From zoharskarth at yahoo.com  Thu Jan  3 00:05:11 2008
From: zoharskarth at yahoo.com (jenna kiyona)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 21:05:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: joining the list....
Message-ID: <107017.56322.qm@web63110.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

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From kalagei at gmail.com  Sat Jan  5 01:08:12 2008
From: kalagei at gmail.com (Kalagei The Fox)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 22:08:12 -0800
Subject: FL: Looking for long pile red fox (R\rust) colored fur.
Message-ID: <77b0f0110801042208l49da1608n129d279e427ec62e@mail.gmail.com>

I have some that is rust colored, but fades into a darker color...really the
perfect fabric for a fox suit. I need way more for a project, so if anyone
has some they are willing to sell, or know where I can but it, please let me
know.

-Kalagei
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From rj_fox at hotmail.com  Sat Jan  5 15:43:42 2008
From: rj_fox at hotmail.com (Ryan A.K.A  RJ Fox Michaelis)
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 12:43:42 -0800
Subject: FL: Looking for long pile red fox (R\rust) colored fur.
In-Reply-To: <77b0f0110801042208l49da1608n129d279e427ec62e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <77b0f0110801042208l49da1608n129d279e427ec62e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY119-W12B63F615BDEF758A16692F94D0@phx.gbl>


im looking for a usd fox head 


Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 22:08:12 -0800From: kalagei at gmail.comTo: fursuit-list at fursuit.orgSubject: FL: Looking for long pile red fox (R\rust) colored fur.I have some that is rust colored, but fades into a darker color...really the perfect fabric for a fox suit. I need way more for a project, so if anyone has some they are willing to sell, or know where I can but it, please let me know. -Kalagei
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From esuterure2006 at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  5 16:07:55 2008
From: esuterure2006 at yahoo.com (MECHELLE FREDERICK)
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 13:07:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: A HELPING HAND FROM A FELLOW FURRY
In-Reply-To: <BAY119-W12B63F615BDEF758A16692F94D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <939260.37764.qm@web55315.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

  hi,i know where you can get some red fox fur from,if your still interested email me!
   
  -chelle





       
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From illpalazzosama at gmail.com  Sat Jan  5 21:59:26 2008
From: illpalazzosama at gmail.com (Jesse Triplett)
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 21:59:26 -0500
Subject: FL: A HELPING HAND FROM A FELLOW FURRY
In-Reply-To: <939260.37764.qm@web55315.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <BAY119-W12B63F615BDEF758A16692F94D0@phx.gbl>
	<939260.37764.qm@web55315.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <17c400530801051859m47ac673bvee5b956c90a9656e@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, i've not used the list much, and i know i'm probly not supposed to do it
like this, so if there is a better way please tell me.

<<ahem>>

I'd love some fox fur.

Kodey

On Jan 5, 2008 4:07 PM, MECHELLE FREDERICK <esuterure2006 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> hi,i know where you can get some red fox fur from,if your still interested
> email me!
>
> -chelle
>
>
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From synthwolf at gmail.com  Sun Jan  6 02:01:09 2008
From: synthwolf at gmail.com (Jon Lee)
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 23:01:09 -0800
Subject: FL: Looking for long pile red fox (R\rust) colored fur.
In-Reply-To: <77b0f0110801042208l49da1608n129d279e427ec62e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <77b0f0110801042208l49da1608n129d279e427ec62e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <60e717ff0801052301gd8cbddfibd639e648ebee7b0@mail.gmail.com>

Hey there,
I just bought some actually, (their last 4 yards!) at Pacific Fabrics in
Seattle where I live.  I believe it is possible to get their fur fabrics via
Internet mail order.

http://www.pacificfabrics.com/

If they don't have it, try Mendel's, in SF, but also online at
mendels.com(it might be .net)
They have a ridiculous amount of fur, it's amazing.  And they can send
little samples of it, for free (or at least cheap).  Hope this helps you on
your epic fur-quest!

--Synthwolf

On Jan 4, 2008 10:08 PM, Kalagei The Fox < kalagei at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have some that is rust colored, but fades into a darker color...really
> the perfect fabric for a fox suit. I need way more for a project, so if
> anyone has some they are willing to sell, or know where I can but it, please
> let me know.
>
> -Kalagei
>
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From esuterure2006 at yahoo.com  Sun Jan  6 14:03:07 2008
From: esuterure2006 at yahoo.com (MECHELLE FREDERICK)
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 11:03:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: HERE'S YO HELP (I SHOULD BE PAID FOR THIS!)
In-Reply-To: <17c400530801051859m47ac673bvee5b956c90a9656e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <501514.66541.qm@web55303.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

  here you go my man,go to bladesparks website,her name is stephanie park,look for the fur for sale,she should still be selling red fox fur,i should be paid for this!,ENJOY!
   
  -chelle





       
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From m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de  Sun Jan  6 18:03:09 2008
From: m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de (m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de)
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 00:03:09 +0100
Subject: FL: Contact to Darkstone - ???? And search for the fur they used
	for the suits.
In-Reply-To: <501514.66541.qm@web55303.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <17c400530801051859m47ac673bvee5b956c90a9656e@mail.gmail.com>
	<501514.66541.qm@web55303.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <989445113.20080107000309@maskottchen-germany.de>

Hi Furs,

I have a slight problem here. 
I ordered a Tiger Body form Darkstone costumes for a local basketball club. Because is now 4 months I'm waiting on the payed body i tryed to contact then - with no result. Mail and phone does not work anymore.
So could if possible someone of you and knows the guys ask em whats happen ?

I have the slight feeling that i've been riped off again.

Beside that I need further information.
Because my basketball club is desperate waiting on the suit i will sew em here in my Mascot Workshop ( I have the Cut Pattern of the Costume here). But i have a big problem they used cheap fun fur for the suits and this brand is not sold in Europe. So does someone of you have a online resource of that fur in the US or even a fabric store next to get it.

http://www.maskottchen-germany.de/Shop/DS/Images/Katzen&Tiger&Loewen/Tiger%20realistisch.jpg


Here a picture of the tiger for the colors.

Greetings

Atalon the Deer

PS: And does someone has the addy of Dogz a're Barking he is also on my to do list???




From dlely at juno.com  Sun Jan  6 22:04:33 2008
From: dlely at juno.com (David L. Ely)
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 19:04:33 -0800
Subject: FL: Fursuiting Event: Pasadena (CA) Doo Dah Parade
Message-ID: <20080106.190656.4632.21.dlely@juno.com>

Dear Parade Loving Furs and Fursuiters:

You read that subject line correctly!  The postponed 31st Occasional
Pasadena Doo Dah Parade in Southern California is coming up in two weeks
on its new date of Sunday the 20th and yer all invited to watch, help, or
if ya have a fursuit, participate!  Yes, I know, it's five days before
Further Confusion, BUT if you're gonna be in Southern California anyway
and want to have some pre con fun then join us!

Here's how to participate: 1) simply e-mail me (NOT this list) at
dlely at juno.com telling me you'll be there.  I will reply with
confirmation giving you more details.  2) Check out the Parade's official
web site at http://www.pasadenadoodahparade.info/ for further information
and maps.  Then on Sunday the 20th of January: 3) meet all of us furry
participants in Memorial Park (150 North Raymond Avenue, Pasadena CA
91103) before 10:30 AM.  4) Pay your $10.00 per person entry fee to the
organizers (The Light Bringer Project - a nonprofit arts organization). 
5) Wait in the park and have some fun . . . then jump in the Parade at
11:30 AM and have more fun!

But wait there's more!  After the parade everyfur usually chows down at a
popular Pasadena watering hole!

If you have any questions, feel free to e-mail me.  Hope to see ya all
there!

David L. Ely - AKA: Scruff E. Coyote - dlely at juno.com
"How many hearts with warm blood in them are beating
under the cover of the woods . . . .   A multitude of
animal people, intimately related to us . . . are busy
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From camstone at dirtdeninn.com  Mon Jan  7 00:01:39 2008
From: camstone at dirtdeninn.com (Camstone)
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 00:01:39 -0500
Subject: FL: Contact to Darkstone - ???? And search for the fur they
 used for the suits.
In-Reply-To: <989445113.20080107000309@maskottchen-germany.de>
References: <17c400530801051859m47ac673bvee5b956c90a9656e@mail.gmail.com>
	<501514.66541.qm@web55303.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
	<989445113.20080107000309@maskottchen-germany.de>
Message-ID: <4781B233.40704@dirtdeninn.com>

They are now known as "Realms of Enchantment" and have been for some time.
http://realms.safeshopper.com/

Latest information from their website is:*
Address:*
8 E Palomar St.
Chula Vista, CA 91911
*Phone:* 1-619-425-0068*
Email:* darkstone-realm at juno.com <mailto:darkstone-realm at juno.com>

Hope this helps. They have been "spotty" at times with deliveries, but 
if you keep after them, they have responded in the past. They also have 
been notoriously difficult and late with some "custom" designs, so if 
that is the case, just keep after them. And much of their fur striping 
and design is airbrushed into the fur, so there may not be a suitable or 
easy to find one-for-one replacement.

- Camstone

m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de wrote:
> Hi Furs,
>
> I have a slight problem here. 
> I ordered a Tiger Body form Darkstone costumes for a local basketball club. Because is now 4 months I'm waiting on the payed body i tryed to contact then - with no result. Mail and phone does not work anymore.
> So could if possible someone of you and knows the guys ask em whats happen ?
>
> I have the slight feeling that i've been riped off again.
>
> Beside that I need further information.
> Because my basketball club is desperate waiting on the suit i will sew em here in my Mascot Workshop ( I have the Cut Pattern of the Costume here). But i have a big problem they used cheap fun fur for the suits and this brand is not sold in Europe. So does someone of you have a online resource of that fur in the US or even a fabric store next to get it.
>
> http://www.maskottchen-germany.de/Shop/DS/Images/Katzen&Tiger&Loewen/Tiger%20realistisch.jpg
>
>
> Here a picture of the tiger for the colors.
>
> Greetings
>
> Atalon the Deer
>
> PS: And does someone has the addy of Dogz a're Barking he is also on my to do list???
>
>
>
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> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
>
>
>
>   


From donkeyears at gmail.com  Fri Jan 11 19:03:54 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:03:54 -0800
Subject: FL: OT looking for furs around the USA
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0801111603u437288eelfe1b7d91357d1676@mail.gmail.com>

I am a over the road trucker and I like to meet up with furs all over the
country when I can stop.

If you know of e-mail groups like FL or like yahoo groups please pass them
along to me.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

donkeyears at gmail.com
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From tresnar at gmail.com  Fri Jan 11 23:44:11 2008
From: tresnar at gmail.com (Michael Baechle)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:44:11 -0800
Subject: FL: OT looking for furs around the USA
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0801111603u437288eelfe1b7d91357d1676@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d23d76ca0801111603u437288eelfe1b7d91357d1676@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57caa0240801112044n13203d1bk71d85225efa53d4e@mail.gmail.com>

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WA-furries/ is a mailing list for washington.

On 1/11/08, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
> I am a over the road trucker and I like to meet up with furs all over the
> country when I can stop.
>
> If you know of e-mail groups like FL or like yahoo groups please pass them
> along to me.
>
> His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
>
> donkeyears at gmail.com
>
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From featherhoof at bovinestudios.com  Sat Jan 12 01:36:09 2008
From: featherhoof at bovinestudios.com ("Cow" Lauterbach)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:36:09 -0500
Subject: FL: OT looking for furs around the USA
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0801111603u437288eelfe1b7d91357d1676@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001101c854e5$6c395600$6401a8c0@MooCowMigrate>

Moos,
 
http://www.michiganfurs.com/ is the site for most of the Michigan furries.
There's some others but starting at the main site will usually lead you to
them = :o p
 
Come say hi to me if you ever pass through the Grand Rapids, Michigan area!
 
Moos,
 
"Cow"

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From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
[mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Donkey
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:04 PM
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Subject: FL: OT looking for furs around the USA


I am a over the road trucker and I like to meet up with furs all over the
country when I can stop.

If you know of e-mail groups like FL or like yahoo groups please pass them
along to me.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey 

donkeyears at gmail.com



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From camstone at dirtdeninn.com  Sat Jan 12 21:24:41 2008
From: camstone at dirtdeninn.com (Camstone)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:24:41 -0500
Subject: FL: OT looking for furs around the USA
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0801111603u437288eelfe1b7d91357d1676@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d23d76ca0801111603u437288eelfe1b7d91357d1676@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47897669.7000207@dirtdeninn.com>

http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Mailing_lists
All the lists you ever needed...
And if that doesn't work, look up furs on IFPL or furfinder.
http://ifpl.cattech.org/

From donkeyears at gmail.com  Mon Jan 14 02:54:48 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 23:54:48 -0800
Subject: FL: OT looking for furs around the USA
In-Reply-To: <47897669.7000207@dirtdeninn.com>
References: <d23d76ca0801111603u437288eelfe1b7d91357d1676@mail.gmail.com>
	<47897669.7000207@dirtdeninn.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0801132354g398572e8r9cd3342f7ce555fa@mail.gmail.com>

furfinder does not work because its not updated. The last I looked at it
years ago. You don't know if the info was entered last week or ten years
ago. Some one could have moved 5 times since they said where they lived or
they might not be furs anymore.

I will try wikia out thanks. I did not think of looking there

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On Jan 12, 2008 6:24 PM, Camstone <camstone at dirtdeninn.com> wrote:

> http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Mailing_lists
> All the lists you ever needed...
> And if that doesn't work, look up furs on IFPL or furfinder.
> http://ifpl.cattech.org/
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From dlely at juno.com  Mon Jan 14 03:21:01 2008
From: dlely at juno.com (David L. Ely)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:21:01 -0800
Subject: FL: Fursuiting Event: Pasadena (CA) Doo Dah Parade
Message-ID: <20080114.002215.5304.17.dlely@juno.com>

Dear Parade Loving Furs and Fursuiters:

Just a one week reminder that the 31st Occasional Pasadena Doo Dah Parade
in Southern California is coming up this Sunday the 20th!  If ya wanna
come out to participate and haven't notified me yet, please do so at
dlely at juno.com (NOT this list) telling me you'll be there and I'll get
you more details.  In the meantime check out the Parade's official web
site at http://www.pasadenadoodahparade.info/ for further information and
maps.

David L. Ely - AKA: Scruff E. Coyote - dlely at juno.com
"How many hearts with warm blood in them are beating
under the cover of the woods . . . .   A multitude of
animal people, intimately related to us . . . are busy
about their own affairs as we are about ours." - John Muir

From fuzzyroo at gmail.com  Mon Jan 14 20:23:27 2008
From: fuzzyroo at gmail.com (Lucus Rocket)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:23:27 -0600
Subject: FL: OT looking for furs around the USA
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0801132354g398572e8r9cd3342f7ce555fa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d23d76ca0801111603u437288eelfe1b7d91357d1676@mail.gmail.com>
	<47897669.7000207@dirtdeninn.com>
	<d23d76ca0801132354g398572e8r9cd3342f7ce555fa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <186b03790801141723o5d1207afu4a9c7f788ecb545@mail.gmail.com>

check for KC fur's group in kansas on yahoo groups :) it think we are up
there lmao hehe

On Jan 14, 2008 1:54 AM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:

> furfinder does not work because its not updated. The last I looked at it
> years ago. You don't know if the info was entered last week or ten years
> ago. Some one could have moved 5 times since they said where they lived or
> they might not be furs anymore.
>
> I will try wikia out thanks. I did not think of looking there
>
> His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
>
>   On Jan 12, 2008 6:24 PM, Camstone <camstone at dirtdeninn.com > wrote:
>
> > http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Mailing_lists
> > All the lists you ever needed...
> > And if that doesn't work, look up furs on IFPL or furfinder.
> > http://ifpl.cattech.org/
> >  _______________________________________________
> > _______________________________________________
> > Fursuit Mail list.
> > To edit your subscription, visit:
> > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
> >
>
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From pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 14 20:39:39 2008
From: pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com (Kit Kat)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:39:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: OT looking for furs around the USA
In-Reply-To: <186b03790801141723o5d1207afu4a9c7f788ecb545@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <906260.30135.qm@web53809.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

you can always look on yahoo groups and Livejournal Communities..I found a lot of my AZ furs that way also you can probably attempt to find furs on furry forums like furriehaven.com for furs where your at.

Lucus Rocket <fuzzyroo at gmail.com> wrote: check for KC fur's group in kansas on yahoo groups :) it think we are up there lmao hehe

 On Jan 14, 2008 1:54 AM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
 furfinder does not work because its not updated. The last I looked at it years ago. You don't know if the info was entered last week or ten years ago. Some one could have moved 5 times since they said where they lived or they might not be furs anymore.  

I will try wikia out thanks. I did not think of looking there  

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey


  
  On Jan 12, 2008 6:24 PM, Camstone <camstone at dirtdeninn.com > wrote:
 http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Mailing_lists 
All the lists you ever needed...
And if that doesn't work, look up furs on IFPL or furfinder.
http://ifpl.cattech.org/ 
  
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From francisco-sender-6f5fe9 at vulpes.net  Fri Jan 18 16:53:47 2008
From: francisco-sender-6f5fe9 at vulpes.net (Francisco Azinsan)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:53:47 -0600
Subject: FL: Final FC2008 Pre-Con Newsletter
Message-ID: <20080118215347.GA60473@critter.net>


The very last newsletter for FC2008. This time, we're covering the
following:

1.  Dealer's Room
2.  Furry Market Place
3.  Box Office / Anime 
4.  Hotel Information
5.  Furly Edition
6.  Preliminary Schedule and Important Times
7.  Art Show
8.  Furry Night Live 2008 - Lineup almost full!
9.  Final Staff Meeting

                              _ . o O o . _ 

1.  Dealer's Room

Dealers Room is sold out. Waiting List is closed and is not adding more
people. Those of you on the waiting list still have a chance if there are
any cancellations.

Dealers, pease check your postal mail, you should have gotten a
confirmation packet with your personal information and the Dealer Room
Rules for the year. If you have not gotten your confirmation packet,
contact dealers at furtherconfusion.org and we will get your mailing address
corrected and a new confirmation packet sent to you. This information is
also on the Dealers area of the website.

Dealers, if for ANY reason you will NOT make it to the convention, contact
dealers at furtherconfusion.org as soon as you are aware that you won't make
it to the convention.


2.  Furry Market Place

Furry Market Place sales are closed. Waiting List is closed and is not
adding more people.

Furry Market Place vendors, please check your postal mail, you should have
gotten a confirmation packet with your personal information and the Furry
Market Place Rules for the year. If you have not gotten your confirmation
packet, contact dealers at furtheronfusion.org and we will get your mailing
address corrected and a new confirmation packet sent to you. This
information is also on the Dealers area of the website.



3.  Box Office / Anime 

Once again, the Bay Area Animation Society is bringing anime to Further
Confusion!

Anime will be running in the Santa Clara Room (by the bathrooms next to
Club Maxx) from 7:00 pm Thursday evening to half past noon on Monday.

The anime titles themselves will shift back and forth between the cutting
edge and older favorites. Be sure to check the showing schedule on the
door for what we'll be showing and when.

As usual, actual titles and showing times may change without notice due to
unforeseen circumstances. Some of the scheduled titles may be replaced at
the last minute by some special surprises!

Anime being shown will be kept to PG-13 throughout the daytime, and shift
towards more mature tastes through the night (sorry, no porn!).

Due to prior experiences with locales that have curfews, BAAS does check
audience members for proof of age from around midnight to about 6:00 am
while the room is open. If you are under 18 (or acting like it) and in the
anime room during this time without your parent or legal guardian being
with you, you will be asked to leave the room. Besides, if you?re under
18, you need your sleep (in a bed) anyways!


4.  Hotel Information

By now, the hotel blocks for Further Confusion 2008 at both the DoubleTree
and Holiday Inn have closed. No further reservations at the con rate are
possible.

However, we can still take requests to manage your existing reservation.
For example, if you'd like to change or add names on a room, transfer your
room to someone else, request a roll-away bed, etc.


5.  Furly Edition

The Furly Edition is our at-con newsletter, and will be printed for each
day of the convention. Furly Edition #0 will be available on the Thursday
of the con. If you have announcements for later printings of Furly
Edition, we will have submission boxes put out at the con. Usually, these
can be found at the Info Desk as well as Convention Operations.


6.  Preliminary Schedule and Important Times

Theres always last minute changes but its pretty well locked down and can
be found here:

<http://www.furtherconfusion.org/fc2008/schedule>


7.  Art Show

Art show is full. We have about 15 people in the waiting list for some, or
additional panels. We're slowly allocating panels as artist's release
theirs for various reasons. Every applicant should have been contacted by
e-mail by now: If you haven't heard from us, please e-mail us immediately
so we can get you the information you need.

Two important requests: Please e-mail us - at con-time, call - as soon as
you know if you won't be using all your panels, or if you're running late.
Also, please scan and e-mail us your control sheet so we can do pre-con
data entry.

If you'd like to assist ON the art show with us, please drop us a note at
artshow at furtherconfusion.org


8.  Furry Night Live 2008 - Lineup almost full!

FC's Sunday evening stage show features a variety of furry acts performed
live, plus short video segments, with cash prizes decided on audience
ballot. If you are interested in performing a skit in the Sunday evening
stage show, please see the info desk to find
out if the lineup is full. 

For more information or questions, please see the FNL Lead, Yippee, on
Friday from 10:30am to noon at the Events Office (Room #123), or at the
Dress Rehearal on Saturday from 11:30am to 2:00pm on the Main Stage. 

Pre-registered acts can turn in their final paperwork and media at these
times.


9.  Final Staff Meeting

Our next and final staff meeting will be January 19th starting at noon in
the San Jose Doubletree hotel. Come be part of something great, and it's
still not too late to volunteer! Look at any LCD screen for "Further
Confusion..." to see what meeting room we will be in.

Thats all folks. Once again thanks for reading, see you at the con...

-- 
Further Confusion
info at furtherconfusion.org
http://www.furtherconfusion.org/

From nurikoutsukushii at gmail.com  Sat Jan 19 15:21:48 2008
From: nurikoutsukushii at gmail.com (Ryshili Luparelli)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:21:48 -0800
Subject: FL: Join
Message-ID: <6e087c330801191221x79063cf1t8475fd472fd72234@mail.gmail.com>

I was told I could Join.

-- 
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Check out my art:
http://ryshili.deviantart.com/
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From fursuit at jovino.com  Sat Jan 19 19:23:44 2008
From: fursuit at jovino.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?jovino_=A0?=)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:23:44 -0800
Subject: FL: Join
In-Reply-To: <6e087c330801191221x79063cf1t8475fd472fd72234@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6e087c330801191221x79063cf1t8475fd472fd72234@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <96A6CA3A-3B99-4A9D-91C1-C58198F4E16D@jovino.com>

Who told you that?!

Rule number one about the fursuit list: nobody talks about the  
fursuit list.
Rule number two: if it's your first time here, you gotta suit!


  _   _
| |_| |
[~ x ~]
/    \
\____/D
jovino
bunnywarez.com
oakland, ca



On Jan 19, 2008, at 12:21 PM, Ryshili Luparelli wrote:

> I was told I could Join.
>
> -- 
> ~Ryshili ???
>
> Check out my art:
> http://ryshili.deviantart.com/
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From nurikoutsukushii at gmail.com  Sat Jan 19 19:44:11 2008
From: nurikoutsukushii at gmail.com (Ryshili Luparelli)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:44:11 -0800
Subject: FL: Join
In-Reply-To: <96A6CA3A-3B99-4A9D-91C1-C58198F4E16D@jovino.com>
References: <6e087c330801191221x79063cf1t8475fd472fd72234@mail.gmail.com>
	<96A6CA3A-3B99-4A9D-91C1-C58198F4E16D@jovino.com>
Message-ID: <6e087c330801191644v5e0a7c7dv5c4305b86559c036@mail.gmail.com>

XD Oh crud. That wasn't suppose to be sent to the listing. That means
someone else has this nice thing about fursuiting.

On Jan 19, 2008 4:23 PM, jovino <fursuit at jovino.com> wrote:

> Who told you that?!
>
> Rule number one about the fursuit list: nobody talks about the
> fursuit list.
> Rule number two: if it's your first time here, you gotta suit!
>
>
>  _   _
> | |_| |
> [~ x ~]
> /    \
> \____/D
> jovino
> bunnywarez.com
> oakland, ca
>
>
>
> On Jan 19, 2008, at 12:21 PM, Ryshili Luparelli wrote:
>
> > I was told I could Join.
> >
> > --
> > ~Ryshili ???
> >
> > Check out my art:
> > http://ryshili.deviantart.com/
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From fursuit at jovino.com  Sat Jan 19 23:23:29 2008
From: fursuit at jovino.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?jovino_=A0?=)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:23:29 -0800
Subject: FL: Join
In-Reply-To: <6e087c330801191644v5e0a7c7dv5c4305b86559c036@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6e087c330801191221x79063cf1t8475fd472fd72234@mail.gmail.com>
	<96A6CA3A-3B99-4A9D-91C1-C58198F4E16D@jovino.com>
	<6e087c330801191644v5e0a7c7dv5c4305b86559c036@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2F5C142C-B6A3-4001-9F8F-89699E36C288@jovino.com>

Ha ha ha!!!

Hi! Welcome to the list. :)


( V )
(o.O)
(u u)*
  U U
jovino
bunnywarez.com
oakland, ca


On Jan 19, 2008, at 4:44 PM, Ryshili Luparelli wrote:

> XD Oh crud. That wasn't suppose to be sent to the listing. That  
> means someone else has this nice thing about fursuiting.

From pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 20 09:39:23 2008
From: pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com (Kit Kat)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 06:39:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Join
In-Reply-To: <6e087c330801191221x79063cf1t8475fd472fd72234@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <728060.39939.qm@web53802.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Welcome to the list..hope you enjoy everything

Ryshili Luparelli <nurikoutsukushii at gmail.com> wrote: I was told I could Join.

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From guitarra_flauta at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 20 18:58:19 2008
From: guitarra_flauta at yahoo.com (Guitarra Flauta)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:58:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Post
Message-ID: <763917.79027.qm@web57505.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hello, well its my first time posting here.
I have joined earlier, but i have never get on posting a message.
Actualy never have something to comment about.
But i got a question.
Suddenly i have think...
?Wich its a good way to make "eyes"?
I have always think my eyes (well acctually trought my mask).
Look way to small, so theres no way to make a "glass" or something to look trought the mask, but that will look like an eye from outside.
I have noticed in not very lighted places, visibility its very limitated from inside a mask.
Cheers!


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From bob at ginkosoft.com  Mon Jan 21 20:37:06 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:37:06 -0800
Subject: FL: Post
In-Reply-To: <763917.79027.qm@web57505.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <763917.79027.qm@web57505.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1200965830.1A1F85B9@bd12.dngr.org>

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:58, Guitarra Flauta wrote:
> Which is a good way to make "eyes"?

It really depends on what style you want. I've seen some where the white 
part of the eye is plastic (for example: 
http://www.matrices.net/eyes.asp ) and you see only out the black 
pupil.

The other style is to have the entire eye be wire or plastic mesh and 
painted. It gives you more area for air and to see through, but you'll 
probably need a layer of fabric to avoid having your face visible 
through camera flashes. I'm going to be trying this approach, myself.

Lastly, I suppose you could use the lenses from sunglasses, as they're 
designed to be seen through, but this has the drawback of not letting 
any air through.

Hope this helps
--BobCoon

From eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 21 23:11:46 2008
From: eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com (Jason Taipale)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:11:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases
Message-ID: <945737.66812.qm@web52509.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hello,
I recently purchased some synthetic fur from the local fabric shop, and when I got it home, I noticed that it had several big creases in it.  (As an aside, I think its acrylic)  I would guess that they are there from it being folded too long in the store.  My question is: will the crease marks come out on their own, or is there anything I can do to get them out?
Thank you for the advice.

       
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From emberisolte at mac.com  Tue Jan 22 00:16:56 2008
From: emberisolte at mac.com (Ember Isolte)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:16:56 -0800
Subject: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases
In-Reply-To: <945737.66812.qm@web52509.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <945737.66812.qm@web52509.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <79C78ECC-B2D7-4A1E-BDD1-25DE72CC5691@mac.com>

I've had fur with creases like that. I made some long sleeved hand  
paws and over time and use (maybe a good 20 times worn and a few  
washes), the creases came out. I've never tried it, but I heard that a  
low temperature steamer can get those out right quick. I'm too scared  
to try it because of the heat part. My sister just got a <a href="https://www.buytobi.com/?&page=order_form&src=affiliate&aid=14435&subid=Main 
">Tobi</a> so I might just test it out on some creased scrap fur. I'll  
let you know how it turns out.

-Ember Isolte

On Jan 21, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Jason Taipale wrote:

> Hello,
> I recently purchased some synthetic fur from the local fabric shop,  
> and when I got it home, I noticed that it had several big creases in  
> it.  (As an aside, I think its acrylic)  I would guess that they are  
> there from it being folded too long in the store.  My question is:  
> will the crease marks come out on their own, or is there anything I  
> can do to get them out?
> Thank you for the advice.
>
> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.  
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From furrycouple at hotmail.com  Tue Jan 22 08:37:42 2008
From: furrycouple at hotmail.com (Johara Saluki)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:37:42 -0200
Subject: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases
In-Reply-To: <79C78ECC-B2D7-4A1E-BDD1-25DE72CC5691@mac.com>
References: <945737.66812.qm@web52509.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<79C78ECC-B2D7-4A1E-BDD1-25DE72CC5691@mac.com>
Message-ID: <BAY109-W286F20761419817130908AA53E0@phx.gbl>


I too have had this problem. First I ironed the back...then with the iron on low, I'd quickly move the iron over the hairs (with grain) and brush right behind it (kinda like two hand brushing a horse)........I'd keep doing this until the crease disappeared. 


From: emberisolte at mac.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgDate: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:16:56 -0800Subject: Re: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases
I've had fur with creases like that. I made some long sleeved hand paws and over time and use (maybe a good 20 times worn and a few washes), the creases came out. I've never tried it, but I heard that a low temperature steamer can get those out right quick. I'm too scared to try it because of the heat part. My sister just got a <a href="https://www.buytobi.com/?&page=order_form&src=affiliate&aid=14435&subid=Main">Tobi</a> so I might just test it out on some creased scrap fur. I'll let you know how it turns out.

-Ember Isolte

On Jan 21, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Jason Taipale wrote:
Hello,I recently purchased some synthetic fur from the local fabric shop, and when I got it home, I noticed that it had several big creases in it.  (As an aside, I think its acrylic)  I would guess that they are there from it being folded too long in the store.  My question is: will the crease marks come out on their own, or is there anything I can do to get them out?Thank you for the advice.


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From karen.upfront at shaw.ca  Tue Jan 22 09:15:44 2008
From: karen.upfront at shaw.ca (karen dollmont)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 07:15:44 -0700
Subject: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-W286F20761419817130908AA53E0@phx.gbl>
References: <945737.66812.qm@web52509.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<79C78ECC-B2D7-4A1E-BDD1-25DE72CC5691@mac.com>
	<BAY109-W286F20761419817130908AA53E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <004301c85d01$47004690$d500d3b0$%upfront@shaw.ca>

Yes we use the iron and steam method here. As we buy a lot of furs different
quality and thickness we find ironing with a steam iron is the best and
works super. Just be careful to not get the fur itself hot. 

Karen

UP front mascots

 

From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
[mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Johara Saluki
Sent: January-22-08 6:38 AM
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Subject: Re: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases

 

I too have had this problem. First I ironed the back...then with the iron on
low, I'd quickly move the iron over the hairs (with grain) and brush right
behind it (kinda like two hand brushing a horse)........I'd keep doing this
until the crease disappeared. 

  _____  

From: emberisolte at mac.com
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:16:56 -0800
Subject: Re: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases

I've had fur with creases like that. I made some long sleeved hand paws and
over time and use (maybe a good 20 times worn and a few washes), the creases
came out. I've never tried it, but I heard that a low temperature steamer
can get those out right quick. I'm too scared to try it because of the heat
part. My sister just got a <a href="https://www.buytobi.com/?
<https://www.buytobi.com/?&page=order_form&src=affiliate&aid=14435&subid=Mai
n> &page=order_form&src=affiliate&aid=14435&subid=Main">Tobi</a> so I might
just test it out on some creased scrap fur. I'll let you know how it turns
out.

 

-Ember Isolte

 

On Jan 21, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Jason Taipale wrote:

 

Hello,
I recently purchased some synthetic fur from the local fabric shop, and when
I got it home, I noticed that it had several big creases in it.  (As an
aside, I think its acrylic)  I would guess that they are there from it being
folded too long in the store.  My question is: will the crease marks come
out on their own, or is there anything I can do to get them out?
Thank you for the advice.

 


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From daspony at hotmail.com  Tue Jan 22 15:59:12 2008
From: daspony at hotmail.com (Lisa Smith)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:59:12 -0500
Subject: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases
In-Reply-To: <004301c85d01$47004690$d500d3b0$%upfront@shaw.ca>
References: <945737.66812.qm@web52509.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<79C78ECC-B2D7-4A1E-BDD1-25DE72CC5691@mac.com>
	<BAY109-W286F20761419817130908AA53E0@phx.gbl> 
	<004301c85d01$47004690$d500d3b0$%upfront@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <BAY113-W4137F8252067E2B936BEB7B13E0@phx.gbl>


I usually run the shower in the bathroom on hot for a little bit, to build up some steam in there, having the fur draped over a towel hanger, or the curtain rod, and then let it sit for a while. After the fur is warm and damp, I bring it out where it's colder, brush it flat, and let it sit until dry. Works every time for me.

~Niiku






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Jan 21, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Jason Taipale wrote:





 

Hello,

I recently purchased some synthetic fur from the local fabric shop, and when I
got it home, I noticed that it had several big creases in it.  (As an
aside, I think its acrylic)  I would guess that they are there from it
being folded too long in the store.  My question is: will the crease marks
come out on their own, or is there anything I can do to get them out?

Thank you for the advice.



 









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From kody_wolf at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 22 16:14:00 2008
From: kody_wolf at yahoo.com (Kody Wolf)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:14:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 21, Issue 12
In-Reply-To: <mailman.53.1201015061.1570.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <76864.1951.qm@web62513.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Be very careful with the iron and steamer suggestions when getting faux fur creases and fold marks out. Test on a scrap piece of fur first. Electric Irons are all different - you might cause permanant iron marks if you heat up your faux fur too much. - Be very careful! :) GL!

Can just lay the cloth/fur out flat and put a few towels on top of it the press it flat, then comb it out after a few days. It'll help remove the creases but probably not completely - just wearing the fursuit will make creases come out over time.

GL :)

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   1. Re:  Post (Bob Bauhaus)
   2.  Synthetic Fur Creases (Jason Taipale)
   3. Re:  Synthetic Fur Creases (Ember Isolte)
   4. Re:  Synthetic Fur Creases (Johara Saluki)
   5. Re:  Synthetic Fur Creases (karen dollmont)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:37:06 -0800
From: Bob Bauhaus 
Subject: Re: FL: Post
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:58, Guitarra Flauta wrote:
> Which is a good way to make "eyes"?

It really depends on what style you want. I've seen some where the white 
part of the eye is plastic (for example: 
http://www.matrices.net/eyes.asp ) and you see only out the black 
pupil.

The other style is to have the entire eye be wire or plastic mesh and 
painted. It gives you more area for air and to see through, but you'll 
probably need a layer of fabric to avoid having your face visible 
through camera flashes. I'm going to be trying this approach, myself.

Lastly, I suppose you could use the lenses from sunglasses, as they're 
designed to be seen through, but this has the drawback of not letting 
any air through.

Hope this helps
--BobCoon


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:11:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Jason Taipale 
Subject: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Message-ID: <945737.66812.qm at web52509.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hello,
I recently purchased some synthetic fur from the local fabric shop, and when I got it home, I noticed that it had several big creases in it.  (As an aside, I think its acrylic)  I would guess that they are there from it being folded too long in the store.  My question is: will the crease marks come out on their own, or is there anything I can do to get them out?
Thank you for the advice.

       
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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:16:56 -0800
From: Ember Isolte 
Subject: Re: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
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I've had fur with creases like that. I made some long sleeved hand  
paws and over time and use (maybe a good 20 times worn and a few  
washes), the creases came out. I've never tried it, but I heard that a  
low temperature steamer can get those out right quick. I'm too scared  
to try it because of the heat part. My sister just got a Tobi so I might just test it out on some creased scrap fur. I'll  
let you know how it turns out.

-Ember Isolte

On Jan 21, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Jason Taipale wrote:

> Hello,
> I recently purchased some synthetic fur from the local fabric shop,  
> and when I got it home, I noticed that it had several big creases in  
> it.  (As an aside, I think its acrylic)  I would guess that they are  
> there from it being folded too long in the store.  My question is:  
> will the crease marks come out on their own, or is there anything I  
> can do to get them out?
> Thank you for the advice.
>
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:37:42 -0200
From: Johara Saluki 
Subject: Re: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases
To: 
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I too have had this problem. First I ironed the back...then with the iron on low, I'd quickly move the iron over the hairs (with grain) and brush right behind it (kinda like two hand brushing a horse)........I'd keep doing this until the crease disappeared. 


From: emberisolte at mac.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgDate: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:16:56 -0800Subject: Re: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases
I've had fur with creases like that. I made some long sleeved hand paws and over time and use (maybe a good 20 times worn and a few washes), the creases came out. I've never tried it, but I heard that a low temperature steamer can get those out right quick. I'm too scared to try it because of the heat part. My sister just got a Tobi so I might just test it out on some creased scrap fur. I'll let you know how it turns out.

-Ember Isolte

On Jan 21, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Jason Taipale wrote:
Hello,I recently purchased some synthetic fur from the local fabric shop, and when I got it home, I noticed that it had several big creases in it.  (As an aside, I think its acrylic)  I would guess that they are there from it being folded too long in the store.  My question is: will the crease marks come out on their own, or is there anything I can do to get them out?Thank you for the advice.


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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 07:15:44 -0700
From: karen dollmont 
Subject: Re: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
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Yes we use the iron and steam method here. As we buy a lot of furs different
quality and thickness we find ironing with a steam iron is the best and
works super. Just be careful to not get the fur itself hot. 

Karen

UP front mascots

 

From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
[mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Johara Saluki
Sent: January-22-08 6:38 AM
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Subject: Re: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases

 

I too have had this problem. First I ironed the back...then with the iron on
low, I'd quickly move the iron over the hairs (with grain) and brush right
behind it (kinda like two hand brushing a horse)........I'd keep doing this
until the crease disappeared. 

  _____  

From: emberisolte at mac.com
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:16:56 -0800
Subject: Re: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases

I've had fur with creases like that. I made some long sleeved hand paws and
over time and use (maybe a good 20 times worn and a few washes), the creases
came out. I've never tried it, but I heard that a low temperature steamer
can get those out right quick. I'm too scared to try it because of the heat
part. My sister just got a Tobi so I might
just test it out on some creased scrap fur. I'll let you know how it turns
out.

 

-Ember Isolte

 

On Jan 21, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Jason Taipale wrote:

 

Hello,
I recently purchased some synthetic fur from the local fabric shop, and when
I got it home, I noticed that it had several big creases in it.  (As an
aside, I think its acrylic)  I would guess that they are there from it being
folded too long in the store.  My question is: will the crease marks come
out on their own, or is there anything I can do to get them out?
Thank you for the advice.

 


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From wildfox34 at gmail.com  Tue Jan 22 17:00:00 2008
From: wildfox34 at gmail.com (Mike Johnson)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:00:00 -0500
Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 21, Issue 12
In-Reply-To: <76864.1951.qm@web62513.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.53.1201015061.1570.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<76864.1951.qm@web62513.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <68be40570801221400u52578cbcn909329bd7754b0f5@mail.gmail.com>

I can detest to that.  My fox suit, after Kodi finished it, had some
creases in his left leg somehow.  I didn't do anything but just
ignored it and it eventually dissapeared after several wears. :P

Wildfox

On 1/22/08, Kody Wolf <kody_wolf at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Be very careful with the iron and steamer suggestions when getting faux fur
> creases and fold marks out. Test on a scrap piece of fur first. Electric
> Irons are all different - you might cause permanant iron marks if you heat
> up your faux fur too much. - Be very careful! :) GL!
>
> Can just lay the cloth/fur out flat and put a few towels on top of it the
> press it flat, then comb it out after a few days. It'll help remove the
> creases but probably not completely - just wearing the fursuit will make
> creases come out over time.
>
> GL :)
>
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> 1. Re: Post (Bob Bauhaus)
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> 3. Re: Synthetic Fur Creases (Ember Isolte)
> 4. Re: Synthetic Fur Creases (Johara Saluki)
> 5. Re: Synthetic Fur Creases (karen dollmont)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:37:06 -0800
> From: Bob Bauhaus
> Subject: Re: FL: Post
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
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>
> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:58, Guitarra Flauta wrote:
> > Which is a good way to make "eyes"?
>
> It really depends on what style you want. I've seen some where the white
> part of the eye is plastic (for example:
> http://www.matrices.net/eyes.asp ) and you see only out the
> black
> pupil.
>
> The other style is to have the entire eye be wire or plastic mesh and
> painted. It gives you more area for air and to see through, but you'll
> probably need a layer of fabric to avoid having your face visible
> through camera flashes. I'm going to be trying this approach, myself.
>
> Lastly, I suppose you could use the lenses from sunglasses, as they're
> designed to be seen through, but this has the drawback of not letting
> any air through.
>
> Hope this helps
> --BobCoon
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:11:46 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jason Taipale
> Subject: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Message-ID: <945737.66812.qm at web52509.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hello,
> I recently purchased some synthetic fur from the local fabric shop, and when
> I got it home, I noticed that it had several big creases in it. (As an
> aside, I think its acrylic) I would guess that they are there from it being
> folded too long in the store. My question is: will the crease marks come out
> on their own, or is there anything I can do to get them out?
> Thank you for the advice.
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:16:56 -0800
> From: Ember Isolte
> Subject: Re: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Message-ID: <79C78ECC-B2D7-4A1E-BDD1-25DE72CC5691 at mac.com>
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> I've had fur with creases like that. I made some long sleeved hand
> paws and over time and use (maybe a good 20 times worn and a few
> washes), the creases came out. I've never tried it, but I heard that a
> low temperature steamer can get those out right quick. I'm too scared
> to try it because of the heat part. My sister just got a Tobi so I might
> just test it out on some creased scrap fur. I'll
> let you know how it turns out.
>
> -Ember Isolte
>
> On Jan 21, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Jason Taipale wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I recently purchased some synthetic fur from the local fabric shop,
> > and when I got it home, I noticed that it had several big creases in
> > it. (As an aside, I think its acrylic) I would guess that they are
> > there from it being folded too long in the store. My question is:
> > will the crease marks come out on their own, or is there anything I
> > can do to get them out?
> > Thank you for the advice.
> >
> > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
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> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:37:42 -0200
> From: Johara Saluki
> Subject: Re: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases
> To:
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> I too have had this problem. First I ironed the back...then with the iron on
> low, I'd quickly move the iron over the hairs (with grain) and brush right
> behind it (kinda like two hand brushing a horse)........I'd keep doing this
> until the crease disappeared.
>
>
> From: emberisolte at mac.comTo:
> fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgDate: Mon, 21 Jan 2008
> 21:16:56 -0800Subject: Re: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases
> I've had fur with creases like that. I made some long sleeved hand paws and
> over time and use (maybe a good 20 times worn and a few washes), the creases
> came out. I've never tried it, but I heard that a low temperature steamer
> can get those out right quick. I'm too scared to try it because of the heat
> part. My sister just got a Tobi so I might just test it out on some creased
> scrap fur. I'll let you know how it turns out.
>
> -Ember Isolte
>
> On Jan 21, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Jason Taipale wrote:
> Hello,I recently purchased some synthetic fur from the local fabric shop,
> and when I got it home, I noticed that it had several big creases in it. (As
> an aside, I think its acrylic) I would guess that they are there from it
> being folded too long in the store. My question is: will the crease marks
> come out on their own, or is there anything I can do to get them out?Thank
> you for the advice.
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 07:15:44 -0700
> From: karen dollmont
> Subject: Re: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Message-ID:
> <004301c85d01$47004690$d500d3b0$%upfront at shaw.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Yes we use the iron and steam method here. As we buy a lot of furs different
> quality and thickness we find ironing with a steam iron is the best and
> works super. Just be careful to not get the fur itself hot.
>
> Karen
>
> UP front mascots
>
>
>
> From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
> [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf
> Of Johara Saluki
> Sent: January-22-08 6:38 AM
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases
>
>
>
> I too have had this problem. First I ironed the back...then with the iron on
> low, I'd quickly move the iron over the hairs (with grain) and brush right
> behind it (kinda like two hand brushing a horse)........I'd keep doing this
> until the crease disappeared.
>
> _____
>
> From: emberisolte at mac.com
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:16:56 -0800
> Subject: Re: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases
>
> I've had fur with creases like that. I made some long sleeved hand paws and
> over time and use (maybe a good 20 times worn and a few washes), the creases
> came out. I've never tried it, but I heard that a low temperature steamer
> can get those out right quick. I'm too scared to try it because of the heat
> part. My sister just got a Tobi so I might
> just test it out on some creased scrap fur. I'll let you know how it turns
> out.
>
>
>
> -Ember Isolte
>
>
>
> On Jan 21, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Jason Taipale wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello,
> I recently purchased some synthetic fur from the local fabric shop, and when
> I got it home, I noticed that it had several big creases in it. (As an
> aside, I think its acrylic) I would guess that they are there from it being
> folded too long in the store. My question is: will the crease marks come
> out on their own, or is there anything I can do to get them out?
> Thank you for the advice.
>
>
>
>
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>
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From rsg0910 at iglou.com  Tue Jan 22 20:49:30 2008
From: rsg0910 at iglou.com (Robert Goodwin)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:49:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: FL: Synthetic Fur Creases
In-Reply-To: <no.id> from "Lisa Smith" at Jan 22, 2008 03:59:12 PM
Message-ID: <E1JHUk7-0005I9-2w@iglou.com>

> I usually run the shower in the bathroom on hot for a little bit, to 
> build up some steam in there, having the fur draped over a towel hanger, 
> or the curtain rod, and then let it sit for a while. After the fur is 
> warm and damp, I bring it out where it's colder, brush it flat, and let 
> it sit until dry. Works every time for me.

Sometimes what I've done is get a castoff fabric roll tube/flat and roll 
it on there. Either that or if needed, hang it from the shower curtain 
rod or other sturdy long rod. This last one works especially well when I 
use crepe hair and I have to get it straightened out by hanging from the 
rod and weighting it.

If you got the space, take a door and put it on something like sawhorses 
and just drape it over the door. Your big dinner table can work also.

-boogi-

(getting piled under books for classes)

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From camerapup at charter.net  Wed Jan 23 19:42:45 2008
From: camerapup at charter.net (Camerapup)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:42:45 -0800
Subject: FL: mobile pup rolling out
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whelp time to pack up my computer and head out to FC see ya all in 24 hours 
;)

Camerapup going Mobile


From mrbunny at mr-bunny.com  Sat Jan 26 01:51:15 2008
From: mrbunny at mr-bunny.com (Jessica Bunny Thomas)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:51:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: AZ furries who have made their own head?
Message-ID: <670648.45370.qm@web56609.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

are there any Arizona furries on ye old list here that have made their own head?
Im going to study the different wikifur methods
but I learn fast when directly taught.

thanks

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From pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 26 11:48:55 2008
From: pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com (Kit Kat)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:48:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: AZ furries who have made their own head?
In-Reply-To: <670648.45370.qm@web56609.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <440825.52162.qm@web53810.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

*pops head out of bush* Mew? Hello..I am an Arizona
fur and I have made my own head and currently working
on another head at the moment.. If you wish to learn
some methods I can lend a paw :3 I have also been
attending the head construction panels at FC so I will
have some new tricks up my sleave when I return :3 I
will also be starting construction on my own suit so
maybe we can experiment on that one... You can talk
with me on either Aim (SN: SadaNinjaKitty) or Yahoo
(SN SadaAoko ) 


--- Jessica Bunny Thomas <mrbunny at mr-bunny.com> wrote:

> are there any Arizona furries on ye old list here
> that have made their own head?
> Im going to study the different wikifur methods
> but I learn fast when directly taught.
> 
> thanks
> 
> Amorpheous>
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From mydesign at ripnet.com  Sat Jan 26 13:15:16 2008
From: mydesign at ripnet.com (J&B)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:15:16 -0500
Subject: FL: Hi,
Message-ID: <479B78B4.2060306@ripnet.com>

I get your e-mail all the time. I am not a fur suit wearer (don't check 
the spelling).
I make them. Some day I hope to have time to make my own. I would love to go
to one of the conventions. I have been making a lot of mascots for schools.
I am trying to find tiger fur. The school gave me a very nice tiger head 
(half a head
that hangs on the wall). I am trying to match the fur. Any I have found 
is very orange.
The head they gave me is more on the gold shade. Can anyone direct me to 
a place
I might find a match, or does anyone have some.
Thanks so much for any help you can give.
Jeannie


From monkaya_blue_wolf at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 26 13:46:39 2008
From: monkaya_blue_wolf at yahoo.com (Monkaya)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 10:46:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: OT looking for furs around the USA
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0801111603u437288eelfe1b7d91357d1676@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <746031.43406.qm@web55909.mail.re3.yahoo.com>


	-- DONKEY:  .... like to meet up with furs all over
the country
	donkeyears at gmail.com

	 |\,/|
	< * * > 
	  \_/
	   -	Hel-gro, Donkey!
	When in northern Utah, look up members of

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Utah_Furry_Forum

	Some of our members:
	- talk of driving big trucks (Optimus Prime is my
favorite 'Transformer')
	- strive to attend one or more conventions,
	- enjoy fur meets with snacks
	....

	Near my house in Sandy
	(south part of Salt Lake County:
	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	- A place to park thy rig a quarter mile down road
accross TRAX tracks from highschool,
	- 'Sap Brothers Truck Stop' @ 1300 South, I-215
(West)
	- Ski restorts,
	- indoor rockclimbing centers
	- hiking trails,
	
http://www.utah.com
	Utah's official tourism and business oportunity site,
can do a whole lot more justice on offerings here.  -
except civil engineering wonders.
   	____
	
	@ my house:
	^^^^^^^^^^^
	- Sorry, NO vacancy here.
	- 'Centaur Karknak' fursuit underconstruction.
	- model railroad scene,

	 |\,/|
	< * * > with care
	  \_/
	   -	Monkaya



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From foxglovefennec at gmail.com  Sat Jan 26 13:50:44 2008
From: foxglovefennec at gmail.com (Foxglove Fur)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:50:44 -0500
Subject: FL: OT looking for furs around the USA
In-Reply-To: <746031.43406.qm@web55909.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <d23d76ca0801111603u437288eelfe1b7d91357d1676@mail.gmail.com>
	<746031.43406.qm@web55909.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3bcb12380801261050q2e8ac4bfm37e5d66f0dc76b49@mail.gmail.com>

dont forget the Carolina Furs too!!!

Foxglove

On Jan 26, 2008 1:46 PM, Monkaya <monkaya_blue_wolf at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>        -- DONKEY:  .... like to meet up with furs all over
> the country
>        donkeyears at gmail.com
>
>         |\,/|
>        < * * >
>          \_/
>           -    Hel-gro, Donkey!
>        When in northern Utah, look up members of
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Utah_Furry_Forum
>
>        Some of our members:
>        - talk of driving big trucks (Optimus Prime is my
> favorite 'Transformer')
>        - strive to attend one or more conventions,
>        - enjoy fur meets with snacks
>        ....
>
>        Near my house in Sandy
>        (south part of Salt Lake County:
>        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>        - A place to park thy rig a quarter mile down road
> accross TRAX tracks from highschool,
>        - 'Sap Brothers Truck Stop' @ 1300 South, I-215
> (West)
>        - Ski restorts,
>        - indoor rockclimbing centers
>        - hiking trails,
>
> http://www.utah.com
>        Utah's official tourism and business oportunity site,
> can do a whole lot more justice on offerings here.  -
> except civil engineering wonders.
>        ____
>
>        @ my house:
>        ^^^^^^^^^^^
>        - Sorry, NO vacancy here.
>        - 'Centaur Karknak' fursuit underconstruction.
>        - model railroad scene,
>
>         |\,/|
>        < * * > with care
>          \_/
>           -    Monkaya
>
>
>
>
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From chameleon264 at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 26 13:53:06 2008
From: chameleon264 at yahoo.com (Black Foot)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 10:53:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: OT looking for furs around the USA
Message-ID: <683248.98552.qm@web56401.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

don't forget Pennsylvania/Ohio Furs
 
May The Paws Be With You
Black Foot.



----- Original Message ----
From: Foxglove Fur <foxglovefennec at gmail.com>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 1:50:44 PM
Subject: Re: FL: OT looking for furs around the USA

dont forget the Carolina Furs too!!!

Foxglove


On Jan 26, 2008 1:46 PM, Monkaya <monkaya_blue_wolf at yahoo.com> wrote:


       -- DONKEY:  .... like to meet up with furs all over
the country
       donkeyears at gmail.com

        |\,/|
       < * * >
         \_/
          -    Hel-gro, Donkey!
       When in northern Utah, look up members of

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Utah_Furry_Forum

       Some of our members:
       - talk of driving big trucks (Optimus Prime is my
favorite 'Transformer')
       - strive to attend one or more conventions,
       - enjoy fur meets with snacks
       ....

       Near my house in Sandy
       (south part of Salt Lake County:
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
       - A place to park thy rig a quarter mile down road
accross TRAX tracks from highschool,
       - 'Sap Brothers Truck Stop' @ 1300 South, I-215
(West)
       - Ski restorts,
       - indoor rockclimbing centers
       - hiking trails,

http://www.utah.com
       Utah's official tourism and business oportunity site,
can do a whole lot more justice on offerings here.  -
except civil engineering wonders.
       ____

       @ my house:
       ^^^^^^^^^^^
       - Sorry, NO vacancy here.
       - 'Centaur Karknak' fursuit underconstruction.
       - model railroad scene,

        |\,/|
       < * * > with care
         \_/
          -    Monkaya




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From ww2p51d at hotmail.com  Sun Jan 27 02:24:53 2008
From: ww2p51d at hotmail.com (Messerschmitt .)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 07:24:53 +0000
Subject: FL: AZ furries who have made their own head?
In-Reply-To: <670648.45370.qm@web56609.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <670648.45370.qm@web56609.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY114-W2291A96B6006A22EE72F08ED3B0@phx.gbl>




I'm a Zonie fur too XD
I've made a couple heads for myself and my sister (and her friend...) but I'm still no expert.  I'd be glad to lend a hand if you need it as well.
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From zoharskarth at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 27 17:29:44 2008
From: zoharskarth at yahoo.com (jenna kiyona)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 14:29:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: OT looking for furs around the USA
In-Reply-To: <3bcb12380801261050q2e8ac4bfm37e5d66f0dc76b49@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <897821.27322.qm@web63107.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Iowa has the  world's largest truckstop on I-80! And we've got a lot more than corn!! People think we're hillbillies and farmers,but Iowa is sooooo much more than that. Especially Iowa City. That is the oddest, funnest, craziest college town I've ever seen. 
   
  ZoharSkarth
   
  
Foxglove Fur <foxglovefennec at gmail.com> wrote:
  dont forget the Carolina Furs too!!!

Foxglove

  On Jan 26, 2008 1:46 PM, Monkaya <monkaya_blue_wolf at yahoo.com> wrote:
  
       -- DONKEY:  .... like to meet up with furs all over
the country
       donkeyears at gmail.com

        |\,/|
       < * * >
         \_/
          -    Hel-gro, Donkey!
       When in northern Utah, look up members of

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Utah_Furry_Forum

       Some of our members:
       - talk of driving big trucks (Optimus Prime is my
favorite 'Transformer')
       - strive to attend one or more conventions,
       - enjoy fur meets with snacks
       ....

       Near my house in Sandy
       (south part of Salt Lake County:
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
       - A place to park thy rig a quarter mile down road
accross TRAX tracks from highschool,
       - 'Sap Brothers Truck Stop' @ 1300 South, I-215
(West)
       - Ski restorts,
       - indoor rockclimbing centers
       - hiking trails,

http://www.utah.com
       Utah's official tourism and business oportunity site,
can do a whole lot more justice on offerings here.  -
except civil engineering wonders.
       ____

       @ my house:
       ^^^^^^^^^^^
       - Sorry, NO vacancy here.
       - 'Centaur Karknak' fursuit underconstruction.
       - model railroad scene,

        |\,/|
       < * * > with care
         \_/
          -    Monkaya
  


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From zoharskarth at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 27 17:29:58 2008
From: zoharskarth at yahoo.com (jenna kiyona)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 14:29:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: OT looking for furs around the USA
In-Reply-To: <3bcb12380801261050q2e8ac4bfm37e5d66f0dc76b49@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <495619.48799.qm@web63106.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Iowa has the  world's largest truckstop on I-80! And we've got a lot more than corn!! People think we're hillbillies and farmers,but Iowa is sooooo much more than that. Especially Iowa City. That is the oddest, funnest, craziest college town I've ever seen. 
   
  ZoharSkarth
   
  
Foxglove Fur <foxglovefennec at gmail.com> wrote:
  dont forget the Carolina Furs too!!!

Foxglove

  On Jan 26, 2008 1:46 PM, Monkaya <monkaya_blue_wolf at yahoo.com> wrote:
  
       -- DONKEY:  .... like to meet up with furs all over
the country
       donkeyears at gmail.com

        |\,/|
       < * * >
         \_/
          -    Hel-gro, Donkey!
       When in northern Utah, look up members of

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Utah_Furry_Forum

       Some of our members:
       - talk of driving big trucks (Optimus Prime is my
favorite 'Transformer')
       - strive to attend one or more conventions,
       - enjoy fur meets with snacks
       ....

       Near my house in Sandy
       (south part of Salt Lake County:
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
       - A place to park thy rig a quarter mile down road
accross TRAX tracks from highschool,
       - 'Sap Brothers Truck Stop' @ 1300 South, I-215
(West)
       - Ski restorts,
       - indoor rockclimbing centers
       - hiking trails,

http://www.utah.com
       Utah's official tourism and business oportunity site,
can do a whole lot more justice on offerings here.  -
except civil engineering wonders.
       ____

       @ my house:
       ^^^^^^^^^^^
       - Sorry, NO vacancy here.
       - 'Centaur Karknak' fursuit underconstruction.
       - model railroad scene,

        |\,/|
       < * * > with care
         \_/
          -    Monkaya
  


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From tygrcwby at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 30 16:55:31 2008
From: tygrcwby at hotmail.com (Christopher "Tyger" Roth)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:55:31 -0600
Subject: FL: MFM 2008 Online Hotel Booking Now Available!
Message-ID: <BAY131-DAV1589E4BB3987901CC18925D8360@phx.gbl>

Yeah....we're gonna need you to come to Memphis Labor Day weekend.

You can now book your room for MFM online! Please use the link to confirm 
your room. Make sure you save your confirmation email in case you have to 
make any changes or cancellations.

Event website - http://events.ichotelsgroup.com/DPRD-79FJRE/MEMDR/website/

If clicking on the above link does not work,Please copy and paste the link 
into your browser's address window, or retype it there.

See y'all in Memphis!
Tyger


From bdbfox at outgun.com  Thu Feb  7 07:42:09 2008
From: bdbfox at outgun.com (Damian K)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 07:42:09 -0500
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
Message-ID: <20080207124209.7A42A7BCBD@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>

Does anyone know anything about this product?

http://www.airvital.ca/index2.html

-Damian



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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 10:33:27 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 07:33:27 -0800
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
In-Reply-To: <20080207124209.7A42A7BCBD@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20080207124209.7A42A7BCBD@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0802070733p643707f7u61ea14ea64278be1@mail.gmail.com>

Its just like all of the others from what I see. All I see is hype and
salesmanship.

Donkey

On Feb 7, 2008 4:42 AM, Damian K <bdbfox at outgun.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know anything about this product?
>
> http://www.airvital.ca/index2.html
>
> -Damian
>

From dave at konig.demon.co.uk  Thu Feb  7 10:32:59 2008
From: dave at konig.demon.co.uk (David Cooke)
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:32:59 +0000
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
In-Reply-To: <20080207124209.7A42A7BCBD@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20080207124209.7A42A7BCBD@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <47AB24AB.9000206@konig.demon.co.uk>

Damian K wrote:
> Does anyone know anything about this product?
> 
> http://www.airvital.ca/index2.html

 From the look of the picture, its an impeller rather than
a fan, which is probably a good thing.  Typically they move
less air, but at higher pressure, which means it could force
air around the inside of the suit even where there isn't much
room for airflow.

Of course there's nothing to stop you just buying your own
(though they are not nearly as common as fans) or salvaging
one from a dead graphics card perhaps.

	David Cooke.



From aidenislove at yahoo.com  Thu Feb  7 12:30:09 2008
From: aidenislove at yahoo.com (Aiden Raccoon)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:30:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
In-Reply-To: <20080207124209.7A42A7BCBD@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <90646.81191.qm@web33903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Or you could just suck it up and sweat like a real man.  LOL j/k

Damian K <bdbfox at outgun.com> wrote: Does anyone know anything about this product?

http://www.airvital.ca/index2.html

-Damian





       
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 12:48:25 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:48:25 -0800
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
In-Reply-To: <90646.81191.qm@web33903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20080207124209.7A42A7BCBD@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>
	<90646.81191.qm@web33903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0802070948s2f0ceca2ke5011a2dd2c0aeec@mail.gmail.com>

Thats a totally sexiest comment! There are those non male like people that
also fursuit.

Oh wait, the non male like people don't sweet they *in a girlishly voice*
they perspire.

Never mind that I said anything. *SUCK IT UP LIKE A REAL MAN!!!

*His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

Now I only have to worry if I will be allowed to live the next fur con that
I show up to.

On Feb 7, 2008 9:30 AM, Aiden Raccoon <aidenislove at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Or you could just suck it up and sweat like a real man.  LOL j/k
>
>
> Damian K <bdbfox at outgun.com> wrote:
>
>  Does anyone know anything about this product?
>
> http://www.airvital.ca/index2.html
>
> -Damian
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From karen.upfront at shaw.ca  Thu Feb  7 12:59:11 2008
From: karen.upfront at shaw.ca (Karen Dollmont)
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:59:11 -0700
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
In-Reply-To: <20080207124209.7A42A7BCBD@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20080207124209.7A42A7BCBD@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <004801c869b3$24c7de80$6e579b80$%upfront@shaw.ca>

I have contacted them for more information and to see if I can try one. As
we are in Canada it should be easy for us to have one and give it a try out.
I will keep you posted.
Karen 
Up Front Mascots




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Sent: February-07-08 5:42 AM
To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?

Does anyone know anything about this product?

http://www.airvital.ca/index2.html

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From mysticwolf325 at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 13:06:02 2008
From: mysticwolf325 at gmail.com (Kelila Wolf)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:06:02 -0600
Subject: FL: Can any one tell me where,
	I can find a wolf pattern and fur for a wolf suit?
Message-ID: <ef2c430e0802071006t35f8502bm9c8ce97c61fcf216@mail.gmail.com>

Hi every one, I hate to ask and I'm thinking about making my own fursuit and
was wondering if any one here can tell me where I could find a wolf pattern
and some good fur to make a fursuit? I am new to fursuit making, and this
will be my first go at it. I will appreciate any information you can give
me. Thank you.
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From antimon at earthlink.net  Thu Feb  7 13:08:24 2008
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:08:24 -0500
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
In-Reply-To: <004801c869b3$24c7de80$6e579b80$%upfront@shaw.ca>
References: <20080207124209.7A42A7BCBD@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>
	<004801c869b3$24c7de80$6e579b80$%upfront@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <F1C1C19A2D9745B7B1BF84FDC3C5850B@AntimonPC>

Well, the design does make soem asumptions about the costume design, that 
may work fien for the bigger "mascot style" costumes liek the relms heads 
and such, but the newer smaller, tighter fitting 'furry style" mascots, 
probably wouldn't receive as much benefit (or be as needed in the first 
place)  so it may work in certain situatiosn but nto for the majority fo the 
curent gen cotumes out there, anythign that has muzzle ventalation wouldn't 
require an "air exchanger"

also last tiem i checked, the airplane blowers were hardly "noiseless"


> From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
> [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Damian K
> Sent: February-07-08 5:42 AM
> To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org
> Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
>
> Does anyone know anything about this product?
>
> http://www.airvital.ca/index2.html
>
> -Damian


From donkeyears at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 13:48:36 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:48:36 -0800
Subject: FL: Can any one tell me where,
	I can find a wolf pattern and fur for a wolf suit?
In-Reply-To: <ef2c430e0802071006t35f8502bm9c8ce97c61fcf216@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ef2c430e0802071006t35f8502bm9c8ce97c61fcf216@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0802071048g4dbb61ddq7c8b6f13e8680f97@mail.gmail.com>

I would suggest looking at the FAQ part of fursuit.org web site. There is a
great amount of info there for making fursuits.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On Feb 7, 2008 10:06 AM, Kelila Wolf <mysticwolf325 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi every one, I hate to ask and I'm thinking about making my own fursuit
> and was wondering if any one here can tell me where I could find a wolf
> pattern and some good fur to make a fursuit? I am new to fursuit making, and
> this will be my first go at it. I will appreciate any information you can
> give me. Thank you.
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From bob at ginkosoft.com  Thu Feb  7 14:31:48 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:31:48 -0800
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0802070948s2f0ceca2ke5011a2dd2c0aeec@mail.gmail.com>
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What? Someone selling a fan? But those are for mascots! People with 
their fancy-pants professional foam carvers and fleece skins and 
custom-made baseball jerseys not bought at Big and Tall shops!

We answer to a higher calling! Where we make our own stuff, just like 
MacGuyver would! Well, except that we don't disarm bombs with paperclips 
and he never posed as a fox except for that one episode.

WE are artists, who draw our materials from crafts stores, Radio Shack, 
Kragens, and Home Depot! Dare to create! Buy a computer fan instead, and 
let it run at half speed on 6V, and you can do it for less than $20, 
much cheaper than that flash-laden site demands.

Sure, you can buy that fan, custom made for one brand of mascot costume 
where it can advertise 200% more oxygen and a minty flavor, but not I, 
good sir, not I!

Good day, and good night!

BobCoon

From fuzzyroo at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 15:06:17 2008
From: fuzzyroo at gmail.com (Lucus Rocket)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:06:17 -0600
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
In-Reply-To: <1202412710.344E44A7@ff9.dngr.org>
References: <20080207124209.7A42A7BCBD@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>
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ya know......if ya want that

maybe try just wearing a big ballon

On Feb 7, 2008 1:31 PM, Bob Bauhaus <bob at ginkosoft.com> wrote:

> What? Someone selling a fan? But those are for mascots! People with
> their fancy-pants professional foam carvers and fleece skins and
> custom-made baseball jerseys not bought at Big and Tall shops!
>
> We answer to a higher calling! Where we make our own stuff, just like
> MacGuyver would! Well, except that we don't disarm bombs with paperclips
> and he never posed as a fox except for that one episode.
>
> WE are artists, who draw our materials from crafts stores, Radio Shack,
> Kragens, and Home Depot! Dare to create! Buy a computer fan instead, and
> let it run at half speed on 6V, and you can do it for less than $20,
> much cheaper than that flash-laden site demands.
>
> Sure, you can buy that fan, custom made for one brand of mascot costume
> where it can advertise 200% more oxygen and a minty flavor, but not I,
> good sir, not I!
>
> Good day, and good night!
>
> BobCoon
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From bob at ginkosoft.com  Thu Feb  7 15:53:44 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:53:44 -0800
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
In-Reply-To: <186b03790802071206k5c792fd4l21019630ace56a4f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080207124209.7A42A7BCBD@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>
	<186b03790802071206k5c792fd4l21019630ace56a4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<1202417634.2E768B19@bf11.dngr.org>
	<1202417643.2966D21D@fd9.dngr.org>
Message-ID: <1202417663.144391A3@fc4.dngr.org>

> ya know......if ya want that
>
> maybe try just wearing a big balloon

Nah. They're bulky, only keep you cool for a short while, and make a 
huge farting noise as they blow air.

The obvious solution would be to hold conventions in wind tunnels. Then 
we could also test how well the bird costumes can fly.

Seriously, though, I am curious as to what Karen finds out about them, 
but with the big claims thrown about, I'm tempted to say the homemade 
fan will be a better bang for the buck.

--BobCoon

From sales at action-actors.com  Thu Feb  7 16:09:20 2008
From: sales at action-actors.com (sales)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:09:20 -0500
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
In-Reply-To: <1202412710.344E44A7@ff9.dngr.org>
References: <20080207124209.7A42A7BCBD@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com><d23d76ca0802070948s2f0ceca2ke5011a2dd2c0aeec@mail.gmail.com><1202408529.298CAA8A@bb12.dngr.org><1202412641.269D308F@fc7.dngr.org>
	<1202412710.344E44A7@ff9.dngr.org>
Message-ID: <000c01c869cd$b689de80$6601a8c0@VALUED30F75E57>

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHH That's the spirit. Good for you

-----Original Message-----
From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
[mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Bob Bauhaus
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:32 PM
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Subject: Re: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?

What? Someone selling a fan? But those are for mascots! People with 
their fancy-pants professional foam carvers and fleece skins and 
custom-made baseball jerseys not bought at Big and Tall shops!

We answer to a higher calling! Where we make our own stuff, just like 
MacGuyver would! Well, except that we don't disarm bombs with paperclips 
and he never posed as a fox except for that one episode.

WE are artists, who draw our materials from crafts stores, Radio Shack, 
Kragens, and Home Depot! Dare to create! Buy a computer fan instead, and 
let it run at half speed on 6V, and you can do it for less than $20, 
much cheaper than that flash-laden site demands.

Sure, you can buy that fan, custom made for one brand of mascot costume 
where it can advertise 200% more oxygen and a minty flavor, but not I, 
good sir, not I!

Good day, and good night!

BobCoon
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Thu Feb  7 16:40:53 2008
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:40:53 -0500
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
In-Reply-To: <000c01c869cd$b689de80$6601a8c0@VALUED30F75E57>
References: <20080207124209.7A42A7BCBD@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com><d23d76ca0802070948s2f0ceca2ke5011a2dd2c0aeec@mail.gmail.com><1202408529.298CAA8A@bb12.dngr.org><1202412641.269D308F@fc7.dngr.org>
	<1202412710.344E44A7@ff9.dngr.org>
	<000c01c869cd$b689de80$6601a8c0@VALUED30F75E57>
Message-ID: <CDC6EF00-69F7-438C-B6D5-71777FB389EE@flyingfox.biz>


 >>200% more oxygen and a minty flavor

 >>hold conventions in wind tunnels. Then we could also test how well  
the bird costumes can fly.

um I just laughed out loud and everyone in my office looked at me


Scape

Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
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From fuzzyroo at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 17:52:20 2008
From: fuzzyroo at gmail.com (Lucus Rocket)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:52:20 -0600
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
In-Reply-To: <CDC6EF00-69F7-438C-B6D5-71777FB389EE@flyingfox.biz>
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	<d23d76ca0802070948s2f0ceca2ke5011a2dd2c0aeec@mail.gmail.com>
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what about cooling tube jumpsuits with thoes lil water filled tubes for
"convection" that they use in da space suits?



On Feb 7, 2008 3:40 PM, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:

>
> >>200% more oxygen and a minty flavor
>
>  >>hold conventions in wind tunnels. Then we could also test how well the
> bird costumes can fly.
>
> um I just laughed out loud and everyone in my office looked at me
>
>
> Scape
>
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> www.flyingfox.biz
>
>
>
>
>
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 18:39:13 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:39:13 -0800
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
In-Reply-To: <186b03790802071452g17c97a26pd1526fb245584bdb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080207124209.7A42A7BCBD@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>
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Thats what I thought it was going to be before I saw the web site. When I
saw it was just a fan I blew it off.

Donkey

On Feb 7, 2008 2:52 PM, Lucus Rocket <fuzzyroo at gmail.com> wrote:

> what about cooling tube jumpsuits with thoes lil water filled tubes for
> "convection" that they use in da space suits?
>
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From tkcom.tk at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 19:44:01 2008
From: tkcom.tk at gmail.com (TK)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:44:01 -0800
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
In-Reply-To: <20080207124209.7A42A7BCBD@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20080207124209.7A42A7BCBD@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <72ec776c0802071644r1ae0e2act137b43e392ca920a@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.airvital.ca/eng/produit.html

Hmm... Don't you think wearing just a Speedo in suit is a bit... wrong?

TK / Rennie

On Feb 7, 2008 4:42 AM, Damian K <bdbfox at outgun.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know anything about this product?
>
> http://www.airvital.ca/index2.html
>
> -Damian
>
>
>
> =
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From rtrabbitny at aol.com  Thu Feb  7 19:44:15 2008
From: rtrabbitny at aol.com (rtrabbitny at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:44:15 -0500
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0802071539k32e0fe0ew6725ce0de09cf4da@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d23d76ca0802071539k32e0fe0ew6725ce0de09cf4da@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CA3802DD2347F6-BC0-195C@WEBMAIL-DC17.sysops.aol.com>

How we all so much take things for granted.....

http://rapidtrabbit.livejournal.com/340766.html

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From bob at ginkosoft.com  Thu Feb  7 21:52:08 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:52:08 -0800
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
In-Reply-To: <186b03790802071452g17c97a26pd1526fb245584bdb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080207124209.7A42A7BCBD@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>
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	<1202430325.1934CF1E@ea31.dngr.org>
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	<1202433801.28A70960@gb32.dngr.org>
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> what about cooling tube jumpsuits with thoes lil water filled tubes for 
> "convection" that they use in da space suits?

You know, I thought about that, and it could be doable, but you've got a 
few obstacles:

On earth and not in freefall, underwater, or on the moon, the equipment 
can get really heavy, especially with the pumps and batteries. It might 
keep you cool, but more fatiqued.

Without a space pack, you'll need some way to vent the heat. That 
actually might be neat with a semimechanical creature. But you might be 
better off just using direct ventilation, then.

However, if you do liquid cool your suit, you do get a few benefits, 
like overclocking your tail.

> Hmm... Don't you think wearing just a Speedo in suit is a bit... wrong?

Whew. Glad I'm not the only one spooked by that. And his expression. And 
what's that supposed to be? Part bear, part gerbil, part gremlin? A 
begerlin?

The dangers of too much oxygen.

--BobCoon

From fuzzyroo at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 23:30:36 2008
From: fuzzyroo at gmail.com (Lucus Rocket)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:30:36 -0600
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
In-Reply-To: <1202439129.F5249C0@ff6.dngr.org>
References: <20080207124209.7A42A7BCBD@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>
	<1202430325.1934CF1E@ea31.dngr.org> <1202433771.37C4C567@fb9.dngr.org>
	<1202433801.28A70960@gb32.dngr.org>
	<186b03790802071452g17c97a26pd1526fb245584bdb@mail.gmail.com>
	<1202439129.F5249C0@ff6.dngr.org>
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hmm shows how little i know tech specs that way :\

i thought it would work through some sorta natrual convection on a smaller
scale :\

yeah that was a HUGE suit O.o how dose the wideth fit through doors in that
diagram?

and i've worn boxers under suit before, but really it was just lounging
'round watching tv and some crud like that so it wasn't like i was paraiding
around going "and what they don't know is....."

On Feb 7, 2008 8:52 PM, Bob Bauhaus <bob at ginkosoft.com> wrote:

> > what about cooling tube jumpsuits with thoes lil water filled tubes for
> > "convection" that they use in da space suits?
>
> You know, I thought about that, and it could be doable, but you've got a
> few obstacles:
>
> On earth and not in freefall, underwater, or on the moon, the equipment
> can get really heavy, especially with the pumps and batteries. It might
> keep you cool, but more fatiqued.
>
> Without a space pack, you'll need some way to vent the heat. That
> actually might be neat with a semimechanical creature. But you might be
> better off just using direct ventilation, then.
>
> However, if you do liquid cool your suit, you do get a few benefits,
> like overclocking your tail.
>
> > Hmm... Don't you think wearing just a Speedo in suit is a bit... wrong?
>
> Whew. Glad I'm not the only one spooked by that. And his expression. And
> what's that supposed to be? Part bear, part gerbil, part gremlin? A
> begerlin?
>
> The dangers of too much oxygen.
>
> --BobCoon
>  _______________________________________________
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From antimon at earthlink.net  Thu Feb  7 23:54:33 2008
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:54:33 -0500
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
In-Reply-To: <72ec776c0802071644r1ae0e2act137b43e392ca920a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080207124209.7A42A7BCBD@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>
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Message-ID: <B906C3BA7F79498B8D175920BAFE82A3@AntimonPC>

You mena....you're not suposed to be naked under them?

Oh and I though it was  Pig

I've never had a suit with a fan, I dotn really see the point if the head is 
designed well, and in teh stlye I liek, over heating (atleast in the head) 
isn't an issue

then again fan or nto I'm not doign a 4 mile parade in the middle of July 
outsdie either, I dont have the Stamina for that


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "TK" <tkcom.tk at gmail.com>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?


> http://www.airvital.ca/eng/produit.html
>
> Hmm... Don't you think wearing just a Speedo in suit is a bit... wrong?
>
> TK / Rennie\bscription, visit: 
> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list 


From donkeyears at gmail.com  Fri Feb  8 00:19:54 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:19:54 -0800
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
In-Reply-To: <1202439129.F5249C0@ff6.dngr.org>
References: <20080207124209.7A42A7BCBD@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>
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There are cooling suits that dont weight much at all. There are people that
have been born with out sweet glands. They have cooling suits for them so
they can survive. I have no idea what they cost but there out there.

Donkey

On Feb 7, 2008 6:52 PM, Bob Bauhaus <bob at ginkosoft.com> wrote:

> > what about cooling tube jumpsuits with thoes lil water filled tubes for
> > "convection" that they use in da space suits?
>
> You know, I thought about that, and it could be doable, but you've got a
> few obstacles:
>
> On earth and not in freefall, underwater, or on the moon, the equipment
> can get really heavy, especially with the pumps and batteries. It might
> keep you cool, but more fatiqued.
>
> Without a space pack, you'll need some way to vent the heat. That
> actually might be neat with a semimechanical creature. But you might be
> better off just using direct ventilation, then.
>
> However, if you do liquid cool your suit, you do get a few benefits,
> like overclocking your tail.
>
> > Hmm... Don't you think wearing just a Speedo in suit is a bit... wrong?
>
> Whew. Glad I'm not the only one spooked by that. And his expression. And
> what's that supposed to be? Part bear, part gerbil, part gremlin? A
> begerlin?
>
> The dangers of too much oxygen.
>
> --BobCoon
> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
> Fursuit Mail list.
> To edit your subscription, visit:
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Fri Feb  8 00:26:17 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:26:17 -0800
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
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I have never warn anything under my fursuits. I saw it as a way to keep
cooler. No insulation keeping the heat in or the airflow out.

Donkey

On Feb 7, 2008 8:30 PM, Lucus Rocket <fuzzyroo at gmail.com> wrote:

> hmm shows how little i know tech specs that way :\
>
> i thought it would work through some sorta natrual convection on a smaller
> scale :\
>
> yeah that was a HUGE suit O.o how dose the wideth fit through doors in
> that diagram?
>
> and i've worn boxers under suit before, but really it was just lounging
> 'round watching tv and some crud like that so it wasn't like i was paraiding
> around going "and what they don't know is....."
>
> On Feb 7, 2008 8:52 PM, Bob Bauhaus <bob at ginkosoft.com> wrote:
>
> > > what about cooling tube jumpsuits with thoes lil water filled tubes
> > for
> > > "convection" that they use in da space suits?
> >
> > You know, I thought about that, and it could be doable, but you've got a
> > few obstacles:
> >
> > On earth and not in freefall, underwater, or on the moon, the equipment
> > can get really heavy, especially with the pumps and batteries. It might
> > keep you cool, but more fatiqued.
> >
> > Without a space pack, you'll need some way to vent the heat. That
> > actually might be neat with a semimechanical creature. But you might be
> > better off just using direct ventilation, then.
> >
> > However, if you do liquid cool your suit, you do get a few benefits,
> > like overclocking your tail.
> >
> > > Hmm... Don't you think wearing just a Speedo in suit is a bit...
> > wrong?
> >
> > Whew. Glad I'm not the only one spooked by that. And his expression. And
> > what's that supposed to be? Part bear, part gerbil, part gremlin? A
> > begerlin?
> >
> > The dangers of too much oxygen.
> >
> > --BobCoon
> >  _______________________________________________
> > _______________________________________________
> > Fursuit Mail list.
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From synthwolf at gmail.com  Fri Feb  8 00:31:32 2008
From: synthwolf at gmail.com (Jon Lee)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:31:32 -0800
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0802072126q7ccbdcd4gf9da9e7478bae29a@mail.gmail.com>
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Counter-intuitive though it may seem at first, an undersuit of spandex works
well at cutting the heat.  The theory is that the closer-fitting the suit is
(and this follows for an undergarment), the less chance heat has to
convect.  I have never used a fan or any type of cooling system in my suits,
though mine are mostly closer-fitting.

