimum of the first> > payment is $100. ^_^ If you either choose not to do payments or you get your> > payments in fast enough, I know there are a couple furcons coming up that I> > may be able to have this shipped out before? Just let me know the date of> > whichever one you're going to is and I'll ship it out pronto!> >> >  Partial suit commission> >  http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auctio.....item=232333426> >  There are pictures of the suits I've done thus far on the auction there, as> > well as more pics at: http://www.freewebs.com/niikufursuits> >  I can take payments on this one as long as the minimum is $100 plus> > whatever the cost of materials ends up being. This will not be done before> > the most upcoming furcons, but I will have it done this year, in the next> > few months. Here's my queue:> >> >  Tauren> >  Goat> >  Raccoon/skunk> >  You!> >> >  If you have any questions about anything here, feel free to email me at> > DasPony at hotmail.com or comment here!> > ________________________________> > Don't get caught with egg on your face.    Play Chicktionary!> > _______________________________________________> > _______________________________________________> > Fursuit Mail list.> > To edit your subscription, visit:> > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list> >> >> _______________________________________________> _______________________________________________> Fursuit Mail list.> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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From daspony at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 30 21:48:28 2007
From: daspony at hotmail.com (Lisa Smith)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:48:28 -0400
Subject: FL: Lowered the price of the dragon suit!
Message-ID: <BAY113-W13644055B7E3E97CB9E14DB1EF0@phx.gbl>


At the advice of some trusted fursuiters, I lowered the price of the dragon partial since I've had it up at auction for so long. The new auction link is here:http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auction/item.pl?item=232333933
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Mon Jul 30 22:01:05 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:01:05 -0700
Subject: FL: Fursuit auctions! Help a pony out?
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-W21F5EEB632074E43EC66BDB1EF0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY113-W21F5EEB632074E43EC66BDB1EF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0707301901k16f95b34kfc88b3b75b7d12d5@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/30/07, Lisa Smith <daspony at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  It's made of synthetic hair, and I take little pieces at a time, like the
> size of half your pinky finger, and hot glue the tips together on one end.
> Keep doing that till you have a sizable mass of hair bits. Then start gluing
> them together to form a tuft shape, only gluing the ends that already have
> glue on them together. Stick the gluey end of the tuft into the end of the
> tail, glue even more, and let set. Shave the tuft into the shape you want
> and there you go. :3 Time-consuming and tricky, but it's a good way to spend
> a relaxing afternoon.
>
Yes that will change a nice relaxing afternoon into a very stressful
afternoon. =b

Did you use a specific kind synthetic hair or just a wig that you found?

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

From daspony at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 30 23:25:17 2007
From: daspony at hotmail.com (Lisa Smith)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:25:17 -0400
Subject: FL: Fursuit auctions! Help a pony out?
Message-ID: <BAY113-W11FCD45C7012360D63A8A1B1EF0@phx.gbl>


Go to a beauty supply store and look for the hair extensions. They are much nicer quality than a wig, if you go for the silky stuff.> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:01:05 -0700> From: donkeyears at gmail.com> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> Subject: Re: FL: Fursuit auctions! Help a pony out?> > On 7/30/07, Lisa Smith <daspony at hotmail.com> wrote:> >> >  It's made of synthetic hair, and I take little pieces at a time, like the> > size of half your pinky finger, and hot glue the tips together on one end.> > Keep doing that till you have a sizable mass of hair bits. Then start gluing> > them together to form a tuft shape, only gluing the ends that already have> > glue on them together. Stick the gluey end of the tuft into the end of the> > tail, glue even more, and let set. Shave the tuft into the shape you want> > and there you go. :3 Time-consuming and tricky, but it's a good way to spend> > a relaxing afternoon.> >> Yes that will change a nice relaxing afternoon into a very stressful> afternoon. =b> > Did you use a specific kind synthetic hair or just a wig that you found?> > His Most Royal Highass, Donkey> _______________________________________________> _______________________________________________> Fursuit Mail list.> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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From antimon at earthlink.net  Tue Jul 31 08:47:21 2007
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 08:47:21 -0400
Subject: FL: Good Bye
References: <577261b40707221055l6e56d8cesbc111ad111f88964@mail.gmail.com><BAY134-F221448A061EC12AD92FB38BDEC0@phx.gbl>
	<20070728193102.GA37003@foxpup.forest.thefoxden.com>
Message-ID: <012201c7d370$f0158ad0$0f01a8c0@bigblue>

scribble, will msot likely evntually make good.....generally

Chaka's goen through periods of disdain, he eventually comes back, least so 
far, and we will welcoem him.. he was one of the first furs I met, and i 
greatly respect the old wolf.

I hope he is still amung us in some capacity

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yappy Sly Fox" <yappyfox at thefoxden.com>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: FL: Good Bye


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>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 11:07:12AM -0500, Chaka Wolf wrote:
>> I am unsubscribing from the list.  This chapter in my life, if not over, 
>> has
>> at least had the door closed rather firmly.
>>
>> Chaka
>>
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From antimon at earthlink.net  Tue Jul 31 08:48:27 2007
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 08:48:27 -0400
Subject: FL: refreshing :3 Re:  Good Bye
References: <b1c118750707281340j7f4015c7r1db10d612231e34e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <013601c7d371$1718e0a0$0f01a8c0@bigblue>

Hey...what do ya know, Donkey isn't always an ass after all :)
We love you Donkey
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Cyan FOX 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 4:40 PM
  Subject: FL: refreshing :3 Re: Good Bye


  refreshing :3

  i love all of you guys, furry is my chosen family: and i love my family!

  hey Donkey, that's the most unique and refreshing way of stating it that i've ever seen, very salient job <3

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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Tue Jul 31 21:02:50 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:02:50 -0700
Subject: FL: refreshing :3 Re: Good Bye
In-Reply-To: <013601c7d371$1718e0a0$0f01a8c0@bigblue>
References: <b1c118750707281340j7f4015c7r1db10d612231e34e@mail.gmail.com>
	<013601c7d371$1718e0a0$0f01a8c0@bigblue>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0707311802u690ba5a1i49b874fc2ebe3562@mail.gmail.com>

HAY!!! Keep it quiet. I have a reputation to live down to!

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 7/31/07, Antimon <antimon at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> Hey...what do ya know, Donkey isn't always an ass after all :)
> We love you Donkey
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cyan FOX
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 4:40 PM
> Subject: FL: refreshing :3 Re: Good Bye
>
> refreshing :3
>
> i love all of you guys, furry is my chosen family: and i love my family!
>
> hey Donkey, that's the most unique and refreshing way of stating it that
> i've ever seen, very salient job <3
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Fursuit Mail list.
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From taliesin at emagichappens.com  Tue Jul 31 15:00:31 2007
From: taliesin at emagichappens.com (Taliesin McLeod)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:00:31 -0400
Subject: FL: *****SPAM***** RE: Fursuit auctions! Help a pony out?
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-W11CE8B5BD676AA4246225DB1EE0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY113-W11CE8B5BD676AA4246225DB1EE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <002101c7d3a5$1542ea80$6401a8c0@alicorn>

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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Fri Aug  3 07:57:53 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 07:57:53 -0400
Subject: FL: Scape is done yay =)
In-Reply-To: <013601c7d371$1718e0a0$0f01a8c0@bigblue>
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Yay -just writing to let anyone know who was interested that Scape  
the Goat is done =)
Finished up last night.  Will get photos this weekend and will upload  
to the fursuit database.

*happydance*

Scape


Fox =^_^=
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From schneidsky at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  3 17:28:32 2007
From: schneidsky at yahoo.com (Adam Schneider)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 14:28:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Scape is done yay =)
In-Reply-To: <27623964-1520-43BD-8EE2-D1288BE76532@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <601200.6520.qm@web54006.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

How many man hours do you think you put into him?

Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:  Yay -just writing to let anyone know who was interested that Scape the Goat is done =)  Finished up last night.  Will get photos this weekend and will upload to the fursuit database.
  

  *happydance*
  

  Scape
  
  

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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Fri Aug  3 20:19:43 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 17:19:43 -0700
Subject: FL: Scape is done yay =)
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I better question is how meny fox hours where put into him. =b

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 8/3/07, Adam Schneider <schneidsky at yahoo.com> wrote:
> How many man hours do you think you put into him?
>
>
> Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
> Yay -just writing to let anyone know who was interested that Scape the Goat
> is done =)
> Finished up last night.  Will get photos this weekend and will upload to the
> fursuit database.
>
>
> *happydance*
>
>
> Scape
>
>
>
>
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> www.flyingfox.biz
>
>
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Sun Aug  5 01:04:11 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (John Fox Kinsman)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 01:04:11 -0400
Subject: FL: Scape photos in the database =)
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0708031719h6e849d7dq2264eaf71c1f77aa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <27623964-1520-43BD-8EE2-D1288BE76532@flyingfox.biz>
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Message-ID: <1871BAC1-8DDE-4DB6-B63E-A927470CE725@flyingfox.biz>

Woot!

Scape is now officially in the database!  http://fur-suit.org/ 
index.php?c=viewsuit&id=522
His beard is currently King Tut style -I have a hair stylist friend  
who will shape it to a nice wisp for me soon lol!  I'll try and get  
better photos too since I have access to a 10megepixel cannon eos in  
the next few weeks ;)
Thanks everyone for their help and support -It's been a journey for  
me -and it ain't over yet, as I'm sure y'all know from experience lol.
I can't wait to party down with ya'll at some cons now!

*hugs*

Scape



Fox =^_^=
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From sardognsca at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  5 11:21:15 2007
From: sardognsca at yahoo.com (Sardog)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 08:21:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Scape photos in the database =)
In-Reply-To: <1871BAC1-8DDE-4DB6-B63E-A927470CE725@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <981425.49174.qm@web51612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I don't get impressed easily by suits...

But I'm seriously impressed by this guy!

Where did you find the grey furs?  I've been trying to
do an old english sheep dog for a while, and, could
never find the fur.

Thanks1

--- John Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:

> Woot!
> 
> Scape is now officially in the database! 
> http://fur-suit.org/ 
> index.php?c=viewsuit&id=522
> His beard is currently King Tut style -I have a hair
> stylist friend  
> who will shape it to a nice wisp for me soon lol! 
> I'll try and get  
> better photos too since I have access to a
> 10megepixel cannon eos in  
> the next few weeks ;)
> Thanks everyone for their help and support -It's
> been a journey for  
> me -and it ain't over yet, as I'm sure y'all know
> from experience lol.
> I can't wait to party down with ya'll at some cons
> now!
> 
> *hugs*
> 
> Scape
> 
> 
> 
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> fox at flyingfox.biz
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From santafox at comcast.net  Sun Aug  5 11:38:09 2007
From: santafox at comcast.net (Santa Fox)
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 15:38:09 +0000
Subject: FL: Scape photos in the database =)
Message-ID: <080520071538.17224.46B5EEE10001834C0000434822073007939801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: John Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz>
> Woot!
> 
> Scape is now officially in the database!  http://fur-suit.org/ 
> index.php?c=viewsuit&id=522

Let me just be one of the first to say, "Wow!"  IMHO, that is *really* good for your very first suit.  With most people's first built suits that I see posted, I can usually find all kinds of visible problems, many of which are perfectly normal for any person's first attempt at costume building.  But, at least from just looking at the pictures, your's looks 100% professional to me, and far better than either of my first two original costumes way back when.

Kudos, and I can hardly wait for Billy the Goat to meat Scape the Goat.  If we can get Horse's Goat to bring out his suit and get Sophie to FWA as well, maybe we could get a picture of a herd of goats ;-)

Cheers,
Santa Fox

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From antimon at earthlink.net  Sun Aug  5 14:06:04 2007
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 14:06:04 -0400
Subject: FL: Scape photos in the database =)
References: <27623964-1520-43BD-8EE2-D1288BE76532@flyingfox.biz><601200.6520.qm@web54006.mail.re2.yahoo.com><d23d76ca0708031719h6e849d7dq2264eaf71c1f77aa@mail.gmail.com>
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dang dude that turned out badass I'm shocked, I wasn't expectign anythign quite so, profesional and complete looking, damn good work, can't wait to se you dancing away
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Fox Kinsman 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 1:04 AM
  Subject: FL: Scape photos in the database =)


  Woot!


  Scape is now officially in the database!  http://fur-suit.org/index.php?c=viewsuit&id=522
  His beard is currently King Tut style -I have a hair stylist friend who will shape it to a nice wisp for me soon lol!  I'll try and get better photos too since I have access to a 10megepixel cannon eos in the next few weeks ;)
  Thanks everyone for their help and support -It's been a journey for me -and it ain't over yet, as I'm sure y'all know from experience lol.
  I can't wait to party down with ya'll at some cons now!


  *hugs*


  Scape






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From dia at critter.net  Sun Aug  5 17:37:45 2007
From: dia at critter.net (dia at critter.net)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 16:37:45 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: FL: Scape photos in the database =)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.7.1186329609.13058.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
References: <mailman.7.1186329609.13058.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <2191.67.161.42.245.1186349865.squirrel@secure.critter.net>

Please show this REALLY awesome goat costume on Live Journal Fursuit
community. I am sure people will love to see it!

I love that you used SO many different types of fur on him.  VERY
interesting looking! I hope to see him in person at a con! (going to MFF
or FC?)

BTW how are the horns made?
-J (moderator of LJ fursuit)


> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 01:04:11 -0400
> From: John Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz>
> Subject: FL: Scape photos in the database =)

> Woot!
>
>
> Scape is now officially in the database!  http://fur-suit.org/
> index.php?c=viewsuit&id=522 His beard is currently King Tut style -I have a
> hair stylist friend who will shape it to a nice wisp for me soon lol!
> I'll try and get
> better photos too since I have access to a 10megepixel cannon eos in the
> next few weeks ;) Thanks everyone for their help and support -It's been a
> journey for me -and it ain't over yet, as I'm sure y'all know from
> experience lol. I can't wait to party down with ya'll at some cons now!
>
>
> *hugs*

> Scape



From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sun Aug  5 17:43:46 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 14:43:46 -0700
Subject: FL: Looking for some fursuiters for skit for FC.
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0708051443i42fd6210w2ef227b6b3d0f031@mail.gmail.com>

I have an idea for a skit for FC. What I am looking for is 3
fursuiters. One that can fake playing a guitar. and two others. Farm
animals would work best.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

From catofmount at hughes.net  Sun Aug  5 21:31:27 2007
From: catofmount at hughes.net (Mr Cougar)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 21:31:27 -0400
Subject: FL: Scape photos in the database =)
References: <27623964-1520-43BD-8EE2-D1288BE76532@flyingfox.biz><601200.6520.qm@web54006.mail.re2.yahoo.com><d23d76ca0708031719h6e849d7dq2264eaf71c1f77aa@mail.gmail.com>
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Thats some excellent work

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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Sun Aug  5 21:36:50 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (John Fox Kinsman)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 21:36:50 -0400
Subject: FL: Scape photos in the database =)
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Message-ID: <6B9DFD99-7FD7-4B01-87DF-BD8E073DC477@flyingfox.biz>

Wow I had a long day.  It was nice to come home -rub my eyes and yup,  
Scape is still there lol!

Thanks y'all for the comments!
Adam:  man I don't know how many hours - I really wish i could have  
stuck with counting.  I lost track around 80 back a few months ago lol
Sardog:  I got the whites, tans on the face and the tipped gray at  
Distinctive.  The Dark gray back, tan tummy and the solid gray came  
from 'imstuffedfur'.  The rest were pieces found at stores that I  
stopped at in my travels.
Santa Fox:  Definitely have some things to fix already lol!  got  
multiple snaps and whatnot that have broken already -yay part of the  
journey.  Oh man I can not Wait to meet Billy and Sophie and more and  
get a herd goin' lol! wicked ;)
Antimon:  maaaaan I can't wait to dance bro!
J:  Cool man -I'll head over to LJ =).  Scape's Debut will be FWA -I  
know it's a long way off (I'm counting the days lol) my plans for MFM  
fell through =(  As for the horns -they really are a complex  
combination of stuff -I'll hafta show ya if we can meet up at a con  
(part secret recipe too;)

*hugs*

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
fox at flyingfox.biz




On Aug 5, 2007, at 11:38 AM, Santa Fox wrote:

  -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: John Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz>
> Woot!
>
> Scape is now officially in the database!  http://fur-suit.org/
> index.php?c=viewsuit&id=522

Let me just be one of the first to say, "Wow!"  IMHO, that is  
*really* good for your very first suit.  With most people's first  
built suits that I see posted, I can usually find all kinds of  
visible problems, many of which are perfectly normal for any person's  
first attempt at costume building.  But, at least from just looking  
at the pictures, your's looks 100% professional to me, and far better  
than either of my first two original costumes way back when.

Kudos, and I can hardly wait for Billy the Goat to meat Scape the  
Goat.  If we can get Horse's Goat to bring out his suit and get  
Sophie to FWA as well, maybe we could get a picture of a herd of  
goats ;-)

Cheers,
Santa Fox

--
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From: John Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz>
Date: August 5, 2007 1:04:59 AM EDT
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Subject: FL: Scape photos in the database =)


Woot!

Scape is now officially in the database!  http://fur-suit.org/ 
index.php?c=viewsuit&id=522
His beard is currently King Tut style -I have a hair stylist friend  
who will shape it to a nice wisp for me soon lol!  I'll try and get  
better photos too since I have access to a 10megepixel cannon eos in  
the next few weeks ;)
Thanks everyone for their help and support -It's been a journey for  
me -and it ain't over yet, as I'm sure y'all know from experience lol.
I can't wait to party down with ya'll at some cons now!

*hugs*

Scape



Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
fox at flyingfox.biz





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From superhedgie at googlemail.com  Mon Aug  6 01:42:31 2007
From: superhedgie at googlemail.com (Super BH)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 06:42:31 +0100
Subject: FL: Looking for some fursuiters for skit for FC.
References: <d23d76ca0708051443i42fd6210w2ef227b6b3d0f031@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000901c7d7ec$95629cb0$6700000a@NoobSaibot>

GAH!! Pity I'm not gonna be there, I'm the freakin' KING of Air Guitar!!

Hedgie




> I have an idea for a skit for FC. What I am looking for is 3
> fursuiters. One that can fake playing a guitar. and two others. Farm
> animals would work best.
>
> His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
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From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Mon Aug  6 03:31:59 2007
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 07:31:59 +0000
Subject: FL: Looking for some fursuiters for skit for FC.
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0708051443i42fd6210w2ef227b6b3d0f031@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY101-F1240E1598C804A1AE9BFB0A9E50@phx.gbl>


I've done that for my school broadcasting class... I could help... but I'm 
still not sure if I'll be there... just depends on my PTO, and 
transportation... but rooming is good as far as I know.

>From: Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com>
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>Subject: FL: Looking for some fursuiters for skit for FC.
>Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 14:43:46 -0700
>
>I have an idea for a skit for FC. What I am looking for is 3
>fursuiters. One that can fake playing a guitar. and two others. Farm
>animals would work best.
>
>His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
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From animecat at hotmail.com  Mon Aug  6 10:40:47 2007
From: animecat at hotmail.com (Anime Cat)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 10:40:47 -0400
Subject: FL: Scape photos in the database =)
Message-ID: <BAY139-W1157642DABD140BD6FFB69D7E50@phx.gbl>


Oh wow! Fox, that is AMAZING! Such a cute goat! I can't wait to give him a hug at FWA!
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Central Arkansas Fur Association event coordinatorCreator and founder of the Candy Skunk Corps
 


From: fox at flyingfox.bizDate: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 01:04:11 -0400To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: FL: Scape photos in the database =)Woot! 

Scape is now officially in the database!  http://fur-suit.org/index.php?c=viewsuit&id=522
His beard is currently King Tut style -I have a hair stylist friend who will shape it to a nice wisp for me soon lol!  I'll try and get better photos too since I have access to a 10megepixel cannon eos in the next few weeks ;)
Thanks everyone for their help and support -It's been a journey for me -and it ain't over yet, as I'm sure y'all know from experience lol.
I can't wait to party down with ya'll at some cons now!

*hugs*

Scape



Fox =^_^=
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Mon Aug  6 14:08:29 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 14:08:29 -0400
Subject: FL: Got a Debut/ Debate question...
In-Reply-To: <BAY139-W1157642DABD140BD6FFB69D7E50@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY139-W1157642DABD140BD6FFB69D7E50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5A32A571-2326-4546-B4C6-6A86652E0DB5@flyingfox.biz>

Hello!  I posted this to LJ Fursuit list just now but wondered what  
y'all think also...

I haven't ever debuted anything before and wondered what the general  
consensus is of the "furry dictionary" definition of Debut. Not only  
can I not make it to any conventions until FWA08 because of money and  
time off but I also promised my best furfriend that Scape's debute  
would be February.
Now -I've had some friends say that I should take Scape for a spin at  
the bowling alley to test him out -that it would not be considered a  
debut as long as I didn't announce it and no one took pics. Although  
this is pretty tempting, I want to do this right so wondered your  
thoughts on this.

What do y'all consider "Debut" and what can I do as far as "testing"?

Scape

Fox =^_^=
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Mon Aug  6 14:28:46 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 11:28:46 -0700
Subject: FL: Got a Debut/ Debate question...
In-Reply-To: <5A32A571-2326-4546-B4C6-6A86652E0DB5@flyingfox.biz>
References: <BAY139-W1157642DABD140BD6FFB69D7E50@phx.gbl>
	<5A32A571-2326-4546-B4C6-6A86652E0DB5@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0708061128m2cf48b40kc7012a39b2b8be@mail.gmail.com>

Your a little late for waiting for a debut. You have already done it.
Remimber the picks that you posted here? Furs have already seen your
fursuit.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 8/6/07, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
>
> Hello!  I posted this to LJ Fursuit list just now but wondered what y'all
> think also...
>
> I haven't ever debuted anything before and wondered what the general
> consensus is of the "furry dictionary" definition of Debut. Not only can I
> not make it to any conventions until FWA08 because of money and time off but
> I also promised my best furfriend that Scape's debute would be February.
> Now -I've had some friends say that I should take Scape for a spin at the
> bowling alley to test him out -that it would not be considered a debut as
> long as I didn't announce it and no one took pics. Although this is pretty
> tempting, I want to do this right so wondered your thoughts on this.
>
> What do y'all consider "Debut" and what can I do as far as "testing"?
>
> Scape
>
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From dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net  Mon Aug  6 15:08:00 2007
From: dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net (dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 12:08:00 -0700
Subject: FL: Work in progress - tiger
Message-ID: <10691863.1186427308557.JavaMail.teamon@b304.teamon.com>

http://chez-vrolet.net/~dennisthetiger/furry/fursuits/tiger/

I now have some evidence of existence! =^-^=

-Dennis
(a tiger)


From wildfox34 at gmail.com  Mon Aug  6 15:45:10 2007
From: wildfox34 at gmail.com (Mike Johnson)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 15:45:10 -0400
Subject: FL: Got a Debut/ Debate question...
In-Reply-To: <5A32A571-2326-4546-B4C6-6A86652E0DB5@flyingfox.biz>
References: <BAY139-W1157642DABD140BD6FFB69D7E50@phx.gbl>
	<5A32A571-2326-4546-B4C6-6A86652E0DB5@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <68be40570708061245l780e3842s7ed92e6eec3f5186@mail.gmail.com>

I'd say a proper debut for any new suit is to go to a local furmeet.
Whether it's just a gathering around the TV to watch a movie, or going
out to the bowling alley or mini-golf course (get early permission
first!).  Usually, when I got a new suit... I took it to a nearby
bowling furmeet and debut it there among many furs that know me well.
Personally, I like doing that than waiting until the first con I get
to after getting a new suit to debut it.  That way if any flaws happen
to show somewhere (not that I think you have any, you did an excellent
job!), you can find out about them among a small crowd of furs instead
of having it happen while hundreds of furs watch. :)

Wildfox
http://www.chameleon.net/~wildfox/index.htm

On 8/6/07, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
>
> Hello!  I posted this to LJ Fursuit list just now but wondered what y'all
> think also...
>
> I haven't ever debuted anything before and wondered what the general
> consensus is of the "furry dictionary" definition of Debut. Not only can I
> not make it to any conventions until FWA08 because of money and time off but
> I also promised my best furfriend that Scape's debute would be February.
> Now -I've had some friends say that I should take Scape for a spin at the
> bowling alley to test him out -that it would not be considered a debut as
> long as I didn't announce it and no one took pics. Although this is pretty
> tempting, I want to do this right so wondered your thoughts on this.
>
> What do y'all consider "Debut" and what can I do as far as "testing"?
> Scape
>
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> www.flyingfox.biz
>
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Mon Aug  6 18:50:59 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (John Fox Kinsman)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 18:50:59 -0400
Subject: FL: Got a Debut/ Debate question...
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0708061128m2cf48b40kc7012a39b2b8be@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY139-W1157642DABD140BD6FFB69D7E50@phx.gbl>
	<5A32A571-2326-4546-B4C6-6A86652E0DB5@flyingfox.biz>
	<d23d76ca0708061128m2cf48b40kc7012a39b2b8be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4719A943-0924-43B5-AA88-5D853155F68E@flyingfox.biz>

LOL!  yeah I guess everyone does know about it now ;)
I was thinking in terms of "live public appearance" though -and that  
will still have to be FWA08.  There's no way I can show off Scape  
except photos until then.  with the exception of the possible bowling  
event in question.  Scape has not gone past the door of my house (but  
once, before he was finished, where his bodysuit never left the box)
I'm thinking y'all are right about testing him out though -it would  
be horrible to have stuff fall apart in the middle of a con lol!
Thanks so much for all the help =)

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
fox at flyingfox.biz




On Aug 6, 2007, at 2:28 PM, Donkey wrote:

Your a little late for waiting for a debut. You have already done it.  
Remimber the picks that you posted here? Furs have already seen your  
fursuit.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 8/6/07, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
Hello!  I posted this to LJ Fursuit list just now but wondered what  
y'all think also...

I haven't ever debuted anything before and wondered what the general  
consensus is of the "furry dictionary" definition of Debut. Not only  
can I not make it to any conventions until FWA08 because of money and  
time off but I also promised my best furfriend that Scape's debute  
would be February.
Now -I've had some friends say that I should take Scape for a spin at  
the bowling alley to test him out -that it would not be considered a  
debut as long as I didn't announce it and no one took pics. Although  
this is pretty tempting, I want to do this right so wondered your  
thoughts on this.

What do y'all consider "Debut" and what can I do as far as "testing"?

Scape

Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz





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From blueflyer18 at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  6 19:42:05 2007
From: blueflyer18 at yahoo.com (May Marshall)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:42:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Two Piece Fursuit body
Message-ID: <134198.17329.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hey all! Me again!

I have been wandering around all over the place, looking at body suits of some amazing fursuits out there and wondering how the heck i'm gonna be able to create something decent!!

Well, i've more then half way dont with my bodysuit, but i got to thinking about what i could do with the spare fur i have laying around besides sell it.

Have there been any really well constructed two piece body suits out there? Like, using a shirt and then some pants for the style. I would really appreciate the input if this is a good idea (like if i wanted to have the "topless" look but wear regular pants so as not to get too hot.) 

Does this two piece method actually look good, or just lazy and sloppy?

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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Mon Aug  6 20:47:54 2007
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 20:47:54 -0400
Subject: FL: Got a Debut/ Debate question...
In-Reply-To: <4719A943-0924-43B5-AA88-5D853155F68E@flyingfox.biz>
References: <BAY139-W1157642DABD140BD6FFB69D7E50@phx.gbl>
	<5A32A571-2326-4546-B4C6-6A86652E0DB5@flyingfox.biz>
	<d23d76ca0708061128m2cf48b40kc7012a39b2b8be@mail.gmail.com>
	<4719A943-0924-43B5-AA88-5D853155F68E@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <577261b40708061747m4d175174uf60a79ef9ac262b@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, that would be bad.  I debuted my suit at morphicon 06.  There
weren't any pics of the whole suit 'til the con cause I didn't finish
it until about 3 days before the con.  I definately loved making the
full debut at a con.  Only one person saw it done before the con.  I
didn't test the suit out per say, and I guess I got lucky, nothing
major happened. =^_^=

-Foxwolf 9-Tails

From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Mon Aug  6 20:50:02 2007
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 20:50:02 -0400
Subject: FL: Two Piece Fursuit body
In-Reply-To: <134198.17329.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <134198.17329.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <577261b40708061750v6470c921o8eef3ff21bb5c479@mail.gmail.com>

So far as I've seen, they are all one piece body suits.  That way you
don't have to worry about your real stomach showing. =^_^=

-Foxwolf 9-Tails

From antimon at earthlink.net  Mon Aug  6 21:04:24 2007
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 21:04:24 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: FL: Two Piece Fursuit body
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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Tue Aug  7 00:58:58 2007
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 00:58:58 -0400
Subject: FL: Two Piece Fursuit body
In-Reply-To: <29462291.1186448665016.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <29462291.1186448665016.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <577261b40708062158g5659cb37mf2c925c26204acd6@mail.gmail.com>

Well, yeah, you have a good point, I didn't realize katty's one suit
was like that, do you know where pics of that could be found?
Somewhere on her site?

From marcwolf at marcwolf.org  Tue Aug  7 04:39:03 2007
From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (David Boccabella)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 18:39:03 +1000
Subject: FL: Two Piece Fursuit body
In-Reply-To: <577261b40708062158g5659cb37mf2c925c26204acd6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIMECKEMAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>

Marcwolf is a 2 piece body suit.

Have a look at the construction at http://marcwolf.org

Enjoy
Dave

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From sardognsca at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  7 08:10:27 2007
From: sardognsca at yahoo.com (Sardog)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 05:10:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Got a Debut/ Debate question...
In-Reply-To: <4719A943-0924-43B5-AA88-5D853155F68E@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <755115.18593.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

As far as i'm concerned... You're suit was built to be
worn... wearing it at events is more important than
the reactions of one or two people.

I'm sure these same people would understand.

It would just seem greedy to me if these peope don't
understand...

Or am I on the wrong track?


--- John Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:

> LOL!  yeah I guess everyone does know about it now
> ;)
> I was thinking in terms of "live public appearance"
> though -and that  
> will still have to be FWA08.  There's no way I can
> show off Scape  
> except photos until then.  with the exception of the
> possible bowling  
> event in question.  Scape has not gone past the door
> of my house (but  
> once, before he was finished, where his bodysuit
> never left the box)
> I'm thinking y'all are right about testing him out
> though -it would  
> be horrible to have stuff fall apart in the middle
> of a con lol!
> Thanks so much for all the help =)
> 
> Scape
> 
> 
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> fox at flyingfox.biz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 6, 2007, at 2:28 PM, Donkey wrote:
> 
> Your a little late for waiting for a debut. You have
> already done it.  
> Remimber the picks that you posted here? Furs have
> already seen your  
> fursuit.
> 
> His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
> 
> On 8/6/07, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
> Hello!  I posted this to LJ Fursuit list just now
> but wondered what  
> y'all think also...
> 
> I haven't ever debuted anything before and wondered
> what the general  
> consensus is of the "furry dictionary" definition of
> Debut. Not only  
> can I not make it to any conventions until FWA08
> because of money and  
> time off but I also promised my best furfriend that
> Scape's debute  
> would be February.
> Now -I've had some friends say that I should take
> Scape for a spin at  
> the bowling alley to test him out -that it would not
> be considered a  
> debut as long as I didn't announce it and no one
> took pics. Although  
> this is pretty tempting, I want to do this right so
> wondered your  
> thoughts on this.
> 
> What do y'all consider "Debut" and what can I do as
> far as "testing"?
> 
> Scape
> 
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> www.flyingfox.biz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From mistletoe at wi.rr.com  Tue Aug  7 09:56:16 2007
From: mistletoe at wi.rr.com (mistletoe at wi.rr.com)
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 08:56:16 -0500
Subject: FL: Two Piece Fursuit body
In-Reply-To: <134198.17329.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <134198.17329.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <fe8994c98e63c.8e63cfe8994c9@rdc-kc.rr.com>

Blueflyer wrote:
> Have there been any really well constructed two piece body suits 
> out there? Like, using a shirt and then some pants for the style. 
> I would really appreciate the input if this is a good idea (like 
> if i wanted to have the "topless" look but wear regular pants so 
> as not to get too hot.) 

My Mistletoe suit is a two-piece, for just that reason. It's nice 
being able to mix-and-match, depending on what clothes I want to wear 
with it. But that's the thing; I always have to wear some kind of 
clothes with it, to hide how the top isn't connected to the bottom. I 
can never go completely "naked" in the fur. ;) So I usually wear 
shorts or a skirt, depending on whether I want to look tomboy or 
feminine.

Also, not as much fur is required to make a two-piece. Sorry I don't 
have any photos online yet to illustrate this.

Happy suiting!
Wendy

From fox at flyingfox.biz  Tue Aug  7 10:05:00 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 10:05:00 -0400
Subject: FL: Two Piece Fursuit body
In-Reply-To: <fe8994c98e63c.8e63cfe8994c9@rdc-kc.rr.com>
References: <134198.17329.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<fe8994c98e63c.8e63cfe8994c9@rdc-kc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <3FE90F28-14FF-4946-9257-56079ECC2E17@flyingfox.biz>

Sounds like a comfy style of suit to wear though

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



On Aug 7, 2007, at 9:56 AM, mistletoe at wi.rr.com wrote:

Blueflyer wrote:
> Have there been any really well constructed two piece body suits
> out there? Like, using a shirt and then some pants for the style.
> I would really appreciate the input if this is a good idea (like
> if i wanted to have the "topless" look but wear regular pants so
> as not to get too hot.)

My Mistletoe suit is a two-piece, for just that reason. It's nice
being able to mix-and-match, depending on what clothes I want to wear
with it. But that's the thing; I always have to wear some kind of
clothes with it, to hide how the top isn't connected to the bottom. I
can never go completely "naked" in the fur. ;) So I usually wear
shorts or a skirt, depending on whether I want to look tomboy or
feminine.

Also, not as much fur is required to make a two-piece. Sorry I don't
have any photos online yet to illustrate this.

Happy suiting!
Wendy
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From Tripncheata at aol.com  Tue Aug  7 10:06:58 2007
From: Tripncheata at aol.com (Tripncheata at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 10:06:58 EDT
Subject: FL: Two Piece Fursuit body
Message-ID: <c3b.18ae0a63.33e9d682@aol.com>

Hey,
  I did a two piece once. It's true, it is hard to keep it from coming part 
if there is no form of attachment. But I found that a zipper like that of a 
jacket works quit well. it would work somewhat like those pants where you can 
take off the legs. You just have to make sure there is a flap that will fit over 
it and you picked out a smaller zipper other wise it will make the fur bulge 
out when it tries to lay over it. The benefit of this is that if you don't 
think you want to wear the full thing you can wear just the top to just the bottom 
with a T-shirt or a pair of pants the only think to really keep in mind is 
your stretch, how far you can bend before the fur rides up or moves down that 
way you will know where your restrictions are. It can also help to sew a band of 
elastic through the two seams to keep think in place if they aren't zipped.
 
Just sharing a little I'm not sure if it will work for you.
 
 
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From santafox at comcast.net  Tue Aug  7 10:53:18 2007
From: santafox at comcast.net (Santa Fox)
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:53:18 +0000
Subject: FL: Two Piece Fursuit body
Message-ID: <080720071453.2473.46B8875E00086FB1000009A922007374789801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>

> Have there been any really well constructed two piece body suits out there? 
> Like, using a shirt and then some pants for the style. I would really appreciate 
> the input if this is a good idea (like if i wanted to have the "topless" look 
> but wear regular pants so as not to get too hot.) 
> 
> Does this two piece method actually look good, or just lazy and sloppy?

I've done a two-piece design on three of my costume puppet creations (dragon, kangaroo, and stork).  However, this was due to design needs because of their long necks, rather than to be able to wear only half the costume in a partial suit configuration.

What I did in each case was to have the top half overlap the bottom half by about five inches, which gives me the ability to be active without worrying about the two halves pulling away from each other.  I also use suspenders on the lower half of each costume to make sure lower halves don't fall down on me.  Of course, this design looks best if the belly is padded a little bit, as the padded belly helps to keep the overlapped fabric of the upper half from working loose too easily.  Fortunately, with each of the characters I used this design on, a padded belly made perfect sense.

I must admit, though, that I'm moving away from that design in favor of a all-one-piece design (as with my Billy Goat) for my future characters that might have long extended necks, because I've never been that crazy about how the overlap looks.  On the stork (all white all the way around the abdomen), it looks pretty decent, but on the kangaroo and dragon (light bellies and darker fur/fleece on the backs and sides of the abdomen), it's hard to keep the light-color belly sections perfectly aligned when I'm running around a lot, and once the upper and lower belly sections get out of alignment, the misalignment becomes a bad eye-cather that reminds people that it's only a costume character.

Cheers,
Santa Fox

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From bdbfox at outgun.com  Thu Aug  9 01:41:45 2007
From: bdbfox at outgun.com (Damian K)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 00:41:45 -0500
Subject: FL: Got a Debut/ Debate question...
Message-ID: <20070809054145.A76F224FD5@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com>

Hey, Halloween is only 2 months and 3 weeks away.