--Synth

On Feb 7, 2008 9:26 PM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have never warn anything under my fursuits. I saw it as a way to keep
> cooler. No insulation keeping the heat in or the airflow out.
>
> Donkey
>
>
> On Feb 7, 2008 8:30 PM, Lucus Rocket <fuzzyroo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > hmm shows how little i know tech specs that way :\
> >
> > i thought it would work through some sorta natrual convection on a
> > smaller scale :\
> >
> > yeah that was a HUGE suit O.o how dose the wideth fit through doors in
> > that diagram?
> >
> > and i've worn boxers under suit before, but really it was just lounging
> > 'round watching tv and some crud like that so it wasn't like i was paraiding
> > around going "and what they don't know is....."
> >
> > On Feb 7, 2008 8:52 PM, Bob Bauhaus <bob at ginkosoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > what about cooling tube jumpsuits with thoes lil water filled tubes
> > > for
> > > > "convection" that they use in da space suits?
> > >
> > > You know, I thought about that, and it could be doable, but you've got
> > > a
> > > few obstacles:
> > >
> > > On earth and not in freefall, underwater, or on the moon, the
> > > equipment
> > > can get really heavy, especially with the pumps and batteries. It
> > > might
> > > keep you cool, but more fatiqued.
> > >
> > > Without a space pack, you'll need some way to vent the heat. That
> > > actually might be neat with a semimechanical creature. But you might
> > > be
> > > better off just using direct ventilation, then.
> > >
> > > However, if you do liquid cool your suit, you do get a few benefits,
> > > like overclocking your tail.
> > >
> > > > Hmm... Don't you think wearing just a Speedo in suit is a bit...
> > > wrong?
> > >
> > > Whew. Glad I'm not the only one spooked by that. And his expression.
> > > And
> > > what's that supposed to be? Part bear, part gerbil, part gremlin? A
> > > begerlin?
> > >
> > > The dangers of too much oxygen.
> > >
> > > --BobCoon
> > >  _______________________________________________
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Fursuit Mail list.
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From noble_a_wolf at hotmail.com  Fri Feb  8 00:33:38 2008
From: noble_a_wolf at hotmail.com (noble wolf)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 00:33:38 -0500
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0802072126q7ccbdcd4gf9da9e7478bae29a@mail.gmail.com>
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WHERE SPANDEX!!! it acts as a heat sink and equalily distrubts heat and sweat so u feel cooler and can last longer in suit with out dieing ^^ its also soft and form fittng ^_^


Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:26:17 -0800From: donkeyears at gmail.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?I have never warn anything under my fursuits. I saw it as a way to keep cooler. No insulation keeping the heat in or the airflow out.Donkey 
On Feb 7, 2008 8:30 PM, Lucus Rocket <fuzzyroo at gmail.com> wrote:

hmm shows how little i know tech specs that way :\
 
i thought it would work through some sorta natrual convection on a smaller scale :\
 
yeah that was a HUGE suit O.o how dose the wideth fit through doors in that diagram?
 
and i've worn boxers under suit before, but really it was just lounging 'round watching tv and some crud like that so it wasn't like i was paraiding around going "and what they don't know is....."



On Feb 7, 2008 8:52 PM, Bob Bauhaus <bob at ginkosoft.com> wrote:

> what about cooling tube jumpsuits with thoes lil water filled tubes for> "convection" that they use in da space suits?You know, I thought about that, and it could be doable, but you've got afew obstacles:On earth and not in freefall, underwater, or on the moon, the equipmentcan get really heavy, especially with the pumps and batteries. It mightkeep you cool, but more fatiqued.Without a space pack, you'll need some way to vent the heat. Thatactually might be neat with a semimechanical creature. But you might bebetter off just using direct ventilation, then.However, if you do liquid cool your suit, you do get a few benefits,like overclocking your tail.
> Hmm... Don't you think wearing just a Speedo in suit is a bit... wrong?Whew. Glad I'm not the only one spooked by that. And his expression. Andwhat's that supposed to be? Part bear, part gerbil, part gremlin? Abegerlin?The dangers of too much oxygen.--BobCoon


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From antimon at earthlink.net  Fri Feb  8 01:05:14 2008
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 01:05:14 -0500
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
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Note: Where Spandex UNDER the suit!!!! Not as the suit itself...and some people don't have forms worth fitting :0) grins

but yes I wear dive skisn udner my suits, thsi way they dotn get all nasty and stinky and they dont soak the people hugging me

and as noen fo my suits (yet) have foam, the fur breaths i get any air movement and i'm cooled greatly


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  Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 12:33 AM
  Subject: Re: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?



  WHERE SPANDEX!!! it acts as a heat sink and equalily distrubts heat and sweat so u feel cooler and can last longer in suit with out dieing ^^ its also soft and form fittng ^_^
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From aidenislove at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  8 03:42:25 2008
From: aidenislove at yahoo.com (Aiden Raccoon)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 00:42:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Airvital: heat solution or just an overhyped fan?
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0802070948s2f0ceca2ke5011a2dd2c0aeec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <161901.49732.qm@web33903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

HA, that's right, screw the girls!!  YEEEEEEHAAAWWWW


Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote: Thats a totally sexiest comment! There are those non male like people that also fursuit. 

Oh wait, the non male like people don't sweet they *in a girlishly voice* they perspire. 

Never mind that I said anything. SUCK IT UP LIKE A REAL MAN!!!
 
His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

Now I only have to worry if I will be allowed to live the next fur con that I show up to.

On Feb 7, 2008 9:30 AM, Aiden Raccoon <aidenislove at yahoo.com> wrote:
 > Or you could just suck it up and sweat like a real man.  LOL j/k
> 
> 
> Damian K <bdbfox at outgun.com> wrote:
> 
>  Does anyone know anything about this product?
 > 
> http://www.airvital.ca/index2.html
> 
> -Damian
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From petercat at furry.fan.org  Mon Feb 11 14:23:30 2008
From: petercat at furry.fan.org (PeterCat)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:23:30 -0500
Subject: FL: Mascot segment on Discovery Channel "How It's Made"
Message-ID: <a06240802c3d650949d41@[192.168.0.10]>

Today's listings for "How It's Made" on the Discovery channel include 
a segment on Mascots. No further details are given, but it might be 
of interest. The program is shown at 7:30 Eastern/US time.
-- 
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From Mezzobean at aol.com  Mon Feb 11 15:59:49 2008
From: Mezzobean at aol.com (Mezzobean at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:59:49 EST
Subject: FL: Mascot segment on Discovery Channel "How It's Made"
Message-ID: <ccd.2a7d592a.34e21145@aol.com>

I saw this once before  - it was interesting and would be  especially so for 
newbies . . . 
 
 
 
In a message dated 2/11/2008 2:24:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
petercat at furry.fan.org writes:

Today's  listings for "How It's Made" on the Discovery channel include 
a segment on  Mascots. No further details are given, but it might be 
of interest. The  program is shown at 7:30 Eastern/US  time.





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From rollie at wi.rr.com  Mon Feb 11 16:07:52 2008
From: rollie at wi.rr.com (Rollie)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:07:52 -0600
Subject: FL: Mascot segment on Discovery Channel "How It's Made"
In-Reply-To: <a06240802c3d650949d41@[192.168.0.10]>
References: <a06240802c3d650949d41@[192.168.0.10]>
Message-ID: <47B0B928.2080209@wi.rr.com>

PeterCat wrote:
> Today's listings for "How It's Made" on the Discovery channel include 
> a segment on Mascots. The program is shown at 7:30 Eastern/US time.
>   
That's an awesome episode. They take a look behind the scenes  at 1-800 
Mascots. Really worth a look.

Regards
Rollie

From bob at ginkosoft.com  Mon Feb 11 16:26:13 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:26:13 -0800
Subject: FL: Mascot segment on Discovery Channel "How It's Made"
In-Reply-To: <a06240802c3d650949d41@[192.168.0.10]>
References: <a06240802c3d650949d41@[192.168.0.10]>
Message-ID: <1202765175.185D4A2C@dj11.dngr.org>

> Today's listings for "How It's Made" on the Discovery channel include
> a segment on Mascots. No further details are given, but it might be
> of interest. The program is shown at 7:30 Eastern/US time.

I think I've seen it:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2AXvp9hlm04

--BobCoon

From fox at flyingfox.biz  Mon Feb 11 21:15:21 2008
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (John Fox Kinsman)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:15:21 -0500
Subject: FL: Mascot segment on Discovery Channel "How It's Made"
In-Reply-To: <a06240802c3d650949d41@[192.168.0.10]>
References: <a06240802c3d650949d41@[192.168.0.10]>
Message-ID: <4FE32A80-91F6-4AFC-97A1-034B858FE0C7@flyingfox.biz>

wow that was the perfect episode haha

I am a traditional archer, a coffee connoisseur, a mascot performer  
and go camping exclusively with a hammock ;)
weird

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
fox at flyingfox.biz




On Feb 11, 2008, at 2:23 PM, PeterCat wrote:

Today's listings for "How It's Made" on the Discovery channel include
a segment on Mascots. No further details are given, but it might be
of interest. The program is shown at 7:30 Eastern/US time.
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From rigeldc at verizon.net  Thu Feb 14 13:20:19 2008
From: rigeldc at verizon.net (Brian Harris)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:20:19 -0500
Subject: FL: Anthrocon 2008 Masquerade Information (2/08)
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20080214131834.01512ac8@incoming.verizon.net>

Anthrocon 2008 is coming, June 26-29! If you are a costumer or visual 
artist and would like to participate in the Masquerade, here is what you 
should do:

1. Visit Anthrocon 2008's homepage for convention details 
(http://www.anthrocon.org).
2. Review the latest draft of the Anthrocon 2008 Masquerade FAQ and rules 
on the Anthrocon webpage in the Events>Masquerade [FAQ]>Masquerade Rules 
section.
3. Contact me at masquerade-2008 at anthrocon.org to confirm your participation.

If you have any questions about the Anthrocon 2008 Masquerade, you can also 
send them to masquerade-2008 at anthrocon.org for a prompt reply.

Hope to hear from you!
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From rsg0910 at iglou.com  Sun Feb 17 18:45:57 2008
From: rsg0910 at iglou.com (Robert Goodwin)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:45:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: FL:  Fursuiting/Anime via... balloons?
Message-ID: <E1JQtCn-00030g-Bb@iglou.com>

There's some pretty creative balloon art suits/costumes here in this 
website. Combine a little fur with a bit of balloon art and makeup...

It's pretty easy to do this sort of thing, but damn... There's a good bit 
of creativity here, even though a lot of it is only temporary. Looks like 
someone's gotta watch out for the hot lights and sharp objects.

http://216.173.206.178/gallery/marie/default.htm

-boogi-
(taking a break from the books)

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From Mezzobean at aol.com  Sun Feb 17 19:05:52 2008
From: Mezzobean at aol.com (Mezzobean at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:05:52 EST
Subject: FL: Fursuiting/Anime via... balloons?
Message-ID: <d33.24357871.34ea25e0@aol.com>

These are awesome! Some remind me of the incredible toilet paper  wedding 
gowns I've seen. Thanks for sending the link. 
mezzobean
 
 
 
In a message dated 2/17/2008 6:47:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
rsg0910 at iglou.com writes:

There's  some pretty creative balloon art suits/costumes here in this 
website.  Combine a little fur with a bit of balloon art and makeup...

It's  pretty easy to do this sort of thing, but damn... There's a good bit 
of  creativity here, even though a lot of it is only temporary. Looks like  
someone's gotta watch out for the hot lights and sharp  objects.

http://216.173.206.178/gallery/marie/default.htm

-boogi-
(taking  a break from the books)





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From Mezzobean at aol.com  Sun Feb 17 19:08:15 2008
From: Mezzobean at aol.com (Mezzobean at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:08:15 EST
Subject: FL: Need pattern
Message-ID: <c54.28746637.34ea266f@aol.com>

Does anyone know where I can get a good pattern fairly quickly for a footed  
pj-style jumpsuit in an adult size. I could make one but am feeling lazy just  
now. <wink>
mezzobean
 



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From felinius.tigerclaw at gmail.com  Sun Feb 17 22:53:09 2008
From: felinius.tigerclaw at gmail.com (Felinius de Tigerclaw)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:53:09 -0500
Subject: FL: Need pattern
In-Reply-To: <c54.28746637.34ea266f@aol.com>
References: <c54.28746637.34ea266f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <47B90125.7080608@gmail.com>

http://www.kwiksew.com/Catalog/cat_detail.cfm?pid=2175

Mezzobean at aol.com wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can get a good pattern fairly quickly for a 
> footed pj-style jumpsuit in an adult size. I could make one but am 
> feeling lazy just now. <wink>
> mezzobean
>  
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL 
> Living. 
> <http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598>
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From aidenislove at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 18 03:35:38 2008
From: aidenislove at yahoo.com (Aiden Raccoon)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:35:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Need pattern
In-Reply-To: <47B90125.7080608@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <935770.36511.qm@web33908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Of course you can always go to http://www.footedpajamas.com/ if you're really feeling lazy.  My roommate Knux the Fox got one and its decent.

       
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From Mezzobean at aol.com  Mon Feb 18 07:39:30 2008
From: Mezzobean at aol.com (Mezzobean at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:39:30 EST
Subject: FL: Need pattern - TY
Message-ID: <c18.2bd8087e.34ead682@aol.com>

LOL. Thank you - I probably am feeling that lazy, but I still need to  make 
the suit myself as it has to be out of butterscotch colored fur and they  just 
don't have one like that! 
 
Thank you to felinius tigerclaw for the kwiksew pattern number  - I  think I 
can adapt that for my son much more easily than making my own so  I've just 
ordered one.
 
Thanks to both of you for responding -
Mezzobean
 
 
 
In a message dated 2/18/2008 3:36:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
aidenislove at yahoo.com writes:

Of  course you can always go to http://www.footedpajamas.com/ if you're 
really  feeling lazy.  My roommate Knux the Fox got one and its decent.





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From illpalazzosama at gmail.com  Mon Feb 18 09:51:57 2008
From: illpalazzosama at gmail.com (Jesse Triplett)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:51:57 -0500
Subject: FL: Fursuiting/Anime via... balloons?
In-Reply-To: <d33.24357871.34ea25e0@aol.com>
References: <d33.24357871.34ea25e0@aol.com>
Message-ID: <17c400530802180651s28d0d8f4q411b109fe88fd810@mail.gmail.com>

That's pretty cool
Was it a fashion show or what?

Jesse

On Feb 17, 2008 7:05 PM, <Mezzobean at aol.com> wrote:

>  These are awesome! Some remind me of the incredible toilet paper wedding
> gowns I've seen. Thanks for sending the link.
> mezzobean
>
>
>  In a message dated 2/17/2008 6:47:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> rsg0910 at iglou.com writes:
>
> There's some pretty creative balloon art suits/costumes here in this
> website. Combine a little fur with a bit of balloon art and makeup...
>
> It's pretty easy to do this sort of thing, but damn... There's a good bit
> of creativity here, even though a lot of it is only temporary. Looks like
> someone's gotta watch out for the hot lights and sharp objects.
>
> http://216.173.206.178/gallery/marie/default.htm
>
> -boogi-
> (taking a break from the books)
>
>
>
>
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From coyotesage67 at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 19 14:09:41 2008
From: coyotesage67 at yahoo.com (Coyote m)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:09:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Fursuiting/Anime via... balloons?
In-Reply-To: <E1JQtCn-00030g-Bb@iglou.com>
Message-ID: <569981.42806.qm@web58615.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

 Wild! That is incredible,Robert. How long did it take
for you to make one of those?

 Mitch


--- Robert Goodwin <rsg0910 at iglou.com> wrote:

> There's some pretty creative balloon art
> suits/costumes here in this 
> website. Combine a little fur with a bit of balloon
> art and makeup...
> 
> It's pretty easy to do this sort of thing, but
> damn... There's a good bit 
> of creativity here, even though a lot of it is only
> temporary. Looks like 
> someone's gotta watch out for the hot lights and
> sharp objects.
> 
> http://216.173.206.178/gallery/marie/default.htm
> 
> -boogi-
> (taking a break from the books)
> 
> -- 
> Homepage: http://www.furnation.com/boogi/
>   AIM: rg1004 / boogikat007   ICQ: 103051846
>        Y!M: boogikat         MSNM: boogikat007
> 
> Sez who that a deaf person can't have fun on the
> net? No ears required!
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From mike_moore17 at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 19 14:22:38 2008
From: mike_moore17 at yahoo.com (mike moore)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:22:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Fursuiting/Anime via... balloons?
In-Reply-To: <569981.42806.qm@web58615.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <359581.35454.qm@web52311.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

WoW that cool.

Coyote m <coyotesage67 at yahoo.com> wrote:  Wild! That is incredible,Robert. How long did it take
for you to make one of those?

Mitch


--- Robert Goodwin wrote:

> There's some pretty creative balloon art
> suits/costumes here in this 
> website. Combine a little fur with a bit of balloon
> art and makeup...
> 
> It's pretty easy to do this sort of thing, but
> damn... There's a good bit 
> of creativity here, even though a lot of it is only
> temporary. Looks like 
> someone's gotta watch out for the hot lights and
> sharp objects.
> 
> http://216.173.206.178/gallery/marie/default.htm
> 
> -boogi-
> (taking a break from the books)
> 
> -- 
> Homepage: http://www.furnation.com/boogi/
> AIM: rg1004 / boogikat007 ICQ: 103051846
> Y!M: boogikat MSNM: boogikat007
> 
> Sez who that a deaf person can't have fun on the
> net? No ears required!
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From rsg0910 at iglou.com  Tue Feb 19 15:02:11 2008
From: rsg0910 at iglou.com (Robert Goodwin)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:02:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: FL: Fursuiting/Anime via... balloons?
In-Reply-To: <569981.42806.qm@web58615.mail.re3.yahoo.com> from "Coyote m" at
	Feb 19, 2008 11:09:41 AM
Message-ID: <E1JRYfL-0003ng-9u@iglou.com>

>  Wild! That is incredible,Robert. How long did it take
> for you to make one of those?

Wild, all right! I had recently come across the site, and thought of the 
list. One pic shows three guys, one with feline makeup, the other with 
reptilian and the other with something else. The girl that did a balloon 
butterfly, now that was nice! Now, think of someone doing a dragon. This 
kind of thing will take a lot of planning on how you'll do the mix of fur, 
balloon art, maybe makeup and facial appliances, and other things.

ooh.. Think of the possibilities! It's research time!

I've never done balloon art, but it's easily picked up with practice.

I'd guess one of those balloon dresses took maybe a couple hours to do. 
Now the hats, maybe 5 minutes in the case of the three guys. You noticed 
many of them wore a unitard underneath, since the balloon latex may cause 
some itching on unprotected skin.

Back around Anthrocon 2000, I think, though I forget what year, we 
'invaded' a restaurant with 2-3 of us in makeup/suit. We had a balloon guy 
come in and make us interconnected balloon hats. Think about it... A line 
of at least 15-20 people walking in the mall where the restaurant was, all 
connected by balloon hats connected to each other. It was wild.

Unfortunately, I somehow misloaded the film in my manual camera, dangit! 
Otherwise I'd have had some great shots.

-boogi-
(recovering from brain burn from a math test)

-- 
Homepage: http://www.furnation.com/boogi/
  AIM: rg1004 / boogikat007   ICQ: 103051846
       Y!M: boogikat         MSNM: boogikat007

Sez who that a deaf person can't have fun on the net? No ears required!

From camstone at dirtdeninn.com  Tue Feb 19 18:21:18 2008
From: camstone at dirtdeninn.com (Camstone)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:21:18 -0500
Subject: FL: Fursuiting/Anime via... balloons?
In-Reply-To: <E1JQtCn-00030g-Bb@iglou.com>
References: <E1JQtCn-00030g-Bb@iglou.com>
Message-ID: <47BB646E.2060804@dirtdeninn.com>

Wow... those dresses were amazing.

From sales at action-actors.com  Tue Feb 19 18:27:41 2008
From: sales at action-actors.com (sales)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:27:41 -0500
Subject: FL: Fursuiting/Anime via... balloons?
In-Reply-To: <47BB646E.2060804@dirtdeninn.com>
References: <E1JQtCn-00030g-Bb@iglou.com> <47BB646E.2060804@dirtdeninn.com>
Message-ID: <002a01c8734f$06397aa0$6601a8c0@VALUED30F75E57>

How did I miss this wheres the link

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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:21 PM
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Subject: Re: FL: Fursuiting/Anime via... balloons?

Wow... those dresses were amazing.
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From Mezzobean at aol.com  Tue Feb 19 18:48:20 2008
From: Mezzobean at aol.com (Mezzobean at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:48:20 EST
Subject: FL: Fursuiting/Anime via... balloons?
Message-ID: <c47.2ce34b63.34ecc4c4@aol.com>

_http://216.173.206.178/gallery/marie/default.htm_ 
(http://216.173.206.178/gallery/marie/default.htm) 
 
 
In a message dated 2/19/2008 6:28:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
sales at action-actors.com writes:

How did  I miss this wheres the link





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From stego at cpl.net  Tue Feb 19 19:27:51 2008
From: stego at cpl.net (Stego)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:27:51 -0800
Subject: FL: Teeny tiny Motor...
In-Reply-To: <c54.28746637.34ea266f@aol.com>
References: <c54.28746637.34ea266f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <47BB7407.4020109@cpl.net>

Teeny tiny electric motor... Smaller than a penny.

  www.squigglemotors.com

Might these have any use in Fursuit Anamatronics?




From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Tue Feb 19 21:20:43 2008
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:20:43 -0500
Subject: FL: under suit wear
Message-ID: <577261b40802191820t58af36a4g9de67401f7191ffe@mail.gmail.com>

I am looking to wear something under my suit so that I can not sweat into
the fur of my suit.  Does anyfur have an idea of what I should use for the
material?
I've gotten suggestions for using something like a scuba suit, and someone
else suggested using something from the maker Under Armour.
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From superhedgie at googlemail.com  Tue Feb 19 21:23:16 2008
From: superhedgie at googlemail.com (Super BH)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:23:16 -0000
Subject: FL: under suit wear
References: <577261b40802191820t58af36a4g9de67401f7191ffe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003901c87367$8def38f0$4201a8c0@NoobSaibot>

I've only ever owned one suit, and from my experience, I would say, wear as little as possible. 

At most, I would say wear a pair of shorts, and a light t-shirt, so you cover the major sweat producing areas of the body: The crotch, the chest and the armpits. That way you will minimise the amount of sweat that seeps into the suit, but you won't overheat yourself!!

Hedgie
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:20 AM
  Subject: FL: under suit wear


  I am looking to wear something under my suit so that I can not sweat into the fur of my suit.  Does anyfur have an idea of what I should use for the material?


  I've gotten suggestions for using something like a scuba suit, and someone else suggested using something from the maker Under Armour.


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From Mezzobean at aol.com  Tue Feb 19 21:36:22 2008
From: Mezzobean at aol.com (Mezzobean at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:36:22 EST
Subject: FL: under suit wear
Message-ID: <cc4.2897aeaa.34ecec26@aol.com>

My son just wears a T-shirt and gym shorts
mezzobean 
 
 
In a message dated 2/19/2008 9:21:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
foxwolfac at gmail.com writes:

I am  looking to wear something under my suit so that I can not sweat into 
the fur  of my suit.  Does anyfur have an idea of what I should use for the  
material?  


I've gotten suggestions for using something like a scuba suit, and  someone 
else suggested using something from the maker Under  Armour.


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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Tue Feb 19 21:55:51 2008
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (John Fox Kinsman)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:55:51 -0500
Subject: FL: under suit wear
In-Reply-To: <577261b40802191820t58af36a4g9de67401f7191ffe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <577261b40802191820t58af36a4g9de67401f7191ffe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E10B954B-B2D3-48B8-8FB0-8F5254417F0F@flyingfox.biz>

hey foxwolf9!

i subscribe to the under armor style -got the long sleeve and shorts - 
down past the shorts i wear long cotton tube socks and some fabric  
soccer knee pads, simply to cover as much as possible.  I've had luck  
with the under armor as it keeps me cool enough that i don't sweat as  
much.  My neck, hands and calves sweat the most since the under armor  
does not cover there.  I have a feeling Scape is hotter than most due  
to being made almost exclusively of extra long pile fur.  Anyways,  
try a few different styles and find what works -but you'll most  
likely sweat some no matter what you wear lol

Scape

Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
fox at flyingfox.biz




On Feb 19, 2008, at 9:20 PM, Foxwolf 9-Tails wrote:

I am looking to wear something under my suit so that I can not sweat  
into the fur of my suit.  Does anyfur have an idea of what I should  
use for the material?

I've gotten suggestions for using something like a scuba suit, and  
someone else suggested using something from the maker Under Armour.
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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Tue Feb 19 22:00:00 2008
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:00:00 -0500
Subject: FL: under suit wear
In-Reply-To: <E10B954B-B2D3-48B8-8FB0-8F5254417F0F@flyingfox.biz>
References: <577261b40802191820t58af36a4g9de67401f7191ffe@mail.gmail.com>
	<E10B954B-B2D3-48B8-8FB0-8F5254417F0F@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <577261b40802191900w9114407r982d756c4efd27a@mail.gmail.com>

Oh, I'm prepared to sweat, but I want to be able to keep as much sweat out
of the fur and in the under clothing, what ever type it is.
-Foxwolf 9-Tails



On Feb 19, 2008 9:55 PM, John Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:

> hey foxwolf9!
> i subscribe to the under armor style -got the long sleeve and shorts -down
> past the shorts i wear long cotton tube socks and some fabric soccer knee
> pads, simply to cover as much as possible.  I've had luck with the under
> armor as it keeps me cool enough that i don't sweat as much.  My neck, hands
> and calves sweat the most since the under armor does not cover there.  I
> have a feeling Scape is hotter than most due to being made almost
> exclusively of extra long pile fur.  Anyways, try a few different styles and
> find what works -but you'll most likely sweat some no matter what you wear
> lol
>
> Scape
>
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> fox at flyingfox.biz
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 19, 2008, at 9:20 PM, Foxwolf 9-Tails wrote:
>
> I am looking to wear something under my suit so that I can not sweat into
> the fur of my suit.  Does anyfur have an idea of what I should use for the
> material?
> I've gotten suggestions for using something like a scuba suit, and someone
> else suggested using something from the maker Under Armour.
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From smrgol at optonline.net  Tue Feb 19 22:42:31 2008
From: smrgol at optonline.net (Smrgol -};>~)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:42:31 -0500
Subject: FL: under suit wear
Message-ID: <000201c87372$a0fe1050$650fa8c0@EEYORE>


On 2/19/2008 9:20:43 PM, Foxwolf 9-Tails (foxwolfac at gmail.com) wrote:
> I am looking to wear something under my suit so that I can not sweat into
> the fur of my suit.  Does anyfur have an idea of what I should use for the
> material?
>
> I've gotten suggestions for using something like a scuba suit, and someone 
> else suggested using something from the maker Under Armour.


I use a simple set of long sleeve, long leg cotton pajamas. 


From camstone at dirtdeninn.com  Tue Feb 19 22:58:39 2008
From: camstone at dirtdeninn.com (Camstone)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:58:39 -0500
Subject: FL: under suit wear
In-Reply-To: <E10B954B-B2D3-48B8-8FB0-8F5254417F0F@flyingfox.biz>
References: <577261b40802191820t58af36a4g9de67401f7191ffe@mail.gmail.com>
	<E10B954B-B2D3-48B8-8FB0-8F5254417F0F@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <47BBA56F.8050108@dirtdeninn.com>

I wear a set of surgical scrubs sometimes.
Easy to use. Packs in a small size. Lightweight.
Cheap to get. Washes out easily. Absorbs a lot of sweat.
Something I learned from other on the list. =)

- Camstone

From snglspdcat at gmail.com  Wed Feb 20 00:06:23 2008
From: snglspdcat at gmail.com (single speed cheeta)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:06:23 -0800
Subject: FL: Teeny tiny Motor...
In-Reply-To: <47BB7407.4020109@cpl.net>
References: <c54.28746637.34ea266f@aol.com> <47BB7407.4020109@cpl.net>
Message-ID: <c23fb4800802192106l3c8374ccmf28b6df90b35a868@mail.gmail.com>

Amazing. Beats me.

On Feb 19, 2008 4:27 PM, Stego <stego at cpl.net> wrote:

> Teeny tiny electric motor... Smaller than a penny.
>
>  www.squigglemotors.com
>
> Might these have any use in Fursuit Anamatronics?
>
>
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From fox at mchsi.com  Wed Feb 20 01:18:36 2008
From: fox at mchsi.com (fox)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:18:36 -0600
Subject: FL: Teeny tiny Motor... (Stego)
Message-ID: <000001c87388$6d7ffcf0$487ff6d0$@com>

They look cool, but a quick look at the data sheet shows extremely low
speed. The best I could find was 7mm/s (SQL1.8.6). That is way too slow for
animatronics. Considering 1cm travel for a blink, that would be a 3 second
blink (1cm down and back). 

 

Also, the larger SQ-100N series has an upper end of 40degC. That's 104degF.
And considering a starting point of 98.6, 104deg is very conceivable in a
suit.

 

Tho I am impressed with the .5micrometer accuracy on them. That's pretty
fine control, but I'll keep my servos for now.

 

 

 

Windancer/FrryFox

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From streakthetiger at gmail.com  Wed Feb 20 01:45:16 2008
From: streakthetiger at gmail.com (Streak)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:45:16 -0800
Subject: FL: under suit wear
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References: <577261b40802191820t58af36a4g9de67401f7191ffe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a584d75d0802192245r3f43881ch67cf6b89d1c75a66@mail.gmail.com>

I wear a Lycra Suit.
You can get it cheap from Scuba.com.
http://www.scuba.com/scuba-gear-44/Dive-Skins.html
Sadly they raised the price from $39.99, but still a good deal.
Covers your whol body, it's really thin so it doesn't make you any hotter
under your suit, and it dries incredibly fast.
Just wash it out in the sink, and let it hang dry. After a long night of
dancing and sweating, it'll be dry in the morning and smelling fresh :)

On 2/19/08, Foxwolf 9-Tails <foxwolfac at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am looking to wear something under my suit so that I can not sweat into
> the fur of my suit.  Does anyfur have an idea of what I should use for the
> material?
> I've gotten suggestions for using something like a scuba suit, and someone
> else suggested using something from the maker Under Armour.
>
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From illpalazzosama at gmail.com  Wed Feb 20 02:53:19 2008
From: illpalazzosama at gmail.com (Jesse Triplett)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:53:19 -0500
Subject: FL: under suit wear
In-Reply-To: <a584d75d0802192245r3f43881ch67cf6b89d1c75a66@mail.gmail.com>
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Ok first off, HI SCAPE!!!!  I forgot you were on this list :p

Second, I know its a bit off topic, But for cooling purposes, is it worth it
to worry about icepacks?  Please understand that the closest i've ever come
to suiting was being the easter bunny at an easter egg hunt(sad for me) and
that wasn't terribly hot. (although it certainly wasn't cold)

Jesse

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Streak <streakthetiger at gmail.com> wrote:

> I wear a Lycra Suit.
> You can get it cheap from Scuba.com.
> http://www.scuba.com/scuba-gear-44/Dive-Skins.html
> Sadly they raised the price from $39.99, but still a good deal.
> Covers your whol body, it's really thin so it doesn't make you any hotter
> under your suit, and it dries incredibly fast.
> Just wash it out in the sink, and let it hang dry. After a long night of
> dancing and sweating, it'll be dry in the morning and smelling fresh :)
>
> On 2/19/08, Foxwolf 9-Tails <foxwolfac at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I am looking to wear something under my suit so that I can not sweat
> > into the fur of my suit.  Does anyfur have an idea of what I should use for
> > the material?
> > I've gotten suggestions for using something like a scuba suit, and
> > someone else suggested using something from the maker Under Armour.
> >
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From illpalazzosama at gmail.com  Wed Feb 20 02:54:58 2008
From: illpalazzosama at gmail.com (Jesse Triplett)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:54:58 -0500
Subject: FL: Teeny tiny Motor... (Stego)
In-Reply-To: <000001c87388$6d7ffcf0$487ff6d0$@com>
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Wow impressive!  Good job on the math.  Do you think it would have enough
torque to work an animatronic tail?

Jesse



On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 1:18 AM, fox <fox at mchsi.com> wrote:

>  They look cool, but a quick look at the data sheet shows extremely low
> speed. The best I could find was 7mm/s (SQL1.8.6). That is way too slow
> for animatronics. Considering 1cm travel for a blink, that would be a 3
> second blink (1cm down and back).
>
>
>
> Also, the larger SQ-100N series has an upper end of 40degC. That's
> 104degF. And considering a starting point of 98.6, 104deg is very
> conceivable in a suit.
>
>
>
> Tho I am impressed with the .5micrometer accuracy on them. That's pretty
> fine control, but I'll keep my servos for now.
>
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From stego at cpl.net  Wed Feb 20 02:08:08 2008
From: stego at cpl.net (Stego S. Aurus)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:08:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Teeny tiny Motor... (Stego)
In-Reply-To: <000001c87388$6d7ffcf0$487ff6d0$@com>
References: <000001c87388$6d7ffcf0$487ff6d0$@com>
Message-ID: <55248.216.117.219.131.1203491288.squirrel@www.keyway.net>

Idea to throw out: How about an eyelid mechanism that uses both servos and
a solenoid? The servo for the slower eyelid motions, the solenoid for the
blink?   Rig it to where the servo would control the majority of the
motion, but then the solenoid can temporarily override the current
position and cause a blinking action that'll just return to the last
position the servo was at...

> They look cool, but a quick look at the data sheet shows extremely low
> speed. The best I could find was 7mm/s (SQL1.8.6). That is way too slow
> for
> animatronics. Considering 1cm travel for a blink, that would be a 3 second
> blink (1cm down and back).
>
>
>
> Also, the larger SQ-100N series has an upper end of 40degC. That's
> 104degF.
> And considering a starting point of 98.6, 104deg is very conceivable in a
> suit.
>
>
>
> Tho I am impressed with the .5micrometer accuracy on them. That's pretty
> fine control, but I'll keep my servos for now.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Windancer/FrryFox
>
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From subcultural_girl113 at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 20 03:20:15 2008
From: subcultural_girl113 at yahoo.com (jenny herret)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:20:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: under suit wear
In-Reply-To: <577261b40802191820t58af36a4g9de67401f7191ffe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <668021.10556.qm@web45310.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

if anything i agree with the person who suggested  under armor its breathable and will help aid in stopping sweat from coming in contact with your fur suit and also help so your skin aint bothered or chaffed by the suit aswell so best bet is find under armor *dicks sporting goods, sports authority etc* or something similar made of nylon hope this helps! *wags tail* ^^

Foxwolf 9-Tails <foxwolfac at gmail.com> wrote:   I am looking to wear something under my suit so that I can not sweat into the fur of my suit.  Does anyfur have an idea of what I should use for the material?   

  I've gotten suggestions for using something like a scuba suit, and someone else suggested using something from the maker Under Armour.
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From aidenislove at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 20 04:06:45 2008
From: aidenislove at yahoo.com (Aiden Raccoon)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:06:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: under suit wear
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Message-ID: <765922.15309.qm@web33905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I wear a tshirt, underwear with swimming trucks and socks.  That seems to be just fine for at least 4 hours of suit time.

Foxwolf 9-Tails <foxwolfac at gmail.com> wrote: I am looking to wear something under my suit so that I can not sweat into the fur of my suit.  Does anyfur have an idea of what I should use for the material?

I've gotten suggestions for using something like a scuba suit, and someone else suggested using something from the maker Under Armour.
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From uck at growf.com  Wed Feb 20 04:04:34 2008
From: uck at growf.com (uck at growf.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:04:34 -0800
Subject: FL: under suit wear
In-Reply-To: <668021.10556.qm@web45310.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <668021.10556.qm@web45310.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47BBED22.8080401@growf.com>

Just a little note on Under Armour (which is fantastic stuff)...  Make 
sure you buy the HeatGear line, rather than the ColdGear one.  One is 
made to keep you cool in hot weather, the other is made to keep you warm 
in cold weather.  Wearing the wrong one under a fursuit will bring a 
quick end to your fursuit outing.

-Uck!


jenny herret wrote:
> if anything i agree with the person who suggested  under armor its 
> breathable and will help aid in stopping sweat from coming in contact 
> with your fur suit and also help so your skin aint bothered or chaffed 
> by the suit aswell so best bet is find under armor *dicks sporting 
> goods, sports authority etc* or something similar made of nylon hope 
> this helps! *wags tail* ^^


From superjay at hawkcave.com  Wed Feb 20 04:29:47 2008
From: superjay at hawkcave.com (Super Jayhawk)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:29:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: under suit wear
In-Reply-To: <47BBED22.8080401@growf.com>
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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0802200116040.4178@bigjay.hawkcave.com>

The best stuff you can wear for under-fursuit wear is spandex.  It's not 
only the world's greatest fabric, it's the pinnacle of human innovation!
The great thing about spandex under your fursuit is that it distributes 
the moisture and wicks it away, without getting it into your fursuit. 
Spandex is much more easily washable than your fursuit!

My personal picks for undersuit spandex are Under Armor, Eastbay lycra

(http://www.eastbay.com/catalog/advancedSearch/?module=topNav&action=keywordSearch&search=k&keyword=Eastbay+Lycra 
) 
and Easton spandex (www.easton.com).

The best part about wearing spandex under your fursuit is-- if you have to 
save the world, you're already in your spandex superhero costume!

________________________________________________________________
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, uck at growf.com wrote:

> Just a little note on Under Armour (which is fantastic stuff)...  Make
> sure you buy the HeatGear line, rather than the ColdGear one.  One is
> made to keep you cool in hot weather, the other is made to keep you warm
> in cold weather.  Wearing the wrong one under a fursuit will bring a
> quick end to your fursuit outing.
>
> -Uck!
>
>
> jenny herret wrote:
>> if anything i agree with the person who suggested  under armor its
>> breathable and will help aid in stopping sweat from coming in contact
>> with your fur suit and also help so your skin aint bothered or chaffed
>> by the suit aswell so best bet is find under armor *dicks sporting
>> goods, sports authority etc* or something similar made of nylon hope
>> this helps! *wags tail* ^^
>
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From wildfox34 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 20 07:55:28 2008
From: wildfox34 at gmail.com (Mike Johnson)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:55:28 -0500
Subject: FL: under suit wear
In-Reply-To: <a584d75d0802192245r3f43881ch67cf6b89d1c75a66@mail.gmail.com>
References: <577261b40802191820t58af36a4g9de67401f7191ffe@mail.gmail.com>
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I'll add my thumbs up to wearing lycra dive skins under suit.  I've
been wearing them for about a couple of years now.  Before then, it
was a t-shirt and shorts.  But I would have to pack several shirts to
make it throughout the weekend.  A lycra dive skin, you only need one
or two to make it through the weekend.  Easy to pack, easy to wash and
dry, much cooler under suit.

Wildfox

On 2/20/08, Streak <streakthetiger at gmail.com> wrote:
> I wear a Lycra Suit.
> You can get it cheap from Scuba.com.
> http://www.scuba.com/scuba-gear-44/Dive-Skins.html
> Sadly they raised the price from $39.99, but still a good deal.
> Covers your whol body, it's really thin so it doesn't make you any hotter
> under your suit, and it dries incredibly fast.
> Just wash it out in the sink, and let it hang dry. After a long night of
> dancing and sweating, it'll be dry in the morning and smelling fresh :)
>
> On 2/19/08, Foxwolf 9-Tails <foxwolfac at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am looking to wear something under my suit so that I can not sweat into
> > the fur of my suit.  Does anyfur have an idea of what I should use for the
> > material?
> > I've gotten suggestions for using something like a scuba suit, and someone
> > else suggested using something from the maker Under Armour.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > _______________________________________________
> > Fursuit Mail list.
> > To edit your subscription, visit:
> > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
> >
> >
>

From bora_trunks at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 20 08:32:15 2008
From: bora_trunks at hotmail.com (boras Trunkss)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:32:15 +0000
Subject: FL: under suit wear
In-Reply-To: <68be40570802200455n25cd948aob29e0f716dafa3d7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <577261b40802191820t58af36a4g9de67401f7191ffe@mail.gmail.com>
	<a584d75d0802192245r3f43881ch67cf6b89d1c75a66@mail.gmail.com> 
	<68be40570802200455n25cd948aob29e0f716dafa3d7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU126-W10A6B86F974330B974EDB68B230@phx.gbl>


Hummmmmm ^^;;.... Zest Raccoon here (coon suiter)
 
*Long time reader first time poster*
 
I would not really suggest scuba suit as when I searched for clothes for under my suit I actually went to a very specialize scuba suit center in Ottawa (Canada capital).
 
And I told the situation and she told me I would boil to death O.o... 
 
As the suit my let the sweat out but what is never really told is most keep the heat IN! The Licra suit.
 
But what I use and never have any problem what so ever are the suits that the people that do professional cyclist use.
 
Its light, keep the sweat from touching the suit AND keep the heat OUT!
 
But that?s my opinion ^^;;...
 
*Best suggestions* Try many things and see what is best and more comfy for ya ;)
 
Zets
> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:55:28 -0500> From: wildfox34 at gmail.com> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> Subject: Re: FL: under suit wear> > I'll add my thumbs up to wearing lycra dive skins under suit. I've> been wearing them for about a couple of years now. Before then, it> was a t-shirt and shorts. But I would have to pack several shirts to> make it throughout the weekend. A lycra dive skin, you only need one> or two to make it through the weekend. Easy to pack, easy to wash and> dry, much cooler under suit.> > Wildfox> > On 2/20/08, Streak <streakthetiger at gmail.com> wrote:> > I wear a Lycra Suit.> > You can get it cheap from Scuba.com.> > http://www.scuba.com/scuba-gear-44/Dive-Skins.html> > Sadly they raised the price from $39.99, but still a good deal.> > Covers your whol body, it's really thin so it doesn't make you any hotter> > under your suit, and it dries incredibly fast.> > Just wash it out in the sink, and let it hang dry. After a long night of> > dancing and sweating, it'll be dry in the morning and smelling fresh :)> >> > On 2/19/08, Foxwolf 9-Tails <foxwolfac at gmail.com> wrote:> > >> > > I am looking to wear something under my suit so that I can not sweat into> > > the fur of my suit. Does anyfur have an idea of what I should use for the> > > material?> > > I've gotten suggestions for using something like a scuba suit, and someone> > > else suggested using something from the maker Under Armour.> > >> > > _______________________________________________> > > _______________________________________________> > > Fursuit Mail list.> > > To edit your subscription, visit:> > > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________> _______________________________________________> Fursuit Mail list.> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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From bora_trunks at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 20 08:41:34 2008
From: bora_trunks at hotmail.com (boras Trunkss)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:41:34 +0000
Subject: FL: under suit wear
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PS: Sorry for the terible whrithing X_x... (I am french so ^^;;)> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:55:28 -0500> From: wildfox34 at gmail.com> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> Subject: Re: FL: under suit wear> > I'll add my thumbs up to wearing lycra dive skins under suit. I've> been wearing them for about a couple of years now. Before then, it> was a t-shirt and shorts. But I would have to pack several shirts to> make it throughout the weekend. A lycra dive skin, you only need one> or two to make it through the weekend. Easy to pack, easy to wash and> dry, much cooler under suit.> > Wildfox> > On 2/20/08, Streak <streakthetiger at gmail.com> wrote:> > I wear a Lycra Suit.> > You can get it cheap from Scuba.com.> > http://www.scuba.com/scuba-gear-44/Dive-Skins.html> > Sadly they raised the price from $39.99, but still a good deal.> > Covers your whol body, it's really thin so it doesn't make you any hotter> > under your suit, and it dries incredibly fast.> > Just wash it out in the sink, and let it hang dry. After a long night of> > dancing and sweating, it'll be dry in the morning and smelling fresh :)> >> > On 2/19/08, Foxwolf 9-Tails <foxwolfac at gmail.com> wrote:> > >> > > I am looking to wear something under my suit so that I can not sweat into> > > the fur of my suit. Does anyfur have an idea of what I should use for the> > > material?> > > I've gotten suggestions for using something like a scuba suit, and someone> > > else suggested using something from the maker Under Armour.> > >> > > _______________________________________________> > > _______________________________________________> > > Fursuit Mail list.> > > To edit your subscription, visit:> > > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________> _______________________________________________> Fursuit Mail list.> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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From sardognsca at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 20 10:41:56 2008
From: sardognsca at yahoo.com (Sardog)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:41:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: under suit wear
In-Reply-To: <577261b40802191820t58af36a4g9de67401f7191ffe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <251181.85634.qm@web51612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hands down Underarmor Heat tight gear is the best
thing ever to wear under the suit... So much so that
our mascot team has been required to wear it under
their suits for a couple of years...

It's tight fitting, deals with the sweat, and, makes
wearing the suit very comfortable.  Plus, you don't
have to worry with the potential "wedgy" factor that
we found with boxer style pants.  Or, for that matter
the suit going up or down on you.

Downside, it's expensive, and, if you do an all day
appearance where you know you're going to be out of
the suit for some time, you're going to want a second
set as it doesn't always dry... And it's gross putting
on wet underarmor (that's from experience)

But, wouldn't trade it for anything in the world... I
now use it under my sporting gear (hockey, workout,
etc) as a base layer.


--- Foxwolf 9-Tails <foxwolfac at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am looking to wear something under my suit so that
> I can not sweat into
> the fur of my suit.  Does anyfur have an idea of
> what I should use for the
> material?
> I've gotten suggestions for using something like a
> scuba suit, and someone
> else suggested using something from the maker Under
> Armour.
> > _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
> Fursuit Mail list.
> To edit your subscription, visit:
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From sardognsca at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 20 10:43:17 2008
From: sardognsca at yahoo.com (Sardog)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:43:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: under suit wear
In-Reply-To: <577261b40802191820t58af36a4g9de67401f7191ffe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <796706.88354.qm@web51612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Oh, and, they also make a head cap that's ideal for
keeping longer hair out of your eyes during a set.

Our team have the option to use either a balaclava on
their heads, or, the UA head piece...

UA ROCKS!  Cotton is the enemy!

--- Foxwolf 9-Tails <foxwolfac at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am looking to wear something under my suit so that
> I can not sweat into
> the fur of my suit.  Does anyfur have an idea of
> what I should use for the
> material?
> I've gotten suggestions for using something like a
> scuba suit, and someone
> else suggested using something from the maker Under
> Armour.
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From antimon at earthlink.net  Wed Feb 20 11:32:31 2008
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:32:31 -0500
Subject: FL: under suit wear
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Message-ID: <8C4E9B2854DA433A958CDA07B06B3E7A@AntimonPC>

Lycra dive skins are very cool and do not trap hat, it's not a scuba suit it's a dive skin to wear UNDER the scuba suit ussually a lucra / nylon blend, in fact it assists in coolign whenever there is air flow.
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From antimon at earthlink.net  Wed Feb 20 11:56:54 2008
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:56:54 -0500
Subject: FL: under suit wear
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Ice packs are bad, first off they are too cold and can actually hurt your skin and be unhealthy, beyond that you're adding in a ton of weight, and once they stop providing cooling, all they do is make you hotter, and trap sweat.  It's also uncomfortable to be huged wearing ice packs, limits your mobility and what you can do in suit like lay down and get scritched, or do inflateable mazes, etc.  not worth it.  Plus it wont fit onder suits that are propelry fitted to you and.or look bulgy and weird


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jesse Triplett 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:53 AM
  Subject: Re: FL: under suit wear

  Second, I know its a bit off topic, But for cooling purposes, is it worth it to worry about icepacks?  Please understand that the closest i've ever come to suiting was being the easter bunny at an easter egg hunt(sad for me) and that wasn't terribly hot. (although it certainly wasn't cold)
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From roxikat at gmail.com  Wed Feb 20 12:11:22 2008
From: roxikat at gmail.com (John Barrett)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:11:22 -0500
Subject: FL: under suit wear
Message-ID: <48a09f210802200911o336ba004y58f91543e0b1f1eb@mail.gmail.com>

I suspect I'll wear two spandex unitards for my own spandex fursuit pretty
soon since I just replaced my old Hot Pink one.  I found NY Dancewear to
make a good product.  I wonder what other folks think of them.
And yes, I totally agree with Super Jayhawk about the awesome-osity of
spandex.

http://www.nydancewear.com/index.cfm?&npageid=14&nproductid=606&nmodmode19=show_detail&nstartcatid=76

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From minnieme4rl at aol.com  Wed Feb 20 12:31:31 2008
From: minnieme4rl at aol.com (Kristen Kim)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:31:31 -0800
Subject: FL: under suit wear
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That is why you need GlacierTek
(www.coolvest.com).  The freezing point is much higher, so it doesn't  
freeze your skin like ice.  Not only do I wear the cool vest, I also  
wear the packs on my forearms and shins, where I produce the most  
heat.  They last up to 2 hours, and solidify in 20 minutes in ice  
warer.  I've been using them for 5 years and will not suit without them.

Lycra/Spandex suits under my fursuit make me too hot, but I do wear a  
t-shirt made of similar material, designed to keep you cool, and bike  
shorts.  You need to experiment and find what works best for you.

True, they will not fit in a form-fitting suit.  But there are cooling  
neck collars.

Minnie

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 20, 2008, at 8:56 AM, "Antimon" <antimon at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Ice packs are bad, first off they are too cold and can actually hurt  
> your skin and be unhealthy, beyond that you're adding in a ton of  
> weight, and once they stop providing cooling, all they do is make  
> you hotter, and trap sweat.  It's also uncomfortable to be huged  
> wearing ice packs, limits your mobility and what you can do in suit  
> like lay down and get scritched, or do inflateable mazes, etc.  not  
> worth it.  Plus it wont fit onder suits that are propelry fitted to  
> you and.or look bulgy and weird
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jesse Triplett
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:53 AM
> Subject: Re: FL: under suit wear
>
> Second, I know its a bit off topic, But for cooling purposes, is it  
> worth it to worry about icepacks?  Please understand that the  
> closest i've ever come to suiting was being the easter bunny at an  
> easter egg hunt(sad for me) and that wasn't terribly hot. (although  
> it certainly wasn't cold)
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From marcwolf at marcwolf.org  Wed Feb 20 15:53:48 2008
From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (David Boccabella)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:53:48 +1000
Subject: FL: under suit wear
In-Reply-To: <B2A972E9-76C5-4470-9D40-B38B061BCB49@aol.com>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIMEAHFOAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>

With Icepacks..
When I made Marc I designed him to be fitted wth icepacks. Inside of the
chest section there are 2 pockets that I can slip a couple of icepacks into
and they work very well.

Http://marcwolf.org and look under contruction/cooling

Also - for cooling - flenty of airflow around the head airs helps a lot.

Take care

Dave


  -----Original Message-----
  From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
[mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of Kristen Kim
  Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2008 03:32
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
  Subject: Re: FL: under suit wear


  That is why you need GlacierTek
  (www.coolvest.com).  The freezing point is much higher, so it doesn't
freeze your skin like ice.  Not only do I wear the cool vest, I also wear
the packs on my forearms and shins, where I produce the most heat.  They
last up to 2 hours, and solidify in 20 minutes in ice warer.  I've been
using them for 5 years and will not suit without them.


  Lycra/Spandex suits under my fursuit make me too hot, but I do wear a
t-shirt made of similar material, designed to keep you cool, and bike
shorts.  You need to experiment and find what works best for you.


  True, they will not fit in a form-fitting suit.  But there are cooling
neck collars.


  Minnie

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Feb 20, 2008, at 8:56 AM, "Antimon" <antimon at earthlink.net> wrote:


    Ice packs are bad, first off they are too cold and can actually hurt
your skin and be unhealthy, beyond that you're adding in a ton of weight,
and once they stop providing cooling, all they do is make you hotter, and
trap sweat.  It's also uncomfortable to be huged wearing ice packs, limits
your mobility and what you can do in suit like lay down and get scritched,
or do inflateable mazes, etc.  not worth it.  Plus it wont fit onder suits
that are propelry fitted to you and.or look bulgy and weird


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Jesse Triplett
      To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
      Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:53 AM
      Subject: Re: FL: under suit wear

      Second, I know its a bit off topic, But for cooling purposes, is it
worth it to worry about icepacks?  Please understand that the closest i've
ever come to suiting was being the easter bunny at an easter egg hunt(sad
for me) and that wasn't terribly hot. (although it certainly wasn't cold)

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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Wed Feb 20 16:07:28 2008
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:07:28 -0500
Subject: FL: under suit wear
In-Reply-To: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIMEAHFOAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>
References: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIMEAHFOAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>
Message-ID: <C4225A26-50F3-4338-B045-3D0CCF98686F@flyingfox.biz>

I had a little extra room in scape that i planned on filling out with  
foam but my cool vest took care of that -so i'm the perfect shape,  
plus nice and cool! lol but yeah cool vests are better than ice packs  
-i even let my cool vest "warm up" to it's natural temp (steady 58  
degrees) since it numbs me if i put it on straight out of the freezer.


Scape

Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



On Feb 20, 2008, at 3:53 PM, David Boccabella wrote:

With Icepacks..
When I made Marc I designed him to be fitted wth icepacks. Inside of  
the chest section there are 2 pockets that I can slip a couple of  
icepacks into and they work very well.

Http://marcwolf.org and look under contruction/cooling

Also - for cooling - flenty of airflow around the head airs helps a lot.

Take care

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org [mailto:fursuit-list- 
bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of Kristen Kim
Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2008 03:32
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Subject: Re: FL: under suit wear

That is why you need GlacierTek
(www.coolvest.com).  The freezing point is much higher, so it doesn't  
freeze your skin like ice.  Not only do I wear the cool vest, I also  
wear the packs on my forearms and shins, where I produce the most  
heat.  They last up to 2 hours, and solidify in 20 minutes in ice  
warer.  I've been using them for 5 years and will not suit without them.

Lycra/Spandex suits under my fursuit make me too hot, but I do wear a  
t-shirt made of similar material, designed to keep you cool, and bike  
shorts.  You need to experiment and find what works best for you.

True, they will not fit in a form-fitting suit.  But there are  
cooling neck collars.

Minnie

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 20, 2008, at 8:56 AM, "Antimon" <antimon at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Ice packs are bad, first off they are too cold and can actually  
> hurt your skin and be unhealthy, beyond that you're adding in a ton  
> of weight, and once they stop providing cooling, all they do is  
> make you hotter, and trap sweat.  It's also uncomfortable to be  
> huged wearing ice packs, limits your mobility and what you can do  
> in suit like lay down and get scritched, or do inflateable mazes,  
> etc.  not worth it.  Plus it wont fit onder suits that are propelry  
> fitted to you and.or look bulgy and weird
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jesse Triplett
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:53 AM
> Subject: Re: FL: under suit wear
>
> Second, I know its a bit off topic, But for cooling purposes, is it  
> worth it to worry about icepacks?  Please understand that the  
> closest i've ever come to suiting was being the easter bunny at an  
> easter egg hunt(sad for me) and that wasn't terribly hot. (although  
> it certainly wasn't cold)
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From dave at konig.demon.co.uk  Wed Feb 20 17:21:07 2008
From: dave at konig.demon.co.uk (David Cooke)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:21:07 +0000
Subject: FL: under suit wear
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Kristen Kim wrote:
> That is why you need GlacierTek 
> (www.coolvest.com <http://www.coolvest.com>).  The freezing point is 
> much higher, so it doesn't freeze your skin like ice.  Not only do I 
> wear the cool vest, I also wear the packs on my forearms and shins, 
> where I produce the most heat.  They last up to 2 hours, and solidify in 
> 20 minutes in ice warer.  I've been using them for 5 years and will not 
> suit without them.

Another vote here for using a cool vest (which uses phase change
material to sit at 18 centigrade - pleasantly cool), but with the
caveat that you need to be aware of the 2 hour limit and plan
accordingly.  Easy to recharge in less than 20 mins with a bucket
of ice from a hotel vending area.  The pouches are soft and flexible,
and don't have any issues that Antimon described.

Got mine from http://www.texascoolvest.com/

I use Lowe Alpine Dryflo undergarments, primarily because I'm
familiar with them and they are readily available from the local
outdoor shop.

	David Cooke.



From fox at mchsi.com  Wed Feb 20 19:29:50 2008
From: fox at mchsi.com (fox)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:29:50 -0600
Subject: FL: Teeny tiny Motor... (Stego) (Jesse Triplett)
Message-ID: <000f01c87420$dfe3c180$9fab4480$@com>

They have might barely have the torque but not the speed or the travel. 

 

5 Newtons of force is what they claim with a stall strength of a little
higher, but for a tail I wouldn't recommend anything under 42oz/in (or
roughly 3x that strong). I use 60oz/in min personally.

 

Speed wise; 7mm/s vs the average servo of .2s/60deg. Using WolfTronix's
(www.wolftronix.com) 2" pulleys, that's about 1" of travel in .2s (or
roughly 4 times the travel in 1/5th the time). The squiggle would give a
very slow motion.

 

And travel, using 90deg deflection for servo movement with full travel of
180degrees on a 2" pulley, that's 3" of total travel. The squiggle motors
top out around 30mm of travel or about 2/5 the travel. So not only would it
be a slow motion, it wouldn't be particularly far motion.

 

They are pretty strong for their size, but are overall too weak, slow, and
short for tails. Perhaps for some facial control (snarl or eyebrows) they
would work, but for general purpose animatronics. no go IMHO.

 

Windancer/Frryfox

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From bob at ginkosoft.com  Wed Feb 20 20:11:06 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:11:06 -0800
Subject: FL: under suit wear
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Add another vote for under-armor. They also make heatguard shirts and 
shorts that'll pass for street clothes, which is what I use most often.

The logic for this as opposed to cotton is that it doesn't trap the 
moisture in but wicks it away. That way, the evaporation can work 
better, keeping you cooler, and thus, making you sweat less.

Mind you, this doesn't work as well if you're ill with a fever.

From evil.overlord at hawke.de  Thu Feb 21 02:08:00 2008
From: evil.overlord at hawke.de (Hawke)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:08:00 +0100
Subject: FL: under suit wear
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Bob Bauhaus wrote:
> The logic for this as opposed to cotton is that it doesn't trap the 
> moisture in but wicks it away. That way, the evaporation can work 
> better, keeping you cooler, and thus, making you sweat less.
>   
Sounds nice, but doesn't that mean it transfers the sweat directly to 
your suit, so the effect would be the same as if you'd sweat into your suit?
One of my reasons for wearing under suit wear is to keep the sweat away 
from the suit to prevet ist from becoming it smelly without having to 
wash it very often.

Hawke


From helvetica at dslextreme.com  Thu Feb 21 03:23:28 2008
From: helvetica at dslextreme.com (Phillip Burgess)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:23:28 -0800
Subject: FL: under suit wear
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On Feb 20, 2008, at 11:08 PM, Hawke wrote:

> Sounds nice, but doesn't [wicking] mean it transfers the sweat  
> directly to
> your suit, so the effect would be the same as if you'd sweat into  
> your suit?

The sweat is dispersed over a larger area and evaporates almost  
instantly.  The resulting water vapor readily passes through outer  
layers, exchanged with dry air through regular movement.  Sweat has  
less opportunity to "pool up" in problem areas and cause a funk.

Under Armour and the like have a secondary benefit of simply being  
more comfortable for extended use, empirically demonstrated if you've  
ever, say, tried bicycling any considerable distance on a hot day  
while wearing cotton underwear.  Those areas of the body most prone to  
heavy perspiration also have some of the most tender skin, and sweat- 
saturated cotton rubbing against such spots can cause chafing or even  
a painful and persistent rash.

-- Phil


From bob at ginkosoft.com  Thu Feb 21 03:52:03 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:52:03 -0800
Subject: FL: under suit wear
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> Sounds nice, but doesn't that mean it transfers the sweat directly to 
> your suit, so the effect would be the same as if you'd sweat into your 
> suit?

The issue is sweating is a given, unless you've got insane cooling or 
it's only for very short durations. But if you hold it all in, the sweat 
will cling to your skin, reducing your body's ability to keep cool, 
causing you to sweat more, and keeping the sweat around to get funky.

Yes, some sweat will get to the suit. But don't forget you've also got a 
layer of air in there. If it's in a form that spreads the surface area, 
it'll evaporate instead of going to the suit. Not only that, but it'll 
keep you cool, and that will cause less sweat to the suit than if you 
tried to hold it in. I haven't tested it, but the belief is that 
underarmor evaporates the sweat better than skin does.

If nothing else, take it from someone's whose gone from tee-shirt and 
shorts to fancy-pants underarmor.

If you're still concerned, add in fans or ventilation to keep you from 
needing to sweat so much in the first place. For the record, I know that 
Moffet Field doesn't use their 80 by 120 foot wind tunnel anymore, and 
it's only 15 minutes off of 101 from where FC's held.

> One of my reasons for wearing under suit wear is to keep the sweat away 
> from the suit to prevent it from becoming it smelly without having to 
> wash it very often.

Repeat after me: Fabreeze and lysol, the suit inside out to dry each day 
of use, and hand washing after a few days of heavy use when you can 
afford to hang it up to dry for a day or two. They WILL need it, for no 
other reason than that you also have to address smells that don't come 
from you. Either that, or post signs, "You must be *this* odor-free to 
hug the fuzzy thing."

From illpalazzosama at gmail.com  Thu Feb 21 09:57:55 2008
From: illpalazzosama at gmail.com (Jesse Triplett)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:57:55 -0500
Subject: FL: Teeny tiny Motor... (Stego) (Jesse Triplett)
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Awesome.  Thanks
Jesse

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 7:29 PM, fox <fox at mchsi.com> wrote:

>  They have might barely have the torque but not the speed or the travel.
>
>
>
> 5 Newtons of force is what they claim with a stall strength of a little
> higher, but for a tail I wouldn't recommend anything under 42oz/in (or
> roughly 3x that strong). I use 60oz/in min personally.
>
>
>
> Speed wise; 7mm/s vs the average servo of .2s/60deg. Using WolfTronix's (
> www.wolftronix.com) 2" pulleys, that's about 1" of travel in .2s (or
> roughly 4 times the travel in 1/5th the time). The squiggle would give a
> very slow motion.
>
>
>
> And travel, using 90deg deflection for servo movement with full travel of
> 180degrees on a 2" pulley, that's 3" of total travel. The squiggle motors
> top out around 30mm of travel or about 2/5 the travel. So not only would it
> be a slow motion, it wouldn't be particularly far motion.
>
>
>
> They are pretty strong for their size, but are overall too weak, slow, and
> short for tails. Perhaps for some facial control (snarl or eyebrows) they
> would work, but for general purpose animatronics? no go IMHO.
>
>
>
> Windancer/Frryfox
>
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From antimon at earthlink.net  Thu Feb 21 11:58:07 2008
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:58:07 -0500
Subject: FL: under suit wear
In-Reply-To: <1203583926.1CD5E011@gf26.dngr.org>
References: <577261b40802191820t58af36a4g9de67401f7191ffe@mail.gmail.com><a584d75d0802192245r3f43881ch67cf6b89d1c75a66@mail.gmail.com><17c400530802192353q40bb6e7eu25a0a67cddac9f34@mail.gmail.com><CC40274E6968446FBE0428131C284287@AntimonPC><47BCA7D3.20807@konig.demon.co.uk><1203556268.7ADBC88@ff9.dngr.org>
	<47BD2350.2020601@hawke.de><1203583925.2E768B19@bf11.dngr.org>
	<1203583926.1CD5E011@gf26.dngr.org>
Message-ID: <E2546909225F4CD0B4FEE25752AF0D8A@AntimonPC>

The reason why we sweat is to cool off, as air moving against moisture cools 
better then air moving across dry skin.  But what the udner suit does is 
distripute that moister and prevent the drip drip onto the suit it also 
prevents pockets of heavier moister from forming.  On top of that it acts 
like a filter, keeping oils or dirt on the inside of the undersuit enstead 
of on your fur backing, so even if the suit gets wet, it doeesn't get 
anywhere near as wet overall, it's more evenly wet and it's a cleaner wet.

Did we mention the suit is 1000x easier to take off when you have something 
smooth and silky then sticky sweaty skin or cotton

Ewwwww fan boi stink.....I hate when smelly people hug me....
Generlaly i wash my suits every 4 or 5 events, and i spray them down after 
every event once I get home, not so much during the con.  I'm not all that 
active in suit the majoority of the time though.  Perfering to lay in a 
corner and cuddle

mmm wind tunnel, can we get the bird suits to fly?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Bauhaus" <bob at ginkosoft.com>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 3:52 AM
Subject: Re: FL: under suit wear

> The issue is sweating is a given, unless you've got insane cooling or
> it's only for very short durations. But if you hold it all in, the sweat
> will cling to your skin, reducing your body's ability to keep cool,
> causing you to sweat more, and keeping the sweat around to get funky.

> Repeat after me: Fabreeze and lysol, the suit inside out to dry each day
> of use, and hand washing after a few days of heavy use when you can
> afford to hang it up to dry for a day or two. They WILL need it, for no
> other reason than that you also have to address smells that don't come
> from you. Either that, or post signs, "You must be *this* odor-free to
> hug the fuzzy thing."


From stego at cpl.net  Thu Feb 21 15:19:16 2008
From: stego at cpl.net (Stego)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:19:16 -0800
Subject: FL: Average noggin size...
In-Reply-To: <E2546909225F4CD0B4FEE25752AF0D8A@AntimonPC>
References: <577261b40802191820t58af36a4g9de67401f7191ffe@mail.gmail.com><a584d75d0802192245r3f43881ch67cf6b89d1c75a66@mail.gmail.com><17c400530802192353q40bb6e7eu25a0a67cddac9f34@mail.gmail.com><CC40274E6968446FBE0428131C284287@AntimonPC><47BCA7D3.20807@konig.demon.co.uk><1203556268.7ADBC88@ff9.dngr.org>	<47BD2350.2020601@hawke.de><1203583925.2E768B19@bf11.dngr.org>	<1203583926.1CD5E011@gf26.dngr.org>
	<E2546909225F4CD0B4FEE25752AF0D8A@AntimonPC>
Message-ID: <47BDDCC4.4040505@cpl.net>

Hello all!
  Quick question for all of you adults above 20 years old if yall dont 
mind (Basically for those humans whom have stopped growing):

What is the circumference of your head, from the front of the forehead 
around the tips of the ears to the back of the head?

I'm trying to get a general average of headsize for the projects I'm 
working on: I've found that my own noggin is on the "XL" side of things, 
with my circumference being 24.5", whereas my GF has a circumference of 
22", and I'm not certain if thats small or not.

To prevent bombardment of the list, please send responses to 
stego at cpl.net. For the benefit of others, I will post the results here 
in summary form if I get enough responses.

-Stego


From omegapheonix89 at aol.com  Thu Feb 21 16:06:14 2008
From: omegapheonix89 at aol.com (omegapheonix89 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:06:14 -0500
Subject: FL: Average noggin size...
In-Reply-To: <47BDDCC4.4040505@cpl.net>
References: <577261b40802191820t58af36a4g9de67401f7191ffe@mail.gmail.com><a584d75d0802192245r3f43881ch67cf6b89d1c75a66@mail.gmail.com><17c400530802192353q40bb6e7eu25a0a67cddac9f34@mail.gmail.com><CC40274E6968446FBE0428131C284287@AntimonPC><47BCA7D3.20807@konig.demon.co.uk><1203556268.7ADBC88@ff9.dngr.org>	<47BD2350.2020601@hawke.de><1203583925.2E768B19@bf11.dngr.org>	<1203583926.1CD5E011@gf26.dngr.org>	<E2546909225F4CD0B4FEE25752AF0D8A@AntimonPC>
	<47BDDCC4.4040505@cpl.net>
Message-ID: <8CA42E4BA1F3A93-146C-4E3C@webmail-nc10.sysops.aol.com>

I would totally give you a measurement but i think i have a bigger then normal head =P


-----Original Message-----
From: Stego <stego at cpl.net>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:19 pm
Subject: FL: Average noggin size...



Hello all!
  Quick question for all of you adults above 20 years old if yall dont 
mind (Basically for those humans whom have stopped growing):

What is the circumference of your head, from the front of the forehead 
around the tips of the ears to the back of the head?

I'm trying to get a general average of headsize for the projects I'm 
working on: I've found that my own noggin is on the "XL" side of things, 
with my circumference being 24.5", whereas my GF has a circumference of 
22", and I'm not certain if thats small or not.

To prevent bombardment of the list, please send responses to 
stego at cpl.net. For the benefit of others, I will post the results here 
in summary form if I get enough responses.

-Stego

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From 12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us  Thu Feb 21 21:25:14 2008
From: 12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us (Arthur Hamilton)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:25:14 -0700
Subject: FL: Can any one tell me where,
	I can find a wolf pattern and fur for a wolf suit?
Message-ID: <1203647114.8509ae8012AHAMILTON1@Davis.k12.ut.us>



-----Original Message-----
From: Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:48:36 -0800
Subject: Re: FL: Can any one tell me where, I can find a wolf pattern and fur for a wolf suit?

I would suggest looking at the FAQ part of fursuit.org web site. There is a
great amount of info there for making fursuits.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On Feb 7, 2008 10:06 AM, Kelila Wolf <mysticwolf325 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi every one, I hate to ask and I'm thinking about making my own fursuit
> and was wondering if any one here can tell me where I could find a wolf
> pattern and some good fur to make a fursuit? I am new to fursuit making, and
> this will be my first go at it. I will appreciate any information you can
> give me. Thank you.
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try www.fottedpajamas.com! it has a few good patterns!!



From Mezzobean at aol.com  Thu Feb 21 22:15:50 2008
From: Mezzobean at aol.com (Mezzobean at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:15:50 EST
Subject: FL: Can any one tell me where,
	I can find a wolf pattern and fur for a wo...
Message-ID: <bed.1df182df.34ef9866@aol.com>

I can't help with pattern info, but I recommend
 
_www.montereymills.com_ (http://www.montereymills.com) 
 
as a resource for the fur. I bought an entire roll (about 13 yards) of  their 
butterscotch colored pile last year and have enough for a second costume.  
Click on  "Our Catalogue" at the top of the home page. Good luck!
_Mezzobean at aol.com_ (mailto:Mezzobean at aol.com) 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 2/21/2008 9:42:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us writes:



-----Original Message-----
From: Donkey  <donkeyears at gmail.com>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Date:  Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:48:36 -0800
Subject: Re: FL: Can any one tell me where,  I can find a wolf pattern and 
fur for a wolf  suit?






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From subcultural_girl113 at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 22 00:06:15 2008
From: subcultural_girl113 at yahoo.com (jenny herret)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:06:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Can any one tell me where,
	I can find a wolf pattern and fur for a wolf suit?
In-Reply-To: <1203647114.8509ae8012AHAMILTON1@Davis.k12.ut.us>
Message-ID: <525737.16468.qm@web45315.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>



Arthur Hamilton <12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us> wrote:    hmmn lonewolfs den has decient toturials heres a link http://wolfden.critter.net/fursuits/constrctn/tail.htm
    another good site *and it has photos!* is http://bladespark.topcities.com/costume/photohow.html 
   also check out www.furrhappens.com heres a link http://www.furrhappens.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=47
  and the best fur for a wolf suit is long pile fur cause it makes it look more realistic but it depends on your preferances ^__^ hope this helps!
   
  -----Original Message-----
From: Donkey 
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:48:36 -0800
Subject: Re: FL: Can any one tell me where, I can find a wolf pattern and fur for a wolf suit?

I would suggest looking at the FAQ part of fursuit.org web site. There is a
great amount of info there for making fursuits.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On Feb 7, 2008 10:06 AM, Kelila Wolf wrote:

> Hi every one, I hate to ask and I'm thinking about making my own fursuit
> and was wondering if any one here can tell me where I could find a wolf
> pattern and some good fur to make a fursuit? I am new to fursuit making, and
> this will be my first go at it. I will appreciate any information you can
> give me. Thank you.
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From superjay at hawkcave.com  Fri Feb 22 03:41:33 2008
From: superjay at hawkcave.com (Super Jayhawk)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:41:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: A Question about Darkstone Realms/Realms of Enchantment
In-Reply-To: <022120082039.571.47BDE16E000145870000023B22155517249B020E000E090A03@comcast.net>
References: <022120082039.571.47BDE16E000145870000023B22155517249B020E000E090A03@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0802220033320.13479@bigjay.hawkcave.com>

Hi everyone,

I was asked by a friend of mine about Realms of Enchantment (also known as 
Darkstone Realms) who mailed some fabric for a custom jaguar fursuit.
Apparently he's having trouble getting ahold of them and their website is 
down.  Does anyone have any updated contact info for Realms of Enchantment 
or have info as to their status?

 								Thanks!

_________________________________________________________________________
Super Jayhawk, Bird in Spandex

__________________________________________________________________________

> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>> Hello this is David.
>> I have a question that you might be able to shed some
>> light on for me. Have you heard of Realms of Enchantment? It is the
>> place where I got my Jaguar fursuit. About six months ago I mailed
>> them some fabric for them to sew me a custom fur suit. I paid them
>> for their work. My suit was a bit behind and I was told it would be
>> ready by Spring. Herer is the bad part. I noticed the website is
>> gone. The e-mail I have bounces back. By any chance would you know
>> what has happenned to them? All I can figure out is the obvious that
>> they closed their doors. I figured since you are a fur suit guy you
>> might know of something.

From m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de  Fri Feb 22 04:03:01 2008
From: m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de (Markus Kalkbrenner)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:03:01 +0100
Subject: FL: A Question about Darkstone Realms/Realms of Enchantment
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0802220033320.13479@bigjay.hawkcave.com>
References: <022120082039.571.47BDE16E000145870000023B22155517249B020E000E090A03@comcast.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0802220033320.13479@bigjay.hawkcave.com>
Message-ID: <534295354.20080222100301@maskottchen-germany.de>

Hi Super Jayhawk,

I ordered 6 months ago a Tiger body. No response.
I payed the suit in advance.
Easy to say i feel pissed off as business customer from em.
I allso remove they costumes of my business sales site next because i need
trustable and relyable business relationship.

Mail does not work anymore.

Again i been ripped by US people (3 time now ).  Sadly.

Atalon the Deer
Mascot Business Owner and furry







From fox at flyingfox.biz  Fri Feb 22 07:37:52 2008
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:37:52 -0500
Subject: FL: A Question about Darkstone Realms/Realms of Enchantment
In-Reply-To: <534295354.20080222100301@maskottchen-germany.de>
References: <022120082039.571.47BDE16E000145870000023B22155517249B020E000E090A03@comcast.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0802220033320.13479@bigjay.hawkcave.com>
	<534295354.20080222100301@maskottchen-germany.de>
Message-ID: <7372E3DD-B7D3-4D32-B7B4-217CDEB0E228@flyingfox.biz>

*hug* I am sorry Atalon
You would think being furries and especially fursuiters that we would  
be a tight-knit family of friends who never do such things to eachother
I hope everything will still work out for you

Scape




On Feb 22, 2008, at 4:03 AM, Markus Kalkbrenner wrote:

Hi Super Jayhawk,

I ordered 6 months ago a Tiger body. No response.
I payed the suit in advance.
Easy to say i feel pissed off as business customer from em.
I allso remove they costumes of my business sales site next because i  
need
trustable and relyable business relationship.

Mail does not work anymore.

Again i been ripped by US people (3 time now ).  Sadly.

Atalon the Deer
Mascot Business Owner and furry






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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Fri Feb 22 08:03:08 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:03:08 -0800
Subject: FL: A Question about Darkstone Realms/Realms of Enchantment
In-Reply-To: <7372E3DD-B7D3-4D32-B7B4-217CDEB0E228@flyingfox.biz>
References: <022120082039.571.47BDE16E000145870000023B22155517249B020E000E090A03@comcast.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0802220033320.13479@bigjay.hawkcave.com>
	<534295354.20080222100301@maskottchen-germany.de>
	<7372E3DD-B7D3-4D32-B7B4-217CDEB0E228@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0802220503w2b0177d6w8b77f17bd085fc52@mail.gmail.com>

I have had dealings with them years ago and I was quite happy with them.
What might have happened was that they went out of business. It does happen.

Donkey

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 4:37 AM, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:

> *hug* I am sorry AtalonYou would think being furries and especially
> fursuiters that we would be a tight-knit family of friends who never do such
> things to eachother
> I hope everything will still work out for you
>
> Scape
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 22, 2008, at 4:03 AM, Markus Kalkbrenner wrote:
>
> Hi Super Jayhawk,
>
> I ordered 6 months ago a Tiger body. No response.
> I payed the suit in advance.
> Easy to say i feel pissed off as business customer from em.
> I allso remove they costumes of my business sales site next because i need
> trustable and relyable business relationship.
>
> Mail does not work anymore.
>
> Again i been ripped by US people (3 time now ).  Sadly.
>
> Atalon the Deer
> Mascot Business Owner and furry
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From binx_the_eevee at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 22 09:55:01 2008
From: binx_the_eevee at yahoo.com (Binkse Wolfcat)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:55:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: A Question about Darkstone Realms/Realms of Enchantment
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0802220503w2b0177d6w8b77f17bd085fc52@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <871791.41358.qm@web56614.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Yea and they spend months collecting people's cash before they file for bankruptcy too.  I won't say that's what happened here, just that I've seen it happen before.

Sorry, never introduced myself on a whole to the group.  Name's Binx, arctic fox staying on the east coast.  Good to meet you all.  n.n

Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote: I have had dealings with them years ago and I was quite happy with them. What might have happened was that they went out of business. It does happen.

Donkey

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 4:37 AM, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
  *hug* I am sorry AtalonYou would think being furries and especially fursuiters that we would be a tight-knit family of friends who never do such things to eachother
I hope everything will still work out for you
 

Scape

 




 

On Feb 22, 2008, at 4:03 AM, Markus Kalkbrenner wrote:

Hi Super Jayhawk,
 

I ordered 6 months ago a Tiger body. No response.
I payed the suit in advance.
Easy to say i feel pissed off as business customer from em.
 I allso remove they costumes of my business sales site next because i need
trustable and relyable business relationship.
 

Mail does not work anymore.


Again i been ripped by US people (3 time now ).  Sadly.
 

Atalon the Deer
Mascot Business Owner and furry


 









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From aidenislove at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 22 10:56:19 2008
From: aidenislove at yahoo.com (Aiden Raccoon)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:56:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: A Question about Darkstone Realms/Realms of Enchantment
In-Reply-To: <871791.41358.qm@web56614.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <939788.79212.qm@web33906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Does anyone know if Lacy is on this list?  I've made a payment to her about a month and a half ago for some new fursuit parts and I can't get a reply to save my life.  It always makes me nervous when a "merchant" doesn't reply after the $500 has been sent.  She even solicited me the work at MFF and I made the payment around mid December.  I wouldn't think this would happen with her since she is somewhat well known with fursuits and seems to be cranking them out still.  I know for a fursuit maker, it must be tough having to deal with a million impatient customers wanting to know everyday how their suit is coming along, but I just want some acknowledgment that the payment is received, and that the work will begin on X date and will be ready around X date.  There is still a minimal amount of communication that must still happen, even if you are sick of talking to people, if that is the case.

Binkse Wolfcat <binx_the_eevee at yahoo.com> wrote: Yea and they spend months collecting people's cash before they file for bankruptcy too.  I won't say that's what happened here, just that I've seen it happen before.

Sorry, never introduced myself on a whole to the group.  Name's Binx, arctic fox staying on the east coast.  Good to meet you all.  n.n

Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote: I have had dealings with them years ago and I was quite happy with them. What might have happened was that they went out of business. It does happen.

Donkey

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 4:37 AM, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
  *hug* I am sorry  AtalonYou would think being furries and especially fursuiters that we would be a tight-knit family of friends who never do such things to eachother
I hope everything will still work out for you
 

Scape

 




 

On Feb  22, 2008, at 4:03 AM, Markus Kalkbrenner wrote:

Hi Super Jayhawk,
 

I ordered 6 months ago a Tiger body. No response.
I payed the suit in advance.
Easy to say i feel pissed off as business customer from em.
 I allso remove they costumes of my business sales site next because i need
trustable and relyable business relationship.
 

Mail does not work anymore.


Again i been ripped by US people (3 time now ).  Sadly.
 

Atalon the Deer
Mascot  Business Owner and furry


 









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From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Fri Feb 22 15:00:06 2008
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:00:06 +0000
Subject: FL: A Question about Darkstone Realms/Realms of Enchantment
In-Reply-To: <939788.79212.qm@web33906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Lacy still owes me a comision and she has not responded to me either....


Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:56:19 -0800From: aidenislove at yahoo.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: A Question about Darkstone Realms/Realms of EnchantmentDoes anyone know if Lacy is on this list?  I've made a payment to her about a month and a half ago for some new fursuit parts and I can't get a reply to save my life.  It always makes me nervous when a "merchant" doesn't reply after the $500 has been sent.  She even solicited me the work at MFF and I made the payment around mid December.  I wouldn't think this would happen with her since she is somewhat well known with fursuits and seems to be cranking them out still.  I know for a fursuit maker, it must be tough having to deal with a million impatient customers wanting to know everyday how their suit is coming along, but I just want some acknowledgment that the payment is received, and that the work will begin on X date and will be ready around X date.  There is still a minimal amount of communication that must still happen, even if you are sick of talking to people, if that is the case.Binkse Wolfcat <binx_the_eevee at yahoo.com> wrote: 
Yea and they spend months collecting people's cash before they file for bankruptcy too.  I won't say that's what happened here, just that I've seen it happen before.Sorry, never introduced myself on a whole to the group.  Name's Binx, arctic fox staying on the east coast.  Good to meet you all.  n.nDonkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote: 
I have had dealings with them years ago and I was quite happy with them. What might have happened was that they went out of business. It does happen.Donkey
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 4:37 AM, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:

*hug* I am sorry Atalon 
You would think being furries and especially fursuiters that we would be a tight-knit family of friends who never do such things to eachother
I hope everything will still work out for you

Scape 







On Feb 22, 2008, at 4:03 AM, Markus Kalkbrenner wrote:
Hi Super Jayhawk,

I ordered 6 months ago a Tiger body. No response.
I payed the suit in advance.
Easy to say i feel pissed off as business customer from em.
I allso remove they costumes of my business sales site next because i need
trustable and relyable business relationship.

Mail does not work anymore.

Again i been ripped by US people (3 time now ).  Sadly.

Atalon the Deer
Mascot Business Owner and furry






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From barenziah at gmail.com  Fri Feb 22 15:41:40 2008
From: barenziah at gmail.com (Beth)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:41:40 -0500
Subject: FL: A Question about Darkstone Realms/Realms of Enchantment
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I was having problems contacting another fursuit maker as well but they were
just swamped with suit work and my emails got lost in the shuffle.  I'd say
try contacting them by IM, PM on a forum/site they frequent, or something
like that, you'd probably have better luck. :)

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:00 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:

>  Lacy still owes me a comision and she has not responded to me either....
>
>  ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:56:19 -0800
> From: aidenislove at yahoo.com
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: A Question about Darkstone Realms/Realms of Enchantment
>
>
> Does anyone know if Lacy is on this list?  I've made a payment to her
> about a month and a half ago for some new fursuit parts and I can't get a
> reply to save my life.  It always makes me nervous when a "merchant" doesn't
> reply after the $500 has been sent.  She even solicited me the work at MFF
> and I made the payment around mid December.  I wouldn't think this would
> happen with her since she is somewhat well known with fursuits and seems to
> be cranking them out still.  I know for a fursuit maker, it must be tough
> having to deal with a million impatient customers wanting to know everyday
> how their suit is coming along, but I just want some acknowledgment that the
> payment is received, and that the work will begin on X date and will be
> ready around X date.  There is still a minimal amount of communication that
> must still happen, even if you are sick of talking to people, if that is the
> case.
>
> *Binkse Wolfcat <binx_the_eevee at yahoo.com>* wrote:
>
> Yea and they spend months collecting people's cash before they file for
> bankruptcy too.  I won't say that's what happened here, just that I've seen
> it happen before.
>
> Sorry, never introduced myself on a whole to the group.  Name's Binx,
> arctic fox staying on the east coast.  Good to meet you all.  n.n
>
> *Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> I have had dealings with them years ago and I was quite happy with them.
> What might have happened was that they went out of business. It does happen.
>
> Donkey
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 4:37 AM, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
>
> *hug* I am sorry Atalon You would think being furries and especially
> fursuiters that we would be a tight-knit family of friends who never do such
> things to eachother
> I hope everything will still work out for you
>
> Scape
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Feb 22, 2008, at 4:03 AM, Markus Kalkbrenner wrote:
>
> Hi Super Jayhawk,
>
> I ordered 6 months ago a Tiger body. No response.
> I payed the suit in advance.
> Easy to say i feel pissed off as business customer from em.
> I allso remove they costumes of my business sales site next because i need
> trustable and relyable business relationship.
>
> Mail does not work anymore.
>
> Again i been ripped by US people (3 time now ).  Sadly.
>
> Atalon the Deer
> Mascot Business Owner and furry
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From dualchimera at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 22 17:24:32 2008
From: dualchimera at yahoo.com (Keeper Of Dreams)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:24:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: A Question about Darkstone Realms/Realms of Enchantment
In-Reply-To: <54d7dd030802221241i79d3275aw1beb8b27a133c70@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <78026.96322.qm@web54207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

About the Lacy thing, I hope y'all weren't taken by
that person who was pretending to be Lacy a while
back. If you know for sure it was Lacy you talked to,
ignore this message. :)


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From m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de  Sat Feb 23 04:02:15 2008
From: m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de (Markus Kalkbrenner)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:02:15 +0100
Subject: FL: A Question about Darkstone Realms/Realms of Enchantment
In-Reply-To: <54d7dd030802221241i79d3275aw1beb8b27a133c70@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Folks

I hope it workout well at least but i lost hope in case of Darkstone.
The money is already for me written down as lost money.
More angry about that is that i lost a premier NFL customer with that.

No response of fursuitmakers:
We I'm one too - some times you have so much to do you hardly can response the
mail. This is not a excuse for that. But at least after 2-3 weeks a response
should be done for the customer.
But some Fursuitmakers do too many commissions in row and so they get lost if
something happens such like a sickness, personal problems .......
After making 9 years fursuits and mascot costume i been to the calculation of 1
costume in 4 weeks it worked out it is a amount which is to keep in hands as single
working person in a business.
But still some costumes in row more then i want sometimes. To get the customer
without worries about his money I installed a Lancam in my Workshop so he gets a password and can
watch the process.

Money:
I heard a lot of time that people been ripped of in case of money from
fursuitmakers. Well i can't do my hands in that.
In my case i do a different way of cashing a customer.
Usually i charge the people a be in row money which is 100 Euro or if we meet on a
con he invites me to a Dinner.
Payment for the suit is then happen when i actually start with the suit. Then is
the payment 50% straight up.
But the money goes on a straight on a bank account to park it. Until the suit is
complete done. Last payment is  when the suit is collected or if the customer
agreed, when i start the other 50% of the suit, to pay the rest.
This system worked out good so far for me.

In general to let make a suit is a lot of money for someone. So i just fair for me
to give him some security about is money back or ?
As Scape said we are furries and usually we should keep together and not doing that
money shit and rip a other fur of her hard earned money.
Furs who do such things have not a good stand with me personal !!!!!

So have a nice weekend

Atalon the Deer



















From aidenislove at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 23 06:28:42 2008
From: aidenislove at yahoo.com (Aiden Raccoon)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 03:28:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: A Question about Darkstone Realms/Realms of Enchantment
In-Reply-To: <78026.96322.qm@web54207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <130875.32005.qm@web33913.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Oh I'm sure it was Lacy I sent the money to.  The money on PayPal should go to Amber Barnett.  This freaked me out when I bought my first Lacy suit which was delivered as promised.  That's where my money went this time too.

Keeper Of Dreams <dualchimera at yahoo.com> wrote: About the Lacy thing, I hope y'all weren't taken by
that person who was pretending to be Lacy a while
back. If you know for sure it was Lacy you talked to,
ignore this message. :)


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From yappyfox at thefoxden.com  Sun Feb 24 08:01:43 2008
From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (yappyfox at thefoxden.com)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 08:01:43 -0500
Subject: FL: Fwd: animator/artist in search of a coyotemuse
References: <C3E64475.1804F%o-matic@o-matic.com>
Message-ID: <94B4FDB7-83DB-461E-9E99-797064D7A8E9@thefoxden.com>

I'm forwarding this email to the list, It came to me on the  
fursuit.org admin mail...



Begin forwarded message:

> From: marina zurkow <o-matic at o-matic.com>
> Date: February 23, 2008 9:45:25 PM EST
> To: <fursuit at fursuit.org>
> Subject: animator/artist in search of a coyotemuse
>
> I was hoping you could help me -
> I am currently working on a small commission for Zero1 (http:// 
> www.zero1.org), a biannual media exhibition in San Jose, Ca.
> I am making a piece about coyotes ? well, both the animals and the  
> anthros ? and the flooding of the Guadalupe River.
> I?m an animator, essentially ? see my web site below ? and what I  
> am looking for is someone to video model for me in a coyote  
> fursuit, which I would then use for animation reference. I have a  
> small amount of money, and of course credit will be given to the  
> coyote(s)!
> Ideally, it?d be someone on the east coast, but I also could see  
> doing this remotely (i.e. coyote sends me quicktime clips), or I  
> could possibly travel. Or rent the suit and find someone locally,  
> in the worst case.
>
> I look forward to hearing back from you,
>
> all the best,
>
> Marina Zurkow
>
>
> < http://www.o-matic.com >

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From yappyfox at thefoxden.com  Sun Feb 24 08:01:43 2008
From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (yappyfox at thefoxden.com)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 08:01:43 -0500
Subject: FL: Fwd: animator/artist in search of a coyotemuse
References: <C3E64475.1804F%o-matic@o-matic.com>
Message-ID: <94B4FDB7-83DB-461E-9E99-797064D7A8E9@thefoxden.com>

I'm forwarding this email to the list, It came to me on the  
fursuit.org admin mail...



Begin forwarded message:

> From: marina zurkow <o-matic at o-matic.com>
> Date: February 23, 2008 9:45:25 PM EST
> To: <fursuit at fursuit.org>
> Subject: animator/artist in search of a coyotemuse
>
> I was hoping you could help me -
> I am currently working on a small commission for Zero1 (http:// 
> www.zero1.org), a biannual media exhibition in San Jose, Ca.
> I am making a piece about coyotes ? well, both the animals and the  
> anthros ? and the flooding of the Guadalupe River.
> I?m an animator, essentially ? see my web site below ? and what I  
> am looking for is someone to video model for me in a coyote  
> fursuit, which I would then use for animation reference. I have a  
> small amount of money, and of course credit will be given to the  
> coyote(s)!
> Ideally, it?d be someone on the east coast, but I also could see  
> doing this remotely (i.e. coyote sends me quicktime clips), or I  
> could possibly travel. Or rent the suit and find someone locally,  
> in the worst case.
>
> I look forward to hearing back from you,
>
> all the best,
>
> Marina Zurkow
>
>
> < http://www.o-matic.com >

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From sckrabei2 at hotmail.com  Mon Feb 25 22:48:45 2008
From: sckrabei2 at hotmail.com (luke sckrabei)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:48:45 +0000
Subject: FL: Are you out there OZ Kangaroo!!!
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Hey OZ,
 
Sent a few messages to 3 addresses and haven't recieved a reply.
 
Luke.
 
 
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From yappyfox at thefoxden.com  Mon Feb 25 23:18:00 2008
From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (yappyfox at thefoxden.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:18:00 -0500
Subject: FL: Are you out there OZ Kangaroo!!!
In-Reply-To: <BAY102-W17AC00A01BFB74A17D81E5FB190@phx.gbl>
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He is visiting in Florida right now, and has had a nasty flu virus  
the last few days..


On Feb 25, 2008, at 10:48 PM, luke sckrabei wrote:

>
>
> Hey OZ,
>
> Sent a few messages to 3 addresses and haven't recieved a reply.
>
> Luke.
>
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From loopfurwalker at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 26 06:45:56 2008
From: loopfurwalker at yahoo.com (loop furwalker)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:45:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Are you out there OZ Kangaroo!!!
In-Reply-To: <8E874031-FA73-482F-8E04-6284CB3588AB@thefoxden.com>
Message-ID: <69319.61882.qm@web58401.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

I'm replying now......................see? REPLY!!
   
  I'm a kangaroo in the nu!!
   
  (Naked kangaroo with his ass sticking up toward the camera at the FurCon..........)
   
  My kangaroo name is "Randy"
   
  Buy reply
   
   

       
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From loopfurwalker at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 26 06:47:48 2008
From: loopfurwalker at yahoo.com (loop furwalker)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:47:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Are you out there OZ Kangaroo!!!
In-Reply-To: <BAY102-W17AC00A01BFB74A17D81E5FB190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <893024.13936.qm@web58402.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Here's another reply.............
   
   
  I'm while e. coyote screwing around with the roadrunner------yum yum!!!
   
   

       
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Tue Feb 26 07:21:30 2008
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:21:30 -0500
Subject: FL: Are you out there OZ Kangaroo!!!
In-Reply-To: <8E874031-FA73-482F-8E04-6284CB3588AB@thefoxden.com>
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awwwww
hope you feel better soon, Oz

Scape




On Feb 25, 2008, at 11:18 PM, yappyfox at thefoxden.com wrote:

He is visiting in Florida right now, and has had a nasty flu virus  
the last few days..


On Feb 25, 2008, at 10:48 PM, luke sckrabei wrote:

>
>
> Hey OZ,
>
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>
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From oz_kangaroo at optusnet.com.au  Tue Feb 26 09:48:55 2008
From: oz_kangaroo at optusnet.com.au (oz_kangaroo at optusnet.com.au)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:48:55 +1100
Subject: FL: Are you out there OZ Kangaroo!!!
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From stego at cpl.net  Tue Feb 26 21:05:09 2008
From: stego at cpl.net (Stego)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:05:09 -0800
Subject: FL: Noggin Size Results!
Message-ID: <47C4C555.1000909@cpl.net>

Hello all!
  I wish to thank all who responded! Your responses helped give me 
enough information to figure out which way I needed to go.

Sharing the results:
These are all the responses I received (Names witheld to preserve the 
innocence, except Mine whom is the gigantic-coconut of them all ;)

10 Rsponses:
20.00
22.00
22.00
23.00
23.25
23.50
24.00
24.00
24.00
24.50

Average size: 23".

Thanks again all!

-Stego the Gigantohead. (I Maintain that I am Not "Big-Headded" tho  ;)


From eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 26 23:02:14 2008
From: eagleye1234555 at yahoo.com (Jason Taipale)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:02:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: under suit wear
In-Reply-To: <E2546909225F4CD0B4FEE25752AF0D8A@AntimonPC>
Message-ID: <674105.96831.qm@web52511.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Having read through the e-mails, it seems that several people recommend Under Armour.  Under Armour is polyester/nylon-spandex.  What I wonder is if a cotton-spandex might be more effective.

       
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From uck at growf.com  Tue Feb 26 23:45:09 2008
From: uck at growf.com (uck at growf.com)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:45:09 -0800
Subject: FL: under suit wear
In-Reply-To: <674105.96831.qm@web52511.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <674105.96831.qm@web52511.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47C4EAD5.4000909@growf.com>

I've used both.  The major advantage I've seen for Under Armour vs 
cotton-spandex is that it's really quick to dry.  You can wash it out 
thorougly, hang it to dry, and it's good to go surprisingly quickly.  
Comes in handy at conventions when you plan on 'suiting several times a day.

But cotton-lycra would be my second choice, if Under Armour didn't exist.

-Uck!


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> Having read through the e-mails, it seems that several people 
> recommend Under Armour.  Under Armour is polyester/nylon-spandex.  
> What I wonder is if a cotton-spandex might be more effective.
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From aucune at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 02:29:59 2008
From: aucune at gmail.com (Benoit Houle)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 02:29:59 -0500
Subject: FL: under suit wear
In-Reply-To: <674105.96831.qm@web52511.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <674105.96831.qm@web52511.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Under armour or equivalent is great ... there is other brand thatr are similar in application and cheaper

AWI : http://www.americanwave.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=79301

has a great line of product for a lot cheaper :P

i use them under 'fursuit' or under sport gear :P

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  Subject: Re: FL: under suit wear


  Having read through the e-mails, it seems that several people recommend Under Armour.  Under Armour is polyester/nylon-spandex.  What I wonder is if a cotton-spandex might be more effective.



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From minnieme4rl at aol.com  Wed Feb 27 10:08:45 2008
From: minnieme4rl at aol.com (Kristen Kim)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:08:45 -0800
Subject: FL: Noggin Size Results!
In-Reply-To: <47C4C555.1000909@cpl.net>
References: <47C4C555.1000909@cpl.net>
Message-ID: <3B2CFEC5-684D-449C-AF5B-625F9609256F@aol.com>

I'm slightly bigger than average, 23.5.  So now you have 11 responses.

Minnie

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 26, 2008, at 6:05 PM, Stego <stego at cpl.net> wrote:

> Hello all!
>  I wish to thank all who responded! Your responses helped give me
> enough information to figure out which way I needed to go.
>
> Sharing the results:
> These are all the responses I received (Names witheld to preserve the
> innocence, except Mine whom is the gigantic-coconut of them all ;)
>
> 10 Rsponses:
> 20.00
> 22.00
> 22.00
> 23.00
> 23.25
> 23.50
> 24.00
> 24.00
> 24.00
> 24.50
>
> Average size: 23".
>
> Thanks again all!
>
> -Stego the Gigantohead. (I Maintain that I am Not "Big-Headded"  
> tho  ;)
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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 14:04:55 2008
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:04:55 -0500
Subject: FL: Noggin Size Results!
In-Reply-To: <3B2CFEC5-684D-449C-AF5B-625F9609256F@aol.com>
References: <47C4C555.1000909@cpl.net>
	<3B2CFEC5-684D-449C-AF5B-625F9609256F@aol.com>
Message-ID: <577261b40802271104p1cb1e293w1508ff18d867c3f5@mail.gmail.com>

I'm 24 inches, so a little over average.  Out of curiousity, what is
this all for?

From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Thu Feb 28 00:54:12 2008
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 05:54:12 +0000
Subject: FL: Need help to purchase fur
Message-ID: <BAY101-W42A321EC8B294809B0821CA91B0@phx.gbl>


I'm in a bit of a jam here, this is my first time buying fur to make a full suit for my first time around and my problem is: 
 
How many yards of fur to I need to buy to make a full suit with 2 colors of fur needed?
 
Here is the character that I am making at the moment http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1109196/ and the are it done by my friend Omen/Mushi.
 
A couple others told me that I atleast need 2 yards of the black and about 5/6 yards of the grey fur. If listing my height and weight help to make a judgement then I'm 5'6" and 130 lbs.
 
Thanks for reading and you time,
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From daspony at hotmail.com  Thu Feb 28 00:57:46 2008
From: daspony at hotmail.com (Lisa Smith)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:57:46 -0500
Subject: FL: Need help to purchase fur
In-Reply-To: <BAY101-W42A321EC8B294809B0821CA91B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY101-W42A321EC8B294809B0821CA91B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU137-W531B673D7517B1B26B8D6B11B0@phx.gbl>


8 total yards of fur is waaaaay overboard, if you ask me. Honestly I think you could do that with 1-1 1/2 yards of black, and 2-3 yards of grey. At the MOST.

~Niiku

From: tsukasa06 at msn.com
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 05:54:12 +0000
Subject: FL: Need help to purchase fur








I'm in a bit of a jam here, this is my first time buying fur to make a full suit for my first time around and my problem is: 

 

How many yards of fur to I need to buy to make a full suit with 2 colors of fur needed?

 

Here is the character that I am making at the moment http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1109196/ and the are it done by my friend Omen/Mushi.

 

A couple others told me that I atleast need 2 yards of the black and about 5/6 yards of the grey fur. If listing my height and weight help to make a judgement then I'm 5'6" and 130 lbs.

 

Thanks for reading and you time,

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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Thu Feb 28 01:12:32 2008
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:12:32 -0500
Subject: FL: Need help to purchase fur
In-Reply-To: <BLU137-W531B673D7517B1B26B8D6B11B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY101-W42A321EC8B294809B0821CA91B0@phx.gbl>
	<BLU137-W531B673D7517B1B26B8D6B11B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <577261b40802272212o399c65c5ya5db39ea5bfafeab@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, so I was a bit over enthusiastic in saying you needed 5.5 yards of the
gray, but I'd not go with less than 3.5 yards of the gray, and 1.5 yards of
the black at the least.
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From rsg0910 at iglou.com  Thu Feb 28 01:19:42 2008
From: rsg0910 at iglou.com (Robert Goodwin)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:19:42 -0500 (EST)
Subject: FL: Need help to purchase fur
In-Reply-To: <no.id> from "shane ramos" at Feb 28, 2008 05:54:12 AM
Message-ID: <E1JUc7K-0005pQ-BH@iglou.com>

> I'm in a bit of a jam here, this is my first time buying fur to make a 
> full suit for my first time around and my problem is:
> 
> How many yards of fur to I need to buy to make a full suit with 2 colors 
> of fur needed?

Here's something on the fursuit FAQ that'll answer your question;


Assuming the material is of a 60" width on the roll or folded on the bolt 
(one yard is .9144 metres, one inch is 2.54 centimetres); 

Head - Depending on the head size, around 1-2 yards. 
Body - Allowing for some trimming to be done, 2-3 yards. Lots of padding, 
add an extra 1-2 yards. 
Tail - Some tails are huge, most are small. Most will require up to one 
yard. Large oversize skunk tails can use 2 yards. 
Forepaws/hands - Up to one yard. 
Hindpaws/feet - Up to one yard. 
Wings - How big is your wingspan? Are you going to use fur? You may need 
2-5 yards of fabric. Think about what other materials you may use. 

For shorter widths, you may need more fabric. 

How much is that doggie in the window? Seriously, add up all projected 
costs of doing the costume. If you can't afford to do it right now, then 
start stockpiling the stuff you need over time, then build. The suit can 
wait. Your bills and rent can't. 

Most people go for around 6-8 yards which is more than enough and allows 
for extras and suit repairs. Ordering a 15 yard roll of Monterey Mills fur 
is not uncommon. You can sell off the excess fur or use it for another 
suit. 


From: Damian K 
Subject: RE: FL: How much Fur? 

I can't say exactly I kind of go by instinct and in head metacalculations 
but here's the main factors: 

Most sellers will only cut as short as a half yard, If your making an all 
white suit with a six inch black tail you'll still have to take half a 
yard, keep this in mind. 

Whatever your height is plus half a yard to start. 

Do you have a pattern, either on paper or a very well thought out mental 
plan? How you arrange the cuts will affect the efficiency in parts per 
yard of fabric. No patterns, add another half yard 

If you make a test fit out cheap cloth you'll know exactly how much fabric 
you'll need and forego this guesswork. How experienced are you, depending 
on your confidence in yourself add between zero to one yards. 

If the heads oversized add between 1/2 to 1 yard. 

If the body's exeptionally large and overstuffed add 75 to 100% to the 
last number. 

If the cloth's on a 45 inch wide roll add another 75 to 100%. 

This is of course assuming you're buying one type/color of fabric. 

Round up to the nearest half yard and you should have a bit more than you 
need. That's okay, you'll eventually wear a spot out or desire an upgrade 
to some part of your suit and it'll come in handy.


> A couple others told me that I atleast need 2 yards of the black and 
> about 5/6 yards of the grey fur. If listing my height and weight help to 
> make a judgement then I'm 5'6" and 130 lbs.

We're about the same in height. What Niiku said was good. It helps to have 
extras like it said above. Seems some of us still haven't quite used up 
our Monterey Mills fur bolts. When putting your pattern to the fur, make 
sure you can make it all fit properly on there.

Measure twice, cut once.

I nearly cut one time until I checked the lay of the fur, finding it was 
facing upwards rather than downwards...

-boogi-
(returning to reading a thick chapter...)

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From galen at velocity.net  Thu Feb 28 01:36:22 2008
From: galen at velocity.net (FoxWolfie Galen)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:36:22 -0500
Subject: FL: Need help to purchase fur
In-Reply-To: <BAY101-W42A321EC8B294809B0821CA91B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY101-W42A321EC8B294809B0821CA91B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <h6kcs3hba3v310n87i85hupor4ppo7sdls@4ax.com>

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 05:54:12 +0000, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:

> A couple others told me that I atleast need 2 yards of the black and about 5/6 yards of the grey fur. If listing my height and weight help to make a judgement then I'm 5'6" and 130 lbs.

My best guess is maybe a yard for the black, and perhaps up to 3 for the
gray. I'd buy 2 yards of black and 4 of the gray though. You'll likely have
a fair amount left over, but that's better than running out and discovering
that you can't buy the same fur later. This will allow for mistakes during
construction, and for repairs in the future. I am assuming standard 55- to
60-inch wide fur, which is most common. If desired, any extra fur scraps
can be sold on FurBid.
-- 
FoxWolfie

From jambrassard at earthlink.net  Thu Feb 28 09:55:47 2008
From: jambrassard at earthlink.net (Michel Brassard)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:55:47 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: FL:  Nonstretch NFT Fur
Message-ID: <8064773.1204210547794.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I am looking at several fur options for a bodysuit.  One under consideration is NFT fur.  If I do go with NFT, I am considering their nonstretch fur.  Past experience has showed me that the spandex in their 4-way stretch fur tends to split and come apart and needs constant maintenance.

I was wondering if anybody here has had any experience with the nonstretch variety of NFT fur.  How amendable is their backing to sewing a bodysuit?  Is it heavier than the backing on the Monteray Mills fox fur for example?  Will the nonstretch NFT fur go through a serger like the Monteray Mills does?

Another question is have any of you constructed a fursuit head with NFT fur?

J. A. Michel Brassard - a.k.a. Michel Mephit



From ysengrin at runningwolfpack.com  Thu Feb 28 13:30:45 2008
From: ysengrin at runningwolfpack.com (Ysengrin Blackpaw)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:30:45 -0800
Subject: FL: Nonstretch NFT Fur
In-Reply-To: <8064773.1204210547794.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <8064773.1204210547794.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <47C6FDD5.6080702@runningwolfpack.com>

The normal (nonstretch) NFT fur backing is stronger than the 4-way, but 
isn't quite as strong as MM fur. It does still want to unravel and fray 
at the edges, but not as much as the 4-way. It does hold thread better 
than the normal 4-way stuff, but I haven't tried a serger on it.

NFT also has (had?) a heavier 4-way stretch backing that we've used on 
animatronics. It holds up much, much better than the normal 4-way, but 
you wouldn't want much of it on a suit as it breathes about as well as a 
sheet of rubber.

They also have a lightweight "lace" backing that is amazingly fragile.

We've used it on heads, but we're mostly building on top of a solid 
latex base.

Michel Brassard wrote:
> I am looking at several fur options for a bodysuit.  One under consideration is NFT fur.  If I do go with NFT, I am considering their nonstretch fur.  Past experience has showed me that the spandex in their 4-way stretch fur tends to split and come apart and needs constant maintenance.
>
> I was wondering if anybody here has had any experience with the nonstretch variety of NFT fur.  How amendable is their backing to sewing a bodysuit?  Is it heavier than the backing on the Monteray Mills fox fur for example?  Will the nonstretch NFT fur go through a serger like the Monteray Mills does?
>
> Another question is have any of you constructed a fursuit head with NFT fur?
>
> J. A. Michel Brassard - a.k.a. Michel Mephit
>
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From loopfurwalker at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  3 06:55:27 2008
From: loopfurwalker at yahoo.com (loop furwalker)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 03:55:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: You've found one ---- here I am ----- a fellow furry fellow!!
	Please pass all your furry knowledge back so I cna fill up
	*MY* files from furries from all over the USA ---- at least to start
In-Reply-To: <495619.48799.qm@web63106.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <837464.62623.qm@web58404.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

I'm a fellow furry. I've been "furring" around since middle-school ---- for shame!! (I discovered it at a local college computer center ------ for shame again!! (I snuck in ---- well, at the time the terminals were open to the public, at least the local people, I guess.
   
  The one thing I like about furry characters are the *STATUS-BOARDS* (you know:
   
  Player Name
   
  Character Name
   
  Height
   
  Weight
   
  Backgrounds
   
  (etc)
   
  ......all that great stuff!!
   
  (I started with the folling list --- all in my head):
   
  Lifeforms
   
  People
   
  Places
   
  Items
   
  Treasures
   
  Vehicles
   
  Commands
   
  Languages
   
  (etc ------- tons of drawings and texts ---- some scientific / some furry in nature, and nature.)
   
  What's your *information*? Please let me know ---- I may learn to like it!!
   
  Here's a preposed character (and information about him ---- so far):
   
   
  Name: Loop Furwalker
   
  Age: (wolf teenager ---- about the same age as a human)
   
  Height: 6 ft  9 inches
   
  Weight: 219 lbs
   
  Clothing: Likes to where modern styles or mythical outfits, or nothing at all when alone or with his many girlfriends......etc....(other styles will be listed later on, if I can figure them out!!)
   
  Backgrounds: 
   
  Loop lives in two places: (1) A big city apartment complex (mostly animals and furries, but there are some humans living nearby-----off in the distance), (2) A country home of his on devising: looks like a large southern plantation (like Gone With The Wind and/or Song Of  The South ------ same types of settings)
   
  I'll give you more information later ---- when I get the chance to..........
   
  Hope to see you sometime!!
   
  Bye reply!!
   
  (please send any attachments if you can ---- of yourself / artworks / lists.....etc.....)
   
  Just call me "Loop" for now.
   
   

       
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From loopfurwalker at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  3 10:06:25 2008
From: loopfurwalker at yahoo.com (loop furwalker)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 07:06:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: You've found one ------ read on below for details
	---------------------------------------->
In-Reply-To: <683248.98552.qm@web56401.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <369803.48525.qm@web58402.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Hi my name is "Loop".
   
  Please reply quickly so I can tell you all about myself and my characters........etc.....
   
  Thanks if you do!!
   
  (I'm a male wolf character, at least for now)
   
  bye buy and reply --------- that's how you can tell its me when I leave emails and replies....etc....
   
   

       
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From loopfurwalker at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  3 10:10:13 2008
From: loopfurwalker at yahoo.com (loop furwalker)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 07:10:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Hi,
In-Reply-To: <479B78B4.2060306@ripnet.com>
Message-ID: <664762.75044.qm@web58408.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

I can draw tigers like they were right in front of you ----- the only problem I have is, is that I don't have a scanner at present to send all my copies of drawings and texts.........etc.....
   
  (I can draw almost anything ------ rated of course)
   
  What do you do?
   
  Please let me know soon.
   
  Bye Buy and Reply ------ my signature when I'm done sending email ----- waiting for the reply.
   
   

       
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From galen at velocity.net  Mon Mar  3 11:26:33 2008
From: galen at velocity.net (FoxWolfie Galen)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:26:33 -0500
Subject: FL: You've found one ---- here I am ----- a fellow furry
	fellow!! Please pass all your furry knowledge back so I cna
	fill up *MY* files from furries from all over the USA ---- at
	least to start
In-Reply-To: <837464.62623.qm@web58404.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <495619.48799.qm@web63106.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<837464.62623.qm@web58404.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <i08os31k7akntmvr9ipsjke6hef2odg620@4ax.com>

On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 03:55:27 -0800 (PST), loop furwalker
<loopfurwalker at yahoo.com> wrote:

>   Places
>    
>   Items
>    
>   Treasures
>    
>   Vehicles

Are your aware that this is a fursuit list, and not a furry list? It's
mainly used for fursuit construction and performance advice, as well as
some other fursuit-related topics. Many members here don't even claim to be
furry. Your posts seem like they might generate a more useful response in a
furry role-playing list.  :)
-- 
FoxWolfie

From aidenislove at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  3 16:01:10 2008
From: aidenislove at yahoo.com (Aiden Raccoon)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:01:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Hi,
In-Reply-To: <664762.75044.qm@web58408.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <441416.98298.qm@web33901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hey loop.  What area are you located in RL?

loop furwalker <loopfurwalker at yahoo.com> wrote: I can draw tigers like they were right in front of you ----- the only problem I have is, is that I don't have a scanner at present to send all my copies of drawings and texts.........etc.....
   
  (I can draw almost anything ------ rated of course)
   
  What do you do?
   
  Please let me know soon.
   
  Bye Buy and Reply ------ my signature when I'm done sending email ----- waiting for the reply.
   
   
        

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From loopfurwalker at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  3 19:45:35 2008
From: loopfurwalker at yahoo.com (loop furwalker)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 16:45:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: (no subject)
Message-ID: <175267.48041.qm@web58410.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Here's my latest "gig":
   
  My character is a large male wolf (gray for now ---- no specific colors for now --- still workning on it.....etc...)
   
  The fur is wavy and bushy like it hasen't been brushed or groomed in months.
   
  The eyes and all the facial features are big (like the big-bad-wolf's)
   
  Body is muscular, but not to shapely (like the first bunch of workouts......etc....)
   
  Paws and claws are big and sharp (for the pictures / and/or costume desisns....etc...)
   
  Feet are typically big too (just like a wolf's)
   
  Tail and rump are big at the back (and the legs are long)
   
  Clothing styles: (for now) ------- completely naked or something from the 1970's
   
  Big rim glasses
   
  vest with frilled shirt
   
  pants (if any)
   
  platform shoes
   
  (jewelry and rings too ----- just on the fingers and neck so far)
   
  I don't have a name for him yet ---- I'm still working on it right now
   
  ***** more later ***** when you reply to me ------ thanks if you do
   
  Later..........

       
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From aidenislove at yahoo.com  Tue Mar  4 00:42:01 2008
From: aidenislove at yahoo.com (Aiden Raccoon)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 21:42:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <175267.48041.qm@web58410.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <475725.70371.qm@web33902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hey loop, this list is really for Fursuit construction and performance.  If you tell me what area you live, I can probably direct you to a good forum or mailing list that you may be looking for.

loop furwalker <loopfurwalker at yahoo.com> wrote: Here's my latest "gig":
   
  My character is a large male wolf (gray for now ---- no specific colors for now --- still workning on it.....etc...)
   
  The fur is wavy and bushy like it hasen't been brushed or groomed in months.
   
  The eyes and all the facial features are big (like the big-bad-wolf's)
   
  Body is muscular, but not to shapely (like the first bunch of workouts......etc....)
   
  Paws and claws are big and sharp (for the pictures / and/or costume desisns....etc...)
   
  Feet are typically big too (just like a wolf's)
   
  Tail and rump are big at the back (and the legs are long)
   
  Clothing styles: (for now) ------- completely naked or something from the 1970's
   
  Big rim glasses
   
  vest with  frilled shirt
   
  pants (if any)
   
  platform shoes
   
  (jewelry and rings too ----- just on the fingers and neck so far)
   
  I don't have a name for him yet ---- I'm still working on it right now
   
  ***** more later ***** when you reply to me ------ thanks if you do
   
  Later..........
        

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From loopfurwalker at yahoo.com  Tue Mar  4 13:26:51 2008
From: loopfurwalker at yahoo.com (loop furwalker)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:26:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Where I am and what I'm doing -------
	furwise.............fursuits galore!! Where is there a store?
	Or web site ----- I like Running Wolf Productions for
	starters ------ name and dot com at the end (just write it
	the way it is) ------ are there others? Please let me know,
	if you can ------ thanks if you do.....is this ledgible enough to
	understand? Good ---- thanks again.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1204650007.10135.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <846073.12547.qm@web58404.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

I'm presently living in keene, new hampshire (southwestern new hampshire ---- county seat).
   
  I'm going to Lakeland, Florida for a while ------- don't know how long but you can give me a list of fursuits, and fursuit typles, styles.....etc....as well as tips on helping other people/furs around the country or the world............where? When? How? Why? How often? Lists and websites......etc....
   
  (Split them up into categories), such as
   
  K-9's
   
  Felines
   
  Equines
   
  Cetaceans
   
  Dragons
   
  (other hoofed animals like deer and elk)
   
  Other fantasy creatures......etc....
   
  Space creatures
   
  "Real" animals and poeple
   
  Lists of furs.....etc.... (and their sites)
   
  More later........
   
  bye for now
   
  LOOP FURWALKER (that's me ---- at least on my sites......etc...)
   
  (Please look me up if you can ------- I'm on the mailing list now...........)
   
   

       
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From jpa2blue at yahoo.com  Tue Mar  4 13:38:37 2008
From: jpa2blue at yahoo.com (John Arroyo)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:38:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Where I am and what I'm doing -------
	furwise.............fursuits galore!! Where is there a store?
	Or web site ----- I like Running Wolf Productions for
	starters ------ name and dot com at the end (just write it
	the way it is) ------ are there others? Please let me know,
	if you can ------ thanks if you do.....is this ledgible enough to
	understand? Good ---- thanks again.
Message-ID: <91847.87764.qm@web35313.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Thu Jan  3 21:45:57 2008
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 02:45:57 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.2.1204655924.1567.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>

this is a picture-design I drew posted on my Flickr....check it out if you'd like...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/9836099 at N03/1468265365/in/set-72157602228081557/



----- Original Message ----
From: loop furwalker <loopfurwalker at yahoo.com>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2008 10:26:51 AM
Subject: FL: Where I am and what I'm doing ------- furwise.............fursuits galore!! Where is there a store? Or web site ----- I like Running Wolf Productions for starters ------ name and dot com at the end (just write it the way it is) ------ are there others? Please let me know, if you can ------ thanks if you do.....is this ledgible enough to understand? Good ---- thanks again.


I'm presently living in keene, new hampshire (southwestern new hampshire ---- county seat).
 
I'm going to Lakeland, Florida for a while ------- don't know how long but you can give me a list of fursuits, and fursuit typles, styles.....etc....as well as tips on helping other people/furs around the country or the world............where? When? How? Why? How often? Lists and websites......etc....
 
(Split them up into categories), such as
 
K-9's
 
Felines
 
Equines
 
Cetaceans
 
Dragons
 
(other hoofed animals like deer and elk)
 
Other fantasy creatures......etc....
 
Space creatures
 
"Real" animals and poeple
 
Lists of furs.....etc.... (and their sites)
 
More later........
 
bye for now
 
LOOP FURWALKER (that's me ---- at least on my sites......etc...)
 
(Please look me up if you can ------- I'm on the mailing list now...........)
 
 


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<DIV>"Real" animals and poeple</DIV>
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<DIV>Lists of furs.....etc.... (and their sites)</DIV>
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<DIV>LOOP FURWALKER (that's me ---- at least on my sites......etc...)</DIV>
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From anthrobunny at gmail.com  Tue Mar  4 13:57:40 2008
From: anthrobunny at gmail.com (Blackberry)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:57:40 -0800
Subject: FL: Where I am (edited)
In-Reply-To: <846073.12547.qm@web58404.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <846073.12547.qm@web58404.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6C8D9926-852E-4A28-8F3A-FAEDCBFDFE59@gmail.com>

I edited your subject line because it broke my email.

Are you really asking for a complete list of all fursuits in existence  
by species?

On Mar 4, 2008, at 10:26 AM, loop furwalker <loopfurwalker at yahoo.com>  
wrote:

> I'm presently living in keene, new hampshire (southwestern new  
> hampshire ---- county seat).
>
> I'm going to Lakeland, Florida for a while ------- don't know how  
> long but you can give me a list of fursuits, and fursuit typles,  
> styles.....etc....as well as tips on helping other people/furs  
> around the country or the world............where? When? How? Why?  
> How often? Lists and websites......etc....
>
> (Split them up into categories), such as
>
> K-9's
>
> Felines
>
> Equines
>
> Cetaceans
>
> Dragons
>
> (other hoofed animals like deer and elk)
>
> Other fantasy creatures......etc....
>
> Space creatures
>
> "Real" animals and poeple
>
> Lists of furs.....etc.... (and their sites)
>
> More later........
>
> bye for now
>
> LOOP FURWALKER (that's me ---- at least on my sites......etc...)
>
> (Please look me up if you can ------- I'm on the mailing list  
> now...........)
>
>
>
> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo!  
> Search.
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From delphinios at gmail.com  Tue Mar  4 14:38:42 2008
From: delphinios at gmail.com (Delphinios)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:38:42 -0600
Subject: FL: Where I am (edited)
In-Reply-To: <6C8D9926-852E-4A28-8F3A-FAEDCBFDFE59@gmail.com>
References: <846073.12547.qm@web58404.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<6C8D9926-852E-4A28-8F3A-FAEDCBFDFE59@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47CDA542.2020308@gmail.com>

That's easy! In fact, it's already been done!

http://db.fursuit.org/

Enjoy! :D

Blackberry wrote:
> I edited your subject line because it broke my email.
> 
> Are you really asking for a complete list of all fursuits in existence 
> by species?
> 
> On Mar 4, 2008, at 10:26 AM, loop furwalker <loopfurwalker at yahoo.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> I'm presently living in keene, new hampshire (southwestern new 
>> hampshire ---- county seat).
>>
>> I'm going to Lakeland, Florida for a while ------- don't know how long 
>> but you can give me a list of fursuits, and fursuit typles, 
>> styles.....etc....as well as tips on helping other people/furs around 
>> the country or the world............where? When? How? Why? How often? 
>> Lists and websites......etc....
>>
>> (Split them up into categories), such as
>>
>> K-9's
>>
>> Felines
>>
>> Equines
>>
>> Cetaceans
>>
>> Dragons
>>
>> (other hoofed animals like deer and elk)
>>
>> Other fantasy creatures......etc....
>>
>> Space creatures
>>
>> "Real" animals and poeple
>>
>> Lists of furs.....etc.... (and their sites)
>>
>> More later........
>>
>> bye for now
>>
>> LOOP FURWALKER (that's me ---- at least on my sites......etc...)
>>
>> (Please look me up if you can ------- I'm on the mailing list 
>> now...........)
>>
>>
>>


From superjay at hawkcave.com  Tue Mar  4 14:19:40 2008
From: superjay at hawkcave.com (Super Jayhawk)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 11:19:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Question about shipping fursuits/road cases for fursuit travel
In-Reply-To: <47CDA542.2020308@gmail.com>
References: <846073.12547.qm@web58404.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<6C8D9926-852E-4A28-8F3A-FAEDCBFDFE59@gmail.com>
	<47CDA542.2020308@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0803041111340.16015@bigjay.hawkcave.com>

Hi everyone,

Believe it or not, for the first time since 2003 I'm going to actually fly 
to a con again.  I said "never again" nearly five years ago after the 
luggage muncher machine at O'Hare crushed my Action-packer fursuit box 
both going there and coming back home, as well as the TSA being unkind to 
my fursuit.  So while I plan to fly, I'm not trusting my fursuit to the 
airlines or the TSA, especially my new one.

So first question-- what shipping companies are good for shipping a large 
oversized fursuit box across the country?  And can you get them to pick up 
from the hotel?  I would need to insure it for the full cost of the 
costume, at least.  Any preferences or experience on this one?

Also does anyone have any good companies that sell road cases that can 
stand up to the abuse of travel and protect a fursuit?  Rubbermaid doesn't 
make Action Packer containers that fit the dimensions of my new suit 
(especially with the new wings) so I'd like to ask if anyone knows of good 
places that sell road cases or other shipping-level containers in 
different sizes.  Thanks for any info you may have!


_____________________________________________________________________
Super Jayhawk, Bird in Spandex


 					superjay at hawkcave.com
_____________________________________________________________________


From helvetica at dslextreme.com  Tue Mar  4 14:50:36 2008
From: helvetica at dslextreme.com (Phillip Burgess)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 11:50:36 -0800
Subject: FL: Question about shipping fursuits/road cases for fursuit
	travel
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0803041111340.16015@bigjay.hawkcave.com>
References: <846073.12547.qm@web58404.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<6C8D9926-852E-4A28-8F3A-FAEDCBFDFE59@gmail.com>
	<47CDA542.2020308@gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0803041111340.16015@bigjay.hawkcave.com>
Message-ID: <EBB7DCB4-5C75-4981-83B2-8AD2CE094BBD@dslextreme.com>

Howdy!

Not sure about optimal choice of shippers.  However, Seriously Fucking  
Heavy Duty road cases turn up all the time at the likes of Weird  
Stuff, Excess Solutions, etc.  (Unfortunately they're also Seriously  
Fucking Heavy.  But usually have wheels.)  Depending on the size you  
need, there may be a suitable Pelican case (Seriously Fucking  
Expensive).

About how big would you need for the suit in question?

-- Phil


From helvetica at dslextreme.com  Tue Mar  4 15:00:30 2008
From: helvetica at dslextreme.com (Phillip Burgess)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:00:30 -0800
Subject: FL: Question about shipping fursuits/road cases for fursuit
	travel
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0803041111340.16015@bigjay.hawkcave.com>
References: <846073.12547.qm@web58404.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<6C8D9926-852E-4A28-8F3A-FAEDCBFDFE59@gmail.com>
	<47CDA542.2020308@gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0803041111340.16015@bigjay.hawkcave.com>
Message-ID: <93F95878-D2EC-45AF-9CBB-D7E0D414EB17@dslextreme.com>

Oy!  Sorry for all the "effage" in that last message.  Thought I was  
replying to SJ directly.

*blush*

-- Phil


From fox at flyingfox.biz  Tue Mar  4 15:46:13 2008
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:46:13 -0500
Subject: FL: Question about shipping fursuits/road cases for fursuit
	travel
In-Reply-To: <93F95878-D2EC-45AF-9CBB-D7E0D414EB17@dslextreme.com>
References: <846073.12547.qm@web58404.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<6C8D9926-852E-4A28-8F3A-FAEDCBFDFE59@gmail.com>
	<47CDA542.2020308@gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0803041111340.16015@bigjay.hawkcave.com>
	<93F95878-D2EC-45AF-9CBB-D7E0D414EB17@dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <4C53AF4F-C55F-45E0-9502-A0E6C760EC88@flyingfox.biz>

oh that's funny!  that brightened my day man =)
*hug*


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



On Mar 4, 2008, at 3:00 PM, Phillip Burgess wrote:

Oy!  Sorry for all the "effage" in that last message.  Thought I was
replying to SJ directly.

*blush*

-- Phil

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From antimon at earthlink.net  Tue Mar  4 16:33:02 2008
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:33:02 -0500
Subject: FL: Where I am and what I'm doing
	-------furwise.............fursuits galore!! Where is there a
	store?Or web site ----- I like Running Wolf Productions
	forstarters ------ name and dot com at the end (just write
	itthe way it is) ------ are there others? Ple
In-Reply-To: <846073.12547.qm@web58404.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <846073.12547.qm@web58404.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8B8510AC944D4BC1B31BEAC56B476115@AntimonPC>

Not to be rude or anything, but what exactly do you want and why?  I haven't seen a productive or on topic email from you yet.

Tips on helping who how?  a list of fursuits?  A lot of this stuff is online, check the fursuiter LJ comm, check the fursuit database fur-suit.org
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: loop furwalker 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 1:26 PM
  Subject: FL: Where I am and what I'm doing -------furwise.............fursuits galore!! Where is there a store?Or web site ----- I like Running Wolf Productions forstarters ------ name and dot com at the end (just write itthe way it is) ------ are there others? Please let me know,if you can ------ thanks if you do.....is this ledgible enough tounderstand? Good ---- thanks again.


  I'm presently living in keene, new hampshire (southwestern new hampshire ---- county seat).

  I'm going to Lakeland, Florida for a while ------- don't know how long but you can give me a list of fursuits, and fursuit typles, styles.....etc....as well as tips on helping other people/furs around the country or the world............where? When? How? Why? How often? Lists and websites......etc....
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From antimon at earthlink.net  Tue Mar  4 16:36:42 2008
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:36:42 -0500
Subject: FL: Where I am and what I'm doing
	-------furwise.............fursuits galore!! Where is there a
	store?Or web site ----- I like Running Wolf Productions
	forstarters ------ name and dot com at the end (just write
	itthe way it is) ------ are there others?
In-Reply-To: <91847.87764.qm@web35313.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <91847.87764.qm@web35313.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <71F0ADE3BA5C4794BABC4928D77F64C1@AntimonPC>

It depends on the maker anywhere from $900-$3000 depending on options and such.

budget around $2000 and discuss price with the person you are comisioning.  You'll probably get it for less from half the makers, and maybe a little more from the other half.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Arroyo 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 1:38 PM
  Subject: Re: FL: Where I am and what I'm doing -------furwise.............fursuits galore!! Where is there a store?Or web site ----- I like Running Wolf Productions forstarters ------ name and dot com at the end (just write itthe way it is) ------ are there others? Please let me know,if you can ------ thanks if you do.....is this ledgible enough tounderstand? Good ---- thanks again.


  From J2 AKA ^FOX TAILS^ : Hey I finally found the website that sells the style fursuits that I like...however, it seams that they are booked in orders all the way until next year :( . So because of that, thier pricing page has been temporarily blocked. Does anybody know what is the average cost to buy a suit from these suit makers? I really really want to have my Fox suit made, and I will probably have the $$$ for it since I am getting a rather large tax refund soon :) . 



  this is a picture-design I drew posted on my Flickr....check it out if you'd like...



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From bob at ginkosoft.com  Tue Mar  4 16:45:59 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:45:59 -0800
Subject: FL: Question about shipping fursuits/road cases for
	fursuit	travel
In-Reply-To: <93F95878-D2EC-45AF-9CBB-D7E0D414EB17@dslextreme.com>
References: <846073.12547.qm@web58404.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
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> Oy!  Sorry for all the "effage" in that last message.  Thought I was
> replying to SJ directly.

That's seriously effin alright.

I suppose luggage wear depends on the airlines. I had only minor damage 
with Alaska Airlines and they didn't even charge for bulk. 
Unfortunately, they're west-coast only. When I went to MFF, I shipped 
the costume to a friend who was local to the area in - no kidding - a 
standard cardboard moving box via USPS, and it arrived no problem. I 
used the soft body, gloves, and clothes to cushion the head in the 
middle of the box.

If shipping, you'll probably not be paying for weight as much as "Bulk 
weight," which is simply, "This box is so big, we're gonna charge you by 
volume." So when I ship next time, I'm going to see about using a 
smaller box and pack more compactly. Perhaps fly with the hands and feet 
with me, and only ship the more fragile bits.

I've never shipped to a hotel, but my concern would be how long they 
would hold onto it before you show up. If you ship with a long ship 
time, it's cheaper but there's the risk it'll show up way too early. And 
if you ship for a faster delivery time, it quickly becomes prohibitively 
expensive. I also keep imagining the poor hotel staff being innundated 
with large, bulky boxes.

And yes, of course, insurance is vital. Because the memories and times 
makes a costume priceless. But when they ask for value, put your pinky 
up to your mouth and say, "A billion dollars!" It never gets old.

--BobCoon

From jpa2blue at yahoo.com  Tue Mar  4 16:52:16 2008
From: jpa2blue at yahoo.com (John Arroyo)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:52:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Where I am and what I'm doing
	-------furwise.............fursuits galore!! Where is there a
	store?Or web site ----- I like Running Wolf Productions
	forstarters ------ name and dot com at the end (just write
	itthe way it is) ------ are there others?
Message-ID: <393130.47769.qm@web35302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

How stupid of me, I forgot to include the fursuit website that I am interested in...
http://www.mixedcandymascots.com/

Also, does anybody know if this fursuit maker offers the heads with movable jaws? If I am going to get a fursuit, im gonna try to get the whole shabang....claws, paws, tinged color fur, lycra skin on the inside, movable jaw, and whatever else there is :) .



----- Original Message ----
From: Antimon <antimon at earthlink.net>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2008 1:36:42 PM
Subject: Re: FL: Where I am and what I'm doing -------furwise.............fursuits galore!! Where is there a store?Or web site ----- I like Running Wolf Productions forstarters ------ name and dot com at the end (just write itthe way it is) ------ are there others?


It depends on the maker anywhere from $900-$3000 depending on options and such.
 
budget around $2000 and discuss price with the person you are comisioning.  You'll probably get it for less from half the makers, and maybe a little more from the other half.
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: John Arroyo 
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: FL: Where I am and what I'm doing -------furwise.............fursuits galore!! Where is there a store?Or web site ----- I like Running Wolf Productions forstarters ------ name and dot com at the end (just write itthe way it is) ------ are there others? Please let me know,if you can ------ thanks if you do.....is this ledgible enough tounderstand? Good ---- thanks again.



From antimon at earthlink.net  Tue Mar  4 17:08:37 2008
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 17:08:37 -0500
Subject: FL: Question about shipping fursuits/road cases
	forfursuit	travel
In-Reply-To: <1204667168.1D5E10DB@fb8.dngr.org>
References: <846073.12547.qm@web58404.mail.re3.yahoo.com><93F95878-D2EC-45AF-9CBB-D7E0D414EB17@dslextreme.com><1204665542.B82EAFE@bb11.dngr.org><1204667162.33AB06F4@ff4.dngr.org>
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With the exception of the time when they lost my suit for 24 hours, I've 
never had an issue with airlines giving my suits excessive abuse, sure the 
action packers get scratched up or their corners based in, but that is why I 
use them, the case takes the abuse the suits come out undamaged.  The only 
thing that sucked is ti was poorign rain on my way to MFF and my suits got 
wet cus they packer was so over stuffed that the lid wasn't makign a solid 
seal and soem fo my air brushign ran plus the suits got a lil damp.  but 
nothign too severe.

As much as I'm paying for a ticket to a con, I want the airlines to take 
care of my luggage, I have issues paying for a ticket THEN spending $50 plus 
to ship my  suits on top of it... Airlines would have to give me a discount 
for not checkign any bags for me to consdier that option, oplus i perfer not 
havign the suits out of my location longer then I have to, having it go on 
an airplane with me, and only being apart for a few ghours makes me much 
more comfortabel then not seeing it for 3-5 days PLUS I dont like leaving 
them packed up for that long as tightly as I pack them. nor do I really want 
them to get that much more funky on the return trip.

My 24 gal action packers 2 gets me 2-4 suits to a con dependign on the 
suits, and it doesn't cost me any extra, though if more airlines adopt the ` 
bag per custoerm rule, I may have to rethink that.

You can brign bigger bags with Hocky bags and soft sidded luggage but I wont 
trust my suits to them the way bags are handled.


From antimon at earthlink.net  Tue Mar  4 17:16:30 2008
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 17:16:30 -0500
Subject: FL: Where I am and what I'm
	doing-------furwise.............fursuits galore!! Where is
	there astore?Or web site ----- I like Running Wolf
	Productionsforstarters ------ name and dot com at the end
	(just writeitthe way it is) ------ are there others?
In-Reply-To: <393130.47769.qm@web35302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <393130.47769.qm@web35302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B6EC2DA7AE6E4C8D91F863981327030A@AntimonPC>

I was pretty sure thats who you were interested in, and my advice still stands as far as pricing.  They will give you an actual quote once you send in your concept art, their prices may change between now and then thats why they aren't posted to the website I believe.  Yes they do moving jaws, and air brushing and body paddign and pretty much anythign you could want.  You need the 30% (I think) when your commision is accepted.  to be safe I'd say have atleast 700 to put down if you're planing a lot of bells and whistles

I have 3 suits soon to be 4 from them, excelent builders, unsurpassed customer service


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Arroyo 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 4:52 PM
  Subject: Re: FL: Where I am and what I'm doing-------furwise.............fursuits galore!! Where is there astore?Or web site ----- I like Running Wolf Productionsforstarters ------ name and dot com at the end (just writeitthe way it is) ------ are there others?


  How stupid of me, I forgot to include the fursuit website that I am interested in...

  http://www.mixedcandymascots.com/



  Also, does anybody know if this fursuit maker offers the heads with movable jaws? If I am going to get a fursuit, im gonna try to get the whole shabang....claws, paws, tinged color fur, lycra skin on the inside, movable jaw, and whatever else there is :) .
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From wallyfox98 at hotmail.com  Tue Mar  4 19:21:05 2008
From: wallyfox98 at hotmail.com (Wally_Wabbit/Stephen H./Wallyfox)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:21:05 -0500
Subject: FL: Chinese made fursuits
Message-ID: <BAY121-W246000413BEFDC3218446ED0110@phx.gbl>


Has anyone here purchased a costume directly from China (ie the cheap ones on EBay with $80- shipping)?
 
I currently have a Chinese made tiger suit that another fur was dissatsified with (they got it on ebay and re-sold it to me) it looks ok but it does need a little work.  
 
I am looking into possibly picking up a stock costume that looks decent for a low price (would like another suit but can't really afford a custom one at the moment).  
 
Before I take the Chinese option off the table I was wondering if anyone had a decent experience with one?
 
Thanks/Snugs
 
Wally_Wabbit
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From aucune at gmail.com  Tue Mar  4 19:49:05 2008
From: aucune at gmail.com (Benoit Houle)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:49:05 -0500
Subject: FL: Chinese made fursuits
In-Reply-To: <BAY121-W246000413BEFDC3218446ED0110@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY121-W246000413BEFDC3218446ED0110@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <D606FE6CCBD1427DA8180CCF15D95D81@GVL22575W2K>

Well I bought one too, while not being dissastified by it (you can't beat the price)... irt required a litlle work....

I have of of the fox like one, the tail didn't please me at all but I am reworking it ... and the feet part where mostly shoe covers 
I am working on those too ....

But I'd say for anyone who doesn't have the time and money to make or buy a custom one ; they are a viable alternative


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Wally_Wabbit/Stephen H./Wallyfox 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:21 PM
  Subject: FL: Chinese made fursuits


  Has anyone here purchased a costume directly from China (ie the cheap ones on EBay with $80- shipping)?
   
  I currently have a Chinese made tiger suit that another fur was dissatsified with (they got it on ebay and re-sold it to me) it looks ok but it does need a little work.  
   
  I am looking into possibly picking up a stock costume that looks decent for a low price (would like another suit but can't really afford a custom one at the moment).  
   
  Before I take the Chinese option off the table I was wondering if anyone had a decent experience with one?
   
  Thanks/Snugs
   
  Wally_Wabbit

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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Tue Mar  4 20:08:35 2008
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:08:35 -0500
Subject: FL: Chinese made fursuits
In-Reply-To: <D606FE6CCBD1427DA8180CCF15D95D81@GVL22575W2K>
References: <BAY121-W246000413BEFDC3218446ED0110@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <577261b40803041708h5c6d505x2c7029667e7aee2a@mail.gmail.com>

What are you guys talking about, does anyfur have a link so I can see what
these suits look like.  Granted I have a full suit of my own, but I'm
curious as to what you're talking about.
-Foxwolf 9-Tails
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From bob at ginkosoft.com  Tue Mar  4 20:20:19 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 17:20:19 -0800
Subject: FL: Question about shipping fursuits/road cases
	forfursuit	travel
In-Reply-To: <7F92575D016E4491B96E4A753CE4517A@AntimonPC>
References: <846073.12547.qm@web58404.mail.re3.yahoo.com><93F95878-D2EC-45AF-9CBB-D7E0D414EB17@dslextreme.com><1204665542.B82EAFE@bb11.dngr.org><1204667162.33AB06F4@ff4.dngr.org>
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> My 24 gal action packers 2 gets me 2-4 suits

Part of it was that I've got a Marylen's, which is more in the 
fluffy/padded/big/bulky/mascot spectrum of things, especially the huge 
head, and needed something more like a 55 gallon thing. With less bulky 
suits, yah, some of my advice doesn't apply.

>  The only thing that sucked is it was poorign rain on my way to MFF and 
> my suits got wet cus...

The other thing I forgot to mention was to put all the parts in large 
garbage bags, preferably clear. Specifically, two bags, one facing 
front, the other facing rear, with lots of overlap.

Not only does it protect against some moisture and smells (Imagine if 
the fabreeze bottle broke!), but it forms a weak seal. So then you can 
hand-work out the air and effectively vacuum-pack it, reducing a lot of 
bulk before they go in.

From wallyfox98 at hotmail.com  Tue Mar  4 20:24:18 2008
From: wallyfox98 at hotmail.com (Wally_Wabbit/Stephen H./Wallyfox)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:24:18 -0500
Subject: FL: Chinese made fursuits
In-Reply-To: <577261b40803041708h5c6d505x2c7029667e7aee2a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY121-W246000413BEFDC3218446ED0110@phx.gbl>
	<D606FE6CCBD1427DA8180CCF15D95D81@GVL22575W2K> 
	<577261b40803041708h5c6d505x2c7029667e7aee2a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY121-W2090679DB82BEBB804415D0110@phx.gbl>


http://stores.ebay.com/Dreamweavers-Factory
 
One of many places selling these suits
 
snugs
 
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:08:35 -0500From: foxwolfac at gmail.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: Chinese made fursuitsWhat are you guys talking about, does anyfur have a link so I can see what these suits look like.  Granted I have a full suit of my own, but I'm curious as to what you're talking about. 

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From jpa2blue at yahoo.com  Tue Mar  4 21:24:53 2008
From: jpa2blue at yahoo.com (John Arroyo)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:24:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Where I am and what I'm
	doing-------furwise.............fursuits galore!! Where is
	there astore?Or web site ----- I like Running Wolf
	Productionsforstarters ------ name and dot com at the end
	(just writeitthe way it is) ------ are there others?
Message-ID: <754063.22849.qm@web35312.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Well that settles it then. If thier prices don't exceed $1700, im good. Sad thing is I may not get it until late 2009 :(, ill be 22 going on 23...im 21 now...and like my age, I want it now :).



----- Original Message ----
From: Antimon <antimon at earthlink.net>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2008 2:16:30 PM
Subject: Re: FL: Where I am and what I'm doing-------furwise.............fursuits galore!! Where is there astore?Or web site ----- I like Running Wolf Productionsforstarters ------ name and dot com at the end (just writeitthe way it is) ------ are there others?


I was pretty sure thats who you were interested in, and my advice still stands as far as pricing.  They will give you an actual quote once you send in your concept art, their prices may change between now and then thats why they aren't posted to the website I believe.  Yes they do moving jaws, and air brushing and body paddign and pretty much anythign you could want.  You need the 30% (I think) when your commision is accepted.  to be safe I'd say have atleast 700 to put down if you're planing a lot of bells and whistles
 
I have 3 suits soon to be 4 from them, excelent builders, unsurpassed customer service
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: John Arroyo 
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: FL: Where I am and what I'm doing-------furwise.............fursuits galore!! Where is there astore?Or web site ----- I like Running Wolf Productionsforstarters ------ name and dot com at the end (just writeitthe way it is) ------ are there others?


How stupid of me, I forgot to include the fursuit website that I am interested in...
http://www.mixedcandymascots.com/
 
Also, does anybody know if this fursuit maker offers the heads with movable jaws? If I am going to get a fursuit, im gonna try to get the whole shabang....claws, paws, tinged color fur, lycra skin on the inside, movable jaw, and whatever else there is :) .


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From wallyfox98 at hotmail.com  Tue Mar  4 21:42:31 2008
From: wallyfox98 at hotmail.com (Wally_Wabbit/Stephen H./Wallyfox)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 21:42:31 -0500
Subject: FL: Where I am.........
In-Reply-To: <754063.22849.qm@web35312.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <754063.22849.qm@web35312.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY121-W18620DCF836DAC82ACAE68D0110@phx.gbl>


Helpful Hint:
 
You may want to shorten the subject line of this topic when making replies in the future.   I have shortened your subject line to give a good example.:)
 
Long subect lines like these cause problems for some email users and most of what was in your subject line belongs in the email itself.
 
In the future try sbuject lines like:
 
"The fursuit I want"
"How much do fursuits cost?"
Etc.
 
 
Wally_Wabbit
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From 12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us  Tue Mar  4 21:55:58 2008
From: 12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us (Arthur Hamilton)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:55:58 -0700
Subject: FL: Are you out there OZ Kangaroo!!!
Message-ID: <1204685758.1fdbb14012AHAMILTON1@Davis.k12.ut.us>



-----Original Message-----
From: luke sckrabei <sckrabei2 at hotmail.com>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:48:45 +0000
Subject: FL: Are you out there OZ Kangaroo!!!


Hey OZ,
 
Sent a few messages to 3 addresses and haven't recieved a reply.
 
Luke.
 
 holly crap, oz is here too, hez on youtube too!!!p.s.annyone have some scrap fur for sale?
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From m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de  Wed Mar  5 03:07:16 2008
From: m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de (Markus Kalkbrenner - Maskottchen Germany)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 09:07:16 +0100
Subject: FL: Chinese made fursuits
In-Reply-To: <D606FE6CCBD1427DA8180CCF15D95D81@GVL22575W2K>
References: <BAY121-W246000413BEFDC3218446ED0110@phx.gbl>
	<D606FE6CCBD1427DA8180CCF15D95D81@GVL22575W2K>
Message-ID: <101599980.20080305090716@maskottchen-germany.de>

Hi
I tryed and bought one for my rental business.
To say waste of money - cheap fur. Bad made, Head out of Polystyrol.
The whole thing is good for a mexican pinata.

But the relayable and they deliver the bought stuff.

Grettings

Atalon




From anthrobunny at gmail.com  Wed Mar  5 10:52:53 2008
From: anthrobunny at gmail.com (Blackberry)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 07:52:53 -0800
Subject: FL: Where I am (edited)
In-Reply-To: <47CDA542.2020308@gmail.com>
References: <846073.12547.qm@web58404.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<6C8D9926-852E-4A28-8F3A-FAEDCBFDFE59@gmail.com>
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On Mar 4, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Delphinios <delphinios at gmail.com> wrote:

> That's easy! In fact, it's already been done!
>
> http://db.fursuit.org/
>
> Enjoy! :D
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Awesome!  I guess I should add mine.


From francisco-sender-6f5fe9 at vulpes.net  Wed Mar  5 15:05:14 2008
From: francisco-sender-6f5fe9 at vulpes.net (Francisco Azinsan)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:05:14 -0600
Subject: FL: FC2009 Announcement time! Theme! Hotel Reservations! Dealers
	Room!
Message-ID: <20080305200514.GA63723@critter.net>

I know that many of you have been anxiously waiting these, so here they are!

Theme
Our theme for 2009 will be Surf Safari! So, catch a wave and hang-ten off
the shores of a Polynesian isle, or hit the beach and grab a mojito under
the palm trees, listening to the call of tropical birds.

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From bdbfox at outgun.com  Wed Mar  5 16:23:19 2008
From: bdbfox at outgun.com (Damian K)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 16:23:19 -0500
Subject: FL: Chinese made fursuits
Message-ID: <20080305212319.4B3B3233C0@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com>

Remember to look closely at what you're buying with those guys. Many are not made of "real fur" upon closer inspection. It's either that super short fur, some sort of velor or a thin fleece.

-Damian K.


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Markus Kalkbrenner - Maskottchen Germany" <m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de>
> To: "Benoit Houle" <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
> Subject: Re: FL: Chinese made fursuits
> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 09:07:16 +0100
> 
> 
> Hi
> I tryed and bought one for my rental business.
> To say waste of money - cheap fur. Bad made, Head out of Polystyrol.
> The whole thing is good for a mexican pinata.
> 
> But the relayable and they deliver the bought stuff.
> 
> Grettings
> 
> Atalon
> 
> 
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From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Sat Mar  8 15:33:09 2008
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 20:33:09 +0000
Subject: FL: Furring advice needed
Message-ID: <BAY101-W555B1C711D8741FFEF4C4AA90C0@phx.gbl>


Just the other day I got my fur to finally finish on my suit. My question is: what is the best way(s) to go about making patterns for furring my head, balaclava type. Here is a picture of the head thues far, but mind that it is a picture that was taken with my cell phone and was edited some to get a rough idea of what I wantit to look like. http://data.furaffinity.net/art/shadow-da-wolf/1204613847.shadow-da-wolf_head.jpg 
 
Thanks for any help and suggestions that any of you may provide to me for my work to come.
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From bdbfox at outgun.com  Sat Mar  8 16:18:38 2008
From: bdbfox at outgun.com (Damian K)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:18:38 -0500
Subject: FL: Hi-4 looking for some responsible,
 dedicated fursuiters in the NY/NJ/CT area.
Message-ID: <20080308211838.34699CBE77@ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com>

Hi-4 entertainment, the volunteer fursuiting group based around the New York Metro Area (but doing some gigs a considerable distance beyond it) is always open to responsible, dedicated fursuiters who would like to use their suits for good causes such as community events and fundraisers. 

We are entering our our fourth year of volunteer public performance. Last year we did between one and five gigs each for sixteen different charities (plus a few fun non-charity events). If you're into helping out check out out website and send an email.

http://www.hi-4.org

-Damian

P.s. I know this is not the first call posted here, but the last one came over a year ago and a lot of new fursuiters have joined since then.

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From: cleverlilminx at yahoo.com (Wendy Wassmer)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 13:25:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Hi-4 looking for some responsible,
	dedicated fursuiters in the NY/NJ/CT area.
In-Reply-To: <20080308211838.34699CBE77@ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <922194.8058.qm@web65504.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

Is there a chapter in PA by any chance? 
       
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From bdbfox at outgun.com  Sat Mar  8 16:32:27 2008
From: bdbfox at outgun.com (Damian K)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:32:27 -0500
Subject: FL: Hi-4 looking for some responsible,
 dedicated fursuiters in the NY/NJ/CT area.
Message-ID: <20080308213227.104CECBE77@ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com>

Not that I know of, but maybe someone else on the list has something cooking in PA. We do go pretty far into West NJ sometimes so if you live in east PA it's worth joining Hi-4.

You can also contact me privately or consult the list for advice if you want to start a similar volunteer group in your area.

-Damian K.

> ----- Original Message -----
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> Subject: Re: FL: Hi-4 looking for some responsible,	dedicated fursuiters in the NY/NJ/CT area.
> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 13:25:18 -0800 (PST)
> 
> 
> Is there a chapter in PA by any chance?
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From aucune at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 17:10:41 2008
From: aucune at gmail.com (Benoit Houle)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 17:10:41 -0400
Subject: FL: Chinese made fursuits
In-Reply-To: <20080305212319.4B3B3233C0@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20080305212319.4B3B3233C0@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <9F1BE993E66840E8B3085B8D706430A1@GVL22575W2K>

Well yes .... it is very short fur or fleece, but at least until I finish my 
real fursuit, it is something to wear....

and I was pretty lucky on the price I see now a smiliar suit to the one I 
bought

http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-adult-Professional-fox-Mascot-Costume_W0QQitemZ300197861529QQihZ020QQcategoryZ105418QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem

is costing double what I paid now .... I had mine for 79$ dollar shipping 
included....


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Damian K" <bdbfox at outgun.com>
To: "M.Kalkbrenner" <m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de>; 
<fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: FL: Chinese made fursuits


> Remember to look closely at what you're buying with those guys. Many are 
> not made of "real fur" upon closer inspection. It's either that super 
> short fur, some sort of velor or a thin fleece.
>
> -Damian K.
>
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Markus Kalkbrenner - Maskottchen Germany" 
>> <m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de>
>> To: "Benoit Houle" <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
>> Subject: Re: FL: Chinese made fursuits
>> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 09:07:16 +0100
>>
>>
>> Hi
>> I tryed and bought one for my rental business.
>> To say waste of money - cheap fur. Bad made, Head out of Polystyrol.
>> The whole thing is good for a mexican pinata.
>>
>> But the relayable and they deliver the bought stuff.
>>
>> Grettings
>>
>> Atalon
>>
>>
>>
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From camstone at dirtdeninn.com  Mon Mar 10 23:32:23 2008
From: camstone at dirtdeninn.com (Camstone)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:32:23 -0400
Subject: FL: Fursuiter Actors - RCFM Needs you!
In-Reply-To: <BAY101-W555B1C711D8741FFEF4C4AA90C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY101-W555B1C711D8741FFEF4C4AA90C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <47D5FD47.4000005@dirtdeninn.com>

Hi everyone, Camstone Fox here - Programming Director for Rocket City 
Fur Meet in Huntsville Alabama, May 23 through the 25th.

And we've made some changes in plans at Rocket City Fur Meet ( 
http://www.rcfm.net ), and our good friend OldFreek is now running the 
Furry Variety Show at RCFM this year, and we've moved the show to a 
prime spot on Saturday!

But, we need more acts to fill the time slot we have set aside! So if 
you can pull together even a short skit between now and Saturday, May 
24th - and will be attending RCFM - we'd really appreciate hearing from 
you as soon as possible, and love to see it! It doesn't even need to be 
more than 90 seconds long!

Thank you for your time, and sorry to bother anyone - but we didn't want 
to miss any potential beginning performers!

Please contact oldfreek at oldfreek1 at yahoo.com or myself at 
camstone.fox at gmail.com if you are at all interested.

Camstone Fox
Programming Chair for RCFM 2008 and fellow fursuiter.

From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Tue Mar 11 02:33:31 2008
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:33:31 +0000
Subject: FL: Fursuiter Actors - RCFM Needs you!
In-Reply-To: <47D5FD47.4000005@dirtdeninn.com>
References: <BAY101-W555B1C711D8741FFEF4C4AA90C0@phx.gbl>
	<47D5FD47.4000005@dirtdeninn.com>
Message-ID: <BAY101-W3191C8E5BA92A9C6FA0BE4A90F0@phx.gbl>


Sorry that I can't, I'll be at RMFC that weekend.> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:32:23 -0400> From: camstone at dirtdeninn.com> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> Subject: FL: Fursuiter Actors - RCFM Needs you!> > Hi everyone, Camstone Fox here - Programming Director for Rocket City > Fur Meet in Huntsville Alabama, May 23 through the 25th.> > And we've made some changes in plans at Rocket City Fur Meet ( > http://www.rcfm.net ), and our good friend OldFreek is now running the > Furry Variety Show at RCFM this year, and we've moved the show to a > prime spot on Saturday!> > But, we need more acts to fill the time slot we have set aside! So if > you can pull together even a short skit between now and Saturday, May > 24th - and will be attending RCFM - we'd really appreciate hearing from > you as soon as possible, and love to see it! It doesn't even need to be > more than 90 seconds long!> > Thank you for your time, and sorry to bother anyone - but we didn't want > to miss any potential beginning performers!> > Please contact oldfreek at oldfreek1 at yahoo.com or myself at > camstone.fox at gmail.com if you are at all interested.> > Camstone Fox> Programming Chair for RCFM 2008 and fellow fursuiter.> _______________________________________________> _______________________________________________> Fursuit Mail list.> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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From loopfurwalker at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 12 19:44:39 2008
From: loopfurwalker at yahoo.com (loop furwalker)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:44:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 23, Issue 10
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1205251202.14199.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <344910.57078.qm@web58408.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Lions, tigers, and bears ----- oh my!!
   
  Do you have and pics or suggestions about them ----- kale/female characters......etc.....
   
  Please send attachments if/when you can ------ or names of websites and/or files for me too look at  ----- just follow the instructions for the fursuits.com......etc....like I do.
   
  See you when you reply to me.....................
   
  Fan of fursuits and all kinds of furry art.......etc....don't worry: I'm not a pervert or a furvert!!
   
  (Maybe I am ------ I tend to drool at the costumes I've seen on the web...........)
   
   

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From bdbfox at outgun.com  Wed Mar 12 20:14:50 2008
From: bdbfox at outgun.com (Damian K)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:14:50 -0500
Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 23, Issue 10
Message-ID: <20080313001450.E0DF47B865@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>

Is something wrong with your period key?


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "loop furwalker" <loopfurwalker at yahoo.com>
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 23, Issue 10
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:44:39 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> 
> Lions, tigers, and bears ----- oh my!!
> 
>    Do you have and pics or suggestions about them ----- kale/female 
> characters......etc.....
> 
>    Please send attachments if/when you can ------ or names of 
> websites and/or files for me too look at  ----- just follow the 
> instructions for the fursuits.com......etc....like I do.
> 
>    See you when you reply to me.....................
> 
>    Fan of fursuits and all kinds of furry art.......etc....don't 
> worry: I'm not a pervert or a furvert!!
> 
>    (Maybe I am ------ I tend to drool at the costumes I've seen on 
> the web...........)
> 
> 
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From loopfurwalker at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 17 16:39:30 2008
From: loopfurwalker at yahoo.com (loop furwalker)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:39:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Here's another fursuit idea I've got.....................check
	it out
Message-ID: <238688.99040.qm@web58411.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

A big, hairy, muscular lion with a broad chest (and abs), big/muscular lower body features (rump, tail, genitals.....etc....), plus long legs and sharp claws for the paws and feet.....etc....
   
  Please reply soon.

       
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From anthrobunny at gmail.com  Mon Mar 17 16:47:23 2008
From: anthrobunny at gmail.com (Blackberry)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:47:23 -0700
Subject: FL: Here's another fursuit idea I've
	got.....................check it out
In-Reply-To: <238688.99040.qm@web58411.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <238688.99040.qm@web58411.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <982832d90803171347m2b74c0d3l12847a468410011f@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 1:39 PM, loop furwalker <loopfurwalker at yahoo.com> wrote:
> A big, hairy, muscular lion with a broad chest (and abs), big/muscular lower
> body features [etc....]

Sounds great!  I say go ahead and get started on it.

But... you may wish to remember that this is a G-rated list.  There
are other places where you can get advice on building other things.

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From wallyfox98 at hotmail.com  Mon Mar 17 17:59:26 2008
From: wallyfox98 at hotmail.com (Wally_Wabbit/Stephen H./Wallyfox)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:59:26 -0400
Subject: FL: Here's another fursuit idea I've
 got.....................check	it out
In-Reply-To: <238688.99040.qm@web58411.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <238688.99040.qm@web58411.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY121-W531FF72D556307FCB0D677D0050@phx.gbl>


I don't think this post belongs on this list.  This list is not of a sexual/fetish nature.  You may want to try reading the list rules prior to posting.
 
thanks
 
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Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:39:30 -0700From: loopfurwalker at yahoo.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: FL: Here's another fursuit idea I've got.....................check it out
A big, hairy, muscular lion with a broad chest (and abs), big/muscular lower body features (rump, tail, genitals.....etc....), plus long legs and sharp claws for the paws and feet.....etc....
 
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From the_soulwolf at hotmail.com  Mon Mar 17 19:00:06 2008
From: the_soulwolf at hotmail.com (SoulWolf .)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:00:06 -0400
Subject: FL: A question of heads
In-Reply-To: <238688.99040.qm@web58411.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <238688.99040.qm@web58411.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY121-W3857A253127681239BB9CBFE050@phx.gbl>


Hello all, I asually just lurk on the list but thought I'd toss this out there.   I've been seeing more and more fursuit heads made in the balaclava style.  I've been making my heads from foam and plastic mesh and I was wondering what everyone thinks of the balaclava style?  Pros, cons, opinions?  Are they easy to clean?  Durable?  I look forward to reading everyone's thoughts on the subject, as I might make my next head may be in this style.
 
Thanks
 
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From sean.wally at gmail.com  Mon Mar 17 21:37:18 2008
From: sean.wally at gmail.com (Sean Wally)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:37:18 -0700
Subject: FL: A question of heads
In-Reply-To: <BAY121-W3857A253127681239BB9CBFE050@phx.gbl>
References: <238688.99040.qm@web58411.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<BAY121-W3857A253127681239BB9CBFE050@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <2ff545310803171837t5910b30ct9f02688ba004dbdc@mail.gmail.com>

The first head I made was carved down from a large foam block, my second was
made using plastic mesh and my third was made using a balaclava.  I'm now
working on my fourth head and  again I'm using a balaclava because I was
happy enough with the results I got the last time.  With out a doubt, the
balaclava based head was much more comfortable for me to wear than the mesh
based one.  I don't know how they compare in terms of durability, I tend not
to kick my heads around very much.  That said, first of my balaclava based
heads is pretty robust IMHO.

Of the three methods I've tried so far I'm very pleased with the results
I've been able to get while building up heads using a balaclava.  I will
probably not use a mesh foundation again.

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:00 PM, SoulWolf . <the_soulwolf at hotmail.com>
wrote:

>  Hello all, I asually just lurk on the list but thought I'd toss this out
> there.   I've been seeing more and more fursuit heads made in the balaclava
> style.  I've been making my heads from foam and plastic mesh and I was
> wondering what everyone thinks of the balaclava style?  Pros, cons,
> opinions?  Are they easy to clean?  Durable?  I look forward to reading
> everyone's thoughts on the subject, as I might make my next head may be in
> this style.
>
> Thanks
>
> ~SoulWolf~
> www.furnation.com/soulwolf
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From Mezzobean at aol.com  Mon Mar 17 21:40:48 2008
From: Mezzobean at aol.com (Mezzobean at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:40:48 EDT
Subject: FL: A question of heads
Message-ID: <bd1.2be7e9bc.351077a0@aol.com>

Anyone have photos up of the balaclava method? I've only carved foam  or used 
papier mache as a base. Thanks!
_mezzobean at aol.com_ (mailto:mezzobean at aol.com) 
 
 
 
In a message dated 3/17/2008 9:38:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
sean.wally at gmail.com writes:

Of the  three methods I've tried so far I'm very pleased with the results 
I've been  able to get while building up heads using a balaclava.  I will 
probably  not use a mesh foundation again.




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From pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 18 00:00:56 2008
From: pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com (Kit Kat)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:00:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: A question of heads
In-Reply-To: <BAY121-W3857A253127681239BB9CBFE050@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <977592.9025.qm@web53811.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

So far I started with the balaclava style..its has good pros of looking proportional to the human body and being pretty decent...the biggest con I have noticed is you have to be extremely cautitous with most steps  to try and make sure your head isnt squished too tightly cause something while you progress further the stretchability shrinks and the mask can become very clingly to the face. I wasnt very careful with my first head and now i cant wear my first head for too long otherwise i get the worst head aches...

"SoulWolf ." <the_soulwolf at hotmail.com> wrote:    .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma }   Hello all, I asually just lurk on the list but thought I'd toss this out there.   I've been seeing more and more fursuit heads made in the balaclava style.  I've been making my heads from foam and plastic mesh and I was wondering what everyone thinks of the balaclava style?  Pros, cons, opinions?  Are they easy to clean?  Durable?  I look forward to reading everyone's thoughts on the subject, as I might make my next head may be in this style.
  
 Thanks
  
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From pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 18 00:15:38 2008
From: pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com (Kit Kat)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:15:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: A question of heads
In-Reply-To: <bd1.2be7e9bc.351077a0@aol.com>
Message-ID: <398752.77700.qm@web53801.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I do believe there is a tutorial on the fursuit community on LJ on how to do one..I don't think it has a ton of pics but it gives key pics and detailed advice and such..

Its done by Matrices and has a list of pros and cons compared to other styles...

http://www.matrices.net/balaclava.asp

and for more tutorials here is the fursuiting LJ:

http://community.livejournal.com/fursuit/profile

there may be more tutorials i haven't seen yet on there..

best advice i can give is make sure the foam/dummy head is atleast a comfortable inches bigger than your actual head to make sure its not squeezing your head like a grape.. :\

Mezzobean at aol.com wrote:     Anyone have photos up of the balaclava method? I've only carved foam  or used papier mache as a base. Thanks!
 mezzobean at aol.com
  
  
  In a message dated 3/17/2008 9:38:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  sean.wally at gmail.com writes:
 Of the    three methods I've tried so far I'm very pleased with the results I've been    able to get while building up heads using a balaclava.  I will probably    not use a mesh foundation again.




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From bob at ginkosoft.com  Tue Mar 18 00:46:36 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:46:36 -0700
Subject: FL: Here's another ...
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Is it possible to be voted off the island?

Loop, I want you to do the following:

Step 1: find friend/associate/family member. Let's call them [person].

Step 2: Say to [person], "Hey, [person], I'm on a mailing list 
consisting of:
* Professional costume designers who make their living doing this and 
are rather busy,
* Hobbyist costume designers whodo this for fun and maybe for a bit of 
money,
* Professional performers that need to avoid any sense of impropriety, 
and/or
* Amateur performers who don't want to face accusations of having less 
than pure motives."

Step 3: Show [person] your previous posts, and ask them if they think 
they're 100% appropriate for the mailing list. If they say yes, find a 
different person, and go back to step 2. If they say no, and offer ways 
to make them appropriate, then continue to step 4.

Step 4: Before posting, run the possible post by [person] and ask them 
to fix it up.

Step 5: Finally, post and/or profit.

Please. Post with the buddy system. I have no authority, mind you, and 
you might think this reply mean. But I present it as some friendly 
advice, before it becomes less than friendly.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled silliness.

--BobCoon.

From yappyfox at thefoxden.com  Tue Mar 18 10:20:01 2008
From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (yappyfox at thefoxden.com)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:20:01 -0400
Subject: FL: Here's another ...
In-Reply-To: <1205815979.339B27CF@ff9.dngr.org>
References: <238688.99040.qm@web58411.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<1205798031.1419A503@fc8.dngr.org>
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	<1205815978.339B27CF@ff9.dngr.org>
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I will second this notion..  I've seen some wacked out posts..  If  
things don't become more cohernet and on topic, I will be forced to  
unsubscribe you.


On Mar 18, 2008, at 12:46 AM, Bob Bauhaus wrote:

> Is it possible to be voted off the island?
>
> Loop, I want you to do the following:
>
> Step 1: find friend/associate/family member. Let's call them [person].
>
> Step 2: Say to [person], "Hey, [person], I'm on a mailing list
> consisting of:
> * Professional costume designers who make their living doing this and
> are rather busy,
> * Hobbyist costume designers whodo this for fun and maybe for a bit of
> money,
> * Professional performers that need to avoid any sense of impropriety,
> and/or
> * Amateur performers who don't want to face accusations of having less
> than pure motives."
>
> Step 3: Show [person] your previous posts, and ask them if they think
> they're 100% appropriate for the mailing list. If they say yes, find a
> different person, and go back to step 2. If they say no, and offer  
> ways
> to make them appropriate, then continue to step 4.
>
> Step 4: Before posting, run the possible post by [person] and ask them
> to fix it up.
>
> Step 5: Finally, post and/or profit.
>
> Please. Post with the buddy system. I have no authority, mind you, and
> you might think this reply mean. But I present it as some friendly
> advice, before it becomes less than friendly.
>
> We now return you to your regularly scheduled silliness.
>
> --BobCoon.
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From Mezzobean at aol.com  Tue Mar 18 11:00:12 2008
From: Mezzobean at aol.com (Mezzobean at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:00:12 EDT
Subject: FL: A question of heads
Message-ID: <d5c.202ec79c.351132fc@aol.com>



 
In a message dated 3/18/2008 12:17:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com writes:

I do  believe there is a tutorial on the fursuit community on LJ on how to do 
one..I  don't think it has a ton of pics but it gives key pics and detailed 
advice and  such..