-Damian


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fox Kinsman" <fox at flyingfox.biz>
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: FL: Got a Debut/ Debate question...
> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 14:08:29 -0400
> 
> 
> Hello!  I posted this to LJ Fursuit list just now but wondered what 
>   y'all think also...
> 
> I haven't ever debuted anything before and wondered what the 
> general  consensus is of the "furry dictionary" definition of 
> Debut. Not only  can I not make it to any conventions until FWA08 
> because of money and  time off but I also promised my best 
> furfriend that Scape's debute  would be February.
> Now -I've had some friends say that I should take Scape for a spin 
> at  the bowling alley to test him out -that it would not be 
> considered a  debut as long as I didn't announce it and no one took 
> pics. Although  this is pretty tempting, I want to do this right so 
> wondered your  thoughts on this.
> 
> What do y'all consider "Debut" and what can I do as far as "testing"?
> 
> Scape
> 
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> www.flyingfox.biz
> 
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From grey_llama at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  9 12:04:30 2007
From: grey_llama at yahoo.com (Sean Rook)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 09:04:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Got a Debut/ Debate question
In-Reply-To: <mailman.7.1186675205.20499.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <102619.78490.qm@web57602.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

A wonderful time of the year to scare the hell out of
children with a new suit :P

-Freaky Lynx

> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 00:41:45 -0500
> From: "Damian K" <bdbfox at outgun.com>
> Subject: Re: FL: Got a Debut/ Debate question...
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Message-ID:
> <20070809054145.A76F224FD5 at ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Hey, Halloween is only 2 months and 3 weeks away.
> 
> -Damian
> 
> 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Fox Kinsman" <fox at flyingfox.biz>
> > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> > Subject: FL: Got a Debut/ Debate question...
> > Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 14:08:29 -0400
> > 
> > 
> > Hello!  I posted this to LJ Fursuit list just now
> but wondered what 
> >   y'all think also...
> > 
> > I haven't ever debuted anything before and
> wondered what the 
> > general  consensus is of the "furry dictionary"
> definition of 
> > Debut. Not only  can I not make it to any
> conventions until FWA08 
> > because of money and  time off but I also promised
> my best 
> > furfriend that Scape's debute  would be February.
> > Now -I've had some friends say that I should take
> Scape for a spin 
> > at  the bowling alley to test him out -that it
> would not be 
> > considered a  debut as long as I didn't announce
> it and no one took 
> > pics. Although  this is pretty tempting, I want to
> do this right so 
> > wondered your  thoughts on this.
> > 
> > What do y'all consider "Debut" and what can I do
> as far as "testing"?
> > 
> > Scape



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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Fri Aug 10 13:47:49 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:47:49 -0400
Subject: FL: Helmets...
In-Reply-To: <102619.78490.qm@web57602.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <102619.78490.qm@web57602.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5EAA1F2A-F853-45A2-869F-5C2AE03013A7@flyingfox.biz>

How many other people like to work with helmets?
Just curious,

Scape


Fox =^_^=
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From santafox at comcast.net  Fri Aug 10 14:54:54 2007
From: santafox at comcast.net (Santa Fox)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:54:54 +0000
Subject: FL: Helmets...
Message-ID: <081020071854.975.46BCB47E00004F03000003CF22092299279801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz>
> How many other people like to work with helmets?
> Just curious,
> 
> Scape

My first fox head was built on a bicycle helmet.  At the time, I thought I was going to like the idea, but over the three years I used that head I grew more and more to want a simpler design.  So, when I rebuilt my fox costume I went with an all-foam head that fits snugly on my head (I wear a balaclava under the costume head for comfort.)  Having used this new head for over a year now, I don't think I'd ever go back to a helmet-based design.

That's just my opinion, and there are indeed some positives to building on a helmet.  It's all a matter of what you want to do with the head and what your personal tastes in head design are.

Cheers,
Santa Fox

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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Fri Aug 10 20:34:48 2007
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:34:48 -0400
Subject: FL: Helmets...
In-Reply-To: <081020071854.975.46BCB47E00004F03000003CF22092299279801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>
References: <081020071854.975.46BCB47E00004F03000003CF22092299279801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <577261b40708101734m6ff700ecue4dca78550f7972d@mail.gmail.com>

I agree with you santa fox.  I did the same thing, I used a helmet in
my first head, but it wasnt what I thought it would be. So reciently I
had the head remade without it.

-Foxwolf 9-Tails

From jtbeckett at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 11 10:52:43 2007
From: jtbeckett at hotmail.com (J.T. Beckett)
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 06:52:43 -0800
Subject: FL: Helmets...
In-Reply-To: <5EAA1F2A-F853-45A2-869F-5C2AE03013A7@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F394D2F3C790DF0DE89059DBBE20@phx.gbl>

i like to work with bicycle helmets... but i like a slightly oversized 
caracature head on my mascots... more toony... and the way i make them with 
a lot of airflow gives enough room inside to be really breathable.


>From: Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: FL: Helmets...
>Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:47:49 -0400
>
>How many other people like to work with helmets?
>Just curious,
>
>Scape
>
>
>Fox =^_^=
>John Fox Kinsman
>www.flyingfox.biz
>
>
>
>


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From fox at mchsi.com  Sat Aug 11 12:45:18 2007
From: fox at mchsi.com (fox)
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:45:18 -0500
Subject: FL: Helmets
Message-ID: <000c01c7dc37$00532730$6401a8c0@FoxDen>

Ive only used a helmet once. It was a street hockey goalie helmet for my 
gryphon. The existing cage on the front provided the structure I needed to 
attach the beak. And the helmet was small enough as to not make the head too 
big. (I tend to go toward smaller "realistic" sized). I will also admit that 
I "borrowed" that idea from Legend as his was built on the same foundation. 
Reinventing the wheel takes time and a lot of engineering paper.

For the "toony" style foam head, a bicycle helmet is a pretty good pick as 
the chin strat would help keep the head on and pointed the right way.




From dia at critter.net  Sat Aug 11 14:23:50 2007
From: dia at critter.net (dia at critter.net)
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:23:50 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: FL: Helmets...
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1186848008.5798.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
References: <mailman.5.1186848008.5798.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <13398.67.161.42.245.1186856630.squirrel@secure.critter.net>

I usually work with Balaclavas (nice and light). But for my Drama Llama I
needed something that would hold up to a bit of weight (since the
neck/head were ABOVE my human head)

I used a baseball batting helmet (just like this!
http://www.onlinesports.com/images/mw-abpbhs.gif ), took the lip off of
it, and added a chin strap so I had good movement.

Here is his page (with pictures on how I made him)
http://www.chameleon.net/~diadexxus/ljplex/index.html

-J


> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:47:49 -0400
> From: Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz>
> Subject: FL: Helmets...

>
> How many other people like to work with helmets?
> Just curious,
>
>
> Scape




From anthrofurry at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 12 19:43:36 2007
From: anthrofurry at yahoo.com (Kit the cougar)
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:43:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Helmets...
In-Reply-To: <5EAA1F2A-F853-45A2-869F-5C2AE03013A7@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <361640.45690.qm@web57710.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

I modified my first Darkstone Realms head using a motorcycle helmet.  Really stabilized things while in suit and allowed for a bit of extra head movement and better in-suit acting.  Also, I wore the suit on my motorcycles a couple of times (only in closed courses, of course...usually...sometimes) too!  Video is here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3504801049849661036&q=fox+on+a+motorcycle&total=147&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

~Kit (the cougar)

Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote: How many other people like to work with helmets?Just curious,


Scape
 


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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Wed Aug 15 10:14:53 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:14:53 -0400
Subject: FL: Helmets...
In-Reply-To: <361640.45690.qm@web57710.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <361640.45690.qm@web57710.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A9FD4E6A-E517-4E28-A005-B2D8DA46DBD5@flyingfox.biz>

I'm having pretty good luck so far with Scape's helmet.  The horns  
are attached with brackets and hardware so they are solid (solid  
enough to headbutt a tossed yoga ball!;)  The chin strap has been  
very helpful keeping the head on with the slight ungainliness of big  
horns too.  fun fun

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



On Aug 12, 2007, at 7:43 PM, Kit the cougar wrote:

I modified my first Darkstone Realms head using a motorcycle helmet.   
Really stabilized things while in suit and allowed for a bit of extra  
head movement and better in-suit acting.  Also, I wore the suit on my  
motorcycles a couple of times (only in closed courses, of  
course...usually...sometimes) too!  Video is here: http:// 
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3504801049849661036&q=fox+on+a 
+motorcycle&total=147&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

~Kit (the cougar)

Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
How many other people like to work with helmets?
Just curious,

Scape


Fox =^_^=
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www.flyingfox.biz




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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Wed Aug 15 10:28:59 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:28:59 -0400
Subject: FL: Rolls of fur...
In-Reply-To: <361640.45690.qm@web57710.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <361640.45690.qm@web57710.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6BDED439-AD1F-4486-A608-E7F46F5B77C2@flyingfox.biz>

Hello all,

I've still got some rolls of fur and I'm starting the gears turning  
in my head on how I can make them available to you.  I don't see any  
fur for sale on furbid, so I can't find a good learning example for  
my self.  I do believe that the auction route is the way to go to be  
fair to everyone, but I was wondering though about swatches -I didn't  
buy any fur for Scape without getting swatches first.  Is there a  
good way or some sort of protocol to follow with swatches and auctions?
I'm new to this and confused but I just want to do it the right way.
Thanks for any help you may have!

Scape


Fox =^_^=
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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Wed Aug 15 13:35:05 2007
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:35:05 -0400
Subject: FL: Rolls of fur...
In-Reply-To: <6BDED439-AD1F-4486-A608-E7F46F5B77C2@flyingfox.biz>
References: <361640.45690.qm@web57710.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<6BDED439-AD1F-4486-A608-E7F46F5B77C2@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <577261b40708151035x1a1de346hb57a6bfdc5cbb849@mail.gmail.com>

Can you take pics of the fur and put them up here maybe?

Depending on what fur it is you have, I'd love to have some. =^_^=

-Foxwolf 9-Tails

From dia at critter.net  Thu Aug 16 18:34:52 2007
From: dia at critter.net (dia at critter.net)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:34:52 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: FL: Rolls of fur...
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1187193604.7361.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
References: <mailman.3.1187193604.7361.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <48652.71.138.151.249.1187303692.squirrel@secure.critter.net>

yes, go to LiveJournal, then look up FursuitAuctions.  It is the PERFECT
place to post pics of what you have, and how much of each type and what
you are asking for it.

Goodluck!
-J


> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:28:59 -0400
> From: Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz>
> Subject: FL: Rolls of fur...

> Hello all,
>
>
> I've still got some rolls of fur and I'm starting the gears turning
> in my head on how I can make them available to you.  I don't see any fur
> for sale on furbid, so I can't find a good learning example for my self.
> I do believe that the auction route is the way to go to be
> fair to everyone, but I was wondering though about swatches -I didn't buy
> any fur for Scape without getting swatches first.  Is there a good way or
> some sort of protocol to follow with swatches and auctions? I'm new to
> this and confused but I just want to do it the right way. Thanks for any
> help you may have!
>
> Scape
>
>
>
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> www.flyingfox.biz
>
>
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From blue_heel at fsun.net  Mon Aug 20 21:11:11 2007
From: blue_heel at fsun.net (Doctor)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:11:11 -0500
Subject: FL: MFM: It's nearly upon us.
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20070820200239.024c2628@mail.fsun.net>


---
Rusty: I put a dollar in, I got a car. I put a dollar in, I got a car. I 
put a dollar in, I got a car. I put a dollar in, I got a car.
Clark Griswold: How did you win four cars?
Rusty: You know, put in a dollar, win a car. Put in another dollar, win 
another car...
Clark Griswold: Give me the keys. Audrey, you drive the white one; Ellen, 
the red one
[a Ferrari]
Clark Griswold: , Rusty, you drive the Mustang, and I'll drive the big, 
black one
[a Hummer]
Clark Griswold: . After you, Mr. Papagiorgio.

---

It doesn't matter what car you drive down to Memphis in a week and a few 
days, you just have to be there.  Fursuiters,  if you are there, don't 
forget to participate in the Masquarade.  Just remember that the signup for 
the event is on Friday night (check the schedule).  Also, if you are a 
fursuiter, and don't have an act, don't worry.  If you want to help out, I 
am looking for two fursuiters that aren't in any acts.  And there might be 
a few acts that might need extra furs, let me know that too.  It's coming 
up very soon.. very very soon, so if you have an act, make sure you're 
participating.  See you all there.

It's BIG, It's BOLD, and it's Vegas Baby

Blue

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From superhedgie at googlemail.com  Fri Aug 24 19:22:18 2007
From: superhedgie at googlemail.com (Super BH)
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:22:18 +0100
Subject: FL: Furry Runners RPG
Message-ID: <001401c7e6a5$9e87a2f0$6700000a@NoobSaibot>

If anyone's interested, I need playtesters for the new RPG I invented. I need the system tested to make sure it works, and is fun to play. The website is here http://www.furnation.com/beeaitch

Thanks, Hedgie
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Fri Aug 24 22:56:07 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:56:07 -0700
Subject: FL: Furry Runners RPG
In-Reply-To: <001401c7e6a5$9e87a2f0$6700000a@NoobSaibot>
References: <001401c7e6a5$9e87a2f0$6700000a@NoobSaibot>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0708241956x77934e5fhf9dd33ad644cae73@mail.gmail.com>

Its to compacted. The way you have it your bogging the play down.
Simplify it. Ditch the point system. Also the equipment weight system
needs some changing. I do like how you have the armor is but not
weapons or misalliance equipment.

Donkey

On 8/24/07, Super BH <superhedgie at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
> If anyone's interested, I need playtesters for the new RPG I invented. I
> need the system tested to make sure it works, and is fun to play. The
> website is here http://www.furnation.com/beeaitch
>
> Thanks, Hedgie
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From superhedgie at googlemail.com  Fri Aug 24 22:53:08 2007
From: superhedgie at googlemail.com (Super BH)
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 03:53:08 +0100
Subject: FL: Furry Runners RPG
References: <001401c7e6a5$9e87a2f0$6700000a@NoobSaibot>
	<d23d76ca0708241956x77934e5fhf9dd33ad644cae73@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001d01c7e6c3$11d3e8a0$6700000a@NoobSaibot>

I thought this WAS simplified. Compared to Ironclaw or World Tree this is
pretty simple :)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donkey" <donkeyears at gmail.com>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 3:56 AM
Subject: Re: FL: Furry Runners RPG


> Its to compacted. The way you have it your bogging the play down.
> Simplify it. Ditch the point system. Also the equipment weight system
> needs some changing. I do like how you have the armor is but not
> weapons or misalliance equipment.
>
> Donkey


From donkeyears at gmail.com  Fri Aug 24 23:04:53 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:04:53 -0700
Subject: FL: Furry Runners RPG
In-Reply-To: <001d01c7e6c3$11d3e8a0$6700000a@NoobSaibot>
References: <001401c7e6a5$9e87a2f0$6700000a@NoobSaibot>
	<d23d76ca0708241956x77934e5fhf9dd33ad644cae73@mail.gmail.com>
	<001d01c7e6c3$11d3e8a0$6700000a@NoobSaibot>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0708242004l408f2332v75cc52285a056916@mail.gmail.com>

Where did I say that Ironclaw was simple? As for World Tree I dont
know that one.

Donkey

On 8/24/07, Super BH <superhedgie at googlemail.com> wrote:
> I thought this WAS simplified. Compared to Ironclaw or World Tree this is
> pretty simple :)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donkey" <donkeyears at gmail.com>
> To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 3:56 AM
> Subject: Re: FL: Furry Runners RPG
>
>
> > Its to compacted. The way you have it your bogging the play down.
> > Simplify it. Ditch the point system. Also the equipment weight system
> > needs some changing. I do like how you have the armor is but not
> > weapons or misalliance equipment.
> >
> > Donkey
>
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From superhedgie at googlemail.com  Fri Aug 24 23:04:23 2007
From: superhedgie at googlemail.com (Super BH)
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 04:04:23 +0100
Subject: FL: Furry Runners RPG
References: <001401c7e6a5$9e87a2f0$6700000a@NoobSaibot><d23d76ca0708241956x77934e5fhf9dd33ad644cae73@mail.gmail.com><001d01c7e6c3$11d3e8a0$6700000a@NoobSaibot>
	<d23d76ca0708242004l408f2332v75cc52285a056916@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003801c7e6c4$a49b2d00$6700000a@NoobSaibot>

You didn't. I just found that even creating a character in Ironclaw was a
chore! I just wanted something that was simple and easy.


> Where did I say that Ironclaw was simple? As for World Tree I dont
> know that one.
>
> Donkey


From donkeyears at gmail.com  Fri Aug 24 23:13:17 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:13:17 -0700
Subject: FL: Furry Runners RPG
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0708242004l408f2332v75cc52285a056916@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001401c7e6a5$9e87a2f0$6700000a@NoobSaibot>
	<d23d76ca0708241956x77934e5fhf9dd33ad644cae73@mail.gmail.com>
	<001d01c7e6c3$11d3e8a0$6700000a@NoobSaibot>
	<d23d76ca0708242004l408f2332v75cc52285a056916@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0708242013yf1f5280qf9bcfa883b74bc68@mail.gmail.com>

But to confess. I love Role Master. Combat in RM is quite compacted
but all other skills are quite simple. Back to ironclaw. I do like the
XP system. A game that you don't have to fight to get XP will always
be a good start for a new RPG. Like in D&D how is a magic thrower to
advance in level if he cant kill crap with one pointless spell and he
cant fight his way out of a paper bag.

Donkey

On 8/24/07, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
> Where did I say that Ironclaw was simple? As for World Tree I dont
> know that one.
>
> Donkey
>
> On 8/24/07, Super BH <superhedgie at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > I thought this WAS simplified. Compared to Ironclaw or World Tree this is
> > pretty simple :)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Donkey" <donkeyears at gmail.com>
> > To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 3:56 AM
> > Subject: Re: FL: Furry Runners RPG
> >
> >
> > > Its to compacted. The way you have it your bogging the play down.
> > > Simplify it. Ditch the point system. Also the equipment weight system
> > > needs some changing. I do like how you have the armor is but not
> > > weapons or misalliance equipment.
> > >
> > > Donkey
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From felinius.tigerclaw at gmail.com  Sat Aug 25 08:06:45 2007
From: felinius.tigerclaw at gmail.com (Felinius de Tigerclaw)
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 08:06:45 -0400
Subject: FL: Furry Runners RPG
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0708242013yf1f5280qf9bcfa883b74bc68@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001401c7e6a5$9e87a2f0$6700000a@NoobSaibot>	<d23d76ca0708241956x77934e5fhf9dd33ad644cae73@mail.gmail.com>	<001d01c7e6c3$11d3e8a0$6700000a@NoobSaibot>	<d23d76ca0708242004l408f2332v75cc52285a056916@mail.gmail.com>
	<d23d76ca0708242013yf1f5280qf9bcfa883b74bc68@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46D01B55.7080503@gmail.com>

As much as I love RPG's (and I used to run more then a few at a hobby 
shop)...I'm not quite sure how this relates to the topic of this 
list...not to be a wet blanket...

Feliniusde Tigerclaw, tired of filtering


Donkey wrote:

>But to confess. I love Role Master. Combat in RM is quite compacted
>but all other skills are quite simple. Back to ironclaw. I do like the
>XP system. A game that you don't have to fight to get XP will always
>be a good start for a new RPG. Like in D&D how is a magic thrower to
>advance in level if he cant kill crap with one pointless spell and he
>cant fight his way out of a paper bag.
>
>Donkey
>
>On 8/24/07, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Where did I say that Ironclaw was simple? As for World Tree I dont
>>know that one.
>>
>>Donkey
>>
>>On 8/24/07, Super BH <superhedgie at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>I thought this WAS simplified. Compared to Ironclaw or World Tree this is
>>>pretty simple :)
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Donkey" <donkeyears at gmail.com>
>>>To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
>>>Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 3:56 AM
>>>Subject: Re: FL: Furry Runners RPG
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Its to compacted. The way you have it your bogging the play down.
>>>>Simplify it. Ditch the point system. Also the equipment weight system
>>>>needs some changing. I do like how you have the armor is but not
>>>>weapons or misalliance equipment.
>>>>
>>>>Donkey
>>>>        
>>>>
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sat Aug 25 11:45:41 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 08:45:41 -0700
Subject: FL: Furry Runners RPG
In-Reply-To: <46D01B55.7080503@gmail.com>
References: <001401c7e6a5$9e87a2f0$6700000a@NoobSaibot>
	<d23d76ca0708241956x77934e5fhf9dd33ad644cae73@mail.gmail.com>
	<001d01c7e6c3$11d3e8a0$6700000a@NoobSaibot>
	<d23d76ca0708242004l408f2332v75cc52285a056916@mail.gmail.com>
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Ahhhh... Its slow on the list? Ahhhh... There is nothing else to talk
about...
HAY LOOK OVER THERE! THERE IS A SALE ON ENBEC! When every one is distracted
I gallop away in the other duration.

Donkey

On 8/25/07, Felinius de Tigerclaw <felinius.tigerclaw at gmail.com> wrote:
> As much as I love RPG's (and I used to run more then a few at a hobby
> shop)...I'm not quite sure how this relates to the topic of this
> list...not to be a wet blanket...
>
> Feliniusde Tigerclaw, tired of filtering
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From mhagen_2001 at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 26 18:30:01 2007
From: mhagen_2001 at yahoo.com (Patch)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 15:30:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Fiberglassing
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1188057602.7350.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <650398.58850.qm@web50301.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Does anyone here have experience using Tap Plastics Polyester Resin Finish Coat A?  I'm wondering how long it takes for the smell to diminish.


--Patch


*******************************************
Homer: That baby-proofing crook wanted to sell us safety 
  covers for the electrical outlets. But I'll just draw 
  bunny faces on them to scare Maggie away.
Marge: She's not afraid of bunnies.
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From furrycouple at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 27 15:09:59 2007
From: furrycouple at hotmail.com (Johara Saluki)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:09:59 -0200
Subject: FL: Fiberglassing
In-Reply-To: <650398.58850.qm@web50301.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.5.1188057602.7350.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<650398.58850.qm@web50301.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY109-W7E11E66C703E6F35C3BCCA5D20@phx.gbl>


Yikes!!! I hope you didn't use this stuff in the house. I used this while making my head......thankfully, I did it in the garage. The smell didn't disappear for about a week. The headache went away much sooner.


Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 15:30:01 -0700From: mhagen_2001 at yahoo.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: FL: FiberglassingDoes anyone here have experience using Tap Plastics Polyester Resin Finish Coat A?  I'm wondering how long it takes for the smell to diminish.--Patch*******************************************Homer: That baby-proofing crook wanted to sell us safety covers for the electrical outlets. But I'll just draw bunny faces on them to scare Maggie away.Marge: She's not afraid of bunnies.Homer: (ominously) She will be. 


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From mhagen_2001 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 29 00:15:06 2007
From: mhagen_2001 at yahoo.com (Patch)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:15:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Fiberglassing (Johara Saluki)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1188316808.7056.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <928140.5176.qm@web50310.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


> From: Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
> 
> Yikes!!! I hope you didn't use this stuff in the
> house. I used this while making my
> head......thankfully, I did it in the garage. The
> smell didn't disappear for about a week. The
> headache went away much sooner.

No, I did it in my garage, but the completed unit
still stank.  Appears to take about a week to clear.

--Patch

*******************************************
Homer: That baby-proofing crook wanted to sell us safety 
  covers for the electrical outlets. But I'll just draw 
  bunny faces on them to scare Maggie away.
Marge: She's not afraid of bunnies.
Homer: (ominously) She will be.


       
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From mhagen_2001 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 31 00:33:21 2007
From: mhagen_2001 at yahoo.com (Patch)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:33:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Looking for a radio costume prop
Message-ID: <325075.75339.qm@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I am looking for a police-style radio with separate
corded mike, like the ones you see police/emergency
personnel wear.  It does not have to work (not working
preferred - I'm spending enough as it is), I just need
it as a prop.  Anyone have such an item in their geek
collection?

--Patch

*******************************************
Homer: That baby-proofing crook wanted to sell us safety 
  covers for the electrical outlets. But I'll just draw 
  bunny faces on them to scare Maggie away.
Marge: She's not afraid of bunnies.
Homer: (ominously) She will be.


       
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Fri Aug 31 07:50:04 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:50:04 -0400
Subject: FL: Looking for a radio costume prop
In-Reply-To: <325075.75339.qm@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <325075.75339.qm@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4F4B4918-A48A-41B7-9F10-2612311024BF@flyingfox.biz>

I have one in my geek collection but I'm, um... using it lol!
I'd say it's high time to hit thrift shops or go yard sailin' ;)  Ham  
radio fests are a good place to find tons of old fixer-upper type  
equipment for real cheap too.  Or you could make one out of old junk,  
even black tape, foamboard, phone cord -that just gives the  
impression of the prop.

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



On Aug 31, 2007, at 12:33 AM, Patch wrote:

I am looking for a police-style radio with separate
corded mike, like the ones you see police/emergency
personnel wear.  It does not have to work (not working
preferred - I'm spending enough as it is), I just need
it as a prop.  Anyone have such an item in their geek
collection?

--Patch

*******************************************
Homer: That baby-proofing crook wanted to sell us safety
   covers for the electrical outlets. But I'll just draw
   bunny faces on them to scare Maggie away.
Marge: She's not afraid of bunnies.
Homer: (ominously) She will be.



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From sewcrazy at brightusa.net  Fri Aug 31 12:15:48 2007
From: sewcrazy at brightusa.net (Sharon)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:15:48 -0400
Subject: FL: Looking for a radio costume prop
In-Reply-To: <325075.75339.qm@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200708311615.l7VGFmgG030190@sparky.bright.net>


Patch, try calling your local PD. Ours has a box of dead stuff. No one knows
what to do with it, city property and all that stuff. Maybe you could ask to
borrow or purchase for scrap price. Explain to them your purpose and you
never know, they might be happy to help. Also, the dept has a favorite
repair shop for their radios. Check the local area for a radio service
repair. They are also sure to have a morgue with dead ones.
Good Luck
Sharon

I am looking for a police-style radio with separate
corded mike, like the ones you see police/emergency
personnel wear.  It does not have to work (not working
preferred - I'm spending enough as it is), I just need
it as a prop.  Anyone have such an item in their geek
collection?

--Patch




From afterfox at aim.com  Sun Sep  2 13:30:48 2007
From: afterfox at aim.com (afterfox at aim.com)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 13:30:48 -0400
Subject: FL: Looking for a radio costume prop
In-Reply-To: <4F4B4918-A48A-41B7-9F10-2612311024BF@flyingfox.biz>
References: <325075.75339.qm@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<4F4B4918-A48A-41B7-9F10-2612311024BF@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <8C9BB9E22B3B0A8-8BC-4ADE@webmail-md20.sysops.aol.com>

Hey all,



I wanted to build a pair of
eyeglasses for my fursuit, but am not having much luck finding any
information in google.? Does anyone have any good tutorials or websites
that can show me how to go about making something like this?? Obviously
I just can't order a pair online, as they'd never fit.? ;)



Thanks!
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From afterfox at aim.com  Sun Sep  2 14:45:26 2007
From: afterfox at aim.com (afterfox at aim.com)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 14:45:26 -0400
Subject: FL: Fursuit Sunglasses
In-Reply-To: <8C9BB9E22B3B0A8-8BC-4ADE@webmail-md20.sysops.aol.com>
References: <325075.75339.qm@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<4F4B4918-A48A-41B7-9F10-2612311024BF@flyingfox.biz>
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Message-ID: <8C9BBA88FDDCBAB-FA4-4997@WEBMAIL-DF06.sysops.aol.com>


 Woops... I forgot to change the title when doing a reply to someone elses's message. Not to derail their topic, I'm resending this.? Sorry for the spam there.





I wanted to build a pair of
eyeglasses for my fursuit, but am not having much luck finding any
information in google.? Does anyone have any good tutorials or websites
that can show me how to go about making something like this?? Obviously
I just can't order a pair online, as they'd never fit.? ;)





Thanks!






 


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From cleverlilminx at yahoo.com  Sun Sep  2 14:48:15 2007
From: cleverlilminx at yahoo.com (Wendy Wassmer)
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:48:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Fursuit Sunglasses
In-Reply-To: <8C9BBA88FDDCBAB-FA4-4997@WEBMAIL-DF06.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <231994.68793.qm@web61024.mail.yahoo.com>

Would something like this help:

http://www.orientaltrading.com/application?namespace=browse&origin=/products/25_201.jsp&event=link.externalProductDetails&sku=25/201&topLevelCategoryId=377322&parentCategoryId=377502&categoryId=377526&tabId=Toys%20&%20Novelties&BP=8067&cm_mmc=srchdex-_-JUMBO+SUNGLASSES-_-srchdex-_-srchdex&CM_REF=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Djumbo%2Bsunglasses%26ie%3Dutf-8%26oe%3Dutf-8%26aq%3Dt%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial%26client%3Dfirefox-a



 
       
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From m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de  Mon Sep  3 04:12:59 2007
From: m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de (m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:12:59 +0200
Subject: FL: Fursuit Sunglasses
In-Reply-To: <8C9BBA88FDDCBAB-FA4-4997@WEBMAIL-DF06.sysops.aol.com>
References: <325075.75339.qm@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<4F4B4918-A48A-41B7-9F10-2612311024BF@flyingfox.biz>
	<8C9BB9E22B3B0A8-8BC-4ADE@webmail-md20.sysops.aol.com>
	<8C9BBA88FDDCBAB-FA4-4997@WEBMAIL-DF06.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <1949614190.20070903101259@maskottchen-germany.de>

Hi Folks


Here a suggestion fur Sunglasses.
Ask your local optican he could order for you plastic lenses in different colors. And they even not that expensive.

Greetings 

Atalon


>------
>  Woops... I forgot to change the title when doing a reply to someone elses's
> message. Not to derail their topic, I'm resending this.? Sorry for the spam there.





> I wanted to build a pair of
> eyeglasses for my fursuit, but am not having much luck finding any
> information in google.? Does anyone have any good tutorials or websites
> that can show me how to go about making something like this?? Obviously
> I just can't order a pair online, as they'd never fit.? ;)





> Thanks!






>  


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From ww2p51d at hotmail.com  Mon Sep  3 06:36:07 2007
From: ww2p51d at hotmail.com (Messerschmitt .)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 10:36:07 +0000
Subject: FL: Fursuit Sunglasses
In-Reply-To: <8C9BBA88FDDCBAB-FA4-4997@WEBMAIL-DF06.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY114-F30CBD8476FF7B561A36C3BEDC90@phx.gbl>

I used a broken pair of aviator sunglasses and a wire coathnager to make a 
pair for my fursuits.  I cut them in half then hotglued (yeah, not that 
great) a peice of wire pewteen them then added longer pieces for the 
supports.

Here's a pic.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff152/Messerschmitt51/Accessories/fursuitSunglasses.jpg
And my gryphon wearing them.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff152/Messerschmitt51/Marcus/PS2/Relaxin.jpg

I hope this was a bit useful!

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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Wed Sep 12 11:41:30 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:41:30 -0700
Subject: FL: Got your goat?
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0709120841n1a99a99ej208ceaab6c2bc15@mail.gmail.com>

Well I have gotten my goat. Well almost. He will be done intime for FC.
His name is Billy Boy. That is if that name is not already used for a
goat fursuit.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

From antimon at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 12 14:10:57 2007
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:10:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: FL: Got your goat?
Message-ID: <24645372.1189620657895.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Well there is a Billy D Goat... (Santa Fox) does that count?

-----Original Message-----
>From: Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com>
>Sent: Sep 12, 2007 11:41 AM
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: FL: Got your goat?
>
>Well I have gotten my goat. Well almost. He will be done intime for FC.
>His name is Billy Boy. That is if that name is not already used for a
>goat fursuit.
>
>His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Wed Sep 12 14:26:43 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:26:43 -0700
Subject: FL: Got your goat?
In-Reply-To: <24645372.1189620657895.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <24645372.1189620657895.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0709121126q5ec253cbjdfd31d2d8e2eb75@mail.gmail.com>

Nope, its not Billy Boy. Close is not a problem the same exact name is.

I name my fursuits as if there mere animals aka as someone would name
there pets. Not as if they are people that have the ability to
understand what there being called.

Donkey

On 9/12/07, Antimon <antimon at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Well there is a Billy D Goat... (Santa Fox) does that count?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com>
> >Sent: Sep 12, 2007 11:41 AM
> >To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> >Subject: FL: Got your goat?
> >
> >Well I have gotten my goat. Well almost. He will be done intime for FC.
> >His name is Billy Boy. That is if that name is not already used for a
> >goat fursuit.
> >
> >His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
>

From fox at flyingfox.biz  Wed Sep 12 14:27:18 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:27:18 -0400
Subject: FL: Got your goat?
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0709120841n1a99a99ej208ceaab6c2bc15@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d23d76ca0709120841n1a99a99ej208ceaab6c2bc15@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <676E749A-4715-49EA-A351-5A4F58D81C8B@flyingfox.biz>

Yay!  another capra to meet!

ooo -I happened upon a plushie goat at the antique store -his tag  
said "William "Bill" Leigh Goat" ;)

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



On Sep 12, 2007, at 11:41 AM, Donkey wrote:

Well I have gotten my goat. Well almost. He will be done intime for FC.
His name is Billy Boy. That is if that name is not already used for a
goat fursuit.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
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From tristan at furbase.de  Wed Sep 12 22:17:04 2007
From: tristan at furbase.de (Tristan)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 04:17:04 +0200
Subject: FL: First Paw-Tryout
Message-ID: <BF23B02C-D6C3-4868-B181-06F3425DF15C@furbase.de>

Hey there :3

I finally started working on my suit again..

And .. i started with the most important thing ... the paws of course ;)



here are some pics:

http://www.spottycat.de/pics/suit/suit_paw_r_1.jpg
http://www.spottycat.de/pics/suit/suit_paw_r_2.jpg
http://www.spottycat.de/pics/suit/suit_paw_r_3.jpg

what do you think ?
I will cut down the fur on the sides abit to make it look mor "round" ..

i will add latex pawpads underneath it .. and the toes are partly  
movable ;) ..

yes.. i'm a sucker for paws :D

Trissi

From fox at flyingfox.biz  Thu Sep 13 06:11:27 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (John Fox Kinsman)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 06:11:27 -0400
Subject: FL: First Paw-Tryout
In-Reply-To: <BF23B02C-D6C3-4868-B181-06F3425DF15C@furbase.de>
References: <BF23B02C-D6C3-4868-B181-06F3425DF15C@furbase.de>
Message-ID: <D9F3D011-0D13-4ABA-A593-576897200F7B@flyingfox.biz>

wow those are sweet -i love the toes

mmm fffffuzzy

Scape


Fox =^_^=
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fox at flyingfox.biz




On Sep 12, 2007, at 10:17 PM, Tristan wrote:

Hey there :3

I finally started working on my suit again..

And .. i started with the most important thing ... the paws of course ;)



here are some pics:

http://www.spottycat.de/pics/suit/suit_paw_r_1.jpg
http://www.spottycat.de/pics/suit/suit_paw_r_2.jpg
http://www.spottycat.de/pics/suit/suit_paw_r_3.jpg

what do you think ?
I will cut down the fur on the sides abit to make it look mor "round" ..

i will add latex pawpads underneath it .. and the toes are partly
movable ;) ..

yes.. i'm a sucker for paws :D

Trissi
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From streakthetiger at gmail.com  Thu Sep 13 10:05:42 2007
From: streakthetiger at gmail.com (Streak)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 07:05:42 -0700
Subject: FL: First Paw-Tryout
In-Reply-To: <BF23B02C-D6C3-4868-B181-06F3425DF15C@furbase.de>
References: <BF23B02C-D6C3-4868-B181-06F3425DF15C@furbase.de>
Message-ID: <a584d75d0709130705m2b6889f0u38aa720dfce5b931@mail.gmail.com>

Hey, those look great! Nicely shaped >^. .^<

Movable toes eh? Cute.


On 9/12/07, Tristan <tristan at furbase.de> wrote:
>
> Hey there :3
>
> I finally started working on my suit again..
>
> And .. i started with the most important thing ... the paws of course ;)
>
>
>
> here are some pics:
>
> http://www.spottycat.de/pics/suit/suit_paw_r_1.jpg
> http://www.spottycat.de/pics/suit/suit_paw_r_2.jpg
> http://www.spottycat.de/pics/suit/suit_paw_r_3.jpg
>
> what do you think ?
> I will cut down the fur on the sides abit to make it look mor "round" ..
>
> i will add latex pawpads underneath it .. and the toes are partly
> movable ;) ..
>
> yes.. i'm a sucker for paws :D
>
> Trissi
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From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Fri Sep 14 09:23:09 2007
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:23:09 +0000
Subject: FL: First Paw-Tryout
In-Reply-To: <a584d75d0709130705m2b6889f0u38aa720dfce5b931@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BF23B02C-D6C3-4868-B181-06F3425DF15C@furbase.de>
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Message-ID: <BAY101-W2525DAD7372F5DA6353123A9BC0@phx.gbl>


I do agree the feet are nicely done and look great! Keep it up and lets see what else you can accomplish!

Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 07:05:42 -0700From: streakthetiger at gmail.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: First Paw-Tryout

Hey, those look great! Nicely shaped >^. .^<
 
Movable toes eh? Cute.  
On 9/12/07, Tristan <tristan at furbase.de> wrote: 
Hey there :3I finally started working on my suit again..And .. i started with the most important thing ... the paws of course ;) here are some pics:http://www.spottycat.de/pics/suit/suit_paw_r_1.jpghttp://www.spottycat.de/pics/suit/suit_paw_r_2.jpghttp://www.spottycat.de/pics/suit/suit_paw_r_3.jpgwhat do you think ?I will cut down the fur on the sides abit to make it look mor "round" .. i will add latex pawpads underneath it .. and the toes are partlymovable ;) ..yes.. i'm a sucker for paws :DTrissi______________________________________________________________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list.To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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From rufuswolf77 at hotmail.com  Fri Sep 14 22:52:06 2007
From: rufuswolf77 at hotmail.com (rufus wolf)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 22:52:06 -0400
Subject: FL: First Paw-Tryout
In-Reply-To: <BF23B02C-D6C3-4868-B181-06F3425DF15C@furbase.de>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F39A6D3EFFB3AD91492958FBABD0@phx.gbl>

Wow!!! really nice!!!!!!!
~Leto


>From: Tristan <tristan at furbase.de>
>Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: FL: First Paw-Tryout
>Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 04:17:04 +0200
>
>Hey there :3
>
>I finally started working on my suit again..
>
>And .. i started with the most important thing ... the paws of course ;)
>
>
>
>here are some pics:
>
>http://www.spottycat.de/pics/suit/suit_paw_r_1.jpg
>http://www.spottycat.de/pics/suit/suit_paw_r_2.jpg
>http://www.spottycat.de/pics/suit/suit_paw_r_3.jpg
>
>what do you think ?
>I will cut down the fur on the sides abit to make it look mor "round" ..
>
>i will add latex pawpads underneath it .. and the toes are partly
>movable ;) ..
>
>yes.. i'm a sucker for paws :D
>
>Trissi
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From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Fri Sep 14 23:40:03 2007
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (Cyan FOX)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:40:03 -0400
Subject: FL: First Paw-Tryout
In-Reply-To: <BF23B02C-D6C3-4868-B181-06F3425DF15C@furbase.de>
References: <BF23B02C-D6C3-4868-B181-06F3425DF15C@furbase.de>
Message-ID: <b1c118750709142040ia4745d4se994df0b64ce7225@mail.gmail.com>

omg those are sexy i luff paws too c.c shame you did not let me private
dance with your paws at EF ^_~ maybe next year :D

On 9/12/07, Tristan <tristan at furbase.de> wrote:
>
> Hey there :3
>
> I finally started working on my suit again..
>
> And .. i started with the most important thing ... the paws of course ;)
>
>
>
> here are some pics:
>
> http://www.spottycat.de/pics/suit/suit_paw_r_1.jpg
> http://www.spottycat.de/pics/suit/suit_paw_r_2.jpg
> http://www.spottycat.de/pics/suit/suit_paw_r_3.jpg
>
> what do you think ?
> I will cut down the fur on the sides abit to make it look mor "round" ..
>
> i will add latex pawpads underneath it .. and the toes are partly
> movable ;) ..
>
> yes.. i'm a sucker for paws :D
>
> Trissi
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Tue Sep 18 08:25:46 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 05:25:46 -0700
Subject: FL: Got your goat?
In-Reply-To: <676E749A-4715-49EA-A351-5A4F58D81C8B@flyingfox.biz>
References: <d23d76ca0709120841n1a99a99ej208ceaab6c2bc15@mail.gmail.com>
	<676E749A-4715-49EA-A351-5A4F58D81C8B@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0709180525r25003f01m4c25945e538ecf2d@mail.gmail.com>

Billy Boy is now done. He is all ready to be drooled all over at FC.

By the way. I meant that as figuratively not literally. Billy Boy does not
want to have to wash drool out of his fur.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
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From wallyfox98 at hotmail.com  Tue Sep 18 20:02:53 2007
From: wallyfox98 at hotmail.com (Wally_Wabbit/Stephen H./Wallyfox)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:02:53 -0400
Subject: FL: Furfright Fursuiter Feast!
In-Reply-To: <b1c118750709142040ia4745d4se994df0b64ce7225@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY121-F233E4D2068B0AE285065AED0B90@phx.gbl>


I am planning to host a dinner for fursuit folk on Friday 10/19 at a 
restaurant near the hotel. This is an "out of suit" event where fursuiters 
can meet others and eat. There have been many similar gatherings at past 
cons.

I have yet to set an exact time or place. I am looking for input on where 
folks would like to eat along with a rough count. The exact details will be 
posted to closer to the con and the exact count won't be needed until a few 
days prior.

Here are some options you can vote on (All are within 3 miles of the hotel). 
  Please send a priavate off-list email to wallyfox98 at hotmail.com with 
your choice:

1) American Steakhouse- Buffet/Steak restaurant that can handle seperate 
checks and has very low prices.

2) Chinese Buffet- We have 2-3 choices!

3) Hometown Buffet

4) Athenian Diner - If they can handle us!

5) Other- TGI Friday's, Red Lobster, Chili's, Ruby Tuesday, Etc.

snuggles

Wally_Wabbit


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From mike_moore17 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  1 15:08:45 2007
From: mike_moore17 at yahoo.com (mike moore)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:08:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Add me to the list please
Message-ID: <953698.16516.qm@web52302.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

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From rainhopperroo at adelphia.net  Mon Oct  1 15:17:42 2007
From: rainhopperroo at adelphia.net (Rainhopper)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:17:42 -0700
Subject: FL: quick introduction
Message-ID: <22530152.1191266262622.JavaMail.root@web28>

hello, how is everyone?

my name is Rainhopper, just a random 80's kanga from anaheim california. thinking of getting into the fursuit making scene, definately want to meet a few makers who can help give me a paw, give me suggestions on where to start and how to start. 

would also like to meet a few of the makers out there to see who all knows how to do animatronics, with the higher tech end of things. both for research and possible commission. 

anyway, wanted to say ello and whats up ^_^

From rainhopperroo at adelphia.net  Mon Oct  1 15:17:48 2007
From: rainhopperroo at adelphia.net (Rainhopper)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:17:48 -0700
Subject: FL: quick introduction
Message-ID: <2511275.1191266268831.JavaMail.root@web28>

hello, how is everyone?

my name is Rainhopper, just a random 80's kanga from anaheim california. thinking of getting into the fursuit making scene, definately want to meet a few makers who can help give me a paw, give me suggestions on where to start and how to start. 

would also like to meet a few of the makers out there to see who all knows how to do animatronics, with the higher tech end of things. both for research and possible commission. 

anyway, wanted to say ello and whats up ^_^

From chameleon264 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  1 15:25:38 2007
From: chameleon264 at yahoo.com (Black Foot)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:25:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: quick introduction
In-Reply-To: <2511275.1191266268831.JavaMail.root@web28>
Message-ID: <788762.10760.qm@web56904.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

hhhhhooowwwwwwwwwl there Rainhopper my name is Black Foot your name sounds familiar. I'm just curious weren't you related to Pouchhopper? if so then we have chatted before but if not then I would like to welcome you to this group and I do hope that you can get into fursuit making.

Rainhopper <rainhopperroo at adelphia.net> wrote:  hello, how is everyone?

my name is Rainhopper, just a random 80's kanga from anaheim california. thinking of getting into the fursuit making scene, definately want to meet a few makers who can help give me a paw, give me suggestions on where to start and how to start. 

would also like to meet a few of the makers out there to see who all knows how to do animatronics, with the higher tech end of things. both for research and possible commission. 

anyway, wanted to say ello and whats up ^_^
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From rainhopperroo at adelphia.net  Mon Oct  1 15:34:06 2007
From: rainhopperroo at adelphia.net (Rainhopper)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:34:06 -0700
Subject: FL: quick introduction
Message-ID: <28836593.1191267246943.JavaMail.root@web28>

I was married to Pouchhopper before he passed away in may actually. 


---- Black Foot <chameleon264 at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> hhhhhooowwwwwwwwwl there Rainhopper my name is Black Foot your name sounds familiar. I'm just curious weren't you related to Pouchhopper? if so then we have chatted before but if not then I would like to welcome you to this group and I do hope that you can get into fursuit making.
> 
> Rainhopper <rainhopperroo at adelphia.net> wrote:  hello, how is everyone?
> 
> my name is Rainhopper, just a random 80's kanga from anaheim california. thinking of getting into the fursuit making scene, definately want to meet a few makers who can help give me a paw, give me suggestions on where to start and how to start. 
> 
> would also like to meet a few of the makers out there to see who all knows how to do animatronics, with the higher tech end of things. both for research and possible commission. 
> 
> anyway, wanted to say ello and whats up ^_^
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From chameleon264 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  1 15:37:12 2007
From: chameleon264 at yahoo.com (Black Foot)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:37:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: quick introduction
In-Reply-To: <28836593.1191267246943.JavaMail.root@web28>
Message-ID: <144973.43912.qm@web56915.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

then I do know you I also saw you at Anthrocon cuz when I saw you name I had to stop for a minute and think if it was who I thought it was and I was right.

Rainhopper <rainhopperroo at adelphia.net> wrote:  I was married to Pouchhopper before he passed away in may actually. 


---- Black Foot wrote: 
> hhhhhooowwwwwwwwwl there Rainhopper my name is Black Foot your name sounds familiar. I'm just curious weren't you related to Pouchhopper? if so then we have chatted before but if not then I would like to welcome you to this group and I do hope that you can get into fursuit making.
> 
> Rainhopper wrote: hello, how is everyone?
> 
> my name is Rainhopper, just a random 80's kanga from anaheim california. thinking of getting into the fursuit making scene, definately want to meet a few makers who can help give me a paw, give me suggestions on where to start and how to start. 
> 
> would also like to meet a few of the makers out there to see who all knows how to do animatronics, with the higher tech end of things. both for research and possible commission. 
> 
> anyway, wanted to say ello and whats up ^_^
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From marcwolf at marcwolf.org  Mon Oct  1 15:48:50 2007
From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (David Boccabella)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 05:48:50 +1000
Subject: FL: quick introduction
In-Reply-To: <2511275.1191266268831.JavaMail.root@web28>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIOEOFEPAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>

Hi Rainhopper

I'm Marcwolf and I believer you are coming to Australia in a little while
(I'm up in Brisbane)
I have a keen interest in animatronics and am currently working on a servo
drived wagging tail :>
Drop me a line


Marcwolf

> -----Original Message-----
> From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
> [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of Rainhopper
> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 05:18
> To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org
> Subject: FL: quick introduction
>
>
> hello, how is everyone?
>
> my name is Rainhopper, just a random 80's kanga from anaheim
> california. thinking of getting into the fursuit making scene,
> definately want to meet a few makers who can help give me a paw,
> give me suggestions on where to start and how to start.
>
> would also like to meet a few of the makers out there to see who
> all knows how to do animatronics, with the higher tech end of
> things. both for research and possible commission.
>
> anyway, wanted to say ello and whats up ^_^
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From rainhopperroo at adelphia.net  Mon Oct  1 16:09:51 2007
From: rainhopperroo at adelphia.net (Rainhopper)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 13:09:51 -0700
Subject: FL: quick introduction
Message-ID: <12841454.1191269391558.JavaMail.root@web28>

nice =) and yes definately, in march or april, the kangaroo is bouncing to a new continent. its going to be interesting explaining to the ozfurs that while I'm a kangaroo, I'm not an aussie roo ;P
---- David Boccabella <marcwolf at marcwolf.org> wrote: 
> Hi Rainhopper
> 
> I'm Marcwolf and I believer you are coming to Australia in a little while
> (I'm up in Brisbane)
> I have a keen interest in animatronics and am currently working on a servo
> drived wagging tail :>
> Drop me a line
> 
> 
> Marcwolf
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
> > [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of Rainhopper
> > Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 05:18
> > To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org
> > Subject: FL: quick introduction
> >
> >
> > hello, how is everyone?
> >
> > my name is Rainhopper, just a random 80's kanga from anaheim
> > california. thinking of getting into the fursuit making scene,
> > definately want to meet a few makers who can help give me a paw,
> > give me suggestions on where to start and how to start.
> >
> > would also like to meet a few of the makers out there to see who
> > all knows how to do animatronics, with the higher tech end of
> > things. both for research and possible commission.
> >
> > anyway, wanted to say ello and whats up ^_^
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From th3ent at gmail.com  Mon Oct  1 18:28:36 2007
From: th3ent at gmail.com (Richard Oakley)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 18:28:36 -0400
Subject: FL: quick introduction
In-Reply-To: <12841454.1191269391558.JavaMail.root@web28>
References: <12841454.1191269391558.JavaMail.root@web28>
Message-ID: <4f492b3d0710011528o5dbf3193x5f71a0b18022f1f8@mail.gmail.com>

Hey there everyone, I just got added to the mailing list today! I wanted to
say hi and give a brief introduction of why I joined this list.

Two years ago, 10/17/05, I had the idea that I wanted to be a centaur for
Halloween. To make matters more difficult, with two weeks to complete this
project I decided I wanted the back legs to move the way a "real" centaurs
legs would (back left follows front right, back right follows front left).

Fast Forward 1.9 weeks, October 30th, 11pm. I finished the frame out of
copper tube and couplings/t-joints, had re-created all the joints out of
hinges and springs, and sat staring at the finished frame. Needless to say
the fur-suit that would encompass the frame and myself was whipped together
so fast it looked absolutely horrible. I went to Salem, MA as Pan that year,
utilizing the fur legs and small leftover lengths of the copper tube to
create a pan-pipe.

The next year was very similar in time-line, but this time I gave myself
FOUR weeks, came up with a completely different "locomotion" design for the
back legs involving a large central wheel contained within the frame and
connections aimed at my legs, and the back legs. It worked, but again was
missing the realistic fur-suit and had some minor design flaws. This year I
was batman for Halloween, with the centaur frame and suit laying in my
closet.

Staying true to form, this year, Halloween Season 07, I again doubled the
time to prepare giving myself EIGHT weeks. This year, I utilized a 2-axle, 1
driveshaft, gear driven system. The frame w/rotating assembly much resembles
that of a car. The rotating assembly and it's frame will be completed
tomorrow, and then the skeleton of the centaur and the fur-suit will be
completed in what's left of october!

PHEW, I hope you all didn't actually read all that. So do any of you have a
web-site/ftp-site/storage of any kind with pictures of the creation of
realistic looking fursuits? I would be very interested in such a site.

On 10/1/07, Rainhopper <rainhopperroo at adelphia.net> wrote:
>
> nice =) and yes definately, in march or april, the kangaroo is bouncing to
> a new continent. its going to be interesting explaining to the ozfurs that
> while I'm a kangaroo, I'm not an aussie roo ;P
> ---- David Boccabella <marcwolf at marcwolf.org> wrote:
> > Hi Rainhopper
> >
> > I'm Marcwolf and I believer you are coming to Australia in a little
> while
> > (I'm up in Brisbane)
> > I have a keen interest in animatronics and am currently working on a
> servo
> > drived wagging tail :>
> > Drop me a line
> >
> >
> > Marcwolf
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
> > > [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of Rainhopper
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 05:18
> > > To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org
> > > Subject: FL: quick introduction
> > >
> > >
> > > hello, how is everyone?
> > >
> > > my name is Rainhopper, just a random 80's kanga from anaheim
> > > california. thinking of getting into the fursuit making scene,
> > > definately want to meet a few makers who can help give me a paw,
> > > give me suggestions on where to start and how to start.
> > >
> > > would also like to meet a few of the makers out there to see who
> > > all knows how to do animatronics, with the higher tech end of
> > > things. both for research and possible commission.
> > >
> > > anyway, wanted to say ello and whats up ^_^
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > _______________________________________________
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Mon Oct  1 22:02:11 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 19:02:11 -0700
Subject: FL: quick introduction
In-Reply-To: <4f492b3d0710011528o5dbf3193x5f71a0b18022f1f8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <12841454.1191269391558.JavaMail.root@web28>
	<4f492b3d0710011528o5dbf3193x5f71a0b18022f1f8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0710011902w18957da6w3eabd84d65b7dcfb@mail.gmail.com>

You might want to do what some furs do. Start working on your
holloween fursuit on november 1st.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 10/1/07, Richard Oakley <th3ent at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey there everyone, I just got added to the mailing list today! I wanted to
> say hi and give a brief introduction of why I joined this list.
>
> Two years ago, 10/17/05, I had the idea that I wanted to be a centaur for
> Halloween. To make matters more difficult, with two weeks to complete this
> project I decided I wanted the back legs to move the way a "real" centaurs
> legs would (back left follows front right, back right follows front left).
>
> Fast Forward 1.9 weeks, October 30th, 11pm. I finished the frame out of
> copper tube and couplings/t-joints, had re-created all the joints out of
> hinges and springs, and sat staring at the finished frame. Needless to say
> the fur-suit that would encompass the frame and myself was whipped together
> so fast it looked absolutely horrible. I went to Salem, MA as Pan that year,
> utilizing the fur legs and small leftover lengths of the copper tube to
> create a pan-pipe.
>
> The next year was very similar in time-line, but this time I gave myself
> FOUR weeks, came up with a completely different "locomotion" design for the
> back legs involving a large central wheel contained within the frame and
> connections aimed at my legs, and the back legs. It worked, but again was
> missing the realistic fur-suit and had some minor design flaws. This year I
> was batman for Halloween, with the centaur frame and suit laying in my
> closet.
>
> Staying true to form, this year, Halloween Season 07, I again doubled the
> time to prepare giving myself EIGHT weeks. This year, I utilized a 2-axle, 1
> driveshaft, gear driven system. The frame w/rotating assembly much resembles
> that of a car. The rotating assembly and it's frame will be completed
> tomorrow, and then the skeleton of the centaur and the fur-suit will be
> completed in what's left of october!
>
> PHEW, I hope you all didn't actually read all that. So do any of you have a
> web-site/ftp-site/storage of any kind with pictures of the creation of
> realistic looking fursuits? I would be very interested in such a site.
>
>
> On 10/1/07, Rainhopper <rainhopperroo at adelphia.net> wrote:
> > nice =) and yes definately, in march or april, the kangaroo is bouncing to
> a new continent. its going to be interesting explaining to the ozfurs that
> while I'm a kangaroo, I'm not an aussie roo ;P
> > ---- David Boccabella < marcwolf at marcwolf.org> wrote:
> > > Hi Rainhopper
> > >
> > > I'm Marcwolf and I believer you are coming to Australia in a little
> while
> > > (I'm up in Brisbane)
> > > I have a keen interest in animatronics and am currently working on a
> servo
> > > drived wagging tail :>
> > > Drop me a line
> > >
> > >
> > > Marcwolf
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
> > > > [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org ]On
> Behalf Of Rainhopper
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 05:18
> > > > To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org
> > > > Subject: FL: quick introduction
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > hello, how is everyone?
> > > >
> > > > my name is Rainhopper, just a random 80's kanga from anaheim
> > > > california. thinking of getting into the fursuit making scene,
> > > > definately want to meet a few makers who can help give me a paw,
> > > > give me suggestions on where to start and how to start.
> > > >
> > > > would also like to meet a few of the makers out there to see who
> > > > all knows how to do animatronics, with the higher tech end of
> > > > things. both for research and possible commission.
> > > >
> > > > anyway, wanted to say ello and whats up ^_^
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Fursuit Mail list.
> > > > To edit your subscription, visit:
> > > >
> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
> > > >
> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > > > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.36/1041 - Release Date:
> > > > 01/10/2007 10:20
> > > >
> > > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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From streakthetiger at gmail.com  Mon Oct  1 23:53:37 2007
From: streakthetiger at gmail.com (Streak)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 20:53:37 -0700
Subject: FL: quick introduction
In-Reply-To: <22530152.1191266262622.JavaMail.root@web28>
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Hey! =^..^=

On 10/1/07, Rainhopper <rainhopperroo at adelphia.net> wrote:
>
> hello, how is everyone?
>
> my name is Rainhopper, just a random 80's kanga from anaheim california.
> thinking of getting into the fursuit making scene, definately want to meet a
> few makers who can help give me a paw, give me suggestions on where to start
> and how to start.
>
> would also like to meet a few of the makers out there to see who all knows
> how to do animatronics, with the higher tech end of things. both for
> research and possible commission.
>
> anyway, wanted to say ello and whats up ^_^
> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
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> To edit your subscription, visit:
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From treacle1690 at aol.com  Tue Oct  2 05:04:36 2007
From: treacle1690 at aol.com (treacle1690 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 05:04:36 -0400
Subject: FL: quick introduction
In-Reply-To: <144973.43912.qm@web56915.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8C9D2EA64404746-FF4-B71F@WEBMAIL-DF09.sysops.aol.com>

shut up


-----Original Message-----
From: Black Foot <chameleon264 at yahoo.com>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 8.37pm
Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction


then I do know you I also saw you at Anthrocon cuz when I saw you name I had to stop for a minute and think if it was who I thought it was and I was right.

Rainhopper <rainhopperroo at adelphia.net> wrote: 
I was married to Pouchhopper before he passed away in may actually. 


---- Black Foot wrote: 
> hhhhhooowwwwwwwwwl there Rainhopper my name is Black Foot your name sounds familiar. I'm just curious weren't you related to Pouchhopper? if so then we have chatted before but if not then I would like to welcome you to this group and I do hope that you can get into fursuit making.
> 
> Rainhopper wrote: hello, how is everyone?
> 
> my name is Rainhopper, just a random 80's kanga from anaheim california. thinking of getting into the fursuit making scene, definately want to meet a few makers who can help give me a paw, give me suggestions on where to start and how to start. 
> 
> would also like to meet a few of the makers out there to see who all knows how to do animatronics, with the higher tech end of things. both for research and possible commission. 
> 
> anyway, wanted to say ello and whats up ^_^
> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
> Fursuit Mail list.
> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
> 
> 
> 
> May The Paws Be With You
> Black Foot.
> 
> 
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Tue Oct  2 08:12:00 2007
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 08:12:00 -0400
Subject: FL: quick introduction
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0710011902w18957da6w3eabd84d65b7dcfb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <12841454.1191269391558.JavaMail.root@web28>
	<4f492b3d0710011528o5dbf3193x5f71a0b18022f1f8@mail.gmail.com>
	<d23d76ca0710011902w18957da6w3eabd84d65b7dcfb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BC57BFF2-3E41-4482-B345-8521A8ACDAAF@flyingfox.biz>

""""Donkey wrote: You might want to do what some furs do. Start  
working on your holloween fursuit on november 1st.""""

ROFL Amen!
I started Scape the very Monday after FWA!  -and I STILL have a few  
things to fix up lol

Scape

Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



On Oct 1, 2007, at 10:02 PM, Donkey wrote:

You might want to do what some furs do. Start working on your
holloween fursuit on november 1st.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 10/1/07, Richard Oakley <th3ent at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey there everyone, I just got added to the mailing list today! I  
> wanted to
> say hi and give a brief introduction of why I joined this list.
>
> Two years ago, 10/17/05, I had the idea that I wanted to be a  
> centaur for
> Halloween. To make matters more difficult, with two weeks to  
> complete this
> project I decided I wanted the back legs to move the way a "real"  
> centaurs
> legs would (back left follows front right, back right follows front  
> left).
>
> Fast Forward 1.9 weeks, October 30th, 11pm. I finished the frame  
> out of
> copper tube and couplings/t-joints, had re-created all the joints  
> out of
> hinges and springs, and sat staring at the finished frame. Needless  
> to say
> the fur-suit that would encompass the frame and myself was whipped  
> together
> so fast it looked absolutely horrible. I went to Salem, MA as Pan  
> that year,
> utilizing the fur legs and small leftover lengths of the copper  
> tube to
> create a pan-pipe.
>
> The next year was very similar in time-line, but this time I gave  
> myself
> FOUR weeks, came up with a completely different "locomotion" design  
> for the
> back legs involving a large central wheel contained within the  
> frame and
> connections aimed at my legs, and the back legs. It worked, but  
> again was
> missing the realistic fur-suit and had some minor design flaws.  
> This year I
> was batman for Halloween, with the centaur frame and suit laying in my
> closet.
>
> Staying true to form, this year, Halloween Season 07, I again  
> doubled the
> time to prepare giving myself EIGHT weeks. This year, I utilized a  
> 2-axle, 1
> driveshaft, gear driven system. The frame w/rotating assembly much  
> resembles
> that of a car. The rotating assembly and it's frame will be completed
> tomorrow, and then the skeleton of the centaur and the fur-suit  
> will be
> completed in what's left of october!
>
> PHEW, I hope you all didn't actually read all that. So do any of  
> you have a
> web-site/ftp-site/storage of any kind with pictures of the creation of
> realistic looking fursuits? I would be very interested in such a site.
>
>
> On 10/1/07, Rainhopper <rainhopperroo at adelphia.net> wrote:
>> nice =) and yes definately, in march or april, the kangaroo is  
>> bouncing to
> a new continent. its going to be interesting explaining to the  
> ozfurs that
> while I'm a kangaroo, I'm not an aussie roo ;P
>> ---- David Boccabella < marcwolf at marcwolf.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Rainhopper
>>>
>>> I'm Marcwolf and I believer you are coming to Australia in a little
> while
>>> (I'm up in Brisbane)
>>> I have a keen interest in animatronics and am currently working on a
> servo
>>> drived wagging tail :>
>>> Drop me a line
>>>
>>>
>>> Marcwolf
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
>>>> [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org ]On
> Behalf Of Rainhopper
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 05:18
>>>> To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org
>>>> Subject: FL: quick introduction
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> hello, how is everyone?
>>>>
>>>> my name is Rainhopper, just a random 80's kanga from anaheim
>>>> california. thinking of getting into the fursuit making scene,
>>>> definately want to meet a few makers who can help give me a paw,
>>>> give me suggestions on where to start and how to start.
>>>>
>>>> would also like to meet a few of the makers out there to see who
>>>> all knows how to do animatronics, with the higher tech end of
>>>> things. both for research and possible commission.
>>>>
>>>> anyway, wanted to say ello and whats up ^_^
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Fursuit Mail list.
>>>> To edit your subscription, visit:
>>>>
> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
>>>>
>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>>>> Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.36/1041 - Release Date:
>>>> 01/10/2007 10:20
>>>>
>>> No virus found in this outgoing message.
>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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> 01/10/2007
>>> 10:20
>>>
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From monkaya_blue_wolf at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  2 13:19:51 2007
From: monkaya_blue_wolf at yahoo.com (Karknak)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 10:19:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: quick introduction
In-Reply-To: <4f492b3d0710011528o5dbf3193x5f71a0b18022f1f8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <666315.3891.qm@web55910.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

		   __
	centaur	||/  \
	Karknak	\\|  P
		 \_ |
	 _ _______/ /
	/ /	 |__\
	| |  )___O^^|*
	| | /     | |
	| \ \     \ \
	|// /     / /
          \_\     \_\

	Hel-gro, Richard Oakley and other Fursuiters!
	_____________
	- Centaurs: -
	^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	-- RICHARD:  ....  wanted to be a centaur

	They can be fun!  Not just for Halloween, but for
summer ren(esance) fairs too!
	____
	^^^^
	-- RICHARD:  ....  rotating assembly and it's frame

	Great idea!  Likely much more workable than my tail
end mechanical arrangement!
	____
	^^^^
	-- RICHARD:  ....  any of you have a web-site

	Do include
hooves at groups.yahoo.com
	Many in this group are constructing centurs and are
sharing intriguing ungulagrade (hooved) construction
ideas.  Includes a great PHOTO ALBUM gallery!!
	____
	^^^^
	-- RICHARD:  ....  hope you all didn't actually read
all that

	I found thy technical detail stimulating and hope to,
at least, approach the operational sucess ye hame!

	Welcome to Fursuit.org!!  

		   __
	centaur	||/  \
	Karknak	\\|  P
		 \_ |
	 _ _______/ /
	/ /	 |__\
	| |  )___O^^|*
	| | /     | |
	| \ \     \ \
	|// /     / /
          \_\     \_\
	
	'Monkaya's Gallery'

http://www.geocities.com/monkayawerewolf/Wolf_Main_Frame.htm



       
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From Rbbrmnky966 at aol.com  Tue Oct  2 18:29:56 2007
From: Rbbrmnky966 at aol.com (Rbbrmnky966 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 18:29:56 EDT
Subject: FL: quick introduction
Message-ID: <bfc.1ebdb96a.34342064@aol.com>

 
This was not very nice.
 
In a message dated 10/2/2007 5:05:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
treacle1690 at aol.com writes:

shut  up


-----Original Message-----
From: Black Foot  <chameleon264 at yahoo.com>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent:  Mon, 1 Oct 2007 8.37pm
Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction

then I do know you I  also saw you at Anthrocon cuz when I saw you name I had 
to stop for a minute  and think if it was who I thought it was and I was  
right.

Rainhopper <_rainhopperroo at adelphia.net_ (mailto:rainhopperroo at adelphia.net) 
>  wrote:  
I  was married to Pouchhopper before he passed away in may actually.  


---- Black Foot wrote: 
> hhhhhooowwwwwwwwwl there  Rainhopper my name is Black Foot your name sounds 
familiar. I'm just curious  weren't you related to Pouchhopper? if so then we 
have chatted before but if  not then I would like to welcome you to this 
group and I do hope that you  can get into fursuit making.
> 
> Rainhopper wrote: hello, how  is everyone?
> 
> my name is Rainhopper, just a random 80's  kanga from anaheim california. 
thinking of getting into the fursuit making  scene, definately want to meet a 
few makers who can help give me a paw, give  me suggestions on where to start 
and how to start. 
> 
> would  also like to meet a few of the makers out there to see who all knows 
how to  do animatronics, with the higher tech end of things. both for 
research and  possible commission. 
> 
> anyway, wanted to say ello and whats  up ^_^
> _______________________________________________
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>  
> 
> 
> May The Paws Be With You
> Black  Foot.
> 
> 
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From rainhopperroo at adelphia.net  Tue Oct  2 18:48:55 2007
From: rainhopperroo at adelphia.net (Rainhopper)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:48:55 -0700
Subject: FL: quick introduction
Message-ID: <16654034.1191365335408.JavaMail.root@web36>

calm down fuzzies  =) lets not welcome the new guy by biting tails off =)

I hear this place is a good spot to find other fursuit makers possibly locally, be that true?
---- Rbbrmnky966 at aol.com wrote: 
>  
> This was not very nice.
>  
> In a message dated 10/2/2007 5:05:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> treacle1690 at aol.com writes:
> 
> shut  up
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Black Foot  <chameleon264 at yahoo.com>
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Sent:  Mon, 1 Oct 2007 8.37pm
> Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction
> 
> then I do know you I  also saw you at Anthrocon cuz when I saw you name I had 
> to stop for a minute  and think if it was who I thought it was and I was  
> right.
> 
> Rainhopper <_rainhopperroo at adelphia.net_ (mailto:rainhopperroo at adelphia.net) 
> >  wrote:  
> I  was married to Pouchhopper before he passed away in may actually.  
> 
> 
> ---- Black Foot wrote: 
> > hhhhhooowwwwwwwwwl there  Rainhopper my name is Black Foot your name sounds 
> familiar. I'm just curious  weren't you related to Pouchhopper? if so then we 
> have chatted before but if  not then I would like to welcome you to this 
> group and I do hope that you  can get into fursuit making.
> > 
> > Rainhopper wrote: hello, how  is everyone?
> > 
> > my name is Rainhopper, just a random 80's  kanga from anaheim california. 
> thinking of getting into the fursuit making  scene, definately want to meet a 
> few makers who can help give me a paw, give  me suggestions on where to start 
> and how to start. 
> > 
> > would  also like to meet a few of the makers out there to see who all knows 
> how to  do animatronics, with the higher tech end of things. both for 
> research and  possible commission. 
> > 
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Tue Oct  2 23:32:31 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:32:31 -0700
Subject: FL: quick introduction
In-Reply-To: <16654034.1191365335408.JavaMail.root@web36>
References: <16654034.1191365335408.JavaMail.root@web36>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0710022032u43200d08kc10e5572f84dec1@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/2/07, Rainhopper <rainhopperroo at adelphia.net> wrote:
> calm down fuzzies  =) lets not welcome the new guy by biting tails off =)
>
> I hear this place is a good spot to find other fursuit makers possibly locally, be that true?

Yes it could be true. The bigger the city you live in. The better
chance there is someone there that also makes fursuits. It worked for
me four years ago..

Donkey

From rainhopperroo at adelphia.net  Tue Oct  2 23:49:53 2007
From: rainhopperroo at adelphia.net (Rainhopper)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 23:49:53 -0400
Subject: FL: quick introduction
References: <16654034.1191365335408.JavaMail.root@web36>
	<d23d76ca0710022032u43200d08kc10e5572f84dec1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001501c80570$75552710$6501a8c0@miksmithlap1>

*bops a donkey*

you know I live with in driving distance of LA =P

here have a carrot ^_^
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donkey" <donkeyears at gmail.com>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction


> On 10/2/07, Rainhopper <rainhopperroo at adelphia.net> wrote:
>> calm down fuzzies  =) lets not welcome the new guy by biting tails off =)
>>
>> I hear this place is a good spot to find other fursuit makers possibly 
>> locally, be that true?
>
> Yes it could be true. The bigger the city you live in. The better
> chance there is someone there that also makes fursuits. It worked for
> me four years ago..
>
> Donkey
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Wed Oct  3 00:00:40 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 21:00:40 -0700
Subject: FL: quick introduction
In-Reply-To: <001501c80570$75552710$6501a8c0@miksmithlap1>
References: <16654034.1191365335408.JavaMail.root@web36>
	<d23d76ca0710022032u43200d08kc10e5572f84dec1@mail.gmail.com>
	<001501c80570$75552710$6501a8c0@miksmithlap1>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0710022100i167d984dg571b4268483b942d@mail.gmail.com>

I responded to the message with out looking at who posted it.
You know I dont like being boped! I like being feed carrets a lot
better. hint. Hint! HINT!!!

His Most Royally carret loving Highass, Donkey

On 10/2/07, Rainhopper <rainhopperroo at adelphia.net> wrote:
> *bops a donkey*
>
> you know I live with in driving distance of LA =P
>
> here have a carrot ^_^
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donkey" <donkeyears at gmail.com>
> To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:32 PM
> Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction
>
>
> > On 10/2/07, Rainhopper <rainhopperroo at adelphia.net> wrote:
> >> calm down fuzzies  =) lets not welcome the new guy by biting tails off =)
> >>
> >> I hear this place is a good spot to find other fursuit makers possibly
> >> locally, be that true?
> >
> > Yes it could be true. The bigger the city you live in. The better
> > chance there is someone there that also makes fursuits. It worked for
> > me four years ago..
> >
> > Donkey

From jpa2blue at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  3 00:36:50 2007
From: jpa2blue at yahoo.com (John Arroyo)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 21:36:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: quick introduction
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0710022100i167d984dg571b4268483b942d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <500036.183.qm@web35307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

With all this mayhem, I fear getting in the middle! Well, I figure I better formally introduce myself. My name is J2, my newly founded furry name....Fox Tails. "Fox" because I find them cool, and I am quiet and a little bit of a lone wolf. Although I am more like a wolf, I am small....20 years, 5'5 1/2". Although I act like an adult, I look like a kid. "Tails" because I find Miles Tails from Sonic the Hedgehog to be cool. I am currently waiting to have my Fox Tails furry suit made for me. I live in the Southern California area, L.A. County. You can see who I am by checking my yahoo360 account and looking for J2. J2 out.....oh wait! Fox Tials out!

Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:  I responded to the message with out looking at who posted it.
You know I dont like being boped! I like being feed carrets a lot
better. hint. Hint! HINT!!!

His Most Royally carret loving Highass, Donkey

On 10/2/07, Rainhopper wrote:
> *bops a donkey*
>
> you know I live with in driving distance of LA =P
>
> here have a carrot ^_^
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donkey" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:32 PM
> Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction
>
>
> > On 10/2/07, Rainhopper wrote:
> >> calm down fuzzies =) lets not welcome the new guy by biting tails off =)
> >>
> >> I hear this place is a good spot to find other fursuit makers possibly
> >> locally, be that true?
> >
> > Yes it could be true. The bigger the city you live in. The better
> > chance there is someone there that also makes fursuits. It worked for
> > me four years ago..
> >
> > Donkey
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From rainhopperroo at adelphia.net  Wed Oct  3 01:31:20 2007
From: rainhopperroo at adelphia.net (Rainhopper)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 01:31:20 -0400
Subject: FL: quick introduction
References: <500036.183.qm@web35307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002c01c8057e$a16ef200$6501a8c0@miksmithlap1>

its all mock battle =) ya havent jumped into the middle of anything evil or explosive just a bunch of us pokin at eachother, 

welcome to the list =)
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Arroyo 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:36 AM
  Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction


  With all this mayhem, I fear getting in the middle! Well, I figure I better formally introduce myself. My name is J2, my newly founded furry name....Fox Tails. "Fox" because I find them cool, and I am quiet and a little bit of a lone wolf. Although I am more like a wolf, I am small....20 years, 5'5 1/2". Although I act like an adult, I look like a kid. "Tails" because I find Miles Tails from Sonic the Hedgehog to be cool. I am currently waiting to have my Fox Tails furry suit made for me. I live in the Southern California area, L.A. County. You can see who I am by checking my yahoo360 account and looking for J2. J2 out.....oh wait! Fox Tials out!

  Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote: 
    I responded to the message with out looking at who posted it.
    You know I dont like being boped! I like being feed carrets a lot
    better. hint. Hint! HINT!!!