Its done by Matrices and has a list of pros and cons compared to  other  
styles...

http://www.matrices.net/balaclava.asp




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From Mezzobean at aol.com  Tue Mar 18 11:02:28 2008
From: Mezzobean at aol.com (Mezzobean at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:02:28 EDT
Subject: FL: A question of heads
Message-ID: <cf3.2b743673.35113384@aol.com>

Sorry about that last abortive post . . . <sigh> This tutorial is  excellent 
- thanks for the link. I was very curious about the technique, but  like the 
idea of having room in the head for a fan or two, so prolly won't try  it out. 
Good to know though . . . 
_mezzobean at aol.com_ (mailto:mezzobean at aol.com) 
 
 
 
In a message dated 3/18/2008 12:17:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  pixie
_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com writes:

I do  believe there is a tutorial on the fursuit community on LJ on how to do 
one..I  don't think it has a ton of pics but it gives key pics and detailed 
advice and  such..

Its done by Matrices and has a list of pros and cons compared to  other  
styles...

http://www.matrices.net/balaclava.asp




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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Tue Mar 18 11:12:40 2008
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:12:40 -0400
Subject: FL: A question of heads
In-Reply-To: <cf3.2b743673.35113384@aol.com>
References: <cf3.2b743673.35113384@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4E8FFCCF-5771-45A8-8C20-B86517B504D2@flyingfox.biz>

I am looking forward to trying the balaclava too =)

I imagine you could use a bit of 1/2" foam sculpted into the back or  
top of head where you could easily cut a out a square for a small fan  
and battery -and as always the muzzle is a good spot ;)

Scape

Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



On Mar 18, 2008, at 11:02 AM, Mezzobean at aol.com wrote:

Sorry about that last abortive post . . . <sigh> This tutorial is  
excellent - thanks for the link. I was very curious about the  
technique, but like the idea of having room in the head for a fan or  
two, so prolly won't try it out. Good to know though . . .
mezzobean at aol.com


In a message dated 3/18/2008 12:17:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com 
  writes:
I do believe there is a tutorial on the fursuit community on LJ on how  
to do one..I don't think it has a ton of pics but it gives key pics  
and detailed advice and such..

Its done by Matrices and has a list of pros and cons compared to other  
styles...

http://www.matrices.net/balaclava.asp



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From anthrobunny at gmail.com  Tue Mar 18 11:16:24 2008
From: anthrobunny at gmail.com (Blackberry)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:16:24 -0700
Subject: FL: A question of heads
In-Reply-To: <cf3.2b743673.35113384@aol.com>
References: <cf3.2b743673.35113384@aol.com>
Message-ID: <80575201-5578-4391-8F74-598CC3C40858@gmail.com>

Yeah, I make all of my heads with a baseball cap as the base, a  
framework of plastic mesh, and shaping with foam, so I can place fans  
and batteries as I like.

On Mar 18, 2008, at 8:02 AM, Mezzobean at aol.com wrote:

> Sorry about that last abortive post . . . <sigh> This tutorial is  
> excellent - thanks for the link. I was very curious about the  
> technique, but like the idea of having room in the head for a fan or  
> two, so prolly won't try it out. Good to know though . . .
> mezzobean at aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 3/18/2008 12:17:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com 
>  writes:
> I do believe there is a tutorial on the fursuit community on LJ on  
> how to do one..I don't think it has a ton of pics but it gives key  
> pics and detailed advice and such..
>
> Its done by Matrices and has a list of pros and cons compared to  
> other styles...
>
> http://www.matrices.net/balaclava.asp
>
>
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From pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 18 11:31:38 2008
From: pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com (Kit Kat)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:31:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: A question of heads
In-Reply-To: <80575201-5578-4391-8F74-598CC3C40858@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <309515.65802.qm@web53802.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I have always used Balaclava so far but for my personal suit i want to start on this summer I want to try the mesh head technique so I can work in a few fans..Does anyone have any good tutorials on the mesh head method and a decent place to buy fans? Im not a very tech savvy kitten but im also interested in light work. Any advice will be appreciated ^-^

Blackberry <anthrobunny at gmail.com> wrote: Yeah, I make all of my heads with a baseball cap as the base, a framework of plastic mesh, and shaping with foam, so I can place fans and batteries as I like.

On Mar 18, 2008, at 8:02 AM, Mezzobean at aol.com wrote:



  Sorry about that last abortive post . . . <sigh> This tutorial is  excellent - thanks for the link. I was very curious about the technique, but  like the idea of having room in the head for a fan or two, so prolly won't try  it out. Good to know though . . . 
 mezzobean at aol.com
  
  
  In a message dated 3/18/2008 12:17:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com writes:
 I do    believe there is a tutorial on the fursuit community on LJ on how to do one..I    don't think it has a ton of pics but it gives key pics and detailed advice and    such..

Its done by Matrices and has a list of pros and cons compared to    other  styles...

http://www.matrices.net/balaclava.asp




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From Mezzobean at aol.com  Tue Mar 18 11:46:12 2008
From: Mezzobean at aol.com (Mezzobean at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:46:12 EDT
Subject: FL: fan question
Message-ID: <c51.25835fe0.35113dc4@aol.com>

I ordered my fan equipment online from Radio Shack for pick up at my local  
store . . . I used the item numbers/shopping list in Adam Riggs' "Critter  Co
stuming" book, but had a problem with the fuses and fuse holders as one was  
metric and one wasn't - so didn't end up using fuses. OK 'm I bad.
_mezzobean at aol.com_ (mailto:mezzobean at aol.com) 
 
 
In a message dated 3/18/2008 11:38:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com writes:

I have  always used Balaclava so far but for my personal suit i want to start 
on this  summer I want to try the mesh head technique so I can work in a few 
fans..Does  anyone have any good tutorials on the mesh head method and a 
decent place to  buy fans? Im not a very tech savvy kitten but im also interested 
in light  work. Any advice will be appreciated  ^-^




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From anthrobunny at gmail.com  Tue Mar 18 12:10:44 2008
From: anthrobunny at gmail.com (Blackberry)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 09:10:44 -0700
Subject: FL: fan question
In-Reply-To: <c51.25835fe0.35113dc4@aol.com>
References: <c51.25835fe0.35113dc4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <254DC940-8773-42B7-B94B-BEA136DE9C11@gmail.com>

I buy my fans at newegg.com -- 60mm case fans work great, especially  
the Vantec Stealth fans, as they turn a little slower so are silent  
and push a pleasant amount of air.  I put them in series with a switch  
and an 8 pack of AA batteries for 12 volts.

On Mar 18, 2008, at 8:46 AM, Mezzobean at aol.com wrote:

> I ordered my fan equipment online from Radio Shack for pick up at my  
> local store . . . I used the item numbers/shopping list in Adam  
> Riggs' "Critter Costuming" book, but had a problem with the fuses  
> and fuse holders as one was metric and one wasn't - so didn't end up  
> using fuses. OK 'm I bad.
> mezzobean at aol.com
>
> In a message dated 3/18/2008 11:38:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com 
>  writes:
> I have always used Balaclava so far but for my personal suit i want  
> to start on this summer I want to try the mesh head technique so I  
> can work in a few fans..Does anyone have any good tutorials on the  
> mesh head method and a decent place to buy fans? Im not a very tech  
> savvy kitten but im also interested in light work. Any advice will  
> be appreciated ^-^
>
>
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Tue Mar 18 12:33:19 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:33:19 -0800
Subject: FL: A question of heads
In-Reply-To: <309515.65802.qm@web53802.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <80575201-5578-4391-8F74-598CC3C40858@gmail.com>
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And here I thought fanboys where not popular.

*Man there are a lot of you fanboys!*

*I duck and gallop away before someone can throw something at me.*

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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Tue Mar 18 12:52:34 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:52:34 -0800
Subject: FL: fan question
In-Reply-To: <254DC940-8773-42B7-B94B-BEA136DE9C11@gmail.com>
References: <c51.25835fe0.35113dc4@aol.com>
	<254DC940-8773-42B7-B94B-BEA136DE9C11@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0803180952q5290e270j8657b27592b260ac@mail.gmail.com>

I have never used fans. With the exception of Billy Boy my goat fursuit I
never felt the need for one. I could go all day fursuiting *Well over 15
hours not taking the suit off.* and never feel the affects of heat
exhaustion. Thou I would drink plenty of water just in case. There is no
reason to put my self at risk for some dumb thing like trying to be macho.
Going back to Billy Boy. I don't think a fan will help with him. Its not the
head that I feel the affects. Its the body suit. Its all of that long pile
fur. I might need to look into a cooling vest for him.

Boogi I know there is plenty of info on the subject of cooling vests in the
FAQ. I'm not a newbie to the list. =P

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From 12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us  Tue Mar 18 14:15:32 2008
From: 12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us (Arthur Hamilton)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:15:32 -0700
Subject: FL: Question about shipping fursuits/road cases for fursuit
	travel
Message-ID: <1205864132.c423f6a012AHAMILTON1@Davis.k12.ut.us>



-----Original Message-----
From: Super Jayhawk <superjay at hawkcave.com>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 11:19:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: FL: Question about shipping fursuits/road cases for fursuit travel

Hi everyone,

Believe it or not, for the first time since 2003 I'm going to actually fly 
to a con again.  I said "never again" nearly five years ago after the 
luggage muncher machine at O'Hare crushed my Action-packer fursuit box 
both going there and coming back home, as well as the TSA being unkind to 
my fursuit.  So while I plan to fly, I'm not trusting my fursuit to the 
airlines or the TSA, especially my new one.

So first question-- what shipping companies are good for shipping a large 
oversized fursuit box across the country?  And can you get them to pick up 
from the hotel?  I would need to insure it for the full cost of the 
costume, at least.  Any preferences or experience on this one?

Also does anyone have any good companies that sell road cases that can 
stand up to the abuse of travel and protect a fursuit?  Rubbermaid doesn't 
make Action Packer containers that fit the dimensions of my new suit 
(especially with the new wings) so I'd like to ask if anyone knows of good 
places that sell road cases or other shipping-level containers in 
different sizes.  Thanks for any info you may have!


_____________________________________________________________________
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never fear my friend, there in fact is a company that sells the type of box you are looking for!go to www.tuffbox .com and find the size you want!!!


From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Tue Mar 18 17:00:44 2008
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:00:44 -0400
Subject: FL: A question of heads
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0803180933j3a716f95nd89f657afaa313cd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <80575201-5578-4391-8F74-598CC3C40858@gmail.com>
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	<d23d76ca0803180933j3a716f95nd89f657afaa313cd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <577261b40803181400x5d6bb456qae131e807e888c2f@mail.gmail.com>

Hehe, nice one Donkey,  I personally like the balaclava style head, because
typically, there is less of a need for a fan.  But yeah, the muzzle would be
a good place to put a small one if that's what you want to do.
Generally, any computer parts website will have what are called computer
fans, a 30mmx30mm size fan would be good for a head I think.
http://www.buyextras.com/30mmdc5vfans.html that is an example of some fans
that you could buy.  You'd have to somehow hook up power via batteries to
that.

For details, there may be something about it on the list.

-Foxwolf 9-Tails

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:

> And here I thought fanboys where not popular.
>
> *Man there are a lot of you fanboys!*
>
> *I duck and gallop away before someone can throw something at me.*
>
> His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
>
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From marcwolf at marcwolf.org  Tue Mar 18 17:53:03 2008
From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (David Boccabella)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 07:53:03 +1000
Subject: FL: fan question
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0803180952q5290e270j8657b27592b260ac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIIENFGBAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>

I tend to use the 5 volt fans rather than the 12v.  That way they run on
just 4 AA batteries which are easier to hide.

Although I have not fused my fans - I have never had an issue re shorting
etc.  And when the fans do die (hostile humid and corrosive envron) its
usually the bearings that fail rather then the coil.

Take care all

Marcwolf
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From anthrobunny at gmail.com  Tue Mar 18 18:20:56 2008
From: anthrobunny at gmail.com (Blackberry)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:20:56 -0700
Subject: FL: fan question
In-Reply-To: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIIENFGBAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>
References: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIIENFGBAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>
Message-ID: <7407CEED-72A5-452A-9153-B7E48650A914@gmail.com>

On Mar 18, 2008, at 2:53 PM, "David Boccabella"  
<marcwolf at marcwolf.org> wrote:

> I tend to use the 5 volt fans rather than the 12v.  That way they  
> run on just 4 AA batteries which are easier to hide.
>
> Although I have not fused my fans - I have never had an issue re  
> shorting etc.  And when the fans do die (hostile humid and corrosive  
> envron) its usually the bearings that fail rather then the coil.

Those fans are awesome if they work for you.  They just didn't move  
enough air for me, especially in Philly in 98 degrees and 98 percent  
humidity.

With one fan in my muzzle blowing in and one fan at the top rear of my  
head blowing out, I get tons of fresh air and feel cool in any  
weather.  A small fan controller does the trick.
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From Mezzobean at aol.com  Tue Mar 18 18:33:14 2008
From: Mezzobean at aol.com (Mezzobean at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:33:14 EDT
Subject: FL: fan question
Message-ID: <bf8.270c55b4.35119d2a@aol.com>

I used a 12 volt computer fan but run it on one (very easy to hide) 9 volt  
battery. It runs slightly slower (and quieter) but still gives enough breeze. 
_mezzobean at aol.com_ (mailto:mezzobean at aol.com) 
 
 
 
In a message dated 3/18/2008 5:57:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
marcwolf at marcwolf.org writes:

I tend to use  the 5 volt fans rather than the 12v.  That way they run on 
just 4 AA  batteries which are easier to  hide.




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From bob at ginkosoft.com  Tue Mar 18 20:11:00 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:11:00 -0700
Subject: FL: fan question
In-Reply-To: <bf8.270c55b4.35119d2a@aol.com>
References: <bf8.270c55b4.35119d2a@aol.com> <1205883535.27135108@fb15.dngr.org>
Message-ID: <1205885462.237C168C@ff2.dngr.org>

> I used a 12 volt computer fan but run it on one (very easy to hide) 9 
> volt battery. It runs slightly slower (and quieter) but still gives 
> enough breeze.

I was about to say, you can undervolt a fan with no problems. You can 
even get a switch that lets you adjust the voltage and therefore fan 
speed. It's called a variable resistor, potentiometer, or simply pots, 
in some circles.

There's a computer parts store in silicon valley called halted that's 
really great for fans and pots and the like. It's onlt 15 or so minutes 
from the hotel what's FC's held at.

Also, while I'm spamming y'all, what's better, in your opinions: Air 
going in the mouth and out the top, or air going in the top and out the 
mouth? The first seems to be natural convection, but I keep imagining 
headfur standing up like one of those tube advertisement 
attention-getter-thingies.

From marcwolf at marcwolf.org  Tue Mar 18 20:11:39 2008
From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (David Boccabella)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:11:39 +1000
Subject: FL: fan question
In-Reply-To: <7407CEED-72A5-452A-9153-B7E48650A914@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIMENKGBAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>

Hi Blackberry

Thats the same configuration I use.  A laptop 2.5cm x 2.5cm fan in the
muzzle blowing air in and a VGA cooler fan  4cm x 4cm in an ear taking hot
ait out.

Keeps me cool and also well ventilated for hours. I live in Brisbane
Australia where it is often the same environment as yours. :>

Take care

Marcwolf


  -----Original Message-----
  From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
[mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of Blackberry
  Sent: Wednesday, 19 March 2008 08:21
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
  Subject: Re: FL: fan question


  On Mar 18, 2008, at 2:53 PM, "David Boccabella" <marcwolf at marcwolf.org>
wrote:



    I tend to use the 5 volt fans rather than the 12v.  That way they run on
just 4 AA batteries which are easier to hide.

    Although I have not fused my fans - I have never had an issue re
shorting etc.  And when the fans do die (hostile humid and corrosive envron)
its usually the bearings that fail rather then the coil.


  Those fans are awesome if they work for you.  They just didn't move enough
air for me, especially in Philly in 98 degrees and 98 percent humidity.


  With one fan in my muzzle blowing in and one fan at the top rear of my
head blowing out, I get tons of fresh air and feel cool in any weather.  A
small fan controller does the trick.
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From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Tue Mar 18 21:37:00 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:37:00 -0500
Subject: FL: A question of heads
In-Reply-To: <577261b40803181400x5d6bb456qae131e807e888c2f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <80575201-5578-4391-8F74-598CC3C40858@gmail.com>
	<309515.65802.qm@web53802.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<d23d76ca0803180933j3a716f95nd89f657afaa313cd@mail.gmail.com>
	<577261b40803181400x5d6bb456qae131e807e888c2f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4165e4980803181837q90c0d6bm374ab3e861566cc4@mail.gmail.com>

anyone know any good costuming or mascot jobs out there?

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Foxwolf 9-Tails <foxwolfac at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hehe, nice one Donkey,  I personally like the balaclava style head,
> because typically, there is less of a need for a fan.  But yeah, the muzzle
> would be a good place to put a small one if that's what you want to do.
> Generally, any computer parts website will have what are called computer
> fans, a 30mmx30mm size fan would be good for a head I think.
> http://www.buyextras.com/30mmdc5vfans.html that is an example of some fans
> that you could buy.  You'd have to somehow hook up power via batteries to
> that.
>
> For details, there may be something about it on the list.
>
> -Foxwolf 9-Tails
>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > And here I thought fanboys where not popular.
> >
> > *Man there are a lot of you fanboys!*
> >
> > *I duck and gallop away before someone can throw something at me.*
> >
> > His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > _______________________________________________
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From smorizio at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 19 00:18:57 2008
From: smorizio at hotmail.com (steven morizio)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 00:18:57 -0400
Subject: FL: mascot jobs.
In-Reply-To: <398752.77700.qm@web53801.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <bd1.2be7e9bc.351077a0@aol.com>
	<398752.77700.qm@web53801.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY104-W10C8B18873481A3F4EF878D9070@phx.gbl>

There are 10 listings in the us for mascot jobs under yahoo hot jobs for the poster that asked.
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From zoharskarth at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 19 01:26:38 2008
From: zoharskarth at yahoo.com (jenna kiyona)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:26:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Here's another ...
In-Reply-To: <2D23635D-D972-42A8-8576-B61BB6889F83@thefoxden.com>
Message-ID: <55342.97810.qm@web63112.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

I rarely speak up, and now I will. Shortly. I agree with Yappy Fox, and BobCoon. Loop, please keep it to a dull roar in all honesty. Sorry, but maybe more pertinent, and appropriate, matters should be discussed?
   
          Sincerely, ZoharSkarth
  

yappyfox at thefoxden.com wrote:
  I will second this notion.. I've seen some wacked out posts.. If 
things don't become more cohernet and on topic, I will be forced to 
unsubscribe you.


On Mar 18, 2008, at 12:46 AM, Bob Bauhaus wrote:

> Is it possible to be voted off the island?
>
> Loop, I want you to do the following:
>
> Step 1: find friend/associate/family member. Let's call them [person].
>
> Step 2: Say to [person], "Hey, [person], I'm on a mailing list
> consisting of:
> * Professional costume designers who make their living doing this and
> are rather busy,
> * Hobbyist costume designers whodo this for fun and maybe for a bit of
> money,
> * Professional performers that need to avoid any sense of impropriety,
> and/or
> * Amateur performers who don't want to face accusations of having less
> than pure motives."
>
> Step 3: Show [person] your previous posts, and ask them if they think
> they're 100% appropriate for the mailing list. If they say yes, find a
> different person, and go back to step 2. If they say no, and offer 
> ways
> to make them appropriate, then continue to step 4.
>
> Step 4: Before posting, run the possible post by [person] and ask them
> to fix it up.
>
> Step 5: Finally, post and/or profit.
>
> Please. Post with the buddy system. I have no authority, mind you, and
> you might think this reply mean. But I present it as some friendly
> advice, before it becomes less than friendly.
>
> We now return you to your regularly scheduled silliness.
>
> --BobCoon.
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From marcwolf at marcwolf.org  Wed Mar 19 03:33:02 2008
From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (David Boccabella)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:33:02 +1000
Subject: FL: fan question
In-Reply-To: <1205885462.237C168C@ff2.dngr.org>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIOEOBGBAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>


In my opinion its better to take the cooler air in through the muzzle and
then out the top.

There are several reasons for this.

1.  Hot air rises and so you are using the convection to assist.

2. The head actually produces a lot of heat and you will also be sweating
(in in warm climate) so it is best not to rebreath that in.

3. CO2 build up can happen in suits.  This will give a claustrophobic
feeling and also make you feel groggy. Having the cooler O2 air being pump
into your face will let you disperse the CO2 and also get clean air.

4. As with No 2. The head produces heat and heat is often the enemy of the
suiter. Best to use the cooler incoming air on the face to aid cooling
(evaporation of sweat) and also flow it arund the heat to gather as much
heat as possible before pumping it out.

Hope this helps
Take care

Marcwolf

> -----Original Message-----
> From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
> [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of Bob Bauhaus
> Sent: Wednesday, 19 March 2008 10:11
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: fan question
>
>
> > I used a 12 volt computer fan but run it on one (very easy to hide) 9
> > volt battery. It runs slightly slower (and quieter) but still gives
> > enough breeze.
>
> I was about to say, you can undervolt a fan with no problems. You can
> even get a switch that lets you adjust the voltage and therefore fan
> speed. It's called a variable resistor, potentiometer, or simply pots,
> in some circles.
>
> There's a computer parts store in silicon valley called halted that's
> really great for fans and pots and the like. It's onlt 15 or so minutes
> from the hotel what's FC's held at.
>
> Also, while I'm spamming y'all, what's better, in your opinions: Air
> going in the mouth and out the top, or air going in the top and out the
> mouth? The first seems to be natural convection, but I keep imagining
> headfur standing up like one of those tube advertisement
> attention-getter-thingies.
> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
> Fursuit Mail list.
> To edit your subscription, visit:
> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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From fuzzyroo at gmail.com  Wed Mar 19 05:56:37 2008
From: fuzzyroo at gmail.com (Lucus Rocket)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 04:56:37 -0500
Subject: FL:  Honda Advertising Commercial "Mascot"?
Message-ID: <186b03790803190256x3db38afalf562ab3b7af4894d@mail.gmail.com>

so watching online cartoons from adultswim i came accross a commercial for
www.yourotheryou.com

it's a prank website that is sort of a "samual L jackson prank call" thing
like they did for snakes on a plane, but you put in some phone numbers and
email and crap and then choose a personality to "harass" your friends and
pretend to be these people, then at the end of like 4-5 days it kinda goes
"ooop, gota ya!..........buy a scion >.>"

well one of these personalities you can choose is a furry "mascot" so far,
it's not horrible, not great, but they did do a little research lmao, he
gives links to a myspace that's around the personality wich links anthrocon
and afew other furryesque mascot suit makers/cons.  has a video of "here's
materials that are in making suits.." shoes a couple heads.... only thing
that is horrindus though is his "racoon" suit.......kinda creepy
looking..... other then that, it's all right.

anyone else find this?

--the fuzzyroo
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From dualchimera at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 19 06:05:40 2008
From: dualchimera at yahoo.com (Keeper Of Dreams)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 03:05:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Honda Advertising Commercial "Mascot"?
In-Reply-To: <186b03790803190256x3db38afalf562ab3b7af4894d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <686003.56326.qm@web54207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I see it all the time on my email in the ads area.
I've also seen other commercials based on the campaign
too.

--- Lucus Rocket <fuzzyroo at gmail.com> wrote:

> so watching online cartoons from adultswim i came
> accross a commercial for
> www.yourotheryou.com
> 
> it's a prank website that is sort of a "samual L
> jackson prank call" thing
> like they did for snakes on a plane, but you put in
> some phone numbers and
> email and crap and then choose a personality to
> "harass" your friends and
> pretend to be these people, then at the end of like
> 4-5 days it kinda goes
> "ooop, gota ya!..........buy a scion >.>"
> 
> well one of these personalities you can choose is a
> furry "mascot" so far,
> it's not horrible, not great, but they did do a
> little research lmao, he
> gives links to a myspace that's around the
> personality wich links anthrocon
> and afew other furryesque mascot suit makers/cons. 
> has a video of "here's
> materials that are in making suits.." shoes a couple
> heads.... only thing
> that is horrindus though is his "racoon"
> suit.......kinda creepy
> looking..... other then that, it's all right.
> 
> anyone else find this?
> 
> --the fuzzyroo
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From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Wed Mar 19 10:45:30 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:45:30 -0400
Subject: FL: mascot jobs.
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-W10C8B18873481A3F4EF878D9070@phx.gbl>
References: <bd1.2be7e9bc.351077a0@aol.com>
	<398752.77700.qm@web53801.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<BAY104-W10C8B18873481A3F4EF878D9070@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4165e4980803190745p400f31ach881b6c2315979a4@mail.gmail.com>

ahh well see thats the problem I live in Ontario -.- but thanks anyway ^^

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:18 AM, steven morizio <smorizio at hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
> There are 10 listings in the us for mascot jobs under yahoo hot jobs for
> the poster that asked.
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From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Wed Mar 19 10:47:11 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:47:11 -0400
Subject: FL: Honda Advertising Commercial "Mascot"?
In-Reply-To: <686003.56326.qm@web54207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <186b03790803190256x3db38afalf562ab3b7af4894d@mail.gmail.com>
	<686003.56326.qm@web54207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4165e4980803190747t442278afnfd63394a82f1c3c6@mail.gmail.com>

never seen it o-o

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 6:05 AM, Keeper Of Dreams <dualchimera at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> I see it all the time on my email in the ads area.
> I've also seen other commercials based on the campaign
> too.
>
> --- Lucus Rocket <fuzzyroo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > so watching online cartoons from adultswim i came
> > accross a commercial for
> > www.yourotheryou.com
> >
> > it's a prank website that is sort of a "samual L
> > jackson prank call" thing
> > like they did for snakes on a plane, but you put in
> > some phone numbers and
> > email and crap and then choose a personality to
> > "harass" your friends and
> > pretend to be these people, then at the end of like
> > 4-5 days it kinda goes
> > "ooop, gota ya!..........buy a scion >.>"
> >
> > well one of these personalities you can choose is a
> > furry "mascot" so far,
> > it's not horrible, not great, but they did do a
> > little research lmao, he
> > gives links to a myspace that's around the
> > personality wich links anthrocon
> > and afew other furryesque mascot suit makers/cons.
> > has a video of "here's
> > materials that are in making suits.." shoes a couple
> > heads.... only thing
> > that is horrindus though is his "racoon"
> > suit.......kinda creepy
> > looking..... other then that, it's all right.
> >
> > anyone else find this?
> >
> > --the fuzzyroo
> > > _______________________________________________
> > _______________________________________________
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From tsuyoto at gmail.com  Wed Mar 19 17:48:20 2008
From: tsuyoto at gmail.com (Tsuyoto Wolf)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:48:20 -0700
Subject: FL: Honda Advertising Commercial "Mascot"?
In-Reply-To: <186b03790803190256x3db38afalf562ab3b7af4894d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <186b03790803190256x3db38afalf562ab3b7af4894d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e44a10180803191448x516b6824o2635dcf5718122c5@mail.gmail.com>

One of my friends pulled this on me. I thought I had picked up a crazy
fan boy. The emails said he would visit me, gave my address, and
became more and more frightening. It began to worry me, so I posted
the emails I had on my LJ. One of my friends quickly noticed that the
production level on the videos was too high to be made by an amateur.
After some research he found the Toyota site and the link to prank a
friend. The friend who pranked me saw the post as well and confessed.
After giving him a few choice words, we made up and he promised not to
do such a thing again.

I do not suggest playing this prank on any friends, as this one almost
cost me a good friendship.

The emails from the prank are chronicled here:
http://tsuyoto.livejournal.com/49423.html
http://tsuyoto.livejournal.com/50007.html

-Tsuyoto

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:56 AM, Lucus Rocket <fuzzyroo at gmail.com> wrote:
> so watching online cartoons from adultswim i came accross a commercial for
> www.yourotheryou.com
>
> it's a prank website that is sort of a "samual L jackson prank call" thing
> like they did for snakes on a plane, but you put in some phone numbers and
> email and crap and then choose a personality to "harass" your friends and
> pretend to be these people, then at the end of like 4-5 days it kinda goes
> "ooop, gota ya!..........buy a scion >.>"
>
> well one of these personalities you can choose is a furry "mascot" so far,
> it's not horrible, not great, but they did do a little research lmao, he
> gives links to a myspace that's around the personality wich links anthrocon
> and afew other furryesque mascot suit makers/cons.  has a video of "here's
> materials that are in making suits.." shoes a couple heads.... only thing
> that is horrindus though is his "racoon" suit.......kinda creepy
> looking..... other then that, it's all right.
>
> anyone else find this?
>
> --the fuzzyroo

From fuzzyroo at gmail.com  Wed Mar 19 20:30:13 2008
From: fuzzyroo at gmail.com (Lucus Rocket)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:30:13 -0500
Subject: FL: Honda Advertising Commercial "Mascot"?
In-Reply-To: <e44a10180803191448x516b6824o2635dcf5718122c5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <186b03790803190256x3db38afalf562ab3b7af4894d@mail.gmail.com>
	<e44a10180803191448x516b6824o2635dcf5718122c5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <186b03790803191730t20819fbdqaecfb21ae1b6d70a@mail.gmail.com>

it's all in how you look at it too though, man.

the add campaign is assuming that no one would really take this seriously,
and at the very very begining of the "prank" it gives the "prankiee" a large
false psyc test where if you read the small print confesses that it's from
scion, handa's car line, and that you will be contacted by a "friend"
shortly there after.  so really you kinda accept it yourself.  really it's a
few emails, and some text messages, then a car commercial nothing to blow a
gasket over.

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Tsuyoto Wolf <tsuyoto at gmail.com> wrote:

> One of my friends pulled this on me. I thought I had picked up a crazy
> fan boy. The emails said he would visit me, gave my address, and
> became more and more frightening. It began to worry me, so I posted
> the emails I had on my LJ. One of my friends quickly noticed that the
> production level on the videos was too high to be made by an amateur.
> After some research he found the Toyota site and the link to prank a
> friend. The friend who pranked me saw the post as well and confessed.
> After giving him a few choice words, we made up and he promised not to
> do such a thing again.
>
> I do not suggest playing this prank on any friends, as this one almost
> cost me a good friendship.
>
> The emails from the prank are chronicled here:
> http://tsuyoto.livejournal.com/49423.html
> http://tsuyoto.livejournal.com/50007.html
>
> -Tsuyoto
>
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:56 AM, Lucus Rocket <fuzzyroo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > so watching online cartoons from adultswim i came accross a commercial
> for
> > www.yourotheryou.com
> >
> > it's a prank website that is sort of a "samual L jackson prank call"
> thing
> > like they did for snakes on a plane, but you put in some phone numbers
> and
> > email and crap and then choose a personality to "harass" your friends
> and
> > pretend to be these people, then at the end of like 4-5 days it kinda
> goes
> > "ooop, gota ya!..........buy a scion >.>"
> >
> > well one of these personalities you can choose is a furry "mascot" so
> far,
> > it's not horrible, not great, but they did do a little research lmao, he
> > gives links to a myspace that's around the personality wich links
> anthrocon
> > and afew other furryesque mascot suit makers/cons.  has a video of
> "here's
> > materials that are in making suits.." shoes a couple heads.... only
> thing
> > that is horrindus though is his "racoon" suit.......kinda creepy
> > looking..... other then that, it's all right.
> >
> > anyone else find this?
> >
> > --the fuzzyroo
> _______________________________________________
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From aidenislove at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 19 23:21:17 2008
From: aidenislove at yahoo.com (Aiden Raccoon)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:21:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Honda Advertising Commercial "Mascot"?
In-Reply-To: <186b03790803191730t20819fbdqaecfb21ae1b6d70a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <653087.43411.qm@web33908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Then at the very end when they get the phone call with your message you can Rick Roll em too.

Lucus Rocket <fuzzyroo at gmail.com> wrote: it's all in how you look at it too though, man.

the add campaign is assuming that no one would really take this seriously, and at the very very begining of the "prank" it gives the "prankiee" a large false psyc test where if you read the small print confesses that it's from scion, handa's car line, and that you will be contacted by a "friend" shortly there after.  so really you kinda accept it yourself.  really it's a few emails, and some text messages, then a car commercial nothing to blow a gasket over.
 
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Tsuyoto Wolf <tsuyoto at gmail.com> wrote:
 One of my friends pulled this on me. I thought I had picked up a crazy
 fan boy. The emails said he would visit me, gave my address, and
 became more and more frightening. It began to worry me, so I posted
 the emails I had on my LJ. One of my friends quickly noticed that the
 production level on the videos was too high to be made by an amateur.
 After some research he found the Toyota site and the link to prank a
 friend. The friend who pranked me saw the post as well and confessed.
 After giving him a few choice words, we made up and he promised not to
 do such a thing again.
 
 I do not suggest playing this prank on any friends, as this one almost
 cost me a good friendship.
 
 The emails from the prank are chronicled here:
 http://tsuyoto.livejournal.com/49423.html
 http://tsuyoto.livejournal.com/50007.html
 
 -Tsuyoto
 

 On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:56 AM, Lucus Rocket <fuzzyroo at gmail.com> wrote:
 > so watching online cartoons from adultswim i came accross a commercial for
 > www.yourotheryou.com
 >
 > it's a prank website that is sort of a "samual L jackson prank call" thing
 > like they did for snakes on a plane, but you put in some phone numbers and
 > email and crap and then choose a personality to "harass" your friends and
 > pretend to be these people, then at the end of like 4-5 days it kinda goes
 > "ooop, gota ya!..........buy a scion >.>"
 >
 > well one of these personalities you can choose is a furry "mascot" so far,
 > it's not horrible, not great, but they did do a little research lmao, he
 > gives links to a myspace that's around the personality wich links anthrocon
 > and afew other furryesque mascot suit makers/cons.  has a video of "here's
 > materials that are in making suits.." shoes a couple heads.... only thing
 > that is horrindus though is his "racoon" suit.......kinda creepy
 > looking..... other then that, it's all right.
 >
 > anyone else find this?
 >
 > --the fuzzyroo
 


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From bob at ginkosoft.com  Thu Mar 20 05:55:03 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 02:55:03 -0700
Subject: FL: Honda Advertising Commercial "Mascot"?
In-Reply-To: <653087.43411.qm@web33908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <653087.43411.qm@web33908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<1206006906.4E1FA0A@bc12.dngr.org>
Message-ID: <1206006907.14AEF98A@ea29.dngr.org>

Apparently the advertising doesn't work well enough, considering that 
it's for Toyota (who owns Scion), not Honda. *cough*

The bigger thing to notice is a trend. First, subservientchicken.com, 
then Second Life, and now, this. Ladies and gentlemen, I bring the 
revelation that we're now... a target market demographic.

Expect the following new promotions to cater to the lucrative costumed 
consumers:

* Levis 510, with an opening for a tail, in both normal and stone 
washed.

* New chairs in Ikea, to make sitting in costume more comfortable.

* a line of large sunglasses that are compatible with muzzles.

* reaaaalllly long straws as an option for iced drinks at starbucks.

* Skunked, by Calvin Klein

-BobCoon

From aidenislove at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 20 10:32:33 2008
From: aidenislove at yahoo.com (Aiden Raccoon)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:32:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Honda Advertising Commercial "Mascot"?
In-Reply-To: <1206006907.14AEF98A@ea29.dngr.org>
Message-ID: <724530.69152.qm@web33904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Lets not forget jelly beans.  Wildfox was just saying about how he has a "Skunk Spray" flavor jelly bean made by Bean Boozled.

Bob Bauhaus <bob at ginkosoft.com> wrote: Apparently the advertising doesn't work well enough, considering that 
it's for Toyota (who owns Scion), not Honda. *cough*

The bigger thing to notice is a trend. First, subservientchicken.com, 
then Second Life, and now, this. Ladies and gentlemen, I bring the 
revelation that we're now... a target market demographic.

Expect the following new promotions to cater to the lucrative costumed 
consumers:

* Levis 510, with an opening for a tail, in both normal and stone 
washed.

* New chairs in Ikea, to make sitting in costume more comfortable.

* a line of large sunglasses that are compatible with muzzles.

* reaaaalllly long straws as an option for iced drinks at starbucks.

* Skunked, by Calvin Klein

-BobCoon
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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Thu Mar 20 12:38:57 2008
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:38:57 -0400
Subject: FL: Honda Advertising Commercial "Mascot"?
In-Reply-To: <724530.69152.qm@web33904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1206006907.14AEF98A@ea29.dngr.org>
	<724530.69152.qm@web33904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <577261b40803200938y5dd253adpf84f6902c8360279@mail.gmail.com>

*>Bob Bauhaus <bob at ginkosoft.com>* wrote:
>
>Expect the following new promotions to cater to the lucrative costumed
>consumers:
>
>* Levis 510, with an opening for a tail, in both normal and stone
>washed.
>
>* New chairs in Ikea, to make sitting in costume more comfortable.
>
>* a line of large sunglasses that are compatible with muzzles.
>
>* reaaaalllly long straws as an option for iced drinks at starbucks.

Bobcoon, those things would be awesome!  Hehehe, especially the Levis, that
would give me an even better excuse to wear a tail where ever I go. Hehe.
 The chairs would be a huge help.  With my nine tails, sitting down is
really really hard.

Another thing I would love to see made would be car seats with holes for
tails, and vehicle roofs with the ability to raise up to allow us to wear
suit heads in a car.

-Foxwolf 9-Tails
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From furtech at akela.com  Thu Mar 20 13:07:55 2008
From: furtech at akela.com (Lance Ikegawa)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:07:55 -0700
Subject: FL: Here's another ...
In-Reply-To: <2D23635D-D972-42A8-8576-B61BB6889F83@thefoxden.com>
References: <238688.99040.qm@web58411.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<1205798031.1419A503@fc8.dngr.org> <1205806792.6F1D85A@gi31.dngr.org>
	<1205815978.339B27CF@ff9.dngr.org> <1205815979.339B27CF@ff9.dngr.org>
	<2D23635D-D972-42A8-8576-B61BB6889F83@thefoxden.com>
Message-ID: <6fd0d9dc0803201007n575e18a7q90c9d36e4aa6422f@mail.gmail.com>

Yappy-- you know I've been in the fandom for a while and deal with all kinds
of people: this guy gives me the screaming willies (really creeps me out!).
Loop ignores reasonable suggestions and questions.  His posts have
stalker-fanboy written all over them.  Please unsubscribe him!

On 3/18/08, yappyfox at thefoxden.com <yappyfox at thefoxden.com> wrote:
>
> I will second this notion..  I've seen some wacked out posts..  If
> things don't become more cohernet and on topic, I will be forced to
> unsubscribe you.
>
>
>
> On Mar 18, 2008, at 12:46 AM, Bob Bauhaus wrote:
>
> > Is it possible to be voted off the island?
> >
> > Loop, I want you to do the following:
> >
> > Step 1: find friend/associate/family member. Let's call them [person].
> >
> > Step 2: Say to [person], "Hey, [person], I'm on a mailing list
> > consisting of:
> > * Professional costume designers who make their living doing this and
> > are rather busy,
> > * Hobbyist costume designers whodo this for fun and maybe for a bit of
> > money,
> > * Professional performers that need to avoid any sense of impropriety,
> > and/or
> > * Amateur performers who don't want to face accusations of having less
> > than pure motives."
> >
> > Step 3: Show [person] your previous posts, and ask them if they think
> > they're 100% appropriate for the mailing list. If they say yes, find a
> > different person, and go back to step 2. If they say no, and offer
> > ways
> > to make them appropriate, then continue to step 4.
> >
> > Step 4: Before posting, run the possible post by [person] and ask them
> > to fix it up.
> >
> > Step 5: Finally, post and/or profit.
> >
> > Please. Post with the buddy system. I have no authority, mind you, and
> > you might think this reply mean. But I present it as some friendly
> > advice, before it becomes less than friendly.
> >
> > We now return you to your regularly scheduled silliness.
> >
> > --BobCoon.
> > _______________________________________________
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Thu Mar 20 13:15:04 2008
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:15:04 -0400
Subject: FL: Honda Advertising Commercial "Mascot"?
In-Reply-To: <577261b40803200938y5dd253adpf84f6902c8360279@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1206006907.14AEF98A@ea29.dngr.org>
	<724530.69152.qm@web33904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<577261b40803200938y5dd253adpf84f6902c8360279@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <039B59A4-AA8E-4D3F-8752-5A8731CE6F68@flyingfox.biz>

You know what's better than a hole in the back of a chair -since with  
a hole you have to work at making sure your tail goes through it  
properly -A nice deep groove down the middle of the chair is much  
better since you can just simply sit and your tail just fits right in!  
=)

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



On Mar 20, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Foxwolf 9-Tails wrote:

 >Bob Bauhaus <bob at ginkosoft.com> wrote:
 >
 >Expect the following new promotions to cater to the lucrative costumed
 >consumers:
 >
 >* Levis 510, with an opening for a tail, in both normal and stone
 >washed.
 >
 >* New chairs in Ikea, to make sitting in costume more comfortable.
 >
 >* a line of large sunglasses that are compatible with muzzles.
 >
 >* reaaaalllly long straws as an option for iced drinks at starbucks.


Bobcoon, those things would be awesome!  Hehehe, especially the Levis,  
that would give me an even better excuse to wear a tail where ever I  
go. Hehe.  The chairs would be a huge help.  With my nine tails,  
sitting down is really really hard.

Another thing I would love to see made would be car seats with holes  
for tails, and vehicle roofs with the ability to raise up to allow us  
to wear suit heads in a car.

-Foxwolf 9-Tails
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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Thu Mar 20 13:42:10 2008
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:42:10 -0400
Subject: FL: Honda Advertising Commercial "Mascot"?
In-Reply-To: <039B59A4-AA8E-4D3F-8752-5A8731CE6F68@flyingfox.biz>
References: <1206006907.14AEF98A@ea29.dngr.org>
	<724530.69152.qm@web33904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<577261b40803200938y5dd253adpf84f6902c8360279@mail.gmail.com>
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Ooooooooooo, yeah, it would have to be one deep grove though to fit my tails
in, hehehe.  Either that or they could make a cutout in the seat so that its
not a hole but a cut out from the door side that the tail slides into as you
sit down. Hehe.
-Foxwolf 9-Tails

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:

> You know what's better than a hole in the back of a chair -since with a
> hole you have to work at making sure your tail goes through it properly -A
> nice deep groove down the middle of the chair is much better since you can
> just simply sit and your tail just fits right in! =)
> Scape
>
>
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> www.flyingfox.biz
>
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From RTRabbitNY at aol.com  Thu Mar 20 13:51:46 2008
From: RTRabbitNY at aol.com (RTRabbitNY at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:51:46 EDT
Subject: FL: Fursuits on G4 Wired For Sex
Message-ID: <cda.28f91698.3513fe32@aol.com>


_http://rapidtrabbit.livejournal.com/351685.html_ 
(http://rapidtrabbit.livejournal.com/351685.html) 
 



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From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Thu Mar 20 13:57:07 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:57:07 -0400
Subject: FL: Honda Advertising Commercial "Mascot"?
In-Reply-To: <039B59A4-AA8E-4D3F-8752-5A8731CE6F68@flyingfox.biz>
References: <1206006907.14AEF98A@ea29.dngr.org>
	<724530.69152.qm@web33904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<577261b40803200938y5dd253adpf84f6902c8360279@mail.gmail.com>
	<039B59A4-AA8E-4D3F-8752-5A8731CE6F68@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <4165e4980803201057i3697b715x2d85c27b24d090d8@mail.gmail.com>

haah that true I wouldn't mind a groove in my seat ^^ plus it adds for back
comfort as you can lean on the bulk of the tails and have a better posture.

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:

> You know what's better than a hole in the back of a chair -since with a
> hole you have to work at making sure your tail goes through it properly -A
> nice deep groove down the middle of the chair is much better since you can
> just simply sit and your tail just fits right in! =)
> Scape
>
>
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> www.flyingfox.biz
>
>
>
>   On Mar 20, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Foxwolf 9-Tails wrote:
> *>Bob Bauhaus <bob at ginkosoft.com>* wrote:
> >
> >Expect the following new promotions to cater to the lucrative costumed
> >consumers:
> >
> >* Levis 510, with an opening for a tail, in both normal and stone
> >washed.
> >
> >* New chairs in Ikea, to make sitting in costume more comfortable.
> >
> >* a line of large sunglasses that are compatible with muzzles.
> >
> >* reaaaalllly long straws as an option for iced drinks at starbucks.
>
> Bobcoon, those things would be awesome!  Hehehe, especially the Levis,
> that would give me an even better excuse to wear a tail where ever I go.
> Hehe.  The chairs would be a huge help.  With my nine tails, sitting down is
> really really hard.
>
> Another thing I would love to see made would be car seats with holes for
> tails, and vehicle roofs with the ability to raise up to allow us to wear
> suit heads in a car.
>
> -Foxwolf 9-Tails
> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
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From tresnar at gmail.com  Thu Mar 20 14:04:30 2008
From: tresnar at gmail.com (Michael Baechle)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:04:30 -0700
Subject: FL: Honda Advertising Commercial "Mascot"?
In-Reply-To: <577261b40803200938y5dd253adpf84f6902c8360279@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1206006907.14AEF98A@ea29.dngr.org>
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Well, you'll never fit into a geo. You have to start thinking like a
"Tall Person". Something Tahoe/Suburban territory should have some
more headroom. So would a pickup truck. I once knew a guy who just
hated car roofs for some reason - convertibles all the way, there.

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Foxwolf 9-Tails <foxwolfac at gmail.com> wrote:

[Snip]

> Another thing I would love to see made would be car seats with holes for
> tails, and vehicle roofs with the ability to raise up to allow us to wear
> suit heads in a car.
>
> -Foxwolf 9-Tails

From illpalazzosama at gmail.com  Thu Mar 20 14:09:34 2008
From: illpalazzosama at gmail.com (Jesse Triplett)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:09:34 -0400
Subject: FL: Honda Advertising Commercial "Mascot"?
In-Reply-To: <577261b40803201042n28835e5cp3bb7a3655fe54bca@mail.gmail.com>
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Ho about where the seat reclines has the groove so that you can put it off
to the side.   I think up the back might put mine to sleep... =\

And the pants, would these pants have a hole or a cutout that buttons over
the base of the tail?  I'm not sure which would last longer

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Foxwolf 9-Tails <foxwolfac at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Ooooooooooo, yeah, it would have to be one deep grove though to fit my
> tails in, hehehe.  Either that or they could make a cutout in the seat so
> that its not a hole but a cut out from the door side that the tail slides
> into as you sit down. Hehe.
> -Foxwolf 9-Tails
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
>
> > You know what's better than a hole in the back of a chair -since with a
> > hole you have to work at making sure your tail goes through it properly -A
> > nice deep groove down the middle of the chair is much better since you can
> > just simply sit and your tail just fits right in! =)
> > Scape
> >
> >
> > Fox =^_^=
> > John Fox Kinsman
> > www.flyingfox.biz
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From illpalazzosama at gmail.com  Thu Mar 20 14:34:30 2008
From: illpalazzosama at gmail.com (Jesse Triplett)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:34:30 -0400
Subject: FL: Honda Advertising Commercial "Mascot"?
In-Reply-To: <57caa0240803201104h66f1a4bfta932a6a4fd63c8@mail.gmail.com>
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Or Sunroofs
i'm 6'3" and my sunroof is amazing for me in my Civic

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Michael Baechle <tresnar at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, you'll never fit into a geo. You have to start thinking like a
> "Tall Person". Something Tahoe/Suburban territory should have some
> more headroom. So would a pickup truck. I once knew a guy who just
> hated car roofs for some reason - convertibles all the way, there.
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Foxwolf 9-Tails <foxwolfac at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> [Snip]
>
> > Another thing I would love to see made would be car seats with holes for
> > tails, and vehicle roofs with the ability to raise up to allow us to
> wear
> > suit heads in a car.
> >
> > -Foxwolf 9-Tails
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From illpalazzosama at gmail.com  Thu Mar 20 14:42:15 2008
From: illpalazzosama at gmail.com (Jesse Triplett)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:42:15 -0400
Subject: FL: Fursuits on G4 Wired For Sex
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OH NO!  I have that cheetah!  The one in Bengali's car...  Its a
Build-a-bear
At least he's not creepy or made to sound that way.  And i'm glad that they
mention that there are those of us that it's not a sex thing for.

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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Thu Mar 20 14:42:29 2008
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:42:29 -0400
Subject: FL: Honda Advertising Commercial "Mascot"?
In-Reply-To: <4165e4980803201057i3697b715x2d85c27b24d090d8@mail.gmail.com>
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heehee I was meaning the 'seat' part -but the back would work just as  
well =)  I used to wear my tail snowboarding and then we'd all eat at  
denny's afterwards - I always sat where these two booth seats almost  
met and it made the perfect comfy groove to just slide right into ;)

Scape


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On Mar 20, 2008, at 1:57 PM, TashuMitsu Dracosana wrote:

haah that true I wouldn't mind a groove in my seat ^^ plus it adds for  
back comfort as you can lean on the bulk of the tails and have a  
better posture.

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
You know what's better than a hole in the back of a chair -since with  
a hole you have to work at making sure your tail goes through it  
properly -A nice deep groove down the middle of the chair is much  
better since you can just simply sit and your tail just fits right in!  
=)

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



On Mar 20, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Foxwolf 9-Tails wrote:
 >Bob Bauhaus <bob at ginkosoft.com> wrote:
 >
 >Expect the following new promotions to cater to the lucrative costumed
 >consumers:
 >
 >* Levis 510, with an opening for a tail, in both normal and stone
 >washed.
 >
 >* New chairs in Ikea, to make sitting in costume more comfortable.
 >
 >* a line of large sunglasses that are compatible with muzzles.
 >
 >* reaaaalllly long straws as an option for iced drinks at starbucks.


Bobcoon, those things would be awesome!  Hehehe, especially the Levis,  
that would give me an even better excuse to wear a tail where ever I  
go. Hehe.  The chairs would be a huge help.  With my nine tails,  
sitting down is really really hard.

Another thing I would love to see made would be car seats with holes  
for tails, and vehicle roofs with the ability to raise up to allow us  
to wear suit heads in a car.

-Foxwolf 9-Tails
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From bob at ginkosoft.com  Thu Mar 20 15:07:25 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:07:25 -0700
Subject: FL: Honda Advertising Commercial "Mascot"?
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> Lets not forget jelly beans.? Wildfox was just saying about how he has 
> a "Skunk Spray" flavor jelly bean made by Bean Boozled.

Yeah. Why's it always the skunks and foxes that get catered to? And when 
us ringtails get out turn in the spotlight, it's creepy 
raccoon/owl/pinata things that tell us to buy milk trucks.

> Bobcoon, those things would be awesome! Hehehe, especially the Levis, 
> that would give me an even better excuse to wear a tail where ever I 
> go. Hehe. The chairs would be a huge help. With my nine tails, sitting 
> down is really really hard.

Me, I just turn the chair around and have the 'back' to the front. The 
head's noseheavy so leaning back wouldn't work too well, but leaning 
forward's perfect.

Also, what's with so many tails? One's not good enough for you? Hunh? 
Hunh? Hunh? Is that it?

> Another thing I would love to see made would be car seats with holes 
> for tails, and vehicle roofs with the ability to raise up to allow us 
> to wear suit heads in a car.

Given some wide-in-the-middle tails, car seats are not really feasable. 
That and I fear someone trying to drive in costume with the low 
visability. Just begging for bad press, there. But you could always use 
a convertable, I guess.

Or a moped, and the tail could even dangle behind the seat. But it'd 
require the head to use a crash helmet as a base. And I'm giving people 
idears.

--BobCoon.

From noble_a_wolf at hotmail.com  Thu Mar 20 15:56:01 2008
From: noble_a_wolf at hotmail.com (noble wolf)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:56:01 -0400
Subject: FL: Fursuits on G4 Wired For Sex
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I don't know if this will make my work look good or bad....."face paws"


Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:42:15 -0400From: illpalazzosama at gmail.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: Fursuits on G4 Wired For SexOH NO!  I have that cheetah!  The one in Bengali's car...  Its a Build-a-bearAt least he's not creepy or made to sound that way.  And i'm glad that they mention that there are those of us that it's not a sex thing for.  
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 2:51 PM, <RTRabbitNY at aol.com> wrote:


 
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From loopfurwalker at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 20 16:00:27 2008
From: loopfurwalker at yahoo.com (loop furwalker)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:00:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 23, Issue 20
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Fox costumes with tails should be able to fit into bigger, or mid-size cars, maybe SUV's....etc...
   
  Wolf costumes with tails should be able to fit into about the same ---- depending on the size of the animals you're using to compare-----------
   
  Hey! That's areat idea I just came up with!! A suit comparison chart, unless somebody else has already thought of it ------- any other ideas for charts? I suggest you try those Alan Foster painting books ------- they've got charts in them.....etc...both cartoons and *real* items......etc....or, and/or The Illustrated Encyclopedias Of Animals  (various authors). I had a whole lot of them ----- they're now in storage out-of-state for the moment. (If I had them I'd be able explain more about them and give you some measurements: examples: the lion, the horse, the dog, birds and rodents ------ mostly mammals (most advanced creatures I know)
   
  I also like raccoons ----- Do you know anyone that likes "Rocket Raccoon", besides me? I've got the premiere "Hulk" comic of his character and his (RR's) mini-series.....etc...I like the way Marvel Comics draws them both (not too raunchy, except for some scenes with humans and other animals ----- not per or fur verted ------ the humans are with humans and animals are with other animals, as well as "Killer-Clown" robots, and the villains.
   
  (You wrote about Foxcoon ----- do you have any photos and/or attatchments of himself and/or his character ------ or, just simply: what's his website code? Let me know if you can.)
   
  (Anything else I should know about? I'll try to give you more stats and sizes of suits ---- if/when I take measurements..........etc....let me know too, if you can)
   
  I like the format of this listing ----- the others too!! See you sometime!!
   
   

       
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From marcwolf at marcwolf.org  Fri Mar 21 07:52:24 2008
From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (David Boccabella)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:52:24 +1000
Subject: FL: Fursuits on G4 Wired For Sex
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-W18075EE0981DD1FA5F55B4D6000@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIEEDAGCAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>

Pretty tame from what I have seen before from some of the media.

Lets just face it - furrydom is as about as diverse as SciFi. And there will
be all types of people in it.

Tolerance of differences are a big part, and the understanding that what
suits one costumer does not suit another. As I have often joked to non furry
people - When you are a 2 inch mouse who's best friend is a 60 foot tall
dragon - that fact that one of them is gay seems to pale into insignificance
:>

Take care

Marcwolf

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[mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of noble wolf
  Sent: Friday, 21 March 2008 05:56
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
  Subject: Re: FL: Fursuits on G4 Wired For Sex


  I don't know if this will make my work look good or bad....."face paws"



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    Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:42:15 -0400
    From: illpalazzosama at gmail.com
    To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
    Subject: Re: FL: Fursuits on G4 Wired For Sex

    OH NO!  I have that cheetah!  The one in Bengali's car...  Its a
Build-a-bear
    At least he's not creepy or made to sound that way.  And i'm glad that
they mention that there are those of us that it's not a sex thing for.


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From wallyfox98 at hotmail.com  Thu Mar 20 17:52:48 2008
From: wallyfox98 at hotmail.com (Wally_Wabbit/Stephen H./Wallyfox)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:52:48 -0400
Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 23, Issue 20
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One more suggestion:
 
An online blog or journal of your own would probably be a better place to post "off-topic" stuff like this.  Try www.myspace.com or www.livejournal.com and open a free account.  
 
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From wallyfox98 at hotmail.com  Thu Mar 20 17:50:22 2008
From: wallyfox98 at hotmail.com (Wally_Wabbit/Stephen H./Wallyfox)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:50:22 -0400
Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 23, Issue 20
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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:00:27 -0700From: loopfurwalker at yahoo.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 23, Issue 20
Fox costumes with tails should be able to fit into bigger, or mid-size cars, maybe SUV's............................
 
--------
What exactly are you trying to ask, convey, or reply to here?
 
This really seems like TMI in regards to this list.  Sounds more like a one-tracked rant rather than a discussion with others. It dosen't seem to make much sense.
 
Wally_WabbitICQ=86653793 Wally_Wabbit on Furrymuck and Tapestries Wally_Wabbit on IRC/Yiffnet/Anthrochatwallyfox2001 on yahoo messenger wwabbit01 on AIMhttp://www.livejournal.com/users/wally_wabbit/http://www.flickr.com/photos/wally_wabbit



 
Wolf costumes with tails should be able to fit into about the same ---- depending on the size of the animals you're using to compare-----------
 
Hey! That's areat idea I just came up with!! A suit comparison chart, unless somebody else has already thought of it ------- any other ideas for charts? I suggest you try those Alan Foster painting books ------- they've got charts in them.....etc...both cartoons and *real* items......etc....or, and/or The Illustrated Encyclopedias Of Animals  (various authors). I had a whole lot of them ----- they're now in storage out-of-state for the moment. (If I had them I'd be able explain more about them and give you some measurements: examples: the lion, the horse, the dog, birds and rodents ------ mostly mammals (most advanced creatures I know)
 
I also like raccoons ----- Do you know anyone that likes "Rocket Raccoon", besides me? I've got the premiere "Hulk" comic of his character and his (RR's) mini-series.....etc...I like the way Marvel Comics draws them both (not too raunchy, except for some scenes with humans and other animals ----- not per or fur verted ------ the humans are with humans and animals are with other animals, as well as "Killer-Clown" robots, and the villains.
 
(You wrote about Foxcoon ----- do you have any photos and/or attatchments of himself and/or his character ------ or, just simply: what's his website code? Let me know if you can.)
 
(Anything else I should know about? I'll try to give you more stats and sizes of suits ---- if/when I take measurements..........etc....let me know too, if you can)
 
I like the format of this listing ----- the others too!! See you sometime!!
 
 


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From pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 21 10:59:14 2008
From: pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com (Kit Kat)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:59:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Fursuits on G4 Wired For Sex
In-Reply-To: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIEEDAGCAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>
Message-ID: <582753.56769.qm@web53807.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Did anyone receive my question about travel cases? I dunno if the email went through or not.. 

David Boccabella <marcwolf at marcwolf.org> wrote:    .hmmessage P {  PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } BODY.hmmessage {  FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma }    Pretty tame  from what I have seen before from some of the media.
  
 Lets just  face it - furrydom is as about as diverse as SciFi. And there will be all types  of people in it. 
  
 Tolerance of  differences are a big part, and the understanding that what suits one costumer  does not suit another. As I have often joked to non furry people - When you are  a 2 inch mouse who's best friend is a 60 foot tall dragon - that fact that one  of them is gay seems to pale into insignificance :>
  
 Take  care
  
 Marcwolf
  
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From:    fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org    [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of noble    wolf
Sent: Friday, 21 March 2008 05:56
To:    fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Subject: Re: FL: Fursuits on G4 Wired    For Sex


I don't know if this will make    my work look good or bad....."face paws"

        
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     Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:42:15 -0400
From:      illpalazzosama at gmail.com
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Subject:      Re: FL: Fursuits on G4 Wired For Sex

OH NO!  I have that      cheetah!  The one in Bengali's car...  Its a Build-a-bear
At      least he's not creepy or made to sound that way.  And i'm glad that      they mention that there are those of us that it's not a sex thing for.       

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From aidenislove at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 20 19:04:08 2008
From: aidenislove at yahoo.com (Aiden Raccoon)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:04:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Fursuits on G4 Wired For Sex
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for the people who want what you offer, it will be good.

noble wolf <noble_a_wolf at hotmail.com> wrote:    .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma }   I don't know if this will make my work look good or bad....."face paws"

  
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 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:42:15 -0400
From: illpalazzosama at gmail.com
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Subject: Re: FL: Fursuits on G4 Wired For Sex

OH NO!  I have that cheetah!  The one in Bengali's car...  Its a Build-a-bear
At least he's not creepy or made to sound that way.  And i'm glad that they mention that there are those of us that it's not a sex thing for.  

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 http://rapidtrabbit.livejournal.com/351685.html
  



  
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From aidenislove at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 20 19:06:16 2008
From: aidenislove at yahoo.com (Aiden Raccoon)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:06:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 23, Issue 20
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my brain hurts after reading this, yay for Rocket Raccoon


loop furwalker <loopfurwalker at yahoo.com> wrote: Fox costumes with tails should be able to fit into bigger, or mid-size cars, maybe SUV's....etc...
   
  Wolf costumes with tails should be able to fit into about the same ---- depending on the size of the animals you're using to compare-----------
   
  Hey! That's areat idea I just came up with!! A suit comparison chart, unless somebody else has already thought of it ------- any other ideas for charts? I suggest you try those Alan Foster painting books ------- they've got charts in them.....etc...both cartoons and *real* items......etc....or, and/or The Illustrated Encyclopedias Of Animals  (various authors). I had a whole lot of them ----- they're now in storage out-of-state for the moment. (If I had them I'd be able explain more about them and give you some measurements: examples: the lion, the horse, the dog, birds and rodents ------ mostly mammals (most advanced creatures I know)
   
   I also like raccoons ----- Do you know anyone that likes "Rocket Raccoon", besides me? I've got the premiere "Hulk" comic of his character and his (RR's) mini-series.....etc...I like the way Marvel Comics draws them both (not too raunchy, except for some scenes with humans and other animals ----- not per or fur verted ------ the humans are with humans and animals are with other animals, as well as "Killer-Clown" robots, and the villains.
   
  (You wrote about Foxcoon ----- do you have any photos and/or attatchments of himself and/or his character ------ or, just simply: what's his website code? Let me know if you can.)
   
  (Anything else I should know about? I'll try to give you more stats and sizes of suits ---- if/when I take measurements..........etc....let me know too, if you can)
   
  I like the format of this listing ----- the others too!! See you sometime!!
   
    
        

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From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Fri Mar 21 09:43:31 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:43:31 -0500
Subject: FL: Fursuits on G4 Wired For Sex
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omg..are you serious!? not everyone is like that ugh why the friggen
labels!! eww no..I know I'm not like that and I entertain at kids parties
arg!!

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 2:56 PM, noble wolf <noble_a_wolf at hotmail.com>
wrote:

>  I don't know if this will make my work look good or bad....."face paws"
>
>  ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:42:15 -0400
> From: illpalazzosama at gmail.com
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: Fursuits on G4 Wired For Sex
>
>
> OH NO!  I have that cheetah!  The one in Bengali's car...  Its a
> Build-a-bear
> At least he's not creepy or made to sound that way.  And i'm glad that
> they mention that there are those of us that it's not a sex thing for.
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 2:51 PM, <RTRabbitNY at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> http://rapidtrabbit.livejournal.com/351685.html
>
>
>
>
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From pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 20 19:25:34 2008
From: pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com (Kit Kat)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:25:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Traveling Case Question
In-Reply-To: <039B59A4-AA8E-4D3F-8752-5A8731CE6F68@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <513695.31448.qm@web53804.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I am finally making a fursuit for myself and would love to get a decent sized hard cover traveling trunk for it to keep it safe for when I go to cons...Any suggestions to any web sites with nice cases/trunks at a reasonable price? Thanks Everybody :3


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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Fri Mar 21 11:33:16 2008
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:33:16 -0400
Subject: FL: Traveling Case Question
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Most major stores sell large plastic tubs that are perfect for putting a
suit in.  Typically I have seen those tubs Those would be best if  you
drive, I don't know how they would do with flying though.
-Foxwolf 9-Tails

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Kit Kat <pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> I am finally making a fursuit for myself and would love to get a decent
> sized hard cover traveling trunk for it to keep it safe for when I go to
> cons...Any suggestions to any web sites with nice cases/trunks at a
> reasonable price? Thanks Everybody :3
>
>
> Sada Rin Aoko
> --------------------------
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>
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From anthrobunny at gmail.com  Fri Mar 21 11:36:25 2008
From: anthrobunny at gmail.com (Blackberry)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:36:25 -0700
Subject: FL: Traveling Case Question
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The Rubbermaid Action Packer is the classic.

On Mar 20, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Kit Kat <pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com>  
wrote:

> I am finally making a fursuit for myself and would love to get a  
> decent sized hard cover traveling trunk for it to keep it safe for  
> when I go to cons...Any suggestions to any web sites with nice cases/ 
> trunks at a reasonable price? Thanks Everybody :3
>
>
> Sada Rin Aoko
> --------------------------
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From bob at ginkosoft.com  Fri Mar 21 11:51:59 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:51:59 -0700
Subject: FL: Fursuits on G4 Wired For Sex
In-Reply-To: <582753.56769.qm@web53807.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <582753.56769.qm@web53807.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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> Did anyone receive my question about travel cases? I dunno if the email 
> went through or not..

Sorry, no, I don't see any post from you regarding cases, Kit Kat. But 
now I've got the Kit Kat bar jingle stuck in my head.

EDIT: while writing this, your post popped up. Nebbermind. (Break me 
offa piece of that kit kat bar... Argh!)

>> Tolerance of differences are a big part, and the understanding that 
>> what suits one costumer does not suit another. As I have often joked 
>> to non furry people - When you are a 2 inch mouse who's best friend is 
>> a 60 foot tall dragon - that fact that one of them is gay seems to 
>> pale into insignificance :>

I've got this whole theory about the dynamics. Essentially, it's because 
most fandoms have a large, mainstream corporate anchor. SF can revolve 
around Star Wars, Star Trek, Dr. Who, etc. Anime, while less 
centralized, has things like Sailor Moon, Dragonball, and the like.

But while it's tempting to say that this fandom has WB and Disney as 
anchors, they aren't, not really. You could have an entire con without 
one WB or Disney character. There's pretty much no official corporate 
presence, and the big names instead are from the fandom, and -let's be 
honest- unheard of in mainstream. It's a fandom made by fans, for fans.

Without a central anchor, the borders and definitions are, if you'll 
excuse the pun, very fuzzy. So if you ask 5 people to define the fandom, 
you'll get 10 answers. This is not necessairly bad, mind you, but it 
does make things confusing.

From yappyfox at thefoxden.com  Fri Mar 21 14:19:27 2008
From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (Yappy Sly Fox)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:19:27 -0400
Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 23, Issue 20
In-Reply-To: <503493.15277.qm@web58407.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
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Booted...  Unsubscribed..

I have not had to do that in a long time :P

Back to my lurk..





On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 01:00:27PM -0700, loop furwalker wrote:
> 
>    Fox costumes with tails should be able to fit into bigger, or mid-size
>    cars, maybe SUV's....etc...
> 
> 
> 
>    Wolf costumes with tails should be able to fit into about the same
>    ---- depending on the size of the animals you're using to
>    compare-----------
> 
> 
> 
>    Hey! That's areat idea I just came up with!! A suit comparison chart,
>    unless somebody else has already thought of it ------- any other ideas
>    for charts? I suggest you try those Alan Foster painting books -------
>    they've got charts in them.....etc...both cartoons and *real*
>    items......etc....or, and/or The Illustrated Encyclopedias Of Animals
>    (various authors). I had a whole lot of them ----- they're now in
>    storage out-of-state for the moment. (If I had them I'd be able
>    explain more about them and give you some measurements: examples: the
>    lion, the horse, the dog, birds and rodents ------ mostly mammals
>    (most advanced creatures I know)
> 
> 
> 
>    I also like raccoons ----- Do you know anyone that likes "Rocket
>    Raccoon", besides me? I've got the premiere "Hulk" comic of his
>    character and his (RR's) mini-series.....etc...I like the way Marvel
>    Comics draws them both (not too raunchy, except for some scenes with
>    humans and other animals ----- not per or fur verted ------ the humans
>    are with humans and animals are with other animals, as well as
>    "Killer-Clown" robots, and the villains.
> 
> 
> 
>    (You wrote about Foxcoon ----- do you have any photos and/or
>    attatchments of himself and/or his character ------ or, just simply:
>    what's his website code? Let me know if you can.)
> 
> 
> 
>    (Anything else I should know about? I'll try to give you more stats
>    and sizes of suits ---- if/when I take
>    measurements..........etc....let me know too, if you can)
> 
> 
> 
>    I like the format of this listing ----- the others too!! See you
>    sometime!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From superjay at hawkcave.com  Fri Mar 21 14:36:38 2008
From: superjay at hawkcave.com (Super Jayhawk)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:36:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Fursuits on G4 Wired For Sex
In-Reply-To: <1206114723.CB1C988@dg11.dngr.org>
References: <582753.56769.qm@web53807.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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The dynamics are definitely different in this fandom versus other ones in 
that they're not dictated by a central script from a show,  series or
comic.  When Terraluna, Hugg E. Bear and I went to Comic-Con in 2002, 
we did walkarounds in fursuit, and comic-book fans would come up to us and 
ask, "What series are you from?".  I (as escort) would explain that they 
weren't from any comic or cartoon series, and were just their own 
characters, and that just blew their minds.
"No, REALLY, what show are you from??", they would ask again.
That always messes them up.

It probably also makes our fandom a little harder to understand because of 
this.  We did a walkaround at WonderCon as the Furry Superheroes and two 
confused comic-book vendors were wondering why they had never seen issue 
#1 of a Furry Superheroes comic-book that doesn't exist.

Even for people that want to get into the fandom (as I did nine years ago)
it's not easy to learn about the characters or the personalities 
involved-- you have to dive into a furry con and go for a few years before 
you find out who everyone is.

Going to the dealer room in a con, there's not really a single DVD or 
book that you can buy to learn all about the fandom and who's who, 
other than the obviously bad and inaccurate media renditions.
Just a dizzying array of artists of every stripe.  I still don't know who 
half of them are, honestly.  There's no comprehensive pocket Hitchhiker's 
Guide to the Furry Fandom that I know of, although there are some good 
starts.

So yes, with those differences going on, defining the fandom even for 
those truly seeking it can be difficult.  I think if you ask 5 people what 
it is, you'll actually get 33 answers.

At cons like Comic-Con or the like you see the DC, Marvel, Blizzard and 
all the other huge corporate booths with the massive corporate footprint 
all over the con.  I hope the furry fandom never has that happen, honestly.
Can you imagine Disney with a huge booth at a con?
(Complete with briefcase-wielding lawyers)?

 								-SJ


On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, Bob Bauhaus wrote:

> I've got this whole theory about the dynamics. Essentially, it's because most 
> fandoms have a large, mainstream corporate anchor. SF can revolve around Star 
> Wars, Star Trek, Dr. Who, etc. Anime, while less centralized, has things like 
> Sailor Moon, Dragonball, and the like.
>
> But while it's tempting to say that this fandom has WB and Disney as anchors, 
> they aren't, not really. You could have an entire con without one WB or 
> Disney character. There's pretty much no official corporate presence, and the 
> big names instead are from the fandom, and -let's be honest- unheard of in 
> mainstream. It's a fandom made by fans, for fans.
>
> Without a central anchor, the borders and definitions are, if you'll excuse 
> the pun, very fuzzy. So if you ask 5 people to define the fandom, you'll get 
> 10 answers. This is not necessairly bad, mind you, but it does make things 
> confusing.
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From rtrabbitny at aol.com  Fri Mar 21 18:00:51 2008
From: rtrabbitny at aol.com (rtrabbitny at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:00:51 -0400
Subject: FL: Fursuits on G4 Wired For Sex
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0803211116360.23030@bigjay.hawkcave.com>
References: <582753.56769.qm@web53807.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<1206114871.1B12180F@fc9.dngr.org>	<1206114581.D8EF996@bf12.dngr.org>
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Personally, my entry into the furry fandom was quite the opposite, in I 
created my character and TV show a whole decade before the rest of the 
fandom officially coalesced.  Indeed I'm not sure I would have become a 
part of the community without it, even though I was inspired by other 
rabbit media stars of the time.  As I've pointed out in my interviews 
on "The Daily Show" and the movie "Behind The Mascot", RTR was 
partially meant to be the mascot that my hometown of New York City 
ought to have but doesn't.  So I've always had something inherent to be 
representative of...if not The Big Apple, at least my TV show.

About a year or two ago, in his LJ Yippee Coyote cited a photo spread 
of  costume characters from some magazine website with the caption quiz 
"Mascot or Furry"?  Amidst all the mug shots of sports team mascots on 
the page, the only two cited as Furries and not Mascots were myself and 
Thaddeus Fox.  Nevertheless, I maintain the the two of us are indeed 
mascots also--because I represent a television show and Thaddeus 
represented an online comic strip.  And neither of our artistic 
endeavors targetted the Furry fandom per se but aimed for a general 
audience.  After all, my show was borne of Public Access cable.

Having the Rapid T. Rabbit Show as an affiliation has helped other 
suiters in my area gain access to events that offered open-invite 
public appearances such as during independent minor league baseball 
games.  I've been supportive of my friends here regionally to offer my 
show as an umbrella under which to sign up for these small-to-medium 
sized events.  Our collective efforts eventually led to the creation of 
Hi-4 as our local volunteer character entertainment group.

Rapid T. Rabbit


-----Original Message-----
From: Super Jayhawk <superjay at hawkcave.com>
To: Bob Bauhaus <bob at ginkosoft.com>; fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 2:36 pm
Subject: Re: FL: Fursuits on G4 Wired For Sex


The dynamics are definitely different in this fandom versus other ones 
in that they're not dictated by a central script from a show, series or?
comic. When Terraluna, Hugg E. Bear and I went to Comic-Con in 2002, we 
did walkarounds in fursuit, and comic-book fans would come up to us and 
ask, "What series are you from?". I (as escort) would explain that they 
weren't from any comic or cartoon series, and were just their own 
characters, and that just blew their minds.?
"No, REALLY, what show are you from??", they would ask again.?
That always messes them up.?
?
It probably also makes our fandom a little harder to understand because 
of this. We did a walkaround at WonderCon as the Furry Superheroes and 
two confused comic-book vendors were wondering why they had never seen 
issue #1 of a Furry Superheroes comic-book that doesn't exist.?
??

From pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 21 18:13:23 2008
From: pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com (Kit Kat)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:13:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Traveling Case Question
In-Reply-To: <E8CD28B2-0D11-47FB-8C1E-5ABE2BE656CA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <256781.1415.qm@web53809.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Thanks for the suggestions :3 Sorry Bob for getting that jingle stuck in your head, Kit Kat is actually my nick name since my real name is Katherine so ppl call me Kat for short and then the Kit Kat pun came in...My actual suiter/fur name is Sada Aoko

Blackberry <anthrobunny at gmail.com> wrote: The Rubbermaid Action Packer is the classic.  

On Mar 20, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Kit Kat <pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com> wrote:



I am finally making a fursuit for myself and would love to get a decent sized hard cover traveling trunk for it to keep it safe for when I go to cons...Any suggestions to any web sites with nice cases/trunks at a reasonable price? Thanks Everybody :3


Sada Rin Aoko
--------------------------
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From rsg0910 at iglou.com  Fri Mar 21 21:20:30 2008
From: rsg0910 at iglou.com (Robert Goodwin)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:20:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: FL: Traveling Case Question
In-Reply-To: <no.id> from "Blackberry" at Mar 21, 2008 08:36:25 AM
Message-ID: <E1JcsPO-0005zo-9a@iglou.com>

> The Rubbermaid Action Packer is the classic.

The Container Store website has some trunks that can be used on the 
airlines that are within the limits. I have the Storage Locker with 
wheels, #10004629, 32" x 17" x 12-1/4"h, $30. Unfortunately, the wheels 
got ripped off by the airlines on its first round trip. You might be able 
to find this at Walmart for less. TCStore has steel trunks, too!

http://www.containerstore.com/

One larger trunk I had since 1983 they nearly demolished by causing the 
top and bottom to get pushed in and the corner and side brass protectors 
to get ripped off or pushed in. The next one from Target had the plastic 
protectors broken or ripped off and a corner separated.

The airport luggage and TSA gorillas have got to quit abusing luggage like 
that. I saw something in Kmart in the sporting goods section called, if I 
remember right, a "TSA Lock." You set the combination and use it to lock 
your luggage, and a number on the lock body corresponds to a key that the 
TSA has to open it normally. Thus, they don't have to cut it off. I think 
a few of you use regular colored plastic ties to keep it closed and the 
TSA uses their own to reclose.

And, Donkey, no, I wasn't planning on quoting the FAQ, since you already 
have a walk-in freezer somewhere nearby to cool you down. (hehe) But 
seriously, the FAQ's now the Wiki. I'll go through the company list as 
there's a few that are gone or moved when I got time from my classes and 
put the changes into the Wiki.

-boogi-
[taking a study break from *gasp* midterms]

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From bob at ginkosoft.com  Fri Mar 21 22:35:30 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:35:30 -0700
Subject: FL: Traveling Case Question
In-Reply-To: <E1JcsPO-0005zo-9a@iglou.com>
References: <E1JcsPO-0005zo-9a@iglou.com>
Message-ID: <1206153336.25BBFAFA@eb15.dngr.org>

> The airport luggage and TSA gorillas have got to quit abusing luggage 
> like
> that. I saw something in Kmart in the sporting goods section called, if 
> I
> remember right, a "TSA Lock." You set the combination and use it to 
> lock
> your luggage, and a number on the lock body corresponds to a key that 
> the
> TSA has to open it normally. Thus, they don't have to cut it off. I 
> think
> a few of you use regular colored plastic ties to keep it closed and the
> TSA uses their own to reclose.

There's an even better trick. Pack heat.

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/09/expensive_camer.html

The short jist is that baggage carrying weapons have to be checked in 
front of you and locked with a non-TSA lock, going around the usual 
screening (since it was done in front of you) since they don't want any 
chance of a loose firearm.

The trick? A starter pistol, the one that fires blanks and doesn't need 
registration in the US, counts. So if you inform the checkin that you 
have a weapon to declare, and have them check the luggage containing (in 
this case, it was camera equipment) the starter pistol, it'll get 
through with extra care and less rummaging.

No, I haven't done this. No, I don't suggest making the cons have more 
starter pistols than the NRA. But yes, it is tempting.

--BobCoon.

From thebluedragon at gmail.com  Fri Mar 21 22:52:22 2008
From: thebluedragon at gmail.com (Blue Dragon)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:52:22 -0500
Subject: FL: Traveling Case Question
In-Reply-To: <1206153336.25BBFAFA@eb15.dngr.org>
References: <E1JcsPO-0005zo-9a@iglou.com> <1206153336.25BBFAFA@eb15.dngr.org>
Message-ID: <47E47466.3010908@gmail.com>

There's an even better trick. Pack heat.
>
> http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/09/expensive_camer.html
>
> The short jist is that baggage carrying weapons have to be checked in 
> front of you and locked with a non-TSA lock, going around the usual 
> screening (since it was done in front of you) since they don't want 
> any chance of a loose firearm.
>
> The trick? A starter pistol, the one that fires blanks and doesn't 
> need registration in the US, counts. So if you inform the checkin that 
> you have a weapon to declare, and have them check the luggage 
> containing (in this case, it was camera equipment) the starter pistol, 
> it'll get through with extra care and less rummaging.
>
> No, I haven't done this. No, I don't suggest making the cons have more 
> starter pistols than the NRA. But yes, it is tempting.
>
> --BobCoon.
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I can verify this because I have gone through this process myself before 
but I wasn't carrying a starter pistol.  The ticket agents *love* it 
when someone needs to check a firearm.   Where I live it's rather common 
and there is no registration on firearms here.  Also one time they lost 
a bag containing one.  They gave it a VERY HIGH priority and got it back 
within hours.

From rsg0910 at iglou.com  Sat Mar 22 18:47:09 2008
From: rsg0910 at iglou.com (Robert Goodwin)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:47:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: FL: Traveling Case Question
In-Reply-To: <1206153336.25BBFAFA@eb15.dngr.org> from "Bob Bauhaus" at Mar 21,
	2008 07:35:30 PM
Message-ID: <E1JdCUX-0004iL-A9@iglou.com>

> There's an even better trick. Pack heat.

The basic consensus of the comments is that you should send via other 
methods than check it in. Personally, I still don't trust the TSA or the 
airport gorillas with anything expensive or hard to replace in my bags. 
Observe the quotes mentioned about O'Hare and some other airports. They 
still have to be held accountable.

Every once in a while, my hearing aids will set them off. I've always kept 
two baggies around, one kept in checked luggage with small penknife and 
some other personal stuff. The other will have coins, keys, hearing aid 
batteries, and other metallic items for the xray machines. But do not ask 
me to put my film through the machine. I nearly went off on a TSA for 
doing just that, as I had 800 film in there in a CLEAR baggie and I told 
them to hand check it.

A few times way long ago, I was able to pack clothes around an Atari 8bit 
computer and floppy drive in the luggage and they'd come out intact. 
Today, I don't think so. I wouldn't even put hearing aids or someone's 
cochlear implant behind the ear unit in luggage. I can see it now, an 
$8000 CI BTE unit missing and the owner going off on the TSA people, who 
are then claim "we're not responsible" and threaten arrest. Let's see the 
TSA and airlines worm themselves out of THAT one when the fallout from the 
CI and deaf community hits the fan...

Just wondering, but has anyone actually worn their fursuit feet just for 
the heck of it all the way to the end of the flight?

-boogi-
(reminiscing about the old flying days and doing classwork)

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From camstone at dirtdeninn.com  Sun Mar 23 12:55:04 2008
From: camstone at dirtdeninn.com (Camstone)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 12:55:04 -0400
Subject: FL: Traveling Case Question
In-Reply-To: <E1JdCUX-0004iL-A9@iglou.com>
References: <E1JdCUX-0004iL-A9@iglou.com>
Message-ID: <47E68B68.4060207@dirtdeninn.com>

As someone who has traveled extensively with fursuits, I can tell you 
that there is no one "perfect" solution. But I thought I'd share my 
experience of flying about 65,000 flight miles so far with anyone 
interested...

My longest lasting case was a "cube" container (approx 20x20x17) clear 
box from the container store ( 
http://www.containerstore.com/browse/Product.jhtml?CATID=71235&PRODID=62981 
) that I "melted" holes in each corner for tie-wraps to hold the corners 
in. I needed the cube because it was a little taller and would allow me 
to place my fox head with the larger ears in it, and not be concerned 
with them being folded or crushed. Inside the case, on the top - I 
always had a spare set of tie wraps in case TSA opened it, and they 
could reseal it. The colors of the tie wraps in the case were a 
different color than the ones on it - So I knew if someone had looked 
through it before I left the airport. On the inside of the box, I had a 
full page size name and address label affixed so it would be easy to 
identify. I never had any issues with the luggage tags sticking to it, 
even in multiple-jump trips across county. It held a full suit, and head 
with room to spare, including a can of enbac inside. Never had an issue 
with enbac and traveling this way. It's waterproof (although not water 
tight) and it's inexpensive at $20. My biggest complaint I had with it, 
was lugging it around with me, since it had no wheels and that meant I'd 
have to potentially carry 50lbs in my hands to the rental car or to 
where ever I was going. With another piece of luggage, and a briefcase 
that I usually carried - this was a pain in the tail when waiting in a 
long line for getting my boarding pass at places like SFO.

And the case did finally meet it's demise though. While traveling 
recently, it came out of the oversized baggage area with the corner 
smashed and cracked. Fortunately, everything inside was fine. This had 
to be a pretty serious hit, because the case is modestly flexible and it 
looks like someone must have dropped it from the top of the luggage door 
on the airplane onto the runway (and likely when the case was still cold 
from traveling in the plane's hold. But, for $20 that I spent - it 
lasted about three years and through multiple trips.

Everyone I have talked to say that action packers (You can find them at 
target, http://www.target.com/ ) work pretty well, and at $28 they are 
not a bad deal. They and my "cube" met the requirement that all bags 
must be less than 63 linear inches in size (Add length, width, and 
height together, has to be less than 63 inches total... so for the 
action paker, 17+18+23=61, 61 < 63, so good to go.) Just be careful of 
the weight, since anything over 50lbs will get hit with a $25 surcharge 
(the same as an extra bag in many cases, with many airlines.)

But the baggage handlers at some airports still are just as apt to drop, 
bounce, throw, etc. your baggage around as they please. I've had my 
luggage lost as well, which is no fun. Especially when you've got an 
important meeting the next day, and the only place that is open is Walmart.

I'll probably get one of the action packers to replace the cube that 
died in service. Also, I'll be getting a pair of collapsible luggage 
wheels for hauling it to the rental car/hotel.

Recently, I've taken to wearing a partial when I travel - and I've 
gotten a hard sided bag. (Like this: 
http://s7v1.scene7.com/is/image/JohnLewis/000008067?$product$ ) I can 
place the head and a tail, with paws in the piece of luggage, and still 
have room for about 5 days worth of clothes for fun and pleasure. All of 
my trips in the last year have been done this way. If you're smart, you 
can find pieces of luggage like this in yard or community sales for 
about the same price as the action packer or the cube I used.

Also, anyone thinking about going with a starting gun in their case - 
trust me, it's a lot more work than it's worth. Many flight destinations 
don't allow a gun in their town, unless you have a handgun permit. So 
"if" once you land, and if you are seen with it... you can be arrested, 
gun confiscated and put in jail. (Example, Washington DC has a no 
handgun law that's in front of the supreme court.) Plus there is a lot 
more than just getting a starting gun and throwing it into your luggage, 
you will need carry permits and other articles in order to travel with 
it - unless you want to take the risk of being arrested and detained at 
the TSA's discretion and pleasure. (Yes, I just finished talking to 
someone on Friday who was detained in an airport for hours for a similar 
incident... and they were a government employee, who was federally 
permitted to carry a gun on a plane - but had it in their luggage, 
unloaded, with an approved trigger lock - and it took hours for him to 
resolve the issue with multiple phone calls.)

So, here are some hints to those of you thinking about traveling with 
your fursuit:

1) Make sure that the case you get is less than 63" linear length combined.
2) Make sure it's semi-rigid, and has some give to it, so in case it's 
dropped from 4 feet, it doesn't shatter.
3) Mark it on the outside as well as on the inside, with your name 
address and phone number.
4) Consider partials, if you travel a lot - and just doing it for fun.
5) Keep anything that you otherwise put in the case (enbac, scissors, 
electronics, etc) in an easy to find case or clear zip lock bag that can 
be pulled, opened, examined and replaced - easily.
6) If you can use tie-wraps or zip ties, do so rather than locks, and 
include extras in the case where inspectors can easily find them.
7) Use the body to wrap around the head, so that it acts like packing 
material.
8) Pre-weight the case to make sure it's under the 50 lbs limit. Many 
hotels also have weight scales that you can borrow or use.
9) Make sure that when the bag is checked by the airline, that you get 
your "luggage chit."
10) If it's really a concern, consider alternate shipping methods such 
as FedEx, USPS, or UPS and have it shipped to your destination hotel. 
Call the hotel and let them know beforehand that there will be a package 
arriving, so they know it's coming, and can hold it for you. Get the 
best address information from the hotel management on what address to 
ship it to. And don't be surprised that the cost is $25-50 each way with 
tracking.
11) Invest in a set of luggage wheels, and not the cheapie ones either. 
If you have to lug much stuff, it's definitely worth it at the end of a 
long day of travelling.

- Camstone
http://camstone.livejournal.com/profile



From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Mon Mar 24 09:53:29 2008
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:53:29 -0400
Subject: FL: Traveling Case Question
In-Reply-To: <47E68B68.4060207@dirtdeninn.com>
References: <E1JdCUX-0004iL-A9@iglou.com> <47E68B68.4060207@dirtdeninn.com>
Message-ID: <577261b40803240653p7ed12bbbx7b7dce1095904e99@mail.gmail.com>

Your tub idea is an awesome one, Camstone.  I wouldn't have thought to do it
that way. But I don't know if I would ever trust the baggage handlers at any
of the airports here in the USA with my suit.  I have had bags lost before
and they looked pretty scuffed up when I got them back.  Not just that, but
with my current nine-tailed suit, I would need to have about 3 or 4 bags
just to contain the tails as well as the head and body.

I'll just stick to driving when I want to take my suit somewhere, I think,
makes my life simpler.

-Foxwolf 9-Tails
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From stego at cpl.net  Tue Mar 25 18:04:14 2008
From: stego at cpl.net (Stego)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:04:14 -0700
Subject: FL: Traveling Case Question
In-Reply-To: <47E68B68.4060207@dirtdeninn.com>
References: <E1JdCUX-0004iL-A9@iglou.com> <47E68B68.4060207@dirtdeninn.com>
Message-ID: <47E976DE.5030602@cpl.net>

Hey all!

Just dropping my 2 cents in, I concurr with Camstones findings: In my 
case I just used a standard run-of-the-mill Rubbermaid container that 
made it under the 63" limit. Inside said container I would stuff all the 
"fragile/Non crushables" of the suit: The head, cans of Walbac with a 
hard plastic cup taped over the business end, my repair supplies and 
whatever else I felt needed to go in there that I didn't want crushed. 
As for the Bodysuit, I went ahead and carried all the "Squishables" in a 
big duffel bag: bodysuit, paws, feet, all the more Sturdy stuff that I 
know could take a beating. I usually duct-tape this box shut, and I have 
never had a problem with TSA opening it up, as they usually seal it back 
up pretty decently.

Especially these days where the airlines are trying to reduce the number 
of bags one can take, flying with multiple people Really helps: Kat and 
I just pack everything into those two items (one box, one bag), and then 
when we get to the airport we put it all through at the Curb Side 
Checkin (I feel good tipping those guys!) Then when we ge out I grab one 
of those $3 rent-a-cart dealys if we have to haul the stuff around, as 
my bag/box combo has never had wheels in the entire time I've been using 
them.

Carryon-wise I take a small backpack with my underwear in it, in case 
something Does happen to the luggage then I still have a change of 
clothes. If I have a laptop, I take that laptop bag in with me too: Both 
the backpack and laptop bag have fit in my flight space Very well. It 
only becomes a problem when I'm hauling back three 30-packs of White 
Castles from MFF ;)


-Stego


From fox at flyingfox.biz  Thu Mar 27 12:13:25 2008
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:13:25 -0400
Subject: FL: address labels from home
Message-ID: <D50AE823-02E6-4CFA-AA5E-DC5788C72A92@flyingfox.biz>




Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz




From fox at flyingfox.biz  Thu Mar 27 12:24:49 2008
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:24:49 -0400
Subject: FL: address labels from home
In-Reply-To: <D50AE823-02E6-4CFA-AA5E-DC5788C72A92@flyingfox.biz>
References: <D50AE823-02E6-4CFA-AA5E-DC5788C72A92@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <9A88CB22-C818-460E-80E3-5EE01E722D98@flyingfox.biz>

Good Lord y'all -don't mind me -wrong address there eep!

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz



On Mar 27, 2008, at 12:13 PM, Fox Kinsman wrote:




Fox =^_^=
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www.flyingfox.biz



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From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Tue Apr  1 18:56:55 2008
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 22:56:55 +0000
Subject: FL: Nose suggestions
Message-ID: <BAY101-W1101C1F1651E6C4405F14AA9F50@phx.gbl>


I was just wondering since I have just started on my nose what is better to add over my clay to make my nose shape... leather/pleather or tool dip? or if there is other suggestions to do my nose since it is going on a balaclava head?
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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Tue Apr  1 19:13:50 2008
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 19:13:50 -0400
Subject: FL: Nose suggestions
In-Reply-To: <BAY101-W1101C1F1651E6C4405F14AA9F50@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY101-W1101C1F1651E6C4405F14AA9F50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <577261b40804011613o72dfa81la2b727ae1da27d54@mail.gmail.com>

Since it's already furred, IDK how well tool dip would work.  Id probably go
with pleather.  Stretch it under the fur that is there already.
-Foxwolf 9-Tails

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 6:56 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:

>  I was just wondering since I have just started on my nose what is better
> to add over my clay to make my nose shape... leather/pleather or tool dip?
> or if there is other suggestions to do my nose since it is going on a
> balaclava head?
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From synthwolf at gmail.com  Tue Apr  1 20:53:09 2008
From: synthwolf at gmail.com (Jon Lee)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 17:53:09 -0700
Subject: FL: Nose suggestions
In-Reply-To: <BAY101-W1101C1F1651E6C4405F14AA9F50@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY101-W1101C1F1651E6C4405F14AA9F50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <60e717ff0804011753h7d66954w6850fff98994efa3@mail.gmail.com>

I'm currently in the same dillema, and I think I've settled on tool dip.
There are no seams or weird wrinkly bits with it, (unless you mess up XD).
It dries fairly quickly, and ends up looking pretty natural.

--Synth

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:56 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:

>  I was just wondering since I have just started on my nose what is better
> to add over my clay to make my nose shape... leather/pleather or tool dip?
> or if there is other suggestions to do my nose since it is going on a
> balaclava head?
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From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Thu Apr  3 10:19:44 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 10:19:44 -0400
Subject: FL: Nose suggestions
In-Reply-To: <60e717ff0804011753h7d66954w6850fff98994efa3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY101-W1101C1F1651E6C4405F14AA9F50@phx.gbl>
	<60e717ff0804011753h7d66954w6850fff98994efa3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4165e4980804030719nb7bb2aaja8a220a31b580ac0@mail.gmail.com>

hmm I'm trying to do another balaclava head though I'm sure I'm doing wrong
because the head is always too tight then the fur rips in places where
theres glue, anyone have any tips on how to fur a balaclava head or even
just sewing it maybe?

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Jon Lee <synthwolf at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm currently in the same dillema, and I think I've settled on tool dip.
> There are no seams or weird wrinkly bits with it, (unless you mess up XD).
> It dries fairly quickly, and ends up looking pretty natural.
>
> --Synth
>
>  On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:56 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:
>
> >  I was just wondering since I have just started on my nose what is
> > better to add over my clay to make my nose shape... leather/pleather or tool
> > dip? or if there is other suggestions to do my nose since it is going on a
> > balaclava head?
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From tresnar at gmail.com  Thu Apr  3 12:43:12 2008
From: tresnar at gmail.com (Michael B.)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:43:12 -0700
Subject: FL: Nose suggestions
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References: <BAY101-W1101C1F1651E6C4405F14AA9F50@phx.gbl>
	<60e717ff0804011753h7d66954w6850fff98994efa3@mail.gmail.com>
	<4165e4980804030719nb7bb2aaja8a220a31b580ac0@mail.gmail.com>
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What are you putting the head on while attaching foam / furring it?

I either use a real live human [to keep it stretched to the right
size], or a bust (foam/plaster/whatever head) that has human-like
measurements. Something around 23-24" around the forehead is right
when I want it to fit me. There's maybe 2" max flexibility... so you
need to be somewhat close. The 18-20" styrofoam heads are not really
workable.

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 7:19 AM, TashuMitsu Dracosana
<tashumitsu at gmail.com> wrote:
> hmm I'm trying to do another balaclava head though I'm sure I'm doing wrong
> because the head is always too tight then the fur rips in places where
> theres glue, anyone have any tips on how to fur a balaclava head or even
> just sewing it maybe?
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Jon Lee <synthwolf at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm currently in the same dillema, and I think I've settled on tool dip.
> There are no seams or weird wrinkly bits with it, (unless you mess up XD).
> It dries fairly quickly, and ends up looking pretty natural.
> >
> > --Synth
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:56 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I was just wondering since I have just started on my nose what is better
> to add over my clay to make my nose shape... leather/pleather or tool dip?
> or if there is other suggestions to do my nose since it is going on a
> balaclava head?
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From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Thu Apr  3 13:27:58 2008
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:27:58 +0000
Subject: FL: Nose suggestions
In-Reply-To: <4165e4980804030719nb7bb2aaja8a220a31b580ac0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY101-W1101C1F1651E6C4405F14AA9F50@phx.gbl>
	<60e717ff0804011753h7d66954w6850fff98994efa3@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4165e4980804030719nb7bb2aaja8a220a31b580ac0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY101-W316E3AE5E13A08D1B17D88A9F70@phx.gbl>


It is good to sew some of the pieces of fur together from the patter and not use too much glue, but a major key or two is that the base your building on is about an inch or so bigger and that the fur is cut a bit larger than the pattern.


Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 10:19:44 -0400From: tashumitsu at gmail.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: Nose suggestionshmm I'm trying to do another balaclava head though I'm sure I'm doing wrong because the head is always too tight then the fur rips in places where theres glue, anyone have any tips on how to fur a balaclava head or even just sewing it maybe?
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Jon Lee <synthwolf at gmail.com> wrote:
I'm currently in the same dillema, and I think I've settled on tool dip.  There are no seams or weird wrinkly bits with it, (unless you mess up XD).  It dries fairly quickly, and ends up looking pretty natural.  --Synth  

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:56 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:


I was just wondering since I have just started on my nose what is better to add over my clay to make my nose shape... leather/pleather or tool dip? or if there is other suggestions to do my nose since it is going on a balaclava head?

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From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Thu Apr  3 18:53:54 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:53:54 -0500
Subject: FL: Nose suggestions
In-Reply-To: <BAY101-W316E3AE5E13A08D1B17D88A9F70@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY101-W1101C1F1651E6C4405F14AA9F50@phx.gbl>
	<60e717ff0804011753h7d66954w6850fff98994efa3@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <4165e4980804031553o33889efcu54a8fc3fc3d80648@mail.gmail.com>

I'm using a foam head so yeah maybe I should get a new one or just bulk it
up somehow?

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:27 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:

>  It is good to sew some of the pieces of fur together from the patter and
> not use too much glue, but a major key or two is that the base your building
> on is about an inch or so bigger and that the fur is cut a bit larger than
> the pattern.
>
>  ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 10:19:44 -0400
> From: tashumitsu at gmail.com
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: Nose suggestions
>
>
> hmm I'm trying to do another balaclava head though I'm sure I'm doing
> wrong because the head is always too tight then the fur rips in places where
> theres glue, anyone have any tips on how to fur a balaclava head or even
> just sewing it maybe?
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Jon Lee <synthwolf at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm currently in the same dillema, and I think I've settled on tool dip.
> There are no seams or weird wrinkly bits with it, (unless you mess up XD).
> It dries fairly quickly, and ends up looking pretty natural.
>
> --Synth
>
>  On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:56 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:
>
>  I was just wondering since I have just started on my nose what is better
> to add over my clay to make my nose shape... leather/pleather or tool dip?
> or if there is other suggestions to do my nose since it is going on a
> balaclava head?
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From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Thu Apr  3 20:37:00 2008
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 00:37:00 +0000
Subject: FL: Nose suggestions
In-Reply-To: <4165e4980804031553o33889efcu54a8fc3fc3d80648@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY101-W1101C1F1651E6C4405F14AA9F50@phx.gbl>
	<60e717ff0804011753h7d66954w6850fff98994efa3@mail.gmail.com>
	<4165e4980804030719nb7bb2aaja8a220a31b580ac0@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY101-W316E3AE5E13A08D1B17D88A9F70@phx.gbl> 
	<4165e4980804031553o33889efcu54a8fc3fc3d80648@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY101-W125926C72DFC1E3F7754B5A9F60@phx.gbl>


Just bulk it up with 1/2 inch foam


Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:53:54 -0500From: tashumitsu at gmail.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: Nose suggestionsI'm using a foam head so yeah maybe I should get a new one or just bulk it up somehow?
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:27 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:

It is good to sew some of the pieces of fur together from the patter and not use too much glue, but a major key or two is that the base your building on is about an inch or so bigger and that the fur is cut a bit larger than the pattern.


Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 10:19:44 -0400From: tashumitsu at gmail.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: Nose suggestions 


hmm I'm trying to do another balaclava head though I'm sure I'm doing wrong because the head is always too tight then the fur rips in places where theres glue, anyone have any tips on how to fur a balaclava head or even just sewing it maybe?
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Jon Lee <synthwolf at gmail.com> wrote:
I'm currently in the same dillema, and I think I've settled on tool dip.  There are no seams or weird wrinkly bits with it, (unless you mess up XD).  It dries fairly quickly, and ends up looking pretty natural.  --Synth  

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:56 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:


I was just wondering since I have just started on my nose what is better to add over my clay to make my nose shape... leather/pleather or tool dip? or if there is other suggestions to do my nose since it is going on a balaclava head?

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From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Thu Apr  3 22:49:01 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 21:49:01 -0500
Subject: FL: Nose suggestions
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mmk will do that, also anyone know of a good way to make spots? like would a
sharpie pen work?

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 7:37 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:

>
> Just bulk it up with 1/2 inch foam
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:53:54 -0500
>
> From: tashumitsu at gmail.com
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: Nose suggestions
>
> I'm using a foam head so yeah maybe I should get a new one or just bulk it
> up somehow?
>
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:27 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:
>
> It is good to sew some of the pieces of fur together from the patter and
> not use too much glue, but a major key or two is that the base your building
> on is about an inch or so bigger and that the fur is cut a bit larger than
> the pattern.
>
>  ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 10:19:44 -0400
> From: tashumitsu at gmail.com
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: Nose suggestions
>
>
> hmm I'm trying to do another balaclava head though I'm sure I'm doing
> wrong because the head is always too tight then the fur rips in places where
> theres glue, anyone have any tips on how to fur a balaclava head or even
> just sewing it maybe?
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Jon Lee <synthwolf at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm currently in the same dillema, and I think I've settled on tool dip.
> There are no seams or weird wrinkly bits with it, (unless you mess up XD).
> It dries fairly quickly, and ends up looking pretty natural.
>
> --Synth
>
>  On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:56 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:
>
>  I was just wondering since I have just started on my nose what is better
> to add over my clay to make my nose shape... leather/pleather or tool dip?
> or if there is other suggestions to do my nose since it is going on a
> balaclava head?
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From Mezzobean at aol.com  Fri Apr  4 07:47:37 2008
From: Mezzobean at aol.com (Mezzobean at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 07:47:37 EDT
Subject: FL: Nose suggestions
Message-ID: <d65.258f5265.35276f59@aol.com>

I don't know about 'coloring' the base fur, but if the spots are large  
enough you can shave out spots with a razor and then insert fur the color of the  
spots you want. It's time-consuming but looks really, really good!
mezzobean
 
 
In a message dated 4/3/2008 10:50:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tashumitsu at gmail.com writes:

mmk will  do that, also anyone know of a good way to make spots? like would a 
sharpie  pen work?




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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Fri Apr  4 10:31:01 2008
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 10:31:01 -0400
Subject: FL: Nose suggestions
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References: <d65.258f5265.35276f59@aol.com>
Message-ID: <577261b40804040731p26fd99fan88eca279e7550383@mail.gmail.com>

I would stay away from coloring the fur in any way, because that will only
generally bleed out or run, if given time.  Mezzobean has a very good idea,
but yeah, it is time consuming, but can be well worth it.

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From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Fri Apr  4 11:21:29 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:21:29 -0400
Subject: FL: Nose suggestions
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References: <d65.258f5265.35276f59@aol.com>
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I'll give it a try, I just didn't want to have to cute holes in the fur and
sew in spots, that would take forever, so if I shave down the fur then I can
loop it in kinda like croche or something..or glue it with something? hmm..I
wonder if I can get that iron on patch thing and just glue on some fur ontop
of it..would that work? though I'd shave off the fur first then iron on the
patch then glue on some fur onto it.

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Foxwolf 9-Tails <foxwolfac at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I would stay away from coloring the fur in any way, because that will only
> generally bleed out or run, if given time.  Mezzobean has a very good idea,
> but yeah, it is time consuming, but can be well worth it.
>
> -Foxwolf 9-Tails
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Fri Apr  4 12:04:56 2008
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:04:56 -0400
Subject: FL: Nose suggestions
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um, iron... might not be a good idea ;)

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On Apr 4, 2008, at 11:21 AM, TashuMitsu Dracosana wrote:

I'll give it a try, I just didn't want to have to cute holes in the  
fur and sew in spots, that would take forever, so if I shave down the  
fur then I can loop it in kinda like croche or something..or glue it  
with something? hmm..I wonder if I can get that iron on patch thing  
and just glue on some fur ontop of it..would that work? though I'd  
shave off the fur first then iron on the patch then glue on some fur  
onto it.

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Foxwolf 9-Tails <foxwolfac at gmail.com>  
wrote:
I would stay away from coloring the fur in any way, because that will  
only generally bleed out or run, if given time.  Mezzobean has a very  
good idea, but yeah, it is time consuming, but can be well worth it.

-Foxwolf 9-Tails

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From Mezzobean at aol.com  Fri Apr  4 12:46:17 2008
From: Mezzobean at aol.com (Mezzobean at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:46:17 EDT
Subject: FL: fur spot suggestions
Message-ID: <bff.34206dff.3527b559@aol.com>

Although shaving out a spot and inserting your other color fur is, well,  the 
cat's meow in spot making, you can also just sew a spot right over the  
existing fur if the shaving is toooooooo much.
 
 

         
 
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in one I  did that way.
 (Hmm, I wonder how a bikini wax would work. LOL )  



 




 
In a message dated 4/4/2008 12:10:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
fox at flyingfox.biz writes:

On Apr 4, 2008, at  11:21 AM, TashuMitsu Dracosana wrote:
I'll  give it a try, I just didn't want to have to cute holes in the fur and 
sew in  spots, that would take forever, so if I shave down the fur then I can 
loop it  in kinda like croche or something..or glue it with something? hmm..I 
wonder if  I can get that iron on patch thing and just glue on some fur ontop 
of  it..would that work? though I'd shave off the fur first then iron on the 
patch  then glue on some fur onto  it.





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From Mezzobean at aol.com  Fri Apr  4 13:15:57 2008
From: Mezzobean at aol.com (Mezzobean at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:15:57 EDT
Subject: FL: fur spot suggestions
Message-ID: <c0e.2a712e3a.3527bc4d@aol.com>

Two things I forgot to mention, although they're kinda obvious . . . one is  
not to cut through the base fabric of the fur while you're shaving the pile  
off - you want that for the stablility, and second make sure you orient the 
pile  of the spot fur in the same direction as the base fur <duh> before you go  
to all the trouble of sewing it in!
 
 
In a message dated 4/4/2008 12:55:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
Mezzobean at aol.com writes:

Although shaving out a spot and inserting your other color fur is, well,  the 
cat's meow in spot making, you can also just sew a spot right over the  
existing fur if the shaving is toooooooo much.
 





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From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Fri Apr  4 22:30:51 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 21:30:51 -0500
Subject: FL: Nose suggestions
In-Reply-To: <32EEFB74-4233-42AD-9DB4-807F27378359@flyingfox.biz>
References: <d65.258f5265.35276f59@aol.com>
	<577261b40804040731p26fd99fan88eca279e7550383@mail.gmail.com>
	<4165e4980804040821s19e15ca9qb76c87aee0660168@mail.gmail.com>
	<32EEFB74-4233-42AD-9DB4-807F27378359@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <4165e4980804041930i1b640bdelb8d1b394759f8485@mail.gmail.com>

now that I think of it yeah..might melt the surrounding fur..

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Fox Kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:

> um, iron... might not be a good idea ;)
> Scape
>
>
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> www.flyingfox.biz
>
>
>
> On Apr 4, 2008, at 11:21 AM, TashuMitsu Dracosana wrote:
> I'll give it a try, I just didn't want to have to cute holes in the fur
> and sew in spots, that would take forever, so if I shave down the fur then I
> can loop it in kinda like croche or something..or glue it with something?
> hmm..I wonder if I can get that iron on patch thing and just glue on some
> fur ontop of it..would that work? though I'd shave off the fur first then
> iron on the patch then glue on some fur onto it.
>
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Foxwolf 9-Tails <foxwolfac at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I would stay away from coloring the fur in any way, because that will
> > only generally bleed out or run, if given time.  Mezzobean has a very good
> > idea, but yeah, it is time consuming, but can be well worth it.
> >
> > -Foxwolf 9-Tails
> >
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sat Apr  5 01:16:47 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 21:16:47 -0800
Subject: FL: Trying to get a hold of yappyfox
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0804042216tc7e0f0bu1db8f4efde3b14b4@mail.gmail.com>

Yappyfox I would like to talk to you. I tried sending a privet message but
it seems that my message got lost in the shuffle

Donkey
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From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Sun Apr  6 12:22:52 2008
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 16:22:52 +0000
Subject: FL: Nose suggestions
In-Reply-To: <32EEFB74-4233-42AD-9DB4-807F27378359@flyingfox.biz>
References: <d65.258f5265.35276f59@aol.com>
	<577261b40804040731p26fd99fan88eca279e7550383@mail.gmail.com>
	<4165e4980804040821s19e15ca9qb76c87aee0660168@mail.gmail.com> 
	<32EEFB74-4233-42AD-9DB4-807F27378359@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <BAY101-W161FD4BADA0496F2F84EB0A9F00@phx.gbl>


I agree, heat plus fur equals a no no... remember synthetic fur is flamable! Plus the fact that the iron will just melt the fur... unless you want a plastic suit rather than a fursuit, then you can be my guest there.


From: fox at flyingfox.bizTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgDate: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:04:56 -0400Subject: Re: FL: Nose suggestionsum, iron... might not be a good idea ;) 

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
www.flyingfox.biz

On Apr 4, 2008, at 11:21 AM, TashuMitsu Dracosana wrote:I'll give it a try, I just didn't want to have to cute holes in the fur and sew in spots, that would take forever, so if I shave down the fur then I can loop it in kinda like croche or something..or glue it with something? hmm..I wonder if I can get that iron on patch thing and just glue on some fur ontop of it..would that work? though I'd shave off the fur first then iron on the patch then glue on some fur onto it.
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Foxwolf 9-Tails <foxwolfac at gmail.com> wrote:
I would stay away from coloring the fur in any way, because that will only generally bleed out or run, if given time.  Mezzobean has a very good idea, but yeah, it is time consuming, but can be well worth it.-Foxwolf 9-Tails______________________________________________________________________________________________Fursuit Mail list.To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list-- TashuMitsu *Da Artist Wit Da Fuzzi Tail Desu!* ______________________________________________________________________________________________Fursuit Mail list.To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Sun Apr  6 19:51:03 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 19:51:03 -0400
Subject: FL: Nose suggestions
In-Reply-To: <BAY101-W161FD4BADA0496F2F84EB0A9F00@phx.gbl>
References: <d65.258f5265.35276f59@aol.com>
	<577261b40804040731p26fd99fan88eca279e7550383@mail.gmail.com>
	<4165e4980804040821s19e15ca9qb76c87aee0660168@mail.gmail.com>
	<32EEFB74-4233-42AD-9DB4-807F27378359@flyingfox.biz>
	<BAY101-W161FD4BADA0496F2F84EB0A9F00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4165e4980804061651n3f8f7d6au40a66115dae4c5ee@mail.gmail.com>

XD naw naw think I gonna just shave it down then glue in fur spots ^^ that
way it looks somewhat real

On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 12:22 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:

>
> I agree, heat plus fur equals a no no... remember synthetic fur is
> flamable! Plus the fact that the iron will just melt the fur... unless you
> want a plastic suit rather than a fursuit, then you can be my guest there.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: fox at flyingfox.biz
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:04:56 -0400
> Subject: Re: FL: Nose suggestions
>
> um, iron... might not be a good idea ;)
> Scape
>
>
> Fox =^_^=
> John Fox Kinsman
> www.flyingfox.biz
>
>
>
> On Apr 4, 2008, at 11:21 AM, TashuMitsu Dracosana wrote:
> I'll give it a try, I just didn't want to have to cute holes in the fur
> and sew in spots, that would take forever, so if I shave down the fur then I
> can loop it in kinda like croche or something..or glue it with something?
> hmm..I wonder if I can get that iron on patch thing and just glue on some
> fur ontop of it..would that work? though I'd shave off the fur first then
> iron on the patch then glue on some fur onto it.
>
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Foxwolf 9-Tails <foxwolfac at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I would stay away from coloring the fur in any way, because that will only
> generally bleed out or run, if given time.  Mezzobean has a very good idea,
> but yeah, it is time consuming, but can be well worth it.
>
> -Foxwolf 9-Tails
>
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From 12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us  Mon Apr  7 13:16:47 2008
From: 12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us (Arthur Hamilton)
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:16:47 -0600
Subject: FL: you can't beat these prices!!!
Message-ID: <1207588607.33d4a44012AHAMILTON1@Davis.k12.ut.us>

i am currently in the process of moveing, and my wife, a totally awsome suit builder, but not as awsome as me!(don't tell her i said that!!!!!)wants to get rid of some of our suits, don't ask me why, i tried to talk her into stuffing them into our car and driveing a million miles to germany with them, but she didn't want to pay for shipping costs of both our car and our suits, too expensive!!!! we already have to fork out enough money for that giant suv my wife just had to have! anywhooo....if you are interested, we have a fox, two wolves(male and female)and a duck!
she built that one, kind of weird!!!please E-Mail me at 12ahamilton1 at davis.k12.ut.us and tell me wich one you want. we are asking $100.00 for the fox, $300 for both of the wolves or $225 each, and $75.00 for the duck!

   see all ya at anthrocon,
                           slyly fox.


From jonathan.oppeel at telenet.be  Mon Apr  7 13:42:32 2008
From: jonathan.oppeel at telenet.be (Jonathan Oppeel)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 19:42:32 +0200 (Romance (zomertijd))
Subject: FL: you can't beat these prices!!!
References: <1207588607.33d4a44012AHAMILTON1@Davis.k12.ut.us>
Message-ID: <47FA5D08.000001.04192@AMD3000PLUS>

 any Foto's?
 
-------Oorspronkelijk bericht-------
 
Van: Arthur Hamilton
Datum: 04/07/08 19:20:29
Aan: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Onderwerp: FL: you can't beat these prices!!!
 
i am currently in the process of moveing, and my wife, a totally awsome suit
builder, but not as awsome as me!(don't tell her i said that!!!!!)wants to
get rid of some of our suits, don't ask me why, i tried to talk her into
stuffing them into our car and driveing a million miles to germany with them
 but she didn't want to pay for shipping costs of both our car and our suits
 too expensive!!!! we already have to fork out enough money for that giant
suv my wife just had to have! anywhooo....if you are interested, we have a
fox, two wolves(male and female)and a duck!
she built that one, kind of weird!!!please E-Mail me at 12ahamilton1 at davis
k12.ut.us and tell me wich one you want. we are asking $100.00 for the fox,
$300 for both of the wolves or $225 each, and $75.00 for the duck!
 
   see all ya at anthrocon,
                           slyly fox.
 
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From sardognsca at yahoo.com  Mon Apr  7 14:14:14 2008
From: sardognsca at yahoo.com (Sardog)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 11:14:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: you can't beat these prices!!!
In-Reply-To: <1207588607.33d4a44012AHAMILTON1@Davis.k12.ut.us>
Message-ID: <811973.65592.qm@web51602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Do you have pics?

--- Arthur Hamilton <12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us>
wrote:

> i am currently in the process of moveing, and my
> wife, a totally awsome suit builder, but not as
> awsome as me!(don't tell her i said that!!!!!)wants
> to get rid of some of our suits, don't ask me why, i
> tried to talk her into stuffing them into our car
> and driveing a million miles to germany with them,
> but she didn't want to pay for shipping costs of
> both our car and our suits, too expensive!!!! we
> already have to fork out enough money for that giant
> suv my wife just had to have! anywhooo....if you are
> interested, we have a fox, two wolves(male and
> female)and a duck!
> she built that one, kind of weird!!!please E-Mail me
> at 12ahamilton1 at davis.k12.ut.us and tell me wich one
> you want. we are asking $100.00 for the fox, $300
> for both of the wolves or $225 each, and $75.00 for
> the duck!
> 
>    see all ya at anthrocon,
>                            slyly fox.
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> To edit your subscription, visit:
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From jambrassard at earthlink.net  Mon Apr  7 14:40:19 2008
From: jambrassard at earthlink.net (Michel Brassard)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 14:40:19 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: FL: you can't beat these prices!!!
Message-ID: <26452463.1207593619560.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

In addition to photos, what are the size measurements for these suits?

J. A. Michel Brassard - a.k.a. Michel Mephit

-----Original Message-----
>From: Arthur Hamilton <12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us>
>Sent: Apr 7, 2008 1:16 PM
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: FL: you can't beat these prices!!!
>
>i am currently in the process of moveing, and my wife, a totally awsome suit builder, but not as awsome as me!(don't tell her i said that!!!!!)wants to get rid of some of our suits, don't ask me why, i tried to talk her into stuffing them into our car and driveing a million miles to germany with them, but she didn't want to pay for shipping costs of both our car and our suits, too expensive!!!! we already have to fork out enough money for that giant suv my wife just had to have! anywhooo....if you are interested, we have a fox, two wolves(male and female)and a duck!
>she built that one, kind of weird!!!please E-Mail me at 12ahamilton1 at davis.k12.ut.us and tell me wich one you want. we are asking $100.00 for the fox, $300 for both of the wolves or $225 each, and $75.00 for the duck!
>
>   see all ya at anthrocon,
>                           slyly fox.
>
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From galen at velocity.net  Mon Apr  7 16:33:45 2008
From: galen at velocity.net (FoxWolfie Galen)
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:33:45 -0400
Subject: FL: you can't beat these prices!!!
In-Reply-To: <1207588607.33d4a44012AHAMILTON1@Davis.k12.ut.us>
References: <1207588607.33d4a44012AHAMILTON1@Davis.k12.ut.us>
Message-ID: <vb0lv3tsji7k2ob0g63uhmqrjmutkm31rk@4ax.com>

On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:16:47 -0600, "Arthur Hamilton"
<12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us> wrote:

> if you are interested, we have a fox, two wolves(male and female)and a
> duck!
> she built that one, kind of weird!!!please E-Mail me at
> 12ahamilton1 at davis.k12.ut.us and tell me wich one you want. we are
> asking $100.00 for the fox, $300 for both of the wolves or $225 each,
> and $75.00 for the duck!



Hi. I'm very interested in the wolves or the fox, but would need to see
what they look like of course. I've been hoping to buy an extra fursuit
that I could afford for some time now.

Will any of these fit someone who is 5'10" tall?


I tried to email this to you privately using three different email
addresses, and all were rejected. It appears that spamhaus.org on your
server is rejecting everything I try. I'm sending plain text with no
attachments. This is the error I get:

<12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us>: host smtp.dsdmail.net[163.6.2.60] said:
    554 Service unavailable; Client host [mail.velocity.net] blocked
    by zen.spamhaus.org; http://www.spamhaus.org/query/bl?ip=71.72.18.211
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From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Tue Apr  8 10:50:14 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:50:14 -0400
Subject: FL: you can't beat these prices!!!
In-Reply-To: <vb0lv3tsji7k2ob0g63uhmqrjmutkm31rk@4ax.com>
References: <1207588607.33d4a44012AHAMILTON1@Davis.k12.ut.us>
	<vb0lv3tsji7k2ob0g63uhmqrjmutkm31rk@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <4165e4980804080750i67666a52s339ad0fb5211a381@mail.gmail.com>

aye I would like to see the fox and wolves also, I sent an email to you also
but I don't think you got it o.o

On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:33 PM, FoxWolfie Galen <galen at velocity.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:16:47 -0600, "Arthur Hamilton"
> <12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us> wrote:
>
> > if you are interested, we have a fox, two wolves(male and female)and a
> > duck!
> > she built that one, kind of weird!!!please E-Mail me at
> > 12ahamilton1 at davis.k12.ut.us and tell me wich one you want. we are
> > asking $100.00 for the fox, $300 for both of the wolves or $225 each,
> > and $75.00 for the duck!
>
>
>
> Hi. I'm very interested in the wolves or the fox, but would need to see
> what they look like of course. I've been hoping to buy an extra fursuit
> that I could afford for some time now.
>
> Will any of these fit someone who is 5'10" tall?
>
>
> I tried to email this to you privately using three different email
> addresses, and all were rejected. It appears that spamhaus.org on your
> server is rejecting everything I try. I'm sending plain text with no
> attachments. This is the error I get:
>
> <12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us>: host smtp.dsdmail.net[163.6.2.60] said:
>    554 Service unavailable; Client host [mail.velocity.net] blocked
>    by zen.spamhaus.org; http://www.spamhaus.org/query/bl?ip=71.72.18.211
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From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Tue Apr  8 10:50:54 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:50:54 -0400
Subject: FL: you can't beat these prices!!!
In-Reply-To: <4165e4980804080750i67666a52s339ad0fb5211a381@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1207588607.33d4a44012AHAMILTON1@Davis.k12.ut.us>
	<vb0lv3tsji7k2ob0g63uhmqrjmutkm31rk@4ax.com>
	<4165e4980804080750i67666a52s339ad0fb5211a381@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4165e4980804080750y2dc89c0aw3fbb886fc8313ea7@mail.gmail.com>

the following message was what I wrote to you yesterday:

well hey I need a suit almost immediatly for a daycare center >< umm could
you send pics of the Fox and male wolf? please ^^ I may be able to buy it
maybe once I get my pay hopefully soon ^^, I'm also trying to make my own
suit so this would do well until mines done but I still would like to see
those suits if I can ^^

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:50 AM, TashuMitsu Dracosana <tashumitsu at gmail.com>
wrote:

> aye I would like to see the fox and wolves also, I sent an email to you
> also but I don't think you got it o.o
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:33 PM, FoxWolfie Galen <galen at velocity.net>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:16:47 -0600, "Arthur Hamilton"
> > <12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us> wrote:
> >
> > > if you are interested, we have a fox, two wolves(male and female)and a
> > > duck!
> > > she built that one, kind of weird!!!please E-Mail me at
> > > 12ahamilton1 at davis.k12.ut.us and tell me wich one you want. we are
> > > asking $100.00 for the fox, $300 for both of the wolves or $225 each,
> > > and $75.00 for the duck!
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi. I'm very interested in the wolves or the fox, but would need to see
> > what they look like of course. I've been hoping to buy an extra fursuit
> > that I could afford for some time now.
> >
> > Will any of these fit someone who is 5'10" tall?
> >
> >
> > I tried to email this to you privately using three different email
> > addresses, and all were rejected. It appears that spamhaus.org on your
> > server is rejecting everything I try. I'm sending plain text with no
> > attachments. This is the error I get:
> >
> > <12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us>: host smtp.dsdmail.net[163.6.2.60] said:
> >    554 Service unavailable; Client host [mail.velocity.net] blocked
> >    by zen.spamhaus.org; http://www.spamhaus.org/query/bl?ip=71.72.18.211
> > --
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From jpa2blue at yahoo.com  Tue Apr  8 12:21:01 2008
From: jpa2blue at yahoo.com (John Arroyo)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:21:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: you can't beat these prices!!!
Message-ID: <295058.10085.qm@web35308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hey, this is J2 AKA FoxTails. I am currently looking for a Fox Fur suit to buy, and your pricing caught my eye. Do you have any pics of the Fox suit? I will pay in full immediately if the item is intruiging enough. Not to mention that I am 5'5" 1/2, 158 lbs., size 32" waiste, size 8 shoe(U.S). Please reply soon, thanks!


----- Original Message ----
From: Arthur Hamilton <12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2008 10:16:47 AM
Subject: FL: you can't beat these prices!!!

i am currently in the process of moveing, and my wife, a totally awsome suit builder, but not as awsome as me!(don't tell her i said that!!!!!)wants to get rid of some of our suits, don't ask me why, i tried to talk her into stuffing them into our car and driveing a million miles to germany with them, but she didn't want to pay for shipping costs of both our car and our suits, too expensive!!!! we already have to fork out enough money for that giant suv my wife just had to have! anywhooo....if you are interested, we have a fox, two wolves(male and female)and a duck!
she built that one, kind of weird!!!please E-Mail me at 12ahamilton1 at davis.k12.ut.us and tell me wich one you want. we are asking $100.00 for the fox, $300 for both of the wolves or $225 each, and $75.00 for the duck!

  see all ya at anthrocon,
                          slyly fox.

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From coyotesage67 at yahoo.com  Tue Apr  8 12:23:02 2008
From: coyotesage67 at yahoo.com (Coyote m)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:23:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Help-- need advice,and helping hand
In-Reply-To: <c23fb4800802192106l3c8374ccmf28b6df90b35a868@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <504792.8458.qm@web58604.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Hello all,
  I am have a lot of Cheetah fur ,and looking for anyone with experience in making fursuits.
     I have finished crafting,but working on furring the Head Piece,but I never done the body before.  
    I will take any help or advice.
   
  Thanks,
   Mitch 



       
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From esuterure2006 at yahoo.com  Tue Apr  8 12:57:55 2008
From: esuterure2006 at yahoo.com (MECHELLE FREDERICK)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:57:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Help-- need advice,and helping hand
In-Reply-To: <504792.8458.qm@web58604.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <448791.50446.qm@web55305.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

  hi you should ask fenrir,her email is valdyr at fenrirproductions.com
   
  she should be able to help you out!
   
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From anthrobunny at gmail.com  Tue Apr  8 13:20:45 2008
From: anthrobunny at gmail.com (Blackberry)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:20:45 -0700
Subject: FL: Help-- need advice,and helping hand
In-Reply-To: <504792.8458.qm@web58604.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <504792.8458.qm@web58604.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D3B57AF5-AB6F-4310-ABAE-138C6E9E66AE@gmail.com>

I'm on my fifth suit, and I still used the old tried and true method:
- cut out body and sleeve panels according to McCall's pattern (is it  
8256?)
- sew together except for one side
- fit suit by pinning up slack evenly along both sides
- remove and invert suit
- mark pins and remove pins
- repin on marks and sew new seams (except on one side)
- cut away excess fur
- repeat fitting process until fitted
- sew in zipper along open side
Done!

On Apr 8, 2008, at 9:23 AM, Coyote m <coyotesage67 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
> I am have a lot of Cheetah fur ,and looking for anyone with  
> experience in making fursuits.
>    I have finished crafting,but working on furring the Head  
> Piece,but I never done the body before.
>   I will take any help or advice.
>
> Thanks,
>  Mitch
>
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From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Tue Apr  8 13:50:27 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 13:50:27 -0400
Subject: FL: Help-- need advice,and helping hand
In-Reply-To: <D3B57AF5-AB6F-4310-ABAE-138C6E9E66AE@gmail.com>
References: <504792.8458.qm@web58604.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <4165e4980804081050s2a72b925y6426c1e321f2cf76@mail.gmail.com>

Blackberry's method sounds good, though I also have the same problem I'm
making a Cheepard suit two of my many backgrounds put together into animal
form ^^ a German Shepard and Cheetah heheh...so yeah I needa GET fur first
but the whole suit thing is a little more complicated with me since I'm
going to have digigrade legs.

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Blackberry <anthrobunny at gmail.com> wrote:

>  I'm on my fifth suit, and I still used the old tried and true method:
> - cut out body and sleeve panels according to McCall's pattern (is it
> 8256?)
> - sew together except for one side
> - fit suit by pinning up slack evenly along both sides
> - remove and invert suit
> - mark pins and remove pins
> - repin on marks and sew new seams (except on one side)
> - cut away excess fur
> - repeat fitting process until fitted
> - sew in zipper along open side
> Done!
>
> On Apr 8, 2008, at 9:23 AM, Coyote m <coyotesage67 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>   Hello all,
> I am have a lot of Cheetah fur ,and looking for anyone with experience in
> making fursuits.
>    I have finished crafting,but working on furring the Head Piece,but I
> never done the body before.
>   I will take any help or advice.
>
> Thanks,
>  Mitch
>
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From dakitty at chythar.net  Tue Apr  8 14:04:53 2008
From: dakitty at chythar.net (Matthew Muench)
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 11:04:53 -0700
Subject: FL: Help-- need advice,and helping hand
In-Reply-To: <4165e4980804081050s2a72b925y6426c1e321f2cf76@mail.gmail.com>
References: <504792.8458.qm@web58604.mail.re3.yahoo.com>	<D3B57AF5-AB6F-4310-ABAE-138C6E9E66AE@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <47FBB3C5.4060900@chythar.net>

I use the same method for my suits, it's really good if you don't have a 
complicated fur pattern.  Be aware that you will end up wasting extra 
fur as you fit the suit to your body.  I also found it helps for you to 
wear the suit while someone else pins up the slack.  Once the suit is 
pinned up, move around and make sure the suit isn't too snug in the 
wrong spots.  ;)

Chythar

TashuMitsu Dracosana wrote:
> Blackberry's method sounds good, though I also have the same problem I'm 
> making a Cheepard suit two of my many backgrounds put together into 
> animal form ^^ a German Shepard and Cheetah heheh...so yeah I needa GET 
> fur first but the whole suit thing is a little more complicated with me 
> since I'm going to have digigrade legs.
> 
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Blackberry <anthrobunny at gmail.com 
> <mailto:anthrobunny at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     I'm on my fifth suit, and I still used the old tried and true method:
>     - cut out body and sleeve panels according to McCall's pattern (is
>     it 8256?)
>     - sew together except for one side
>     - fit suit by pinning up slack evenly along both sides
>     - remove and invert suit
>     - mark pins and remove pins
>     - repin on marks and sew new seams (except on one side)
>     - cut away excess fur
>     - repeat fitting process until fitted
>     - sew in zipper along open side
>     Done!
> 
>     On Apr 8, 2008, at 9:23 AM, Coyote m <coyotesage67 at yahoo.com
>     <mailto:coyotesage67 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
> 
>>     Hello all,
>>     I am have a lot of Cheetah fur ,and looking for anyone with
>>     experience in making fursuits.
>>        I have finished crafting,but working on furring the Head
>>     Piece,but I never done the body before. 
>>       I will take any help or advice.
>>      
>>     Thanks,
>>      Mitch
>>
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From fenrysstar at aol.com  Tue Apr  8 14:49:17 2008
From: fenrysstar at aol.com (fenrysstar at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:49:17 -0400
Subject: FL: Help-- need advice,and helping hand
In-Reply-To: <504792.8458.qm@web58604.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CA67C0616D4FC8-13BC-C31@webmail-nb07.sysops.aol.com>


 
On a slightly related note, I have been thinking of making or getting a fursuit made to go along with a pirate costume I have put together. The pieces all come from dresslikeapirate.com and fit me a little too well at times as I look like a genuine pirate when I don it. I have several pirate characters that I role play and would to bring at least one of them to life. The question is, how? My face and my hands are the only parts of me that show and there is a coat that is worn that would pretty much obscure any tail I would buy or make. The species of the characters are canine, mostly wolves. Any suggestions of turning this pirate costume I love wearing into a fursuit?







 

      


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From dakitty at chythar.net  Tue Apr  8 15:01:38 2008
From: dakitty at chythar.net (Matthew Muench)
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:01:38 -0700
Subject: FL: Help-- need advice,and helping hand
In-Reply-To: <8CA67C0616D4FC8-13BC-C31@webmail-nb07.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CA67C0616D4FC8-13BC-C31@webmail-nb07.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <47FBC112.8070507@chythar.net>

You can make paws that have attached sleeves so they fit under whatever 
coat or shirt you wear.  I would recommend making and wearing a tail 
anyway, you'll likely see the "bump" of a tail under the coat.  It's one 
more detail that furs might not immediately pick up on but makes the 
outfit more "real".

Since you're wearing normal clothes, you need to make the head as small 
as possible to keep the scale right.  If you make it too big you'll end 
up looking like a toon or worse: a person wearing a mask.  I'd recommend 
making a basic mask, then use fur to wrap around your head; sorta like a 
furred hood that's attached to the mask you make.  Additionally, if 
you're good with makeup and facial appliances you can paint on a mask.

Chythar


fenrysstar at aol.com wrote:
> 
> On a slightly related note, I have been thinking of making or getting a 
> fursuit made to go along with a pirate costume I have put together. The 
> pieces all come from dresslikeapirate.com and fit me a little too well 
> at times as I look like a genuine pirate when I don it. I have several 
> pirate characters that I role play and would to bring at least one of 
> them to life. The question is, how? My face and my hands are the only 
> parts of me that show and there is a coat that is worn that would pretty 
> much obscure any tail I would buy or make. The species of the characters 
> are canine, mostly wolves. Any suggestions of turning this pirate 
> costume I love wearing into a fursuit?
> 
> 
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From zoharskarth at yahoo.com  Tue Apr  8 21:26:02 2008
From: zoharskarth at yahoo.com (jenna kiyona)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 18:26:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Shamanic rattle for trade
Message-ID: <33990.39893.qm@web63109.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

I want ot trade a shamanic rattle that I made for a few balaclavas if anyone is interested.
  Pictures here> http://zoharskarth.deviantart.com/art/Shamanic-Rattle-82205714
   
  Description: 
  This is a shamanic rattle. It represents the Upper, Lower, and Median realms. I made it myself out of hand stretched leather, bone, paint, etc. 

It helps the user into a trance to travel to the Upper and Lower realms and seek out truth and spiritual knowlgde. It allows the person a direct contact to a divine source. The two realms that the shamanic practioner travels to are represented by the two wolves and two moons. The white wolf is the Upper World, and the black wolf is the Lower World. Don't confuse this with Christianity, it's not gonna send you to hell or heaven.

This enables the journeyer to voyage into the realms and contact their spirit teacher/guides and spirit/power animals. Both can aide the shamanic practioner through all of life. Whether it's contact with your spirit animals in the Lower World, or a chat with your spirit teacher in the upper world there is no limit to the power this possess and can unlock in the user. I have labored over it endowing it with some of my own energies to befin the magickal process. The shaking of the rattel alters brain waves and carries you off on your journey. 

Comes with instructions on how to use. At first you might want to have a friend shake it and send you on your journey, but it can be done solo as well. Good for groups!

Ever want to talk to animals? Or chat with the dead? (I once had an odd conversation with Sigmund Frued). Ever want to unleash your potential, or gain knowlegde? Ever want to experience what its like to BE an animal? Ever want to call upon your own spiritual power?

This is an answer to those. Comment for the trade, best offer takes it. Only one. I'll trade it for as many balaclavas [link] as possible, I've got masks to make... The bidding goes on until April 18th, highest takes it... 
   
  I hope someone is interested, I'd like to share my shamanic beliefs in an artsy way...

       
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Tue Apr  8 21:17:54 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 17:17:54 -0800
Subject: FL: Help-- need advice,and helping hand
In-Reply-To: <47FBB3C5.4060900@chythar.net>
References: <504792.8458.qm@web58604.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<D3B57AF5-AB6F-4310-ABAE-138C6E9E66AE@gmail.com>
	<4165e4980804081050s2a72b925y6426c1e321f2cf76@mail.gmail.com>
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One thing make sure you trust the person doing the pining. They might get
ideas like... "Oops I slipped" And you saying "*OUCH!!!*... I'm going to
kill you once I can get untangled for all of this fur!" You would be
surprised how often that happens.

Believe me, even saints get ideas when they have pins in there paws. Now as
for me. I *can* be trusted.
*thinking to my self.* "To run away as fast as my hooves can go after I stab
a fur."

His Most Royally trustworthy Highass, Donkey

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Matthew Muench <dakitty at chythar.net> wrote:

> I use the same method for my suits, it's really good if you don't have a
> complicated fur pattern.  Be aware that you will end up wasting extra fur as
> you fit the suit to your body.  I also found it helps for you to wear the
> suit while someone else pins up the slack.  Once the suit is pinned up, move
> around and make sure the suit isn't too snug in the wrong spots.  ;)
>
> Chythar
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Tue Apr  8 21:17:54 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 17:17:54 -0800
Subject: FL: Help-- need advice,and helping hand
In-Reply-To: <47FBB3C5.4060900@chythar.net>
References: <504792.8458.qm@web58604.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<D3B57AF5-AB6F-4310-ABAE-138C6E9E66AE@gmail.com>
	<4165e4980804081050s2a72b925y6426c1e321f2cf76@mail.gmail.com>
	<47FBB3C5.4060900@chythar.net>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0804081817q7953d552q65ff262e8914acb8@mail.gmail.com>

One thing make sure you trust the person doing the pining. They might get
ideas like... "Oops I slipped" And you saying "*OUCH!!!*... I'm going to
kill you once I can get untangled for all of this fur!" You would be
surprised how often that happens.

Believe me, even saints get ideas when they have pins in there paws. Now as
for me. I *can* be trusted.
*thinking to my self.* "To run away as fast as my hooves can go after I stab
a fur."

His Most Royally trustworthy Highass, Donkey

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Matthew Muench <dakitty at chythar.net> wrote:

> I use the same method for my suits, it's really good if you don't have a
> complicated fur pattern.  Be aware that you will end up wasting extra fur as
> you fit the suit to your body.  I also found it helps for you to wear the
> suit while someone else pins up the slack.  Once the suit is pinned up, move
> around and make sure the suit isn't too snug in the wrong spots.  ;)
>
> Chythar
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From coyotesage67 at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  9 10:00:02 2008
From: coyotesage67 at yahoo.com (Coyote m)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 07:00:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Help-- need advice,and helping hand
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0804081817q7953d552q65ff262e8914acb8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <805684.4567.qm@web58606.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

 Thank you,Donkey*Laughs* I will keep that in mind.. 

Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:  One thing make sure you trust the person doing the pining. They might get ideas like... "Oops I slipped" And you saying "OUCH!!!... I'm going to kill you once I can get untangled for all of this fur!" You would be surprised how often that happens. 

Believe me, even saints get ideas when they have pins in there paws. Now as for me. I can be trusted. 
*thinking to my self.* "To run away as fast as my hooves can go after I stab a fur."

His Most Royally trustworthy Highass, Donkey

  On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Matthew Muench <dakitty at chythar.net> wrote:
  I use the same method for my suits, it's really good if you don't have a complicated fur pattern.  Be aware that you will end up wasting extra fur as you fit the suit to your body.  I also found it helps for you to wear the suit while someone else pins up the slack.  Once the suit is pinned up, move around and make sure the suit isn't too snug in the wrong spots.  ;)

Chythar

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From coyotesage67 at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  9 10:01:51 2008
From: coyotesage67 at yahoo.com (Coyote m)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 07:01:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Help-- need advice,and helping hand
In-Reply-To: <D3B57AF5-AB6F-4310-ABAE-138C6E9E66AE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <654158.5366.qm@web58607.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

 Thank you so much, BlackBerry.*smiles* I will try that this weekend.
  Mitch

Blackberry <anthrobunny at gmail.com> wrote:
    I'm on my fifth suit, and I still used the old tried and true method:
  - cut out body and sleeve panels according to McCall's pattern (is it 8256?)
  - sew together except for one side
  - fit suit by pinning up slack evenly along both sides
  - remove and invert suit
  - mark pins and remove pins
  - repin on marks and sew new seams (except on one side)
  - cut away excess fur
  - repeat fitting process until fitted
  - sew in zipper along open side
  Done!
  
On Apr 8, 2008, at 9:23 AM, Coyote m <coyotesage67 at yahoo.com> wrote:


  
      Hello all,
  I am have a lot of Cheetah fur ,and looking for anyone with experience in making fursuits.
     I have finished crafting,but working on furring the Head Piece,but I never done the body before.  
    I will take any help or advice.
   
  Thanks,
   Mitch 


  
  
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From coyotesage67 at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  9 10:05:24 2008
From: coyotesage67 at yahoo.com (Coyote m)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 07:05:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Help-- need advice,and helping hand
In-Reply-To: <47FBC112.8070507@chythar.net>
Message-ID: <274686.11216.qm@web58606.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Thanks for the tip, Chythar! *smiles*  I have made a word document with all the tips I have been given. I love cut,and paste. *smiles*
   
  Mitch


Matthew Muench <dakitty at chythar.net> wrote:
  You can make paws that have attached sleeves so they fit under whatever 
coat or shirt you wear. I would recommend making and wearing a tail 
anyway, you'll likely see the "bump" of a tail under the coat. It's one 
more detail that furs might not immediately pick up on but makes the 
outfit more "real".

Since you're wearing normal clothes, you need to make the head as small 
as possible to keep the scale right. If you make it too big you'll end 
up looking like a toon or worse: a person wearing a mask. I'd recommend 
making a basic mask, then use fur to wrap around your head; sorta like a 
furred hood that's attached to the mask you make. Additionally, if 
you're good with makeup and facial appliances you can paint on a mask.

Chythar


fenrysstar at aol.com wrote:
> 
> On a slightly related note, I have been thinking of making or getting a 
> fursuit made to go along with a pirate costume I have put together. The 
> pieces all come from dresslikeapirate.com and fit me a little too well 
> at times as I look like a genuine pirate when I don it. I have several 
> pirate characters that I role play and would to bring at least one of 
> them to life. The question is, how? My face and my hands are the only 
> parts of me that show and there is a coat that is worn that would pretty 
> much obscure any tail I would buy or make. The species of the characters 
> are canine, mostly wolves. Any suggestions of turning this pirate 
> costume I love wearing into a fursuit?
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From francisco-sender-6f5fe9 at vulpes.net  Wed Apr  9 15:17:15 2008
From: francisco-sender-6f5fe9 at vulpes.net (Francisco Azinsan)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 14:17:15 -0500
Subject: FL: Important FC 2009 Hotel News - DoubleTree Sold Out
Message-ID: <20080409191715.GA86125@critter.net>


The demand for rooms at our convention hotel for FC2009 has been
unprecedented this year. Not only unprecedented for FC but for the
Doubletree as well. They have never had an event of our size sell out as
quick. Our 8 suites sold out in under 10 minutes and the Exec level floors
in a shade over 10 hours. The bulk of the other rooms in the hotel went in
under 72 hours, and we actually determined that we'd sold out for sure
Monday afternoon. There is no chance of an expansion of our block at the
DoubleTree because, quite simply, there are no more rooms to be had.

For folks that did not get what they want, our deepest regrets. Our hotel
staff is doing their best to help as many people as possible.

To answer the frequently asked questions that we've been getting:

Q: When will I be notified if I have a Suite/Exec room/Fursuit floor
room/Party floor room?
A: Our hotel liaison staff are working on room allocations now. We'll notify
people who requested Suites first, then Exec level rooms, and then work down
towards Fursuit and Party floor rooms. Please be patient
- we will be contacting you.

Q: Is there a waiting list for Suites and/or Exec level rooms?
A: We already have large numbers of people on the waiting lists for these
rooms, and are not taking any more names for these - sorry.

Q: Will you have a waiting list for regular rooms at the hotel?
A: We're sorry, but we are unable to offer a waiting list for regular rooms.
If we eventually have enough cancellation to allow us to re-open the block
at the Doubletree we will do so and announce it beforehand.

Q: Will you have an overflow hotel?
A: We are presently negotiating with another hotel for rooms at a
'convention' rate. We are hoping to get this available as quickly as
possible, and will announce when this is available and what rates we can
offer.

Q: I was able to book some rooms at the con rate and another at full rate,
will you be able to convert them to the con rate.
A: The hotel will let us do that for some rooms, but they will eventually
cut us off form any more requests. We will contact you in email regarding
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From rtrabbitny at aol.com  Fri Apr 11 19:40:03 2008
From: rtrabbitny at aol.com (rtrabbitny at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:40:03 -0400
Subject: FL: Need two performers to be Care Bears in Ocean City NJ parade
	April 26
Message-ID: <8CA6A447FBEAD30-F24-3DBA@mblk-d13.sysops.aol.com>

I need two performers to be Tenderheart Bear and Love-A-Lot Bear in the 
DooDah Parade on Saturday April 26 in Ocean City NJ.  Wearers should be 
about 5'7" in height.  The bears will ride in a boat in the parade.  
Shared complimentary hotel accomodations available.  Please respond 
ASAP!

Rapid T. Rabbit


From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Fri Apr 11 19:44:07 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:44:07 -0400
Subject: FL: Need two performers to be Care Bears in Ocean City NJ
	parade April 26
In-Reply-To: <8CA6A447FBEAD30-F24-3DBA@mblk-d13.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CA6A447FBEAD30-F24-3DBA@mblk-d13.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4165e4980804111644m2c7c9b01qd95fda61f45fad03@mail.gmail.com>

o-o dang I'd love to do this but I live in Ontario x-x also is it a paid
position?

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 7:40 PM, <rtrabbitny at aol.com> wrote:

> I need two performers to be Tenderheart Bear and Love-A-Lot Bear in the
> DooDah Parade on Saturday April 26 in Ocean City NJ.  Wearers should be
> about 5'7" in height.  The bears will ride in a boat in the parade.  Shared
> complimentary hotel accomodations available.  Please respond ASAP!
>
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From rtrabbitny at aol.com  Fri Apr 11 20:36:14 2008
From: rtrabbitny at aol.com (rtrabbitny at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:36:14 -0400
Subject: FL: Need two performers to be Care Bears in Ocean City NJ
 parade April 26
In-Reply-To: <4165e4980804111644m2c7c9b01qd95fda61f45fad03@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CA6A447FBEAD30-F24-3DBA@mblk-d13.sysops.aol.com>
	<4165e4980804111644m2c7c9b01qd95fda61f45fad03@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CA6A4C592CA593-F24-3F9D@mblk-d13.sysops.aol.com>


No, they are official costumes that I own and this is an unliscensed 
appearance and therefore unpaid....but a pretty fun one.
The suiters who wore them last year can't make it to NJ this time.

Here is video of the appearance from last year...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C9byC5H_qo

Rapid T. Rabbit


-----Original Message-----
From: TashuMitsu Dracosana <tashumitsu at gmail.com>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 7:44 pm
Subject: Re: FL: Need two performers to be Care Bears in Ocean City NJ 
parade April 26


o-o dang I'd love to do this but I live in Ontario x-x also is it a 
paid position?


On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 7:40 PM, <rtrabbitny at aol.com> wrote:

I need two performers to be Tenderheart Bear and Love-A-Lot Bear in the 
DooDah Parade on Saturday April 26 in Ocean City NJ. ?Wearers should be 
about 5'7" in height. ?The bears will ride in a boat in the parade. 
?Shared complimentary hotel accomodations available. ?Please respond 
ASAP!

Rapid T. Rabbit

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From pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 12 20:17:00 2008
From: pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com (Kit Kat)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:17:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Need two performers to be Care Bears in Ocean City NJ
	parade April 26
In-Reply-To: <8CA6A4C592CA593-F24-3F9D@mblk-d13.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <539450.45560.qm@web53812.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

sounds like fun. wish i could but im in az with no way. I love care bears soo much.

rtrabbitny at aol.com wrote: 
No, they are official costumes that I own and this is an unliscensed 
appearance and therefore unpaid....but a pretty fun one.
The suiters who wore them last year can't make it to NJ this time.

Here is video of the appearance from last year...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C9byC5H_qo

Rapid T. Rabbit


-----Original Message-----
From: TashuMitsu Dracosana 
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 7:44 pm
Subject: Re: FL: Need two performers to be Care Bears in Ocean City NJ 
parade April 26


o-o dang I'd love to do this but I live in Ontario x-x also is it a 
paid position?


On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 7:40 PM,  wrote:

I need two performers to be Tenderheart Bear and Love-A-Lot Bear in the 
DooDah Parade on Saturday April 26 in Ocean City NJ.  Wearers should be 
about 5'7" in height.  The bears will ride in a boat in the parade. 
 Shared complimentary hotel accomodations available.  Please respond 
ASAP!

Rapid T. Rabbit

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From wonder_moose_blue at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 12 22:36:52 2008
From: wonder_moose_blue at yahoo.com (Mark Sinicki)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:36:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 23, Issue 20
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Message-ID: <894534.30442.qm@web55215.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

Actually, I have a few issues of Rocket Racoon, including the final episode. Collected many of the Spectacular Spider Ham comics. Some of those characters would make great fursuits. Like J. Jonah Jackal as The Black Jackal.
  

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I have not had to do that in a long time :P

Back to my lurk..





On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 01:00:27PM -0700, loop furwalker wrote:
> 
> Fox costumes with tails should be able to fit into bigger, or mid-size
> cars, maybe SUV's....etc...
> 
> 
> 
> Wolf costumes with tails should be able to fit into about the same
> ---- depending on the size of the animals you're using to
> compare-----------
> 
> 
> 
> Hey! That's areat idea I just came up with!! A suit comparison chart,
> unless somebody else has already thought of it ------- any other ideas
> for charts? I suggest you try those Alan Foster painting books -------
> they've got charts in them.....etc...both cartoons and *real*
> items......etc....or, and/or The Illustrated Encyclopedias Of Animals
> (various authors). I had a whole lot of them ----- they're now in
> storage out-of-state for the moment. (If I had them I'd be able
> explain more about them and give you some measurements: examples: the
> lion, the horse, the dog, birds and rodents ------ mostly mammals
> (most advanced creatures I know)
> 
> 
> 
> I also like raccoons ----- Do you know anyone that likes "Rocket
> Raccoon", besides me? I've got the premiere "Hulk" comic of his
> character and his (RR's) mini-series.....etc...I like the way Marvel
> Comics draws them both (not too raunchy, except for some scenes with
> humans and other animals ----- not per or fur verted ------ the humans
> are with humans and animals are with other animals, as well as
> "Killer-Clown" robots, and the villains.
> 
> 
> 
> (You wrote about Foxcoon ----- do you have any photos and/or
> attatchments of himself and/or his character ------ or, just simply:
> what's his website code? Let me know if you can.)
> 
> 
> 
> (Anything else I should know about? I'll try to give you more stats
> and sizes of suits ---- if/when I take
> measurements..........etc....let me know too, if you can)
> 
> 
> 
> I like the format of this listing ----- the others too!! See you
> sometime!!
> 
> 
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From laceaurora at gmail.com  Sun Apr 13 02:45:21 2008
From: laceaurora at gmail.com (Lace Aurora)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:45:21 -0700
Subject: FL: Need two performers to be Care Bears in Ocean City NJ
	parade April 26
In-Reply-To: <539450.45560.qm@web53812.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <8CA6A4C592CA593-F24-3F9D@mblk-d13.sysops.aol.com>
	<539450.45560.qm@web53812.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <975ecbe80804122345u14932c6ev6b80b2b93b37e333@mail.gmail.com>

that is cool. I actually have a plan in Sea Isle City, NJ. so Im like
5-10minutes from Ocean City, NJ. Ashame Im not there atm

-Lace

On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Kit Kat <pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> sounds like fun. wish i could but im in az with no way. I love care bears
> soo much.
>
> *rtrabbitny at aol.com* wrote:
>
>
> No, they are official costumes that I own and this is an unliscensed
> appearance and therefore unpaid....but a pretty fun one.
> The suiters who wore them last year can't make it to NJ this time.
>
> Here is video of the appearance from last year...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C9byC5H_qo
>
> Rapid T. Rabbit
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TashuMitsu Dracosana
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Sent: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 7:44 pm
> Subject: Re: FL: Need two performers to be Care Bears in Ocean City NJ
> parade April 26
>
>
> o-o dang I'd love to do this but I live in Ontario x-x also is it a
> paid position?
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 7:40 PM, wrote:
>
> I need two performers to be Tenderheart Bear and Love-A-Lot Bear in the
> DooDah Parade on Saturday April 26 in Ocean City NJ.  Wearers should be
> about 5'7" in height.  The bears will ride in a boat in the parade.
>  Shared complimentary hotel accomodations available.  Please respond
> ASAP!
>
> Rapid T. Rabbit
>
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From mhagen_2001 at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 13 12:56:27 2008
From: mhagen_2001 at yahoo.com (Patch)
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:56:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 24, Issue 15
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> From: Kit Kat <pixie_da_dead_juggla at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: FL: Need two performers to be Care
> Bears in Ocean City NJ parade April 26

> 
> sounds like fun. wish i could but im in az with no
> way. I love care bears soo much.

Yeah, feel the same here.

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From 12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us  Thu Apr 17 14:11:59 2008
From: 12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us (Arthur Hamilton)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:11:59 -0600
Subject: FL: Need two performers to be Care Bears in Ocean City NJ
	parade April 26
Message-ID: <1208455919.9664672012AHAMILTON1@Davis.k12.ut.us>



-----Original Message-----
From: rtrabbitny at aol.com
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:40:03 -0400
Subject: FL: Need two performers to be Care Bears in Ocean City NJ parade April 26

I need two performers to be Tenderheart Bear and Love-A-Lot Bear in the 
DooDah Parade on Saturday April 26 in Ocean City NJ.  Wearers should be 
about 5'7" in height.  The bears will ride in a boat in the parade.  
Shared complimentary hotel accomodations available.  Please respond 
ASAP!

Rapid T. Rabbit

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do you pay for the flight?if so, e-mail me and tell me when to come, and where to go!i live in utah, and am 5 feet 8 inches!! my e-mail adress is 12ahamilton1 at davis.k12.ut.us, hope to hear from you!!

slyly fox



From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Fri Apr 18 14:01:56 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:01:56 -0400
Subject: FL: Need two performers to be Care Bears in Ocean City NJ
	parade April 26
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References: <1208455919.9664672012AHAMILTON1@Davis.k12.ut.us>
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tru tru, if the flight was paid for I'd be there in a heartbeat ^^

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Arthur Hamilton <
12AHAMILTON1 at davis.k12.ut.us> wrote:

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rtrabbitny at aol.com
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:40:03 -0400
> Subject: FL: Need two performers to be Care Bears in Ocean City NJ parade
> April 26
>
> I need two performers to be Tenderheart Bear and Love-A-Lot Bear in the
> DooDah Parade on Saturday April 26 in Ocean City NJ.  Wearers should be
> about 5'7" in height.  The bears will ride in a boat in the parade.
> Shared complimentary hotel accomodations available.  Please respond
> ASAP!
>
> Rapid T. Rabbit
>
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> where to go!i live in utah, and am 5 feet 8 inches!! my e-mail adress is
> 12ahamilton1 at davis.k12.ut.us, hope to hear from you!!
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From tygrcwby at hotmail.com  Fri Apr 18 00:11:05 2008
From: tygrcwby at hotmail.com (Tyger Roth)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:11:05 -0500
Subject: FL: MFM 12 - The Dirty Dozen - Office Space Style!!
Message-ID: <BAY131-DAV6D0DF1DFDF9505A3A7A7AD8E40@phx.gbl>

Oh, oh, and I almost forgot. Ahh, I'm also gonna need you to go ahead and come to Memphis on Friday and Saturday and Sunday, too..

 

Skunky Scuttlebutt

Labor Day Weekend 2008

Guest of Honor: Details Announced SOON!!!!

 

There are ONLY 133 Days Remaining before Tyger Opens MFM 12 with these words  "Welcome Home".    That's right, we are quickly approaching the start of Mephit FurMeet 2008, the place so many of us now call home.   Make your plans now to attend one of the BEST gatherings in the furry community. 

 

--=={ New and improved website!! }==--

 

Through the hard work of Rama and Red Card we have a newly designed MFM website this year with lots of new features. Check out everything that's going on over there!

http://www.mephitfurmeet.org 



--=={ Hotel Reservation Info, Rooms Going Fast! }==--

 

We will once again be in the Holiday Inn Select Memphis Airport, located at 2240 Democrat Road, Memphis TN 38132-1807. The special Mephit Fur Meet rate is $99 per night for 1-4 people in the room. Rooms are available with one king size bed or 2 double beds and your choice of either smoking or nonsmoking. The layout of the hotel is perfect for MFM with the main level being on the 3rd floor of the hotel allowing everyone to be either on the main level or not more than 2 floors up or down. So it makes getting to panels, socializing in the Garden Court (a huge atrium area of the hotel) or fursuiting a breeze. You can book your room online at:

http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/h/d/sl/1/en/cwshome/DPRD-79FJRE/MEMDR/website/

or

Call 800-653-6524 or email mfmdirector at hotmail.com to make your reservation!

Don't wait till it's too late! Suites are already SOLD OUT!!

 

The hotel promises that they have a lot of the issues encountered worked out for this year. (remember we had a total staff change just a few weeks before the con!)

 

--=={ MFM Spirituality Track}==-- 

 

We are looking for panelists!  If you can share your expertise or you have resources you would like us to include in this year's topics, please contact us. I guarantee we'll have you working overtime.

Pshaw and I have been working hard implementing your suggestions from last year.  This year's focus will be Pan-Asian mythology.  We'll be looking at animal symbology and therianthropic connections in the literature of India, China, and Japan.  Almost everyone knows about the fox maidens and the raccoon pranksters but we'll be looking at some of the less recognized figures: phoenix, bat, chicken, and others.

Our mythological totem animal will be the eastern dragon.

This year we've also decided to add a new panel.  We will be discussing the mythology of a common animal and we've chosen the horse for the debut of this panel.

At your request, the meditation panel will be split into two separate panels, each an hour long. The first will be for those who don't know how to meditate or need a refresher.  We will explain the process, answer questions, and you can share your own experiences.  The second panel will be the guided meditation panel in which you'll be taken on a journey to possibly meet your totem animal.

We intend to continue the Christian furs round table but we need someone to coordinate the panel, come up with a topic, and lead it. We would also like to expand our offerings in this area.   A panel addressing the symbolic aspects of animal mythology in the Bible and the Christian faith has been suggested.  If you can volunteer your time, please contact us.

Pshaw will be hosting a panel which will show you how to make totem shrines out of common objects such as Altoids tins.

We are also trying to put together a panel about shapeshifting from the shamanic perspective.  If you can volunteer your experience, knowledge or resources, we need you.

We're look forward to seeing you at MFM 2008!

 

--=={ Gaming Information }==-- 

 

MFM Gaming is coming at you with something new and fresh for 2008. Now, we're going to offer you the chance to run games and potentially earn Volunteer credit!   The new system will allow us to schedule your games, find you players, and run successful and fun games.  If you're  interested in running a game or gaming event at MFM, please send a  note to jarrodhenry at gmail.com and talk about what game you want to  run.  ALSO!  If you're interested in PLAYING a game at MFM, please  send that note to JarrodHenry at gmail.com, and we'll try to get it set  up.

We specifically would like people interested in playing or running JadeClaw/IronClaw, D&D 4th edition, WOW TCG, and MTG to give us a shout out on the email.

MFM Gaming this year will strive to bring more players to the table  and a more cohesive gaming structure than ever.  Back will be DDR, the  poker tournament, and all the things that MFM Gaming has brought you  in the last year.  Besides the new scheduling setup, we're also going  to offer Smash Brothers Brawl!

 So, come forward, gamers, make yourselves known either through
 jarrodhenry at gmail.com or on GamerFurs.NET and get ready for MFM 2008!

 

--=={ Registration }==-- 

 

We know it's all fun and games, but hey, we have to pay our bills too! That's where registration comes in. We strive to keep our prices low and have not had a price increase in over 6 years. We know you work hard to earn your money, so we try to give you the most bang for your con-going buck. Not only do we have a regular membership, but if you have some more money to spend and want to help out the convention, sign up for one of our higher levels. We'll even give you some nice thank you gifts for giving us your extra dough.

 

Preregistration is currently open until August 1st, 2008. By buying a registration now, not only do you save some money, but it allows us to make sure you get your swag at the door. However, just signing up for preregistration doesn't get you in the door. Any unpaid registration after August 1st will be dropped and you will be forced to sign up again at the door.

http://www.memphitfurmeet.org/registration

 

Don't worry if you can't register before the deadline, we'll still let you come and register at the door! 

 

Registration will be open Thursday evening, all day Friday, Saturday morning and early afternoon and Sunday morning.

 

Rates for the convention are as follows:

SUPPORTING:
Include a tshirt and program mailed to you. Does NOT include a membership for you to attend the convention but does allow you to pay a reduced price of $20 at the door for a total admission of $35.
$15

ATTENDING:
Includes a free tshirt and admission to the ice cream social
Dec 1 to Aug 1, 2008: $35
AT THE DOOR: $40

SPONSORSHIP:
Includes a limited edition print and a special special thank you gift
$60

SUPERSPONSORSHIP:
Includes everything above AND your print is framed, you get a cocktail party with the GOH AND a special Supersponsor shirt
$100

DAILY PASS:
Available for Friday, Saturday, or Sunday. Allows you access to all of the day's events. Does NOT include a Tshirt. Can be upgraded to a full membership, including Tshirt, after expiration. Available at the convention only.
$20

CHILDS MEMBERSHIP:
Available for ages 5 - 15 when accompanied by a paying parent and it includes the tshirt. Under age 5 are free, but won't get a tshirt. For more information and how to register your child, please contact registration.
$25

Please remember, all attendees MUST present photo identification (driver's license, passport, college or military I.D.) when registering/checking in at the event. There will be ABSOLUTELY NO EXCEPTIONS MADE. Also anyone under 18 must be accompanied by a parent or guardian or have a notarized letter giving them permission to be at MFM (email mfmdirector at hotmail.com with any questions)

 

--=={ MFM Needs You! }==--

 

MFM needs volunteers, are you interested in helping make MFM 12 the best Furmeet ever? You can earn time and a half for helping initial set-up and teardown Thursday and Monday. So, for every 1 hour you work those days, you earn 1.5 hours! 

More info can be found here: http://www.mephitfurmeet.org/volunteering



--=={ Room and Rideshare Board! }==--

 

Need a Ride to MFM?  Need a place to sleep when you get there?  On our web page http://www.mephitfurmeet.org  you can post a message on the room and ride share lists and find all you need

 

--=={ Tiger Haven Auction }==-- 



For years Mephit Fur Meet has proudly hosted a charity auction with all proceeds going to Tiger Haven Sanctuary. Hikaru has done a wonderful job organizing this auction for years but has finally decided it is time to pass the torch, this year the auction will be run by Hikaru's once assistant, PrincessB. 

 

I hope to make my first year a huge success but I have to have you for that! It is not too early to start looking for items you would like to donate. Without your donations this action would not be possible and that makes the big kitties sad! We are still looking for donations for this year's Tiger Haven Charity Auction. This can be art, commissions, clean plush, anything Furry related

 

Remember, this is not some faceless organization that you have no clue how much is really going to help the cats. The Tiger Haven ladies are there ever year able to answer any questions you have, and you can check out their website at www.TigerHaven.org

If you have any questions or will be unable to attend MFM but want to donate something for the action feel free to contact PrincessB and she will gladly help in any way she can.

Thank you for continuing to make The Tiger Haven Charity Auction a big success every year!

 

For even more info see http://www.mephitfurmeet.org/charity 

 

--=={ Programming }==-- 

 

Want to share your knowledge? If you would like to take on the task of heading up a panel, email the name and a brief description of your panel to our programming director, Maui.  Contact Information can be found at http://www.mephitfurmeet.org/programming

 

--=={ LAN Gaming Information }==-- 

 

Once again this year, MFM will be featuring LAN gaming. Bring your machine and participate in a free-for-all-furry-fragfest! The LAN will have (at least) limited Megabit support this year. We'll also have some new games.  Expect to see a lot of the newest games!  Requests are welcome. We are also planning a couple exhibition matches you won't want to miss.  More details on these in the near future.

 

--=={ Video Room }==-- 

 

The MFM Video Room, serving your Viewing Pleasure! 

We had a lot of fun in 2007, showing all the Best in Furry vids and movies... and we're doing it again in 2008!  We will once again be having the "Viewers Choice" timeslots that allow you to Vote for the vids you want to see.  Some of these choices will be the Furry Classics, but some of them will be chosen from the Newest available movies!  We will also bring back the other Favored events from previous years, which include "Film @ Eleven", "Weird Stuff found on the Web", "Fans & Freaks" - which was partially filmed at MFM, and (of course!) "Meet the Feebles".  So check those Schedules, and stop in the Video Room once again to see what Great Furry Vids we are showing for your
viewing enjoyment!

 

--=={ Video Room }==-- 

 

Here is a short synopsis of what I had planned for this year's Meet:

1. The Thursday Night Open Call Show is once again planned, with lots of new music, puppets, and performers. .

2. "Who's Puppet is it Anyway" is also arranged. Just like the TV show, puppeteers will act out a series of funny themes and actions. Last year, the puppeteers had a blast, as did the audience.

3. Panels: 

One on "Behind the scenes", where a beginning puppeteer can see how the stage, sound, and video is set up. Also, give tips on performing behind the stage.


Another panel will be about "Beginning Puppeteering: You have a Puppet...Now what?" This panel will include basic 'how to' tips and techniques: how to animate the puppet, how to lip synch, how to come up with a short script, etc.



--=={ T-Shirt Contest }==-- 

 

1) What's up for grabs?

There are three chances for your artwork to be selected for MFM's T-Shirts.

**Attendees Choice - The winner of the Attendees Choice will have their artwork featured on the front of the MFM T-Shirts.   This is chosen by you, the attendees (natch). 
**Director's Choice - The winner of the Director's Choice will be featured on the back of the MFM T-Shirt 
**Staff Choice - This will be chosen by the staff and be featured on their staff shirts
Each winner will receive a free attending membership.