    His Most Royally carret loving Highass, Donkey

    On 10/2/07, Rainhopper wrote:
    > *bops a donkey*
    >
    > you know I live with in driving distance of LA =P
    >
    > here have a carrot ^_^
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Donkey" 
    > To: 
    > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:32 PM
    > Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction
    >
    >
    > > On 10/2/07, Rainhopper wrote:
    > >> calm down fuzzies =) lets not welcome the new guy by biting tails off =)
    > >>
    > >> I hear this place is a good spot to find other fursuit makers possibly
    > >> locally, be that true?
    > >
    > > Yes it could be true. The bigger the city you live in. The better
    > > chance there is someone there that also makes fursuits. It worked for
    > > me four years ago..
    > >
    > > Donkey
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From jpa2blue at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  3 02:34:51 2007
From: jpa2blue at yahoo.com (John Arroyo)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 23:34:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: quick introduction
In-Reply-To: <002c01c8057e$a16ef200$6501a8c0@miksmithlap1>
Message-ID: <371649.64322.qm@web35312.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Anybody happen to know any fur suit makers here in California??? What about clubs or get togethers? I know there is that Con-Fusion thing further up north...but is thier anything near Anaheim or Los Angeles??? I want to start close.

Rainhopper <rainhopperroo at adelphia.net> wrote:          its all mock battle =) ya havent jumped into the middle of anything evil or explosive just a bunch of us pokin at eachother, 
   
  welcome to the list =)
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Arroyo 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:36 AM
  Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction
  

With all this mayhem, I fear getting in the middle! Well, I figure I better formally introduce myself. My name is J2, my newly founded furry name....Fox Tails. "Fox" because I find them cool, and I am quiet and a little bit of a lone wolf. Although I am more like a wolf, I am small....20 years, 5'5 1/2". Although I act like an adult, I look like a kid. "Tails" because I find Miles Tails from Sonic the Hedgehog to be cool. I am currently waiting to have my Fox Tails furry suit made for me. I live in the Southern California area, L.A. County. You can see who I am by checking my yahoo360 account and looking for J2. J2 out.....oh wait! Fox Tials out!

Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:   I responded to the message with out looking at who posted it.
You know I dont like being boped! I like being feed carrets a lot
better. hint. Hint! HINT!!!

His Most Royally carret loving Highass, Donkey

On 10/2/07, Rainhopper wrote:
> *bops a donkey*
>
> you know I live with in driving distance of LA =P
>
> here have a carrot ^_^
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donkey" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:32 PM
> Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction
>
>
> > On 10/2/07, Rainhopper wrote:
> >> calm down fuzzies =) lets not welcome the new guy by biting tails off =)
> >>
> >> I hear this place is a good spot to find other fursuit makers possibly
> >> locally, be that true?
> >
> > Yes it could be true. The bigger the city you live in. The better
> > chance there is someone there that also makes fursuits. It worked for
> > me four years ago..
> >
> > Donkey
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From rainhopperroo at adelphia.net  Wed Oct  3 09:13:05 2007
From: rainhopperroo at adelphia.net (Rainhopper)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 09:13:05 -0400
Subject: FL: quick introduction
References: <371649.64322.qm@web35312.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001901c805bf$2338b330$6501a8c0@miksmithlap1>

I am in anheim =)
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Arroyo 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:34 AM
  Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction


  Anybody happen to know any fur suit makers here in California??? What about clubs or get togethers? I know there is that Con-Fusion thing further up north...but is thier anything near Anaheim or Los Angeles??? I want to start close.

  Rainhopper <rainhopperroo at adelphia.net> wrote: 
    its all mock battle =) ya havent jumped into the middle of anything evil or explosive just a bunch of us pokin at eachother, 

    welcome to the list =)
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: John Arroyo 
      To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
      Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:36 AM
      Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction


      With all this mayhem, I fear getting in the middle! Well, I figure I better formally introduce myself. My name is J2, my newly founded furry name....Fox Tails. "Fox" because I find them cool, and I am quiet and a little bit of a lone wolf. Although I am more like a wolf, I am small....20 years, 5'5 1/2". Although I act like an adult, I look like a kid. "Tails" because I find Miles Tails from Sonic the Hedgehog to be cool. I am currently waiting to have my Fox Tails furry suit made for me. I live in the Southern California area, L.A. County. You can see who I am by checking my yahoo360 account and looking for J2. J2 out.....oh wait! Fox Tials out!

      Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote: 
        I responded to the message with out looking at who posted it.
        You know I dont like being boped! I like being feed carrets a lot
        better. hint. Hint! HINT!!!

        His Most Royally carret loving Highass, Donkey

        On 10/2/07, Rainhopper wrote:
        > *bops a donkey*
        >
        > you know I live with in driving distance of LA =P
        >
        > here have a carrot ^_^
        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: "Donkey" 
        > To: 
        > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:32 PM
        > Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction
        >
        >
        > > On 10/2/07, Rainhopper wrote:
        > >> calm down fuzzies =) lets not welcome the new guy by biting tails off =)
        > >>
        > >> I hear this place is a good spot to find other fursuit makers possibly
        > >> locally, be that true?
        > >
        > > Yes it could be true. The bigger the city you live in. The better
        > > chance there is someone there that also makes fursuits. It worked for
        > > me four years ago..
        > >
        > > Donkey
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From D at rayzero.com  Wed Oct  3 11:38:54 2007
From: D at rayzero.com (ray)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 08:38:54 -0700
Subject: FL: quick introduction
References: <371649.64322.qm@web35312.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <001001c805d3$8346c230$0301a8c0@HANNAH>

I'm in Murreta! ^^ (though i'm not that good at fursut makeing yet!)

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rainhopper 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 6:13 AM
  Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction


  I am in anheim =)
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: John Arroyo 
    To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
    Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:34 AM
    Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction


    Anybody happen to know any fur suit makers here in California??? What about clubs or get togethers? I know there is that Con-Fusion thing further up north...but is thier anything near Anaheim or Los Angeles??? I want to start close.

    Rainhopper <rainhopperroo at adelphia.net> wrote: 
      its all mock battle =) ya havent jumped into the middle of anything evil or explosive just a bunch of us pokin at eachother, 

      welcome to the list =)
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: John Arroyo 
        To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
        Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:36 AM
        Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction


        With all this mayhem, I fear getting in the middle! Well, I figure I better formally introduce myself. My name is J2, my newly founded furry name....Fox Tails. "Fox" because I find them cool, and I am quiet and a little bit of a lone wolf. Although I am more like a wolf, I am small....20 years, 5'5 1/2". Although I act like an adult, I look like a kid. "Tails" because I find Miles Tails from Sonic the Hedgehog to be cool. I am currently waiting to have my Fox Tails furry suit made for me. I live in the Southern California area, L.A. County. You can see who I am by checking my yahoo360 account and looking for J2. J2 out.....oh wait! Fox Tials out!

        Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote: 
          I responded to the message with out looking at who posted it.
          You know I dont like being boped! I like being feed carrets a lot
          better. hint. Hint! HINT!!!

          His Most Royally carret loving Highass, Donkey

          On 10/2/07, Rainhopper wrote:
          > *bops a donkey*
          >
          > you know I live with in driving distance of LA =P
          >
          > here have a carrot ^_^
          > ----- Original Message -----
          > From: "Donkey" 
          > To: 
          > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:32 PM
          > Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction
          >
          >
          > > On 10/2/07, Rainhopper wrote:
          > >> calm down fuzzies =) lets not welcome the new guy by biting tails off =)
          > >>
          > >> I hear this place is a good spot to find other fursuit makers possibly
          > >> locally, be that true?
          > >
          > > Yes it could be true. The bigger the city you live in. The better
          > > chance there is someone there that also makes fursuits. It worked for
          > > me four years ago..
          > >
          > > Donkey
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From wallyfox98 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct  3 12:21:10 2007
From: wallyfox98 at hotmail.com (Wally_Wabbit/Stephen H./Wallyfox)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:21:10 -0400
Subject: FL: Furfright Fursuiter Feast!
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It was a tough decision and several factors came into play: votes, price, speed of service, wait times, and distance from the hotel.The Furfright Fursuiter Feast will be held at American Steakhouse 4 miles from the hotel. For those that are not familiar this restaurant is much like a Bonanza/Ponderosa.We will be meeting at 5pm in the main lobby of the hotel on Friday 10/19. From there we will carpool to the restaurant.If your planning to attend please send a private email to wallyfox98 at hotmail.com. I will need to know the following by Tuesday 10/16 (Restaurant would like an updated count 1-2 days prior):-Do you have your own transportation to the restaurant Yes or No?-If yes, would you be willing to carpool others? and how many can fit in your vehicle?Also note this restaurant is mainly buffet style and it requires all that are seated in the dining room to purchase a meal. A soda/glass of water may not cut it and meals range anywhere from $6.99 and up. Please have a peek at the menu before RSVP'ing: http://www.americansteakhouse.com/menu_waterbury.htmlFor those who would like to meet directly at the restaurant our reservation is set for 5:30PM and the address is below:American Steakhouse 



1011 Wolcott Rd. (Conn Rt 69)Waterbury, CT 06705 203-756-7529 http://www.americansteakhouse.com/locations.html(Restaurant is in the Price Chopper Plaza)
snugs
 
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From jpa2blue at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  3 12:22:28 2007
From: jpa2blue at yahoo.com (John Arroyo)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 09:22:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: quick introduction
In-Reply-To: <001001c805d3$8346c230$0301a8c0@HANNAH>
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Its good to know there are other fellow Furries close by. I wouldn't mind hangin out during conventions. But first things first, I need to get my suit done....I have been looking around to see who offers the cheapest best quality custom suits. Right now I am talking to the suit makers dragonsteel.com and some Noble Wolf guy.

ray <D at rayzero.com> wrote:      I'm in Murreta! ^^ (though i'm not that good at fursut makeing yet!)
   
  ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Rainhopper 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 6:13 AM
  Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction
  

  I am in anheim =)
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Arroyo 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:34 AM
  Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction
  

Anybody happen to know any fur suit makers here in California??? What about clubs or get togethers? I know there is that Con-Fusion thing further up north...but is thier anything near Anaheim or Los Angeles??? I want to start close.

Rainhopper <rainhopperroo at adelphia.net> wrote:           its all mock battle =) ya havent jumped into the middle of anything evil or explosive just a bunch of us pokin at eachother, 
   
  welcome to the list =)
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Arroyo 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:36 AM
  Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction
  

With all this mayhem, I fear getting in the middle! Well, I figure I better formally introduce myself. My name is J2, my newly founded furry name....Fox Tails. "Fox" because I find them cool, and I am quiet and a little bit of a lone wolf. Although I am more like a wolf, I am small....20 years, 5'5 1/2". Although I act like an adult, I look like a kid. "Tails" because I find Miles Tails from Sonic the Hedgehog to be cool. I am currently waiting to have my Fox Tails furry suit made for me. I live in the Southern California area, L.A. County. You can see who I am by checking my yahoo360 account and looking for J2. J2 out.....oh wait! Fox Tials out!

Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:   I responded to the message with out looking at who posted it.
You know I dont like being boped! I like being feed carrets a lot
better. hint. Hint! HINT!!!

His Most Royally carret loving Highass, Donkey

On 10/2/07, Rainhopper wrote:
> *bops a donkey*
>
> you know I live with in driving distance of LA =P
>
> here have a carrot ^_^
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donkey" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:32 PM
> Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction
>
>
> > On 10/2/07, Rainhopper wrote:
> >> calm down fuzzies =) lets not welcome the new guy by biting tails off =)
> >>
> >> I hear this place is a good spot to find other fursuit makers possibly
> >> locally, be that true?
> >
> > Yes it could be true. The bigger the city you live in. The better
> > chance there is someone there that also makes fursuits. It worked for
> > me four years ago..
> >
> > Donkey
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From wallyfox98 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct  3 18:11:50 2007
From: wallyfox98 at hotmail.com (Wally_Wabbit/Stephen H./Wallyfox)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 18:11:50 -0400
Subject: FL: Furfright Fursuiter Feast-Clarification
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I forgot to mention:
 
This is an "out of suit" event for those who enjoy fursuiting and would like to socialize with other suiters! It has been done at past cons such as AC.
 
snugs
 
W_W


From: wallyfox98 at hotmail.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org; nefur at rut.org; newenglandfurs at yahoogroups.com; newenglandfurs_announce at yahoogroups.com; hudsonfur at catbox.com; ctfurs at yahoogroups.com; furfright at yahoogroups.comSubject: HF: Furfright Fursuiter Feast!Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:21:10 -0400


It was a tough decision and several factors came into play: votes, price, speed of service, wait times, and distance from the hotel.The Furfright Fursuiter Feast will be held at American Steakhouse 4 miles from the hotel. For those that are not familiar this restaurant is much like a Bonanza/Ponderosa.We will be meeting at 5pm in the main lobby of the hotel on Friday 10/19. From there we will carpool to the restaurant.If your planning to attend please send a private email to wallyfox98 at hotmail.com. I will need to know the following by Tuesday 10/16 (Restaurant would like an updated count 1-2 days prior):-Do you have your own transportation to the restaurant Yes or No?-If yes, would you be willing to carpool others? and how many can fit in your vehicle?Also note this restaurant is mainly buffet style and it requires all that are seated in the dining room to purchase a meal. A soda/glass of water may not cut it and meals range anywhere from $6.99 and up. Please have a peek at the menu before RSVP'ing: http://www.americansteakhouse.com/menu_waterbury.htmlFor those who would like to meet directly at the restaurant our reservation is set for 5:30PM and the address is below:American Steakhouse 



1011 Wolcott Rd. (Conn Rt 69)Waterbury, CT 06705 203-756-7529 http://www.americansteakhouse.com/locations.html(Restaurant is in the Price Chopper Plaza)snugs Wally_WabbitICQ=86653793 Wally_Wabbit on Furrymuck and Tapestries Wally_Wabbit on IRC/Yiffnet/Anthrochatwallyfox2001 on yahoo messengerhttp://www.livejournal.com/users/wally_wabbit/

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From c.lupus.arctos at hotmail.com  Wed Oct  3 19:59:59 2007
From: c.lupus.arctos at hotmail.com (Alex Huitric)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 23:59:59 +0000
Subject: FL: quick introduction
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I guess now is as good of a time as ever to introduce myself. My generally used nickname for all purposes- C.Lupus (that is the species name for wolves so it's fairly obvious who and what I am)
It's nice to know so many of us are in the southern california la county area. (not that I like it here- it's way to hot for my tastes- I always run up a huge A/C bill)
In my small city I know of one other furry, but he doesn't make any suits, though he was looking into buying one.
I've been at work for the last 4 months- planning(not to mention having over 10 other long term projects). I've bought a few materials but... I'll get around to making up my mind on a design soon (hopefully)!


Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 09:22:28 -0700From: jpa2blue at yahoo.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: quick introductionIts good to know there are other fellow Furries close by. I wouldn't mind hangin out during conventions. But first things first, I need to get my suit done....I have been looking around to see who offers the cheapest best quality custom suits. Right now I am talking to the suit makers dragonsteel.com and some Noble Wolf guy.ray <D at rayzero.com> wrote: 

I'm in Murreta! ^^ (though i'm not that good at fursut makeing yet!)
 
----- Original Message ----- 

From: Rainhopper 
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 6:13 AM
Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction

I am in anheim =)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: John Arroyo 
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:34 AM
Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction
Anybody happen to know any fur suit makers here in California??? What about clubs or get togethers? I know there is that Con-Fusion thing further up north...but is thier anything near Anaheim or Los Angeles??? I want to start close.Rainhopper <rainhopperroo at adelphia.net> wrote: 



its all mock battle =) ya havent jumped into the middle of anything evil or explosive just a bunch of us pokin at eachother, 
 
welcome to the list =)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: John Arroyo 
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction
With all this mayhem, I fear getting in the middle! Well, I figure I better formally introduce myself. My name is J2, my newly founded furry name....Fox Tails. "Fox" because I find them cool, and I am quiet and a little bit of a lone wolf. Although I am more like a wolf, I am small....20 years, 5'5 1/2". Although I act like an adult, I look like a kid. "Tails" because I find Miles Tails from Sonic the Hedgehog to be cool. I am currently waiting to have my Fox Tails furry suit made for me. I live in the Southern California area, L.A. County. You can see who I am by checking my yahoo360 account and looking for J2. J2 out.....oh wait! Fox Tials out!Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote: 
I responded to the message with out looking at who posted it.You know I dont like being boped! I like being feed carrets a lotbetter. hint. Hint! HINT!!!His Most Royally carret loving Highass, DonkeyOn 10/2/07, Rainhopper wrote:> *bops a donkey*>> you know I live with in driving distance of LA =P>> here have a carrot ^_^> ----- Original Message -----> From: "Donkey" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:32 PM> Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction>>> > On 10/2/07, Rainhopper wrote:> >> calm down fuzzies =) lets not welcome the new guy by biting tails off =)> >>> >> I hear this place is a good spot to find other fursuit makers possibly> >> locally, be that true?> >> > Yes it could be true. The bigger the city you live in. The better> > chance there is someone there that also makes fursuits. It worked for> > me four years ago..> >> > Donkey______________________________________________________________________________________________Fursuit Mail list.To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list


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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Thu Oct  4 06:51:19 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 03:51:19 -0700
Subject: FL: quick introduction
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I don't mind being poked at, but be careful if you have non retractable claws.

Donkey

On 10/2/07, Rainhopper <rainhopperroo at adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>
> its all mock battle =) ya havent jumped into the middle of anything evil or
> explosive just a bunch of us pokin at eachother,
>
> welcome to the list =)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Arroyo
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:36 AM
> Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction
>
> With all this mayhem, I fear getting in the middle! Well, I figure I better
> formally introduce myself. My name is J2, my newly founded furry name....Fox
> Tails. "Fox" because I find them cool, and I am quiet and a little bit of a
> lone wolf. Although I am more like a wolf, I am small....20 years, 5'5 1/2".
> Although I act like an adult, I look like a kid. "Tails" because I find
> Miles Tails from Sonic the Hedgehog to be cool. I am currently waiting to
> have my Fox Tails furry suit made for me. I live in the Southern California
> area, L.A. County. You can see who I am by checking my yahoo360 account and
> looking for J2. J2 out.....oh wait! Fox Tials out!
>
> Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
> I responded to the message with out looking at who posted it.
> You know I dont like being boped! I like being feed carrets a lot
> better. hint. Hint! HINT!!!
>
> His Most Royally carret loving Highass, Donkey
>
> On 10/2/07, Rainhopper wrote:
> > *bops a donkey*
> >
> > you know I live with in driving distance of LA =P
> >
> > here have a carrot ^_^
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Donkey"
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction
> >
> >
> > > On 10/2/07, Rainhopper wrote:
> > >> calm down fuzzies =) lets not welcome the new guy by biting tails off
> =)
> > >>
> > >> I hear this place is a good spot to find other fursuit makers possibly
> > >> locally, be that true?
> > >
> > > Yes it could be true. The bigger the city you live in. The better
> > > chance there is someone there that also makes fursuits. It worked for
> > > me four years ago..
> > >
> > > Donkey
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Thu Oct  4 06:57:19 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 03:57:19 -0700
Subject: FL: quick introduction
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There is a yahoo group for SoCalFurs to get together.
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SoCalFursuiters/

Donkey

On 10/2/07, John Arroyo <jpa2blue at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Anybody happen to know any fur suit makers here in California??? What about
> clubs or get togethers? I know there is that Con-Fusion thing further up
> north...but is thier anything near Anaheim or Los Angeles??? I want to start
> close.
>
> Rainhopper <rainhopperroo at adelphia.net> wrote:
>
> its all mock battle =) ya havent jumped into the middle of anything evil or
> explosive just a bunch of us pokin at eachother,
>
> welcome to the list =)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Arroyo
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:36 AM
> Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction
>
> With all this mayhem, I fear getting in the middle! Well, I figure I better
> formally introduce myself. My name is J2, my newly founded furry name....Fox
> Tails. "Fox" because I find them cool, and I am quiet and a little bit of a
> lone wolf. Although I am more like a wolf, I am small....20 years, 5'5 1/2".
> Although I act like an adult, I look like a kid. "Tails" because I find
> Miles Tails from Sonic the Hedgehog to be cool. I am currently waiting to
> have my Fox Tails furry suit made for me. I live in the Southern California
> area, L.A. County. You can see who I am by checking my yahoo360 account and
> looking for J2. J2 out.....oh wait! Fox Tials out!
>
> Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
> I responded to the message with out looking at who posted it.
> You know I dont like being boped! I like being feed carrets a lot
> better. hint. Hint! HINT!!!
>
> His Most Royally carret loving Highass, Donkey
>
> On 10/2/07, Rainhopper wrote:
> > *bops a donkey*
> >
> > you know I live with in driving distance of LA =P
> >
> > here have a carrot ^_^
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Donkey"
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction
> >
> >
> > > On 10/2/07, Rainhopper wrote:
> > >> calm down fuzzies =) lets not welcome the new guy by biting tails off
> =)
> > >>
> > >> I hear this place is a good spot to find other fursuit makers possibly
> > >> locally, be that true?
> > >
> > > Yes it could be true. The bigger the city you live in. The better
> > > chance there is someone there that also makes fursuits. It worked for
> > > me four years ago..
> > >
> > > Donkey
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From jpa2blue at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  4 11:54:39 2007
From: jpa2blue at yahoo.com (John Arroyo)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:54:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: quick introduction
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Just joined! Or more like applied for the group. I have noticed that most fur suit makers charge the same per suit; usually $1500+ USD per suit. It may be a while before I can gain that kind of spending $$$. I should have it by the end of this year....hopefully, so that I can wear my Fox Tails suit for next years Halloween....shoot....maybe even before that!!!

Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:  There is a yahoo group for SoCalFurs to get together.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SoCalFursuiters/

Donkey

On 10/2/07, John Arroyo wrote:
> Anybody happen to know any fur suit makers here in California??? What about
> clubs or get togethers? I know there is that Con-Fusion thing further up
> north...but is thier anything near Anaheim or Los Angeles??? I want to start
> close.
>
> Rainhopper wrote:
>
> its all mock battle =) ya havent jumped into the middle of anything evil or
> explosive just a bunch of us pokin at eachother,
>
> welcome to the list =)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Arroyo
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:36 AM
> Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction
>
> With all this mayhem, I fear getting in the middle! Well, I figure I better
> formally introduce myself. My name is J2, my newly founded furry name....Fox
> Tails. "Fox" because I find them cool, and I am quiet and a little bit of a
> lone wolf. Although I am more like a wolf, I am small....20 years, 5'5 1/2".
> Although I act like an adult, I look like a kid. "Tails" because I find
> Miles Tails from Sonic the Hedgehog to be cool. I am currently waiting to
> have my Fox Tails furry suit made for me. I live in the Southern California
> area, L.A. County. You can see who I am by checking my yahoo360 account and
> looking for J2. J2 out.....oh wait! Fox Tials out!
>
> Donkey wrote:
> I responded to the message with out looking at who posted it.
> You know I dont like being boped! I like being feed carrets a lot
> better. hint. Hint! HINT!!!
>
> His Most Royally carret loving Highass, Donkey
>
> On 10/2/07, Rainhopper wrote:
> > *bops a donkey*
> >
> > you know I live with in driving distance of LA =P
> >
> > here have a carrot ^_^
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Donkey"
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction
> >
> >
> > > On 10/2/07, Rainhopper wrote:
> > >> calm down fuzzies =) lets not welcome the new guy by biting tails off
> =)
> > >>
> > >> I hear this place is a good spot to find other fursuit makers possibly
> > >> locally, be that true?
> > >
> > > Yes it could be true. The bigger the city you live in. The better
> > > chance there is someone there that also makes fursuits. It worked for
> > > me four years ago..
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Thu Oct  4 20:03:39 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:03:39 -0700
Subject: FL: quick introduction
In-Reply-To: <175976.93805.qm@web35307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <d23d76ca0710040357u55fead8cgece988774ec206b4@mail.gmail.com>
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$1500 Who is undercutting the going fursuit prices? If you can find one that
cheep I would say go for it! A lot of fursuits run more than that just in
the cost of the supplies to make it.

Donkey

On 10/4/07, John Arroyo <jpa2blue at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Just joined! Or more like applied for the group. I have noticed that most
> fur suit makers charge the same per suit; usually $1500+ USD per suit. It
> may be a while before I can gain that kind of spending $$$. I should have it
> by the end of this year....hopefully, so that I can wear my Fox Tails suit
> for next years Halloween....shoot....maybe even before that!!!
>
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From game_wagon at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  4 20:39:56 2007
From: game_wagon at yahoo.com (D'Lorn)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:39:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: quick introduction
Message-ID: <107443.67147.qm@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

*test?* Never posted, bear with me.

I have had better luck with new fursuit creators.  I scouted out for a good few months for folks that needed practice.  Found one that would work for just material costs, and didn't even attempt that (wanted someone with 'some!' experience)

Ended up ^by chance^ meeting an awesome guy at AC and he gave me a premium price of 800.  For a full suit mind, with special work on my ears.. and a movable jaw.  I think he should have charged more if the going price seems to be 1500???

Then again though.. I would have never bought it, would have got the materials and half a'ed it myself ya know?

Mattering on Materials ya, it would cost alot more if you did something really special.  I just had faux fur 13 bucks a yard for it, and a foam based head.  I'd say 1000 is good for a suit like that, any extras... ooh yea charge extra :D


From the soon to be crafter of 2008,

Dlorn

----- Original Message ----
From: Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2007 7:03:39 PM
Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction

$1500 Who is undercutting the going fursuit prices? If you can find one
that cheep I would say go for it! A lot of fursuits run more than that
just in the cost of the supplies to make it.



Donkey

On 10/4/07, John Arroyo <jpa2blue at yahoo.com> wrote:
Just joined! Or more like applied for the group. I have
noticed that most fur suit makers charge the same per suit; usually
$1500+ USD per suit. It may be a while before I can gain that kind of
spending $$$. I should have it by the end of this year....hopefully, so
that I can wear my Fox Tails suit for next years
Halloween....shoot....maybe even before that!!!












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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Thu Oct  4 23:34:19 2007
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 23:34:19 -0400
Subject: FL: quick introduction
In-Reply-To: <107443.67147.qm@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <107443.67147.qm@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Joecifur is an awesome suit maker, his prices are lower than 1500
dollars, they are about 1300 I think.  His suits are really really
awesome, I am going to be getting a husky suit from him in not too
long I think.  =^_^=  I don't know if I'll ever use another suit
maker.

-Foxwolf 9-Tails

From donkeyears at gmail.com  Fri Oct  5 10:22:30 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 07:22:30 -0700
Subject: FL: quick introduction
In-Reply-To: <577261b40710042034i30e36294o9fd42cfed07cf194@mail.gmail.com>
References: <107443.67147.qm@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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If you know a good suit maker go fo it. If the price is low its even better.

Donkey

On 10/4/07, Foxwolf 9-Tails <foxwolfac at gmail.com> wrote:
> Joecifur is an awesome suit maker, his prices are lower than 1500
> dollars, they are about 1300 I think.  His suits are really really
> awesome, I am going to be getting a husky suit from him in not too
> long I think.  =^_^=  I don't know if I'll ever use another suit
> maker.
>
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From jpa2blue at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  5 13:55:14 2007
From: jpa2blue at yahoo.com (John Arroyo)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 10:55:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: quick introduction
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0710050722s4ad77923s4d7a7c2cce4215df@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <985956.90821.qm@web35311.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Do you have a web adress to Joecifur??? $1300 is still better than $1500! That leaves me with enough $$$ to buy another MP3 player , or even almost enough to get new rims on my truck  !

Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:  If you know a good suit maker go fo it. If the price is low its even better.

Donkey

On 10/4/07, Foxwolf 9-Tails wrote:
> Joecifur is an awesome suit maker, his prices are lower than 1500
> dollars, they are about 1300 I think. His suits are really really
> awesome, I am going to be getting a husky suit from him in not too
> long I think. =^_^= I don't know if I'll ever use another suit
> maker.
>
> -Foxwolf 9-Tails
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From jpa2blue at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  5 14:00:22 2007
From: jpa2blue at yahoo.com (John Arroyo)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 11:00:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: quick introduction
In-Reply-To: <107443.67147.qm@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <708369.88881.qm@web35307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Is there a website for this suit maker? As you can see, I really want to get the suit done...cheap price, but good quality. And when I mean good quality, I mean the head is proportional to the body, the suit fits semi-fit to the wearer (not loose), and the teeth and claws are some what realistic (hard plastic and not loose material), and a movable jaw.

D'Lorn <game_wagon at yahoo.com> wrote:          *test?* Never posted, bear with me.

I have had better luck with new fursuit creators.  I scouted out for a good few months for folks that needed practice.  Found one that would work for just material costs, and didn't even attempt that (wanted someone with 'some!' experience)

Ended up ^by chance^ meeting an awesome guy at AC and he gave me a premium price of 800.  For a full suit mind, with special work on my ears.. and a movable jaw.  I think he should have charged more if the going price seems to be 1500???

Then again though.. I would have never bought it, would have got the materials and half a'ed it myself ya know?

Mattering on Materials ya, it would cost alot more if you did something really special.  I just had faux fur 13 bucks a yard for it, and a foam based head.  I'd say 1000 is good for a suit like that, any extras... ooh yea charge extra :D



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Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 20:04:08 -0000
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Dlorn

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From: Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2007 7:03:39 PM
Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction

$1500 Who is undercutting the going fursuit prices? If you can find one that cheep I would say go for it! A lot of fursuits run more than that just in the cost of the supplies to make it.

Donkey

  On 10/4/07, John Arroyo <jpa2blue at yahoo.com> wrote:  Just joined! Or more like applied for the group. I have noticed that most fur suit makers charge the same per suit; usually $1500+ USD per suit. It may be a while before I can gain that kind of spending $$$. I should have it by the end of this year....hopefully, so that I can wear my Fox Tails suit for next years Halloween....shoot....maybe even before that!!!









  
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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Fri Oct  5 14:12:27 2007
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:12:27 -0400
Subject: FL: quick introduction
In-Reply-To: <708369.88881.qm@web35307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <107443.67147.qm@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<708369.88881.qm@web35307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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On 10/5/07, John Arroyo <jpa2blue at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Is there a website for this suit maker? As you can see, I really want to get
> the suit done...cheap price, but good quality. And when I mean good quality,
> I mean the head is proportional to the body, the suit fits semi-fit to the
> wearer (not loose), and the teeth and claws are some what realistic (hard
> plastic and not loose material), and a movable jaw.

Joecifur's site is http://dragonsteel.org/c.htm

There are a lot of really good suit makers out there, but Joecifur is
reasonably priced as well as high quality.

From game_wagon at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  5 17:20:53 2007
From: game_wagon at yahoo.com (D'Lorn)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:20:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: quick introduction
Message-ID: <781378.14155.qm@web37915.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The maker of my suit is part of this list, ask the list for such prices.  I don't think he's taking commisions and I don't have his contact info.. I met him in person.  His name though is Hindpaws, and I would be a repeat buyer ;3  *yep so if you see this Hindpaws, you know I still <3 you for it* :D

----- Original Message ----
From: John Arroyo <jpa2blue at yahoo.com>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2007 1:00:22 PM
Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction

Is there a website for this suit maker? As you can see, I really want to get the suit done...cheap price, but good quality. And when I mean good quality, I mean the head is proportional to the body, the suit fits semi-fit to the wearer (not loose), and the teeth and claws are some what realistic (hard plastic and not loose material), and a movable jaw.

D'Lorn <game_wagon at yahoo.com> wrote:          *test?* Never posted, bear with me.

I have had better luck with new fursuit creators.  I scouted out for a good few months for folks that needed practice. 
 Found one that would work for just material costs, and didn't even attempt that (wanted someone with 'some!' experience)

Ended up ^by chance^ meeting an awesome guy at AC and he gave me a premium price of 800.  For a full suit mind, with special work on my ears.. and a movable jaw.  I think he should have charged more if the going price seems to be 1500???

Then again though.. I would have never bought it, would have got the materials and half a'ed it myself ya know?

Mattering on Materials ya, it would cost alot more if you did something really special.  I just had faux fur 13 bucks a yard for it, and a foam based head.  I'd say 1000 is good for a suit like that, any extras... ooh yea charge extra :D


From the soon to be crafter of 2008,

Dlorn

  ----- Original Message ----
From: Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com>
To:
 fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2007 7:03:39 PM
Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction

$1500 Who is undercutting the going fursuit prices? If you can find one that cheep I would say go for it! A lot of fursuits run more than that just in the cost of the supplies to make it.

Donkey

  On 10/4/07, John Arroyo <jpa2blue at yahoo.com> wrote:  Just joined! Or more like applied for the group. I have noticed that most fur suit makers charge the same per suit; usually $1500+ USD per suit. It may be a while before I can gain that kind of spending $$$. I should have it by the end of this year....hopefully, so that I can wear my Fox Tails suit for next years
 Halloween....shoot....maybe even before that!!!









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From game_wagon at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  5 17:29:19 2007
From: game_wagon at yahoo.com (D'Lorn)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:29:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: On the note of finding low priced suits
Message-ID: <806693.17328.qm@web37915.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

sorry to post again so quickly, but the lowest prices out today is professional sites that make the same suit again and again.  If your looking for something super cheap.. get one that someone is selling, that is used.  

Next?  Go to a place like http://realms.safeshopper.com/24/152.htm?361  (like may not work, but meh)  I went there to see what pre-fab stuff looked like, and it seems it's close to what I want.. and me a would-be suit creator, I'll add to it as needed/possible.

The  next step is to look for people on this list.  If they are willing the prices may be lower, but they will be higher than the above two, mostly due that these are real people with real lives, and the ones that would do it for lower price, most likely aren't full timing it.  Those that full time it are professional based and know the value of what they do.

So for those of you looking for a suit as premium price... talk ..talk.. talk, you may get lucky, but most likely you'll end up paying what they are worth. *grins*

I wish you all good luck on that.

~Dlorn

----- Original Message ----
From: John Arroyo <jpa2blue at yahoo.com>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2007 1:00:22 PM
Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction

Is there a website for this suit maker? As you can see, I really want to get the suit done...cheap price, but good quality. And when I mean good quality, I mean the head is proportional to the body, the suit fits semi-fit to the wearer (not loose), and the teeth and claws are some what realistic (hard plastic and not loose material), and a movable jaw.

D'Lorn <game_wagon at yahoo.com> wrote:          *test?* Never posted, bear with me.

I have had better luck with new fursuit creators.  I scouted out for a good few months for folks that needed practice. 
 Found one that would work for just material costs, and didn't even attempt that (wanted someone with 'some!' experience)

Ended up ^by chance^ meeting an awesome guy at AC and he gave me a premium price of 800.  For a full suit mind, with special work on my ears.. and a movable jaw.  I think he should have charged more if the going price seems to be 1500???

Then again though.. I would have never bought it, would have got the materials and half a'ed it myself ya know?

Mattering on Materials ya, it would cost alot more if you did something really special.  I just had faux fur 13 bucks a yard for it, and a foam based head.  I'd say 1000 is good for a suit like that, any extras... ooh yea charge extra :D


From the soon to be crafter of 2008,

Dlorn

  ----- Original Message ----
From: Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com>
To:
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Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2007 7:03:39 PM
Subject: Re: FL: quick introduction

$1500 Who is undercutting the going fursuit prices? If you can find one that cheep I would say go for it! A lot of fursuits run more than that just in the cost of the supplies to make it.

Donkey

  On 10/4/07, John Arroyo <jpa2blue at yahoo.com> wrote:  Just joined! Or more like applied for the group. I have noticed that most fur suit makers charge the same per suit; usually $1500+ USD per suit. It may be a while before I can gain that kind of spending $$$. I should have it by the end of this year....hopefully, so that I can wear my Fox Tails suit for next years
 Halloween....shoot....maybe even before that!!!









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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Fri Oct  5 20:46:03 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:46:03 -0700
Subject: FL: On the note of finding low priced suits
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I bought two of the wolf half masks from Realms of Enchantment. They even
colored it different than the standerd colors that they come in. I like them
a lot.

As for the full costume heads I don't care for them. You have to turn your
body to look around. The heads only look forward. Other than that there not
bad suits. They do look good.

Donkey

On 10/5/07, D'Lorn <game_wagon at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> sorry to post again so quickly, but the lowest prices out today is
> professional sites that make the same suit again and again.  If your looking
> for something super cheap.. get one that someone is selling, that is used.
>
> Next?  Go to a place like http://realms.safeshopper.com/24/152.htm?361
> (like may not work, but meh)  I went there to see what pre-fab stuff looked
> like, and it seems it's close to what I want.. and me a would-be suit
> creator, I'll add to it as needed/possible.
>
> The  next step is to look for people on this list.  If they are willing
> the prices may be lower, but they will be higher than the above two, mostly
> due that these are real people with real lives, and the ones that would do
> it for lower price, most likely aren't full timing it.  Those that full time
> it are professional based and know the value of what they do.
>
> So for those of you looking for a suit as premium price... talk ..talk..
> talk, you may get lucky, but most likely you'll end up paying what they are
> worth. *grins*
>
> I wish you all good luck on that.
>
> ~Dlorn
>
>
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From jc2blion at taconic.net  Sat Oct  6 08:08:21 2007
From: jc2blion at taconic.net (Kamau)
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 08:08:21 -0400
Subject: FL: On the note of finding low priced suits
References: <806693.17328.qm@web37915.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <001601c80811$97627ee0$0700000a@Mufasa>

I've found that it is relatively easy to mount a inexpensive work helmet in 
a Realms head which allows the head to move with yours.  Though I've got 
much better suits now I still use the Realms suit for certain functions. 
They are a very good starter suit IMHO.