 

***Complete details and rules on the website http://www.mephitfurmeet.org ***

 

--=={ MFM Masquerade }==-- 

 

"I'm also going to need to have you come in ... on Sunday."

Yes, that's right, it's time to start thinking about the Masquerade at Mephit Fur Meet.  Now's the time to start coming up with ideas.  Remember that there is a Theme award, and this years theme is "Office Space."  The other thing people might not have known from last year, is that there is sign up for the Masq on Friday night.  I do have cookies there for those that sign up early.  It helps me find out if we need to find filler.  If you don't have an act, I am planning on having a script or two available, if I can convince the 
right people.  There will be more details along the way.

 

--=={ Dance/Karaoke Information }==-- 

 

Can you DJ?  Can you spell DJ?  Do you know someone named DJ?

The MFM dances are being 'regrooved' this year.  You wanted more 'party' type music and less 'rave' so we're looking for talented DJ's to play at this year's convention.  Experience with rock, roll, pop, house and disco is strongly preferred.   Amateur and
professionals are equally encouraged to submit an audition mix to sumatrae98 at yahoo.com.  Selections will be made in the Spring.  If you've already submitted, you don't have to do it again. 

 

--=={ Share Your Interests With Others }==-- 

 

MFM recognizes the diversity in interests among its attendees.   In an effort to provide folks with special interests with a place to meet and greet, MFM will allow groups to make use of its unused space, free of cost, to its attendees.   For more information, please contact Tyger Cowboy.  This will be provided on a 'first come, first served' basis.

 

--=={ Mailing Lists }==-- 

 

General chat for those interested in or attending MFM 2005 can be found at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mfm-chat 

We also have direct mailing lists for news and related posts regarding MFM. This information can be found on our website. Also on our website is a new and improved message board system where you can post your thoughts.

 

--=={ Dealer's Den }==-- 

 

Have something to sell? We have the space for you. Registration is currently 
open for the dealer's room for MFM 2008. Rates start at $25 for one table. Full 
details and registration paperwork can be found at:

http://www.mephitfurmeet.org/dealer

Dealer's tables don't come with any membership, so one must be purchased 
separately at time of registering as a dealer

 

--=={ Program Book }==-- 

 

Conbook needs flair!

Give us your art!
Give us your short stories!
Make your 2008 MFM conbook pretty!

Email me! Get in touch via email at http://www.mephitfurmeet.org/conbook

 

Want to Advertise in the program book? Great! Here's the lowdown on costs: 

Inside the book: 

$40 for a full page 

$25 for a half page 

$15 for a quarter page 



Cover Ads (Full page only): 

$50 inside covers 

$75 outside rear cover 



Advertisements should be in black & white or grayscale. Ads can be either emailed or sent by postal service. Payment for advertisements should be remitted to our main address (provided at the end of this message) Ad space will be done on a first-come, first-served basis.

 

MFM 12...BE THERE!!!!

 

SO Get ready..get set..GET REGISTERED!!!!

 
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From francisco-sender-6f5fe9 at vulpes.net  Thu Apr 24 21:36:32 2008
From: francisco-sender-6f5fe9 at vulpes.net (Francisco Azinsan)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:36:32 -0500
Subject: FL: FC2009 April Newsletter
Message-ID: <20080425013632.GA71740@critter.net>



1.  Hotel News
2.  Costume Con Party
3.  Pre Registration
4.  Get Involved!
5.  FC09 Video Room wants you!
6.  Dealer?s Room update
7.  Next staff meeting


1.  Hotel News:

a) Doubletree Hotel completely Sold Out.

APOLOGIES: Yes, we did something that has never occurred at the  Doubletree for
any event, ever. We sold out the entire hotel in less than one  week. In fact,
the hotel expanded our block on some of our bridge nights to  pretty much
capacity without requiring us to sign another contract. We  already were at
capacity on our primary nights.

The Suite and Exec Level Waiting lists are full.  Last year, we made  it to the
July fourth weekend before completely selling out. Our apologies  for its
suddenness this year. We truly did not expect the situation to unfold as
rapidly as it did. Be assured that the matter has been escalated to the Board
of AAE, Inc. to take into account as they pursue contracts for  FC2010 and
beyond.

CANCELLATIONS: While we do expect some cancellations, they tend to occur late
in the year. If we have enough cancellations to matter, we'll  reopen the block
there. Our cancellation rates in the past are usually less  than 10% but we
will be watching closely in case we can reopen that block. We urge any one with
a Room who discovers they will not be able to join  us next January to please
make that decision and to cancel their reservation  as soon as they can.

SHARING WITH FRIENDS: We realize that many of you regularly share a room with
specific friends at the convention.  If this is the case, please contact them
and see if you have more rooms booked between you than  you will be using, and
contact the hotel to cancel any extras.  This will help us enormously as we try
to get as many people into the DoubleTree as  possible. 

Additionally, we urge anyone who has spare space or is looking for  space to
use our Ride/Room Forum at the following url:

<http://www.furtherconfusion.org/forums/>

RUMOR CONTROL: One bit of rumor control, it was rumored that individuals were
booking entire large blocks of rooms. We have reviewed the booking report and
compared any multiple bookings to past year's patterns.  Nothing unusual is
apparent in that review.

SPECIAL REQUESTS: We expect to have emails out for all Special  Requests by
April 21. Please be patient with us until then. You can imagine how many emails
our Hotel Staff has to write after confirming that the  requests are in order.

We do have a few Fursuit Floor transfers still  available if you already have a
regular room at the Doubletree Hotel. You can  continue to request those via
the normal procedure in our Hotel FAQ.

b) Overflow Hotel

After some quick work, we have obtained an overflow hotel just as we did last
year at the Holiday Inn San Jose. That room block will open on  May 1, 2008.
All rooms there are Double Queen and will be available at the  rate of $95 per
night. Parking is free for guests at the Holiday Inn. We also  have a small
block of Suites there for $199 per night and will be offering  those to folks
on the Suite Waiting List we already have compiled. If we have any left after
we do that, we will open that waiting list up to additional submissions.

SHUTTLE SERVICE: As we did last year, we will have a Shuttle Service  that runs
between the two Hotel's to help assist those in the overflow  hotel and those
in the Doubletree visiting friends at the Holiday Inn.

For information on the overflow Hotel and how to book there when the  block
opens on May 1, 2008, please review the following web page:

<http://www.furtherconfusion.org/fc2009/hotel>

One piece of good news is that we have already discussed expanding  the block
at the Holiday Inn and should be able to do so if we sell out the  initial
overflow block. We can't promise, but we wanted folks to know we were planning
ahead as best we can. We have to be judicious in our block size there since if
we do not fill that block to 80% capacity come convention time. After last
minute cancellations, the con would have to buy any  unsold rooms.


2.  Costume Con Party

Further Confusion is having a room party at Costume Con on Saturday,  April
26th starting at 7pm. Sorry, that we do not know the room  number at this
point, but look for flyers at Costume Con for more info.


3.  Pre Registration

<http://www.furtherconfusion.org/fc2009/registration>

It's still $40 to pre-register for Further Confusion. Don't delay, do  it now !


4.  Get Involved!

While it is only April, it's never too early to get involved with  Further
Confusion. We have a number of open positions across the entire scope of staff.
Being a staff member can be both challenging and rewarding. If there is a
specific field you are interested in helping out with, please email
hr at furtherconfusion.org and mention what you would like to help  out
with, and it will be directed to the appropriate department.


5.  FC09 Video Room wants you!

Have you ever wanted to work for FC, but didn't know how your  
knowledge of Furry films, videos, and collection could help? Well,  
FC09 is working to rework our video room. This position would include  
putting together a playlist, managing staff to run it from the hours  
of 6-7pm until about 8 - 9 am, and to make sure our video content is  
great for our convention goers. For more information or to share your  
ideas for the FC09 Video Room, please contact  
events at furtherconfusion.org. If you would be interested in taking on  
this position, please email HR at furtherconfusion.org and tell them you  
want to run or work in the FC09 Video Room.


6.  Dealer?s Room update

We have presently sold out of all tables other than the Half Table size 
spaces - and even those are going fast.

If you would like one of those half-table spaces, download the form from 
the Dealers Room website <http://www.furtherconfusion.org/fc2009/dealers>, 
print it out, and then fill it in requesting a half table. Include a check 
for US$65.00 (US$70.00 if you want a space with electricity), and then 
mail it to the address on the form. Act quick - these final spaces will 
sell out soon!

Any of you being REALLY observant might notice that this is EXACTLY (except 
for the year in the URL) as the one we had in our May 2007 newsletter for 
the 2008 convention. Yes, we only have HALF tables left again.


7.  Next staff meeting

Our next staff meeting will be on May 10th, starting at 1pm in the San Jose
DoubleTree hotel. Parking is free - we will be providing stickers at the
meeting which will allow the parking staff to know you were with Further
Confusion, and let you out without needing to pay.

-- 
Further Confusion
info at furtherconfusion.org
http://www.furtherconfusion.org/

From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sun Apr 27 09:06:17 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:06:17 -0700
Subject: FL: FC2009 April Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <20080425013632.GA71740@critter.net>
References: <20080425013632.GA71740@critter.net>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0804270606m2099b80foc3cf63dd9a7455bf@mail.gmail.com>

>  We have to be judicious in our block size there since if
>  we do not fill that block to 80% capacity come convention time. After last
>  minute cancellations, the con would have to buy any  unsold rooms.

Is that a real problem? As I understood it the Holiday Inn San Jose
room block has all ways been filled every year and other hotels in the
area had to be used.

Donkey

From jambrassard at earthlink.net  Tue Apr 29 13:33:13 2008
From: jambrassard at earthlink.net (Michel Brassard)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:33:13 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: FL: NOT going to RainFurrest 2008
Message-ID: <8252266.1209490393508.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

For some time, I had been thinking of going to RainFurrest, but that has changed.

As much as I'd like to fly to Seattle for that fur con, there is an event that same weekend on Saturday that I nave been attending the last two years and will not pass up going to again this year:  

The 20th National Skunks as Pets Show, in Daytona Beach, FL.
http://skunksaspets.com/show.htm

I will be again bringing Basil with me to show him (maybe win a few more ribbons too) and get together with other fellow pet skunk owners.  Maybe I'll go to MFF instead.  Anybody going there needing a roommate?

J. A. Michel Brassard - a.k.a. Michel Mephit



From hyenafur at gmail.com  Tue Apr 29 15:17:57 2008
From: hyenafur at gmail.com (Jonathan Jones)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:17:57 -0700
Subject: FL: GTA IV RELEASED!! (GamerTag Exchange)
Message-ID: <beded4ed0804291217j40a8f50dq82352fc0c867535f@mail.gmail.com>

Today is the big Release Day for what has to be the most controversial game
of all time.

I know alot of you that will own (or eventually own) the game "Grand Theft
Auto IV" will probably be stuck on the Single Player portion of it for
sometime.  But, rather than playing with the lot of deusch bags and immature
12 year olds that shouldn't even be playing the game, I decided to get with
friends ONLY to play this during the multiplayer sessions.  People I at
least know are mature enough, and that won't act all l33t on the microphone.


I own the game on Xbox 360.
My gamer tag:  "Laphin"

Feel free to add me if I'm not on your list already, or just mail me back
your GamerTag personally.
I can't wait to see you guys in Liberty City!!!


( I can't believe GameSpot gave it a 10/10! )

- Laphin Hyena
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Tue Apr 29 22:51:51 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:51:51 -0700
Subject: FL: GTA IV RELEASED!! (GamerTag Exchange)
In-Reply-To: <beded4ed0804291217j40a8f50dq82352fc0c867535f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <beded4ed0804291217j40a8f50dq82352fc0c867535f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0804291951wf53fd20mb5fa5eae38fbfd15@mail.gmail.com>

And this has to do with fursuiting how?

Donkey

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Jonathan Jones <hyenafur at gmail.com> wrote:
> Today is the big Release Day for what has to be the most controversial game
> of all time.
>
> I know alot of you that will own (or eventually own) the game "Grand Theft
> Auto IV" will probably be stuck on the Single Player portion of it for
> sometime.  But, rather than playing with the lot of deusch bags and immature
> 12 year olds that shouldn't even be playing the game, I decided to get with
> friends ONLY to play this during the multiplayer sessions.  People I at
> least know are mature enough, and that won't act all l33t on the microphone.
>
>
> I own the game on Xbox 360.
> My gamer tag:  "Laphin"
>
> Feel free to add me if I'm not on your list already, or just mail me back
> your GamerTag personally.
> I can't wait to see you guys in Liberty City!!!
>
>
> ( I can't believe GameSpot gave it a 10/10! )
>
> - Laphin Hyena
>
> _______________________________________________
>  _______________________________________________
>  Fursuit Mail list.
>  To edit your subscription, visit:
> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
>
>

From wildfox34 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 30 07:42:51 2008
From: wildfox34 at gmail.com (Mike Johnson)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:42:51 -0400
Subject: FL: GTA IV RELEASED!! (GamerTag Exchange)
In-Reply-To: <beded4ed0804291217j40a8f50dq82352fc0c867535f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <beded4ed0804291217j40a8f50dq82352fc0c867535f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <68be40570804300442p207980bfy85bdb0ecca9ad37@mail.gmail.com>

Sounds fun.  But still, wrong list for this. ;)

Wildfox

On 4/29/08, Jonathan Jones <hyenafur at gmail.com> wrote:
> Today is the big Release Day for what has to be the most controversial game
> of all time.
>
> I know alot of you that will own (or eventually own) the game "Grand Theft
> Auto IV" will probably be stuck on the Single Player portion of it for
> sometime.  But, rather than playing with the lot of deusch bags and immature
> 12 year olds that shouldn't even be playing the game, I decided to get with
> friends ONLY to play this during the multiplayer sessions.  People I at
> least know are mature enough, and that won't act all l33t on the microphone.
>
>
> I own the game on Xbox 360.
> My gamer tag:  "Laphin"
>
> Feel free to add me if I'm not on your list already, or just mail me back
> your GamerTag personally.
> I can't wait to see you guys in Liberty City!!!
>
>
> ( I can't believe GameSpot gave it a 10/10! )
>
> - Laphin Hyena
>

From yappyfox at thefoxden.com  Thu May  1 10:23:45 2008
From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (Yappy Sly Fox)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 10:23:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: FL: Fursuit.org Crash Recovery
Message-ID: <43360.208.5.41.226.1209651825.squirrel@webmail.thefoxden.com>


Ok, it seems I have enough to get fursuit.org back up online.

The mail list is in tact.

The mail list archives from 2006-current are in tact.

1996-2006 Mail archives are crippled, not sure if anyone actually dug into
these, so I don't know if there is any need to try to salvage them

The fursuit.org members list display and editing is gone..  but again, I
don't know if anyone actually used this to make it worth while repairing
(the database is intact, just none of the website processing to
display/edit it is)

WIKI is in Tact.  However it is in Read Only Mode for the time being,
pending some password linking code that was lost.



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From yappyfox at thefoxden.com  Thu May  1 13:59:37 2008
From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (Yappy Sly Fox)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 13:59:37 -0400
Subject: FL: Wiki is back online.
Message-ID: <20080501175937.GA5718@penfold.furryhost.com>

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Well, my dumpster diving of scattered code proved usefull, and the wiki is now back to member editing.  (I thought this was going to take longer than 
it did..)

I think we are mostly up now..


- -- 

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From tim1 at timduru.org  Thu May  1 14:16:50 2008
From: tim1 at timduru.org (tim1 at timduru.org)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 18:16:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: FL: Wiki is back online.
In-Reply-To: <20080501175937.GA5718@penfold.furryhost.com>
References: <20080501175937.GA5718@penfold.furryhost.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.1.00.0805011816140.11339@j3.timduru.org>


Thanks for the good work :)


> Well, my dumpster diving of scattered code proved usefull, and the wiki is now back to member editing.  (I thought this was going to take longer than
> it did..)
>
> I think we are mostly up now..

From stego at cpl.net  Thu May  1 15:26:19 2008
From: stego at cpl.net (Stego)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 12:26:19 -0700
Subject: FL: Wiki is back online.
In-Reply-To: <20080501175937.GA5718@penfold.furryhost.com>
References: <20080501175937.GA5718@penfold.furryhost.com>
Message-ID: <481A195B.3040303@cpl.net>

Yay Yappy!
  thanks lots for the work at keeping up the list and server!

 From one admin to another
-Stego

Yappy Sly Fox wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>
> Well, my dumpster diving of scattered code proved usefull, and the wiki is now back to member editing.  (I thought this was going to take longer than 
> it did..)
>
> I think we are mostly up now..
>
>
> - -- 
>
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>  \  /\   / ..__.   The Yappy Sly Fox ^..^  (vulpes yappaloticus)
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From rigeldc at verizon.net  Thu May  1 20:03:15 2008
From: rigeldc at verizon.net (Brian Harris)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 20:03:15 -0400
Subject: FL: Anthrocon 2008 Masquerade Information (5/08)
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20080501200238.041479d8@incoming.verizon.net>

Anthrocon 2008 is coming, June 26-29! If you are a costumer or visual 
artist and would like to participate in the Masquerade, here is what you 
should do:

1. Visit Anthrocon 2008's homepage for convention details 
(http://www.anthrocon.org).
2. Review the latest draft of the Anthrocon 2008 Masquerade FAQ and rules 
on the Anthrocon webpage in the Events>Masquerade [FAQ]>Masquerade Rules 
section.
3. Contact me at masquerade-2008 at anthrocon.org to confirm your participation.

If you have any questions about the Anthrocon 2008 Masquerade, you can also 
send them to masquerade-2008 at anthrocon.org for a prompt reply.

Hope to hear from you!


From fuzzyroo at gmail.com  Fri May  2 02:42:18 2008
From: fuzzyroo at gmail.com (Lucus Rocket)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 01:42:18 -0500
Subject: FL: Anthrocon 2008 Masquerade Information (5/08)
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20080501200238.041479d8@incoming.verizon.net>
References: <5.1.1.6.2.20080501200238.041479d8@incoming.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <186b03790805012342i66abc811rfe0b9d8b5a477e27@mail.gmail.com>

what do we do if we might just want to assist with ppls things...like
if they need random bodies to just fill spots? or what ever?

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Brian Harris <rigeldc at verizon.net> wrote:
> Anthrocon 2008 is coming, June 26-29! If you are a costumer or visual artist
> and would like to participate in the Masquerade, here is what you should do:
>
>  1. Visit Anthrocon 2008's homepage for convention details
> (http://www.anthrocon.org).
>  2. Review the latest draft of the Anthrocon 2008 Masquerade FAQ and rules
> on the Anthrocon webpage in the Events>Masquerade [FAQ]>Masquerade Rules
> section.
>  3. Contact me at masquerade-2008 at anthrocon.org to confirm your
> participation.
>
>  If you have any questions about the Anthrocon 2008 Masquerade, you can also
> send them to masquerade-2008 at anthrocon.org for a prompt reply.
>
>  Hope to hear from you!
>
>  _______________________________________________
>  _______________________________________________
>  Fursuit Mail list.
>  To edit your subscription, visit:
> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
>

From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Fri May  2 04:59:01 2008
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (~7~CyanFOX~7~)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 04:59:01 -0400
Subject: FL: Anthrocon 2008 Masquerade Information (5/08)
In-Reply-To: <186b03790805012342i66abc811rfe0b9d8b5a477e27@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5.1.1.6.2.20080501200238.041479d8@incoming.verizon.net>
	<186b03790805012342i66abc811rfe0b9d8b5a477e27@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b1c118750805020159i3626f104q72f402c7b05e3473@mail.gmail.com>

o.o i'm sure you just register as a volunteer then o.o!!!

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Lucus Rocket <fuzzyroo at gmail.com> wrote:

> what do we do if we might just want to assist with ppls things...like
> if they need random bodies to just fill spots? or what ever?
>
> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Brian Harris <rigeldc at verizon.net> wrote:
> > Anthrocon 2008 is coming, June 26-29! If you are a costumer or visual
> artist
> > and would like to participate in the Masquerade, here is what you should
> do:
> >
> >  1. Visit Anthrocon 2008's homepage for convention details
> > (http://www.anthrocon.org).
> >  2. Review the latest draft of the Anthrocon 2008 Masquerade FAQ and
> rules
> > on the Anthrocon webpage in the Events>Masquerade [FAQ]>Masquerade Rules
> > section.
> >  3. Contact me at masquerade-2008 at anthrocon.org to confirm your
> > participation.
> >
> >  If you have any questions about the Anthrocon 2008 Masquerade, you can
> also
> > send them to masquerade-2008 at anthrocon.org for a prompt reply.
> >
> >  Hope to hear from you!
> >
> >  _______________________________________________
> >  _______________________________________________
> >  Fursuit Mail list.
> >  To edit your subscription, visit:
> > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
> >
> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
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> To edit your subscription, visit:
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From bob at ginkosoft.com  Wed Apr 30 12:49:11 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:49:11 -0700
Subject: FL: GTA IV RELEASED!! (GamerTag Exchange)
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0804291951wf53fd20mb5fa5eae38fbfd15@mail.gmail.com>
References: <beded4ed0804291217j40a8f50dq82352fc0c867535f@mail.gmail.com>
	<d23d76ca0804291951wf53fd20mb5fa5eae38fbfd15@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1209574152.2E90DBC5@dg12.dngr.org>

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:51, Donkey wrote:
> And this has to do with fursuiting how?

You never know... There might be an unlockable where you can go around 
as a squirrel on a rampage.

Well, it could happen!

--BobCoon

From donkeyears at gmail.com  Fri May  2 14:40:33 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 11:40:33 -0700
Subject: FL: GTA IV RELEASED!! (GamerTag Exchange)
In-Reply-To: <1209574152.2E90DBC5@dg12.dngr.org>
References: <beded4ed0804291217j40a8f50dq82352fc0c867535f@mail.gmail.com>
	<d23d76ca0804291951wf53fd20mb5fa5eae38fbfd15@mail.gmail.com>
	<1209574152.2E90DBC5@dg12.dngr.org>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0805021140o51637615x705ff9d94e9d1b07@mail.gmail.com>

Who would want to be a squirrel?

Now if it was an ass that would be a totally different story.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Bob Bauhaus <bob at ginkosoft.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:51, Donkey wrote:
>
> > And this has to do with fursuiting how?
> >
>
> You never know... There might be an unlockable where you can go around as
> a squirrel on a rampage.
>
> Well, it could happen!
>
> --BobCoon
>
> _______________________________________________
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From rigeldc at verizon.net  Fri May  2 18:09:23 2008
From: rigeldc at verizon.net (Brian Harris)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 18:09:23 -0400
Subject: FL: Anthrocon 2008 Masquerade Information (5/08)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1209744002.13394.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20080502180639.046194b8@incoming.verizon.net>

There is no system for volunteers to be assigned as extras because the call 
for them tends to be rare. If someone's skit needs extras, they are 
encouraged to advertise for them in appropriate forums.

- Rigel

At 12:00 PM 5/2/2008 -0400, Lucus Rocket wrote:
>what do we do if we might just want to assist with ppls things...like
>if they need random bodies to just fill spots? or what ever?
>
>On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Brian Harris <rigeldc at verizon.net> wrote:
> > Anthrocon 2008 is coming, June 26-29! If you are a costumer or visual 
> artist
> > and would like to participate in the Masquerade, here is what you 
> should do:
> >
> >  1. Visit Anthrocon 2008's homepage for convention details
> > (http://www.anthrocon.org).
> >  2. Review the latest draft of the Anthrocon 2008 Masquerade FAQ and rules
> > on the Anthrocon webpage in the Events>Masquerade [FAQ]>Masquerade Rules
> > section.
> >  3. Contact me at masquerade-2008 at anthrocon.org to confirm your
> > participation.
> >
> >  If you have any questions about the Anthrocon 2008 Masquerade, you can 
> also
> > send them to masquerade-2008 at anthrocon.org for a prompt reply.
> >
> >  Hope to hear from you!


From fuzzyroo at gmail.com  Fri May  2 20:50:32 2008
From: fuzzyroo at gmail.com (Lucus Rocket)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 19:50:32 -0500
Subject: FL: Anthrocon 2008 Masquerade Information (5/08)
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20080502180639.046194b8@incoming.verizon.net>
References: <mailman.1.1209744002.13394.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<5.1.1.6.2.20080502180639.046194b8@incoming.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <186b03790805021750m7e7de7a5rde6613d3a9f7477c@mail.gmail.com>

oh yeah? what forums are they?

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Brian Harris <rigeldc at verizon.net> wrote:
> There is no system for volunteers to be assigned as extras because the call
> for them tends to be rare. If someone's skit needs extras, they are
> encouraged to advertise for them in appropriate forums.
>
>  - Rigel
>
>
>
>  At 12:00 PM 5/2/2008 -0400, Lucus Rocket wrote:
>
> > what do we do if we might just want to assist with ppls things...like
> > if they need random bodies to just fill spots? or what ever?
> >
> > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Brian Harris <rigeldc at verizon.net> wrote:
> > > Anthrocon 2008 is coming, June 26-29! If you are a costumer or visual
> artist
> > > and would like to participate in the Masquerade, here is what you should
> do:
> > >
> > >  1. Visit Anthrocon 2008's homepage for convention details
> > > (http://www.anthrocon.org).
> > >  2. Review the latest draft of the Anthrocon 2008 Masquerade FAQ and
> rules
> > > on the Anthrocon webpage in the Events>Masquerade [FAQ]>Masquerade Rules
> > > section.
> > >  3. Contact me at masquerade-2008 at anthrocon.org to confirm your
> > > participation.
> > >
> > >  If you have any questions about the Anthrocon 2008 Masquerade, you can
> also
> > > send them to masquerade-2008 at anthrocon.org for a prompt reply.
> > >
> > >  Hope to hear from you!
> >
>
>  _______________________________________________
>  _______________________________________________
>  Fursuit Mail list.
>  To edit your subscription, visit:
> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
>

From bob at ginkosoft.com  Sat May  3 04:17:02 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 01:17:02 -0700
Subject: FL: GTA IV RELEASED!! (GamerTag Exchange)
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0805021140o51637615x705ff9d94e9d1b07@mail.gmail.com>
References: <beded4ed0804291217j40a8f50dq82352fc0c867535f@mail.gmail.com>
	<d23d76ca0805021140o51637615x705ff9d94e9d1b07@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1209802624.350DED79@bi12.dngr.org>

>> You never know... There might be an unlockable where you can go around 
>> as a squirrel on a rampage.

> Who would want to be a squirrel?

Not many. Thus, the sales results of Conker's Bad Fur Day.

> Now if it was an ass that would be a totally different story.

Are we talking a video game remake of HeeHaw?


Okay, to keep the post even slightly on-topic, here's something from the 
"Things that make you go hmmm" department.

Ages ago (May 98, oddly enough), I was reading one of the more sarcastic 
computer magazines I subscribed to, and did a double-take at the table 
of contents:

MAC TO BASICS Jeff Hemmel's beginner's column looks at "Five things you 
probably haven't done yet." Jeff originally listed six things, but he 
was afraid that many of our readers wouldn't have a giant chipmunk suit 
in their garage. He obviously doesn't know his audience.

I've been searching for ages, and finally found it again. I didn't 
hallucinate it! 
http://web.archive.org/web/20010226185204/www.mactoday.com/cont_may_june.shtml

Sadly, the advice is now mostly obsolete (save for backing up data) and 
no chipmunk-related information was given.

--BobCoon

From superjay at unitz.ca  Sat May  3 15:11:42 2008
From: superjay at unitz.ca (Jason Harrison)
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 14:11:42 -0500
Subject: FL: Calling "KoiFox"
In-Reply-To: <186b03790805021750m7e7de7a5rde6613d3a9f7477c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1.1209744002.13394.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>	<5.1.1.6.2.20080502180639.046194b8@incoming.verizon.net>
	<186b03790805021750m7e7de7a5rde6613d3a9f7477c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <481CB8EE.1000705@unitz.ca>

If anyone knows a "Koi Fox" aka Lynne Hassell, or if KoiFox is here in 
this community....

Please tell her that they have a customer who commissioned them for a 
wolf suit where they paid a 1200-1300$ deposit back before January who 
is looking for them.

The mother of the guy who commissioned KoiFox called me this morning 
thinking I'd know this person and is desperately trying to find KoiFox 
to demand refund or to get the suit finished or something.  She said she 
found my number on a business card her son picked up at AnthroCon last 
year which is where he commissioned KoiFox.

I don't really appreciate getting calls from other fursuiters' customers 
who are desperately trying to find contact information like a phone 
number or mailing address...  I'm tired of cleaning up other people's 
messes.

-Jason

From noble_a_wolf at hotmail.com  Sat May  3 14:43:40 2008
From: noble_a_wolf at hotmail.com (noble wolf)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 14:43:40 -0400
Subject: FL: Calling "KoiFox"
In-Reply-To: <481CB8EE.1000705@unitz.ca>
References: <mailman.1.1209744002.13394.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<5.1.1.6.2.20080502180639.046194b8@incoming.verizon.net>
	<186b03790805021750m7e7de7a5rde6613d3a9f7477c@mail.gmail.com> 
	<481CB8EE.1000705@unitz.ca>
Message-ID: <BAY113-W46ADFEF0F03AC4BD4D2A0AD6D50@phx.gbl>


O.o never heard of that fursuit maker> Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 14:11:42 -0500> From: superjay at unitz.ca> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> Subject: FL: Calling "KoiFox"> > If anyone knows a "Koi Fox" aka Lynne Hassell, or if KoiFox is here in > this community....> > Please tell her that they have a customer who commissioned them for a > wolf suit where they paid a 1200-1300$ deposit back before January who > is looking for them.> > The mother of the guy who commissioned KoiFox called me this morning > thinking I'd know this person and is desperately trying to find KoiFox > to demand refund or to get the suit finished or something. She said she > found my number on a business card her son picked up at AnthroCon last > year which is where he commissioned KoiFox.> > I don't really appreciate getting calls from other fursuiters' customers > who are desperately trying to find contact information like a phone > number or mailing address... I'm tired of cleaning up other people's > messes.> > -Jason> _______________________________________________> _______________________________________________> Fursuit Mail list.> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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From tim1 at timduru.org  Sat May  3 14:49:01 2008
From: tim1 at timduru.org (tim1 at timduru.org)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 18:49:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: FL: Calling "KoiFox"
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-W46ADFEF0F03AC4BD4D2A0AD6D50@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.1.1209744002.13394.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<5.1.1.6.2.20080502180639.046194b8@incoming.verizon.net>
	<186b03790805021750m7e7de7a5rde6613d3a9f7477c@mail.gmail.com>
	<481CB8EE.1000705@unitz.ca>
	<BAY113-W46ADFEF0F03AC4BD4D2A0AD6D50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.1.00.0805031848110.50624@j3.timduru.org>

well,
5 seconds google search gives you this :)
http://www.lynnehassell.com/main.php



From superjay at unitz.ca  Sat May  3 16:04:20 2008
From: superjay at unitz.ca (Jason Harrison)
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 15:04:20 -0500
Subject: FL: Calling "KoiFox"
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.1.00.0805031848110.50624@j3.timduru.org>
References: <mailman.1.1209744002.13394.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>	<5.1.1.6.2.20080502180639.046194b8@incoming.verizon.net>	<186b03790805021750m7e7de7a5rde6613d3a9f7477c@mail.gmail.com>	<481CB8EE.1000705@unitz.ca>	<BAY113-W46ADFEF0F03AC4BD4D2A0AD6D50@phx.gbl>
	<alpine.BSF.1.00.0805031848110.50624@j3.timduru.org>
Message-ID: <481CC544.9060102@unitz.ca>

That's good... she has a site

Too bad there is no phone number or mailing address on that site to give 
to the mother who called me.

-Jason

> well,
> 5 seconds google search gives you this :)
> http://www.lynnehassell.com/main.php
>

From tim1 at timduru.org  Sat May  3 15:13:51 2008
From: tim1 at timduru.org (tim1 at timduru.org)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 19:13:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: FL: Calling "KoiFox"
In-Reply-To: <481CC544.9060102@unitz.ca>
References: <mailman.1.1209744002.13394.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<5.1.1.6.2.20080502180639.046194b8@incoming.verizon.net>
	<186b03790805021750m7e7de7a5rde6613d3a9f7477c@mail.gmail.com>
	<481CB8EE.1000705@unitz.ca>
	<BAY113-W46ADFEF0F03AC4BD4D2A0AD6D50@phx.gbl>
	<alpine.BSF.1.00.0805031848110.50624@j3.timduru.org>
	<481CC544.9060102@unitz.ca>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.1.00.0805031911430.50624@j3.timduru.org>


there's an email address on there.
The mother can try that maybe ?
Maybe also write a message in the guest book ?


> That's good... she has a site
>
> Too bad there is no phone number or mailing address on that site to give to 
> the mother who called me.
>
> -Jason
>
>> well,
>> 5 seconds google search gives you this :)
>> http://www.lynnehassell.com/main.php
>> 
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From xianfox at xianfox.com  Sat May  3 15:16:57 2008
From: xianfox at xianfox.com (Brian Witt)
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 14:16:57 -0500
Subject: FL: Calling "KoiFox"
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.1.00.0805031911430.50624@j3.timduru.org>
References: <mailman.1.1209744002.13394.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>	<5.1.1.6.2.20080502180639.046194b8@incoming.verizon.net>	<186b03790805021750m7e7de7a5rde6613d3a9f7477c@mail.gmail.com>	<481CB8EE.1000705@unitz.ca>	<BAY113-W46ADFEF0F03AC4BD4D2A0AD6D50@phx.gbl>	<alpine.BSF.1.00.0805031848110.50624@j3.timduru.org>	<481CC544.9060102@unitz.ca>
	<alpine.BSF.1.00.0805031911430.50624@j3.timduru.org>
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A whois on koifox.com (a redirect to lynnehassell.com) yeilds:

registrant-firstname:            Lynne
registrant-lastname:             Hassell
registrant-organization:         Cusom Mascots LLC.
registrant-street1:              3108 Blithewood DR
registrant-pcode:                23225
registrant-state:                VA
registrant-city:                 Richmond
registrant-ccode:                US
registrant-phone:                +1.8043531909
registrant-email:                hassellartist at yahoo.com


tim1 at timduru.org wrote:
> 
> there's an email address on there.
> The mother can try that maybe ?
> Maybe also write a message in the guest book ?
> 
> 
>> That's good... she has a site
>>
>> Too bad there is no phone number or mailing address on that site to 
>> give to the mother who called me.
>>
>> -Jason
>>
>>> well,
>>> 5 seconds google search gives you this :)
>>> http://www.lynnehassell.com/main.php
>>>
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From superjay at unitz.ca  Sat May  3 16:26:54 2008
From: superjay at unitz.ca (Jason Harrison)
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 15:26:54 -0500
Subject: FL: Calling "KoiFox"
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.1.00.0805031911430.50624@j3.timduru.org>
References: <mailman.1.1209744002.13394.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>	<5.1.1.6.2.20080502180639.046194b8@incoming.verizon.net>	<186b03790805021750m7e7de7a5rde6613d3a9f7477c@mail.gmail.com>	<481CB8EE.1000705@unitz.ca>	<BAY113-W46ADFEF0F03AC4BD4D2A0AD6D50@phx.gbl>	<alpine.BSF.1.00.0805031848110.50624@j3.timduru.org>	<481CC544.9060102@unitz.ca>
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Message-ID: <481CCA8E.5030202@unitz.ca>

"Billy" in the guestbook is the name of the guy who was commissioning 
her.  He posted that 10 days ago and hasn't gotten a response, I imagine 
they also emailed her.  The mother and the guy aren't getting responses 
on their own which is why they called me..
She said she's going to try to call "AnthroCon" hoping someone there has 
her information like a phone number since she was in the artist's 
alley(not sure?) last year.

I really don't want any part in this,  that's why I'm hoping if anyone 
here knows koifox or is a friend of hers can try to relay the message 
that they have a customer desperately trying to contact them...  and 
calling up the customer would be a good thing at this point.  I have the 
phone number of the customer on my phone.


>
> there's an email address on there.
> The mother can try that maybe ?
> Maybe also write a message in the guest book ?
>
>

From dakitty at chythar.net  Sat May  3 15:42:59 2008
From: dakitty at chythar.net (Chythar)
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 12:42:59 -0700
Subject: FL: Calling "KoiFox"
In-Reply-To: <481CCA8E.5030202@unitz.ca>
References: <mailman.1.1209744002.13394.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<5.1.1.6.2.20080502180639.046194b8@incoming.verizon.net>
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	<481CCA8E.5030202@unitz.ca>
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The whois info gave a phone number: 1-804-353-1909

Chythar

At 01:26 PM 5/3/2008, you wrote:
>"Billy" in the guestbook is the name of the guy who was commissioning 
>her.  He posted that 10 days ago and hasn't gotten a response, I imagine 
>they also emailed her.  The mother and the guy aren't getting responses on 
>their own which is why they called me..
>She said she's going to try to call "AnthroCon" hoping someone there has 
>her information like a phone number since she was in the artist's 
>alley(not sure?) last year.
>
>I really don't want any part in this,  that's why I'm hoping if anyone 
>here knows koifox or is a friend of hers can try to relay the message that 
>they have a customer desperately trying to contact them...  and calling up 
>the customer would be a good thing at this point.  I have the phone number 
>of the customer on my phone.
>
>
>>
>>there's an email address on there.
>>The mother can try that maybe ?
>>Maybe also write a message in the guest book ?
>>
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From superjay at unitz.ca  Sat May  3 17:06:48 2008
From: superjay at unitz.ca (Jason Harrison)
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 16:06:48 -0500
Subject: FL: Calling "KoiFox"
In-Reply-To: <481CBA29.2080209@xianfox.com>
References: <mailman.1.1209744002.13394.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>	<5.1.1.6.2.20080502180639.046194b8@incoming.verizon.net>	<186b03790805021750m7e7de7a5rde6613d3a9f7477c@mail.gmail.com>	<481CB8EE.1000705@unitz.ca>	<BAY113-W46ADFEF0F03AC4BD4D2A0AD6D50@phx.gbl>	<alpine.BSF.1.00.0805031848110.50624@j3.timduru.org>	<481CC544.9060102@unitz.ca>	<alpine.BSF.1.00.0805031911430.50624@j3.timduru.org>
	<481CBA29.2080209@xianfox.com>
Message-ID: <481CD3E8.4050101@unitz.ca>

Thanks for the info,  I passed along the information and all seems to be 
valid.  The mother got an answering machine when she called, but the 
names in the recording were accurate.


> A whois on koifox.com (a redirect to lynnehassell.com) yeilds:
>
> registrant-firstname:            Lynne
> registrant-lastname:             Hassell
> registrant-organization:         Cusom Mascots LLC.
> registrant-street1:              3108 Blithewood DR
> registrant-pcode:                23225
> registrant-state:                VA
> registrant-city:                 Richmond
> registrant-ccode:                US
> registrant-phone:                +1.8043531909
> registrant-email:                hassellartist at yahoo.com
>


From aidenislove at yahoo.com  Sat May  3 18:10:43 2008
From: aidenislove at yahoo.com (Aiden Raccoon)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 15:10:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Calling "KoiFox"
In-Reply-To: <481CCA8E.5030202@unitz.ca>
Message-ID: <903005.61897.qm@web33903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

If it was the mother of the boy, then your business card is her only contact.  Don't feel offended that you are involved.  Who else is she gonna call.  If she's anything like my mom, she can't use one of those new fangled internets.

Jason Harrison <superjay at unitz.ca> wrote: "Billy" in the guestbook is the name of the guy who was commissioning 
her.  He posted that 10 days ago and hasn't gotten a response, I imagine 
they also emailed her.  The mother and the guy aren't getting responses 
on their own which is why they called me..
She said she's going to try to call "AnthroCon" hoping someone there has 
her information like a phone number since she was in the artist's 
alley(not sure?) last year.

I really don't want any part in this,  that's why I'm hoping if anyone 
here knows koifox or is a friend of hers can try to relay the message 
that they have a customer desperately trying to contact them...  and 
calling up the customer would be a good thing at this point.  I have the 
phone number of the customer on my phone.


>
> there's an email address on there.
> The mother can try that maybe ?
> Maybe also write a message in the guest book ?
>
>
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sat May  3 21:41:27 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 18:41:27 -0700
Subject: FL: Calling "KoiFox"
In-Reply-To: <481CB8EE.1000705@unitz.ca>
References: <mailman.1.1209744002.13394.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<5.1.1.6.2.20080502180639.046194b8@incoming.verizon.net>
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I'm wondering how old is the guy is that he has $1300 for a fursuit. But he
has to get his mother involved in getting the fursuit or a refund. He must
be something like 18-19 and wanted a fursuit instead of a car.

Donkey

On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Jason Harrison <superjay at unitz.ca> wrote:

> If anyone knows a "Koi Fox" aka Lynne Hassell, or if KoiFox is here in
> this community....
>
> Please tell her that they have a customer who commissioned them for a wolf
> suit where they paid a 1200-1300$ deposit back before January who is looking
> for them.
>
> The mother of the guy who commissioned KoiFox called me this morning
> thinking I'd know this person and is desperately trying to find KoiFox to
> demand refund or to get the suit finished or something.  She said she found
> my number on a business card her son picked up at AnthroCon last year which
> is where he commissioned KoiFox.
>
> I don't really appreciate getting calls from other fursuiters' customers
> who are desperately trying to find contact information like a phone number
> or mailing address...  I'm tired of cleaning up other people's messes.
>
> -Jason
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From jillybeansalad at verizon.net  Sat May  3 23:38:48 2008
From: jillybeansalad at verizon.net (Jillian Voyles)
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 20:38:48 -0700
Subject: FL: Calling "KoiFox"
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0805031841j1730dcefuf344d181854fbed1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0K0B00540R6YX2D2@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net>

No, it was an inheritance.  :/

 

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From petercat at furry.fan.org  Sat May  3 22:30:41 2008
From: petercat at furry.fan.org (PeterCat)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 22:30:41 -0400
Subject: FL: Calling "KoiFox"
In-Reply-To: <481CB8EE.1000705@unitz.ca>
References: <mailman.1.1209744002.13394.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<5.1.1.6.2.20080502180639.046194b8@incoming.verizon.net>
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On 5/3/08, Jason Harrison wrote:
>Please tell her that they have a customer who commissioned them for 
>a wolf suit where they paid a 1200-1300$ deposit back before January 
>who is looking for them.

Good lord, they paid someone over a thousand dollars without getting 
a real name, phone number and mailing address? You wouldn't buy a 
used car that way, would you? I'm tempted to say they deserve getting 
ripped off, but a sucker is born every minute. Where do they live, 
I've got some leftover tar from a paving job and I can do their 
driveway reeeeal cheap...

-- 
The Furry InfoPage! http://www.tigerden.com/infopage/furry/
petercat at Furry.fan.org (PeterCat)

From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sat May  3 23:56:11 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 20:56:11 -0700
Subject: FL: Calling "KoiFox"
In-Reply-To: <a06240822c442cf59e90d@192.168.0.10>
References: <mailman.1.1209744002.13394.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
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You do not have to get insulting and rude! Kids get over existed over
getting things that they want and don't think of such things.

Donkey

On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 7:30 PM, PeterCat <petercat at furry.fan.org> wrote:

> On 5/3/08, Jason Harrison wrote:
>
> > Please tell her that they have a customer who commissioned them for a
> > wolf suit where they paid a 1200-1300$ deposit back before January who is
> > looking for them.
> >
>
> Good lord, they paid someone over a thousand dollars without getting a
> real name, phone number and mailing address? You wouldn't buy a used car
> that way, would you? I'm tempted to say they deserve getting ripped off, but
> a sucker is born every minute. Where do they live, I've got some leftover
> tar from a paving job and I can do their driveway reeeeal cheap...
>
> --
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From superjay at unitz.ca  Sun May  4 01:19:44 2008
From: superjay at unitz.ca (Jason Harrison)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 00:19:44 -0500
Subject: FL: Calling "KoiFox"
In-Reply-To: <a06240822c442cf59e90d@[192.168.0.10]>
References: <mailman.1.1209744002.13394.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>	<5.1.1.6.2.20080502180639.046194b8@incoming.verizon.net>	<186b03790805021750m7e7de7a5rde6613d3a9f7477c@mail.gmail.com>	<481CB8EE.1000705@unitz.ca>
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Well,  if this KoiFox kept her site up to date and actually provided a 
mailing address and a phone number on the site,  then the kid and his 
mother wouldn't be in such a predicament.
It can happen, to lose track of contact information, or to accidentally 
throw it out...  to not make more readily available on her site is bad form.

The guy has tried e-mailing Koifox and has left messages on her guest 
book with no response from her... what more can be done?

There really isn't any need to be so condescending.
Yeah he shouldn't have let this drag on,  after speaking to him on the 
phone, he has a shy and kind of meek personality,  the type where he'll 
let people walk all over him, not necessarily a sucker.
He commissioned her after AnthroCon last year, 1300$, and in January she 
demanded more money when it was completed beyond their agreement.  
Apparently she's done this to other customers,  it's all here:  
http://community.livejournal.com/fursuit/2355723.html

The matter should be closed and dropped now though since we've tracked 
down a phone number, mailing address and even found that she owes the 
state of VA money for her business registration from 2007 and all this 
has been relayed to the kid and his mom.

-Jason


>
> Good lord, they paid someone over a thousand dollars without getting a 
> real name, phone number and mailing address? You wouldn't buy a used 
> car that way, would you? I'm tempted to say they deserve getting 
> ripped off, but a sucker is born every minute. Where do they live, 
> I've got some leftover tar from a paving job and I can do their 
> driveway reeeeal cheap...
>


From rigeldc at verizon.net  Sun May  4 11:03:44 2008
From: rigeldc at verizon.net (Brian Harris)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 11:03:44 -0400
Subject: FL: Anthrocon 2008 Masquerade Information (5/08)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1209841389.1522.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20080504110020.03f817a8@incoming.verizon.net>

Appropriate forums could include here, the Anthrocon webpage's Fursuit 
forum, the Anthrocon Livejournal, or other relevant locations where the 
interested party feels they can garner attention from prospective costumers.

- Rigel

At 03:03 PM 5/3/2008 -0400, Lucus Rocket wrote:
>oh yeah? what forums are they?
>
>On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Brian Harris <rigeldc at verizon.net> wrote:
> > There is no system for volunteers to be assigned as extras because the call
> > for them tends to be rare. If someone's skit needs extras, they are
> > encouraged to advertise for them in appropriate forums.


From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sun May  4 14:18:47 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 11:18:47 -0700
Subject: FL: GTA IV RELEASED!! (GamerTag Exchange)
In-Reply-To: <8CA7C1BE2D85419-A74-4E62@FWM-M02.sysops.aol.com>
References: <beded4ed0804291217j40a8f50dq82352fc0c867535f@mail.gmail.com>
	<d23d76ca0805021140o51637615x705ff9d94e9d1b07@mail.gmail.com>
	<1209802624.350DED79@bi12.dngr.org>
	<8CA7C1BE2D85419-A74-4E62@FWM-M02.sysops.aol.com>
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On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 9:34 AM, <treacle1690 at aol.co.uk> wrote:

>
> True, but you are all WANKERS NOW STOP FUCKING E-MAILING ME
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Bauhaus <bob at ginkosoft.com>
> To: Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com>; fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Sent: Sat, 3 May 2008 9:17
> Subject: Re: FL: GTA IV RELEASED!! (GamerTag Exchange)
>
> >> You never know... There might be an unlockable where you can go around
> >> as a squirrel on a rampage.
>
> > Who would want to be a squirrel?
>
> Not many. Thus, the sales results of Conker's Bad Fur Day.
>
> > Now if it was an ass that would be a totally different story.
>
> Are we talking a video game remake of HeeHaw?
>
> Okay, to keep the post even slightly on-topic, here's something from the
> "Things that make you go hmmm" department.
>
> Ages ago (May 98, oddly enough), I was reading one of the more sarcastic
> computer magazines I subscribed to, and did a double-take at the table of
> contents:
>
> MAC TO BASICS Jeff Hemmel's beginner's column looks at "Five things you
> probably haven't done yet." Jeff originally listed six things, but he was
> afraid that many of our readers wouldn't have a giant chipmunk suit in their
> garage. He obviously doesn't know his audience.
>
> I've been searching for ages, and finally found it again. I didn't
> hallucinate it!
> http://web.archive.org/web/20010226185204/www.mactoday.com/cont_may_june.shtml
>
>
> Sadly, the advice is now mostly obsolete (save for backing up data) and no
> chipmunk-related information was given.
>
> --BobCoon
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sun May  4 14:19:37 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 11:19:37 -0700
Subject: FL: GTA IV RELEASED!! (GamerTag Exchange)
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0805041118w29f0c591q158601c0d25339ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <beded4ed0804291217j40a8f50dq82352fc0c867535f@mail.gmail.com>
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	<8CA7C1BE2D85419-A74-4E62@FWM-M02.sysops.aol.com>
	<d23d76ca0805041118w29f0c591q158601c0d25339ab@mail.gmail.com>
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Did you not realize yet that this tread is here for the sole reason to
specifically annoy you? See everyone here on fursuit dot org all got
together in a secret meeting. We decided that your life is not annoying
enough. So we went and started this tread just to make your life that much
more annoying.

I just hope that the hundreds of millions of pounds that we spent just to
annoy you was successful in its goal.

If we where not. We will have to all get togerter again. With out you
knowing where we are meeting. So we can come up with a new plan to just
specifically annoy you.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey



> On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 9:34 AM, <treacle1690 at aol.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> > True, but you are all WANKERS NOW STOP FUCKING E-MAILING ME
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bob Bauhaus <bob at ginkosoft.com>
> > To: Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com>; fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> > Sent: Sat, 3 May 2008 9:17
> > Subject: Re: FL: GTA IV RELEASED!! (GamerTag Exchange)
> >
> > >> You never know... There might be an unlockable where you can go
> > around >> as a squirrel on a rampage.
> >
> > > Who would want to be a squirrel?
> >
> > Not many. Thus, the sales results of Conker's Bad Fur Day.
> >
> > > Now if it was an ass that would be a totally different story.
> >
> > Are we talking a video game remake of HeeHaw?
> >
> > Okay, to keep the post even slightly on-topic, here's something from the
> > "Things that make you go hmmm" department.
> >
> > Ages ago (May 98, oddly enough), I was reading one of the more sarcastic
> > computer magazines I subscribed to, and did a double-take at the table of
> > contents:
> >
> > MAC TO BASICS Jeff Hemmel's beginner's column looks at "Five things you
> > probably haven't done yet." Jeff originally listed six things, but he was
> > afraid that many of our readers wouldn't have a giant chipmunk suit in their
> > garage. He obviously doesn't know his audience.
> >
> > I've been searching for ages, and finally found it again. I didn't
> > hallucinate it!
> > http://web.archive.org/web/20010226185204/www.mactoday.com/cont_may_june.shtml
> >
> >
> > Sadly, the advice is now mostly obsolete (save for backing up data) and
> > no chipmunk-related information was given.
> >
> > --BobCoon
> >
>
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sun May  4 14:20:59 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 11:20:59 -0700
Subject: FL: GTA IV RELEASED!! (GamerTag Exchange)
In-Reply-To: <beded4ed0804291217j40a8f50dq82352fc0c867535f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <beded4ed0804291217j40a8f50dq82352fc0c867535f@mail.gmail.com>
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I hate it when I send out a message and it gets all messed up!!!!

Donkey
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From foxglovefennec at gmail.com  Sun May  4 14:22:32 2008
From: foxglovefennec at gmail.com (Foxglove Fur)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 14:22:32 -0400
Subject: FL: GTA IV RELEASED!! (GamerTag Exchange)
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0805041120tccba009qc0c736726cfd708@mail.gmail.com>
References: <beded4ed0804291217j40a8f50dq82352fc0c867535f@mail.gmail.com>
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FGFennec is me! ive got the game too!

Foxglove

On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:

> I hate it when I send out a message and it gets all messed up!!!!
>
> Donkey
>
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From fuzzyroo at gmail.com  Sun May  4 16:02:11 2008
From: fuzzyroo at gmail.com (Lucus Rocket)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 15:02:11 -0500
Subject: FL: GTA IV RELEASED!! (GamerTag Exchange)
In-Reply-To: <3bcb12380805041122t3e810e14o650c081e7c9c4560@mail.gmail.com>
References: <beded4ed0804291217j40a8f50dq82352fc0c867535f@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <186b03790805041302r6afe7141ud171ca3f723ab205@mail.gmail.com>

Lucus V Rocket is meh gamer tag, that game is so fun :)

i'm thinking of just changing my gamertag name to fuzzyroo but have
not decided yet

On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Foxglove Fur <foxglovefennec at gmail.com> wrote:
> FGFennec is me! ive got the game too!
>
> Foxglove
>
>
> On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I hate it when I send out a message and it gets all messed up!!!!
> >
> > Donkey
> >
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From antimon at earthlink.net  Sun May  4 18:17:40 2008
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 18:17:40 -0400
Subject: FL: Calling "KoiFox"
In-Reply-To: <481CD3E8.4050101@unitz.ca>
References: <mailman.1.1209744002.13394.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>	<5.1.1.6.2.20080502180639.046194b8@incoming.verizon.net>	<186b03790805021750m7e7de7a5rde6613d3a9f7477c@mail.gmail.com>	<481CB8EE.1000705@unitz.ca>	<BAY113-W46ADFEF0F03AC4BD4D2A0AD6D50@phx.gbl>	<alpine.BSF.1.00.0805031848110.50624@j3.timduru.org>	<481CC544.9060102@unitz.ca>	<alpine.BSF.1.00.0805031911430.50624@j3.timduru.org><481CBA29.2080209@xianfox.com>
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Let thsi be a lesson, just cus somone can make a furusit and si good with a 
sewing machine doesn;t mean you should give them money or take take 
commisions.

There are very few makers out there I trust with my business despite their 
possibly "too good to be true" prices and quality of their work.


To many peopel dont realsie takign commisons si a responsability and runnign 
a design shop has to be treated liek a real job, these are peopel slives, 
soo many out there will take your money and screw you withotu thinkign twice 
about ti, oh i'm sorry I got busy, i dotn have time to do yoru suit, but I 
already spent your money.

Sorry, No, I  do not play that game, there is a reason I stoped using some 
makers and continue to use others. 


From bob at ginkosoft.com  Mon May  5 00:56:23 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 21:56:23 -0700
Subject: FL: Calling "KoiFox"
In-Reply-To: <481D4770.9040602@unitz.ca>
References: <mailman.1.1209744002.13394.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<5.1.1.6.2.20080502180639.046194b8@incoming.verizon.net>
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I hate to say it, but I haven't been on the list all that long, and I 
remember something similar earlier this year. Different circumstances, 
sure, but still a case of non-minor sums of money changing hands and 
someone nigh dissappearing or otherwise uncontactable.

And I've got a feeling that we'll see this happen again several times 
before the year closes. This one seems to have some particularly foolish 
elements, but... Does there need to be public service announcements 
regarding this?

Good idea: Commissioning a studio that uses a cheshire cat logo
Bad idea: Commissioning a studio that can actually vanish like a 
cheshire cat.

Good idea: Exchanging contact information
Bad idea: Contact information only contains a name like "shadowclaw"

Good idea: Agreeing on terms, costs, materials, and schedules 
beforehand
Bad idea: "Make it look really really cool!"

Good idea: Shop around, make sure the studio is reliable, to your taste, 
and has a good reputation.
Bad idea: OMG, you have a sewing machine? Can I commission you?

What else am I missing?

I'd suggest possibly escrow, but given some drama explosions I've heard 
of, no escrow company deserves to be in the crossfire.

--BobCoon

From donkeyears at gmail.com  Mon May  5 05:19:30 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 02:19:30 -0700
Subject: FL: Calling "KoiFox"
In-Reply-To: <1209963386.35E6F94C@fb15.dngr.org>
References: <mailman.1.1209744002.13394.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
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That has came up before. But no one will use it and no one wants th get in
the middle of such a dealing.

Donkey

On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Bob Bauhaus <bob at ginkosoft.com> wrote:

>
>
> I'd suggest possibly escrow, but given some drama explosions I've heard
> of, no escrow company deserves to be in the crossfire.
>
> --BobCoon
>
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From petercat at furry.fan.org  Mon May  5 10:29:47 2008
From: petercat at furry.fan.org (PeterCat)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 10:29:47 -0400
Subject: FL: Calling "KoiFox"
In-Reply-To: <1209963386.35E6F94C@fb15.dngr.org>
References: <mailman.1.1209744002.13394.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
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Message-ID: <a06240827c444c7d125b9@[192.168.0.10]>

On 5/4/08, Bob Bauhaus wrote:
>I've got a feeling that we'll see this happen again several times 
>before the year closes. This one seems to have some particularly 
>foolish elements, but... Does there need to be public service 
>announcements regarding this?

I'd say so. Your tips are a good start; I'd suggest the fursuit 
community come up with a "Fursuit Commissioning Worksheet" form that 
potential buyers can use to keep track of all the details on what 
they're buying. We wouldn't want to get a reputation that anyone 
commissioning a fursuit has a 50% chance of getting ripped off, and 
because of the expense the few who do have bad experiences will make 
a lot of noise about it.

Include builder's real name, physical address, not P.O. Box 
(residence or business; call it "workshop"); mailing address if 
different; telephone numbers and e-mail address; brief overall 
description of costume; expected delivery date; intermediate dates as 
needed; payment terms and amounts, dates of progressive payments. 
What else?


>I'd suggest possibly escrow, but given some drama explosions I've 
>heard of, no escrow company deserves to be in the crossfire.

That's what they're paid for. Furry drama is nothing compared to some 
cases they deal with all the time.

But for many builders, I expect the initial partial payment is used 
to buy the materials, and the balance payment upon final delivery is 
their labor/profit.

-- 
The Furry InfoPage! http://www.tigerden.com/infopage/furry/
petercat at Furry.fan.org (PeterCat)       Anthrocon Art Show director

From bob at ginkosoft.com  Wed May  7 12:04:29 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 09:04:29 -0700
Subject: FL: Calling "KoiFox"
References: <1210029412.8A4D562@ff9.dngr.org>
Message-ID: <1210176272.2C458798@ba12.dngr.org>

(I don't think this email got through the last time, so if it suddenly 
appears double, please pardon.)

> I'd say so. Your tips are a good start; I'd suggest the fursuit 
> community come up with a "Fursuit Commissioning Worksheet" form that 
> potential buyers can use to keep track of all the details on what 
> they're buying.

It also sounds like it could possibly be generalized into commissioning 
with art as well, and made into a convention panel. Maybe a skit to go 
on youtube. At the very least, a page or two in the wiki.

> Include builder's real name, physical address, not P.O. Box (residence 
> or business; call it "workshop"); mailing address if different; 
> telephone numbers and e-mail address; brief overall description of 
> costume; expected delivery date; intermediate dates as needed; payment 
> terms and amounts, dates of progressive
>  payments. What else?

Oof. Really, a commission is a contract, and it could go on and on. But 
that's a great start.

Other things that are less general, though, would be a design. Not just 
"taken from a drawing this other guy did, but without the wings" but 
something that looks more like blueprints (Front view, back view, 
side,)

The other thing I really wish was more standardized was color. We don't 
need pantone swatches, but it wouldn't hurt, neither.

Edge cases of it not looking "just right" or the color's being off seem 
to be something that could be headed off here.

> That's what they're paid for. Furry drama is nothing compared to some 
> cases they deal with all the time.

True. Million dollar contracts going sour with lots of lawyers involved 
versus livejournal flame wars.

Actually, that sounds like it could be a hilarious episode of People's 
Court (as long as it's nobody we know.) "Your honor, he didn't make the 
paws large enough and the rainbow hair's all wrong!"

> But for many builders, I expect the initial partial payment is used to 
> buy the materials, and the balance payment upon final delivery is their 
> labor/profit.

I thought it was half up front, the other half after the mark's done and 
confirmed. Wait, wrong kind of contract. Although more than just 
material purchase would be good, for no other reason than it might 
reduce distractions of needing other income.

Perhaps 40% up front, 60% on delivery? It really depends on 
circumstances.

--BobCoon.

From donkeyears at gmail.com  Wed May  7 17:41:25 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 14:41:25 -0700
Subject: FL: Two of my favorite things put together. ^_^
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0805071441n4ed0c0e2l12711101d3ae075b@mail.gmail.com>

Warning. This is *NOT* a Politically Correct video. If your a liberal tree
hugger you will be easily offended by this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f9tavB7hWo
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From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Wed May  7 19:41:57 2008
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 17:41:57 -0600
Subject: FL: Two of my favorite things put together. ^_^
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Very very naice Takala! I'd love to see that up close and personal, and as from wolf to zebra I see friend not food!


Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 14:41:25 -0700From: donkeyears at gmail.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: FL: Two of my favorite things put together. ^_^Warning. This is NOT a Politically Correct video. If your a liberal tree hugger you will be easily offended by this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f9tavB7hWo
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From bob at ginkosoft.com  Mon May  5 19:16:48 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 16:16:48 -0700
Subject: FL: Calling "KoiFox"
In-Reply-To: <a06240827c444c7d125b9@[192.168.0.10]>
References: <mailman.1.1209744002.13394.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
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> I'd say so. Your tips are a good start; I'd suggest the fursuit 
> community come up with a "Fursuit Commissioning Worksheet" form that 
> potential buyers can use to keep track of all the details on what 
> they're buying.

It also sounds like it could possibly be generalized into commissioning 
with art as well, and made into a convention panel. Maybe a skit to go 
on youtube. At the very least, a page or two in the wiki.

> Include builder's real name, physical address, not P.O. Box (residence 
> or business; call it "workshop"); mailing address if different; 
> telephone numbers and e-mail address; brief overall description of 
> costume; expected delivery date; intermediate dates as needed; payment 
> terms and amounts, dates of progressive
>  payments. What else?

Oof. Really, a commission is a contract, and it could go on and on. But 
that's a great start.

Other things that are less general, though, would be a design. Not just 
"taken from a drawing this other guy did, but without the wings" but 
something that looks more like blueprints (Front view, back view, 
side,)

The other thing I really wish was more standardized was color. We don't 
need pantone swatches, but it wouldn't hurt, neither.

Edge cases of it not looking "just right" or the color's being off seem 
to be something that could be headed off here.

> That's what they're paid for. Furry drama is nothing compared to some 
> cases they deal with all the time.

True. Million dollar contracts going sour with lots of lawyers involved 
versus livejournal flame wars.

Actually, that sounds like it could be a hilarious episode of People's 
Court (as long as it's nobody we know.) "Your honor, he didn't make the 
paws large enough and the rainbow hair's all wrong!"

> But for many builders, I expect the initial partial payment is used to 
> buy the materials, and the balance payment upon final delivery is their 
> labor/profit.

I thought it was half up front, the other half after the mark's done and 
confirmed. Wait, wrong kind of contract. Although more than just 
material purchase would be good, for no other reason than it might 
reduce distractions of needing other income.

Perhaps 40% up front, 60% on delivery? It really depends on 
circumstances.

--BobCoon.

From donkeyears at gmail.com  Wed May  7 21:49:03 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 18:49:03 -0700
Subject: FL: Two of my favorite things put together. ^_^
In-Reply-To: <BAY101-W21322DDA96E7AF7C95A2F1A9D10@phx.gbl>
References: <d23d76ca0805071441n4ed0c0e2l12711101d3ae075b@mail.gmail.com>
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I would be willing to help you get that up close and personal feeling.

All you will have to do is is take this. *I hand the wolf a peace of
light weight cardboard that has a black picture of a wolfs upper body
on it.* Just take that out into that field. *I point out into a large
field.* and hold it up about wast high.

*I take out a fifty caliber sniper rifle out of its case and get it ready.*

OK I am ready to give you your close and personal experience.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:41 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:
>
>
> Very very naice Takala! I'd love to see that up close and personal, and as
> from wolf to zebra I see friend not food!
>
>  ________________________________
>  Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 14:41:25 -0700
> From: donkeyears at gmail.com
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: FL: Two of my favorite things put together. ^_^
>
>
> Warning. This is NOT a Politically Correct video. If your a liberal tree
> hugger you will be easily offended by this video.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f9tavB7hWo
>
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From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Wed May  7 23:47:34 2008
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 21:47:34 -0600
Subject: FL: Two of my favorite things put together. ^_^
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0805071849n71146a5eodb4cc4e7dad4abe9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d23d76ca0805071441n4ed0c0e2l12711101d3ae075b@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY101-W21322DDA96E7AF7C95A2F1A9D10@phx.gbl> 
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That's cool and all but I'd rather be behind the butt of the gun watching rather than seeing the bullet fly towards me. *shivvers and wets himself* See look at what you made me do! > Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 18:49:03 -0700> From: donkeyears at gmail.com> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> Subject: Re: FL: Two of my favorite things put together. ^_^> > I would be willing to help you get that up close and personal feeling.> > All you will have to do is is take this. *I hand the wolf a peace of> light weight cardboard that has a black picture of a wolfs upper body> on it.* Just take that out into that field. *I point out into a large> field.* and hold it up about wast high.> > *I take out a fifty caliber sniper rifle out of its case and get it ready.*> > OK I am ready to give you your close and personal experience.> > His Most Royal Highass, Donkey> > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:41 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:> >> >> > Very very naice Takala! I'd love to see that up close and personal, and as> > from wolf to zebra I see friend not food!> >> > ________________________________> > Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 14:41:25 -0700> > From: donkeyears at gmail.com> > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> > Subject: FL: Two of my favorite things put together. ^_^> >> >> > Warning. This is NOT a Politically Correct video. If your a liberal tree> > hugger you will be easily offended by this video.> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f9tavB7hWo> >> > ________________________________> > Windows Live SkyDrive lets you share files with faraway friends. Start> > sharing.> > _______________________________________________> > _______________________________________________> > Fursuit Mail list.> > To edit your subscription, visit:> > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list> >> >> _______________________________________________> _______________________________________________> Fursuit Mail list.> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list 
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From anthrobunny at gmail.com  Thu May  8 00:24:39 2008
From: anthrobunny at gmail.com (Blackberry)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 21:24:39 -0700
Subject: FL: Two of my favorite things put together. ^_^
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0805071441n4ed0c0e2l12711101d3ae075b@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
> Warning. This is NOT a Politically Correct video. If your a liberal tree
> hugger you will be easily offended by this video.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f9tavB7hWo

I'm a liberal tree-hugger, but I know enough Zonies that it's just
intriguing at this point.

-- 
"I guess I like board games more than most people. And by that I mean
I like playing board games more than most people do, and I like board
games more than I like most people." - Strong Sad, homestarrunner.com

From donkeyears at gmail.com  Thu May  8 11:11:05 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 08:11:05 -0700
Subject: FL: Two of my favorite things put together. ^_^
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I'm sorry about that. Here I will help you. *I grab a soiled diaper
off of a babyfur and hand it to Shane Ramos.*
Here put this on. It will help you with your problem of your wetting yourself.

 His Most Royally helpful Highass, Donkey

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:47 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:
> That's cool and all but I'd rather be behind the butt of the gun watching
> rather than seeing the bullet fly towards me. *shivvers and wets himself*
> See look at what you made me do!
>
>> Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 18:49:03 -0700
>> From: donkeyears at gmail.com
>> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>> Subject: Re: FL: Two of my favorite things put together. ^_^
>>
>> I would be willing to help you get that up close and personal feeling.
>>
>> All you will have to do is is take this. *I hand the wolf a peace of
>> light weight cardboard that has a black picture of a wolfs upper body
>> on it.* Just take that out into that field. *I point out into a large
>> field.* and hold it up about wast high.
>>
>> *I take out a fifty caliber sniper rifle out of its case and get it
>> ready.*
>>
>> OK I am ready to give you your close and personal experience.
>>
>> His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
>>
>> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:41 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Very very naice Takala! I'd love to see that up close and personal, and
>> > as
>> > from wolf to zebra I see friend not food!
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 14:41:25 -0700
>> > From: donkeyears at gmail.com
>> > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>> > Subject: FL: Two of my favorite things put together. ^_^
>> >
>> >
>> > Warning. This is NOT a Politically Correct video. If your a liberal tree
>> > hugger you will be easily offended by this video.
>> >
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f9tavB7hWo
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > Windows Live SkyDrive lets you share files with faraway friends. Start
>> > sharing.
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Fursuit Mail list.
>> > To edit your subscription, visit:
>> > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
>> >
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> _______________________________________________
>> Fursuit Mail list.
>> To edit your subscription, visit:
>> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
>
> ________________________________
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> sharing.
> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
> Fursuit Mail list.
> To edit your subscription, visit:
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>
>

From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Thu May  8 11:51:58 2008
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (~7~CyanFOX~7~)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 11:51:58 -0400
Subject: FL: Two of my favorite things put together. ^_^
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0805080811i456b51f8wc3502613c4361e43@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d23d76ca0805071441n4ed0c0e2l12711101d3ae075b@mail.gmail.com>
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o.o!!! scurries to get the fresh wet naps and pampers and powder x.x

On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm sorry about that. Here I will help you. *I grab a soiled diaper
> off of a babyfur and hand it to Shane Ramos.*
> Here put this on. It will help you with your problem of your wetting
> yourself.
>
>  His Most Royally helpful Highass, Donkey
>
> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:47 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:
> > That's cool and all but I'd rather be behind the butt of the gun watching
> > rather than seeing the bullet fly towards me. *shivvers and wets himself*
> > See look at what you made me do!
> >
> >> Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 18:49:03 -0700
> >> From: donkeyears at gmail.com
> >> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> >> Subject: Re: FL: Two of my favorite things put together. ^_^
> >>
> >> I would be willing to help you get that up close and personal feeling.
> >>
> >> All you will have to do is is take this. *I hand the wolf a peace of
> >> light weight cardboard that has a black picture of a wolfs upper body
> >> on it.* Just take that out into that field. *I point out into a large
> >> field.* and hold it up about wast high.
> >>
> >> *I take out a fifty caliber sniper rifle out of its case and get it
> >> ready.*
> >>
> >> OK I am ready to give you your close and personal experience.
> >>
> >> His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:41 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Very very naice Takala! I'd love to see that up close and personal,
> and
> >> > as
> >> > from wolf to zebra I see friend not food!
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 14:41:25 -0700
> >> > From: donkeyears at gmail.com
> >> > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> >> > Subject: FL: Two of my favorite things put together. ^_^
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Warning. This is NOT a Politically Correct video. If your a liberal
> tree
> >> > hugger you will be easily offended by this video.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f9tavB7hWo
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > Windows Live SkyDrive lets you share files with faraway friends. Start
> >> > sharing.
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Fursuit Mail list.
> >> > To edit your subscription, visit:
> >> > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
> >> >
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Fursuit Mail list.
> >> To edit your subscription, visit:
> >> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
> >
> > ________________________________
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> > sharing.
> > _______________________________________________
> > _______________________________________________
> > Fursuit Mail list.
> > To edit your subscription, visit:
> > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
> >
> >
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From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Fri May  9 04:36:25 2008
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 02:36:25 -0600
Subject: FL: Two of my favorite things put together. ^_^
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No thanks =3
Just the fear of being on the other end of a gun spooks me!> Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 08:11:05 -0700> From: donkeyears at gmail.com> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> Subject: Re: FL: Two of my favorite things put together. ^_^> > I'm sorry about that. Here I will help you. *I grab a soiled diaper> off of a babyfur and hand it to Shane Ramos.*> Here put this on. It will help you with your problem of your wetting yourself.> > His Most Royally helpful Highass, Donkey> > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:47 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:> > That's cool and all but I'd rather be behind the butt of the gun watching> > rather than seeing the bullet fly towards me. *shivvers and wets himself*> > See look at what you made me do!> >> >> Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 18:49:03 -0700> >> From: donkeyears at gmail.com> >> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> >> Subject: Re: FL: Two of my favorite things put together. ^_^> >>> >> I would be willing to help you get that up close and personal feeling.> >>> >> All you will have to do is is take this. *I hand the wolf a peace of> >> light weight cardboard that has a black picture of a wolfs upper body> >> on it.* Just take that out into that field. *I point out into a large> >> field.* and hold it up about wast high.> >>> >> *I take out a fifty caliber sniper rifle out of its case and get it> >> ready.*> >>> >> OK I am ready to give you your close and personal experience.> >>> >> His Most Royal Highass, Donkey> >>> >> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:41 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:> >> >> >> >> >> > Very very naice Takala! I'd love to see that up close and personal, and> >> > as> >> > from wolf to zebra I see friend not food!> >> >> >> > ________________________________> >> > Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 14:41:25 -0700> >> > From: donkeyears at gmail.com> >> > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> >> > Subject: FL: Two of my favorite things put together. ^_^> >> >> >> >> >> > Warning. This is NOT a Politically Correct video. If your a liberal tree> >> > hugger you will be easily offended by this video.> >> >> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f9tavB7hWo> >> >> >> > ________________________________> >> > Windows Live SkyDrive lets you share files with faraway friends. Start> >> > sharing.> >> > _______________________________________________> >> > _______________________________________________> >> > Fursuit Mail list.> >> > To edit your subscription, visit:> >> > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________> >> _______________________________________________> >> Fursuit Mail list.> >> To edit your subscription, visit:> >> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list> >> > ________________________________> > Windows Live SkyDrive lets you share files with faraway friends. Start> > sharing.> > _______________________________________________> > _______________________________________________> > Fursuit Mail list.> > To edit your subscription, visit:> > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list> >> >> _______________________________________________> _______________________________________________> Fursuit Mail list.> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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From ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com  Sat May 10 00:02:14 2008
From: ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com (ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 00:02:14 EDT
Subject: FL: FA:United is Looking for fursuit related Panels
Message-ID: <c71.2f431de0.35567846@aol.com>

Hello!! FA:United, the furry convention in Newark, New Jersey is looking  for 
fursuit related panels for the convention.  Interested? Please contact  
Foxwell Foxcoon or myself, Shy Matsi, for more information! 
We have a fursuit photoshoot planned this year and a huge space for a nice  
parade romp with no stairs! 
 
_foxwell at faunited.org_ (mailto:foxwell at faunited.org)    or  
_shymatsi at faunited.org_ (mailto:shymatsi at faunited.org)  
 
 
In a message dated 5/2/2008 6:04:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Shy Matsi  
Lupine writes:

FA:United! 75 days left to  Pre-Register!
90 days left until the convention!

FA: United
Aug  1-3, 2008
Marriott Newark Airport Hotel
Furry Convention in Newark,  NJ
http://www.faunited.org

In the May News Letter
Online  Registration - Ends July 15th!
Hotel Reservations - Reserve by July 15th  for only $99 a night, rates good 
7/31-8/4/2008!
Dealer Registration - Act  now!
Call for Panelists - Want to host a panel? 
Convention Charity -  New Charity for 2008! 
Website updates - Hall of Memories!
Room OM NOM!  - For you and me! 
Community - FA, Google Mailing list, LiveJournal,  Forums, MySpace, YouTube!
Volunteering - Learn how to get a backstage  pass!
Video - A blast from the past, something from our masquerade!   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbV1oeCD4VY
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------

ONLINE  REGISTRATION
Online Registration Ends July 15th! Just $30 to Pre-Register  for tickets to 
the best concert of 2008! Purchase membership levels as a  Groupie, Roadie, 
Front Row, or Number One Fan! All the prices and perks are  listed on the 
website, http://www.faunited.org Number One Fan's get an extra  special gift, but in 
order to confirm your hold on one at the convention, you  must register no 
later then July 15th!

HOTEL RESERVATIONS
Rooms are  going fast so hurry and reserve your room for just $99 a night! 
Call the  Marriott (1-800-228-9290) and tell them your reserving your room for 
the 'Fur  Affinity: United Convention' to get the special rate! No extra costs 
for  Single/Double/Triple/Quads Occupancy! You must reserve your room by 
5:00pm on  July 18th!

DEALERS
Dealers! Tables are almost sold out!! If you  still want a table, send an 
email to dealers at faunited.org or go to our website  and click through to dealer 
information!  Every Dealer level includes one  Groupie Membership (our basic 
level). 

PANELISTS
Want to host a  panel at FA:United? We want you to come be a part of the fun! 
Showcase a  talent, teach a workshop, or Socialize with an interest group! 
Send an E-mail  to panels at faunited.org or go to our website and click through to 
panels to  find out more on how you can host a panel!

CHARITY
We have a new  charity for 2008! The New Jersey Society for the Prevention of 
Cruelty to  Animals! The NJSPCA advocates for the animals of New Jersey by 
advancing their  welfare, promoting their interests, and fostering the 
human-animal bond  through programs, education, and service. The New Jersey Society for 
the  Prevention of Cruelty to Animals was created in 1868. Its agents were  
established as Law Enforcement Officers in charge of investigating and  
prosecuting all persons involved in Animal abuse and neglect. To learn more  about 
them go to our website and click through to Charity. You can find out  even more 
at www.njspca.org

WEBSITE UPDATES
Visit our website for  new updates and announcements about FA:United 2008! A 
new section on our  website is called Hall of Memories! Click on 2007 to see 
videos and pics, find  out how to submit your own to be added! 

ROOM OM NOM! 
ROOM OM  NOMNOMNOMNOM! Spending all your money on gas for traveling, our 
awesome  T-Shirt, a hotel room, and commissions in the Dealers Room? Find out you 
have  no money left for NOMs?? Come over to our consuite and get your feed! 
You may  have heard the rumors, and they are all true! Come find out why we 
believe we  have the best ConSuite on the east coast! It is open to all  attendees.

COMMUNITY
Keep in tune, join FA: United's mailing list  today! Visit our forums to keep 
in touch with Staff and other members of the  community! All on our website, 
http://www.faunited.org
We also have FA  Profile: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/faunited
A Live Journal Community:  http://community.livejournal.com/faunited
A MySpace page:  http://groups.myspace.com/faunitedfurrycon
And a YouTube Profile:  http://www.youtube.com/faunited

VOLUNTEER BACKSTAGE
Interested in  lending a hand volunteering and getting a Backstage Pass to 
everything FA:  United '08? That's the spirit! Backstage Pass members get to 
help the staff of  FA:U to ensure that our rockstar guests have everything they 
need! Find out  more on our website or sign up at the convention!

VIDEO (  http://www.youtube.com/faunited )
A blast from the Past! FAU2007! A  Masquerade skit 
Sox Pup hosts as Dex (AcesWild) makes some magic with the  help of Durango 
Dingo! Tig "Crash" Wolf, Shortwave P. Husky, and JD Puppy also  appear. 
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbV1oeCD4VY )

Shy  Matsi
FA:  United
Aug 1-3, 2008
Marriott Newark Airport Hotel
Newark,  NJ
http://www.faunited.org

NJ Furry  Con


 
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From ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com  Sat May 10 00:02:14 2008
From: ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com (ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 00:02:14 EDT
Subject: FL: FA:United is Looking for fursuit related Panels
Message-ID: <c71.2f431de0.35567846@aol.com>

Hello!! FA:United, the furry convention in Newark, New Jersey is looking  for 
fursuit related panels for the convention.  Interested? Please contact  
Foxwell Foxcoon or myself, Shy Matsi, for more information! 
We have a fursuit photoshoot planned this year and a huge space for a nice  
parade romp with no stairs! 
 
_foxwell at faunited.org_ (mailto:foxwell at faunited.org)    or  
_shymatsi at faunited.org_ (mailto:shymatsi at faunited.org)  
 
 
In a message dated 5/2/2008 6:04:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Shy Matsi  
Lupine writes:

FA:United! 75 days left to  Pre-Register!
90 days left until the convention!

FA: United
Aug  1-3, 2008
Marriott Newark Airport Hotel
Furry Convention in Newark,  NJ
http://www.faunited.org

In the May News Letter
Online  Registration - Ends July 15th!
Hotel Reservations - Reserve by July 15th  for only $99 a night, rates good 
7/31-8/4/2008!
Dealer Registration - Act  now!
Call for Panelists - Want to host a panel? 
Convention Charity -  New Charity for 2008! 
Website updates - Hall of Memories!
Room OM NOM!  - For you and me! 
Community - FA, Google Mailing list, LiveJournal,  Forums, MySpace, YouTube!
Volunteering - Learn how to get a backstage  pass!
Video - A blast from the past, something from our masquerade!   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbV1oeCD4VY
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------

ONLINE  REGISTRATION
Online Registration Ends July 15th! Just $30 to Pre-Register  for tickets to 
the best concert of 2008! Purchase membership levels as a  Groupie, Roadie, 
Front Row, or Number One Fan! All the prices and perks are  listed on the 
website, http://www.faunited.org Number One Fan's get an extra  special gift, but in 
order to confirm your hold on one at the convention, you  must register no 
later then July 15th!

HOTEL RESERVATIONS
Rooms are  going fast so hurry and reserve your room for just $99 a night! 
Call the  Marriott (1-800-228-9290) and tell them your reserving your room for 
the 'Fur  Affinity: United Convention' to get the special rate! No extra costs 
for  Single/Double/Triple/Quads Occupancy! You must reserve your room by 
5:00pm on  July 18th!

DEALERS
Dealers! Tables are almost sold out!! If you  still want a table, send an 
email to dealers at faunited.org or go to our website  and click through to dealer 
information!  Every Dealer level includes one  Groupie Membership (our basic 
level). 

PANELISTS
Want to host a  panel at FA:United? We want you to come be a part of the fun! 
Showcase a  talent, teach a workshop, or Socialize with an interest group! 
Send an E-mail  to panels at faunited.org or go to our website and click through to 
panels to  find out more on how you can host a panel!

CHARITY
We have a new  charity for 2008! The New Jersey Society for the Prevention of 
Cruelty to  Animals! The NJSPCA advocates for the animals of New Jersey by 
advancing their  welfare, promoting their interests, and fostering the 
human-animal bond  through programs, education, and service. The New Jersey Society for 
the  Prevention of Cruelty to Animals was created in 1868. Its agents were  
established as Law Enforcement Officers in charge of investigating and  
prosecuting all persons involved in Animal abuse and neglect. To learn more  about 
them go to our website and click through to Charity. You can find out  even more 
at www.njspca.org

WEBSITE UPDATES
Visit our website for  new updates and announcements about FA:United 2008! A 
new section on our  website is called Hall of Memories! Click on 2007 to see 
videos and pics, find  out how to submit your own to be added! 