Kamau
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donkey" <donkeyears at gmail.com>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: FL: On the note of finding low priced suits


>I bought two of the wolf half masks from Realms of Enchantment. They even
> colored it different than the standerd colors that they come in. I like 
> them
> a lot.
>
> As for the full costume heads I don't care for them. You have to turn your
> body to look around. The heads only look forward. Other than that there 
> not
> bad suits. They do look good.
>
> Donkey
>
> On 10/5/07, D'Lorn <game_wagon at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> sorry to post again so quickly, but the lowest prices out today is
>> professional sites that make the same suit again and again.  If your 
>> looking
>> for something super cheap.. get one that someone is selling, that is 
>> used.
>>
>> Next?  Go to a place like http://realms.safeshopper.com/24/152.htm?361
>> (like may not work, but meh)  I went there to see what pre-fab stuff 
>> looked
>> like, and it seems it's close to what I want.. and me a would-be suit
>> creator, I'll add to it as needed/possible.
>>
>> The  next step is to look for people on this list.  If they are willing
>> the prices may be lower, but they will be higher than the above two, 
>> mostly
>> due that these are real people with real lives, and the ones that would 
>> do
>> it for lower price, most likely aren't full timing it.  Those that full 
>> time
>> it are professional based and know the value of what they do.
>>
>> So for those of you looking for a suit as premium price... talk ..talk..
>> talk, you may get lucky, but most likely you'll end up paying what they 
>> are
>> worth. *grins*
>>
>> I wish you all good luck on that.
>>
>> ~Dlorn
>>
>>
>


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From jpa2blue at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  6 12:25:02 2007
From: jpa2blue at yahoo.com (John Arroyo)
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 09:25:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: On the note of finding low priced suits
In-Reply-To: <001601c80811$97627ee0$0700000a@Mufasa>
Message-ID: <940203.12547.qm@web35305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

J2 Fox Tails here! - Ehhh...The Realms suits look toooooo much like an actual mascot suit to me. I want to get something a little more unique. I have already been talking to Joecifur, it looks like I will be going with his service. Since I have never bought a suit before I don't know what is cheap and what is expensive....but I suppose $1300 to $1500 is not expensive at all when compared to other web services.

Kamau <jc2blion at taconic.net> wrote:  I've found that it is relatively easy to mount a inexpensive work helmet in 
a Realms head which allows the head to move with yours. Though I've got 
much better suits now I still use the Realms suit for certain functions. 
They are a very good starter suit IMHO.

Kamau
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donkey" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: FL: On the note of finding low priced suits


>I bought two of the wolf half masks from Realms of Enchantment. They even
> colored it different than the standerd colors that they come in. I like 
> them
> a lot.
>
> As for the full costume heads I don't care for them. You have to turn your
> body to look around. The heads only look forward. Other than that there 
> not
> bad suits. They do look good.
>
> Donkey
>
> On 10/5/07, D'Lorn wrote:
>>
>> sorry to post again so quickly, but the lowest prices out today is
>> professional sites that make the same suit again and again. If your 
>> looking
>> for something super cheap.. get one that someone is selling, that is 
>> used.
>>
>> Next? Go to a place like http://realms.safeshopper.com/24/152.htm?361
>> (like may not work, but meh) I went there to see what pre-fab stuff 
>> looked
>> like, and it seems it's close to what I want.. and me a would-be suit
>> creator, I'll add to it as needed/possible.
>>
>> The next step is to look for people on this list. If they are willing
>> the prices may be lower, but they will be higher than the above two, 
>> mostly
>> due that these are real people with real lives, and the ones that would 
>> do
>> it for lower price, most likely aren't full timing it. Those that full 
>> time
>> it are professional based and know the value of what they do.
>>
>> So for those of you looking for a suit as premium price... talk ..talk..
>> talk, you may get lucky, but most likely you'll end up paying what they 
>> are
>> worth. *grins*
>>
>> I wish you all good luck on that.
>>
>> ~Dlorn
>>
>>
>


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From wallyfox98 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 10 17:39:49 2007
From: wallyfox98 at hotmail.com (Wally_Wabbit/Stephen H./Wallyfox)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:39:49 -0400
Subject: FL: HF: Furfright Fursuiter Feast!
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References: <BAY121-W6C6416BA5EAD3257F700ED0AF0@phx.gbl>
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Just an update:
 
I already have a number of folks planning to attend and several folks with car space! If you haven't already please read the message below and let me know your intentions my Tuesday 10/16. I will be giving the restaurant a count on Wednesday.
 
This is an out of suit event open to all fursuit performers, builders, fans, and curious folk.
 
There should be room for last minute folk and I will make a final post about things just before the con.
 
Original post/details below:
 
The Furfright Fursuiter Feast will be held at American Steakhouse 4 miles from the hotel. For those that are not familiar this restaurant is much like a Bonanza/Ponderosa.
 
We will be meeting at 5pm in the main lobby of the hotel on Friday 10/19. From there we will carpool to the restaurant. This is an "out of suit" event for those who enjoy fursuiting.
 
If your planning to attend please send a private email to wallyfox98 at hotmail.com. I will need to know the following by Tuesday 10/16 (Restaurant would like an updated count 1-2 days prior):
 
-Do you have your own transportation to the restaurant Yes or No?
 
-If yes, would you be willing to carpool others? and how many can fit in your vehicle?
 
Also note this restaurant is mainly buffet style and it requires all that are seated in the dining room to purchase a meal. A soda/glass of water may not cut it and meals range anywhere from $6.99 and up. Please have a peek at the menu before RSVP'ing: http://www.americansteakhouse.com/menu_waterbury.html
 
For those who would like to meet directly at the restaurant our reservation is set for 5:30PM and the address is below:
 
American Steakhouse 1011 Wolcott Rd. (Conn Rt 69)
Waterbury, CT 06705 
203-756-7529 
http://www.americansteakhouse.com/locations.html
(Restaurant is in the Price Chopper Plaza) 
 
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From v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 10 19:21:00 2007
From: v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com (VDragOnEyen09 VDragOnEyen09)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:21:00 -0600
Subject: FL: FC 2008
Message-ID: <fd39d8000710101621w6f656589heb64ace2761e7945@mail.gmail.com>

Who will attend to the FC 2008 next january!?

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From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Wed Oct 10 19:33:27 2007
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (Cyan FOX)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:33:27 -0400
Subject: FL: FC 2008
In-Reply-To: <fd39d8000710101621w6f656589heb64ace2761e7945@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd39d8000710101621w6f656589heb64ace2761e7945@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b1c118750710101633s544e5b47q50501025383e211f@mail.gmail.com>

x.x i'll be driving all the way from Albany NY x.x

On 10/10/07, VDragOnEyen09 VDragOnEyen09 <v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Who will attend to the FC 2008 next january!?
>
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From camerapup at charter.net  Wed Oct 10 19:23:05 2007
From: camerapup at charter.net (Camerapup)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:23:05 -0700
Subject: FL: FC 2008
In-Reply-To: <fd39d8000710101621w6f656589heb64ace2761e7945@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd39d8000710101621w6f656589heb64ace2761e7945@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C4DB17A9FFF34D30AED2AF63C46F392E@DualCorePC>

lol thats going to be a long list :) But i will be there with a new suit to unveil as well ;)

Camerapup
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  Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 04:21 PM
  Subject: FL: FC 2008


  Who will attend to the FC 2008 next january!?

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From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Wed Oct 10 19:35:43 2007
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 23:35:43 +0000
Subject: FL: FC 2008
In-Reply-To: <b1c118750710101633s544e5b47q50501025383e211f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd39d8000710101621w6f656589heb64ace2761e7945@mail.gmail.com>
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I can't.... i have other financial commitments at the current moment... try asking me again in time for 2009 or 2010> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:33:27 -0400> From: cyan.fox at gmail.com> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> Subject: Re: FL: FC 2008> > x.x i'll be driving all the way from Albany NY x.x> > On 10/10/07, VDragOnEyen09 VDragOnEyen09 <v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com> wrote:> > Who will attend to the FC 2008 next january!?> >> > --> > Att.> > Allan Sormani S.> > DragonEyE Studios> > v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com> > _______________________________________________> > _______________________________________________> > Fursuit Mail list.> > To edit your subscription, visit:> > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list> >> >> _______________________________________________> _______________________________________________> Fursuit Mail list.> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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From dasraccoon at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 10 20:03:05 2007
From: dasraccoon at yahoo.com (Neo Vienne)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:03:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: FC 2008
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Message-ID: <661369.41486.qm@web45116.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

xD This 'coon will be there. ^__^
Coming from Northern Nevada. Mmhmm!

VDragOnEyen09 VDragOnEyen09 <v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com> wrote: Who will attend to the FC 2008 next january!?

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From v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 10 20:28:59 2007
From: v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com (VDragOnEyen09 VDragOnEyen09)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:28:59 -0600
Subject: FL: FC 2008
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Well, I will attend to FC 2008, This will be my first time on any FC or any
other furry convention! ^_^

BTW, I already got my airline ticket, 2 stops :'( but well, it doesnt
matter, I will be there no matter what! XD. I will also use my new fursuit!
hehe.

I will arrive to the Doubletree hotel the 23 at night! Do someone wants to
meet in a place or something!?



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> xD This 'coon will be there. ^__^
> Coming from Northern Nevada. Mmhmm!
>
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>
> Who will attend to the FC 2008 next january!?
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From orwin at shaw.ca  Wed Oct 10 20:08:37 2007
From: orwin at shaw.ca (raqoon)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:08:37 -0700
Subject: FL: FC 2008
In-Reply-To: <C4DB17A9FFF34D30AED2AF63C46F392E@DualCorePC>
References: <fd39d8000710101621w6f656589heb64ace2761e7945@mail.gmail.com>
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Hey...still got that Care Bear suit?

Just wondering.  (and ya will be at FC this year with something new as well, skipped last year...too busy)

Raq




From donkeyears at gmail.com  Wed Oct 10 22:33:25 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:33:25 -0700
Subject: FL: FC 2008
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About 2,000 furs

Donkey

On 10/10/07, VDragOnEyen09 VDragOnEyen09 <v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Who will attend to the FC 2008 next january!?
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From pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 11 00:53:25 2007
From: pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com (Kit Kat)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:53:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: FC 2008
In-Reply-To: <fd39d8000710101621w6f656589heb64ace2761e7945@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <619470.96764.qm@web53812.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

you can count on me to be there. I will probably either be suiting as Pumpkin (Oberon is his real name), my male black cat character, or as my main fursona Sada Aoko if I have her finished by then :3

VDragOnEyen09 VDragOnEyen09 <v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com> wrote: Who will attend to the FC 2008 next january!?

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From oz_kangaroo at optusnet.com.au  Thu Oct 11 01:03:05 2007
From: oz_kangaroo at optusnet.com.au (Oz Kangaroo)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:03:05 +1000
Subject: FL: FC 2008
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I'm going to be there!!!

I'll have a bunch of new suits there too. As well as some old ones 
like Oz and Duke.
I'm really looking forward to it!

See you all there.

Oz
www.crittercountry.com.au

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From rtrabbitny at aol.com  Thu Oct 11 01:16:09 2007
From: rtrabbitny at aol.com (rtrabbitny at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:16:09 -0400
Subject: FL: FWD: NJPIRG at Rutgers University NJ
Message-ID: <8C9D9DCF7C31C6D-1518-2CAA@FWM-M07.sysops.aol.com>

My name is Candace, I'm a student at Rutgers University, New Brunswick,
and I've been looking into the fursuit scene lately. I've noticed that
rapidtrabbit and foxwell seem to be
active in the New York and New Jersey areas, and I was wondering if any of
you or your friends could come down for a volunteering opportunity.

Nothing is solid yet, but it's for visibility for NJPIRG's student chapter
referendum. Every 3 years, a referendum is held at Rutgers University to
ensure that the majority of students are in agreement with having a
waiveable fee on their term bill that supports NJPIRG.

PIRG, the Public Interest Research Group, is actually a nationwide
institution, but here on the local level, and more specifically at our
university, we take on projects such as stream monitoring, river clean up,
food drives, aiding with the passage of global warming policies, and other
such activities that the students are concerned about.

As for your role in this, we need some eye-catching ways to attract people
to come vote in the referendum. Sorry for the short notice, but
referendum is taking place this upcoming week, and one of the first things
that popped in my mind is having a field of fursuiters dance for us! I
can't offer any compensation, but I'd be glad to make reservations at a
restaurant or diner for everyone to gather around later.

Of course, I'm totally open to other ideas as well. So let me know what
you think, and if anyone else is interested - tentative date for this would be Monday October 22 in the afternoon, and feel free to email me back at this address candychic125 at hotmail.com

Thanks in advance!
Candace 

PS- I'm making a red panda costume!
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Thu Oct 11 06:33:02 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:33:02 -0700
Subject: FL: FC 2008
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.0.20071011150150.04e5a420@mail.optusnet.com.au>
References: <fd39d8000710101621w6f656589heb64ace2761e7945@mail.gmail.com>
	<6.2.3.4.0.20071011150150.04e5a420@mail.optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0710110333o4c1a7f0bvc76ad86e54d16f1a@mail.gmail.com>

I like Oz. He is a extremely adorable kangaroo. Some day Roo my
kangaroo fursuit will be updated. But right now the person that makes
the frames for my heads is burned out on making fursuits. I got way to
pushy.

Donkey

On 10/10/07, Oz Kangaroo <oz_kangaroo at optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>  I'm going to be there!!!
>
>  I'll have a bunch of new suits there too. As well as some old ones like Oz
> and Duke.
>  I'm really looking forward to it!
>
>  See you all there.
>
>  Oz
>  www.crittercountry.com.au
>
>
> At 09:21 AM 11/10/2007, you wrote:
>
> Who will attend to the FC 2008 next january!?
>
>  --
>  Att.
>  Allan Sormani S.
>  DragonEyE Studios
>  v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com
>  _______________________________________________
>  _______________________________________________
>  Fursuit Mail list.
>  To edit your subscription, visit:
> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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From jc2blion at taconic.net  Thu Oct 11 06:57:14 2007
From: jc2blion at taconic.net (Kamau)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:57:14 -0400
Subject: FL: FC 2008
References: <fd39d8000710101621w6f656589heb64ace2761e7945@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1c118750710101633s544e5b47q50501025383e211f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005101c80bf5$7f7694f0$0700000a@Mufasa>

And I thought I was crazy driving from the MA boarder to MFM this year. 
Well from another Albany area fur, good luck and have a safe drive.

As for me, no more cons until 2008.

Kamau
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cyan FOX" <cyan.fox at gmail.com>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: FL: FC 2008


> x.x i'll be driving all the way from Albany NY x.x
>
> On 10/10/07, VDragOnEyen09 VDragOnEyen09 <v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> Who will attend to the FC 2008 next january!?
>>
>> --
>> Att.
>> Allan Sormani S.
>> DragonEyE Studios
>> v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> _______________________________________________
>> Fursuit Mail list.
>> To edit your subscription, visit:
>> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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>>
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From fursuit at jovino.com  Thu Oct 11 06:36:37 2007
From: fursuit at jovino.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?jovino_=A0?=)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:36:37 -0700
Subject: FL: FC 2008
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0710101933p553f9f32s1d6253fa1ed79bcb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd39d8000710101621w6f656589heb64ace2761e7945@mail.gmail.com>
	<d23d76ca0710101933p553f9f32s1d6253fa1ed79bcb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <319D504C-32C3-42F9-BB49-04E22A3B121C@jovino.com>

schmaybe more.

You beat me to the punch, but given that I don't read this list but  
about bi-weekly that's not a very difficult thing to do. :)

I'll be there. I'm driving all the way from Oakland. It's going to be  
a grueling 45 minute drive. Damn. It's gonna suck.

Maybe this year I'll actually make a new suit. The old bunny is  
awfully tired and full of burrs.


( )_( )
(o , o)
(").(")
jovino


On Oct 10, 2007, at 7:33 PM, Donkey wrote:

> About 2,000 furs


From donkeyears at gmail.com  Thu Oct 11 13:19:28 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:19:28 -0700
Subject: FL: FC 2008
In-Reply-To: <319D504C-32C3-42F9-BB49-04E22A3B121C@jovino.com>
References: <fd39d8000710101621w6f656589heb64ace2761e7945@mail.gmail.com>
	<d23d76ca0710101933p553f9f32s1d6253fa1ed79bcb@mail.gmail.com>
	<319D504C-32C3-42F9-BB49-04E22A3B121C@jovino.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0710111019y6eee6f29xf07485fd962709dd@mail.gmail.com>

Man, are you sure you can get that much time off of work? Wont they be
saying that you disappeared for so long that they declared you dead.

On 10/11/07, jovino <fursuit at jovino.com> wrote:
> schmaybe more.
>
> You beat me to the punch, but given that I don't read this list but
> about bi-weekly that's not a very difficult thing to do. :)
>
> I'll be there. I'm driving all the way from Oakland. It's going to be
> a grueling 45 minute drive. Damn. It's gonna suck.
>
> Maybe this year I'll actually make a new suit. The old bunny is
> awfully tired and full of burrs.
>
>
> ( )_( )
> (o , o)
> (").(")
> jovino
>
>
> On Oct 10, 2007, at 7:33 PM, Donkey wrote:
>
> > About 2,000 furs
>
> _______________________________________________
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From roxikat at gmail.com  Thu Oct 11 15:06:10 2007
From: roxikat at gmail.com (John Barrett)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:06:10 -0400
Subject: FL: FC 2008
Message-ID: <48a09f210710111206x4bdffb47sb1ddd3461c2ddc06@mail.gmail.com>

Hihi!  I'll be at FC 2008, hopefully in my new Roxikat fursuit I've
commissioned from ArtSlave. :)
If my suit isn't ready, I can bring my old one which was repaired for the
most part for my Pawpet Show appearance
on <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=MohEH6DgPZc">YouTube</a>.
Last year, I'd mailed my head to the hotel and it got battered pretty good.
:)  The spackle seems to be holding for now.
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Thu Oct 11 15:27:09 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0700
Subject: FL: FC 2008
In-Reply-To: <48a09f210710111206x4bdffb47sb1ddd3461c2ddc06@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48a09f210710111206x4bdffb47sb1ddd3461c2ddc06@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0710111227h1fcda00dvba8cbf1f1a2bc45b@mail.gmail.com>

I would love to be on The Paw Pet Show ass a subservient fursuiter.

Donkey

On 10/11/07, John Barrett <roxikat at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hihi!  I'll be at FC 2008, hopefully in my new Roxikat fursuit I've
> commissioned from ArtSlave. :)
> If my suit isn't ready, I can bring my old one which was repaired for the
> most part for my Pawpet Show appearance
> on <a
> href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=MohEH6DgPZc">YouTube</a>.
> Last year, I'd mailed my head to the hotel and it got battered pretty good.
> :)  The spackle seems to be holding for now.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> To edit your subscription, visit:
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>

From abaddoggy at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct 11 17:26:59 2007
From: abaddoggy at sbcglobal.net (Lucky)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:26:59 -0500
Subject: FL: Patrick Barnes
References: <48a09f210710111206x4bdffb47sb1ddd3461c2ddc06@mail.gmail.com>
	<d23d76ca0710111227h1fcda00dvba8cbf1f1a2bc45b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00c201c80c4d$760037c0$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>

Howdy All

I am looking for how to contact Patrick Barnes.  He used to live in the 
metropolitan New York area but I lost touch with him a number of years ago. 
Then recently, while going thru and cleaning out some things, I found some 
of the correspondance between him and I and I would very much like to check 
in and see how he's doing.

So if anyone knows of him or whats become of him, please let me know.

Lucky
abaddoggy on Yahoo Messenger 


From rtrabbitny at aol.com  Thu Oct 11 18:55:36 2007
From: rtrabbitny at aol.com (rtrabbitny at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:55:36 -0400
Subject: FL: Patrick Barnes
In-Reply-To: <00c201c80c4d$760037c0$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>
References: <48a09f210710111206x4bdffb47sb1ddd3461c2ddc06@mail.gmail.com>	<d23d76ca0710111227h1fcda00dvba8cbf1f1a2bc45b@mail.gmail.com>
	<00c201c80c4d$760037c0$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>
Message-ID: <8C9DA70F8E0542B-F94-51E8@mblk-d26.sysops.aol.com>

I haven't been in touch with him in?almost a decade ever since he quit my TV show and dropped out of both the fursuit/furry community and the predecessor to TMO, all due to various personal issues.?? We originally met at Chuck E.?Cheese's in?Union NJ and sadly, that is also where we parted company.????Long since then, I've been?wondering about him myself and I still care about him.? He had lived in Hillside NJ just outside of Newark.

Rapid T. Rabbit




Howdy All

I am looking for how to contact Patrick Barnes.  He used to live in the 
metropolitan New York area but I lost touch with him a number of years ago. 
Then recently, while going thru and cleaning out some things, I found some 
of the correspondance between him and I and I would very much like to check 
in and see how he's doing.

So if anyone knows of him or whats become of him, please let me know.

Lucky
abaddoggy on Yahoo Messenger 


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From chameleon264 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 11 18:56:49 2007
From: chameleon264 at yahoo.com (Black Foot)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:56:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: FC 2008
In-Reply-To: <fd39d8000710101621w6f656589heb64ace2761e7945@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <313917.25465.qm@web56907.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

This wolf is quite unsure or not but this wolf is gonna try and make it and if not then ask this wolf again next year for FC'09

VDragOnEyen09 VDragOnEyen09 <v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com> wrote:  Who will attend to the FC 2008 next january!?

-- 
Att.
Allan Sormani S.
DragonEyE Studios
v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com _______________________________________________
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From fursuit at jovino.com  Fri Oct 12 15:06:07 2007
From: fursuit at jovino.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?jovino_=A0?=)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:06:07 -0700
Subject: FL: FC 2008
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0710111019y6eee6f29xf07485fd962709dd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd39d8000710101621w6f656589heb64ace2761e7945@mail.gmail.com>
	<d23d76ca0710101933p553f9f32s1d6253fa1ed79bcb@mail.gmail.com>
	<319D504C-32C3-42F9-BB49-04E22A3B121C@jovino.com>
	<d23d76ca0710111019y6eee6f29xf07485fd962709dd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F5D62F3-D78E-4C4A-B0D9-2A8C74A3D7F3@jovino.com>

I think I could collect some insurance money if that was the case.  
Hmmm...

  /)_/)
(^.^=)
(")"_)o
jovino


On Oct 11, 2007, at 10:19 AM, Donkey wrote:

> Man, are you sure you can get that much time off of work? Wont they be
> saying that you disappeared for so long that they declared you dead.


From fursuit at jovino.com  Fri Oct 12 15:14:53 2007
From: fursuit at jovino.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?jovino_=A0?=)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:14:53 -0700
Subject: FL: FC 2008
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0710111227h1fcda00dvba8cbf1f1a2bc45b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48a09f210710111206x4bdffb47sb1ddd3461c2ddc06@mail.gmail.com>
	<d23d76ca0710111227h1fcda00dvba8cbf1f1a2bc45b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DD48632A-053B-4DB9-9CD4-C2D0E01F9EA3@jovino.com>

I think YOU would be freakin' awesome on the show. How do we make  
that happen?


( V )
(o.O)
(u u)*
  U U
jovino


On Oct 11, 2007, at 12:27 PM, Donkey wrote:

> I would love to be on The Paw Pet Show ass a subservient fursuiter.
>
> Donkey
>
> On 10/11/07, John Barrett <roxikat at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hihi!  I'll be at FC 2008, hopefully in my new Roxikat fursuit I've
>> commissioned from ArtSlave. :)
>> If my suit isn't ready, I can bring my old one which was repaired  
>> for the
>> most part for my Pawpet Show appearance
>> on <a
>> href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=MohEH6DgPZc">YouTube</a>.
>> Last year, I'd mailed my head to the hotel and it got battered  
>> pretty good.
>> :)  The spackle seems to be holding for now.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> _______________________________________________
>> Fursuit Mail list.
>> To edit your subscription, visit:
>> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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From fursuit at jovino.com  Fri Oct 12 16:03:17 2007
From: fursuit at jovino.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?jovino_=A0?=)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:03:17 -0700
Subject: FL: someone on this list has a virus on their computer!!
References: <000701c80d08$bb457550$0fe44f42@YOUR524031EC7D>
Message-ID: <7EC82A33-B57C-4601-8611-8F1A653B0FE4@jovino.com>

All I have to say is scan your shit, yo!!!

I ONLY use this email address for this list, so for it to be getting  
spam means that one of y'alls has an email virus on your computer and  
YOU are the one responsible for all that freakin' spam clogging my  
inbox.

Received: from [66.79.228.15] (stat-dsl-mb-66-79-228-15.nexicom.net  
[66.79.228.15])
stat-dsl-mb-66-79-228-15.nexicom.net

So, if YOU are on a nexicom DSL connection, then this is YOUR  
computer. Check it! Fix it! This shit is pissing me off!


  _   _
| |_| |
[~ x ~]
/    \
\____/D
jovino

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> Subject: negewsno
>
> hello you fursuit
> you think having an average sized cock is ok?
> Hejssan feldman
> http://www.amcofa.com/
>



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From iluvferrets53187 at aol.com  Fri Oct 12 18:03:51 2007
From: iluvferrets53187 at aol.com (iluvferrets53187 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:03:51 -0400
Subject: FL: *****SPAM***** Re: someone on this list has a virus on their
	computer!!
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From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Sat Oct 13 07:02:39 2007
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (Cyan FOX)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 07:02:39 -0400
Subject: FL: FC 2008
In-Reply-To: <fd39d8000710101728r67baf7d8y92abcae2313f5b98@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd39d8000710101621w6f656589heb64ace2761e7945@mail.gmail.com>
	<661369.41486.qm@web45116.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<fd39d8000710101728r67baf7d8y92abcae2313f5b98@mail.gmail.com>
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woof :D

On 10/10/07, VDragOnEyen09 VDragOnEyen09 <v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well, I will attend to FC 2008, This will be my first time on any FC or
> any other furry convention! ^_^
>
> BTW, I already got my airline ticket, 2 stops :'( but well, it doesnt
> matter, I will be there no matter what! XD. I will also use my new fursuit!
> hehe.
>
> I will arrive to the Doubletree hotel the 23 at night! Do someone wants to
> meet in a place or something!?
>
>
>
> On 10/10/07, Neo Vienne < dasraccoon at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > xD This 'coon will be there. ^__^
> > Coming from Northern Nevada. Mmhmm!
> >
> > *VDragOnEyen09 VDragOnEyen09 <v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com >* wrote:
> >
> > Who will attend to the FC 2008 next january!?
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Mon Oct 15 16:58:27 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:58:27 -0700
Subject: FL: FC 2008
In-Reply-To: <DD48632A-053B-4DB9-9CD4-C2D0E01F9EA3@jovino.com>
References: <48a09f210710111206x4bdffb47sb1ddd3461c2ddc06@mail.gmail.com>
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I am a trucker, some day I might just make it down there. But I will
have to be picked up at the truck stop. Or where ever I can find a
place to park my semi.

Yes I do keep fursuits in my semi! I am a true furry!!!!

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On 10/12/07, jovino <fursuit at jovino.com> wrote:
> I think YOU would be freakin' awesome on the show. How do we make
> that happen?
>
>
> ( V )
> (o.O)
> (u u)*
>   U U
> jovino
>

From wallyfox98 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 17 10:53:53 2007
From: wallyfox98 at hotmail.com (Wally_Wabbit/Stephen H./Wallyfox)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:53:53 -0400
Subject: FL: Furfright Fursuiter Feast Finalized!
In-Reply-To: <BAY121-W6C6416BA5EAD3257F700ED0AF0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY121-W6C6416BA5EAD3257F700ED0AF0@phx.gbl>
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I want to say "Thank You" to everyone who RSVP'd. The restaurant is expecting about 30 of us (give or take a few). There is still room for stragglers. I ask that you try and find me at the con before the event in case I need to give them another count. I don't want to surprise them too much.
 
We will be meeting in the lobby at 5pm Friday and carpooling from there. We are leaving the hotel @5:30 with or without you so please be ready. If you are running late please meet us directly at the restaurant @5:45pm (see directions).
 
-Carpool Directions/Coupons will be provided to all who meet in the lobby of the hotel (limited supply of coupons-also on their website).
 
-Please dress accordingly- Ears/Tails are fine full fursuits are not reccomended. 
 
-Remember we will be in public and to act accordingly. We want to make a nice impression!
 
-Restaurant does require you to pay first and since a buffet is included in all meals they will require purchase of at least the buffet. If your not eating or just want a soda you will not be seated.
 
-Beer and Wine are available to those over 21. If you are driving DO NOT DRINK!
 
See you Friday! 
 
Don't forget to check out The "Furry Icebreaker/ Q &A" Panel Friday at 1pm and the "Furry Finances Panel" on Sunday at 10AM (Time has been changed)!
 
Oriiginal Post/details/directions below
 
-------------------------------------
 
The Furfright Fursuiter Feast will be held at American Steakhouse 4 miles from the hotel. For those that are not familiar this restaurant is much like a Bonanza/Ponderosa.
 
We will be meeting at 5pm in the main lobby of the hotel on Friday 10/19. From there we will carpool to the restaurant. This is an "out of suit" event for those who enjoy fursuiting.
 
If your planning to attend please send a private email to wallyfox98 at hotmail.com. I will need to know the following by Tuesday 10/16 (Restaurant would like an updated count 1-2 days prior):
 
-Do you have your own transportation to the restaurant Yes or No?
-If yes, would you be willing to carpool others? and how many can fit in your vehicle?
 
Also note this restaurant is mainly buffet style and it requires all that are seated in the dining room to purchase a meal. A soda/glass of water may not cut it and meals range anywhere from $6.99 and up. Please have a peek at the menu before RSVP'ing: http://www.americansteakhouse.com/menu_waterbury.html
 
For those who would like to meet directly at the restaurant our reservation is set for 5:30PM and the address/directions are below:
 
American Steakhouse 
1011 Wolcott Rd. (Conn Rt 69)
Waterbury, CT 06705 
203-756-7529 
http://www.americansteakhouse.com/locations.html
(Restaurant is in the Price Chopper Plaza) 
 
Turn Left onto East Main Street follow for about 2 miles
Right onto Frost Road. 
Follow Frost until you hit the intersection with Woodtick Road. Make a slight left onto Woodtick Road 
After the slight left go straight ahead onto Frost Road (Frost and Woodtick overlap briefly)
Follow Frost until it ends. Make a right onto Stillson Road (CT Rt 69 North)
Follow Stillson Road for 1/2 mile
Make a right at the end onto Wolcott Road (CT Rt 69 North) (at abandoned mobil gas station)
Restaurant is on your left in the Price Chopper Plaza. There is also an entrance off Lakewood Road (left at next intersection left into plaza)
 
snugs
 
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http://www.livejournal.com/users/wally_wabbit/ 
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From camerapup at charter.net  Wed Oct 24 23:58:30 2007
From: camerapup at charter.net (Camerapup)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:58:30 -0700
Subject: FL: seeking a custom harness
Message-ID: <A3C0D335B43247D4BBE8502C9342E4D0@DualCorePC>

ok was curious i tried google'ing this without much luck. I'm looking for someone or a company that can/does make dog type harnesses but large enough for a fursuit :)

Anyone got any links or can point me in the right direction, would like to get something made in time for FC.

camerapup
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From snglspdcat at gmail.com  Thu Oct 25 00:07:39 2007
From: snglspdcat at gmail.com (single speed cheeta)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:07:39 -0700
Subject: FL: seeking a custom harness
In-Reply-To: <A3C0D335B43247D4BBE8502C9342E4D0@DualCorePC>
References: <A3C0D335B43247D4BBE8502C9342E4D0@DualCorePC>
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You can make that very easily. Just copy a canine sized one:) It's
just nylon webbing...

On 10/24/07, Camerapup <camerapup at charter.net> wrote:
>
>
> ok was curious i tried google'ing this without much luck. I'm looking for
> someone or a company that can/does make dog type harnesses but large enough
> for a fursuit :)
>
> Anyone got any links or can point me in the right direction, would like to
> get something made in time for FC.
>
> camerapup
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From camerapup at charter.net  Thu Oct 25 00:11:19 2007
From: camerapup at charter.net (Camerapup)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:11:19 -0700
Subject: FL: seeking a custom harness
In-Reply-To: <A3C0D335B43247D4BBE8502C9342E4D0@DualCorePC>
References: <A3C0D335B43247D4BBE8502C9342E4D0@DualCorePC>
Message-ID: <DCB53BC21BBA472DA540B93A95CA8904@DualCorePC>

hehe to those who have replied already hehe i dont really have the time or the talent to try and learn how to make one, thats why i was looking for someone to do it for me if i provided the measurements :(


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Camerapup 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 08:58 PM
  Subject: FL: seeking a custom harness


  ok was curious i tried google'ing this without much luck. I'm looking for someone or a company that can/does make dog type harnesses but large enough for a fursuit :)

  Anyone got any links or can point me in the right direction, would like to get something made in time for FC.

  camerapup


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From tjcoyote at pobox.com  Thu Oct 25 00:19:14 2007
From: tjcoyote at pobox.com (TJCoyote)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:19:14 -0400
Subject: FL: seeking a custom harness
In-Reply-To: <DCB53BC21BBA472DA540B93A95CA8904@DualCorePC>
References: <A3C0D335B43247D4BBE8502C9342E4D0@DualCorePC>
	<DCB53BC21BBA472DA540B93A95CA8904@DualCorePC>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20071025001448.01b67ec0@pop.earthlink.net>

Shortwave Husky (figures, a husky!) makes them, and coincidentally just 
posted an LJ entry about 
them:  http://shortwave81.livejournal.com/57630.html  They're the basic 
nylon type, not the fancy tailored leather type that Jase Husky wears.  But 
I can say that they are strong, as Shortwave used his to pull a car!

-- TJCoyote

At 12:11 AM 10/25/2007, you wrote:
>hehe to those who have replied already hehe i dont really have the time or 
>the talent to try and learn how to make one, thats why i was looking for 
>someone to do it for me if i provided the measurements :(
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:camerapup at charter.net>Camerapup
>To: <mailto:fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 08:58 PM
>Subject: FL: seeking a custom harness
>
>ok was curious i tried google'ing this without much luck. I'm looking for 
>someone or a company that can/does make dog type harnesses but large 
>enough for a fursuit :)
>
>Anyone got any links or can point me in the right direction, would like to 
>get something made in time for FC.
>
>camerapup
>
>
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From monkaya_blue_wolf at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 27 15:28:05 2007
From: monkaya_blue_wolf at yahoo.com (Monkaya)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:28:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: seeking a custom harness
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20071025001448.01b67ec0@pop.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <87545.9477.qm@web55905.mail.re3.yahoo.com>


	 |\,/|
	< * * > 
	  \_/
	   - Hel-gro, Camera Pup!
	-
	__________________
	1 - Harness:
	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	-- CAMERAPUP:  ... can/does make dog type harnesses
but large enough for a fursuit

	Here is a pic of the one I built.  More pictures at
link below.

	-- ATTACHED:  'Mon Har Back BTN.jpg'

	- tooled leather straps are 40 millimeters wide,
	 -Two inch solid steel rings.  
	I can likely build something similar for $60.00
(excluding shipping).
	____
	^^^^
	-- TJ COYOTE:  Shortwave Husky ... makes them
http://shortwave81.livejournal.com/57630.html

	Are Pics of his work available?
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From dave at konig.demon.co.uk  Sun Oct 28 11:50:28 2007
From: dave at konig.demon.co.uk (David Cooke)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:50:28 +0000
Subject: FL: seeking a custom harness
In-Reply-To: <A3C0D335B43247D4BBE8502C9342E4D0@DualCorePC>
References: <A3C0D335B43247D4BBE8502C9342E4D0@DualCorePC>
Message-ID: <4724AFC4.1040100@konig.demon.co.uk>

Camerapup wrote:
> ok was curious i tried google'ing this without much luck. I'm looking 
> for someone or a company that can/does make dog type harnesses but large 
> enough for a fursuit :)
>  
> Anyone got any links or can point me in the right direction, would like 
> to get something made in time for FC.

I got mine from http://www.adanacsleds.com/, their largest
size harness would fir me out of suit, and only required a
little modification and about a foot of webbing to fit in
suit.  However, it would probably look better made oversize
for a fursuit character.

	David Cooke.


From francisco-sender-6f5fe9 at vulpes.net  Tue Oct 30 22:56:46 2007
From: francisco-sender-6f5fe9 at vulpes.net (Francisco Azinsan)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:56:46 -0500
Subject: FL: FC2008 October Newsletter
Message-ID: <20071031025646.GA78627@critter.net>


Further Confusion 2008 News Letter for October 2007.

1. Furry Market Place spaces still available
2. FNL08 - will it be YEAR OF THE NINJA
3. We welcome our second Guest of Honor
4. We need DJ's
5. The next meeting is November 11th

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1. Furry Market Place spaces still available

Yes, we still have some of these spaces left at the time of this
writing. If you want a space in the Furry Market Place, head on over
to the dealers page at the Further Confusion website and read the details,
download the PDF, fill it out, write a check for US $65.00 and get it sent
in to us.  That price INCLUDES a full membership to the convention. These
remaining spaces are not going to last long, and we will CLOSE sales on
December 1st, 2007 even if there are spaces left, so get your order
in soon!


2. FNL08 - will it be YEAR OF THE NINJA

Time is getting short to get involved with Furry Night Live 2008! This is
the marquee event for FC's Sunday evening, featuring a variety of furry
acts performed live. New this year we are accepting short video segments
to complement the on-stage acts. If you have an act or are otherwise
interested in participating, it is vital you join the FNL08 discussion
mailing list at <http://www.furtherconfusion.org/fc2008/signup/fnl>
(FNL007 list membership does not carry over to FNL08)

PLEASE NOTE: We will be shooting for a rough lineup by mid-January,
and space is limited. Don't wait for FC itself! Also watch for news
about the new website http://www.furrynightlive.org/ and the
"furrynightlive" LiveJournal community!


3. We welcome our second Guest of Honor 

We are pleased to announce the second Guest of Honor for Further
Confusion 2008.  Dave Barclay, of PerformFX will be joining us in
January.  Dave is a professional puppeteer whose credits range from
Cats and Dogs (working as the lead performance coordinator) to Who
Framed Roger Rabbit (the lead puppeteer) to the Star Wars saga
(puppeteer of Jabba the Hutt), and many, many more.

We are honored to bring this master-level puppeteer to our event, and
expect him to bring some of his puppets to demonstrate their use.
Between artist Moira Hahn and puppeteer Dave Barclay, not to mention
special performer Alexander James Adams, we expect this to be a year you
won't soon forget.


4. We need DJ's

We are still seeking a few good furs to help out with the dances for
this upcoming FC in January.  If you like to make people dance, or
watch them dance, or even draw them dance, this is for you.  This is
also for you if you just like music and not really into dancing.

We're still seeking some people who can do real time video mixing.
Wanna be a VJ?  Email and let's talk.  Also, we're planning some new
things this year like Live Action Drawing.  If you want to be under
the spotlight and drawing while listening to the music and watching
people dancing all around you, shoot us an email.

DJ's, we've gotten many submissions, but still need some more.  We'll
be finalizing the schedule at the end of the month, so get a demo in
now if you're interested.  In particular, we're in need of DJ's who
can do non-techno styles (rock, pop, 80's, etc...)  You don't need to
be a master DJ mixer, just need to have a good selection of music.
And we also are in need of some DJ's who can do down-tempo/ambient for
the second area during the main dance.  (And yes, still accepting
demos of every style for all the dances - the schedule has not been
set yet!!!)

If you're interested in any of this stuff, or helping out with the
dances in any way you can imagine, send an email to
dj-submissions at furtherconfusion.org

If you've previously sent in an email, but never heard back from
anyone, don't be afraid to send it again.  We'd rather get 2 emails
from you than none at all.


5. The next meeting is November 10th:

Please come and join us for the next public Further Confusion staff
meeting. Many of our departments are still looking for helpful furs.  Come
be part of something great and volunteer. This con would be impossible
without the help of well over 150 staffers. The meeting starts at noon at
our wonderful Double Tree Hotel in San Jose. Look at any LCD screen for
"Further Confusion..." to see what meeting room we are in.


-- 
Further Confusion
info at furtherconfusion.org
http://www.furtherconfusion.org/

From loopfurwalker at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  5 12:00:33 2007
From: loopfurwalker at yahoo.com (loop furwalker)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:00:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: My ideas for fur-suits.....etc.....
Message-ID: <366220.98141.qm@web58410.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

I would like to, first-off, I would like to try either a wolf or a coyote suit. (Or something in a catalog or other "informational-books".......etc......)
   
  I don't have the measurements with me at the moment,yet, (I'm using somebody else's computer for now), but, as I've said above, I would like to try "passing-on" my ideas for fur-suits......etc....or just the artworks and technical drawings I've come up with over the past couple of years since I *discovered* the "worlds-of-furry-ness", as well as the others....etc....
   
  (I've looked up in comics and "real-based" books fo all the information I can about the above subjects I've mentioned.....etc......I even tried looking up some of the RPG system games too ------- My  favorites are Rift (don't have any books yet, though), and Werewolf: The Apocalypse -------- You should see my "orders-from-borders", about $350.00 per "pile" or "stack" of books, magazines, comics, and other related materials......etc....)
   
  For the most part I like the statistics and general information for each of the products I've purchased so far, also, the "art" of course ------ I lkie the way the artists "do-their-thing".
   
  (I've purchased things (for Apocalypse) like the "Story-Teller's Screen" (I love *generating* worlds, characters, and other related materials--------I also, of course everybody does, like Star Wars and Star Trek items.........plus the whole genre of science fiction and fantasy-------------------studying each auther's styles and techniques from their books to TV and movie-related items.......I've been trying to get different ideas for costumes. (As I've said before: I love to draw and write------When I run out of one thing (paper/writing paper) I go back to the other mediums------no drawing paper----write------no writing paper-----draw---------too bad I don't have a scanner to show you my *millions* of drawings......some colored, some not.)
   
  Enough about that for now -----------more later as you get to know me (I hope we have a "good-relationship" (whomever I'm writing to----------no, I'm not gay but I like "furry" stuff for some "sexual" and "ethical" reasons --------- probably from my "weird-childhood" and how I got to be this way when I grew up-----------now I'm at "middle-age" (40 years old approx.)
   
  (If you want *my* stats I'll give you as much as I can ------ don't worry I won't ask you for any money like Dafur (I've got 450 messages or "hits" in my file----they drive me crazy!!), unless you offer a catalog or other books, refs, etc.......let me know what's up if you (or I) do anything further)
   
  My Wolf (or Coyote) characters: (at least a little bit about one, the other, or both---for now)
   
  Gender: Adult male (wolf or coyote, maybe a suggestion of another animal or other creatures)----- approx. my age (40 or 40+, or older or younger-----it depends if the character has "signs-of-aging" (crowsfeet, or some-other type of "ailment".....etc....I won't go into details myself, unless I (or you) want to, or whatever. Whatever comes of this!!)
   
  Colorization: (prefs include "real" colors from tan to black ---- descisions will come later on)
   
  Fur thickness: very smooth or very thick ------ depending on the character's backgrounds....etc....) Younger characters have "light" fur while older ones have "thick" fur.
   
  Costume: (if any) ------ character will either be "nude" or "natural" if I choose to have him that way, or, if the character has a costume make it a vest with a t-shirt underneath (white), and, if he wears pants (unless my costume has a tail, or "hole" in the back for a tail), depending on that, I might just "through-some-things-on" myself------unless you've got "pictures" and/or "attatchments" to send me or let me know what Ideas you've had (and others) over the years since you've started.....etc.....) (I'll let you know what I want------if/when I want to know things).
   
  Accessories: old-weapons, Star Wars or Star Trek props (I've got two "defunct" communicators from the old series and a "defunct" "phaser-2" (what Kirk and Spock carry on their "away-missions"--------plus I've got a whole lot of sound effect and music CD's------mostly from the "above", as well as "Dr. Demeto" stuff and Disney recordings and movies------------I like stuff like that-----I've also got a whole collection of art books (for both "real" and "imaginary" character refs.........I miss some of the "un-related" game books I've had------I moved----they didn't!! (I no longer trust my "direct-relatives"-------they "robbed-me-blind" or threw things I away when I went away to school.......etc....untrustworthy!! I've been "trying-to-get-all-my-books-back" the "hard-way": just looking up what I've had and adding on some more materials....etc.....) As Stan Lee says in his "mail-bag"----- 'Nuff said!!)
   
  ***** You can tell what I like when I make reffs to different things *****
   
  Background: (I've got millions of them, depending on my characters of old to the present ones.......etc.....I'll let you know a few at a time------otherwise I'll be "blowing-your-mind" too!!)
   
  (Some of my characters are "post-apocalyptic", "genetic-lifeforms", and/or "werewolf-hybrids"---------I've studied most of the "real" animal species too, to get that sort-of information....etc.....other characters are just "regular"-----like cartoon and/or comic-book-style characters--------most of the ideas are 1. My own, and 2. things I've gotten out of libraries, bookstores, and other "places-of-knowledge".....etc....you should see my *collection* ------ its "VERY-HUGE"!!! (depending on the "buying/selling-processes" I've got and "finagled" over the years......bit-by-bit its gotten large and larger------If I move again, hopefully not for a long time, I'm going to photo-copy and put my texts and drawings on my computer-links (general, no internet at my house yet), and put them inside a *HUGE* archive-stack for wherever I go in this life ----- I'll stop off and pick up my fur-suit in the mean-time too, wherever it will be made, and/or purchased by me------I'm also
 *Dying" to go to a "Fur-Con" or other type of convention----but, as I've mentioned before, in another place, I live in a place called Keene, New Hampshire (deep in the heart of the "backwoods" territories. There's cities and towns around but the people around here still like to use "apples and oranges" for their computers and othe things------I also love the way everybody still uses "Netscape-Navigator" for internet "blogging" -----I've been around----I know what's out there, in the "Great-Beyond"!! Apple2E's are so much fun ----- I also like using the "Happy-Macs" they have at the local colleges and schools around here ------ a sort-of "techno-western-motif")
   
  The "background" itself:
   
  Character 1: A large male wolf (or coyote, or other animal-form).....................
   
  (For this "experiment" I'll choose a "tan" fur color, bushy body-hairs and a large bushy tail at the back -------- for the "facial-features" I'd like a "big-bad-wolf" motif: "My what big ears, eyes, nose, snout, teeth, mane, and other "features".....etc....naked or clothed.....etc....)
   
  (The character is kind of like me---the same kind of "regular-muscular" motif ----- I don't work out that much but I do excersice a lot ------- walking and "hanging-out-with-my-friends" downtown--------just the way a "phase 1" character would look ---- unless I specify anything different-------I'll try to get you some "PG-rated" (clothed) pictures of myself-----through attatchments or "postal-mails" ---- or I'll just describe things as I want them....etc....)
   
  (The character is single ----- unless he looks into "Animal E-Harmony" ---- 29 dimensions of "beastiality" ------ see the "local-zoos" for mor details.....etc.....he might ask for a "girlfriend" at somepoint. Character does not wish to have "relatives" mentioned at this time,as of yet)
   
  More information later -------- I've got to go because I was "told" to "vamoose!!" by the person "running" the organization that I'm using ---- they all frown on people using other applications on the web ----- like "non-job" ones.........I wish I had the web at home, but I don't!! Sorry!!)
   
  (I'll give you "my-regs" later, in a letter or email......or whatever!!)
   
  As I say to everybody:
   
  Buy, bye, and reply!!
   
  (Until the "next-dimension)......
   
   

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From loopfurwalker at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  5 12:00:41 2007
From: loopfurwalker at yahoo.com (loop furwalker)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:00:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: My ideas for fur-suits.....etc.....
Message-ID: <967369.14284.qm@web58413.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

I would like to, first-off, I would like to try either a wolf or a coyote suit. (Or something in a catalog or other "informational-books".......etc......)
   
  I don't have the measurements with me at the moment,yet, (I'm using somebody else's computer for now), but, as I've said above, I would like to try "passing-on" my ideas for fur-suits......etc....or just the artworks and technical drawings I've come up with over the past couple of years since I *discovered* the "worlds-of-furry-ness", as well as the others....etc....
   
  (I've looked up in comics and "real-based" books fo all the information I can about the above subjects I've mentioned.....etc......I even tried looking up some of the RPG system games too ------- My  favorites are Rift (don't have any books yet, though), and Werewolf: The Apocalypse -------- You should see my "orders-from-borders", about $350.00 per "pile" or "stack" of books, magazines, comics, and other related materials......etc....)
   
  For the most part I like the statistics and general information for each of the products I've purchased so far, also, the "art" of course ------ I lkie the way the artists "do-their-thing".
   
  (I've purchased things (for Apocalypse) like the "Story-Teller's Screen" (I love *generating* worlds, characters, and other related materials--------I also, of course everybody does, like Star Wars and Star Trek items.........plus the whole genre of science fiction and fantasy-------------------studying each auther's styles and techniques from their books to TV and movie-related items.......I've been trying to get different ideas for costumes. (As I've said before: I love to draw and write------When I run out of one thing (paper/writing paper) I go back to the other mediums------no drawing paper----write------no writing paper-----draw---------too bad I don't have a scanner to show you my *millions* of drawings......some colored, some not.)
   
  Enough about that for now -----------more later as you get to know me (I hope we have a "good-relationship" (whomever I'm writing to----------no, I'm not gay but I like "furry" stuff for some "sexual" and "ethical" reasons --------- probably from my "weird-childhood" and how I got to be this way when I grew up-----------now I'm at "middle-age" (40 years old approx.)
   
  (If you want *my* stats I'll give you as much as I can ------ don't worry I won't ask you for any money like Dafur (I've got 450 messages or "hits" in my file----they drive me crazy!!), unless you offer a catalog or other books, refs, etc.......let me know what's up if you (or I) do anything further)
   
  My Wolf (or Coyote) characters: (at least a little bit about one, the other, or both---for now)
   
  Gender: Adult male (wolf or coyote, maybe a suggestion of another animal or other creatures)----- approx. my age (40 or 40+, or older or younger-----it depends if the character has "signs-of-aging" (crowsfeet, or some-other type of "ailment".....etc....I won't go into details myself, unless I (or you) want to, or whatever. Whatever comes of this!!)
   
  Colorization: (prefs include "real" colors from tan to black ---- descisions will come later on)
   
  Fur thickness: very smooth or very thick ------ depending on the character's backgrounds....etc....) Younger characters have "light" fur while older ones have "thick" fur.
   
  Costume: (if any) ------ character will either be "nude" or "natural" if I choose to have him that way, or, if the character has a costume make it a vest with a t-shirt underneath (white), and, if he wears pants (unless my costume has a tail, or "hole" in the back for a tail), depending on that, I might just "through-some-things-on" myself------unless you've got "pictures" and/or "attatchments" to send me or let me know what Ideas you've had (and others) over the years since you've started.....etc.....) (I'll let you know what I want------if/when I want to know things).
   
  Accessories: old-weapons, Star Wars or Star Trek props (I've got two "defunct" communicators from the old series and a "defunct" "phaser-2" (what Kirk and Spock carry on their "away-missions"--------plus I've got a whole lot of sound effect and music CD's------mostly from the "above", as well as "Dr. Demeto" stuff and Disney recordings and movies------------I like stuff like that-----I've also got a whole collection of art books (for both "real" and "imaginary" character refs.........I miss some of the "un-related" game books I've had------I moved----they didn't!! (I no longer trust my "direct-relatives"-------they "robbed-me-blind" or threw things I away when I went away to school.......etc....untrustworthy!! I've been "trying-to-get-all-my-books-back" the "hard-way": just looking up what I've had and adding on some more materials....etc.....) As Stan Lee says in his "mail-bag"----- 'Nuff said!!)
   
  ***** You can tell what I like when I make reffs to different things *****
   
  Background: (I've got millions of them, depending on my characters of old to the present ones.......etc.....I'll let you know a few at a time------otherwise I'll be "blowing-your-mind" too!!)
   
  (Some of my characters are "post-apocalyptic", "genetic-lifeforms", and/or "werewolf-hybrids"---------I've studied most of the "real" animal species too, to get that sort-of information....etc.....other characters are just "regular"-----like cartoon and/or comic-book-style characters--------most of the ideas are 1. My own, and 2. things I've gotten out of libraries, bookstores, and other "places-of-knowledge".....etc....you should see my *collection* ------ its "VERY-HUGE"!!! (depending on the "buying/selling-processes" I've got and "finagled" over the years......bit-by-bit its gotten large and larger------If I move again, hopefully not for a long time, I'm going to photo-copy and put my texts and drawings on my computer-links (general, no internet at my house yet), and put them inside a *HUGE* archive-stack for wherever I go in this life ----- I'll stop off and pick up my fur-suit in the mean-time too, wherever it will be made, and/or purchased by me------I'm also
 *Dying" to go to a "Fur-Con" or other type of convention----but, as I've mentioned before, in another place, I live in a place called Keene, New Hampshire (deep in the heart of the "backwoods" territories. There's cities and towns around but the people around here still like to use "apples and oranges" for their computers and othe things------I also love the way everybody still uses "Netscape-Navigator" for internet "blogging" -----I've been around----I know what's out there, in the "Great-Beyond"!! Apple2E's are so much fun ----- I also like using the "Happy-Macs" they have at the local colleges and schools around here ------ a sort-of "techno-western-motif")
   
  The "background" itself:
   
  Character 1: A large male wolf (or coyote, or other animal-form).....................
   
  (For this "experiment" I'll choose a "tan" fur color, bushy body-hairs and a large bushy tail at the back -------- for the "facial-features" I'd like a "big-bad-wolf" motif: "My what big ears, eyes, nose, snout, teeth, mane, and other "features".....etc....naked or clothed.....etc....)
   
  (The character is kind of like me---the same kind of "regular-muscular" motif ----- I don't work out that much but I do excersice a lot ------- walking and "hanging-out-with-my-friends" downtown--------just the way a "phase 1" character would look ---- unless I specify anything different-------I'll try to get you some "PG-rated" (clothed) pictures of myself-----through attatchments or "postal-mails" ---- or I'll just describe things as I want them....etc....)
   
  (The character is single ----- unless he looks into "Animal E-Harmony" ---- 29 dimensions of "beastiality" ------ see the "local-zoos" for mor details.....etc.....he might ask for a "girlfriend" at somepoint. Character does not wish to have "relatives" mentioned at this time,as of yet)
   
  More information later -------- I've got to go because I was "told" to "vamoose!!" by the person "running" the organization that I'm using ---- they all frown on people using other applications on the web ----- like "non-job" ones.........I wish I had the web at home, but I don't!! Sorry!!)
   
  (I'll give you "my-regs" later, in a letter or email......or whatever!!)
   
  As I say to everybody:
   
  Buy, bye, and reply!!
   
  (Until the "next-dimension)......
   
   

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From Tripncheata at aol.com  Mon Nov  5 12:13:41 2007
From: Tripncheata at aol.com (Tripncheata at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 12:13:41 EST
Subject: FL: My ideas for fur-suits.....etc.....
Message-ID: <c7c.17b79ce2.3460a945@aol.com>

That was quite a bit for me to read considering I just woke up. *smirk* To 
say the least I have a pretty good idea of what sort of person you are. I don't 
think it was all necessary but the effort and though is greatly appreciated, 
shows you care. as far as who you are writing to, I should think you know me 
but with all that perhaps not. I'm Omen and I will be your fursuit builder this 
evening (waitress joke...cheesy I know) But if you are looking for a wolf or a 
coyote either is fine by me all I really need is your reference sheet and the 
measurements and such. I'm fully open for commissions. it was fun reading 
your back ground stories and such.



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From Tripncheata at aol.com  Mon Nov  5 12:21:32 2007
From: Tripncheata at aol.com (Tripncheata at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 12:21:32 EST
Subject: FL: My ideas for fur-suits.....etc.....
Message-ID: <d11.18807e99.3460ab1c@aol.com>

Wait a minute I thought I ended my subscription to the list!? This is why I 
thought the e-mail was addressed to me. I guess I need to re- end my 
subscription



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From dlely at juno.com  Tue Nov  6 02:31:31 2007
From: dlely at juno.com (David L. Ely)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:31:31 -0800
Subject: FL: Pasadena (CA) Doo Dah Parade
Message-ID: <20071105.233239.4284.1.dlely@juno.com>

Fellow Doo Dahers:
 
It's my sad duty to report that there will NOT be a 31st Occasional
Pasadena Doo Dah Parade this calendar year as it has been postponed for
unknown reasons until Sunday the 20th of January 2008 (the Sunday before
Further Confusion 2008).
 
Despite this inconvenience I do plan on organizing the Coast to Coast
Critters group for this new date if enough interest exists.  In the mean
time, who's up for a "What the Heck, Let's Get Together For Lunch
Anyway!" gathering in Old Pasadena on the old Doo Dah Parade date (Sunday
18 November)?  If interested, contact me off-list at dlely at juno.com
 
David L. Ely - AKA: Scruff E. Coyote - dlely at juno.com
"How many hearts with warm blood in them are beating
under the cover of the woods . . . .   A multitude of
animal people, intimately related to us . . . are busy
about their own affairs as we are about ours." - John Muir

From RTRabbitNY at aol.com  Tue Nov  6 03:48:43 2007
From: RTRabbitNY at aol.com (RTRabbitNY at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 03:48:43 EST
Subject: FL: Pasadena (CA) Doo Dah Parade
Message-ID: <cbc.20545e93.3461846b@aol.com>

 
Thaddeus Fox tells me the old date now conflicts with something new in  
Pasadena this year called Shoppers Sunday.
 
Rapid T. Rabbit
 
 
In a message dated 11/6/2007 2:41:01 A.M. Eastern Standard  Time, Scruff E. 
writes:

It's my  sad duty to report that there will NOT be a 31st Occasional
Pasadena Doo  Dah Parade this calendar year as it has been postponed for
unknown reasons  until Sunday the 20th of January 2008 (the Sunday before
Further Confusion  2008).


 



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From albear2 at att.net  Tue Nov  6 09:46:12 2007
From: albear2 at att.net (Al Bear)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 06:46:12 -0800
Subject: FL: Pasadena (CA) Doo Dah Parade
References: <cbc.20545e93.3461846b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <003201c82083$c77ece00$6401a8c0@albeardesktop>

Never heard of Shopper's Sunday either! Not cool to just dump a tradition for something like this. The Doo Dah PArade is like Rodney Dangerfield, it gets no respect!

Al Bear

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  From: RTRabbitNY at aol.com 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:48 AM
  Subject: Re: FL: Pasadena (CA) Doo Dah Parade


  Thaddeus Fox tells me the old date now conflicts with something new in Pasadena this year called Shoppers Sunday.

  Rapid T. Rabbit


  In a message dated 11/6/2007 2:41:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Scruff E. writes:
    It's my sad duty to report that there will NOT be a 31st Occasional
    Pasadena Doo Dah Parade this calendar year as it has been postponed for
    unknown reasons until Sunday the 20th of January 2008 (the Sunday before
    Further Confusion 2008).






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From handleslikemagic at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  7 14:36:44 2007
From: handleslikemagic at yahoo.com (piotrsious davistikov)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 11:36:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: My ideas for fur-suits.....etc.....
In-Reply-To: <c7c.17b79ce2.3460a945@aol.com>
Message-ID: <578054.50206.qm@web56907.mail.re3.yahoo.com>



Tripncheata at aol.com wrote:   That was quite a bit for me to read considering I just woke up. *smirk* To say the least I have a pretty good idea of what sort of person you are. I don't think it was all necessary but the effort and though is greatly appreciated, shows you care. as far as who you are writing to, I should think you know me but with all that perhaps not. I'm Omen and I will be your fursuit builder this evening (waitress joke...cheesy I know) But if you are looking for a wolf or a coyote either is fine by me all I really need is your reference sheet and the measurements and such. I'm fully open for commissions. it was fun reading your back ground stories and such.
It really isn't a coyote or a wolf though....My character looks like a wolf and a dog but has properties of a scalies through the body and etc. So my character is a Digimon which is representative of the term Hybrid. 

Unfortunately, I don't know who you are n_n; >> Am I supposed too?

<Giggles.> Anyway, cool beans but I really don't know how to use the site much yet...its been irritating me ^0^..

Lonely Gabu

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From dragon at owc.net  Mon Nov 12 01:25:27 2007
From: dragon at owc.net (Firewing)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:25:27 -0600
Subject: FL: Ratatouille Fursuits
Message-ID: <4737F1D7.8040103@owc.net>

Hi,

	Not sure who's seen these, but here:

http://img.lulz.net/src/565948838_b846b6d46c.jpg

	 Might this picture been taken at Disneyland or World?

					-Firewing


From grey_llama at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 12 12:16:54 2007
From: grey_llama at yahoo.com (Sean Rook)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:16:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Ratatouille Fursuits
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1194886808.13729.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <360424.19981.qm@web57606.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Pixar is a part of Disney so could be Disney World.  I
remember seeing pics of the suits when the movie
premiered, they're very nicely made.  Wish I'd seen
some suits of Surf's Up characters too.

-Lynx

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> 
>    1.  Ratatouille Fursuits (Firewing)
> 
> 
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:25:27 -0600
> From: Firewing <dragon at owc.net>
> Subject: FL: Ratatouille Fursuits
> To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org
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> Hi,
> 
> 	Not sure who's seen these, but here:
> 
> http://img.lulz.net/src/565948838_b846b6d46c.jpg
> 
> 	 Might this picture been taken at Disneyland or
> World?
> 
> 					-Firewing
> 


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From minnieme4rl at aol.com  Mon Nov 12 12:47:51 2007
From: minnieme4rl at aol.com (minnieme4rl at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:47:51 -0500
Subject: FL: Ratatouille Fursuits
In-Reply-To: <360424.19981.qm@web57606.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8C9F36B47C06336-1038-16EB@FWM-M07.sysops.aol.com>

These pictures were taken at Disneyland in Anaheim. ?I can recognize the buildings of New Orleans Square in the background.



Minnie

(Who used to work at the original Disneyland and Disneyland Paris)


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To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 9:16 am
Subject: Re: FL: Ratatouille Fursuits








Pixar is a part of Disney so could be Disney World.  I
remember seeing pics of the suits when the movie
premiered, they're very nicely made.  Wish I'd seen
some suits of Surf's Up characters too.

-Lynx

--- fursuit-list-request at lists.fursuit.org wrote:


> Today's Topics:
> 
>    1.  Ratatouille Fursuits (Firewing)
> 
> 
>
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> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:25:27 -0600
> From: Firewing <dragon at owc.net>
> Subject: FL: Ratatouille Fursuits
> To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org
> Message-ID: <4737F1D7.8040103 at owc.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii;
> format=flowed
> 
> Hi,
> 
>   Not sure who's seen these, but here:
> 
> http://img.lulz.net/src/565948838_b846b6d46c.jpg
> 
>    Might this picture been taken at Disneyland or
> World?
> 
>                   -Firewing
> 


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From camerapup at charter.net  Mon Nov 12 20:00:34 2007
From: camerapup at charter.net (Camerapup)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:00:34 -0800
Subject: FL: Ratatouille Fursuits
In-Reply-To: <360424.19981.qm@web57606.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <360424.19981.qm@web57606.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C474B920390D4174A7E5BE02C7764E38@DualCorePC>

i have a pic from surf's up, and for reason's of national security i have 
erased the background :) na j/k'ing but did blank out the background

http://www.camerapup.com/surfsup.jpg

Camerapup

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From: "Sean Rook" <grey_llama at yahoo.com>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 09:16 AM
Subject: Re: FL: Ratatouille Fursuits


> Pixar is a part of Disney so could be Disney World.  I
> remember seeing pics of the suits when the movie
> premiered, they're very nicely made.  Wish I'd seen
> some suits of Surf's Up characters too.
>
> -Lynx
>
> --- fursuit-list-request at lists.fursuit.org wrote:
>
>
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>    1.  Ratatouille Fursuits (Firewing)
>>
>>
>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:25:27 -0600
>> From: Firewing <dragon at owc.net>
>> Subject: FL: Ratatouille Fursuits
>> To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org
>> Message-ID: <4737F1D7.8040103 at owc.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii;
>> format=flowed
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Not sure who's seen these, but here:
>>
>> http://img.lulz.net/src/565948838_b846b6d46c.jpg
>>
>> Might this picture been taken at Disneyland or
>> World?
>>
>> -Firewing
>>
>
>
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From baar_bear at cox.net  Mon Nov 12 21:53:31 2007
From: baar_bear at cox.net (Michael Setzer)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:53:31 -0700
Subject: FL: New Additions to my website
Message-ID: <473911AB.9020008@cox.net>

        Hi gang, Ba'ar here. Just a note to let you know that I've added 
some new pictures to my fursuiting website.  Check them out 
under.http://baarsden.itgo.com/seen.html (Halloween 2007) and 
http://baarsden.itgo.com/baarlife.html (scroll down to the last picture 
on the left).  Enjoy!


From kody_wolf at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 12 22:43:17 2007
From: kody_wolf at yahoo.com (Kody Wolf)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:43:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 19, Issue 4
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1194886808.13729.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <662166.87429.qm@web62512.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Yup - definitely!
I saw them there this past summer! :)
~Kody Wolf

fursuit-list-request at lists.fursuit.org wrote:

When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of Fursuit-list digest..."


Today's Topics:

   1.  Ratatouille Fursuits (Firewing)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:25:27 -0600
From: Firewing 
Subject: FL: Ratatouille Fursuits
To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org
Message-ID: <4737F1D7.8040103 at owc.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

Hi,

 Not sure who's seen these, but here:

http://img.lulz.net/src/565948838_b846b6d46c.jpg

  Might this picture been taken at Disneyland or World?

     -Firewing

       
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From sales at action-actors.com  Mon Nov 19 22:40:32 2007
From: sales at action-actors.com (sales)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:40:32 -0500
Subject: FL: Ratatouille Fursuits
In-Reply-To: <360424.19981.qm@web57606.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20071120034735.5E2A821648@penfold.furryhost.com>

What happened to the photos?

-----Original Message-----
From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
[mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Sean Rook
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 12:17 PM
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Subject: Re: FL: Ratatouille Fursuits

Pixar is a part of Disney so could be Disney World.  I
remember seeing pics of the suits when the movie
premiered, they're very nicely made.  Wish I'd seen
some suits of Surf's Up characters too.

-Lynx

--- fursuit-list-request at lists.fursuit.org wrote:


> Today's Topics:
> 
>    1.  Ratatouille Fursuits (Firewing)
> 
> 
>
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> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:25:27 -0600
> From: Firewing <dragon at owc.net>
> Subject: FL: Ratatouille Fursuits
> To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org
> Message-ID: <4737F1D7.8040103 at owc.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii;
> format=flowed
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 	Not sure who's seen these, but here:
> 
> http://img.lulz.net/src/565948838_b846b6d46c.jpg
> 
> 	 Might this picture been taken at Disneyland or
> World?
> 
> 					-Firewing
> 


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From baar_bear at cox.net  Fri Nov 23 01:17:56 2007
From: baar_bear at cox.net (Michael Setzer)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 23:17:56 -0700
Subject: FL: Ba'ar's Fan Club
Message-ID: <47467094.6060702@cox.net>

    Greetings all, Ba'ar here. For a while now you've been visiting my 
fursuiting website (http;//baarsden.itgo.com-which, in my ever so humble 
opinion, is rather cool.;-D).. I thank you for that.  I also do updates 
from time to time to make my website bigger and better.  If you'd like 
to know when I do, join Ba'ar's fan club.  It's a free mailing list that 
lets you know when I do update the site and what I've done to make the 
site even better than before. It's easy and best of all free.   Just 
send e-mail to baarsfanclub-subscribe at googlegroups.com (or if you prefer 
go to my website, click on the 'Ba'ar's Fan Club' link and follow the 
instructions that you get).  Thanks for listening.


From francisco-sender-6f5fe9 at vulpes.net  Tue Nov 27 20:15:39 2007
From: francisco-sender-6f5fe9 at vulpes.net (Francisco Azinsan)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:15:39 -0600
Subject: FL: FC2008 November Newsletter
Message-ID: <20071128011539.GA13437@critter.net>

Further Confusion 2008 - November Newsletter

In this issue:
1.  Pre-Registration closes December 30th
2.  FCTV Needs Your Help
3.  Furry Night Live '08 - Ninja Master seeks disciples
4.  Art Show is Sold Out
5.  Furry Market Place almost Sold Out
6.  Species Track Panel Information
7.  Would you like to take a survey?
8.  Further Confusion 2008 in Second Life
9.  Next Public Meeting

                                . o O o . 

1.  Pre-Registration closes December 30th

Just a reminder that with the holidays fast approaching, the deadline for
pre-registration cutoff is 11:59pm (Pacific time) December 30th.

<http://www.furtherconfusion.org/fc2008/registration>


2.  FCTV Needs Your Help

FCTV is seeking staff to help with our production at Further Confusion
2008! If you have any experience in any of the following areas, please
send a short blurb about your skills to fctv at furtherconfusion.org. We are
looking for the following:

- Camera Operators
- Video Switcher Operator (aka, Technical Director)
- Technical Assistant

We're mostly looking for camera operators. This will mostly entail you
operating a camera on a tripod. You must be able to follow directions from
the director on a headset and know how to smoothly pan, tilt and zoom a
camera when you're on "Live". We will need you during most of the main
events happening at main stage. Provided we have enough volunteers for
camera, you won't need to be on a camera at all events (unless you want to
be).

We also need camera operators to do handheld video for events such as
Critter Olympics and other panels as needed. This means you should have a
steady hand if you're doing something where a tripod is not applicable,
and be able to keep a reasonable shot at other times if you are on a
tripod

For Video Switcher, we need someone who can operate a video switcher
(Training can be provided, but prior experience is a big bonus) and follow
directions from the director. This basically means you listen to the
director to tell you which camera to switch to, and switch to that camera
when told. In some circumstances, when the director is not available, the
video switcher will need to make their own decisions about which camera to
go to.

Technical assistant will help FCTV Lead and/or Second with technical
related tasks. This may include running cables, hooking up equipment and
running tapes and batteries around to camera operators during a live
performance.


If any of these things sound interesting to you, and you can spare some
time (Even if for just 1 event), please email fctv at furtherconfusion.org.


3.  Furry Night Live '08 - Ninja Master seeks disciples

Ninja SUMMON! We are seeking intrepid souls who are organized, punctual
and silent to fill our Stage Ninja Dojo. Please contact us at
fnl at furtherconfusion.org

Furry Night Live 2008 approaches quickly! FC's Sunday evening stage show
features a variety of furry acts performed live. New this year we are
accepting short video segments to complement the live on-stage acts. If
you have an act or are otherwise interested in participating, it is vital
you join the FNL08 discussion mailing list at
<http://www.furtherconfusion.org/fc2008/signup/fnl>

PLEASE NOTE: We will be shooting for a rough lineup by mid-January, and
space is limited. If you have any special requirements beyond plain CD/DVD
playback - live audio, instruments, or other custom audio sources, be sure
to contact us at fnl at furtherconfusion.org or we may not be able to fulfill
your needs. Don't wait for FC itself! Also watch for news about the new
website <http://www.furrynightlive.org/> and the "furrynightlive"
LiveJournal community!


4.  Art Show is Sold Out

General space in the art show is sold out. Any new applications may be put
onto our waiting list in case panels open up later on. Also, if you intend
to bring art to the show "just in case", please e-mail us at
artshow at furtherconfusion.org so we can plan, and keep you informed.


5.  Furry Market Place almost Sold Out

The Furry Market Place is almost sold out. Sales will close on December
1st, 2007. At the time of this writing there are only 3 spaces left.


6.  Species Track Panel Information

For all you species panel enthusiasts, we have 12 different panels this
year.  All the regulars will be represented, including aquatic furs,
avians, canines, dragons & scalies, felines, foxes, hybrid furs,
minotaurs, and rodents. But we've also got two new ones:  Gryphons and
Rabbits.  Panels begin Thursday evening at 9pm with the last one ending on
Sunday at 3:30pm.  Come and enjoy both fact and fiction, fans and
specialists!


7.  Would you like to take a survey?

Further Confusion Gaming needs you! This year will feature the FC debut of
Fur-mily Feud, and we need survey answers! The first set of questions has
already been posted to the 'furcon' LiveJournal and our forums (at
<http://www.furtherconfusion.org/forums/>), and a new set will be posted
every Thursday. Every answer you give us helps us put on a great show!
Also, starting in December, FC Gaming will start accepting applications
for five-player teams to play Fur-mily Feud live at FC! You don't want to
miss this great new show!  Details for how to apply will be posted
separately. 


8.  Further Confusion 2008 in Second Life

If you play SecondLife be sure to come visit our beautiful themed club
house on Critter Valley at (164, 162, 22). Get your free tee shirts from
the vendors in our information kiosk, collect the whole set! Join our
group "FURther CONfusion"(note the spelling) - its free too! Come
enjoy a variety of games in our games park just over the bridge to the
south of the club house area.


9.  Next Public Meeting

Our next staff meeting will be December 15th starting at noon in the San
Jose Doubletree. Come be part of something great and volunteer. Look at
any LCD screen for "Further Confusion..." to see what meeting room we are
in.

-- 
Further Confusion
info at furtherconfusion.org
<http://www.furtherconfusion.org/>

From minnieme4rl at aol.com  Thu Nov 29 13:18:06 2007
From: minnieme4rl at aol.com (minnieme4rl at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:18:06 -0500
Subject: FL: Fwd: Fwd(2): virus warning
In-Reply-To: <00AE44BC9CFA9D4BB256656ACD8EF79F01B37DBC@cuhsd-ex2003.cuhsd-int.prv>
References: <00AE44BC9CFA9D4BB256656ACD8EF79F01B37DBC@cuhsd-ex2003.cuhsd-int.prv>
Message-ID: <8CA00CB52889484-AC8-A98@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com>




-----Original Message-----
From: Kristen Kim <kkim at cuhsd.org>
To: minnieme4rl at aol.com
Sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:16 am
Subject: FW: Fwd(2): virus warning





-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Bojorquez 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:21 AM
To: All Users
Subject: FW: Fwd(2): virus warning

Just in case.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kris Estrada [mailto:Kris_Estrada at sjusd.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:59 AM
To: Jim Bojorquez; Patricia Sepulveda; Patti Vongsa
Subject: Fwd(2): virus warning

Good Morning Friends,

I haven't read the news yet, or listened to the radio to hear about this
reported virus, but just in case:

Michael, do you have a disk I could borrow to run anti-virus on my
school computer.....I know it is infected in the Microsoft suite.

Thanks and a hug to each of you,

Mary 


Anyone-using Internet mail such as Yahoo, Hotmail, AOL and so on. 

This information arrived this morning, Direct from both Microsoft and
Norton. 