ROOM OM NOM! 
ROOM OM  NOMNOMNOMNOM! Spending all your money on gas for traveling, our 
awesome  T-Shirt, a hotel room, and commissions in the Dealers Room? Find out you 
have  no money left for NOMs?? Come over to our consuite and get your feed! 
You may  have heard the rumors, and they are all true! Come find out why we 
believe we  have the best ConSuite on the east coast! It is open to all  attendees.

COMMUNITY
Keep in tune, join FA: United's mailing list  today! Visit our forums to keep 
in touch with Staff and other members of the  community! All on our website, 
http://www.faunited.org
We also have FA  Profile: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/faunited
A Live Journal Community:  http://community.livejournal.com/faunited
A MySpace page:  http://groups.myspace.com/faunitedfurrycon
And a YouTube Profile:  http://www.youtube.com/faunited

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everything FA:  United '08? That's the spirit! Backstage Pass members get to 
help the staff of  FA:U to ensure that our rockstar guests have everything they 
need! Find out  more on our website or sign up at the convention!

VIDEO (  http://www.youtube.com/faunited )
A blast from the Past! FAU2007! A  Masquerade skit 
Sox Pup hosts as Dex (AcesWild) makes some magic with the  help of Durango 
Dingo! Tig "Crash" Wolf, Shortwave P. Husky, and JD Puppy also  appear. 
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbV1oeCD4VY )

Shy  Matsi
FA:  United
Aug 1-3, 2008
Marriott Newark Airport Hotel
Newark,  NJ
http://www.faunited.org

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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sat May 10 08:13:34 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 05:13:34 -0700
Subject: FL: FA:United is Looking for fursuit related Panels
In-Reply-To: <c71.2f431de0.35567846@aol.com>
References: <c71.2f431de0.35567846@aol.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0805100513y17489337n9ab7dc2b4016becb@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, but don't expect this ass ever to show up. NYC and NJ are driving &
parking hell holes for truckers.

I hope you find some one willing to help.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 9:02 PM, <ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com> wrote:

>  Hello!! FA:United, the furry convention in Newark, New Jersey is looking
> for fursuit related panels for the convention.  Interested? Please contact
> Foxwell Foxcoon or myself, Shy Matsi, for more information!
> We have a fursuit photoshoot planned this year and a huge space for a nice
> parade romp with no stairs!
>
> foxwell at faunited.org  or  shymatsi at faunited.org
>
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From ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com  Sat May 10 08:20:01 2008
From: ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com (ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 08:20:01 EDT
Subject: FL: FA:United is Looking for fursuit related Panels
Message-ID: <c4f.2a27c2a3.3556ecf1@aol.com>

Awh , but yeah, I agree... and with the price of  diesel going up in the 
NJ/NY area, trucks are not the best option :( 

Shy  Matsi
FA:United 2008, August 1st - 3rd
NJ Furry Convention in Newark,  NJ
www.faunited.org
>>>
In a message dated 5/10/2008 8:17:19  A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
donkeyears at gmail.com writes:
Sorry, but don't  expect this ass ever to show up. NYC and NJ are driving & 
parking hell holes  for truckers. 

I hope you find some one willing to help.

His Most  Royal Highass, Donkey  




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From synthwolf at gmail.com  Sat May 10 08:23:28 2008
From: synthwolf at gmail.com (Jon Lee)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 05:23:28 -0700
Subject: FL: FA:United is Looking for fursuit related Panels
In-Reply-To: <c4f.2a27c2a3.3556ecf1@aol.com>
References: <c4f.2a27c2a3.3556ecf1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <60e717ff0805100523m1cfe3459qb50516fc22632dde@mail.gmail.com>

Heh, well diesel and otherwise is going up *everywhere*...  But I digress--
I can at least offer my attendance to said panel, if I end up going to FAU.
It's still a tenuous thing for me right now.

Peace,
--Synth

On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 5:20 AM, <ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com> wrote:

> Awh , but yeah, I agree... and with the price of  diesel going up in the
> NJ/NY area, trucks are not the best option :(
>
> Shy  Matsi
> FA:United 2008, August 1st - 3rd
> NJ Furry Convention in Newark,  NJ
> www.faunited.org
> >>>
> In a message dated 5/10/2008 8:17:19  A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> donkeyears at gmail.com writes:
> Sorry, but don't  expect this ass ever to show up. NYC and NJ are driving &
> parking hell holes  for truckers.
>
> I hope you find some one willing to help.
>
> His Most  Royal Highass, Donkey
>
>
>
>
> **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family
> favorites at AOL Food.
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From ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com  Sat May 10 08:27:25 2008
From: ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com (ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 08:27:25 EDT
Subject: FL: FA:United is Looking for fursuit related Panels
Message-ID: <c08.37a547b4.3556eead@aol.com>

Cool :) hope you can make it! So far we only have 2 fursuit related panels,  
and fursuit photoshoots/games/parade planned
but I really want to see more panels for it, they are some of my  favorite 
kinds :) 

Shy Matsi
FA:United 2008, August 1st - 3rd
NJ  Furry Convention in Newark, NJ
www.faunited.org
>>>
In a  message dated 5/10/2008 8:24:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
synthwolf at gmail.com  writes:
Heh, well diesel and otherwise is going up *everywhere*...  But  I digress-- 
I can at least offer my attendance to said panel, if I end up going  to FAU.  
It's still a tenuous thing for me right  now.

Peace,
--Synth
 



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From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Sat May 10 08:38:49 2008
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (~7~CyanFOX~7~)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 08:38:49 -0400
Subject: FL: FA:United is Looking for fursuit related Panels
In-Reply-To: <c08.37a547b4.3556eead@aol.com>
References: <c08.37a547b4.3556eead@aol.com>
Message-ID: <b1c118750805100538secdabd7gcc16e2970e8fd209@mail.gmail.com>

o.o i don't think i can attend fau this year sadly...

On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 8:27 AM, <ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com> wrote:

> Cool :) hope you can make it! So far we only have 2 fursuit related panels,
> and fursuit photoshoots/games/parade planned
> but I really want to see more panels for it, they are some of my  favorite
> kinds :)
>
> Shy Matsi
> FA:United 2008, August 1st - 3rd
> NJ  Furry Convention in Newark, NJ
> www.faunited.org
> >>>
> In a  message dated 5/10/2008 8:24:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> synthwolf at gmail.com  writes:
> Heh, well diesel and otherwise is going up *everywhere*...  But  I
> digress--
> I can at least offer my attendance to said panel, if I end up going  to
> FAU.
> It's still a tenuous thing for me right  now.
>
> Peace,
> --Synth
>
>
>
>
> **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sat May 10 09:01:32 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 06:01:32 -0700
Subject: FL: FA:United is Looking for fursuit related Panels
In-Reply-To: <c4f.2a27c2a3.3556ecf1@aol.com>
References: <c4f.2a27c2a3.3556ecf1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0805100601w54329191pc46f8448317b02e4@mail.gmail.com>

YA tell me about it! $4.60 a gallon.

Donkey the low fuel ass in NY state.

On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 5:20 AM, <ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com> wrote:

> Awh , but yeah, I agree... and with the price of  diesel going up in the
> NJ/NY area, trucks are not the best option :(
>
> Shy  Matsi
> FA:United 2008, August 1st - 3rd
> NJ Furry Convention in Newark,  NJ
> www.faunited.org
> >>>
> In a message dated 5/10/2008 8:17:19  A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> donkeyears at gmail.com writes:
> Sorry, but don't  expect this ass ever to show up. NYC and NJ are driving &
> parking hell holes  for truckers.
>
> I hope you find some one willing to help.
>
> His Most  Royal Highass, Donkey
>
>
>
>
> **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family
> favorites at AOL Food.
> (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sat May 10 22:59:04 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 19:59:04 -0700
Subject: FL: FA:United is Looking for fursuit related Panels
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0805100601w54329191pc46f8448317b02e4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c4f.2a27c2a3.3556ecf1@aol.com>
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They raised the price wail I was asleep. I paid $4.67 for 200 gallons.

On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:

> YA tell me about it! $4.60 a gallon.
>
> Donkey the low fuel ass in NY state.
>
>
> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 5:20 AM, <ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Awh , but yeah, I agree... and with the price of  diesel going up in the
>> NJ/NY area, trucks are not the best option :(
>>
>> Shy  Matsi
>> FA:United 2008, August 1st - 3rd
>> NJ Furry Convention in Newark,  NJ
>> www.faunited.org
>> >>>
>> In a message dated 5/10/2008 8:17:19  A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> donkeyears at gmail.com writes:
>> Sorry, but don't  expect this ass ever to show up. NYC and NJ are driving
>> &
>> parking hell holes  for truckers.
>>
>> I hope you find some one willing to help.
>>
>> His Most  Royal Highass, Donkey
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on
>> family
>> favorites at AOL Food.
>> (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)
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From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Sat May 10 23:16:40 2008
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (~7~CyanFOX~7~)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 23:16:40 -0400
Subject: FL: FA:United is Looking for fursuit related Panels
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0805101959y503d0acapb672c5ee510cea78@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c4f.2a27c2a3.3556ecf1@aol.com>
	<d23d76ca0805100601w54329191pc46f8448317b02e4@mail.gmail.com>
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wow that's a good deal: so you paid 0.42 cents per gallon of diesel :3

On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:

> They raised the price wail I was asleep. I paid $4.67 for 200 gallons.
>
>
> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> YA tell me about it! $4.60 a gallon.
>>
>> Donkey the low fuel ass in NY state.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 5:20 AM, <ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Awh , but yeah, I agree... and with the price of  diesel going up in the
>>> NJ/NY area, trucks are not the best option :(
>>>
>>> Shy  Matsi
>>> FA:United 2008, August 1st - 3rd
>>> NJ Furry Convention in Newark,  NJ
>>> www.faunited.org
>>> >>>
>>> In a message dated 5/10/2008 8:17:19  A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> donkeyears at gmail.com writes:
>>> Sorry, but don't  expect this ass ever to show up. NYC and NJ are driving
>>> &
>>> parking hell holes  for truckers.
>>>
>>> I hope you find some one willing to help.
>>>
>>> His Most  Royal Highass, Donkey
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on
>>> family
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>>> (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)
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>>> _______________________________________________
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sun May 11 07:52:36 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 04:52:36 -0700
Subject: FL: FA:United is Looking for fursuit related Panels
In-Reply-To: <b1c118750805102016o66ffd8e5g464ffd348a614694@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c4f.2a27c2a3.3556ecf1@aol.com>
	<d23d76ca0805100601w54329191pc46f8448317b02e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<d23d76ca0805101959y503d0acapb672c5ee510cea78@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <d23d76ca0805110452i2d6f865fj966f9bf719d1374d@mail.gmail.com>

??? Where did you learn math? You should have said $.02335 per gallon.

I bop the fox on the head with a Nerf bat. Not only for trying to be a smart
ass. But failing to do it correctly.

I am just glad that your a fox and not an ass. I would have be ashamed for
my species.

Don't worry! I know that its real hard for you to think. How can anyone
think with yiff permanently on the brain.

His Most Royal Highass and Professor of higher math, Donkey

On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 8:16 PM, ~7~CyanFOX~7~ <cyan.fox at gmail.com> wrote:

> wow that's a good deal: so you paid 0.42 cents per gallon of diesel :3
>
>
> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> They raised the price wail I was asleep. I paid $4.67 for 200 gallons.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> YA tell me about it! $4.60 a gallon.
>>>
>>> Donkey the low fuel ass in NY state.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 5:20 AM, <ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Awh , but yeah, I agree... and with the price of  diesel going up in the
>>>> NJ/NY area, trucks are not the best option :(
>>>>
>>>> Shy  Matsi
>>>> FA:United 2008, August 1st - 3rd
>>>> NJ Furry Convention in Newark,  NJ
>>>> www.faunited.org
>>>> >>>
>>>> In a message dated 5/10/2008 8:17:19  A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>> donkeyears at gmail.com writes:
>>>> Sorry, but don't  expect this ass ever to show up. NYC and NJ are
>>>> driving &
>>>> parking hell holes  for truckers.
>>>>
>>>> I hope you find some one willing to help.
>>>>
>>>> His Most  Royal Highass, Donkey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on
>>>> family
>>>> favorites at AOL Food.
>>>> (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Fursuit Mail list.
>>>> To edit your subscription, visit:
>>>> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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From cyan.fox at gmail.com  Sun May 11 07:59:13 2008
From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (~7~CyanFOX~7~)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 07:59:13 -0400
Subject: FL: FA:United is Looking for fursuit related Panels
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0805110452i2d6f865fj966f9bf719d1374d@mail.gmail.com>
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blame google for doing it wrong i used it's calculator feature o.o;;



On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:

> ??? Where did you learn math? You should have said $.02335 per gallon.
>
> I bop the fox on the head with a Nerf bat. Not only for trying to be a
> smart ass. But failing to do it correctly.
>
> I am just glad that your a fox and not an ass. I would have be ashamed for
> my species.
>
> Don't worry! I know that its real hard for you to think. How can anyone
> think with yiff permanently on the brain.
>
> His Most Royal Highass and Professor of higher math, Donkey
>
>
> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 8:16 PM, ~7~CyanFOX~7~ <cyan.fox at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > wow that's a good deal: so you paid 0.42 cents per gallon of diesel :3
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > They raised the price wail I was asleep. I paid $4.67 for 200 gallons.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > YA tell me about it! $4.60 a gallon.
> > > >
> > > > Donkey the low fuel ass in NY state.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 5:20 AM, <ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Awh , but yeah, I agree... and with the price of  diesel going up
> > > > > in the
> > > > > NJ/NY area, trucks are not the best option :(
> > > > >
> > > > > Shy  Matsi
> > > > > FA:United 2008, August 1st - 3rd
> > > > > NJ Furry Convention in Newark,  NJ
> > > > > www.faunited.org
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > In a message dated 5/10/2008 8:17:19  A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > > > donkeyears at gmail.com writes:
> > > > > Sorry, but don't  expect this ass ever to show up. NYC and NJ are
> > > > > driving &
> > > > > parking hell holes  for truckers.
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope you find some one willing to help.
> > > > >
> > > > > His Most  Royal Highass, Donkey
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists
> > > > > on family
> > > > > favorites at AOL Food.
> > > > > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sun May 11 08:15:15 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 05:15:15 -0700
Subject: FL: FA:United is Looking for fursuit related Panels
In-Reply-To: <b1c118750805110459x939b73bqa2bf1aa726154f88@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c4f.2a27c2a3.3556ecf1@aol.com>
	<d23d76ca0805100601w54329191pc46f8448317b02e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<d23d76ca0805101959y503d0acapb672c5ee510cea78@mail.gmail.com>
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Well like every other machine manure in manure out.

His Most Royally smart Highass, Donkey

On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 4:59 AM, ~7~CyanFOX~7~ <cyan.fox at gmail.com> wrote:

> blame google for doing it wrong i used it's calculator feature o.o;;
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ??? Where did you learn math? You should have said $.02335 per gallon.
>>
>> I bop the fox on the head with a Nerf bat. Not only for trying to be a
>> smart ass. But failing to do it correctly.
>>
>> I am just glad that your a fox and not an ass. I would have be ashamed for
>> my species.
>>
>> Don't worry! I know that its real hard for you to think. How can anyone
>> think with yiff permanently on the brain.
>>
>> His Most Royal Highass and Professor of higher math, Donkey
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 8:16 PM, ~7~CyanFOX~7~ <cyan.fox at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> wow that's a good deal: so you paid 0.42 cents per gallon of diesel :3
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> They raised the price wail I was asleep. I paid $4.67 for 200 gallons.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> YA tell me about it! $4.60 a gallon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Donkey the low fuel ass in NY state.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 5:20 AM, <ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Awh , but yeah, I agree... and with the price of  diesel going up in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> NJ/NY area, trucks are not the best option :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shy  Matsi
>>>>>> FA:United 2008, August 1st - 3rd
>>>>>> NJ Furry Convention in Newark,  NJ
>>>>>> www.faunited.org
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> In a message dated 5/10/2008 8:17:19  A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>>> donkeyears at gmail.com writes:
>>>>>> Sorry, but don't  expect this ass ever to show up. NYC and NJ are
>>>>>> driving &
>>>>>> parking hell holes  for truckers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope you find some one willing to help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> His Most  Royal Highass, Donkey
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on
>>>>>> family
>>>>>> favorites at AOL Food.
>>>>>> (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)
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From orwin at shaw.ca  Sun May 11 13:38:40 2008
From: orwin at shaw.ca (Orwin Raqoon)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 10:38:40 -0700
Subject: FL: FA:United is Looking for fursuit related Panels
In-Reply-To: <b1c118750805102016o66ffd8e5g464ffd348a614694@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c4f.2a27c2a3.3556ecf1@aol.com>
	<d23d76ca0805100601w54329191pc46f8448317b02e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<d23d76ca0805101959y503d0acapb672c5ee510cea78@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1c118750805102016o66ffd8e5g464ffd348a614694@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48272F20.4050301@shaw.ca>

Not to gripe at anyone here, but can we at least -try- to keep things on 
topic?...this list is really going down the tubes lately with all the 
non-related banter going on.  GTA now Fuel prices....People...this is a 
FURSUIT list...take it somewhere else., there's plenty of other places 
for general chit chat.

(and sorry to add to the spam and this is not directed at anyone in 
particular, just the subject matter...nothing personal)

Now to add something that is on topic... I still have a new black body 
suit I want to sell.  It's cheap, it would be good for a shorter 
person.  I made it, and then decided to go with a different type of fur 
for the rest of the suit, so don't need it now.  Email me if interested.

Orwin


~7~CyanFOX~7~ wrote:
> wow that's a good deal: so you paid 0.42 cents per gallon of diesel :3
>
> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com 
> <mailto:donkeyears at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     They raised the price wail I was asleep. I paid $4.67 for 200
>     gallons.
>
>
>     On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com
>     <mailto:donkeyears at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         YA tell me about it! $4.60 a gallon.
>
>         Donkey the low fuel ass in NY state.
>
>
>         On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 5:20 AM, <ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com
>         <mailto:ShyMatsiLupine at aol.com>> wrote:
>
>             Awh , but yeah, I agree... and with the price of  diesel
>             going up in the
>             NJ/NY area, trucks are not the best option :(
>
>             Shy  Matsi
>             FA:United 2008, August 1st - 3rd
>             NJ Furry Convention in Newark,  NJ
>             www.faunited.org <http://www.faunited.org>
>             >>>
>             In a message dated 5/10/2008 8:17:19  A.M. Eastern
>             Daylight Time,
>             donkeyears at gmail.com <mailto:donkeyears at gmail.com> writes:
>             Sorry, but don't  expect this ass ever to show up. NYC and
>             NJ are driving &
>             parking hell holes  for truckers.
>
>             I hope you find some one willing to help.
>
>             His Most  Royal Highass, Donkey
>
>
>
>
>             **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new
>             twists on family
>             favorites at AOL Food.
>             (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)
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From camerapup at charter.net  Sun May 11 14:48:05 2008
From: camerapup at charter.net (Camerapup)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 11:48:05 -0700
Subject: FL: Black Body Suit
In-Reply-To: <48272F20.4050301@shaw.ca>
References: <c4f.2a27c2a3.3556ecf1@aol.com><d23d76ca0805100601w54329191pc46f8448317b02e4@mail.gmail.com><d23d76ca0805101959y503d0acapb672c5ee510cea78@mail.gmail.com><b1c118750805102016o66ffd8e5g464ffd348a614694@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <71B71527BFD04EB284B8480E128B37AA@DualCorePC>

Hehe but Orwin good buddy your not very short? ;0

Camerapup


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Orwin Raqoon" <orwin at shaw.ca>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: FL: FA:United is Looking for fursuit related Panels



> 
> Now to add something that is on topic... I still have a new black body 
> suit I want to sell.  It's cheap, it would be good for a shorter 
> person.  I made it, and then decided to go with a different type of fur 
> for the rest of the suit, so don't need it now.  Email me if interested.
> 
> Orwin
> 


From camstone at dirtdeninn.com  Sun May 11 20:59:44 2008
From: camstone at dirtdeninn.com (Camstone)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 20:59:44 -0400
Subject: FL:  From FA:United to Fursuit Studio
In-Reply-To: <48272F20.4050301@shaw.ca>
References: <c4f.2a27c2a3.3556ecf1@aol.com>
	<d23d76ca0805100601w54329191pc46f8448317b02e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<d23d76ca0805101959y503d0acapb672c5ee510cea78@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1c118750805102016o66ffd8e5g464ffd348a614694@mail.gmail.com>
	<48272F20.4050301@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <48279680.6060809@dirtdeninn.com>

Orwin Raqoon wrote:
> Not to gripe at anyone here, but can we at least -try- to keep things 
> on topic?
Ditto. Make fursuits, not spam.

On that note, my wife promised me a sewing station in our house to make 
the bodysuit for "Camstone II." Of course, I am still waiting for the 
nursery in same said house to get cleaned out for our 4 month old 
daughter. =/

Any suggestions on supplies specific to fursuiting that I should get, 
from the Pros?
Already have a good strong sewing machine, and the basic supplies... so 
anything not so obvious?

- Camstone

From jazmyn at furrystuff.com  Thu May 15 00:22:32 2008
From: jazmyn at furrystuff.com (Jazmyn Concolor)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 21:22:32 -0700
Subject: FL: Califur fursuit programing
Message-ID: <482BBA88.7070103@furrystuff.com>

Forwarded from SoCal Furs list. Con info at http://www.califur.com/

Rod O'Riley wrote: Hey, fur-suit folks! Here's just some of the cool 
things going on at
CaliFur this weekend:

* The Friday Night Dance -- the first hour is fur-suit friendly. We
leave the lights on!

* The Fur Suit Show & Tell (Saturday afternoon) -- Have a skit you
want to present in suit? Or just want to show off your latest creation
on stage? This is the place!

* The Fur Suit Parade (Saturday afternoon) -- March through the Den of
Dealers and out to the Pool for pictures!

* Start with a Design (Friday afternoon) -- Drawing up the innards and
the out-ards before you ever begin to sew...

* The Fur-Suit Meet-and-Greet (Friday evening) -- Hang out with some
of your fellow creators and performers, and discuss what's the latest.

* Fur-Suit Performance Workshop (Sunday morning) -- Wow-ing them on
stage, and staying safe while you do so!

* Fur-Suit Wii Bowling (Sunday morning) -- What more can you say??

* Furry Improv Workshop and Show (Sunday afternoon) -- Coming up with
funny stuff quickly. Think fast!

Check your Pocket Program for the exact times and locations of all
these and more. And get in touch with me if you'd like to present!
Thanks -- we need all the help we can get! ^^

ROR
CaliFur Programming


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From tygrcwby at hotmail.com  Mon May 19 16:30:17 2008
From: tygrcwby at hotmail.com (Christopher "Tyger" Roth)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:30:17 -0500
Subject: FL: Presenting MFM 12's Guest of Honor!
Message-ID: <BAY131-DS55DC0422B1A2BA1881D6FD8C50@phx.gbl>

We are proud to present MFM 12's Guest of Honor  - Panda Guy!

Panda Guy is a long time Fursuiter and actually was key in getting the 
Fursuit Track started at MFM, one of the first of it's kind with more 
dedicated programming for Fursuiters. He has worked tirelessly through the 
years in a variety of ventures and has created numerous characters.

I know he is planning some special happenings at MFM and it's sure to be a 
good time!

So if you see PG online please give him congrats and come to MFM 12 and see 
what he has in store for us!!!

Tyger
MFM Con Chair 


From stego at cpl.net  Mon May 19 19:32:27 2008
From: stego at cpl.net (Stego)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 16:32:27 -0700
Subject: FL: Califur Fursuit Parade Video!
In-Reply-To: <BAY131-DS55DC0422B1A2BA1881D6FD8C50@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY131-DS55DC0422B1A2BA1881D6FD8C50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <48320E0B.7080900@cpl.net>

Video Link at YouTube

   http://youtube.com/watch?v=KI05voh5MrQ

Heylos all!
  Thanks to Tim Kangaroo, who posted his video of this years Fursuit 
Parade at Califur 2.4!  By a count of the suits in the video, there were 
64 suiters in the parade: Total fursuit count at a Con with (i would 
estimate) about 500 people attending would be close to 80, as there were 
quite a few suiters (including myself) who watched the parade from the 
sidelines, which means that a little more than 1/6th the attending 
populace of the con were Suiters this year :) (Makes me feel all warm n 
fuzzy, considering how many new fursuiters keep showing up year after year).

Anyhoo, Enjoy the Video, and Thanks Again, Tim!!


From shymatsilupine at aol.com  Fri May  2 18:04:50 2008
From: shymatsilupine at aol.com (Shy Matsi)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 22:04:50 -0000
Subject: FL: FA:United is in 90 Days!
Message-ID: <8CA7AB7966F4CE9-97C-4D14@webmail-dd03.sysops.aol.com>


 FA:United! 75 days left to Pre-Register!
90 days left until the convention!

FA: United
Aug 1-3, 2008
Marriott Newark Airport Hotel
Furry Convention in Newark, NJ
http://www.faunited.org

In the May News Letter
Online Registration - Ends July 15th!
Hotel Reservations - Reserve by July 15th for only $99 a night, rates good 7/31-8/4/2008!
Dealer Registration - Act now!
Call for Panelists - Want to host a panel? 
Convention Charity - New Charity for 2008! 
Website updates - Hall of Memories!
Room OM NOM! - For you and me! 
Community - FA, Google Mailing list, LiveJournal, Forums, MySpace, YouTube!
Volunteering - Learn how to get a backstage pass!
Video - A blast from the past, something from our masquerade!? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbV1oeCD4VY
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

ONLINE REGISTRATION
Online Registration Ends July 15th! Just $30 to Pre-Register for tickets to the best concert of 2008! Purchase membership levels as a Groupie, Roadie, Front Row, or Number One Fan! All the prices and perks are listed on the website, http://www.faunited.org Number One Fan's get an extra special gift, but in order to confirm your hold on one at the convention, you must register no later then July 15th!

HOTEL RESERVATIONS
Rooms are going fast so hurry and reserve your room for just $99 a night! Call the Marriott (1-800-228-9290) and tell them your reserving your room for the 'Fur Affinity: United Convention' to get the special rate! No extra costs for Single/Double/Triple/Quads Occupancy! You must reserve your room by 5:00pm on July 18th!

DEALERS
Dealers! Tables are almost sold out!! If you still want a table, send an email to dealers at faunited.org or go to our website and click through to dealer information!? Every Dealer level includes one Groupie Membership (our basic level). 

PANELISTS
Want to host a panel at FA:United? We want you to come be a part of the fun! Showcase a talent, teach a workshop, or Socialize with an interest group! Send an E-mail to panels at faunited.org or go to our website and click through to panels to find out more on how you can host a panel!

CHARITY
We have a new charity for 2008! The New Jersey Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals! The NJSPCA advocates for the animals of New Jersey by advancing their welfare, promoting their interests, and fostering the human-animal bond through programs, education, and service. The New Jersey Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals was created in 1868. Its agents were established as Law Enforcement Officers in charge of investigating and prosecuting all persons involved in Animal abuse and neglect. To learn more about them go to our website and click through to Charity. You can find out even more at www.njspca.org

WEBSITE UPDATES
Visit our website for new updates and announcements about FA:United 2008! A new section on our website is called Hall of Memories! Click on 2007 to see videos and pics, find out how to submit your own to be added! 

ROOM OM NOM! 
ROOM OM NOMNOMNOMNOM! Spending all your money on gas for traveling, our awesome T-Shirt, a hotel room, and commissions in the Dealers Room? Find out you have no money left for NOMs?? Come over to our consuite and get your feed! You may have heard the rumors, and they are all true! Come find out why we believe we have the best ConSuite on the east coast! It is open to all attendees.

COMMUNITY
Keep in tune, join FA: United's mailing list today! Visit our forums to keep in touch with Staff and other members of the community! All on our website, http://www.faunited.org
We also have FA Profile: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/faunited
A Live Journal Community: http://community.livejournal.com/faunited
A MySpace page: http://groups.myspace.com/faunitedfurrycon
And a YouTube Profile: http://www.youtube.com/faunited

VOLUNTEER BACKSTAGE
Interested in lending a hand volunteering and getting a Backstage Pass to everything FA: United '08? That's the spirit! Backstage Pass members get to help the staff of FA:U to ensure that our rockstar guests have everything they need! Find out more on our website or sign up at the convention!

VIDEO ( http://www.youtube.com/faunited )
A blast from the Past! FAU2007! A Masquerade skit 
Sox Pup hosts as Dex (AcesWild) makes some magic with the help of Durango Dingo! Tig "Crash" Wolf, Shortwave P. Husky, and JD Puppy also appear. 
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbV1oeCD4VY )

Shy Matsi
FA: United
Aug 1-3, 2008
Marriott Newark Airport Hotel
Newark, NJ
http://www.faunited.org


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From blue_heel at fsun.net  Sun May 11 20:33:29 2008
From: blue_heel at fsun.net (Doctor)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 19:33:29 -0500
Subject: FL: MFM Masq
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080511191504.02489a10@fsun.net>

---
Oh, and remember: next Friday... is Hawaiian shirt day. So, you know, 
if you want to, go ahead and wear a Hawaiian shirt and jeans.
---
Well, maybe not NEXT Friday, but Friday, Aug 29, is also the day to 
sign up for the Masquerade.  I will be out in the Garden Court 
(hopefully with cookies) for those signing up.  Right now would be a 
good time to work on your skits as well.  The more prepared you are 
when you get there, the quicker the rehearsal will go, the more on 
time we become.  There is also a list for those that want to sign up 
so you can kick ideas around.  I would also like to know some ideas 
if you already have them.  I still might have a script or two for 
those that don't have anything already, but we shouldn't rely just on 
those.  Don't forget, the skits can be about anything, but there is a 
"Theme Award,"  and incase you haven't heard (living under a rock or 
something), the theme is Office Space.  This is always well attended, 
and well received.

Blue

--
Blue Heeler SunFire
IM's available upon request
Original member of FSUN (Furry Supporters of Universal Networks)
Blue_Heel on Undernet; FurryMuck; SPR; Tapestries; Yukon Trails
Furry Writer; art collector
www.fsun.net/blue_heel
Furry Code available upon request.


From wildfox34 at gmail.com  Tue May 20 19:26:23 2008
From: wildfox34 at gmail.com (Mike Johnson)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 19:26:23 -0400
Subject: FL: MFM Masq
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080511191504.02489a10@fsun.net>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080511191504.02489a10@fsun.net>
Message-ID: <68be40570805201626i5e77bc8cx6aeae90efe4afe24@mail.gmail.com>

Of course, I'll be an extra for any acts that need extras!  I'll take
whatever part is thrown at me or any of my various characters! ;)

Wildfox

On 5/11/08, Doctor <blue_heel at fsun.net> wrote:
> ---
> Oh, and remember: next Friday... is Hawaiian shirt day. So, you know, if you
> want to, go ahead and wear a Hawaiian shirt and jeans.
> ---
> Well, maybe not NEXT Friday, but Friday, Aug 29, is also the day to sign up
> for the Masquerade.  I will be out in the Garden Court (hopefully with
> cookies) for those signing up.  Right now would be a good time to work on
> your skits as well.  The more prepared you are when you get there, the
> quicker the rehearsal will go, the more on time we become.  There is also a
> list for those that want to sign up so you can kick ideas around.  I would
> also like to know some ideas if you already have them.  I still might have a
> script or two for those that don't have anything already, but we shouldn't
> rely just on those.  Don't forget, the skits can be about anything, but
> there is a "Theme Award,"  and incase you haven't heard (living under a rock
> or something), the theme is Office Space.  This is always well attended, and
> well received.
>
> Blue
>
> --
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> IM's available upon request
> Original member of FSUN (Furry Supporters of Universal Networks)
> Blue_Heel on Undernet; FurryMuck; SPR; Tapestries; Yukon Trails
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From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Wed May 21 12:35:07 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 12:35:07 -0400
Subject: FL: MFM Masq
In-Reply-To: <68be40570805201626i5e77bc8cx6aeae90efe4afe24@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080511191504.02489a10@fsun.net>
	<68be40570805201626i5e77bc8cx6aeae90efe4afe24@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4165e4980805210935k3519d4a7o32f75432bcfd22e2@mail.gmail.com>

wish I could attend all these thing -.- but lack of money and suit prevents
me from doing so..and restraint from the friggen group home I live in..

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Mike Johnson <wildfox34 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Of course, I'll be an extra for any acts that need extras!  I'll take
> whatever part is thrown at me or any of my various characters! ;)
>
> Wildfox
>
> On 5/11/08, Doctor <blue_heel at fsun.net> wrote:
> > ---
> > Oh, and remember: next Friday... is Hawaiian shirt day. So, you know, if
> you
> > want to, go ahead and wear a Hawaiian shirt and jeans.
> > ---
> > Well, maybe not NEXT Friday, but Friday, Aug 29, is also the day to sign
> up
> > for the Masquerade.  I will be out in the Garden Court (hopefully with
> > cookies) for those signing up.  Right now would be a good time to work on
> > your skits as well.  The more prepared you are when you get there, the
> > quicker the rehearsal will go, the more on time we become.  There is also
> a
> > list for those that want to sign up so you can kick ideas around.  I
> would
> > also like to know some ideas if you already have them.  I still might
> have a
> > script or two for those that don't have anything already, but we
> shouldn't
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From francisco-sender-6f5fe9 at vulpes.net  Sat May 24 11:59:33 2008
From: francisco-sender-6f5fe9 at vulpes.net (Francisco Azinsan)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 10:59:33 -0500
Subject: FL: FC2009 May Newsletter
Message-ID: <20080524155933.GA60318@critter.net>

In this issue:
1.  FC 2009 Campout and Picnic
2.  BayCon Party
3.  Announcing our Charities
4.  Hotel News
5.  FC09 Video Room wants you!
6.  Next Staff Meeting



1.  FC 2009 Campout and Picnic

The FC 2009 Picnic will be Saturday August 2nd. starting around 11am, and
will take place at the Lake Chabot Regional Park at the Willow Picnic
Site - <http://www.ebparks.org/parks/lake_chabot>

The FC 2009 Campout will be on Friday August 1st and Saturday August 2nd.
Campout will take place at Anthony Chabot Campsite -
<http://www.ebparks.org/parks/anthony_chabot>. Reservations will be
required for the campout due to a limited amount of spaces for parking
cars. Reservations will open June 2nd and more details will be announced
before this date. The fee for camping is $5 per person per night.

Dogs are allowed at both sites. There is a fee for parking at the Picnic
site as a well as a fee for bringing a dog to the picnic site. 


2.  BayCon Party

Further Confusion will be holding a room party Sunday night at room 348,
starting around 8pm. We will be serving alcoholic and non-alcoholic
drinks, so bring your ID. Be prepared to party ! 


3.  Announcing our Charities

Further Confusion is proud to announce the Charitable Beneficiaries for
2009. This last year marks Further Confusion breaking over $100,000 in
charitable donations during the past 10 years of our convention.

Cheetah Conversation Fund
<http://www.cheetah.org/>

The Cheetah Conservation Fund (CCF) was founded in 1990 by Dr. Laurie
Marker. CCF's mission is to be an internationally recognized centre of
excellence in research and education on cheetahs and their eco-systems,
working with all stakeholders to achieve best practice in the
conservation and management of the world's cheetahs. As Namibia has the
largest and healthiest population of cheetahs left in the world, CCF's
International Research and Education Center is based in Namibia, near
Otjiwarongo.

Guide Dogs for the Blind
<http://www.guidedogs.com>

Guide Dogs for the Blind is a guide dog school in San Rafael. They
organize raising of puppies, train guide dogs, match them with students,
provide training for the guide dog team (and housing during the training
period), and provide ongoing follow-up and veterinary care for the life
of the team. All services are provided free of charge. They've been in
operation over 60 years, and rely entirely on private donations to
operate. 


4.  Hotel News

San Jose DoubleTree

a. Fursuit Floor Transfers: 
We still have a few slots so if you want to transfer onto the Fursuit
Floor, please contact us as specified in the Hotel FAQ.

b. Exec Level Rooms: 
We managed to scrounge up 4 more King Single Exec Level rooms and will be
contacting the waiting list folks for them so pay attention to your
email.

Holiday Inn San Jose 

a. The Room Block at the Holiday Inn is filling fast but we still have
rooms available there.

b. Suites: 
We have 5 suites available at the Holiday Inn for a
bargain rate of $199 per night. We are now willing to open up those
requests to folks not on the Doubletree Suite Waiting list. If you are
interested in one of those rooms, please contact us using the same
procedure as for the Doubletree Suites (except make an initial
reservation at the Holiday Inn of course) laid out in the Doubletree FAQ.


5.  FC09 Video Room wants you!

Have you ever wanted to work for FC, but didn't know how your knowledge of
Furry films, videos, and collection could help? Well, FC09 is working to
rework our video room. This position would include putting together a
playlist, managing staff to run it from the hours of 6-7pm until about 8 -
9 am, and to make sure our video content is great for our convention
goers. For more information or to share your ideas for the FC09 Video
Room, please contact events at furtherconfusion.org. If you would be
interested in taking on this position, please email
HR at furtherconfusion.org and tell them you want to run or work in the FC09
Video Room.


6.  Next Staff Meeting

Our next staff meeting will be on June 14th, starting at 1pm in the San
Jose DoubleTree hotel. Parking is free - we will be providing stickers at
the meeting which will allow the parking staff to know you were with
Further Confusion, and let you out without needing to pay

-- 
Further Confusion
info at furtherconfusion.org
http://www.furtherconfusion.org/

From fox at flyingfox.biz  Wed May 28 14:09:21 2008
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (fox kinsman)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:09:21 -0400
Subject: FL: repair job on local mascot
Message-ID: <6089C1C4-6372-49C9-9652-781D379CC0CF@flyingfox.biz>

Hello!

I may have scored doing some work on a local mascot at a family  
entertainment place -they really want to install a fan or two in the  
head.  I am the kind of guy to practically do it for fun minus the  
parts costs but they already said they'd pay mileage and I have a  
feeling I could even possibly be their local go-to repair guy for  
future needs.  Anyone have any tips, suggestions or stories about  
this kind of thing?  I'd love to hear if you have some to share.
Thanks!!


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From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Wed May 28 14:13:07 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:13:07 -0400
Subject: FL: repair job on local mascot
In-Reply-To: <6089C1C4-6372-49C9-9652-781D379CC0CF@flyingfox.biz>
References: <6089C1C4-6372-49C9-9652-781D379CC0CF@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <4165e4980805281113r514aab4bx3626e6884cb77309@mail.gmail.com>

wow good for you, I've been trying very hard to get a job around mascotting
and fursuiting, but to no avail...-.- Kudos to you my friend! as far as tips
go I don't have any really other than don't say "I can try " cause then that
kinda just throws them off the whole thing really, but still good luck and I
hope all goes well ^^

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:09 PM, fox kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:

>  Hello!
>
> I may have scored doing some work on a local mascot at a family
> entertainment place -they really want to install a fan or two in the head.
> I am the kind of guy to practically do it for fun minus the parts costs but
> they already said they'd pay mileage and I have a feeling I could even
> possibly be their local go-to repair guy for future needs.  Anyone have any
> tips, suggestions or stories about this kind of thing?  I'd love to hear if
> you have some to share.
> Thanks!!
>
>
> Scape
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de  Wed May 28 14:21:10 2008
From: m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de (Markus Kalkbrenner - Maskottchen Germany)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 20:21:10 +0200
Subject: FL: repair job on local mascot
In-Reply-To: <6089C1C4-6372-49C9-9652-781D379CC0CF@flyingfox.biz>
References: <6089C1C4-6372-49C9-9652-781D379CC0CF@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <976809422.20080528202110@maskottchen-germany.de>

Hi

me do regular repairs and washs on mascot on my business.
if the deal is in germany no problem

Atalon the Deer

www.maskottchen-germany.de

> Hello!

> I may have scored doing some work on a local mascot at a family  
> entertainment place -they really want to install a fan or two in the  
> head.  I am the kind of guy to practically do it for fun minus the  
> parts costs but they already said they'd pay mileage and I have a  
> feeling I could even possibly be their local go-to repair guy for  
> future needs.  Anyone have any tips, suggestions or stories about  
> this kind of thing?  I'd love to hear if you have some to share.
> Thanks!!


> Scape







From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Wed May 28 14:29:54 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:29:54 -0400
Subject: FL: repair job on local mascot
In-Reply-To: <976809422.20080528202110@maskottchen-germany.de>
References: <6089C1C4-6372-49C9-9652-781D379CC0CF@flyingfox.biz>
	<976809422.20080528202110@maskottchen-germany.de>
Message-ID: <4165e4980805281129l4bcdc464lc56037778c30abd3@mail.gmail.com>

heh I live in Canada..bleh -.- and it aint easy to find me a job here ..I'm
in Markham Ontario and OMG the ppl here are rude

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Markus Kalkbrenner - Maskottchen Germany <
m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de> wrote:

> Hi
>
> me do regular repairs and washs on mascot on my business.
> if the deal is in germany no problem
>
> Atalon the Deer
>
> www.maskottchen-germany.de
>
> > Hello!
>
> > I may have scored doing some work on a local mascot at a family
> > entertainment place -they really want to install a fan or two in the
> > head.  I am the kind of guy to practically do it for fun minus the
> > parts costs but they already said they'd pay mileage and I have a
> > feeling I could even possibly be their local go-to repair guy for
> > future needs.  Anyone have any tips, suggestions or stories about
> > this kind of thing?  I'd love to hear if you have some to share.
> > Thanks!!
>
>
> > Scape
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From abaddoggy at sbcglobal.net  Wed May 28 14:30:46 2008
From: abaddoggy at sbcglobal.net (Lucky)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 13:30:46 -0500
Subject: FL: tashumitsu@gmail.com
References: <6089C1C4-6372-49C9-9652-781D379CC0CF@flyingfox.biz>
	<4165e4980805281113r514aab4bx3626e6884cb77309@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00be01c8c0f0$f29fc4a0$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>

Hi there

Saw your post to the Fursuit List just now and was curious whereabouts you are located?  What is it that you are trying to get involved in?  Do you have your own suit?  Will you be at anthrocon?

Lucky Dog
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: TashuMitsu Dracosana 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:13 PM
  Subject: Re: FL: repair job on local mascot


  wow good for you, I've been trying very hard to get a job around mascotting and fursuiting, but to no avail...-.- Kudos to you my friend! as far as tips go I don't have any really other than don't say "I can try " cause then that kinda just throws them off the whole thing really, but still good luck and I hope all goes well ^^


  On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:09 PM, fox kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:

    Hello!


    I may have scored doing some work on a local mascot at a family entertainment place -they really want to install a fan or two in the head.  I am the kind of guy to practically do it for fun minus the parts costs but they already said they'd pay mileage and I have a feeling I could even possibly be their local go-to repair guy for future needs.  Anyone have any tips, suggestions or stories about this kind of thing?  I'd love to hear if you have some to share.
    Thanks!!



    Scape











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From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Wed May 28 14:36:40 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:36:40 -0400
Subject: FL: tashumitsu@gmail.com
In-Reply-To: <00be01c8c0f0$f29fc4a0$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>
References: <6089C1C4-6372-49C9-9652-781D379CC0CF@flyingfox.biz>
	<4165e4980805281113r514aab4bx3626e6884cb77309@mail.gmail.com>
	<00be01c8c0f0$f29fc4a0$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>
Message-ID: <4165e4980805281136r76c0b810gc4c84f85d870a835@mail.gmail.com>

who me? umm well I live in Ontario, up in Markham and I have a few partials
I gotta pick up from a move still wich is proving to be difficult but if I
had the right amount of monies like 75 or so I'd have been working on my
Fursona suit -.- I fear I'll be missing Camp Feral this year again...thats
really the only Con I've ever been too. I was hoping to go to Anthrocon or
FA or whatever else is happening but like always that requires money and
therefore a job, but no one wants to hire me cause I live in a damned group
home ><

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Lucky <abaddoggy at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>  Hi there
>
> Saw your post to the Fursuit List just now and was curious whereabouts you
> are located?  What is it that you are trying to get involved in?  Do you
> have your own suit?  Will you be at anthrocon?
>
> Lucky Dog
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* TashuMitsu Dracosana <tashumitsu at gmail.com>
> *To:* fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:13 PM
> *Subject:* Re: FL: repair job on local mascot
>
> wow good for you, I've been trying very hard to get a job around mascotting
> and fursuiting, but to no avail...-.- Kudos to you my friend! as far as tips
> go I don't have any really other than don't say "I can try " cause then that
> kinda just throws them off the whole thing really, but still good luck and I
> hope all goes well ^^
>
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:09 PM, fox kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
>
>>  Hello!
>>
>> I may have scored doing some work on a local mascot at a family
>> entertainment place -they really want to install a fan or two in the head.
>> I am the kind of guy to practically do it for fun minus the parts costs but
>> they already said they'd pay mileage and I have a feeling I could even
>> possibly be their local go-to repair guy for future needs.  Anyone have any
>> tips, suggestions or stories about this kind of thing?  I'd love to hear if
>> you have some to share.
>> Thanks!!
>>
>>
>> Scape
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> _______________________________________________
>> Fursuit Mail list.
>> To edit your subscription, visit:
>> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
>>
>>
>
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From 12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us  Wed May 28 15:39:50 2008
From: 12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us (Arthur Hamilton)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 13:39:50 -0600
Subject: FL: hellow everyone!!!
Message-ID: <1212003590.9505476012AHAMILTON1@Davis.k12.ut.us>

this is slyly fox, the one who sold all the fursuits for a really low price!!! if you remember, i moved to germany! thats why i sold some of my suits!(my wife didn't want to take them all the way there!)anyway...i got here not too long ago, and just wanted to get on the chat line to see what i missed!i have at least a million pages of fursuit mail, and friends asking how germany is! anywhoo,...i want all to know i will be attending 2008 anthrocon and still have one of the suits i was going to sell, the person i was going to sell it to backed out!! i didn't belive it!!!the price was great!!maybee they were jokeing or something...so back to anthrocon..i will attend and bring the suit if anyone is interested, give me an e-mail, and i will bring it..if not, i will just sell it somewhere else!!!!!so if you want to reserve it, please tell me!!!i will be staying with a fur nammed...lucky..if you find us, pull on our tails and let us know who you are and we will take you to the lair(hotel room) and show you!!!
    

                               thanx



slyly fox

From aidenislove at yahoo.com  Wed May 28 15:48:01 2008
From: aidenislove at yahoo.com (Aiden Raccoon)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:48:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: hellow everyone!!!
In-Reply-To: <1212003590.9505476012AHAMILTON1@Davis.k12.ut.us>
Message-ID: <315853.21474.qm@web33903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Lucky Coyote?
Lucky Wolf?
Lucky The Evil Dog?
some other Lucky?

Arthur Hamilton <12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us> wrote: this is slyly fox, the one who sold all the fursuits for a really low price!!! if you remember, i moved to germany! thats why i sold some of my suits!(my wife didn't want to take them all the way there!)anyway...i got here not too long ago, and just wanted to get on the chat line to see what i missed!i have at least a million pages of fursuit mail, and friends asking how germany is! anywhoo,...i want all to know i will be attending 2008 anthrocon and still have one of the suits i was going to sell, the person i was going to sell it to backed out!! i didn't belive it!!!the price was great!!maybee they were jokeing or something...so back to anthrocon..i will attend and bring the suit if anyone is interested, give me an e-mail, and i will bring it..if not, i will just sell it somewhere else!!!!!so if you want to reserve it, please tell me!!!i will be staying with a fur nammed...lucky..if you find us, pull on our tails and
 let us know who you are and we will take you to the lair(
 hotel room) and show you!!!
    

                               thanx



slyly fox
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From abaddoggy at sbcglobal.net  Thu May 29 02:03:27 2008
From: abaddoggy at sbcglobal.net (Lucky)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 01:03:27 -0500
Subject: FL: hellow everyone!!!
References: <315853.21474.qm@web33903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <006101c8c151$b6992260$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>

This is Lucky the Evil Dog.  I have lots of kids named Lucky now, it must be one of them...

Lucky Dog
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Aiden Raccoon 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 2:48 PM
  Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!


  Lucky Coyote?
  Lucky Wolf?
  Lucky The Evil Dog?
  some other Lucky?

  Arthur Hamilton <12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us> wrote:
    this is slyly fox, the one who sold all the fursuits for a really low price!!! if you remember, i moved to germany! thats why i sold some of my suits!(my wife didn't want to take them all the way there!)anyway...i got here not too long ago, and just wanted to get on the chat line to see what i missed!i have at least a million pages of fursuit mail, and friends asking how germany is! anywhoo,...i want all to know i will be attending 2008 anthrocon and still have one of the suits i was going to sell, the person i was going to sell it to backed out!! i didn't belive it!!!the price was great!!maybee they were jokeing or something...so back to anthrocon..i will attend and bring the suit if anyone is interested, give me an e-mail, and i will bring it..if not, i will just sell it somewhere else!!!!!so if you want to reserve it, please tell me!!!i will be staying with a fur nammed...lucky..if you find us, pull on our tails and let us know who you are and we will take you to the lair(
    hotel room) and show you!!!

    thanx

    slyly fox
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From 12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us  Thu May 29 10:55:48 2008
From: 12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us (Arthur Hamilton)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:55:48 -0600
Subject: FL: hellow everyone!!!
Message-ID: <1212072948.8556698012AHAMILTON1@Davis.k12.ut.us>

lucky, my best friend who lives across the street!!thats who.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Lucky" <abaddoggy at sbcglobal.net>
To: <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 01:03:27 -0500
Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!

This is Lucky the Evil Dog.  I have lots of kids named Lucky now, it must be one of them...

Lucky Dog
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Aiden Raccoon 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 2:48 PM
  Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!


  Lucky Coyote?
  Lucky Wolf?
  Lucky The Evil Dog?
  some other Lucky?

  Arthur Hamilton <12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us> wrote:
    this is slyly fox, the one who sold all the fursuits for a really low price!!! if you remember, i moved to germany! thats why i sold some of my suits!(my wife didn't want to take them all the way there!)anyway...i got here not too long ago, and just wanted to get on the chat line to see what i missed!i have at least a million pages of fursuit mail, and friends asking how germany is! anywhoo,...i want all to know i will be attending 2008 anthrocon and still have one of the suits i was going to sell, the person i was going to sell it to backed out!! i didn't belive it!!!the price was great!!maybee they were jokeing or something...so back to anthrocon..i will attend and bring the suit if anyone is interested, give me an e-mail, and i will bring it..if not, i will just sell it somewhere else!!!!!so if you want to reserve it, please tell me!!!i will be staying with a fur nammed...lucky..if you find us, pull on our tails and let us know who you are and we will take you to the lair(
    hotel room) and show you!!!

    thanx

    slyly fox


slyly fox

From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Thu May 29 12:52:32 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:52:32 -0400
Subject: FL: tashumitsu@gmail.com
In-Reply-To: <4165e4980805281136r76c0b810gc4c84f85d870a835@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6089C1C4-6372-49C9-9652-781D379CC0CF@flyingfox.biz>
	<4165e4980805281113r514aab4bx3626e6884cb77309@mail.gmail.com>
	<00be01c8c0f0$f29fc4a0$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>
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when I say group home I mean I came from a broken family..I'm not 15 or
whatever I'm 19 will be 20 in 3 months ugh! and well the month after that
I'll be homeless wich is great ya know -.- cause I can't get a job why?
cause I live in the home..why cause my dad and stepmother are jackasses why?
gee wich I knew..-.- I turned 19 while getting into the home and so I'm the
oldest there and the home staff are all like you have to get a job within
three weeks or else your suspended -.- meh so I get to go live on the
streets for a week hrmm...

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:36 PM, TashuMitsu Dracosana <tashumitsu at gmail.com>
wrote:

> who me? umm well I live in Ontario, up in Markham and I have a few partials
> I gotta pick up from a move still wich is proving to be difficult but if I
> had the right amount of monies like 75 or so I'd have been working on my
> Fursona suit -.- I fear I'll be missing Camp Feral this year again...thats
> really the only Con I've ever been too. I was hoping to go to Anthrocon or
> FA or whatever else is happening but like always that requires money and
> therefore a job, but no one wants to hire me cause I live in a damned group
> home ><
>
>
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Lucky <abaddoggy at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>  Hi there
>>
>> Saw your post to the Fursuit List just now and was curious whereabouts you
>> are located?  What is it that you are trying to get involved in?  Do you
>> have your own suit?  Will you be at anthrocon?
>>
>> Lucky Dog
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* TashuMitsu Dracosana <tashumitsu at gmail.com>
>> *To:* fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:13 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: FL: repair job on local mascot
>>
>> wow good for you, I've been trying very hard to get a job around
>> mascotting and fursuiting, but to no avail...-.- Kudos to you my friend! as
>> far as tips go I don't have any really other than don't say "I can try "
>> cause then that kinda just throws them off the whole thing really, but still
>> good luck and I hope all goes well ^^
>>
>> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:09 PM, fox kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
>>
>>>  Hello!
>>>
>>> I may have scored doing some work on a local mascot at a family
>>> entertainment place -they really want to install a fan or two in the head.
>>> I am the kind of guy to practically do it for fun minus the parts costs but
>>> they already said they'd pay mileage and I have a feeling I could even
>>> possibly be their local go-to repair guy for future needs.  Anyone have any
>>> tips, suggestions or stories about this kind of thing?  I'd love to hear if
>>> you have some to share.
>>> Thanks!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Scape
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
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From wallyfox98 at hotmail.com  Thu May 29 19:42:51 2008
From: wallyfox98 at hotmail.com (Wally_Wabbit/Stephen H./Wallyfox)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 19:42:51 -0400
Subject: FL: tashumitsu@gmail.com
In-Reply-To: <4165e4980805290952j4d4a90d3t60b2a2a3b9ff2321@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6089C1C4-6372-49C9-9652-781D379CC0CF@flyingfox.biz>
	<4165e4980805281113r514aab4bx3626e6884cb77309@mail.gmail.com>
	<00be01c8c0f0$f29fc4a0$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>
	<4165e4980805281136r76c0b810gc4c84f85d870a835@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4165e4980805290952j4d4a90d3t60b2a2a3b9ff2321@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY121-W455F3CF623A79257805989D0BF0@phx.gbl>


This is really topic and personal.  It is the kind of discussion for private email, not out in the group as a whole.
 
Wally_WabbitICQ=86653793 Wally_Wabbit on Furrymuck and Tapestries Wally_Wabbit on IRC/Yiffnet/Anthrochatwallyfox2001 on yahoo messenger wwabbit01 on AIMhttp://www.livejournal.com/users/wally_wabbit/http://www.flickr.com/photos/wally_wabbit


Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:52:32 -0400From: tashumitsu at gmail.comTo: abaddoggy at sbcglobal.net; fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: tashumitsu at gmail.comwhen I say group home I mean I came from a broken family..I'm not 15 or whatever I'm 19 will be 20 in 3 months ugh! and well the month after that I'll be homeless wich is great ya know -.- cause I can't get a job why? cause I live in the home..why cause my dad and stepmother are jackasses why? gee wich I knew..-.- I turned 19 while getting into the home and so I'm the oldest there and the home staff are all like you have to get a job within three weeks or else your suspended -.- meh so I get to go live on the streets for a week hrmm...
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:36 PM, TashuMitsu Dracosana <tashumitsu at gmail.com> wrote:
who me? umm well I live in Ontario, up in Markham and I have a few partials I gotta pick up from a move still wich is proving to be difficult but if I had the right amount of monies like 75 or so I'd have been working on my Fursona suit -.- I fear I'll be missing Camp Feral this year again...thats really the only Con I've ever been too. I was hoping to go to Anthrocon or FA or whatever else is happening but like always that requires money and therefore a job, but no one wants to hire me cause I live in a damned group home >< 



On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Lucky <abaddoggy at sbcglobal.net> wrote:


Hi there
 
Saw your post to the Fursuit List just now and was curious whereabouts you are located?  What is it that you are trying to get involved in?  Do you have your own suit?  Will you be at anthrocon?
 
Lucky Dog

----- Original Message ----- 
From: TashuMitsu Dracosana 
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: FL: repair job on local mascot
wow good for you, I've been trying very hard to get a job around mascotting and fursuiting, but to no avail...-.- Kudos to you my friend! as far as tips go I don't have any really other than don't say "I can try " cause then that kinda just throws them off the whole thing really, but still good luck and I hope all goes well ^^
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:09 PM, fox kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:



Hello!

I may have scored doing some work on a local mascot at a family entertainment place -they really want to install a fan or two in the head.  I am the kind of guy to practically do it for fun minus the parts costs but they already said they'd pay mileage and I have a feeling I could even possibly be their local go-to repair guy for future needs.  Anyone have any tips, suggestions or stories about this kind of thing?  I'd love to hear if you have some to share.
Thanks!!

Scape


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From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Thu May 29 20:22:30 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:22:30 -0400
Subject: FL: tashumitsu@gmail.com
In-Reply-To: <BAY121-W455F3CF623A79257805989D0BF0@phx.gbl>
References: <6089C1C4-6372-49C9-9652-781D379CC0CF@flyingfox.biz>
	<4165e4980805281113r514aab4bx3626e6884cb77309@mail.gmail.com>
	<00be01c8c0f0$f29fc4a0$c008fea9@useryhssin5dcv>
	<4165e4980805281136r76c0b810gc4c84f85d870a835@mail.gmail.com>
	<4165e4980805290952j4d4a90d3t60b2a2a3b9ff2321@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY121-W455F3CF623A79257805989D0BF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4165e4980805291722j5ec108aahfa3b7db06c79b669@mail.gmail.com>

sorry bout that, I just get emails back and fourth from the list now and
then, but I know for next time

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Wally_Wabbit/Stephen H. /Wallyfox <
wallyfox98 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  This is really topic and personal.  It is the kind of discussion for
> private email, not out in the group as a whole.
>
> Wally_Wabbit
>
> ICQ=86653793
> Wally_Wabbit on Furrymuck and Tapestries
> Wally_Wabbit on IRC/Yiffnet/Anthrochat
> wallyfox2001 on yahoo messenger
> wwabbit01 on AIM
> http://www.livejournal.com/users/wally_wabbit/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/wally_wabbit
>
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:52:32 -0400
> From: tashumitsu at gmail.com
> To: abaddoggy at sbcglobal.net; fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: tashumitsu at gmail.com
>
>
> when I say group home I mean I came from a broken family..I'm not 15 or
> whatever I'm 19 will be 20 in 3 months ugh! and well the month after that
> I'll be homeless wich is great ya know -.- cause I can't get a job why?
> cause I live in the home..why cause my dad and stepmother are jackasses why?
> gee wich I knew..-.- I turned 19 while getting into the home and so I'm the
> oldest there and the home staff are all like you have to get a job within
> three weeks or else your suspended -.- meh so I get to go live on the
> streets for a week hrmm...
>
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:36 PM, TashuMitsu Dracosana <
> tashumitsu at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> who me? umm well I live in Ontario, up in Markham and I have a few partials
> I gotta pick up from a move still wich is proving to be difficult but if I
> had the right amount of monies like 75 or so I'd have been working on my
> Fursona suit -.- I fear I'll be missing Camp Feral this year again...thats
> really the only Con I've ever been too. I was hoping to go to Anthrocon or
> FA or whatever else is happening but like always that requires money and
> therefore a job, but no one wants to hire me cause I live in a damned group
> home ><
>
>
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Lucky <abaddoggy at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>  Hi there
>
> Saw your post to the Fursuit List just now and was curious whereabouts you
> are located?  What is it that you are trying to get involved in?  Do you
> have your own suit?  Will you be at anthrocon?
>
> Lucky Dog
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* TashuMitsu Dracosana <tashumitsu at gmail.com>
> *To:* fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:13 PM
> *Subject:* Re: FL: repair job on local mascot
>
> wow good for you, I've been trying very hard to get a job around mascotting
> and fursuiting, but to no avail...-.- Kudos to you my friend! as far as tips
> go I don't have any really other than don't say "I can try " cause then that
> kinda just throws them off the whole thing really, but still good luck and I
> hope all goes well ^^
>
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:09 PM, fox kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:
>
>  Hello!
>
> I may have scored doing some work on a local mascot at a family
> entertainment place -they really want to install a fan or two in the head.
> I am the kind of guy to practically do it for fun minus the parts costs but
> they already said they'd pay mileage and I have a feeling I could even
> possibly be their local go-to repair guy for future needs.  Anyone have any
> tips, suggestions or stories about this kind of thing?  I'd love to hear if
> you have some to share.
> Thanks!!
>
>
> Scape
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> To edit your subscription, visit:
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From winraven at gmail.com  Fri May 30 12:34:32 2008
From: winraven at gmail.com (adolphus cammack)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:34:32 -0500
Subject: FL: hellow everyone!!!
In-Reply-To: <1212003590.9505476012AHAMILTON1@Davis.k12.ut.us>
References: <1212003590.9505476012AHAMILTON1@Davis.k12.ut.us>
Message-ID: <a7def1a50805300934j204babb5h3d5e1b6427cb8695@mail.gmail.com>

hello can you tell me what animal the suit is if so i will have the monie if
i find you and want it
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From the_soulwolf at hotmail.com  Sat May 31 18:38:29 2008
From: the_soulwolf at hotmail.com (SoulWolf .)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 18:38:29 -0400
Subject: FL: Darkstone?
Message-ID: <BAY121-W7239121E5F688F45B42C3FEB90@phx.gbl>


Hi all, I was just wondering if anyone knows what happened to Darkstone Realms?  Their website has been down for a while now and was wondering if they are still in business, and if they can still be contacted?


Thanks


~SoulWolf~

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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sat May 31 20:15:20 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 17:15:20 -0700
Subject: FL: Darkstone?
In-Reply-To: <BAY121-W7239121E5F688F45B42C3FEB90@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY121-W7239121E5F688F45B42C3FEB90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0805311715s7fe1d2e6qde566aa00b6fe8a8@mail.gmail.com>

That was talked about on list some time ago. What people here think is that
they went under. Which is to bad. I liked there half masks. I got two of
them some years ago and might have gotten some more in the future.

Donkey

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 3:38 PM, SoulWolf . <the_soulwolf at hotmail.com>
wrote:

>  Hi all, I was just wondering if anyone knows what happened to Darkstone
> Realms?  Their website has been down for a while now and was wondering if
> they are still in business, and if they can still be contacted?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> ~SoulWolf~
>
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>
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From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Sun Jun  1 01:09:06 2008
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 23:09:06 -0600
Subject: FL: Darkstone?
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0805311715s7fe1d2e6qde566aa00b6fe8a8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY121-W7239121E5F688F45B42C3FEB90@phx.gbl>
	<d23d76ca0805311715s7fe1d2e6qde566aa00b6fe8a8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY101-W3B946EDE327AE9D0E9877A9B80@phx.gbl>


I heard that they did not go under but that they closed their site so they can catch up on older orders.


Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 17:15:20 -0700From: donkeyears at gmail.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: Darkstone?That was talked about on list some time ago. What people here think is that they went under. Which is to bad. I liked there half masks. I got two of them some years ago and might have gotten some more in the future. Donkey
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 3:38 PM, SoulWolf . <the_soulwolf at hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi all, I was just wondering if anyone knows what happened to Darkstone Realms?  Their website has been down for a while now and was wondering if they are still in business, and if they can still be contacted?Thanks~SoulWolf~

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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sun Jun  1 04:36:46 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 01:36:46 -0700
Subject: FL: Darkstone?
In-Reply-To: <BAY101-W3B946EDE327AE9D0E9877A9B80@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY121-W7239121E5F688F45B42C3FEB90@phx.gbl>
	<d23d76ca0805311715s7fe1d2e6qde566aa00b6fe8a8@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY101-W3B946EDE327AE9D0E9877A9B80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0806010136w197e3a68sa8d26f32179ba835@mail.gmail.com>

That's a bad business decision . In the long run you will only hurt your
self doing that. People will not want to trust you if they don't think your
a stable business. NO, there gone.

Donkey

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 10:09 PM, shane ramos <tsukasa06 at msn.com> wrote:

>  I heard that they did not go under but that they closed their site so they
> can catch up on older orders.
>
>  ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 17:15:20 -0700
> From: donkeyears at gmail.com
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: Darkstone?
>
>
> That was talked about on list some time ago. What people here think is that
> they went under. Which is to bad. I liked there half masks. I got two of
> them some years ago and might have gotten some more in the future.
>
> Donkey
>
> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 3:38 PM, SoulWolf . <the_soulwolf at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all, I was just wondering if anyone knows what happened to Darkstone
> Realms?  Their website has been down for a while now and was wondering if
> they are still in business, and if they can still be contacted?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> ~SoulWolf~
>
> ------------------------------
>
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From m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de  Sun Jun  1 04:53:49 2008
From: m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de (Markus Kalkbrenner - Maskottchen Germany)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 10:53:49 +0200
Subject: FL: Darkstone?
In-Reply-To: <BAY101-W3B946EDE327AE9D0E9877A9B80@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY121-W7239121E5F688F45B42C3FEB90@phx.gbl>
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	<BAY101-W3B946EDE327AE9D0E9877A9B80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1929656704.20080601105349@maskottchen-germany.de>

He Folks

Got 1 Week ago a tigersuit i ordered 8 Months ago.
Okay at least i got the suit. But the deal i had with the basketball
club is gone.
A other suit who hangs in the racks - sadly

Atalon


> I heard that they did not go under but that they closed their site
> so they can catch up on older orders.


> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 17:15:20 -0700From: donkeyears at gmail.comTo:
> fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: Darkstone?That was
> talked about on list some time ago. What people here think is that
> they went under. Which is to bad. I liked there half masks. I got
> two of them some years ago and might have gotten some more in the future. Donkey
> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 3:38 PM, SoulWolf . <the_soulwolf at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all, I was just wondering if anyone knows what happened to
> Darkstone Realms?  Their website has been down for a while now and
> was wondering if they are still in business, and if they can still be contacted?Thanks~SoulWolf~

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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sun Jun  1 06:10:11 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 03:10:11 -0700
Subject: FL: Darkstone?
In-Reply-To: <1929656704.20080601105349@maskottchen-germany.de>
References: <BAY121-W7239121E5F688F45B42C3FEB90@phx.gbl>
	<d23d76ca0805311715s7fe1d2e6qde566aa00b6fe8a8@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY101-W3B946EDE327AE9D0E9877A9B80@phx.gbl>
	<1929656704.20080601105349@maskottchen-germany.de>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0806010310h6987adaev46e19bd26819348a@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe thy are still in business. but I will never order anything from them
again. They can not be trusted to be there to fill the order.

Donkey

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 1:53 AM, Markus Kalkbrenner - Maskottchen Germany <
m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de> wrote:

> He Folks
>
> Got 1 Week ago a tigersuit i ordered 8 Months ago.
> Okay at least i got the suit. But the deal i had with the basketball
> club is gone.
> A other suit who hangs in the racks - sadly
>
> Atalon
>
>
> > I heard that they did not go under but that they closed their site
> > so they can catch up on older orders.
>
>
> > Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 17:15:20 -0700From: donkeyears at gmail.comTo:
> > fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: Darkstone?That was
> > talked about on list some time ago. What people here think is that
> > they went under. Which is to bad. I liked there half masks. I got
> > two of them some years ago and might have gotten some more in the future.
> Donkey
> > On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 3:38 PM, SoulWolf . <the_soulwolf at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all, I was just wondering if anyone knows what happened to
> > Darkstone Realms?  Their website has been down for a while now and
> > was wondering if they are still in business, and if they can still be
> contacted?Thanks~SoulWolf~
>
> >
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sun Jun  1 06:16:01 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 03:16:01 -0700
Subject: FL: Darkstone?
In-Reply-To: <1929656704.20080601105349@maskottchen-germany.de>
References: <BAY121-W7239121E5F688F45B42C3FEB90@phx.gbl>
	<d23d76ca0805311715s7fe1d2e6qde566aa00b6fe8a8@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY101-W3B946EDE327AE9D0E9877A9B80@phx.gbl>
	<1929656704.20080601105349@maskottchen-germany.de>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0806010316j24b29a0aue079f2ca444221e2@mail.gmail.com>

I just realized that your in Germany and you said Basketball. I never new
that basketball was liked in Germany. I guess that shows how much I pay
action to spectator sports.

Donkey

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 1:53 AM, Markus Kalkbrenner - Maskottchen Germany <
m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de> wrote:

> He Folks
>
> Got 1 Week ago a tigersuit i ordered 8 Months ago.
> Okay at least i got the suit. But the deal i had with the basketball
> club is gone.
> A other suit who hangs in the racks - sadly
>
> Atalon
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From 12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us  Thu Jun  5 21:52:41 2008
From: 12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us (Arthur Hamilton)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:52:41 -0600
Subject: FL: hellow everyone!!!
Message-ID: <1212717161.c8ee9d8012AHAMILTON1@Davis.k12.ut.us>

its a male wolfe!!! i will be slyly fox

-----Original Message-----
From: "adolphus cammack" <winraven at gmail.com>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:34:32 -0500
Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!

hello can you tell me what animal the suit is if so i will have the monie if
i find you and want it


slyly fox

From jpa2blue at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  6 01:58:42 2008
From: jpa2blue at yahoo.com (John Arroyo)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 22:58:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: hellow everyone!!!
Message-ID: <320034.71913.qm@web35304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Foxtails here...sorry for interupting any particular subject but I thought I should tell everybody that I have joined the Furnation website. Also to add, I am currently constructing my own Fursuit...you guessed it...the fox suit...anybody know where I can get discounted long hair fur and claws? I am open to opinions.



----- Original Message ----
From: Arthur Hamilton <12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 6:52:41 PM
Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!

its a male wolfe!!! i will be slyly fox

-----Original Message-----
From: "adolphus cammack" <winraven at gmail.com>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:34:32 -0500
Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!

hello can you tell me what animal the suit is if so i will have the monie if
i find you and want it


slyly fox
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From synthwolf at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 12:41:23 2008
From: synthwolf at gmail.com (Jon Lee)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 09:41:23 -0700
Subject: FL: hellow everyone!!!
In-Reply-To: <320034.71913.qm@web35304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <320034.71913.qm@web35304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <60e717ff0806060941q3e87608ah2a9782d95601c319@mail.gmail.com>

Good claws are found at greyowlcrafts.com, they sell them in bulk, and they
look really nice.  Discounted long fur... Hmm, well there's a shop near me
that has it, if you live anywhere near Mt. Vernon, WA...*snickers*  But that
one still escapes me, good luck^^

Peace,
--Synth

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:58 PM, John Arroyo <jpa2blue at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Foxtails here...sorry for interupting any particular subject but I thought
> I should tell everybody that I have joined the Furnation website. Also to
> add, I am currently constructing my own Fursuit...you guessed it...the fox
> suit...anybody know where I can get discounted long hair fur and claws? I am
> open to opinions.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Arthur Hamilton <12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us>
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 6:52:41 PM
> Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!
>
> its a male wolfe!!! i will be slyly fox
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "adolphus cammack" <winraven at gmail.com>
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:34:32 -0500
> Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!
>
> hello can you tell me what animal the suit is if so i will have the monie
> if
> i find you and want it
>
>
> slyly fox
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 22:34:27 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 19:34:27 -0700
Subject: FL: harness
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0806061934o6e0ae841n9abb2f5c4b0d26e2@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all. I was wondering where the dogs have been getting there harness for
there fursuits. I was asked to wear Donkey to pull a donkey cart with a
sound system for a fursuit parade at a con.

Donkey
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From tjcoyote at pobox.com  Fri Jun  6 23:48:33 2008
From: tjcoyote at pobox.com (TJCoyote)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 23:48:33 -0400
Subject: FL: harness
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0806061934o6e0ae841n9abb2f5c4b0d26e2@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <d23d76ca0806061934o6e0ae841n9abb2f5c4b0d26e2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20080606234633.03d83ec0@pop.earthlink.net>

While I'm sure there's other places to get a harness, why not get one from 
a husky fursuiter:  http://shortwave81.livejournal.com/profile   Shortwave 
Husky custom-makes them.

-- TJCoyote

At 10:34 PM 6/6/2008, you wrote:
>Hi all. I was wondering where the dogs have been getting there harness for 
>there fursuits. I was asked to wear Donkey to pull a donkey cart with a 
>sound system for a fursuit parade at a con.
>
>Donkey
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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Sat Jun  7 02:22:05 2008
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 02:22:05 -0400
Subject: FL: harness
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20080606234633.03d83ec0@pop.earthlink.net>
References: <d23d76ca0806061934o6e0ae841n9abb2f5c4b0d26e2@mail.gmail.com>
	<6.1.2.0.2.20080606234633.03d83ec0@pop.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <577261b40806062322i67881002j57128a20679e431e@mail.gmail.com>

Coolies thanks for the link, I need one too, as I plan on pulling a sled
around FWA09 a bit in my new husky suit that'll be done by then.  I've been
looking for a while for a harness and I've yet to find something that I
really like, this may do the trick.
-Foxwolf 9-Tails
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From fuzzyroo at gmail.com  Sat Jun  7 06:04:28 2008
From: fuzzyroo at gmail.com (Lucus Rocket)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 05:04:28 -0500
Subject: FL: harness
In-Reply-To: <577261b40806062322i67881002j57128a20679e431e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d23d76ca0806061934o6e0ae841n9abb2f5c4b0d26e2@mail.gmail.com>
	<6.1.2.0.2.20080606234633.03d83ec0@pop.earthlink.net>
	<577261b40806062322i67881002j57128a20679e431e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <186b03790806070304n20b2f05dp6bc03433aa8b1908@mail.gmail.com>

oh, hey that's where? i was curious too...not "dog" but was thinking
of maybe getting one just for fun and giggles :P

and speaking of shortwave, i've been needing to get a hold of 'em to
say "hello again" lol, haven't seen him since last ac and was curious
if he was going to this upcoming con to give him and everyone hugs in
my new suit..

On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Foxwolf 9-Tails <foxwolfac at gmail.com> wrote:
> Coolies thanks for the link, I need one too, as I plan on pulling a sled
> around FWA09 a bit in my new husky suit that'll be done by then.  I've been
> looking for a while for a harness and I've yet to find something that I
> really like, this may do the trick.
> -Foxwolf 9-Tails
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From blue_heel at fsun.net  Mon Jun  9 00:09:44 2008
From: blue_heel at fsun.net (Doctor)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:09:44 -0500
Subject: FL: Robert King
In-Reply-To: <68be40570805201626i5e77bc8cx6aeae90efe4afe24@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080511191504.02489a10@fsun.net>
	<68be40570805201626i5e77bc8cx6aeae90efe4afe24@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080608230900.02449c98@fsun.net>

Since I don't seem to have it on this computer, what's Robert's email?

Blue


--
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IM's available upon request
Original member of FSUN (Furry Supporters of Universal Networks)
Blue_Heel on Undernet; FurryMuck; SPR; Tapestries; Yukon Trails
Furry Writer; art collector
www.fsun.net/blue_heel
Furry Code available upon request.


From wildfox34 at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 05:10:24 2008
From: wildfox34 at gmail.com (Mike Johnson)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 05:10:24 -0400
Subject: FL: Robert King
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080608230900.02449c98@fsun.net>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080511191504.02489a10@fsun.net>
	<68be40570805201626i5e77bc8cx6aeae90efe4afe24@mail.gmail.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080608230900.02449c98@fsun.net>
Message-ID: <68be40570806090210t642b439ex8857216fbebfac85@mail.gmail.com>

Sending it to you in private...

Wildfox

On 6/9/08, Doctor <blue_heel at fsun.net> wrote:
> Since I don't seem to have it on this computer, what's Robert's email?
>
> Blue
>
>
> --
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> IM's available upon request
> Original member of FSUN (Furry Supporters of Universal Networks)
> Blue_Heel on Undernet; FurryMuck; SPR; Tapestries; Yukon Trails
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>
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From monkaya_blue_wolf at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  9 19:05:41 2008
From: monkaya_blue_wolf at yahoo.com (Monkaya)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:05:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: harness
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0806061934o6e0ae841n9abb2f5c4b0d26e2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <992004.74873.qm@web55915.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

____________________
	1 - Harness:
	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	->- DONKY:  ... wondering where the dogs have been getting there harness

	Ye could build you own.  This page includes pics of my home crafted leather one with 40 millimeter wide straps:
http://www.geocities.com/monkayawerewolf/Wolf_Bureau/Fursuit/Full_Suit/Full_Suit.htm
	
    ________________________
    |
    |	 |\,/|
    |	< * * > Happy trails!
    |	  \_/
    |	   - 'Monkaya'
    |	friendly neighborhood werewolf.
    |
'Monkaya's Gallery'
http://www.geocities.com/monkayawerewolf/Wolf_Main_Frame.htm
    |
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


      


From karen.upfront at shaw.ca  Mon Jun  9 19:27:38 2008
From: karen.upfront at shaw.ca (KAREN DOLLMONT)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:27:38 -0600
Subject: FL: hair for bobble head mascot.. help
In-Reply-To: <992004.74873.qm@web55915.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <d23d76ca0806061934o6e0ae841n9abb2f5c4b0d26e2@mail.gmail.com>
	<992004.74873.qm@web55915.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f317f03764c2c.484d680a@shaw.ca>

I am making a bobble head mascot that is supose to look like a doll head, the problem is it has long hair down to your waist and needs to look like hair. I have tried a wig from a costume shop and put a few togeather but they turned into a mess as soon as it was active.. any advice or know where I can get a fiber wig.. 
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From m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de  Tue Jun 10 01:59:07 2008
From: m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de (Markus Kalkbrenner - Maskottchen Germany)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:59:07 +0200
Subject: FL: hair for bobble head mascot.. help
In-Reply-To: <f317f03764c2c.484d680a@shaw.ca>
References: <d23d76ca0806061934o6e0ae841n9abb2f5c4b0d26e2@mail.gmail.com>
	<992004.74873.qm@web55915.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<f317f03764c2c.484d680a@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <357915147.20080610075907@maskottchen-germany.de>

Hi

I usally use Long Fur Floor about 100mm

Try that:

http://www.maskottchen-germany.de/german/referenzmascot/Wollemaus.htm

or other way but looks more Doll like.
Look for thick woolen strings also used for Petroleum Lamps -  thickness about
5-7mm and cut em in length and glue each one in a textile which you at
last will glue on the head.

Greetings

Atalon

> I am making a bobble head mascot that is supose to look like a doll
> head, the problem is it has long hair down to your waist and needs
> to look like hair. I have tried a wig from a costume shop and put a
> few togeather but they turned into a mess as soon as it was active..
> any advice or know where I can get a fiber wig.. 


From karen.upfront at shaw.ca  Tue Jun 10 10:02:45 2008
From: karen.upfront at shaw.ca (Karen Dollmont)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:02:45 -0600
Subject: FL: hair for bobble head mascot.. help
In-Reply-To: <357915147.20080610075907@maskottchen-germany.de>
References: <d23d76ca0806061934o6e0ae841n9abb2f5c4b0d26e2@mail.gmail.com>
	<992004.74873.qm@web55915.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<f317f03764c2c.484d680a@shaw.ca>
	<357915147.20080610075907@maskottchen-germany.de>
Message-ID: <003201c8cb02$a8876dc0$f9964940$%upfront@shaw.ca>

Great advice but where do I find each. I like the woollen strings idea as it
needs to look very doll like. 
Karen


-----Original Message-----
From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
[mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Markus
Kalkbrenner - Maskottchen Germany
Sent: June-09-08 11:59 PM
To: KAREN DOLLMONT
Subject: Re: FL: hair for bobble head mascot.. help

Hi

I usally use Long Fur Floor about 100mm

Try that:

http://www.maskottchen-germany.de/german/referenzmascot/Wollemaus.htm

or other way but looks more Doll like.
Look for thick woolen strings also used for Petroleum Lamps -  thickness
about
5-7mm and cut em in length and glue each one in a textile which you at
last will glue on the head.

Greetings

Atalon

> I am making a bobble head mascot that is supose to look like a doll
> head, the problem is it has long hair down to your waist and needs
> to look like hair. I have tried a wig from a costume shop and put a
> few togeather but they turned into a mess as soon as it was active..
> any advice or know where I can get a fiber wig.. 

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From bdbfox at outgun.com  Tue Jun 10 14:33:03 2008
From: bdbfox at outgun.com (Damian K)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:33:03 -0500
Subject: FL: hair for bobble head mascot.. help
Message-ID: <20080610183303.47F6FCBC5D@ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com>

Have you considered 1/3 inch imitation satin ribbon? It has a good luster and flow to it and should look on model up till the closest inspection.



-Damian

Humanity's Callipygian Paragon

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karen Dollmont" <karen.upfront at shaw.ca>
> To: "'M.Kalkbrenner'" <m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de>, fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: hair for bobble head mascot.. help
> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:02:45 -0600
> 
> 
> Great advice but where do I find each. I like the woollen strings idea as it
> needs to look very doll like.
> Karen
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
> [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Markus
> Kalkbrenner - Maskottchen Germany
> Sent: June-09-08 11:59 PM
> To: KAREN DOLLMONT
> Subject: Re: FL: hair for bobble head mascot.. help
> 
> Hi
> 
> I usally use Long Fur Floor about 100mm
> 
> Try that:
> 
> http://www.maskottchen-germany.de/german/referenzmascot/Wollemaus.htm
> 
> or other way but looks more Doll like.
> Look for thick woolen strings also used for Petroleum Lamps -  thickness
> about
> 5-7mm and cut em in length and glue each one in a textile which you at
> last will glue on the head.
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Atalon
> 
> > I am making a bobble head mascot that is supose to look like a doll
> > head, the problem is it has long hair down to your waist and needs
> > to look like hair. I have tried a wig from a costume shop and put a
> > few togeather but they turned into a mess as soon as it was active..
> > any advice or know where I can get a fiber wig..
> 
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From white-phoenix at hotmail.com  Wed May 28 22:25:57 2008
From: white-phoenix at hotmail.com (J V)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 02:25:57 -0000
Subject: FL: darkstone?
Message-ID: <BLU120-W373166A2CDF7CC466BF015E8BF0@phx.gbl>


Hey all, I was just wondering if anyone knew what had come of Darkstone Realms, the mascot makers.  Their website had been down for ages.  Are they still in business?  Anyone know how to contact them?


thx


WP

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From treacle1690 at aol.co.uk  Sat Jun  7 09:07:38 2008
From: treacle1690 at aol.co.uk (treacle1690 at aol.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:07:38 -0400
Subject: FL: hellow everyone!!!
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Shut up you fucking american muppet


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From: John Arroyo <jpa2blue at yahoo.com>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 6:58
Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!