Please send it to everybody you know who has access to the Internet. 

You may receive an apparently harmless e-mail with a Power Point 
presentation ' Life is Beautiful '

If you receive it DO NOT OPEN THE FILE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE S, 
and delete it immediately.

If you open this file, a message will appear on your screen saying: 

'It is too late now, your life is no longer beautiful.' 

Subsequently you will LOSE EVERYTHING IN YOUR PC, and the person who
sent it to you will gain access to your name, e-mail and password. 

This is a new virus which started to circulate on Saturday afternoon. 

AOL has already confirmed the severity, and the anti virus software's
are not capable of destroying it.

The virus has been created by a hacker who calls himself 'life owner.' 

PLEASE SEND A COPY OF TH IS E-MAIL TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS, and ask them to
PASS IT ON IMMEDIATELY!         


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From matrixportal at gmail.com  Thu Nov 29 15:41:42 2007
From: matrixportal at gmail.com (B C)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:41:42 -0500
Subject: FL: Fwd: Fwd(2): virus warning
In-Reply-To: <8CA00CB52889484-AC8-A98@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com>
References: <00AE44BC9CFA9D4BB256656ACD8EF79F01B37DBC@cuhsd-ex2003.cuhsd-int.prv>
	<8CA00CB52889484-AC8-A98@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <c9a8951e0711291241x63e6a4a8kb494ae6988dd0e2d@mail.gmail.com>

This is Hoax from 2002 !!!!!

*PLEASE look into something before fowarding it!*

*You* *are only contributing to the chain mail / junk mail problem if you
don't!*
**
that is what google is for    http://www.google.com   using the search term
*"life is beautiful virus"* turned up these results (it took 2 seconds to
find out it is a hoax)

http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2002-011511-0444-99
http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/life.asp
http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/lifevirus.html



On Nov 29, 2007 1:18 PM, <minnieme4rl at aol.com> wrote:

>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kristen Kim <kkim at cuhsd.org>
> To: minnieme4rl at aol.com
> Sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:16 am
> Subject: FW: Fwd(2): virus warning
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Bojorquez
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:21 AM
> To: All Users
> Subject: FW: Fwd(2): virus warning
>
> Just in case.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kris Estrada [mailto:Kris_Estrada at sjusd.org <Kris_Estrada at sjusd.org?>]
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:59 AM
> To: Jim Bojorquez; Patricia Sepulveda; Patti Vongsa
> Subject: Fwd(2): virus warning
>
> Good Morning Friends,
>
> I haven't read the news yet, or listened to the radio to hear about this
> reported virus, but just in case:
>
> Michael, do you have a disk I could borrow to run anti-virus on my
> school computer.....I know it is infected in the Microsoft suite.
>
> Thanks and a hug to each of you,
>
> Mary
>
>
> Anyone-using Internet mail such as Yahoo, Hotmail, AOL and so on.
>
> This information arrived this morning, Direct from both Microsoft and
> Norton.
>
> Please send it to everybody you know who has access to the Internet.
>
> You may receive an apparently harmless e-mail with a Power Point
> presentation ' Life is Beautiful '
>
> If you receive it DO NOT OPEN THE FILE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE S,
> and delete it immediately.
>
> If you open this file, a message will appear on your screen saying:
>
> 'It is too late now, your life is no longer beautiful.'
>
> Subsequently you will LOSE EVERYTHING IN YOUR PC, and the person who
> sent it to you will gain access to your name, e-mail and password.
>
> This is a new virus which started to circulate on Saturday afternoon.
>
> AOL has already confirmed the severity, and the anti virus software's
> are not capable of destroying it.
>
> The virus has been created by a hacker who calls himself 'life owner.'
>
> PLEASE SEND A COPY OF TH IS E-MAIL TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS, and ask them to
> PASS IT ON IMMEDIATELY!
>
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From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Thu Nov 29 15:51:37 2007
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (Cyan FOX)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:51:37 -0500
Subject: FL: Fwd: Fwd(2): virus warning
In-Reply-To: <c9a8951e0711291241x63e6a4a8kb494ae6988dd0e2d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00AE44BC9CFA9D4BB256656ACD8EF79F01B37DBC@cuhsd-ex2003.cuhsd-int.prv>
	<8CA00CB52889484-AC8-A98@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com>
	<c9a8951e0711291241x63e6a4a8kb494ae6988dd0e2d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b1c118750711291251q1baaef38xc7404fa5ed48b114@mail.gmail.com>

people on interwebs are smart!  -- (sarc)

On Nov 29, 2007 3:41 PM, B C <matrixportal at gmail.com> wrote:
> This is Hoax from 2002 !!!!!
>
> PLEASE look into something before fowarding it!
>
> You are only contributing to the chain mail / junk mail problem if you
> don't!
>
> that is what google is for    http://www.google.com   using the search term
> "life is beautiful virus" turned up these results (it took 2 seconds to find
> out it is a hoax)
>
> http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2002-011511-0444-99
> http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/life.asp
>
> http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/lifevirus.html
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2007 1:18 PM, <minnieme4rl at aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kristen Kim < kkim at cuhsd.org>
> > To: minnieme4rl at aol.com
> > Sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:16 am
> > Subject: FW: Fwd(2): virus warning
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Bojorquez
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:21 AM
> > To: All Users
> > Subject: FW: Fwd(2): virus warning
> >
> > Just in case.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kris Estrada [mailto:Kris_Estrada at sjusd.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:59 AM
> > To: Jim Bojorquez; Patricia Sepulveda; Patti Vongsa
> > Subject: Fwd(2): virus warning
> >
> > Good Morning Friends,
> >
> > I haven't read the news yet, or listened to the radio to hear about this
> > reported virus, but just in case:
> >
> > Michael, do you have a disk I could borrow to run anti-virus on my
> > school computer.....I know it is infected in the Microsoft suite.
> >
> > Thanks and a hug to each of you,
> >
> > Mary
> >
> >
> > Anyone-using Internet mail such as Yahoo, Hotmail, AOL and so on.
> >
> > This information arrived this morning, Direct from both Microsoft and
> > Norton.
> >
> > Please send it to everybody you know who has access to the Internet.
> >
> > You may receive an apparently harmless e-mail with a Power Point
> > presentation ' Life is Beautiful '
> >
> > If you receive it DO NOT OPEN THE FILE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE S,
> > and delete it immediately.
> >
> > If you open this file, a message will appear on your screen saying:
> >
> > 'It is too late now, your life is no longer beautiful.'
> >
> > Subsequently you will LOSE EVERYTHING IN YOUR PC, and the person who
> > sent it to you will gain access to your name, e-mail and password.
> >
> > This is a new virus which started to circulate on Saturday afternoon.
> >
> > AOL has already confirmed the severity, and the anti virus software's
> > are not capable of destroying it.
> >
> > The virus has been created by a hacker who calls himself 'life owner.'
> >
> > PLEASE SEND A COPY OF TH IS E-MAIL TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS, and ask them to
> > PASS IT ON IMMEDIATELY!
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
>  More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail!
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
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From lildobe at lildobe.net  Thu Nov 29 15:37:01 2007
From: lildobe at lildobe.net (Andrew "Dobie" Koch)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:37:01 -0500
Subject: FL: Fwd: Fwd(2): virus warning
In-Reply-To: <8CA00CB52889484-AC8-A98@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com>
References: <00AE44BC9CFA9D4BB256656ACD8EF79F01B37DBC@cuhsd-ex2003.cuhsd-int.prv>
	<8CA00CB52889484-AC8-A98@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <474F22ED.7070503@lildobe.net>

You should check on things like this before forwarding them....


http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/life.asp

Dobie


minnieme4rl at aol.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kristen Kim <kkim at cuhsd.org>
> To: minnieme4rl at aol.com
> Sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:16 am
> Subject: FW: Fwd(2): virus warning
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Bojorquez 
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:21 AM
> To: All Users
> Subject: FW: Fwd(2): virus warning
> 
> Just in case.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kris Estrada [mailto:Kris_Estrada at sjusd.org <mailto:Kris_Estrada at sjusd.org?>] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:59 AM
> To: Jim Bojorquez; Patricia Sepulveda; Patti Vongsa
> Subject: Fwd(2): virus warning
> 
> Good Morning Friends,
> 
> I haven't read the news yet, or listened to the radio to hear about this
> reported virus, but just in case:
> 
> Michael, do you have a disk I could borrow to run anti-virus on my
> school computer.....I know it is infected in the Microsoft suite.
> 
> Thanks and a hug to each of you,
> 
> Mary 
> 
> 
> Anyone-using Internet mail such as Yahoo, Hotmail, AOL and so on. 
> 
> This information arrived this morning, Direct from both Microsoft and
> Norton. 
> 
> Please send it to everybody you know who has access to the Internet. 
> 
> You may receive an apparently harmless e-mail with a Power Point 
> presentation ' Life is Beautiful '
> 
> If you receive it DO NOT OPEN THE FILE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE S, 
> and delete it immediately.
> 
> If you open this file, a message will appear on your screen saying: 
> 
> 'It is too late now, your life is no longer beautiful.' 
> 
> Subsequently you will LOSE EVERYTHING IN YOUR PC, and the person who
> sent it to you will gain access to your name, e-mail and password. 
> 
> This is a new virus which started to circulate on Saturday afternoon. 
> 
> AOL has already confirmed the severity, and the anti virus software's
> are not capable of destroying it.
> 
> The virus has been created by a hacker who calls himself 'life owner.' 
> 
> PLEASE SEND A COPY OF TH IS E-MAIL TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS, and ask them to
> PASS IT ON IMMEDIATELY!         
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail 
> <http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp00050000000003>!
> 
> 
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From lildobe at lildobe.net  Thu Nov 29 15:37:01 2007
From: lildobe at lildobe.net (Andrew "Dobie" Koch)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:37:01 -0500
Subject: FL: Fwd: Fwd(2): virus warning
In-Reply-To: <8CA00CB52889484-AC8-A98@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com>
References: <00AE44BC9CFA9D4BB256656ACD8EF79F01B37DBC@cuhsd-ex2003.cuhsd-int.prv>
	<8CA00CB52889484-AC8-A98@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <474F22ED.7070503@lildobe.net>

You should check on things like this before forwarding them....


http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/life.asp

Dobie


minnieme4rl at aol.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kristen Kim <kkim at cuhsd.org>
> To: minnieme4rl at aol.com
> Sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:16 am
> Subject: FW: Fwd(2): virus warning
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Bojorquez 
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:21 AM
> To: All Users
> Subject: FW: Fwd(2): virus warning
> 
> Just in case.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kris Estrada [mailto:Kris_Estrada at sjusd.org <mailto:Kris_Estrada at sjusd.org?>] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:59 AM
> To: Jim Bojorquez; Patricia Sepulveda; Patti Vongsa
> Subject: Fwd(2): virus warning
> 
> Good Morning Friends,
> 
> I haven't read the news yet, or listened to the radio to hear about this
> reported virus, but just in case:
> 
> Michael, do you have a disk I could borrow to run anti-virus on my
> school computer.....I know it is infected in the Microsoft suite.
> 
> Thanks and a hug to each of you,
> 
> Mary 
> 
> 
> Anyone-using Internet mail such as Yahoo, Hotmail, AOL and so on. 
> 
> This information arrived this morning, Direct from both Microsoft and
> Norton. 
> 
> Please send it to everybody you know who has access to the Internet. 
> 
> You may receive an apparently harmless e-mail with a Power Point 
> presentation ' Life is Beautiful '
> 
> If you receive it DO NOT OPEN THE FILE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE S, 
> and delete it immediately.
> 
> If you open this file, a message will appear on your screen saying: 
> 
> 'It is too late now, your life is no longer beautiful.' 
> 
> Subsequently you will LOSE EVERYTHING IN YOUR PC, and the person who
> sent it to you will gain access to your name, e-mail and password. 
> 
> This is a new virus which started to circulate on Saturday afternoon. 
> 
> AOL has already confirmed the severity, and the anti virus software's
> are not capable of destroying it.
> 
> The virus has been created by a hacker who calls himself 'life owner.' 
> 
> PLEASE SEND A COPY OF TH IS E-MAIL TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS, and ask them to
> PASS IT ON IMMEDIATELY!         
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From fursuit at jovino.com  Thu Nov 29 23:02:50 2007
From: fursuit at jovino.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?jovino_=A0?=)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:02:50 -0800
Subject: FL: Fwd: Fwd(2): virus warning
In-Reply-To: <c9a8951e0711291241x63e6a4a8kb494ae6988dd0e2d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00AE44BC9CFA9D4BB256656ACD8EF79F01B37DBC@cuhsd-ex2003.cuhsd-int.prv>
	<8CA00CB52889484-AC8-A98@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com>
	<c9a8951e0711291241x63e6a4a8kb494ae6988dd0e2d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <767ABFA2-A70F-4B65-9285-ADD9F544F25D@jovino.com>

This makes me so sentimental. (sniff) ;)


  /)_/)
(^.^=)
(")"_)o
jovino


On Nov 29, 2007, at 12:41 PM, B C wrote:

> This is Hoax from 2002 !!!!!

From camerapup at charter.net  Thu Nov 29 23:25:38 2007
From: camerapup at charter.net (Camerapup)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:25:38 -0800
Subject: FL: Fwd: Fwd(2): virus warning
In-Reply-To: <c9a8951e0711291241x63e6a4a8kb494ae6988dd0e2d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00AE44BC9CFA9D4BB256656ACD8EF79F01B37DBC@cuhsd-ex2003.cuhsd-int.prv><8CA00CB52889484-AC8-A98@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com>
	<c9a8951e0711291241x63e6a4a8kb494ae6988dd0e2d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C2CECD2A42254A508B5F643AC177E345@DualCorePC>

not everyone on this list is computer savy. we have to cater to all likes and dislikes and levels of knowledge. Someone was just trying to help and let others know to becareful. 

Camerapup
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: B C 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:41 PM
  Subject: Re: FL: Fwd: Fwd(2): virus warning


  This is Hoax from 2002 !!!!!

  PLEASE look into something before fowarding it! 

  You are only contributing to the chain mail / junk mail problem if you don't!

  that is what google is for    http://www.google.com   using the search term 
  "life is beautiful virus" turned up these results (it took 2 seconds to find out it is a hoax)

  http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2002-011511-0444-99
  http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/life.asp

  http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/lifevirus.html


   
  On Nov 29, 2007 1:18 PM, <minnieme4rl at aol.com> wrote:




    -----Original Message-----
    From: Kristen Kim < kkim at cuhsd.org>
    To: minnieme4rl at aol.com
    Sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:16 am
    Subject: FW: Fwd(2): virus warning




-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Bojorquez 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:21 AM
To: All Users
Subject: FW: Fwd(2): virus warning

Just in case.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kris Estrada [mailto:Kris_Estrada at sjusd.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:59 AM
To: Jim Bojorquez; Patricia Sepulveda; Patti Vongsa
Subject: Fwd(2): virus warning

Good Morning Friends,

I haven't read the news yet, or listened to the radio to hear about this
reported virus, but just in case:

Michael, do you have a disk I could borrow to run anti-virus on my
school computer.....I know it is infected in the Microsoft suite.

Thanks and a hug to each of you,

Mary 


Anyone-using Internet mail such as Yahoo, Hotmail, AOL and so on. 

This information arrived this morning, Direct from both Microsoft and
Norton. 

Please send it to everybody you know who has access to the Internet. 

You may receive an apparently harmless e-mail with a Power Point 
presentation ' Life is Beautiful '

If you receive it DO NOT OPEN THE FILE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE S, 
and delete it immediately.

If you open this file, a message will appear on your screen saying: 

'It is too late now, your life is no longer beautiful.' 

Subsequently you will LOSE EVERYTHING IN YOUR PC, and the person who
sent it to you will gain access to your name, e-mail and password. 

This is a new virus which started to circulate on Saturday afternoon. 

AOL has already confirmed the severity, and the anti virus software's
are not capable of destroying it.

The virus has been created by a hacker who calls himself 'life owner.' 

PLEASE SEND A COPY OF TH IS E-MAIL TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS, and ask them to
PASS IT ON IMMEDIATELY!         

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From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Thu Nov 29 23:39:05 2007
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (Cyan FOX)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:39:05 -0500
Subject: FL: Fwd: Fwd(2): virus warning
In-Reply-To: <C2CECD2A42254A508B5F643AC177E345@DualCorePC>
References: <00AE44BC9CFA9D4BB256656ACD8EF79F01B37DBC@cuhsd-ex2003.cuhsd-int.prv>
	<8CA00CB52889484-AC8-A98@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com>
	<c9a8951e0711291241x63e6a4a8kb494ae6988dd0e2d@mail.gmail.com>
	<C2CECD2A42254A508B5F643AC177E345@DualCorePC>
Message-ID: <b1c118750711292039p6d7326eas9833183ee583273@mail.gmail.com>

that's a completely valid and understandable justification but...
it's very simple to ask to verify something is legit before posting a
virus scare...

it would be like if i posted ``george bush was impeached!"  other
people would check the internet first to see if my information was
valid before celebrating/mourning... ( i ``cater to all likes and
dislikes and levels of knowledge'' )

<3foxfoxfox

I  don't mean this in any diminutive or condescending manner.. or regard :D

On Nov 29, 2007 11:25 PM, Camerapup <camerapup at charter.net> wrote:
>
>
> not everyone on this list is computer savy. we have to cater to all likes
> and dislikes and levels of knowledge. Someone was just trying to help and
> let others know to becareful.
>
> Camerapup
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: B C
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:41 PM
> Subject: Re: FL: Fwd: Fwd(2): virus warning
>
>
> This is Hoax from 2002 !!!!!
>
> PLEASE look into something before fowarding it!
>
> You are only contributing to the chain mail / junk mail problem if you
> don't!
>
> that is what google is for    http://www.google.com   using the search term
> "life is beautiful virus" turned up these results (it took 2 seconds to find
> out it is a hoax)
>
> http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2002-011511-0444-99
> http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/life.asp
>
> http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/lifevirus.html
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2007 1:18 PM, <minnieme4rl at aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kristen Kim < kkim at cuhsd.org>
> > To: minnieme4rl at aol.com
> > Sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:16 am
> > Subject: FW: Fwd(2): virus warning
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Bojorquez
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:21 AM
> > To: All Users
> > Subject: FW: Fwd(2): virus warning
> >
> > Just in case.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kris Estrada [mailto:Kris_Estrada at sjusd.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:59 AM
> > To: Jim Bojorquez; Patricia Sepulveda; Patti Vongsa
> > Subject: Fwd(2): virus warning
> >
> > Good Morning Friends,
> >
> > I haven't read the news yet, or listened to the radio to hear about this
> > reported virus, but just in case:
> >
> > Michael, do you have a disk I could borrow to run anti-virus on my
> > school computer.....I know it is infected in the Microsoft suite.
> >
> > Thanks and a hug to each of you,
> >
> > Mary
> >
> >
> > Anyone-using Internet mail such as Yahoo, Hotmail, AOL and so on.
> >
> > This information arrived this morning, Direct from both Microsoft and
> > Norton.
> >
> > Please send it to everybody you know who has access to the Internet.
> >
> > You may receive an apparently harmless e-mail with a Power Point
> > presentation ' Life is Beautiful '
> >
> > If you receive it DO NOT OPEN THE FILE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE S,
> > and delete it immediately.
> >
> > If you open this file, a message will appear on your screen saying:
> >
> > 'It is too late now, your life is no longer beautiful.'
> >
> > Subsequently you will LOSE EVERYTHING IN YOUR PC, and the person who
> > sent it to you will gain access to your name, e-mail and password.
> >
> > This is a new virus which started to circulate on Saturday afternoon.
> >
> > AOL has already confirmed the severity, and the anti virus software's
> > are not capable of destroying it.
> >
> > The virus has been created by a hacker who calls himself 'life owner.'
> >
> > PLEASE SEND A COPY OF TH IS E-MAIL TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS, and ask them to
> > PASS IT ON IMMEDIATELY!
> >
> >
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> >
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From fursuit at jovino.com  Fri Nov 30 00:55:56 2007
From: fursuit at jovino.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?jovino_=A0?=)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:55:56 -0800
Subject: FL: Fwd: Fwd(2): virus warning
In-Reply-To: <b1c118750711292039p6d7326eas9833183ee583273@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00AE44BC9CFA9D4BB256656ACD8EF79F01B37DBC@cuhsd-ex2003.cuhsd-int.prv>
	<8CA00CB52889484-AC8-A98@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com>
	<c9a8951e0711291241x63e6a4a8kb494ae6988dd0e2d@mail.gmail.com>
	<C2CECD2A42254A508B5F643AC177E345@DualCorePC>
	<b1c118750711292039p6d7326eas9833183ee583273@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E2ED89E9-FCBF-4D23-AC4C-64D93B1E5D52@jovino.com>

AWESOME!!!

:-P

  /)_/)
(^.^=)
(")"_)o
jovino



On Nov 29, 2007, at 8:39 PM, Cyan FOX wrote:

> george bush was impeached!

From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Fri Nov 30 01:06:31 2007
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (Cyan FOX)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:06:31 -0500
Subject: FL: Fwd: Fwd(2): virus warning
In-Reply-To: <E2ED89E9-FCBF-4D23-AC4C-64D93B1E5D52@jovino.com>
References: <00AE44BC9CFA9D4BB256656ACD8EF79F01B37DBC@cuhsd-ex2003.cuhsd-int.prv>
	<8CA00CB52889484-AC8-A98@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com>
	<c9a8951e0711291241x63e6a4a8kb494ae6988dd0e2d@mail.gmail.com>
	<C2CECD2A42254A508B5F643AC177E345@DualCorePC>
	<b1c118750711292039p6d7326eas9833183ee583273@mail.gmail.com>
	<E2ED89E9-FCBF-4D23-AC4C-64D93B1E5D52@jovino.com>
Message-ID: <b1c118750711292206h54edf006gd1b4b5cb5057e223@mail.gmail.com>

ewww now i got peach marmalade all over my fur x.x

On Nov 30, 2007 12:55 AM, jovino <fursuit at jovino.com> wrote:
> AWESOME!!!
>
> :-P
>
>   /)_/)
> (^.^=)
> (")"_)o
> jovino
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2007, at 8:39 PM, Cyan FOX wrote:
>
> > george bush was impeached!
>
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From zoo at foxb.co.uk  Fri Nov 30 06:36:51 2007
From: zoo at foxb.co.uk (Foxberance)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:36:51 -0000
Subject: FL: Fwd: Fwd(2): virus warning
References: <00AE44BC9CFA9D4BB256656ACD8EF79F01B37DBC@cuhsd-ex2003.cuhsd-int.prv><8CA00CB52889484-AC8-A98@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com><c9a8951e0711291241x63e6a4a8kb494ae6988dd0e2d@mail.gmail.com>
	<C2CECD2A42254A508B5F643AC177E345@DualCorePC>
Message-ID: <E6B6E66F148F4EB4AAA1DBB0F64BF30C@foxtron>

Agreed. Better safe than sorry and not everyone is at same level of internet savvy, and hey it only uses 4KB of bandwidth but everyone moaning about it used nearly 100kb ;)
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Camerapup 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 4:25 AM
  Subject: Re: FL: Fwd: Fwd(2): virus warning


  not everyone on this list is computer savy. we have to cater to all likes and dislikes and levels of knowledge. Someone was just trying to help and let others know to becareful. 

  Camerapup
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: B C 
    To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
    Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:41 PM
    Subject: Re: FL: Fwd: Fwd(2): virus warning


    This is Hoax from 2002 !!!!!

    PLEASE look into something before fowarding it! 

    You are only contributing to the chain mail / junk mail problem if you don't!

    that is what google is for    http://www.google.com   using the search term 
    "life is beautiful virus" turned up these results (it took 2 seconds to find out it is a hoax)

    http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2002-011511-0444-99
    http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/life.asp

    http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/lifevirus.html


     
    On Nov 29, 2007 1:18 PM, <minnieme4rl at aol.com> wrote:




      -----Original Message-----
      From: Kristen Kim < kkim at cuhsd.org>
      To: minnieme4rl at aol.com
      Sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:16 am
      Subject: FW: Fwd(2): virus warning




-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Bojorquez 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:21 AM
To: All Users
Subject: FW: Fwd(2): virus warning

Just in case.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kris Estrada [mailto:Kris_Estrada at sjusd.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:59 AM
To: Jim Bojorquez; Patricia Sepulveda; Patti Vongsa
Subject: Fwd(2): virus warning

Good Morning Friends,

I haven't read the news yet, or listened to the radio to hear about this
reported virus, but just in case:

Michael, do you have a disk I could borrow to run anti-virus on my
school computer.....I know it is infected in the Microsoft suite.

Thanks and a hug to each of you,

Mary 


Anyone-using Internet mail such as Yahoo, Hotmail, AOL and so on. 

This information arrived this morning, Direct from both Microsoft and
Norton. 

Please send it to everybody you know who has access to the Internet. 

You may receive an apparently harmless e-mail with a Power Point 
presentation ' Life is Beautiful '

If you receive it DO NOT OPEN THE FILE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE S, 
and delete it immediately.

If you open this file, a message will appear on your screen saying: 

'It is too late now, your life is no longer beautiful.' 

Subsequently you will LOSE EVERYTHING IN YOUR PC, and the person who
sent it to you will gain access to your name, e-mail and password. 

This is a new virus which started to circulate on Saturday afternoon. 

AOL has already confirmed the severity, and the anti virus software's
are not capable of destroying it.

The virus has been created by a hacker who calls himself 'life owner.' 

PLEASE SEND A COPY OF TH IS E-MAIL TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS, and ask them to
PASS IT ON IMMEDIATELY!         

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From tursi at harmlesslion.com  Fri Nov 30 11:35:16 2007
From: tursi at harmlesslion.com (tursi)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:35:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Fwd: Fwd(2): virus warning
In-Reply-To: <E6B6E66F148F4EB4AAA1DBB0F64BF30C@foxtron>
References: <00AE44BC9CFA9D4BB256656ACD8EF79F01B37DBC@cuhsd-ex2003.cuhsd-int.prv><8CA00CB52889484-AC8-A98@webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com><c9a8951e0711291241x63e6a4a8kb494ae6988dd0e2d@mail.gmail.com>
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> Agreed. Better safe than sorry and not everyone is at same level of 
> internet savvy, and hey it only uses 4KB of bandwidth but everyone 
> moaning about it used nearly 100kb ;)

There's no intention to be mean about it on most people's side, but the 
forwarding of these fake email virus warnings causes unnecessary concern, 
miseducation and, in the days before spam was a big deal, were considered 
major drains on limited network traffic.

The fact is that education is always better than "better safe than sorry". 
It's more than okay to make a mistake, the point is to learn from it.

There are a few key phrases that pretty much all the social viruses (so 
called because they spread only by convincing people to pass them on) 
contain.

The biggest giveaway tends to be the encouragement to send copies to 
everyone you know! Seeing that is usually a good sign that you should 
investigate further before taking action.

Generic greetings like the "good morning friends" in this one is a good 
indicator.

Almost all of them include a phrase like "this information came directly 
from [insert big official sounding names here]". The FCC is often cited 
which is a dead giveaway since the FCC doesn't issue virus warnings. This 
one didn't have that at least. If you aren't certain, it's pretty easy to 
visit the sites of the companies listed (Microsoft, AOL, etc) and check 
for any warnings.

This sort of thing has been around as long as electronic communications. 
If you're interested in history of the email variants, do a web search on 
the classic "GoodTimes Virus".

Unfortunately the internet is a dangerous place today. These were once 
just mildly annoying experiments in human behaviour, and mere jokes. Today 
the lessons learned are actively used by criminals to coerce people to 
install and spread malware. Even if you don't have anything on your 
computer that seems valuable to you, every machine on the net is useful to 
them - if they can get into it. I would urge anyone using the internet to 
educate themselves - to not do so is a disservice to yourself and others.



From rwelles at gmail.com  Fri Nov 30 14:11:18 2007
From: rwelles at gmail.com (Knux The Fox)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:11:18 -0600
Subject: FL: Fwd: Fwd(2): virus warning
Message-ID: <c7e4f15f0711301111v3fb7463cj35a6c7820c6109e2@mail.gmail.com>

There are a few good rules of thumb when dealing with these issues.  If it
sounds suspect, then it is.  If the email address the email is coming from
sounds spammy, and/or is not a member of your friends or family, it's
probably fake.  Also, most email hosts, including Hotmail, Yahoo, Gmail,
MSN, and many others offer free email virus scanning.  If you're worried
about viruses, get a good antivirus.  Among the best free antiviruses are
AVG and Antivir.  There are also several good pay antiviruses, like McAfee,
Norton, and recently voted the best, Kaspersky.  Just be careful with those,
since they tend to want to block off things that aren't viruses, like games
that connect to the internet, chat clients, and sometimes even Microsoft
apps.  I've used them all.  Currently, I use the free AVG Personal Antivirus
aka AVG Free Edition.  Like many have said.  A little education saves face,
and saves grief.
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From santafox at comcast.net  Fri Nov 30 14:30:58 2007
From: santafox at comcast.net (Santa Fox)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:30:58 +0000
Subject: FL: FWA Furry Variety Show: We Want You!
Message-ID: <113020071930.3510.475064F20006CD8600000DB622007601809801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>

Believe it or not, FWA is less than three months away now, and that time is going to fly by with all of the winter holidays coming up. So, that means it's time to start thinking up ideas for the third annual Furry Weekend Atlanta Furry Variety Show!

To make it easier for interested performers to find other performers for acts, or to just bounce ideas around without making them completely public, I've set up a mailing list for FVS planning:

  http://groups.google.com/group/fwa-fvs

If you are coming to FWA and want to be in the show, just go to that page and request membership, and I'll approve you as quickly as I can. Details on the show and guidelines for variety show acts can be found here:

  http://www.furryweekend.com/varietyshow

I would like to get notice of any planned acts as early as possible, so if you're planning something, please join the mailing list and post your ideas there. If you really want to keep your idea top-secret, just send your information directly to me as soon as you have it ready.

Thanks and Cheers,
Santa Fox
FWA Furry Variety Show & Fursuiting and Pawpetry Track Director

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From minnieme4rl at aol.com  Fri Nov 30 17:50:51 2007
From: minnieme4rl at aol.com (minnieme4rl at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:50:51 -0500
Subject: FL: Apology for Virus Warning Post
Message-ID: <8CA01BA976AAAB2-149C-27E9@MBLK-M35.sysops.aol.com>

I would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize to everyone on these lists for sending out the virus warning.? I am a high school teacher, not in the high tech industry.? This e-mail was forwarded to everyone in my district.? Usually stuff like that gets in the spam filter, but this one didn't, so I thought it was quite urgent.? I don't keep up with virus warnings since I use Macs.? But I do have a PC at school.

I sincerely apologize if I offended or irritated anyone.? I will permanently butt out of any computer affairs and leave it to the experts.? I was just trying to help, but I ended up pissing off more people, so again, I'm very, very sorry and I promise that it will never happen again.? I have learned my lesson.

Minnie

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From baar_bear at cox.net  Fri Nov 30 22:00:17 2007
From: baar_bear at cox.net (Michael Setzer)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:00:17 -0700
Subject: FL: New Update To My Site
Message-ID: <4750CE41.20503@cox.net>

      Greetings all, Ba'ar here to let you know I've updated my 
fursuiting site.  There are new pictures in the 'Drawings' section 
(http://baarsden.itgo.com/drawing.html) and in the 'Where Ba'ar has Been 
Seen'  Section (http://baarsden.itgo.com/seen.html).  Check them out!



From esuterure2006 at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  1 00:22:40 2007
From: esuterure2006 at yahoo.com (MECHELLE FREDERICK)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:22:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: COOL
In-Reply-To: <8CA01BA976AAAB2-149C-27E9@MBLK-M35.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <902459.88030.qm@web55303.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

  i accept your apology,your response didn't bother me,at least some people still care in this world,but thank you so very much.
  yours truely
  me'chelle frederick




       
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From santafox at comcast.net  Fri Dec  7 16:39:39 2007
From: santafox at comcast.net (Santa Fox)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:39:39 +0000
Subject: FL: Fursuiting Wiki Updates
Message-ID: <120720072139.9729.4759BD9B0003E8E30000260122092299279801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>

I just spent some quality time updating the Performance section of the fursuiting Wiki:

  http://fursuit.org/wiki/doku.php?id=fursuit:performance

After sorting through it all, I found that there's still a lot of holes and a lot of things about performance that could be said but haven't been said.  I've contributed to some areas, but I can't do it all by myself.

Remember that if you are on this mailing list, you can log into the Wiki and make updates.  If you have useful information to share about fursuits and fursuiting (building, performance, or other related topics) and it's not already in the Wiki, please consider contributing so that everyone can benefit.  If you've forgotten how to access the Wiki for editing, just go to the 'FURSUIT member private web page' link on the main www.fursuit.org page, and follow the link that reads "Chick Here to Log into the Wiki to edit it".  You'll need your fursuit mailing list email address and password to login.

If you want to contribute, but just aren't the Wiki type, please don't let that stop you.  Send me your contributions off-list, and I'll happily Wikify them for you and put them into the right sections.  This Wiki is a already good resource, but with a little proper care and feeding, it can become a really great resource for everyone :-)

Thanks and Cheers,
Santa Fox

--
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From fuzzyroo at gmail.com  Fri Dec  7 18:18:41 2007
From: fuzzyroo at gmail.com (Lucus Rocket)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 17:18:41 -0600
Subject: FL: Fursuiting Wiki Updates
In-Reply-To: <120720072139.9729.4759BD9B0003E8E30000260122092299279801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>
References: <120720072139.9729.4759BD9B0003E8E30000260122092299279801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <186b03790712071518x7a63f507vbbb6220024e0ab11@mail.gmail.com>

i know it's horrible but a joke came to mind with the whole "psyco's who try
and light fursuiters on fire" bit

whe that occurs, ask your self wwgfd (what would gorman freeman do?)

sorry...i'm a gamer, and that might only be funny to me :\

but had to say it

On Dec 7, 2007 3:39 PM, Santa Fox <santafox at comcast.net> wrote:

> I just spent some quality time updating the Performance section of the
> fursuiting Wiki:
>
>  http://fursuit.org/wiki/doku.php?id=fursuit:performance
>
> After sorting through it all, I found that there's still a lot of holes
> and a lot of things about performance that could be said but haven't been
> said.  I've contributed to some areas, but I can't do it all by myself.
>
> Remember that if you are on this mailing list, you can log into the Wiki
> and make updates.  If you have useful information to share about fursuits
> and fursuiting (building, performance, or other related topics) and it's not
> already in the Wiki, please consider contributing so that everyone can
> benefit.  If you've forgotten how to access the Wiki for editing, just go to
> the 'FURSUIT member private web page' link on the main www.fursuit.orgpage, and follow the link that reads "Chick Here to Log into the Wiki to
> edit it".  You'll need your fursuit mailing list email address and password
> to login.
>
> If you want to contribute, but just aren't the Wiki type, please don't let
> that stop you.  Send me your contributions off-list, and I'll happily Wikify
> them for you and put them into the right sections.  This Wiki is a already
> good resource, but with a little proper care and feeding, it can become a
> really great resource for everyone :-)
>
> Thanks and Cheers,
> Santa Fox
>
> --
> Santa Fox's Den - http://www.jinglefox.com/
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From jpa2blue at yahoo.com  Fri Dec  7 21:35:20 2007
From: jpa2blue at yahoo.com (John Arroyo)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 18:35:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Fursuiting Wiki Updates
Message-ID: <721163.3147.qm@web35310.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sat Jun 30 16:04:08 2007
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 20:04:08 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.10.1197081330.14244.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>


----- Original Message ----
From: Lucus Rocket <fuzzyroo at gmail.com>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 3:18:41 PM
Subject: Re: FL: Fursuiting Wiki Updates


i know it's horrible but a joke came to mind with the whole "psyco's who try and light fursuiters on fire" bit
 
whe that occurs, ask your self wwgfd (what would gorman freeman do?)
 
sorry...i'm a gamer, and that might only be funny to me :\
 
but had to say it


On Dec 7, 2007 3:39 PM, Santa Fox <santafox at comcast.net> wrote:

I just spent some quality time updating the Performance section of the fursuiting Wiki:

  http://fursuit.org/wiki/doku.php?id=fursuit:performance

After sorting through it all, I found that there's still a lot of holes and a lot of things about performance that could be said but haven't been said.  I've contributed to some areas, but I can't do it all by myself. 

Remember that if you are on this mailing list, you can log into the Wiki and make updates.  If you have useful information to share about fursuits and fursuiting (building, performance, or other related topics) and it's not already in the Wiki, please consider contributing so that everyone can benefit.  If you've forgotten how to access the Wiki for editing, just go to the 'FURSUIT member private web page' link on the main www.fursuit.org page, and follow the link that reads "Chick Here to Log into the Wiki to edit it".  You'll need your fursuit mailing list email address and password to login. 

If you want to contribute, but just aren't the Wiki type, please don't let that stop you.  Send me your contributions off-list, and I'll happily Wikify them for you and put them into the right sections.  This Wiki is a already good resource, but with a little proper care and feeding, it can become a really great resource for everyone :-) 

Thanks and Cheers,
Santa Fox

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 is pathetic.<BR><BR>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">----- Original Message ----<BR>From: Lucus Rocket &lt;fuzzyroo at gmail.com&gt;<BR>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org<BR>Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 3:18:41 PM<BR>Subject: Re: FL: Fursuiting Wiki Updates<BR><BR>
<DIV>i know it's horrible but a joke came to mind with the whole "psyco's who try and light fursuiters on fire" bit</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>whe that occurs, ask your self wwgfd (what would gorman freeman do?)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>sorry...i'm a gamer, and that might only be funny to me :\</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>but had to say it<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Dec 7, 2007 3:39 PM, Santa Fox &lt;<A href="mailto:santafox at comcast.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:santafox at comcast.net">santafox at comcast.net</A>&gt; wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">I just spent some quality time updating the Performance section of the fursuiting Wiki:<BR><BR>&nbsp;<A href="http://fursuit.org/wiki/doku.php?id=fursuit:performance" target=_blank rel=nofollow> http://fursuit.org/wiki/doku.php?id=fursuit:performance</A><BR><BR>After sorting through it all, I found that there's still a lot of holes and a lot of things about performance that could be said but haven't been said. &nbsp;I've contributed to some areas, but I can't do it all by myself. <BR><BR>Remember that if you are on this mailing list, you can log into the Wiki and make updates. &nbsp;If you have useful information to share about fursuits and fursuiting (building, performance, or other related topics) and it's not already in the Wiki, please consider contributing so that everyone can benefit. &nbsp;If you've forgotten how to access the Wiki for
 editing, just go to the 'FURSUIT member private web page' link on the main <A href="http://www.fursuit.org/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.fursuit.org</A> page, and follow the link that reads "Chick Here to Log into the Wiki to edit it". &nbsp;You'll need your fursuit mailing list email address and password to login. <BR><BR>If you want to contribute, but just aren't the Wiki type, please don't let that stop you. &nbsp;Send me your contributions off-list, and I'll happily Wikify them for you and put them into the right sections. &nbsp;This Wiki is a already good resource, but with a little proper care and feeding, it can become a really great resource for everyone :-) <BR><BR>Thanks and Cheers,<BR>Santa Fox<BR><FONT color=#888888><BR>--<BR>Santa Fox's Den - <A href="http://www.jinglefox.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.jinglefox.com/</A><BR>_______________________________________________
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From fuzzyroo at gmail.com  Fri Dec  7 22:19:59 2007
From: fuzzyroo at gmail.com (Lucus Rocket)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 21:19:59 -0600
Subject: FL: Fursuiting Wiki Updates
In-Reply-To: <721163.3147.qm@web35310.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <721163.3147.qm@web35310.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <186b03790712071919i41e67250vdd733b2e05634eb0@mail.gmail.com>

well to be honest the wwgfd (what would gorman freeman do) comes from a
glorious game called half life.  it's an fps with a crazy physicis engine
and the first weapon you ever get...is a crowbar.   so basicly the question
is, "what would gorman freeman hit in the face with a crowbar?" :P so i'm
putting down the ppl who try and set fursuiters on fire (btw i've been one
of thsoe fursuiters.  and thankgod i knew the person..ex friend of mine...
acuse well he tried it, and well if you ever wanted to see a large kangaroo
nail some one hard in the crotch...well there you had it.  he had to go to
the hospital and get stitches.   i wasn't even kind enough to give him a
ride there, i was totaly fet up and now there's a restraining order ^.^)

On Dec 7, 2007 8:35 PM, John Arroyo <jpa2blue at yahoo.com> wrote:

>  From Fox Tails: Wow, thats alot of useful info to go by and take in at
> one time on the Fursuit performance section...and I haven't even got my
> fursuit yet! Eh...I can still practice. I actually found myself doing some
> of the head gestures while sitting and reading the directions  . But on a
> more serious note, I truly find those who put down fursuiters to be the real
> wierdos amongst society. They fear that what is not of the so called
> norm...and many times they are lying to themselves. They say that those who
> often hate things with passion, hate things from envy. They are just jealous
> because they are dull. To light costumers/ furries on fire is pathetic.
>
>   ----- Original Message ----
> From: Lucus Rocket <fuzzyroo at gmail.com>
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 3:18:41 PM
> Subject: Re: FL: Fursuiting Wiki Updates
>
> i know it's horrible but a joke came to mind with the whole "psyco's who
> try and light fursuiters on fire" bit
>
> whe that occurs, ask your self wwgfd (what would gorman freeman do?)
>
> sorry...i'm a gamer, and that might only be funny to me :\
>
> but had to say it
>
> On Dec 7, 2007 3:39 PM, Santa Fox <santafox at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > I just spent some quality time updating the Performance section of the
> > fursuiting Wiki:
> >
> >   http://fursuit.org/wiki/doku.php?id=fursuit:performance
> >
> > After sorting through it all, I found that there's still a lot of holes
> > and a lot of things about performance that could be said but haven't been
> > said.  I've contributed to some areas, but I can't do it all by myself.
> >
> > Remember that if you are on this mailing list, you can log into the Wiki
> > and make updates.  If you have useful information to share about fursuits
> > and fursuiting (building, performance, or other related topics) and it's not
> > already in the Wiki, please consider contributing so that everyone can
> > benefit.  If you've forgotten how to access the Wiki for editing, just go to
> > the 'FURSUIT member private web page' link on the main www.fursuit.orgpage, and follow the link that reads "Chick Here to Log into the Wiki to
> > edit it".  You'll need your fursuit mailing list email address and password
> > to login.
> >
> > If you want to contribute, but just aren't the Wiki type, please don't
> > let that stop you.  Send me your contributions off-list, and I'll happily
> > Wikify them for you and put them into the right sections.  This Wiki is a
> > already good resource, but with a little proper care and feeding, it can
> > become a really great resource for everyone :-)
> >
> > Thanks and Cheers,
> > Santa Fox
> >
> > --
> > Santa Fox's Den - http://www.jinglefox.com/
> > _______________________________________________
> > _______________________________________________
> > Fursuit Mail list.
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From furrycouple at hotmail.com  Sat Dec  8 01:07:13 2007
From: furrycouple at hotmail.com (Johara Saluki)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 04:07:13 -0200
Subject: FL: Fursuiting Wiki Updates
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Set furries on fire??? Is this for real??? Jeez, what's next??? The upside is, I'll probably be dead by the time hell takes over the earth. The downside; my children will be in the middle of it.  
Crowbars for everyone.........


Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 21:19:59 -0600From: fuzzyroo at gmail.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: Fursuiting Wiki Updateswell to be honest the wwgfd (what would gorman freeman do) comes from a glorious game called half life.  it's an fps with a crazy physicis engine and the first weapon you ever get...is a crowbar.   so basicly the question is, "what would gorman freeman hit in the face with a crowbar?" :P so i'm putting down the ppl who try and set fursuiters on fire (btw i've been one of thsoe fursuiters.  and thankgod i knew the person..ex friend of mine... acuse well he tried it, and well if you ever wanted to see a large kangaroo nail some one hard in the crotch...well there you had it.  he had to go to the hospital and get stitches.   i wasn't even kind enough to give him a ride there, i was totaly fet up and now there's a restraining order ^.^) 
On Dec 7, 2007 8:35 PM, John Arroyo <jpa2blue at yahoo.com> wrote:




From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sat Jun 30 16:04:08 2007
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 20:04:08 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.11.1197094042.14244.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>

time on the Fursuit performance section...and I haven't even got my fursuit=
 yet! Eh...I can still practice. I actually found myself doing some of the =
head gestures while sitting and reading the directions   . But on a more se=
rious note, I truly find those who put down fursuiters to be the real wierd=
os amongst society. They fear that what is not of the so called norm...and =
many times they are lying to themselves. They say that those who often hate=
 things with passion, hate things from envy. They are just jealous because =
they are dull. To light costumers/ furries on fire is pathetic.=20



----- Original Message ----From: Lucus Rocket <fuzzyroo at gmail.com>To: fursu=
it-list at lists.fursuit.orgSent: Friday, December 7, 2007 3:18:41 PMSubject: =
Re: FL: Fursuiting Wiki Updates
i know it's horrible but a joke came to mind with the whole "psyco's who tr=
y and light fursuiters on fire" bit
=20
whe that occurs, ask your self wwgfd (what would gorman freeman do?)
=20
sorry...i'm a gamer, and that might only be funny to me :\
=20
but had to say it
On Dec 7, 2007 3:39 PM, Santa Fox <santafox at comcast.net> wrote:
I just spent some quality time updating the Performance section of the furs=
uiting Wiki:  http://fursuit.org/wiki/doku.php?id=3Dfursuit:performanceAfte=
r sorting through it all, I found that there's still a lot of holes and a l=
ot of things about performance that could be said but haven't been said.  I=
've contributed to some areas, but I can't do it all by myself. Remember th=
at if you are on this mailing list, you can log into the Wiki and make upda=
tes.  If you have useful information to share about fursuits and fursuiting=
 (building, performance, or other related topics) and it's not already in t=
he Wiki, please consider contributing so that everyone can benefit.  If you=
've forgotten how to access the Wiki for editing, just go to the 'FURSUIT m=
ember private web page' link on the main www.fursuit.org page, and follow t=
he link that reads "Chick Here to Log into the Wiki to edit it".  You'll ne=
ed your fursuit mailing list email address and password to login. If you wa=
nt to contribute, but just aren't the Wiki type, please don't let that stop=
 you.  Send me your contributions off-list, and I'll happily Wikify them fo=
r you and put them into the right sections.  This Wiki is a already good re=
source, but with a little proper care and feeding, it can become a really g=
reat resource for everyone :-) Thanks and Cheers,Santa Fox--Santa Fox's Den=
 - http://www.jinglefox.com/_______________________________________________=
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our subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-=
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Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 21:19:59 -0600<BR>From: fuzzyroo at gmail.com<BR>To: fur=
suit-list at lists.fursuit.org<BR>Subject: Re: FL: Fursuiting Wiki Updates<BR>=
<BR>well to be honest the wwgfd (what would gorman freeman do) comes from a=
 glorious game called half life.&nbsp; it's an fps with a crazy physicis en=
gine and the first weapon you ever get...is a crowbar.&nbsp;&nbsp; so basic=
ly the question is, "what would gorman freeman hit in the face with a crowb=
ar?" :P so i'm putting down the ppl who try and set fursuiters on fire (btw=
 i've been one of thsoe fursuiters.&nbsp; and thankgod i knew the person..e=
x friend of mine... acuse well he tried it, and well if you ever wanted to =
see a large kangaroo nail some one hard in the crotch...well there you had =
it.&nbsp; he had to go to the hospital and get stitches.&nbsp;&nbsp; i wasn=
't even kind enough to give him a ride there, i was totaly fet up and now t=
here's a restraining order ^.^) <BR><BR>
<DIV class=3DEC_gmail_quote>On Dec 7, 2007 8:35 PM, John Arroyo &lt;<A href=
=3D"mailto:jpa2blue at yahoo.com">jpa2blue at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:<BR>
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s, serif">From Fox Tails: Wow, thats alot of useful info to go by and take =
in at one time on the Fursuit performance section...and I haven't even got =
my fursuit yet! Eh...I can still practice. I actually found myself doing so=
me of the head gestures while sitting and reading the directions&nbsp; <IMG=
> . But on a more serious note, I truly find those who put down fursuiters =
to be the real wierdos amongst society. They fear that what is not of the s=
o called norm...and many times they are lying to themselves. They say that =
those who often hate things with passion, hate things from envy. They are j=
ust jealous because they are dull. To light costumers/ furries on fire is p=
athetic. <BR><BR>
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t;<A href=3D"mailto:fuzzyroo at gmail.com">fuzzyroo at gmail.com</A>&gt;<BR>To: <=
A href=3D"mailto:fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org">fursuit-list at lists.fursuit=
.org</A><BR>Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 3:18:41 PM<BR>Subject: Re: FL: F=
ursuiting Wiki Updates<BR><BR>
<DIV>i know it's horrible but a joke came to mind with the whole "psyco's w=
ho try and light fursuiters on fire" bit</DIV>
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<DIV>whe that occurs, ask your self wwgfd (what would gorman freeman do?)</=
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<DIV>sorry...i'm a gamer, and that might only be funny to me :\</DIV>
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ki/doku.php?id=3Dfursuit:performance" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow> http:=
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ng through it all, I found that there's still a lot of holes and a lot of t=
hings about performance that could be said but haven't been said. &nbsp;I'v=
e contributed to some areas, but I can't do it all by myself. <BR><BR>Remem=
ber that if you are on this mailing list, you can log into the Wiki and mak=
e updates. &nbsp;If you have useful information to share about fursuits and=
 fursuiting (building, performance, or other related topics) and it's not a=
lready in the Wiki, please consider contributing so that everyone can benef=
it. &nbsp;If you've forgotten how to access the Wiki for editing, just go t=
o the 'FURSUIT member private web page' link on the main <A href=3D"http://=
www.fursuit.org/" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>www.fursuit.org</A> page, =
and follow the link that reads "Chick Here to Log into the Wiki to edit it"=
. &nbsp;You'll need your fursuit mailing list email address and password to=
 login. <BR><BR>If you want to contribute, but just aren't the Wiki type, p=
lease don't let that stop you. &nbsp;Send me your contributions off-list, a=
nd I'll happily Wikify them for you and put them into the right sections. &=
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d feeding, it can become a really great resource for everyone :-) <BR><BR>T=
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sat Dec  8 01:35:59 2007
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 22:35:59 -0800
Subject: FL: Fursuiting Wiki Updates
In-Reply-To: <120720072139.9729.4759BD9B0003E8E30000260122092299279801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>
References: <120720072139.9729.4759BD9B0003E8E30000260122092299279801000E9B020E9C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0712072235u1de328dft99565f604c59d1ce@mail.gmail.com>

I have found that horses and asses react alright for the most part. All you
have to do is give them time to get use to the idea that your not a threat.
Equines are quite qureas and will not take to long to want to see what the
fursuit is. All you need is space and time. Like all animals if you go right
up to them they will think of you as a treat and will try to run away or if
they cant do that they will attack

On Dec 7, 2007 1:39 PM, Santa Fox <santafox at comcast.net> wrote:

> I just spent some quality time updating the Performance section of the
> fursuiting Wiki:
>
>  http://fursuit.org/wiki/doku.php?id=fursuit:performance
>
> After sorting through it all, I found that there's still a lot of holes
> and a lot of things about performance that could be said but haven't been
> said.  I've contributed to some areas, but I can't do it all by myself.
>
> Remember that if you are on this mailing list, you can log into the Wiki
> and make updates.  If you have useful information to share about fursuits
> and fursuiting (building, performance, or other related topics) and it's not
> already in the Wiki, please consider contributing so that everyone can
> benefit.  If you've forgotten how to access the Wiki for editing, just go to
> the 'FURSUIT member private web page' link on the main www.fursuit.orgpage, and follow the link that reads "Chick Here to Log into the Wiki to
> edit it".  You'll need your fursuit mailing list email address and password
> to login.
>
> If you want to contribute, but just aren't the Wiki type, please don't let
> that stop you.  Send me your contributions off-list, and I'll happily Wikify
> them for you and put them into the right sections.  This Wiki is a already
> good resource, but with a little proper care and feeding, it can become a
> really great resource for everyone :-)
>
> Thanks and Cheers,
> Santa Fox
>
> --
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From francisco-sender-6f5fe9 at vulpes.net  Sat Dec 22 18:53:26 2007
From: francisco-sender-6f5fe9 at vulpes.net (Francisco Azinsan)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:53:26 -0600
Subject: FL: FC2008 December Newsletter
Message-ID: <20071222235326.GA55203@critter.net>


Countdown to the big event: We are just weeks away from Further Confusion
2008, as such, each newsletter gets more important. This will be one of the
last news letters to go out before the big event.

In this month's issue
1.  Come and work for FC!
2.  Pre-Registration closes in just a few days!
3.  Dealer Room Information
4.  Furry Night Live 2008 approaches quickly!
5.  Furly Edition
6.  Fursuit Badging at FC2008
7.  Schedule of Important Times for FC2008
8.  Final Newsletter
9.  Next Public Meeting


1.  Come and work for FC!

Want to meet more people at FC this year? Want to save some money?

Yes. You can do both by joining convention staff this year. We still have a
number of open positions available. Please visit the FC page at
<http://www.furtherconfusion.org/fc2008/about/hiring>

If interested, please contact hr at furtherconfusion.org for consideration. If
you have additional talents to offer which are not listed there, contact us
anyway! We just might put your talents to good use!


2.  Pre-Registration closes in just a few days!

Pre-registration closes on December 30th at 11:59pm, so don't delay if you
haven't registered yet. Mail-in forms should be postmarked by December 30th as
well, to give us time to get things entered. All updates and changes need to
be received no later than January 5th, 2008.

Single-day memberships can be purchased at the convention - they are not
available through pre-registration.

Single day prices are:
   Thursday only $20
   Friday only $25
   Saturday only $30
   Sunday only $25
   Monday only $20


3.  Dealer Room Information

- Furry Market Place sales are now fully closed. All spaces that will be sold
have been sold. There are no further Furry Market Place spaces to be had.

- Applications for the Dealer Room/Furry Market Place WAITING LIST will be
accepted through December 25th, 2007. If you want on the waiting list for a
last minute chance at getting into the room, go to the Dealer page on the
website, download the Waiting List form, print it, fill it out, and send it to
us. Get it postmarked no later than Christmas and we will put the form on file
for a chance if there are any cancellations. Please include a e-mail address
you check OFTEN as that is the only way we will contact you if a space becomes
available for you.

- We are mailing out Dealer Room and Furry Market Place confirmation packets
via standard postal mail (NOT E-mail) on Friday December 21st, 2007. We will
also post a copy of the items that are being sent out in that mailing, except
for the 1 sheet containing the specific confirmations, to the website sometime
after Christmas. So if your POSTAL MAILING address has changed since you
signed up for your table/space, be sure to check back to the Dealer page on
the website for the information from the mailing.


4.  Furry Night Live 2008 approaches quickly!

FC's Sunday evening stage show features a variety of furry acts performed
live, plus short video segments, with cash prizes decided on audience ballot.
We will be shooting for a rough lineup by mid-January, and space is limited.
Please reserve a slot by sending email to fnl at furtherconfusion.org with:

- Title of your act
- Main Contact's name/email
- Approximate running time
- Act is for competition (yes/no)
- Any special requirements beyond plain CD/DVD playback: live audio,
  instruments, or other custom audio sources.

Be sure to contact us soon as the show may fill up. Don't wait for FC itself!

For further announcements, plus full participation forms and at-con FNL
schedule to be posted soon, sign up for FNL08 discussion mailing list at
<http://www.furtherconfusion.org/fc2008/signup/fnl>

We are also seeking intrepid souls who are organized, punctual and silent to
fill our Stage Ninja Dojo. Please contact us at fnl at furtherconfusion.org -
First comers to receive Ninja Kitty Hats courtesy of BunnyWarez.com at the
show!


5.  Furly Edition

Party Announcements, Other items of interest that should go in the first
edition? The deadline to get submissions in for inclusion within Furly Edition
Zero is midnight on the evening of January 16th. Due to the time required for
preparation and printing no submissions can be accepted after that time. If
you have specific announcements to put within Furly Zero for the beginning of
the con, send them in to marketing at furtherconfusion.org. If you have
announcements for later printings of Furly Edition, we will have boxes put out
at the con at con-ops and the info desk.


6.  Fursuit Badging at FC2008

If you have a fursuit, are pre-registered, and need a fursuit badge, here's
what to do. Before January 1, 2008, send a picture of your fursuit to
fursuit-badges at furtherconfusion.org and include the following information in
the email:

- Your real name
- The fursuit name
- Your registration confirmation number

The file can be any standard picture format (JPEG, PNG, TIFF, etc.) at 300 dpi
with a usable area of 450 by 600 pixels.

The first fursuit badge is free (though a donation to the convention would be
appreciated), while subsequent badges are $5 each.

Photographs for fursuit badges will also be taken at the convention. Please
see the times that will be posted at the Registration Desk for the hours this
will be offered.


7.  Schedule of Important Times for FC2008

These times are, of course, subject to change, especially on the Thursday
times where we will be in mid-setup.

For a listing of all these times, please see our Hours of Operation page at
<http://www.furtherconfusion.org/fc2008/events/hours>


8.  Final Newsletter

We'll be sending out on final newsletter in mid January but it will
necessarily be short. Happy Holidays to everyone from our family to yours.


9.  Next Public Meeting

Our next staff meeting will be January 5th starting at noon in the San
Jose Doubletree. Come be part of something great and volunteer. Look at
any LCD screen for "Further Confusion..." to see what meeting room we are
in.

-- 
Further Confusion
info at furtherconfusion.org
http://www.furtherconfusion.org/

From marcwolf at marcwolf.org  Mon Dec 24 19:27:16 2007
From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (David Boccabella)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 10:27:16 +1000
Subject: FL: Idea's for projects
In-Reply-To: <20071222235326.GA55203@critter.net>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOICEJIFIAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>


Hi Folks
I have not posted for a while due to work.

Anyway - for some of the more technical furs I have a couple of idea's

One of the problems  of wearing a fursuit and wanting to put animatronics
into it is controlling them. With professional special effects companies you
can have teams of people with remote control units activating the servo's.
But if your are one person then it becomes much more difficult. Especially
when trying to act in the suit as well.

One possibility is voice recgonition. There are sever small self contained
kits out there. I have found this one
http://www.active-robots.com/products/accessories/speech.shtml which can
handle 20 to 40 words.

The codes relating to these words are send output via an serial port.

The words you use do NOT have to me real words. You can program whines,
growls, snorts and any other 'sound' you want and the system can be taught
to recognise them.

I have mentioned PicAXE's before. These are brilliant little chip that you
can program in BASIC. They have a lot of instructions for handling Servo's
and Stepping motors, as well as a lot of other I/O functionality.

This is great for working with upto 4 or 5 servo's.

If you want  more then there is this fellow..
http://www.robotshop.ca/home/suppliers/devantech-en/devantech-sd21-servo-con
troller.html  This can controll upto 21 servo's.  One very nice feature is
that you can set it to move a servo from point A to B in X milliseconds.
This will take a lot of load off programming various sequences etc.

To use it you can drop in either a BASIC-Stamp, or a 18X PicAXE and it will
run happily using the I2C bus.  Addin memory is easy as you can wire up
serial EEPROMS.

Programming concepts.

What I was thinking of was this - setting up the memory as a continious bank
from 0 to XXXX.  The first 20 locations are set as jump points to the
sequences.

i.e.

Position 1 = 256  = From Locatin 256 is the seguence for command 1.

With care and control bytes you can do a lot including a psuedo language for
loops, pauses, etc. The rest is your imagination.

I hope some of my idea's will give folks a way to solve problems etc.

Take Car

Dave a.k.a. Marcwolf
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From bob at ginkosoft.com  Wed Dec 26 18:31:49 2007
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:31:49 -0800
Subject: FL: Idea's for projects
In-Reply-To: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOICEJIFIAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>
References: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOICEJIFIAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>
	<1198609925.3B5ABE42@dj11.dngr.org>
	<1198614706.40C3887@fe8.dngr.org>
	<1198711913.34AF5296@fd9.dngr.org>
Message-ID: <1198711914.757AAEE@ff2.dngr.org>

> One of the problems  of wearing a fursuit and wanting to put 
> animatronics
> into it is controlling them.

(BTW, first time posting, and love your website, Marcwolf)

Has anyone tried something somewhat automatic, where you don't have to 
conciously control them? I remember you mentioned a tail that swayed, 
but I'm thinking for head controls. For example, with a 6 
degree-of-freedom sudden motion sensor (like what's in the wii remote 
and some laptops) installed in the head, you could tell head movement 
control the eyes with it.

A sudden turn to the left or right typically implies looking in that 
direction, so the character's eyes moving that way would be natural. 
Similarly, looking up for wider eyes, looking down for closed eyes.

Another control would be small cheap microphones, one in each costume 
ear. Not only for improved hearing in costume but polling at even 1kHz 
would be enough to determine noise level.

If things are louder to the left, the left ear could swivel as if trying 
to hear. If things are louder to the right, the right ear could swivel 
instead. If there's a loud sound in general, both ears could swivel back 
and flattened.

Also, any thoughts on the arduino ( www.arduino.cc )?

--BobCoon

From kody_wolf at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 27 13:13:10 2007
From: kody_wolf at yahoo.com (Kody Wolf)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:13:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 20, Issue 6
In-Reply-To: <mailman.7.1198774805.19972.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <992409.5099.qm@web62512.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hello Bob,

I've seen what you describe already, animitronics that are pre-programmed. Ears that move towards sounds, tails that wag by themselves, or when you walk, eyes that bink and move... it's been done... but couldn't tell you who did them - maybe someone else can on this list.

-Kody Wolf


Message: 1
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:31:49 -0800
From: Bob Bauhaus 
Subject: Re: FL: Idea's for projects
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Message-ID: <1198711914.757AAEE at ff2.dngr.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"

> One of the problems  of wearing a fursuit and wanting to put 
> animatronics
> into it is controlling them.

(BTW, first time posting, and love your website, Marcwolf)

Has anyone tried something somewhat automatic, where you don't have to 
conciously control them? I remember you mentioned a tail that swayed, 
but I'm thinking for head controls. For example, with a 6 
degree-of-freedom sudden motion sensor (like what's in the wii remote 
and some laptops) installed in the head, you could tell head movement 
control the eyes with it.

A sudden turn to the left or right typically implies looking in that 
direction, so the character's eyes moving that way would be natural. 
Similarly, looking up for wider eyes, looking down for closed eyes.

Another control would be small cheap microphones, one in each costume 
ear. Not only for improved hearing in costume but polling at even 1kHz 
would be enough to determine noise level.

If things are louder to the left, the left ear could swivel as if trying 
to hear. If things are louder to the right, the right ear could swivel 
instead. If there's a loud sound in general, both ears could swivel back 
and flattened.

Also, any thoughts on the arduino ( www.arduino.cc )?

--BobCoon
       
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From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Thu Dec 27 21:18:48 2007
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 02:18:48 +0000
Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 20, Issue 6
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References: <mailman.7.1198774805.19972.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
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I think the best person to ask might be wolftail.


Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:13:10 -0800From: kody_wolf at yahoo.comTo: bob at ginkosoft.comCC: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 20, Issue 6Hello Bob,I've seen what you describe already, animitronics that are pre-programmed. Ears that move towards sounds, tails that wag by themselves, or when you walk, eyes that bink and move... it's been done... but couldn't tell you who did them - maybe someone else can on this list.-Kody WolfMessage: 1Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:31:49 -0800From: Bob Bauhaus Subject: Re: FL: Idea's for projectsTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgMessage-ID: <1198711914.757AAEE at ff2.dngr.org>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"> One of the problems of wearing a fursuit and wanting to put > animatronics> into it is controlling them.(BTW, first time posting, and love your website, Marcwolf)Has anyone tried something somewhat automatic, where you don't have to conciously control them? I remember you mentioned a tail that swayed, but I'm thinking for head controls. For example, with a 6 degree-of-freedom sudden motion sensor (like what's in the wii remote and some laptops) installed in the head, you could tell head movement control the eyes with it.A sudden turn to the left or right typically implies looking in that direction, so the character's eyes moving that way would be natural. Similarly, looking up for wider eyes, looking down for closed eyes.Another control would be small cheap microphones, one in each costume ear. Not only for improved hearing in costume but polling at even 1kHz would be enough to determine noise level.If things are louder to the left, the left ear could swivel as if trying to hear. If things are louder to the right, the right ear could swivel instead. If there's a loud sound in general, both ears could swivel back and flattened.Also, any thoughts on the arduino ( www.arduino.cc )?--BobCoon 


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From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Fri Dec 28 12:38:06 2007
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:38:06 +0000
Subject: FL: Balaclava question
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     Whom ever that can help me some,
 
I'm about ready to take a stab at making a balaclava head, but my problem is: How can I make the 20.5" wigstand head match the 22" of my own head so this can turn out to fit me more than turn out to be a complete waste?
 
Thanks for the help,
     ~Shadow-Da-Wolf
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From tsuyoto at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 13:02:22 2007
From: tsuyoto at gmail.com (Tsuyoto Wolf)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 10:02:22 -0800
Subject: FL: Balaclava question
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I had a friend help me make a duct tape dummy head. It has been
discussed a few times in the fursuit LJ community. There are some
How-To's out there, but I'll go over how mine was made.
Having someone help you is a must. Beyond the dangers of suffocation,
doing such work on your own head would be close to impossible.
I started with a balaclava on my head, my hair completely tucked
underneath it. Then, my friend wrapped my head in cellophane, leaving
my nostrils uncovered so I could breath. Once my head was wrapped and
the cellophane was sticking to itself, he begin placing strips of duct
tape on the cellophane, none on the balaclava. To give the duct tape
head some structure, he started with a band of duct tape around my
crown, like a sweat band. Then a chin strap and pieces across the top
of my head. The pieces don't have to be terribly long, so they are
easier to shape to the contours of your head. Again, the bridge of
your nose can be covered but leave your nostrils uncovered. Once there
was a solid layer of duct tape around my head, he took a pair of cheap
child's safety scissors and cut the cellophane and duct tape. He
started from the back of my neck to slightly below the top of my head.
This allowed the duct tape and cellophane to be removed with out
damaging the balaclava. Don't worry about the cellophane, it can stay
attached to the duck tape head. Take off the balaclava, tape the cut
seam together, stuff the head with polyphil, then tape up the neck
hole.

I hope this helps,

-Tsuyoto

On 12/28/07, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:
>
>       Whom ever that can help me some,
>
>  I'm about ready to take a stab at making a balaclava head, but my problem
> is: How can I make the 20.5" wigstand head match the 22" of my own head so
> this can turn out to fit me more than turn out to be a complete waste?
>
>  Thanks for the help,
>       ~Shadow-Da-Wolf

From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Fri Dec 28 13:12:21 2007
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:12:21 +0000
Subject: FL: Balaclava question
In-Reply-To: <e44a10180712281002m5d826673p8ee262d5a16f1410@mail.gmail.com>
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I'll keep this in mind if my help would like to try this... but I already have a stand that I plan to work with...> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 10:02:22 -0800> From: tsuyoto at gmail.com> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> Subject: Re: FL: Balaclava question> > I had a friend help me make a duct tape dummy head. It has been> discussed a few times in the fursuit LJ community. There are some> How-To's out there, but I'll go over how mine was made.> Having someone help you is a must. Beyond the dangers of suffocation,> doing such work on your own head would be close to impossible.> I started with a balaclava on my head, my hair completely tucked> underneath it. Then, my friend wrapped my head in cellophane, leaving> my nostrils uncovered so I could breath. Once my head was wrapped and> the cellophane was sticking to itself, he begin placing strips of duct> tape on the cellophane, none on the balaclava. To give the duct tape> head some structure, he started with a band of duct tape around my> crown, like a sweat band. Then a chin strap and pieces across the top> of my head. The pieces don't have to be terribly long, so they are> easier to shape to the contours of your head. Again, the bridge of> your nose can be covered but leave your nostrils uncovered. Once there> was a solid layer of duct tape around my head, he took a pair of cheap> child's safety scissors and cut the cellophane and duct tape. He> started from the back of my neck to slightly below the top of my head.> This allowed the duct tape and cellophane to be removed with out> damaging the balaclava. Don't worry about the cellophane, it can stay> attached to the duck tape head. Take off the balaclava, tape the cut> seam together, stuff the head with polyphil, then tape up the neck> hole.> > I hope this helps,> > -Tsuyoto> > On 12/28/07, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:> >> > Whom ever that can help me some,> >> > I'm about ready to take a stab at making a balaclava head, but my problem> > is: How can I make the 20.5" wigstand head match the 22" of my own head so> > this can turn out to fit me more than turn out to be a complete waste?> >> > Thanks for the help,> > ~Shadow-Da-Wolf> _______________________________________________> _______________________________________________> Fursuit Mail list.> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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From pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 28 13:21:00 2007
From: pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com (Kit Kat)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 10:21:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Balaclava question
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I have worked only with balaclava heads so far and I would actually cut inch thick slabs of foam and duck tape it around the foam heads till I got a lil bit over the measurements of my head (Warning: do not compress the foam down, the foam will tend to try to expand and lift the duct tape up) Cuz when working with the balaclava has you fur it it will shape the head and reduce the stretch in the material which is why the zipper feature is very important otherwise you can't put it over your head...I have also used thick ace bandages for small alterations in size and duct tape over cuz the glue sometimes goes through depending on what fabric the balaclava is made of. 

shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:    .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma }   I'll keep this in mind if my help would like to try this... but I already have a stand that I plan to work with...

> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 10:02:22 -0800
> From: tsuyoto at gmail.com
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: Balaclava question
> 
> I had a friend help me make a duct tape dummy head. It has been
> discussed a few times in the fursuit LJ community. There are some
> How-To's out there, but I'll go over how mine was made.
> Having someone help you is a must. Beyond the dangers of suffocation,
> doing such work on your own head would be close to impossible.
> I started with a balaclava on my head, my hair completely tucked
> underneath it. Then, my friend wrapped my head in cellophane, leaving
> my nostrils uncovered so I could breath. Once my head was wrapped and
> the cellophane was sticking to itself, he begin placing strips of duct
> tape on the cellophane, none on the balaclava. To give the duct tape
> head some structure, he started with a band of duct tape around my
> crown, like a sweat band. Then a chin strap and pieces across the top
> of my head. The pieces don't have to be terribly long, so they are
> easier to shape to the contours of your head. Again, the bridge of
> your nose can be covered but leave your nostrils uncovered. Once there
> was a solid layer of duct tape around my head, he took a pair of cheap
> child's safety scissors and cut the cellophane and duct tape. He
> started from the back of my neck to slightly below the top of my head.
> This allowed the duct tape and cellophane to be removed with out
> damaging the balaclava. Don't worry about the cellophane, it can stay
> attached to the duck tape head. Take off the balaclava, tape the cut
> seam together, stuff the head with polyphil, then tape up the neck
> hole.
> 
> I hope this helps,
> 
> -Tsuyoto
> 
> On 12/28/07, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > Whom ever that can help me some,
> >
> > I'm about ready to take a stab at making a balaclava head, but my problem
> > is: How can I make the 20.5" wigstand head match the 22" of my own head so
> > this can turn out to fit me more than turn out to be a complete waste?
> >
> > Thanks for the help,
> > ~Shadow-Da-Wolf
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From furrycouple at hotmail.com  Sat Dec 29 12:56:25 2007
From: furrycouple at hotmail.com (Johara Saluki)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:56:25 -0200
Subject: FL: Balaclava question
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Here's how I made a life cast of my head. Using duct tape may not be as rigid as you like. Go to a hobby/craft store and ask for plaster gauze. This is wonderful stuff. You cut it into strips, dip in water, then cover the desired surface. This stuff will harden in about 15 minutes giving you a rigid mold. If you put this on your head and you have hair, be sure to use a plastic bag fitting tightly so as to retain as much of your nature shape. For your face, use vaseline on eyebrows and such....clean shaven works best for the rest. Only make a mold of half your head (side to side) at a time, or you will have a heck of a time cutting it off. Use the gauze at the end to join the two halves together. For me, I had two part polyeurothane expanding foam. I filled the mold with this, let it set then peeled the gauze off. Now I had a life cast of my head that I could pin to. If you go this route, don't use 'Great Stuff' foam. This requires porosity to allow the solvents to evaporate from the foam. The plaster gauze does not breathe. If you use the balaclava on your head for all of this, it may add thickness making the mold bigger. 
Keep in mind, the gauze will stick to hair (voice of experience) so cover or coat it. This is a little more work than the tape, but the result is a more sturdy form. 
Good luck. I'm about ready to take a stab at making a balaclava head, but my problem is: How can I make the 20.5" wigstand head match the 22" of my own head so this can turn out to fit me more than turn out to be a complete waste? Thanks for the help,     ~Shadow-Da-Wolf



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From wonder_moose_blue at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 29 20:45:55 2007
From: wonder_moose_blue at yahoo.com (Mark Sinicki)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:45:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Balaclava question
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Wrap the wig stand head with polyester batting until you get the volume you need. Then cover that with a plastic shopping bag and tape it down to conform.

shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:      .hmmessage P  {  margin:0px;  padding:0px  }  body.hmmessage  {  FONT-SIZE: 10pt;  FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma  }         Whom ever that can help me some,
 
I'm about ready to take a stab at making a balaclava head, but my problem is: How can I make the 20.5" wigstand head match the 22" of my own head so this can turn out to fit me more than turn out to be a complete waste?
 
Thanks for the help,
     ~Shadow-Da-Wolf

  
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From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Sat Dec 29 23:35:11 2007
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 04:35:11 +0000
Subject: FL: Balaclava question
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where could I find the polyester batting at?


Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:45:55 -0800From: wonder_moose_blue at yahoo.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: Balaclava questionWrap the wig stand head with polyester batting until you get the volume you need. Then cover that with a plastic shopping bag and tape it down to conform.shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote: 


     Whom ever that can help me some, I'm about ready to take a stab at making a balaclava head, but my problem is: How can I make the 20.5" wigstand head match the 22" of my own head so this can turn out to fit me more than turn out to be a complete waste? Thanks for the help,     ~Shadow-Da-Wolf

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From bob at ginkosoft.com  Sat Dec 29 23:54:31 2007
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:54:31 -0800
Subject: FL: Balaclava question
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> where could I find the polyester batting at?

Most crafts and fabrics stores will have them. It's the stuffing used in 
quilts. So wherever you're getting your fur from.

In short, use the duct tape to rough out a shape, use the styrofoam head 
to give it a way to mount and solidity, and stuff with padding or 
batting to fill in the difference.

-BobCoon