Foxtails here...sorry for interupting any particular subject but I thought I should tell everybody that I have joined the Furnation website. Also to add, I am currently constructing my own Fursuit...you guessed it...the fox suit...anybody know where I can get discounted long hair fur and claws? I am open to opinions. 



----- Original Message ----
From: Arthur Hamilton <12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 6:52:41 PM
Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!

its a male wolfe!!! i will be slyly fox

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To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:34:32 -0500
Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!

hello can you tell me what animal the suit is if so i will have the monie if
i find you and want it


slyly fox
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From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Wed Jun 18 12:27:56 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:27:56 -0400
Subject: FL: hellow everyone!!!
In-Reply-To: <8CA96B69792C4DE-165C-21DE@FWM-D34.sysops.aol.com>
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err..was that really called for?

On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 9:07 AM, <treacle1690 at aol.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Shut up you fucking american muppet
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Arroyo <jpa2blue at yahoo.com>
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Sent: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 6:58
> Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!
>
>  Foxtails here...sorry for interupting any particular subject but I
> thought I should tell everybody that I have joined the Furnation website.
> Also to add, I am currently constructing my own Fursuit...you guessed
> it...the fox suit...anybody know where I can get discounted long hair fur
> and claws? I am open to opinions.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Arthur Hamilton <12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us>
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 6:52:41 PM
> Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!
>
> its a male wolfe!!! i will be slyly fox
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "adolphus cammack" <winraven at gmail.com>
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:34:32 -0500
> Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!
>
> hello can you tell me what animal the suit is if so i will have the monie
> if
> i find you and want it
>
>
> slyly fox
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From karen.upfront at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 18 12:42:11 2008
From: karen.upfront at shaw.ca (Karen Dollmont)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:42:11 -0600
Subject: FL: darkstone?
In-Reply-To: <BLU120-W373166A2CDF7CC466BF015E8BF0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU120-W373166A2CDF7CC466BF015E8BF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00fa01c8d162$41e7f560$c5b7e020$%upfront@shaw.ca>

No but if you need a mascot company please check us out. UP Front Mascots. 

Karen

 

 

 

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[mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of J V
Sent: May-28-08 8:24 PM
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Subject: FL: darkstone?

 

Hey all, I was just wondering if anyone knew what had come of Darkstone
Realms, the mascot makers.  Their website had been down for ages.  Are they
still in business?  Anyone know how to contact them?


thx


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From karen.upfront at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 18 12:43:38 2008
From: karen.upfront at shaw.ca (Karen Dollmont)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:43:38 -0600
Subject: FL: hair for bobble head mascot.. help
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We are using the ribbon and will take photos when it is down OMG what a lot
of work.. 
Karen



-----Original Message-----
From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
[mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Damian K
Sent: June-10-08 12:33 PM
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Subject: Re: FL: hair for bobble head mascot.. help

Have you considered 1/3 inch imitation satin ribbon? It has a good luster
and flow to it and should look on model up till the closest inspection.



-Damian

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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karen Dollmont" <karen.upfront at shaw.ca>
> To: "'M.Kalkbrenner'" <m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de>,
fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: hair for bobble head mascot.. help
> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:02:45 -0600
> 
> 
> Great advice but where do I find each. I like the woollen strings idea as
it
> needs to look very doll like.
> Karen
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
> [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Markus
> Kalkbrenner - Maskottchen Germany
> Sent: June-09-08 11:59 PM
> To: KAREN DOLLMONT
> Subject: Re: FL: hair for bobble head mascot.. help
> 
> Hi
> 
> I usally use Long Fur Floor about 100mm
> 
> Try that:
> 
> http://www.maskottchen-germany.de/german/referenzmascot/Wollemaus.htm
> 
> or other way but looks more Doll like.
> Look for thick woolen strings also used for Petroleum Lamps -  thickness
> about
> 5-7mm and cut em in length and glue each one in a textile which you at
> last will glue on the head.
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Atalon
> 
> > I am making a bobble head mascot that is supose to look like a doll
> > head, the problem is it has long hair down to your waist and needs
> > to look like hair. I have tried a wig from a costume shop and put a
> > few togeather but they turned into a mess as soon as it was active..
> > any advice or know where I can get a fiber wig..
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From smorizio at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 18 14:45:20 2008
From: smorizio at hotmail.com (steven morizio)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:45:20 -0400
Subject: FL: fur sellers
In-Reply-To: <8CA96B69792C4DE-165C-21DE@FWM-D34.sysops.aol.com>
References: <320034.71913.qm@web35304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<8CA96B69792C4DE-165C-21DE@FWM-D34.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY104-W54CE0180AA732EAEE05D29D9AB0@phx.gbl>


there big4fur in nyc there medels for cheap fur there also i am stuff fur not cheap but has real looking fur.
http://www.imstuffedfur.com/wolfcoyotefurs.html
http://www.fursuit.info/99links2.htm

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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Wed Jun 18 15:08:38 2008
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (fox kinsman)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:08:38 -0400
Subject: FL: fur sellers
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-W54CE0180AA732EAEE05D29D9AB0@phx.gbl>
References: <320034.71913.qm@web35304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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	<BAY104-W54CE0180AA732EAEE05D29D9AB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <06392ED9-62F6-4763-AD67-5764B7CFE704@flyingfox.biz>

imstuffed furs rock!  Mendel's is good too

Distinctive Fabrics is another i bought fur at

Scape





On Jun 18, 2008, at 2:45 PM, steven morizio wrote:

there big4fur in nyc there medels for cheap fur there also i am stuff  
fur not cheap but has real looking fur.
http://www.imstuffedfur.com/wolfcoyotefurs.html
http://www.fursuit.info/99links2.htm

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From tsukasa06 at msn.com  Wed Jun 18 22:25:16 2008
From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:25:16 -0600
Subject: FL: darkstone?
In-Reply-To: <BLU120-W373166A2CDF7CC466BF015E8BF0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU120-W373166A2CDF7CC466BF015E8BF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY101-W535CE9A27E138E4D3C1076A9AA0@phx.gbl>


last I heard that they are still in business but closed their site to catch up on comissions, bad business move if you ask me


From: white-phoenix at hotmail.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgDate: Wed, 28 May 2008 22:23:45 -0400Subject: FL: darkstone?


Hey all, I was just wondering if anyone knew what had come of Darkstone Realms, the mascot makers.  Their website had been down for ages.  Are they still in business?  Anyone know how to contact them?thxWP

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From obsidimus at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 01:58:16 2008
From: obsidimus at gmail.com (Leslie Smith)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:58:16 -0700
Subject: FL: fur sellers
In-Reply-To: <06392ED9-62F6-4763-AD67-5764B7CFE704@flyingfox.biz>
References: <320034.71913.qm@web35304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Hey there all, I though I would just add my two cents to the fur sellers.
But i found this site to be wonderful myself!. I haven't odered what I need
yet, since i'm still planning. But the prices look fairly good to me...if
not please ignore!

http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/?gclid=CPjt8rvfqI8CFRFSagodWlt5Rw
-igenfox @livejournal

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 12:08 PM, fox kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:

> imstuffed furs rock!  Mendel's is good too
> Distinctive Fabrics is another i bought fur at
>
> Scape
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 18, 2008, at 2:45 PM, steven morizio wrote:
>
> there big4fur in nyc there medels for cheap fur there also i am stuff fur
> not cheap but has real looking fur.
> http://www.imstuffedfur.com/wolfcoyotefurs.html
> http://www.fursuit.info/99links2.htm
>
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From m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de  Thu Jun 19 03:29:27 2008
From: m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de (Markus Kalkbrenner - Maskottchen Germany)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:29:27 +0200
Subject: FL: darkstone?
In-Reply-To: <BAY101-W535CE9A27E138E4D3C1076A9AA0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU120-W373166A2CDF7CC466BF015E8BF0@phx.gbl>
	<BAY101-W535CE9A27E138E4D3C1076A9AA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1887900558.20080619092927@maskottchen-germany.de>

Hi

Looks they still do, unfortuneatly even my direct contact mail addy
because i did business with em ins sort of mascot sales does not work.
So to get in touch is a problem unless you live nearby.

The point that they do old works to pressent looks true because i got
recently a costume i ordered a couple of months (8) ago.

Atalon

www.anthrocreations.com


> last I heard that they are still in business but closed their site
> to catch up on comissions, bad business move if you ask me


> From: white-phoenix at hotmail.comTo:
> fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgDate: Wed, 28 May 2008 22:23:45 -0400Subject: FL: darkstone?


> Hey all, I was just wondering if anyone knew what had come of
> Darkstone Realms, the mascot makers.  Their website had been down
> for ages.  Are they still in business?  Anyone know how to contact them?thxWP

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From m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de  Thu Jun 19 03:31:40 2008
From: m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de (Markus Kalkbrenner - Maskottchen Germany)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:31:40 +0200
Subject: FL: fur sellers
In-Reply-To: <06392ED9-62F6-4763-AD67-5764B7CFE704@flyingfox.biz>
References: <320034.71913.qm@web35304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<8CA96B69792C4DE-165C-21DE@FWM-D34.sysops.aol.com>
	<BAY104-W54CE0180AA732EAEE05D29D9AB0@phx.gbl>
	<06392ED9-62F6-4763-AD67-5764B7CFE704@flyingfox.biz>
Message-ID: <1471791893.20080619093140@maskottchen-germany.de>

In Europe look for

www.stoffelle.de

I get my fur from there and they offer various colors and top quality
form european artifical fur makers.
But its not that cheap as in the USA. But the quality is brillant.

Atalon

Fursuit Maker and Maskot Maker

www.anthrocreations.com

www.maskottchen-germany.de

> imstuffed furs rock!  Mendel's is good too

> Distinctive Fabrics is another i bought fur at

> Scape





> On Jun 18, 2008, at 2:45 PM, steven morizio wrote:

> there big4fur in nyc there medels for cheap fur there also i am stuff
> fur not cheap but has real looking fur.
> http://www.imstuffedfur.com/wolfcoyotefurs.html
> http://www.fursuit.info/99links2.htm

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From minnieme4rl at aol.com  Thu Jun 19 22:14:57 2008
From: minnieme4rl at aol.com (Kristen Kim)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:14:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: FL: Kristen  sent you a friend request on Tagged :)
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From: minnieme4rl at aol.com (Kristen Kim)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:14:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: FL: Kristen  sent you a friend request on Tagged :)
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From 12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us  Mon Jun 23 17:46:36 2008
From: 12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us (Arthur Hamilton)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:46:36 -0600
Subject: FL: hellow everyone!!!
Message-ID: <1214257596.94f300a012AHAMILTON1@Davis.k12.ut.us>

um...i 'm trying to sell a suit, and everyone is really getting off subject!!!i would appreciate if everyone stopped chating, and start there own conversation on a different e-mail!!!!please!!!!

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From: "TashuMitsu Dracosana" <tashumitsu at gmail.com>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:27:56 -0400
Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!

err..was that really called for?

On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 9:07 AM, <treacle1690 at aol.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Shut up you fucking american muppet
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Arroyo <jpa2blue at yahoo.com>
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Sent: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 6:58
> Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!
>
>  Foxtails here...sorry for interupting any particular subject but I
> thought I should tell everybody that I have joined the Furnation website.
> Also to add, I am currently constructing my own Fursuit...you guessed
> it...the fox suit...anybody know where I can get discounted long hair fur
> and claws? I am open to opinions.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Arthur Hamilton <12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us>
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 6:52:41 PM
> Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!
>
> its a male wolfe!!! i will be slyly fox
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "adolphus cammack" <winraven at gmail.com>
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:34:32 -0500
> Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!
>
> hello can you tell me what animal the suit is if so i will have the monie
> if
> i find you and want it
>
>
> slyly fox
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From schneidsky at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 23 18:52:59 2008
From: schneidsky at yahoo.com (Adam Schneider)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:52:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: hellow everyone!!!
In-Reply-To: <1214257596.94f300a012AHAMILTON1@Davis.k12.ut.us>
Message-ID: <836412.52749.qm@web54002.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Arthur,
What size person was the suit made for?? Do you have any pictures of it?

Regards,
Duke :3

--- On Mon, 6/23/08, Arthur Hamilton <12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us> wrote:
From: Arthur Hamilton <12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us>
Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Date: Monday, June 23, 2008, 4:46 PM

um...i 'm trying to sell a suit, and everyone is really getting off
subject!!!i would appreciate if everyone stopped chating, and start there own
conversation on a different e-mail!!!!please!!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: "TashuMitsu Dracosana" <tashumitsu at gmail.com>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:27:56 -0400
Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!

err..was that really called for?

On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 9:07 AM, <treacle1690 at aol.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Shut up you fucking american muppet
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Arroyo <jpa2blue at yahoo.com>
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Sent: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 6:58
> Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!
>
>  Foxtails here...sorry for interupting any particular subject but I
> thought I should tell everybody that I have joined the Furnation website.
> Also to add, I am currently constructing my own Fursuit...you guessed
> it...the fox suit...anybody know where I can get discounted long hair fur
> and claws? I am open to opinions.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Arthur Hamilton <12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us>
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 6:52:41 PM
> Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!
>
> its a male wolfe!!! i will be slyly fox
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "adolphus cammack" <winraven at gmail.com>
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:34:32 -0500
> Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!
>
> hello can you tell me what animal the suit is if so i will have the monie
> if
> i find you and want it
>
>
> slyly fox
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From furrycouple at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 23 21:59:16 2008
From: furrycouple at hotmail.com (Johara Saluki)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:59:16 -0600
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
Message-ID: <COL101-W78C4F008E1F302A61487A4A5A10@phx.gbl>


Hi all, you don't know me very well, but I have been watching this list for some time to keep tabs on furry events that I hope one day I'll get the opportunity to attend. Well, especially now that my new fursuit is completed. If anyone is interested it can be viewed at;
www.joharasaluki.deviantart.com 
All comments are welcome and appreciated. 
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Mon Jun 23 22:23:14 2008
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (John Fox Kinsman)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:23:14 -0400
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <COL101-W78C4F008E1F302A61487A4A5A10@phx.gbl>
References: <COL101-W78C4F008E1F302A61487A4A5A10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <597D2961-830E-4540-8CB6-A1B4116F2C39@flyingfox.biz>

holy frikkin' A!

A is definitely for awesome ;)
Congrats!

Scape


Fox =^_^=
John Fox Kinsman
fox at flyingfox.biz




On Jun 23, 2008, at 9:59 PM, Johara Saluki wrote:

Hi all, you don't know me very well, but I have been watching this  
list for some time to keep tabs on furry events that I hope one day  
I'll get the opportunity to attend. Well, especially now that my new  
fursuit is completed. If anyone is interested it can be viewed at;
www.joharasaluki.deviantart.com
All comments are welcome and appreciated.

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From antimon at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 23 22:32:03 2008
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:32:03 -0400
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <COL101-W78C4F008E1F302A61487A4A5A10@phx.gbl>
References: <COL101-W78C4F008E1F302A61487A4A5A10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <96B2329EE51845AEBAB4C52975B522ED@AntimonPC>

wow that looks really good and unique, very cute and lovely the outfit relaly sells the concept.  adorable
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Johara Saluki 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:59 PM
  Subject: FL: New Fursuit


  Hi all, you don't know me very well, but I have been watching this list for some time to keep tabs on furry events that I hope one day I'll get the opportunity to attend. Well, especially now that my new fursuit is completed. If anyone is interested it can be viewed at;
  www.joharasaluki.deviantart.com 
  All comments are welcome and appreciated. 


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From jpa2blue at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 24 03:48:53 2008
From: jpa2blue at yahoo.com (John Arroyo)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:48:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: hellow everyone!!!
Message-ID: <429046.32944.qm@web35303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Foxtails again...
American Muppet? Er...should I be insulted? What the hell is this guys problem? He must not be getting any. As to Mr. Hamilton, what kind of suit are you selling? I am still working on my suit, but I am also interested in buying a one. Please tell me its a canine of some sort. I am interested in Wolves, Foxes, and Dogs....suits that is .


----- Original Message ----
From: Arthur Hamilton <12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 2:46:36 PM
Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!

um...i 'm trying to sell a suit, and everyone is really getting off subject!!!i would appreciate if everyone stopped chating, and start there own conversation on a different e-mail!!!!please!!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: "TashuMitsu Dracosana" <tashumitsu at gmail.com>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:27:56 -0400
Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!

err..was that really called for?

On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 9:07 AM, <treacle1690 at aol.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Shut up you fucking american muppet
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Arroyo <jpa2blue at yahoo.com>
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Sent: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 6:58
> Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!
>
>? Foxtails here...sorry for interupting any particular subject but I
> thought I should tell everybody that I have joined the Furnation website.
> Also to add, I am currently constructing my own Fursuit...you guessed
> it...the fox suit...anybody know where I can get discounted long hair fur
> and claws? I am open to opinions.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Arthur Hamilton <12AHAMILTON1 at Davis.k12.ut.us>
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 6:52:41 PM
> Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!
>
> its a male wolfe!!! i will be slyly fox
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "adolphus cammack" <winraven at gmail.com>
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:34:32 -0500
> Subject: Re: FL: hellow everyone!!!
>
> hello can you tell me what animal the suit is if so i will have the monie
> if
> i find you and want it
>
>
> slyly fox
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From yappyfox at thefoxden.com  Tue Jun 24 09:19:20 2008
From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (Yappy Sly Fox)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:19:20 -0400
Subject: FL: [rockmosher@gmail.com: *NEW* Musician Mascot looking to get
	into performing and constructing]
Message-ID: <20080624131920.GA15656@penfold.furryhost.com>



Forwarding this on...


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From schneidsky at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 24 09:40:33 2008
From: schneidsky at yahoo.com (Adam Schneider)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:40:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <COL101-W78C4F008E1F302A61487A4A5A10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <909137.44165.qm@web54001.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Looks great, Jo!? I'll bet it took a lot of hard work.? I've been a member of this list for some time, and?I'm?currently brainstorming on how to construct my first suit.? Would you tell us a little more about the head construction plz?
?
-Duke :3

--- On Mon, 6/23/08, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
To: "fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org" <fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
Date: Monday, June 23, 2008, 8:59 PM




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Hi all, you don't know me very well, but I have been watching this list for some time to keep tabs on furry events that I hope one day I'll get the opportunity to attend. Well, especially now that my new fursuit is completed. If anyone is interested it can be viewed at;
www.joharasaluki.deviantart.com 
All comments are welcome and appreciated. 



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From dia at critter.net  Tue Jun 24 12:47:39 2008
From: dia at critter.net (dia at critter.net)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:47:39 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <mailman.351.1214293978.1522.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
References: <mailman.351.1214293978.1522.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <14437.67.155.111.199.1214326059.squirrel@secure.critter.net>

WOW!   That is awesome!
I am sure the group on http://community.livejournal.com/fursuit/profile
would LOVE you! The community called "Fursuit" is on there to show that
gorgeous costume off!

-J

Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:59:16 -0600
From: Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
Subject: FL: New Fursuit


Hi all, you don't know me very well, but I have been watching this list
for some
time to keep tabs on furry events that I hope one day I'll get the
opportunity to
attend. Well, especially now that my new fursuit is completed. If anyone is
interested it can be viewed at;
www.joharasaluki.deviantart.com
All comments are welcome and appreciated.



From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Tue Jun 24 14:24:17 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:24:17 -0400
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <14437.67.155.111.199.1214326059.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
References: <mailman.351.1214293978.1522.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<14437.67.155.111.199.1214326059.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
Message-ID: <4165e4980806241124v28402backeaa3e1a7d3418203@mail.gmail.com>

wowa I know its sweet! I wish I could make mine just as well lol, mine
look...weird -.-

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:47 PM, <dia at critter.net> wrote:

> WOW!   That is awesome!
> I am sure the group on http://community.livejournal.com/fursuit/profile
> would LOVE you! The community called "Fursuit" is on there to show that
> gorgeous costume off!
>
> -J
>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:59:16 -0600
> From: Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
> Subject: FL: New Fursuit
>
>
> Hi all, you don't know me very well, but I have been watching this list
> for some
> time to keep tabs on furry events that I hope one day I'll get the
> opportunity to
> attend. Well, especially now that my new fursuit is completed. If anyone is
> interested it can be viewed at;
> www.joharasaluki.deviantart.com
> All comments are welcome and appreciated.
>
>
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From karen.upfront at shaw.ca  Tue Jun 24 14:40:39 2008
From: karen.upfront at shaw.ca (Karen Dollmont)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:40:39 -0600
Subject: FL: my new web site
In-Reply-To: <4165e4980806241124v28402backeaa3e1a7d3418203@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.351.1214293978.1522.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<14437.67.155.111.199.1214326059.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
	<4165e4980806241124v28402backeaa3e1a7d3418203@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000601c8d629$cc968980$65c39c80$%upfront@shaw.ca>

 Hi everyone I have a new web site up and running www.custommascot.com   if
you or anyone you know wants to do sales please let me know..
karen.upfront at shaw.ca  thanks Karen

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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Tue Jun 24 20:51:00 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:51:00 -0700
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <COL101-W78C4F008E1F302A61487A4A5A10@phx.gbl>
References: <COL101-W78C4F008E1F302A61487A4A5A10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0806241751q458aac76j919b9313e612dd9f@mail.gmail.com>

That's a good ostrich fursuit! Just kidding. Its a great dog. What I like
about it the best is its a realest fursuit. You don't see so many of them
around.

Donkey

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
wrote:

>  Hi all, you don't know me very well, but I have been watching this list
> for some time to keep tabs on furry events that I hope one day I'll get the
> opportunity to attend. Well, especially now that my new fursuit is
> completed. If anyone is interested it can be viewed at;
> www.joharasaluki.deviantart.com
> All comments are welcome and appreciated.
>
> ------------------------------
>
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Tue Jun 24 21:00:02 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:00:02 -0700
Subject: FL: [rockmosher@gmail.com: *NEW* Musician Mascot looking to get
	into performing and constructing]
In-Reply-To: <20080624131920.GA15656@penfold.furryhost.com>
References: <20080624131920.GA15656@penfold.furryhost.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0806241800u6a3f1084rb16d33c919e7e193@mail.gmail.com>

For the St Louis Mo furs go to ArchRegionalFurries at yahoogroups.com

Just tell them that you know Donkey and watch the fur fly. Well.. Not
really. They don't know me that well... Yet.

Now everyone bow down and worship me!
His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:19 AM, Yappy Sly Fox <yappyfox at thefoxden.com>
wrote:

>
>
> Forwarding this on...
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Rocky Monster" <rockmosher at gmail.com>
> To: fursuit at fursuit.org
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:56:57 -0500
> Subject: *NEW* Musician Mascot looking to get into performing and
> constructing
> Hey, I've got an idea to be a mascot for local rock band promotions here in
> St. Louis under the moniker "The RockNess Monster" and I have a bunch of
> half inch foam and felt that I attached to a pair of jeans and a hoody, but
> it got destroyed when I put it through some torture tests. I was wondering
> if I could get some help:
>
> 1. Do you know of any furries or furry group in St. Louis that I could get
> into contact with for help in designing and building my mascot costume?
> 2. Is there a special kind of construction that is able to take high impact
> torture such as you would find in a mosh pit or doing stunts? (my current
> design puts little/no foam in the joints to allow me to slip on
> skateboarding knee and elbow pads) If so, what do you do about ventilation
> in a hot and/or crowded environment?
> 3. Should I create two suits: one for outdoors stunts, thicker and able to
> take falls, rolls, and impact; while using a lighter, less hot suit for
> stage, club, and rock gigs?
>
> Thanks for your time, I know its valuable. I've been working on this
> project for years, and I just put two and two together that furries would be
> the foremost experts on building, maintaining, and performing in a suit. Its
> an open face suit, where my face comes out of the dinosaur's mouth, here are
> some pictures for reference:
>
> note the rigid lower jaw. With the top of the costume head fitted around
> the crown of my own, when I headbang, it brings the two jaws together in a
> "chomping" motion. I especially like that part of the design.
>
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Tue Jun 24 21:03:54 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:03:54 -0700
Subject: FL: [rockmosher@gmail.com: *NEW* Musician Mascot looking to get
	into performing and constructing]
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0806241800u6a3f1084rb16d33c919e7e193@mail.gmail.com>
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Oops! That was the e-male address. You want to use this link
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ArchRegionalFurries/

Bad Donkey!

Your still to bow down and worship me!
His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:

> For the St Louis Mo furs go to ArchRegionalFurries at yahoogroups.com
>
> Just tell them that you know Donkey and watch the fur fly. Well.. Not
> really. They don't know me that well... Yet.
>
> Now everyone bow down and worship me!
> His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:19 AM, Yappy Sly Fox <yappyfox at thefoxden.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Forwarding this on...
>>
>>
>> --
>>
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>>  \  /\   / ..__.   The Yappy Sly Fox ^..^  (vulpes yappaloticus)
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>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Rocky Monster" <rockmosher at gmail.com>
>> To: fursuit at fursuit.org
>> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:56:57 -0500
>> Subject: *NEW* Musician Mascot looking to get into performing and
>> constructing
>> Hey, I've got an idea to be a mascot for local rock band promotions here
>> in St. Louis under the moniker "The RockNess Monster" and I have a bunch of
>> half inch foam and felt that I attached to a pair of jeans and a hoody, but
>> it got destroyed when I put it through some torture tests. I was wondering
>> if I could get some help:
>>
>> 1. Do you know of any furries or furry group in St. Louis that I could get
>> into contact with for help in designing and building my mascot costume?
>> 2. Is there a special kind of construction that is able to take high
>> impact torture such as you would find in a mosh pit or doing stunts? (my
>> current design puts little/no foam in the joints to allow me to slip on
>> skateboarding knee and elbow pads) If so, what do you do about ventilation
>> in a hot and/or crowded environment?
>> 3. Should I create two suits: one for outdoors stunts, thicker and able to
>> take falls, rolls, and impact; while using a lighter, less hot suit for
>> stage, club, and rock gigs?
>>
>> Thanks for your time, I know its valuable. I've been working on this
>> project for years, and I just put two and two together that furries would be
>> the foremost experts on building, maintaining, and performing in a suit. Its
>> an open face suit, where my face comes out of the dinosaur's mouth, here are
>> some pictures for reference:
>>
>> note the rigid lower jaw. With the top of the costume head fitted around
>> the crown of my own, when I headbang, it brings the two jaws together in a
>> "chomping" motion. I especially like that part of the design.
>>
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From furrycouple at hotmail.com  Tue Jun 24 22:07:43 2008
From: furrycouple at hotmail.com (Johara Saluki)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:07:43 -0600
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0806241751q458aac76j919b9313e612dd9f@mail.gmail.com>
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Hehe....Ostrich...good one! Thanks for the comment. I'm not much of a fan of the toony suits. I do admire the creativity that goes into some of them, but my suit is a reflection of my spiritual self. I'll be choked if anyone copies it. 


Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:51:00 -0700From: donkeyears at gmail.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: New FursuitThat's a good ostrich fursuit! Just kidding. Its a great dog. What I like about it the best is its a realest fursuit. You don't see so many of them around.Donkey
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi all, you don't know me very well, but I have been watching this list for some time to keep tabs on furry events that I hope one day I'll get the opportunity to attend. Well, especially now that my new fursuit is completed. If anyone is interested it can be viewed at;www.joharasaluki.deviantart.com All comments are welcome and appreciated. 

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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Tue Jun 24 23:51:09 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:51:09 -0700
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
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Oops! I just sent your photos to a costume manufacture so it can be mass
built.


His Most Royal Highass, Donkey



Note to self. Tell costume manufacture not to publicly give me credit for
the dog costume design so Johara wont know it was me.

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
wrote:

>  Hehe....Ostrich...good one! Thanks for the comment. I'm not much of a fan
> of the toony suits. I do admire the creativity that goes into some of them,
> but my suit is a reflection of my spiritual self. I'll be choked if anyone
> copies it.
>
>  ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:51:00 -0700
> From: donkeyears at gmail.com
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit
>
>
> That's a good ostrich fursuit! Just kidding. Its a great dog. What I like
> about it the best is its a realest fursuit. You don't see so many of them
> around.
>
> Donkey
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all, you don't know me very well, but I have been watching this list for
> some time to keep tabs on furry events that I hope one day I'll get the
> opportunity to attend. Well, especially now that my new fursuit is
> completed. If anyone is interested it can be viewed at;
> www.joharasaluki.deviantart.com
> All comments are welcome and appreciated.
>
> ------------------------------
>
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Wed Jun 25 00:29:48 2008
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (John Fox Kinsman)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:29:48 -0400
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
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Where might Johara debut?
I wish you could perform with us at the gallery crawl in winston  
salem, nc -there are quite a few belly dancers who entertain at the  
drum circles too -they would absolutely go gaga over you!  hahah they  
even dressed wallywolf up a bit and made him shake his stuff ;)

Scape



On Jun 24, 2008, at 10:07 PM, Johara Saluki wrote:

Hehe....Ostrich...good one! Thanks for the comment. I'm not much of a  
fan of the toony suits. I do admire the creativity that goes into  
some of them, but my suit is a reflection of my spiritual self. I'll  
be choked if anyone copies it.

Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:51:00 -0700
From: donkeyears at gmail.com
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit

That's a good ostrich fursuit! Just kidding. Its a great dog. What I  
like about it the best is its a realest fursuit. You don't see so  
many of them around.

Donkey

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Johara Saluki  
<furrycouple at hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi all, you don't know me very well, but I have been watching this  
list for some time to keep tabs on furry events that I hope one day  
I'll get the opportunity to attend. Well, especially now that my new  
fursuit is completed. If anyone is interested it can be viewed at;
www.joharasaluki.deviantart.com
All comments are welcome and appreciated.


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From bob at ginkosoft.com  Wed Jun 25 00:34:03 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:34:03 -0700
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
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Dear Mr. Donkey;

We received your packet of photos here at Bud Tugly Costumes, Inc, and 
we must say we are quite impressed. Unfortunately, we are unable to 
start mass production on it quite yet. The craftsmanship is quite 
high-quality, and we would not be able to recreate it. Furthermore, for 
our standards, it must go through a review, and frankly, it looks 
unlikely to meet our requirements. First, there is not much call for 
ostrich costumes, except for the partial design in which it looks like 
you're riding the bird. Because of this, it would be difficult to sell 
it to our primary rental shop clients. If you could produce a design 
more in line with their format, the approval would be more likely. 
Perhaps you can consider something that resembles a cross between Donald 
Duck and Goofy?

Sincerely,
Bud Tugly
CEO and President
Bud Tugly Costumes, Inc.





Seriously, though, very awesome, Johara. I lean towards toony designs 
myself, but your costume roxxors.

From donkeyears at gmail.com  Wed Jun 25 22:04:54 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:04:54 -0700
Subject: FL: Arms race
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0806251904m25234a56w2f6155a4c245356a@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xtE0__8a9Q

Us hooves need to keep ahead of the carnivores in the arms race.  Does
anyone know where I can get some hoof to paws missiles?

Donkey

Warning anti bleeding heart liberal video.
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From furrycouple at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 26 07:05:17 2008
From: furrycouple at hotmail.com (Johara Saluki)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 05:05:17 -0600
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
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I honestly don't know at this point. I work in construction (odd mix huh?) and it's hard to get time off in the summer. At the moment, I have my eyes set on rainfurrest or FC. Additionally, I'm looking into indo jazz dance classes in hopes of putting on a performance at either one. Your gallery crawl sounds like a hoot...this city is so lame, we don't have anything nearly that adventurous. 


From: fox at flyingfox.bizDate: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:29:48 -0400To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: New FursuitWhere might Johara debut?   
I wish you could perform with us at the gallery crawl in winston salem, nc -there are quite a few belly dancers who entertain at the drum circles too -they would absolutely go gaga over you!  hahah they even dressed wallywolf up a bit and made him shake his stuff ;)

Scape



On Jun 24, 2008, at 10:07 PM, Johara Saluki wrote:Hehe....Ostrich...good one! Thanks for the comment. I'm not much of a fan of the toony suits. I do admire the creativity that goes into some of them, but my suit is a reflection of my spiritual self. I'll be choked if anyone copies it. 


Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:51:00 -0700From: donkeyears at gmail.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: New FursuitThat's a good ostrich fursuit! Just kidding. Its a great dog. What I like about it the best is its a realest fursuit. You don't see so many of them around.Donkey
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi all, you don't know me very well, but I have been watching this list for some time to keep tabs on furry events that I hope one day I'll get the opportunity to attend. Well, especially now that my new fursuit is completed. If anyone is interested it can be viewed at;www.joharasaluki.deviantart.com All comments are welcome and appreciated. 

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From tim.j.bass at gmail.com  Thu Jun 26 07:27:13 2008
From: tim.j.bass at gmail.com (Tim Bass)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:27:13 +1000
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <COL101-W44235E4558E84B3076B0A4A5A30@phx.gbl>
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DEAR GOD DO YOU FURRIES EVER SHUT THE FUCK UP

YAK YAK YAK GET A JOB!

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
wrote:

>  I honestly don't know at this point. I work in construction (odd mix huh?)
> and it's hard to get time off in the summer. At the moment, I have my eyes
> set on rainfurrest or FC. Additionally, I'm looking into indo jazz dance
> classes in hopes of putting on a performance at either one. Your gallery
> crawl sounds like a hoot...this city is so lame, we don't have anything
> nearly that adventurous.
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> From: fox at flyingfox.biz
> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:29:48 -0400
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit
>
> Where might Johara debut?   I wish you could perform with us at the
> gallery crawl in winston salem, nc -there are quite a few belly dancers who
> entertain at the drum circles too -they would absolutely go gaga over you!
>  hahah they even dressed wallywolf up a bit and made him shake his stuff ;)
>
> Scape
>
>
>
>  On Jun 24, 2008, at 10:07 PM, Johara Saluki wrote:
>
> Hehe....Ostrich...good one! Thanks for the comment. I'm not much of a fan
> of the toony suits. I do admire the creativity that goes into some of them,
> but my suit is a reflection of my spiritual self. I'll be choked if anyone
> copies it.
>
>  ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:51:00 -0700
> From: donkeyears at gmail.com
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit
>
> That's a good ostrich fursuit! Just kidding. Its a great dog. What I like
> about it the best is its a realest fursuit. You don't see so many of them
> around.
>
> Donkey
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all, you don't know me very well, but I have been watching this list for
> some time to keep tabs on furry events that I hope one day I'll get the
> opportunity to attend. Well, especially now that my new fursuit is
> completed. If anyone is interested it can be viewed at;
> www.joharasaluki.deviantart.com
> All comments are welcome and appreciated.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Thu Jun 26 08:44:29 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 05:44:29 -0700
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <f3fa46aa0806260427n77e497aai91bad9e4ff771b58@mail.gmail.com>
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Most of the furries that are on list have jobs. How else do you think we can
afford are fursuits.

By the way I am not a yak I am an ass. But the idea of a yak fursuit is a
nice idea. There are not that many yak fursuits if any.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:27 AM, Tim Bass <tim.j.bass at gmail.com> wrote:

> DEAR GOD DO YOU FURRIES EVER SHUT THE FUCK UP
>
> YAK YAK YAK GET A JOB!
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>  I honestly don't know at this point. I work in construction (odd mix
>> huh?) and it's hard to get time off in the summer. At the moment, I have my
>> eyes set on rainfurrest or FC. Additionally, I'm looking into indo jazz
>> dance classes in hopes of putting on a performance at either one. Your
>> gallery crawl sounds like a hoot...this city is so lame, we don't have
>> anything nearly that adventurous.
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> From: fox at flyingfox.biz
>> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:29:48 -0400
>> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>> Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit
>>
>> Where might Johara debut?   I wish you could perform with us at the
>> gallery crawl in winston salem, nc -there are quite a few belly dancers who
>> entertain at the drum circles too -they would absolutely go gaga over you!
>>  hahah they even dressed wallywolf up a bit and made him shake his stuff ;)
>>
>> Scape
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Jun 24, 2008, at 10:07 PM, Johara Saluki wrote:
>>
>> Hehe....Ostrich...good one! Thanks for the comment. I'm not much of a fan
>> of the toony suits. I do admire the creativity that goes into some of them,
>> but my suit is a reflection of my spiritual self. I'll be choked if anyone
>> copies it.
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:51:00 -0700
>> From: donkeyears at gmail.com
>> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>> Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit
>>
>> That's a good ostrich fursuit! Just kidding. Its a great dog. What I like
>> about it the best is its a realest fursuit. You don't see so many of them
>> around.
>>
>> Donkey
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, you don't know me very well, but I have been watching this list
>> for some time to keep tabs on furry events that I hope one day I'll get the
>> opportunity to attend. Well, especially now that my new fursuit is
>> completed. If anyone is interested it can be viewed at;
>> www.joharasaluki.deviantart.com
>> All comments are welcome and appreciated.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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From antimon at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 26 09:17:43 2008
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 09:17:43 -0400
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
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I know of atleast one Yak....:) made by Noble
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Donkey 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:44 AM
  Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit


  Most of the furries that are on list have jobs. How else do you think we can afford are fursuits.

  By the way I am not a yak I am an ass. But the idea of a yak fursuit is a nice idea. There are not that many yak fursuits if any.

  His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
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From furrycouple at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 26 21:31:54 2008
From: furrycouple at hotmail.com (Johara Saluki)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:31:54 -0600
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
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I work 60 - 70 hours per week...I have more job than most people and, at times, more than I would like. Being a yakky furry is about the only break I get....and when I'm not yakking, I get suited up and get yiffed by the neighbors dog (no other furries in the area). 
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.....(hehe...that was actually kinda funny)


Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:27:13 +1000From: tim.j.bass at gmail.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: New FursuitDEAR GOD DO YOU FURRIES EVER SHUT THE FUCK UPYAK YAK YAK GET A JOB!
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com> wrote:

I honestly don't know at this point. I work in construction (odd mix huh?) and it's hard to get time off in the summer. At the moment, I have my eyes set on rainfurrest or FC. Additionally, I'm looking into indo jazz dance classes in hopes of putting on a performance at either one. Your gallery crawl sounds like a hoot...this city is so lame, we don't have anything nearly that adventurous. 


From: fox at flyingfox.bizDate: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:29:48 -0400 
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: New FursuitWhere might Johara debut?   
I wish you could perform with us at the gallery crawl in winston salem, nc -there are quite a few belly dancers who entertain at the drum circles too -they would absolutely go gaga over you!  hahah they even dressed wallywolf up a bit and made him shake his stuff ;)

Scape



On Jun 24, 2008, at 10:07 PM, Johara Saluki wrote:Hehe....Ostrich...good one! Thanks for the comment. I'm not much of a fan of the toony suits. I do admire the creativity that goes into some of them, but my suit is a reflection of my spiritual self. I'll be choked if anyone copies it. 


Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:51:00 -0700From: donkeyears at gmail.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: New FursuitThat's a good ostrich fursuit! Just kidding. Its a great dog. What I like about it the best is its a realest fursuit. You don't see so many of them around.Donkey
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi all, you don't know me very well, but I have been watching this list for some time to keep tabs on furry events that I hope one day I'll get the opportunity to attend. Well, especially now that my new fursuit is completed. If anyone is interested it can be viewed at;www.joharasaluki.deviantart.com All comments are welcome and appreciated. 

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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Thu Jun 26 22:14:39 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:14:39 -0700
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <COL101-W64EAD1A83F18E040559FE7A5A20@phx.gbl>
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Try being a trucker! I wish that I could drive 70 hours a week. Heck I wish
that I could drive more than 70 hours a week. The more I drive the more I
make. Also I am in the truck 7/24 so I might as well be driving. I have
nothing else to do.

Donkey

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
wrote:

>  I work 60 - 70 hours per week...I have more job than most people and, at
> times, more than I would like. Being a yakky furry is about the only break I
> get....and when I'm not yakking, I get suited up and get yiffed by the
> neighbors dog (no other furries in the area).
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .....(hehe...that was actually kinda funny)
>
>
>
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From furrycouple at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 27 21:09:22 2008
From: furrycouple at hotmail.com (Johara Saluki)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:09:22 -0600
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0806261914v37ed49c2kd2c21298e2afc4f@mail.gmail.com>
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A furry trucker....a furry equipment operator (me)....I wonder how many of us work in these fields. Most that I know are computer nerds, I don't know any who are in construction. 


Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:14:39 -0700From: donkeyears at gmail.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: New FursuitTry being a trucker! I wish that I could drive 70 hours a week. Heck I wish that I could drive more than 70 hours a week. The more I drive the more I make. Also I am in the truck 7/24 so I might as well be driving. I have nothing else to do.Donkey
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com> wrote:

I work 60 - 70 hours per week...I have more job than most people and, at times, more than I would like. Being a yakky furry is about the only break I get....and when I'm not yakking, I get suited up and get yiffed by the neighbors dog (no other furries in the area). .........(hehe...that was actually kinda funny)
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Fri Jun 27 21:25:19 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:25:19 -0700
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <COL101-W7401DDC7B3D5ECA3585152A59D0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL101-W78C4F008E1F302A61487A4A5A10@phx.gbl>
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Most of the furs that I know are nerds or do min wage jobs. But I do know
one that is an engineer.

There are a couple of us furs that are truckers

Donkey

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
wrote:

>  A furry trucker....a furry equipment operator (me)....I wonder how many of
> us work in these fields. Most that I know are computer nerds, I don't know
> any who are in construction.
>
>  ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:14:39 -0700
> From: donkeyears at gmail.com
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit
>
> Try being a trucker! I wish that I could drive 70 hours a week. Heck I wish
> that I could drive more than 70 hours a week. The more I drive the more I
> make. Also I am in the truck 7/24 so I might as well be driving. I have
> nothing else to do.
>
> Donkey
>
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I work 60 - 70 hours per week...I have more job than most people and, at
> times, more than I would like. Being a yakky furry is about the only break I
> get....and when I'm not yakking, I get suited up and get yiffed by the
> neighbors dog (no other furries in the area).
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .....(hehe...that was actually kinda funny)
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
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From synthwolf at gmail.com  Fri Jun 27 22:20:45 2008
From: synthwolf at gmail.com (Jon Lee)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:20:45 -0500
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
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A friend of mine in Seattle is in construction... just sayin' =P

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> A furry trucker....a furry equipment operator (me)....I wonder how many of
> us work in these fields. Most that I know are computer nerds, I don't know
> any who are in construction.
>
>  ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:14:39 -0700
> From: donkeyears at gmail.com
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit
>
>  Try being a trucker! I wish that I could drive 70 hours a week. Heck I
> wish that I could drive more than 70 hours a week. The more I drive the more
> I make. Also I am in the truck 7/24 so I might as well be driving. I have
> nothing else to do.
>
> Donkey
>
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I work 60 - 70 hours per week...I have more job than most people and, at
> times, more than I would like. Being a yakky furry is about the only break I
> get....and when I'm not yakking, I get suited up and get yiffed by the
> neighbors dog (no other furries in the area).
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .....(hehe...that was actually kinda funny)
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
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From wildfox34 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 27 22:24:47 2008
From: wildfox34 at gmail.com (Mike Johnson)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:24:47 -0400
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <COL101-W7401DDC7B3D5ECA3585152A59D0@phx.gbl>
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I work in manufacturing myself. :)

Wildfox
http://www.chameleon.net/~wildfox/index.htm

On 6/27/08, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com> wrote:
> A furry trucker....a furry equipment operator (me)....I wonder how many of
> us work in these fields. Most that I know are computer nerds, I don't know
> any who are in construction.
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:14:39 -0700
> Wrom: IVOTQNQEMSFDULHPQQWO
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit
>
> Try being a trucker! I wish that I could drive 70 hours a week. Heck I wish
> that I could drive more than 70 hours a week. The more I drive the more I
> make. Also I am in the truck 7/24 so I might as well be driving. I have
> nothing else to do.
>
> Donkey
>
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I work 60 - 70 hours per week...I have more job than most people and, at
> times, more than I would like. Being a yakky furry is about the only break I
> get....and when I'm not yakking, I get suited up and get yiffed by the
> neighbors dog (no other furries in the area).
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .....(hehe...that was actually kinda funny)
>
>
>
>
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>
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From bob at ginkosoft.com  Fri Jun 27 23:18:39 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:18:39 -0700
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <68be40570806271924p6dbca6a0y70e1ad15e20453a6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <COL101-W78C4F008E1F302A61487A4A5A10@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <1214623123.386AD0D0@dc7.dngr.org>

I used to drive a tow truck, and I know another raccoon who drove a big 
rig.

Now, what would be really surprising would be, like, an exec of a 
fortune 500 company or a high-profile politician. Although they would be 
able to buy a really high quality costume then...

On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:24, Mike Johnson wrote:
> I work in manufacturing myself. :)
>
> Wildfox
> http://www.chameleon.net/~wildfox/index.htm
>
> On 6/27/08, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>  A furry trucker....a furry equipment operator (me)....I wonder how 
>> many of
>>  us work in these fields. Most that I know are computer nerds, I don't 
>> know
>>  any who are in construction.

From greg at washoe.com  Sat Jun 28 00:09:20 2008
From: greg at washoe.com (Greg Campbell)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:09:20 -0700
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
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Message-ID: <085601c8d8d4$be7ba620$2d43f842@defaultaq9oisn>

I think I've got all the bases covered. I work in advertising/marketing and
do a surprising amount of coding. My biggest clients are national building
product manufacturers, whose livelihood requires a lot of trucking and
construction.


From jc2blion at taconic.net  Sat Jun 28 06:45:31 2008
From: jc2blion at taconic.net (Kamau)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:45:31 +0300
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <085601c8d8d4$be7ba620$2d43f842@defaultaq9oisn>
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Message-ID: <4866164B.4040006@taconic.net>

I can tell you we've got furs in every branch of the military both US 
and other countries.  How do I know?  Well, I'm writing this while on 
deployment.  Need I say more?

Kamau

Greg Campbell wrote:
> I think I've got all the bases covered. I work in advertising/marketing and
> do a surprising amount of coding. My biggest clients are national building
> product manufacturers, whose livelihood requires a lot of trucking and
> construction.
>
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From divituswolf at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 28 07:51:00 2008
From: divituswolf at yahoo.com (Divitus koop)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 04:51:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <4866164B.4040006@taconic.net>
Message-ID: <254497.41298.qm@web33507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

heh i know a handfull of the mill furs being one my self.. it gives me some good opertunites. like right now meeting up when i can with alot of furs in the uk while being stationed over here.

Divitus.


--- On Sat, 6/28/08, Kamau <jc2blion at taconic.net> wrote:

> From: Kamau <jc2blion at taconic.net>
> Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 5:45 AM
> I can tell you we've got furs in every branch of the
> military both US 
> and other countries.  How do I know?  Well, I'm writing
> this while on 
> deployment.  Need I say more?
> 
> Kamau
> 
> Greg Campbell wrote:
> > I think I've got all the bases covered. I work in
> advertising/marketing and
> > do a surprising amount of coding. My biggest clients
> are national building
> > product manufacturers, whose livelihood requires a lot
> of trucking and
> > construction.
> >
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> > Fursuit Mail list.
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From furrycouple at hotmail.com  Sat Jun 28 08:00:40 2008
From: furrycouple at hotmail.com (Johara Saluki)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:00:40 -0600
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <4866164B.4040006@taconic.net>
References: <COL101-W78C4F008E1F302A61487A4A5A10@phx.gbl><d23d76ca0806241751q458aac76j919b9313e612dd9f@mail.gmail.com><COL101-W8286E88EF68814B115FE3EA5A00@phx.gbl><068ACAB4-40DE-411C-94F9-B93170EED372@flyingfox.biz><COL101-W44235E4558E84B3076B0A4A5A30@phx.gbl><f3fa46aa0806260427n77e497aai91bad9e4ff771b58@mail.gmail.com><COL101-W64EAD1A83F18E040559FE7A5A20@phx.gbl><d23d76ca0806261914v37ed49c2kd2c21298e2afc4f@mail.gmail.com><COL101-W7401DDC7B3D5ECA3585152A59D0@phx.gbl>
	<68be40570806271924p6dbca6a0y70e1ad15e20453a6@mail.gmail.com>
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	<4866164B.4040006@taconic.net>
Message-ID: <COL101-W7853FB34289B01D4838413A59D0@phx.gbl>


FURS IN THE MILITARY???? No way....I didn't see that coming, but hats off to them all.> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:45:31 +0300> From: jc2blion at taconic.net> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org> Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit> > I can tell you we've got furs in every branch of the military both US > and other countries. How do I know? Well, I'm writing this while on > deployment. Need I say more?> > Kamau> > Greg Campbell wrote:> > I think I've got all the bases covered. I work in advertising/marketing and> > do a surprising amount of coding. My biggest clients are national building> > product manufacturers, whose livelihood requires a lot of trucking and> > construction.> >> > _______________________________________________> > _______________________________________________> > Fursuit Mail list.> > To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list> >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________> _______________________________________________> Fursuit Mail list.> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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From jpa2blue at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 28 12:04:33 2008
From: jpa2blue at yahoo.com (John Arroyo)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:04:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
Message-ID: <86598.63275.qm@web35307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

J2 the Fox "Foxtails": Huh, Well I ain't no nerd, and I get paid more than twice than minumum wage. I work as a Part-Time Shift Supervisor in a Security Firm contracted by a well known Hospital throughout the states. The rest of my time goes to full time college studies, and the rest goes to working out and going out and having some fun in the wild....litterally! The mountains that is! Then the beaches. Then the theme parks, Then traveling



----- Original Message ----
From: Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:25:19 PM
Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit

Most of the furs that I know are nerds or do min wage jobs. But I do know one that is an engineer.

There are a couple of us furs that are truckers

Donkey


On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com> wrote:

A furry trucker....a furry equipment operator (me)....I wonder how many of us work in these fields. Most that I know are computer nerds, I don't know any who are in construction. 



________________________________
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:14:39 -0700

From: donkeyears at gmail.com
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit


Try being a trucker! I wish that I could drive 70 hours a week. Heck I wish that I could drive more than 70 hours a week. The more I drive the more I make. Also I am in the truck 7/24 so I might as well be driving. I have nothing else to do.

Donkey


On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com> wrote:

I work 60 - 70 hours per week...I have more job than most people and, at times, more than I would like. Being a yakky furry is about the only break I get....and when I'm not yakking, I get suited up and get yiffed by the neighbors dog (no other furries in the area). 
.
.
.
.
.....(hehe...that was actually kinda funny)




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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sat Jun 28 17:47:32 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:47:32 -0700
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <COL101-W7853FB34289B01D4838413A59D0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL101-W78C4F008E1F302A61487A4A5A10@phx.gbl>
	<COL101-W44235E4558E84B3076B0A4A5A30@phx.gbl>
	<f3fa46aa0806260427n77e497aai91bad9e4ff771b58@mail.gmail.com>
	<COL101-W64EAD1A83F18E040559FE7A5A20@phx.gbl>
	<d23d76ca0806261914v37ed49c2kd2c21298e2afc4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<COL101-W7401DDC7B3D5ECA3585152A59D0@phx.gbl>
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	<4866164B.4040006@taconic.net>
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Message-ID: <d23d76ca0806281447v7d83870eg51858a54d381dfa7@mail.gmail.com>

I know that there are quite a few furs in the military. I think a Navy
Captain is the highest rated one that I have heard of. Well that was as of
2004.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 5:00 AM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
wrote:

>  FURS IN THE MILITARY???? No way....I didn't see that coming, but hats off
> to them all.
>
> > Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:45:31 +0300
> > From: jc2blion at taconic.net
> > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> > Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit
> >
> > I can tell you we've got furs in every branch of the military both US
> > and other countries. How do I know? Well, I'm writing this while on
> > deployment. Need I say more?
> >
> > Kamau
> >
> > Greg Campbell wrote:
> > > I think I've got all the bases covered. I work in advertising/marketing
> and
> > > do a surprising amount of coding. My biggest clients are national
> building
> > > product manufacturers, whose livelihood requires a lot of trucking and
> > > construction.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Fursuit Mail list.
> > > To edit your subscription, visit:
> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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From schneidsky at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 28 17:50:44 2008
From: schneidsky at yahoo.com (Adam Schneider)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:50:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0806281447v7d83870eg51858a54d381dfa7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <941670.52513.qm@web54006.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Furs in the military?? I bet their fursonas come complete with claws, woof!

- Duke :3

--- On Sat, 6/28/08, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 4:47 PM

I know that there are quite a few furs in the military. I think a Navy Captain is the highest rated one that I have heard of. Well that was as of 2004. 

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey


On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 5:00 AM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com> wrote:






FURS IN THE MILITARY???? No way....I didn't see that coming,?but hats off to them all.

> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:45:31 +0300
> From: jc2blion at taconic.net

> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit
> 
> I can tell you we've got furs in every branch of the military both US 

> and other countries. How do I know? Well, I'm writing this while on 
> deployment. Need I say more?
> 
> Kamau
> 
> Greg Campbell wrote:
> > I think I've got all the bases covered. I work in advertising/marketing and

> > do a surprising amount of coding. My biggest clients are national building
> > product manufacturers, whose livelihood requires a lot of trucking and
> > construction.
> >
> > _______________________________________________

> > _______________________________________________
> > Fursuit Mail list.
> > To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list

> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 
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From furrycouple at hotmail.com  Sat Jun 28 18:29:29 2008
From: furrycouple at hotmail.com (Johara Saluki)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:29:29 -0600
Subject: FL: Thank you!
Message-ID: <COL101-W2207B9F015A67A1290FA46A59D0@phx.gbl>


I just wanted to extend a heartfelt thank you to everyone for their kind remarks on my suit and the bits of chat that followed.
The hardest part at this point is, we don't have any furry events in this part of the world and are forced to travel south of the border to attend one. Feels like wearing a diamond bracelet under a long sleeve shirt. Well, I really look forward to meeting you at a con, and with any luck, it'll be later this year or early next. 
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sat Jun 28 21:31:41 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:31:41 -0700
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <941670.52513.qm@web54006.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <d23d76ca0806281447v7d83870eg51858a54d381dfa7@mail.gmail.com>
	<941670.52513.qm@web54006.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0806281831y532ddf9au850069bc82782457@mail.gmail.com>

Well I would think so since there bears. They would have to be bears since
they bear arms.

I bet some people think that I should have been a sheep and not an ass.
Since I have such baaaaaad jokes.

His Most Royal Highass, Sheep

Oops I meant Donkey

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Adam Schneider <schneidsky at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Furs in the military?  I bet their fursonas come complete with claws, woof!
>
> - Duke :3
>
> --- On *Sat, 6/28/08, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> From: Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 4:47 PM
>
>
> I know that there are quite a few furs in the military. I think a Navy
> Captain is the highest rated one that I have heard of. Well that was as of
> 2004.
>
> His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
>
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 5:00 AM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>  FURS IN THE MILITARY???? No way....I didn't see that coming, but hats off
>> to them all.
>>
>> > Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:45:31 +0300
>> > From: jc2blion at taconic.net
>> > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>> > Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit
>> >
>> > I can tell you we've got furs in every branch of the military both US
>> > and other countries. How do I know? Well, I'm writing this while on
>> > deployment. Need I say more?
>> >
>> > Kamau
>> >
>> > Greg Campbell wrote:
>> > > I think I've got all the bases covered. I work in
>> advertising/marketing and
>> > > do a surprising amount of coding. My biggest clients are national
>> building
>> > > product manufacturers, whose livelihood requires a lot of trucking and
>> > > construction.
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Fursuit Mail list.
>> > > To edit your subscription, visit:
>> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
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>> > _______________________________________________
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>> > To edit your subscription, visit:
>> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sat Jun 28 22:00:13 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:00:13 -0700
Subject: FL: Thank you!
In-Reply-To: <COL101-W2207B9F015A67A1290FA46A59D0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL101-W2207B9F015A67A1290FA46A59D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0806281900s2928378ej301f784e6d8902a@mail.gmail.com>

If your in Canada you do have one that I know of Feral. Its a few hours from
Toronto Canada.

Donkey

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
wrote:

>  I just wanted to extend a heartfelt thank you to everyone for their kind
> remarks on my suit and the bits of chat that followed.
> The hardest part at this point is, we don't have any furry events in this
> part of the world and are forced to travel south of the border to attend
> one. Feels like wearing a diamond bracelet under a long sleeve shirt. Well,
> I really look forward to meeting you at a con, and with any luck, it'll be
> later this year or early next.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
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From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Sat Jun 28 23:17:38 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:17:38 -0400
Subject: FL: Thank you!
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0806281900s2928378ej301f784e6d8902a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <COL101-W2207B9F015A67A1290FA46A59D0@phx.gbl>
	<d23d76ca0806281900s2928378ej301f784e6d8902a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4165e4980806282017y439db58bu9b27ccd47a637db5@mail.gmail.com>

WOOT!! Camp Feral!!

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:

> If your in Canada you do have one that I know of Feral. Its a few hours
> from Toronto Canada.
>
> Donkey
>
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>  I just wanted to extend a heartfelt thank you to everyone for their kind
>> remarks on my suit and the bits of chat that followed.
>> The hardest part at this point is, we don't have any furry events in this
>> part of the world and are forced to travel south of the border to attend
>> one. Feels like wearing a diamond bracelet under a long sleeve shirt. Well,
>> I really look forward to meeting you at a con, and with any luck, it'll be
>> later this year or early next.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> _______________________________________________
>> Fursuit Mail list.
>> To edit your subscription, visit:
>> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
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>>
>
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From tashumitsu at gmail.com  Sat Jun 28 23:23:01 2008
From: tashumitsu at gmail.com (TashuMitsu Dracosana)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:23:01 -0400
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0806281831y532ddf9au850069bc82782457@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d23d76ca0806281447v7d83870eg51858a54d381dfa7@mail.gmail.com>
	<941670.52513.qm@web54006.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<d23d76ca0806281831y532ddf9au850069bc82782457@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4165e4980806282023i65e3de91uda39302aebdd9483@mail.gmail.com>

hrmm I work at a jewelery and accesories store o-o...Claires ^^

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well I would think so since there bears. They would have to be bears since
> they bear arms.
>
> I bet some people think that I should have been a sheep and not an ass.
> Since I have such baaaaaad jokes.
>
> His Most Royal Highass, Sheep
>
> Oops I meant Donkey
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Adam Schneider <schneidsky at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>  Furs in the military?  I bet their fursonas come complete with claws,
>> woof!
>>
>> - Duke :3
>>
>> --- On *Sat, 6/28/08, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>
>> From: Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit
>> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>> Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 4:47 PM
>>
>>
>> I know that there are quite a few furs in the military. I think a Navy
>> Captain is the highest rated one that I have heard of. Well that was as of
>> 2004.
>>
>> His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 5:00 AM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  FURS IN THE MILITARY???? No way....I didn't see that coming, but hats
>>> off to them all.
>>>
>>> > Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:45:31 +0300
>>> > From: jc2blion at taconic.net
>>> > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>>> > Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit
>>> >
>>> > I can tell you we've got furs in every branch of the military both US
>>> > and other countries. How do I know? Well, I'm writing this while on
>>> > deployment. Need I say more?
>>> >
>>> > Kamau
>>> >
>>> > Greg Campbell wrote:
>>> > > I think I've got all the bases covered. I work in
>>> advertising/marketing and
>>> > > do a surprising amount of coding. My biggest clients are national
>>> building
>>> > > product manufacturers, whose livelihood requires a lot of trucking
>>> and
>>> > > construction.
>>> > >
>>> > > _______________________________________________
>>> > > _______________________________________________
>>> > > Fursuit Mail list.
>>> > > To edit your subscription, visit:
>>> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Fursuit Mail list.
>>> > To edit your subscription, visit:
>>> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list
>>>
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>>>
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From draconicarcher at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 29 03:51:43 2008
From: draconicarcher at yahoo.com (Dan Axtman)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 00:51:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
Message-ID: <802841.65370.qm@web45907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Yeah but it's hard to tell who tho, I know i've got at least 2 other furs in my company.
Had one other who's out of the army now but was constantly harrased by the other guys after they found out.  Grunts can be so cruel...

Cerros


----- Original Message ----
From: Kamau <jc2blion at taconic.net>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 6:45:31 AM
Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit

I can tell you we've got furs in every branch of the military both US 
and other countries.  How do I know?  Well, I'm writing this while on 
deployment.  Need I say more?

Kamau

Greg Campbell wrote:
> I think I've got all the bases covered. I work in advertising/marketing and
> do a surprising amount of coding. My biggest clients are national building
> product manufacturers, whose livelihood requires a lot of trucking and
> construction.
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From furrycouple at hotmail.com  Sun Jun 29 09:49:15 2008
From: furrycouple at hotmail.com (Johara Saluki)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 07:49:15 -0600
Subject: FL: Thank you!
In-Reply-To: <4165e4980806282017y439db58bu9b27ccd47a637db5@mail.gmail.com>
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I'm in Calgary, Alberta. The conservative capital of the world. There are many furs in this city, but they don't come out much, more lifestylers. 


Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:17:38 -0400From: tashumitsu at gmail.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: Thank you!WOOT!! Camp Feral!!
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Donkey <donkeyears at gmail.com> wrote:
If your in Canada you do have one that I know of Feral. Its a few hours from Toronto Canada.Donkey

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com> wrote:


I just wanted to extend a heartfelt thank you to everyone for their kind remarks on my suit and the bits of chat that followed.The hardest part at this point is, we don't have any furry events in this part of the world and are forced to travel south of the border to attend one. Feels like wearing a diamond bracelet under a long sleeve shirt. Well, I really look forward to meeting you at a con, and with any luck, it'll be later this year or early next. 

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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Sun Jun 29 11:32:26 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:32:26 -0700
Subject: FL: Thank you!
In-Reply-To: <COL101-W25418F5FF1BC4572F557F4A59C0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL101-W2207B9F015A67A1290FA46A59D0@phx.gbl>
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You should try the bible belt way here in the States. You can literary be
beaten to death for being non conforming.

Not that I am ageist conservatism. I am a conservative. What I am ageist is
people not letting others be different than them selfs. Thats one thing that
I love about furry. Conservative, liberal, gay, straight, Christen, Atheist
no mater what you are your welcome into the herd. The only thing that will
get you baned from furry is being a non hoofed herbivore. =b

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com>
wrote:

>  I'm in Calgary, Alberta. The conservative capital of the world. There are
> many furs in this city, but they don't come out much, more lifestylers.
>
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From wonder_moose_blue at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 29 22:51:02 2008
From: wonder_moose_blue at yahoo.com (Mark Sinicki)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:51:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <AC72426C39D148C0B7D311ED2CD47A72@AntimonPC>
Message-ID: <508185.10048.qm@web55202.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

There is a Yak associated with The Detroit Free Press. Probably the best thing about that paper except for the comics section.

--- On Thu, 6/26/08, Antimon <antimon at earthlink.net> wrote:

From: Antimon <antimon at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 9:17 AM





I know of atleast one Yak....:) made by Noble

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Donkey 
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit

Most of the furries that are on list have jobs. How else do you think we can afford are fursuits.

By the way I am not a yak I am an ass. But the idea of a yak fursuit is a nice idea. There are not that many yak fursuits if any.

His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
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From orwin at shaw.ca  Sun Jun 29 13:59:29 2008
From: orwin at shaw.ca (Orwin Raqoon)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:59:29 -0700
Subject: FL: Can we stay on topic please? Was Re:  New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0806271825t27f44cd8rf02ade1166bc3846@mail.gmail.com>
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What does all this banter have to do with Fursuits???

I'm ready to hit that unsubscribe button any day now, but being on this 
list for over 10 years, I really hate to do it.

Why don't the couple of you that continue to spam this email list, go 
find a nice IRC channel or IM client to chit chat about your lives with?

Thanks
-apologies to those that DO stay on topic here.


Donkey wrote:
> Most of the furs that I know are nerds or do min wage jobs. But I do 
> know one that is an engineer.
>
> There are a couple of us furs that are truckers
>
> Donkey
>
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Johara Saluki 
> <furrycouple at hotmail.com <mailto:furrycouple at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     A furry trucker....a furry equipment operator (me)....I wonder how
>     many of us work in these fields. Most that I know are computer
>     nerds, I don't know any who are in construction.
>
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:14:39 -0700
>
>         From: donkeyears at gmail.com <mailto:donkeyears at gmail.com>
>         To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>         <mailto:fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org>
>         Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit
>
>         Try being a trucker! I wish that I could drive 70 hours a
>         week. Heck I wish that I could drive more than 70 hours a
>         week. The more I drive the more I make. Also I am in the truck
>         7/24 so I might as well be driving. I have nothing else to do.
>
>         Donkey
>
>         On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Johara Saluki
>         <furrycouple at hotmail.com <mailto:furrycouple at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             I work 60 - 70 hours per week...I have more job than most
>             people and, at times, more than I would like. Being a
>             yakky furry is about the only break I get....and when I'm
>             not yakking, I get suited up and get yiffed by the
>             neighbors dog (no other furries in the area).
>             .
>             .
>             .
>             .
>             .....(hehe...that was actually kinda funny)
>
>
>
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From furrycouple at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 30 09:33:42 2008
From: furrycouple at hotmail.com (Johara Saluki)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:33:42 -0600
Subject: FL: Thank you!
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0806290832r1e01716eqd0f415d3a805cc27@mail.gmail.com>
References: <COL101-W2207B9F015A67A1290FA46A59D0@phx.gbl>
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Land of the all-night preacher huh? Yes, I have heard stories and if the depictions in movies are remotely accurate, I'll have to pass. 
So much for 'love thy neighbor'.........


Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:32:26 -0700From: donkeyears at gmail.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: Re: FL: Thank you!You should try the bible belt way here in the States. You can literary be beaten to death for being non conforming.Not that I am ageist conservatism. I am a conservative. What I am ageist is people not letting others be different than them selfs. Thats one thing that I love about furry. Conservative, liberal, gay, straight, Christen, Atheist no mater what you are your welcome into the herd. The only thing that will get you baned from furry is being a non hoofed herbivore. =b His Most Royal Highass, Donkey
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com> wrote:

I'm in Calgary, Alberta. The conservative capital of the world. There are many furs in this city, but they don't come out much, more lifestylers. 
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From BJ at BJButtons.com  Sat Jun 28 00:02:05 2008
From: BJ at BJButtons.com (BJButtons)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:02:05 -0500
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <COL101-W7401DDC7B3D5ECA3585152A59D0@phx.gbl>
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I also drive a semi. But is a bit different than what you typicaly 
think about a truck driver.   I drive LTL (less then Trailer Load) 
P+D (Pick up and Delivery) and pull a trailer with a lift gate. its 
not uncommon for me to be dodging low hanging wires and tree branches 
making a delivery to a home based business, and most of my day is 
backing up into a dock.

At 08:09 PM 6/27/2008, you wrote:
>A furry trucker....a furry equipment operator (me)....I wonder how 
>many of us work in these fields. Most that I know are computer 
>nerds, I don't know any who are in construction.
>
>
>----------
>Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:14:39 -0700
>From: donkeyears at gmail.com
>To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit
>
>Try being a trucker! I wish that I could drive 70 hours a week. Heck 
>I wish that I could drive more than 70 hours a week. The more I 
>drive the more I make. Also I am in the truck 7/24 so I might as 
>well be driving. I have nothing else to do.
>
>Donkey
>
>On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Johara Saluki 
><<mailto:furrycouple at hotmail.com>furrycouple at hotmail.com> wrote:
>I work 60 - 70 hours per week...I have more job than most people 
>and, at times, more than I would like. Being a yakky furry is about 
>the only break I get....and when I'm not yakking, I get suited up 
>and get yiffed by the neighbors dog (no other furries in the area).
>.
>.
>.
>.
>......(hehe...that was actually kinda funny)
>
>
>
>
>
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From donkeyears at gmail.com  Tue Jul  1 07:12:15 2008
From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 04:12:15 -0700
Subject: FL: international acceptance of furry
Message-ID: <d23d76ca0807010412j29c26057ocb8bf5d23f71e9af@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6IKTak3WA

I hope this news report is atypical of Austrian views of us furries.

Donkey
 <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6IKTak3WA>
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From furrycouple at hotmail.com  Tue Jul  1 07:20:08 2008
From: furrycouple at hotmail.com (Johara Saluki)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 05:20:08 -0600
Subject: FL: international acceptance of furry
In-Reply-To: <d23d76ca0807010412j29c26057ocb8bf5d23f71e9af@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d23d76ca0807010412j29c26057ocb8bf5d23f71e9af@mail.gmail.com>
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How cool is that??? Fursuiters just walking about the city for the fun of it and no-one harrassing them. 


Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 04:12:15 -0700From: donkeyears at gmail.comTo: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: FL: international acceptance of furryhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6IKTak3WAI hope this news report is atypical of Austrian views of us furries.Donkey
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From m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de  Tue Jul  1 07:28:21 2008
From: m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de (Markus Kalkbrenner - Maskottchen Germany)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:28:21 +0200
Subject: FL: international acceptance of furry
In-Reply-To: <COL101-W7B93C117250697107AEE5A59E0@phx.gbl>
References: <d23d76ca0807010412j29c26057ocb8bf5d23f71e9af@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi

Thats nothing special
We do that regular here. I even use my moped and drive sometimes in
public.
Why not as long you harm no one.
The only thing who could be happen is that you maybe get a tight jaket
on afterwards.

Grins

Atalon



> How cool is that??? Fursuiters just walking about the city for the
> fun of it and no-one harrassing them. 


> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 04:12:15 -0700From: donkeyears at gmail.comTo:
> fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: FL: international acceptance
> of furryhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6IKTak3WAI hope this news
> report is atypical of Austrian views of us furries.Donkey
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From illpalazzosama at gmail.com  Tue Jul  1 09:57:02 2008
From: illpalazzosama at gmail.com (Jesse Triplett)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 09:57:02 -0400
Subject: FL: international acceptance of furry
In-Reply-To: <1954705485.20080701132821@maskottchen-germany.de>
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Those of us across the pond (aka the atlantic ocean) from europe should
realize or at least remember that europe (especially countries like austria)
are generally more accepting and forgiving that many americans.  This i feel
is due to the fact that america was originally colonized by europe's biggest
tightwads at the time.  Lets not forget that the pilgrims were so uptight
that england wanted them to leave.

How uptight do you have to be for england to say, "get out".

I don't know. Maybe i'm wrong.  BUt i've always heard that there are many
places in europe that its "ok" for 2 men to hold hands in public without
being gay.  *gasp*

Either way, its nice to know that there are some places in the world willing
to accept furries.

Jesse



On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Markus Kalkbrenner - Maskottchen Germany <
m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Thats nothing special
> We do that regular here. I even use my moped and drive sometimes in
> public.
> Why not as long you harm no one.
> The only thing who could be happen is that you maybe get a tight jaket
> on afterwards.
>
> Grins
>
> Atalon
>
>
>
> > How cool is that??? Fursuiters just walking about the city for the
> > fun of it and no-one harrassing them.
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 04:12:15 -0700From: donkeyears at gmail.comTo:
> > fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.orgSubject: FL: international acceptance
> > of furryhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6IKTak3WAI hope this news
> > report is atypical of Austrian views of us furries.Donkey
> > _________________________________________________________________
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From synthwolf at gmail.com  Tue Jul  1 13:56:51 2008
From: synthwolf at gmail.com (Jon Lee)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:56:51 -0700
Subject: FL: Odd Fursuit Construction Question...
Message-ID: <60e717ff0807011056q5b6de51bpb38a565a930f17bc@mail.gmail.com>

Heya everyfur--

As the few of you on this list who know me know, I was born with a birth
defect that ended my left arm a few inches below the elbow joint.  Now, as
awesome as a Megaman-type gun-arm thing would be, I am looking for some
honest help here.

How exactly would one design a fursuit that would fit my arm and still look
good?  I thought about using a prosthetic arm, as I used to use one, but
stopped long ago because of the weight and clumsiness of it.  In short, it
was expensive (like, over $1500) and not useful at all.  In fact, it was
more of a hindrance than a help.  I mean, I rock climb with one hand, for
god's sake.

So, I have decided that in future fursuits, I will just make it so it
conforms to my left arm the way it is.  But, my question remains-- how would
I make it look decent, what with padding and all?

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated^^

--Synthwolf, Resident Wolfie Keytarist of Bellingham, Washington
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From bob at ginkosoft.com  Tue Jul  1 14:21:06 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 11:21:06 -0700
Subject: FL: Odd Fursuit Construction Question...
In-Reply-To: <60e717ff0807011056q5b6de51bpb38a565a930f17bc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <60e717ff0807011056q5b6de51bpb38a565a930f17bc@mail.gmail.com>
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I suppose the easiest answer would be something like a mannequin arm or 
some hollow plastic hand-shaped model. When halloween comes around, I'm 
sure there would be some false lower arms for sale that could be used 
for shape.

>  Now, as awesome as a Megaman-type gun-arm thing would be, I am looking 
> for some honest help here.

Honestly? I say a gun-arm thing would rock. Especially since it sounds 
like you have a foot or more of space for any electronics and 
animatronics. Or maybe a translucent hand that glows various colors, 
like some arcane magic-caster. Or, ironically enough, a hook, for a 
pirate. Or some cybernetic arm that's unenclosed, showing wires and 
gears where flesh would be. It really depends on the species and 
character, but it sounds like you're the type that could turn it into a 
strength and real oppurtunity.

Either that or have the false arm held on with velcro, so you can rip it 
off and beat people over the head with it.

Hope this helps,
--BobCoon

From anthrobunny at gmail.com  Tue Jul  1 14:43:47 2008
From: anthrobunny at gmail.com (Blackberry)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 11:43:47 -0700
Subject: FL: Odd Fursuit Construction Question...
In-Reply-To: <60e717ff0807011056q5b6de51bpb38a565a930f17bc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <60e717ff0807011056q5b6de51bpb38a565a930f17bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3EF83F7D-4391-44DE-8AFF-8352E8D198D6@gmail.com>

What about making most of a normal sleeve, but tapering it to a point  
and putting a foam rubber cone in it to hold the form and give it body?

On Jul 1, 2008, at 10:56 AM, "Jon Lee" <synthwolf at gmail.com> wrote:

> Heya everyfur--
>
> As the few of you on this list who know me know, I was born with a  
> birth defect that ended my left arm a few inches below the elbow  
> joint.  Now, as awesome as a Megaman-type gun-arm thing would be, I  
> am looking for some honest help here.
>
> How exactly would one design a fursuit that would fit my arm and  
> still look good?  I thought about using a prosthetic arm, as I used  
> to use one, but stopped long ago because of the weight and  
> clumsiness of it.  In short, it was expensive (like, over $1500) and  
> not useful at all.  In fact, it was more of a hindrance than a  
> help.  I mean, I rock climb with one hand, for god's sake.
>
> So, I have decided that in future fursuits, I will just make it so  
> it conforms to my left arm the way it is.  But, my question  
> remains-- how would I make it look decent, what with padding and all?
>
> Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated^^
>
> --Synthwolf, Resident Wolfie Keytarist of Bellingham, Washington
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Tue Jul  1 15:38:56 2008
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (fox kinsman)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 15:38:56 -0400
Subject: FL: Odd Fursuit Construction Question...
In-Reply-To: <60e717ff0807011056q5b6de51bpb38a565a930f17bc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <60e717ff0807011056q5b6de51bpb38a565a930f17bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7B1EBAE7-6437-483F-ADC0-3DB4E4454BC4@flyingfox.biz>

rock climbing -awesome!!  i just do a little bouldering now and then - 
fun

I wonder if just simply keeping your suit arm tailored to your  
natural shape would be good -that way you would be able to move and  
interact like you normally do and honestly i think it would be pretty  
cool and unique =)

for a prosthetic though -maybe a tube of light-weight, stiff plastic  
or mesh just to hold shape and a foam paw in a 'mostly' open fashion  
for waving hellos and hugs (i'm imagining if it is too open though it  
may look too unnatural)  with the foam paw you may get some bounce  
out of it to where you could bob it back and forth in waving and  
other gestures ;)

Scape





On Jul 1, 2008, at 1:56 PM, Jon Lee wrote:

Heya everyfur--

As the few of you on this list who know me know, I was born with a  
birth defect that ended my left arm a few inches below the elbow  
joint.  Now, as awesome as a Megaman-type gun-arm thing would be, I  
am looking for some honest help here.

How exactly would one design a fursuit that would fit my arm and  
still look good?  I thought about using a prosthetic arm, as I used  
to use one, but stopped long ago because of the weight and clumsiness  
of it.  In short, it was expensive (like, over $1500) and not useful  
at all.  In fact, it was more of a hindrance than a help.  I mean, I  
rock climb with one hand, for god's sake.

So, I have decided that in future fursuits, I will just make it so it  
conforms to my left arm the way it is.  But, my question remains--  
how would I make it look decent, what with padding and all?

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated^^

--Synthwolf, Resident Wolfie Keytarist of Bellingham, Washington
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From smorizio at hotmail.com  Tue Jul  1 17:30:35 2008
From: smorizio at hotmail.com (steven morizio)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 17:30:35 -0400
Subject: FL: Odd Fursuit Construction Question...
In-Reply-To: <60e717ff0807011056q5b6de51bpb38a565a930f17bc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <60e717ff0807011056q5b6de51bpb38a565a930f17bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY104-W21DE2B5AE757EDBA9A3E0AD99E0@phx.gbl>


to fire the gun you could use a pressure switch taped to your arm.the switch would be the same micro switch used in paintball markers.you could use rc motors or air valves to move the arm for you.your real arm could fit into a foam cone and velcro.the air hoses and electronics could be placed in a bag on your back as part of the suit.you could use high power led to light the gun/arm up and your eyes too.


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From smrgol at optonline.net  Tue Jul  1 19:21:48 2008
From: smrgol at optonline.net (Smrgol -};>~)
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:21:48 -0400
Subject: FL: Odd Fursuit Construction Question...
Message-ID: <000201c8dbd1$3cd9e5a0$650fa8c0@EEYORE>

I'd build it like a normal fursuit arm and stuff it with fiberfill like a 
plush.

You could probably put a PVC pipe "bone" in it if you wanted to keep it 
stiff.


From tsuyoto at gmail.com  Tue Jul  1 19:29:15 2008
From: tsuyoto at gmail.com (Tsuyoto Wolf)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 16:29:15 -0700
Subject: FL: Odd Fursuit Construction Question...
In-Reply-To: <60e717ff0807011056q5b6de51bpb38a565a930f17bc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <60e717ff0807011056q5b6de51bpb38a565a930f17bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e44a10180807011629n737d8532r17db6ef1b59ef3c2@mail.gmail.com>

I vote for something cybernetic or robot looking as well. The anthroid
side of the fandom has been largely ignored.

-Tsuyoto

On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Jon Lee <synthwolf at gmail.com> wrote:
> Heya everyfur--
>
> As the few of you on this list who know me know, I was born with a birth
> defect that ended my left arm a few inches below the elbow joint.  Now, as
> awesome as a Megaman-type gun-arm thing would be, I am looking for some
> honest help here.
>
> How exactly would one design a fursuit that would fit my arm and still look
> good?  I thought about using a prosthetic arm, as I used to use one, but
> stopped long ago because of the weight and clumsiness of it.  In short, it
> was expensive (like, over $1500) and not useful at all.  In fact, it was
> more of a hindrance than a help.  I mean, I rock climb with one hand, for
> god's sake.
>
> So, I have decided that in future fursuits, I will just make it so it
> conforms to my left arm the way it is.  But, my question remains-- how would
> I make it look decent, what with padding and all?
>
> Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated^^
>
> --Synthwolf, Resident Wolfie Keytarist of Bellingham, Washington

From northing at gmail.com  Tue Jul  1 20:53:02 2008
From: northing at gmail.com (North)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 17:53:02 -0700
Subject: FL:  Odd Fursuit Construction Question...
Message-ID: <201e9a6e0807011753p539d5340i102083e9b8f0f9a9@mail.gmail.com>

 Synth,

I think I'd go with the idea of constructing an essentially standard fursuit
but with a sewn-on paw and a stitched-in baffle where your natural arm ends.
 Use a pool noodle and some polyfill to give the appendage structure.
Perhaps you could use some system of snaps or velcro that would allow you to
attach the paw end to strategic locations around the body suit to create
adjustable poses.

Other than that, I'd go with the totally awesome Mecha-gun arm with lots of
blinkies!

North (the white wolf in puppy's clothing!)


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>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:56:51 -0700
> From: "Jon Lee" <synthwolf at gmail.com>
> Subject: FL: Odd Fursuit Construction Question...
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> Heya everyfur--
>
> As the few of you on this list who know me know, I was born with a birth
> defect that ended my left arm a few inches below the elbow joint.  Now, as
> awesome as a Megaman-type gun-arm thing would be, I am looking for some
> honest help here.
>
> How exactly would one design a fursuit that would fit my arm and still look
> good?  I thought about using a prosthetic arm, as I used to use one, but
> stopped long ago because of the weight and clumsiness of it.  In short, it
> was expensive (like, over $1500) and not useful at all.  In fact, it was
> more of a hindrance than a help.  I mean, I rock climb with one hand, for
> god's sake.
>
> So, I have decided that in future fursuits, I will just make it so it
> conforms to my left arm the way it is.  But, my question remains-- how
> would
> I make it look decent, what with padding and all?
>
> Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated^^
>
> --Synthwolf, Resident Wolfie Keytarist of Bellingham, Washington
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From superhedgie at googlemail.com  Tue Jul  1 20:57:51 2008
From: superhedgie at googlemail.com (Super BH)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 01:57:51 +0100
Subject: FL: Odd Fursuit Construction Question...
References: <60e717ff0807011056q5b6de51bpb38a565a930f17bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005b01c8dbde$acbcdbe0$4201a8c0@NoobSaibot>

My first suit had a Bionic arm on it, and it proved to be a good talking point with other fursuiters. Bionics aren't much used, which means they're unique and therefore easily noticed. Since my suit was a hedgehog, and I was the first hedgehog suiter, I had +2 unique points!

I was pretty popular.

Hedgie 

>As the few of you on this list who know me know, I was born with a birth defect that >ended my left arm a few inches below the elbow joint.  Now, as awesome as a >Megaman-type gun-arm thing would be, I am looking for some honest help here.
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From dia at critter.net  Tue Jul  1 21:31:34 2008
From: dia at critter.net (dia at critter.net)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 20:31:34 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: FL: Odd Fursuit Construction Question...
In-Reply-To: <mailman.28.1214955228.1516.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
References: <mailman.28.1214955228.1516.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <3034.98.207.171.248.1214962294.squirrel@secure.critter.net>

I think you should go to LJ FursuitAuction with a drawing of what you are
looking for, and see what you can get for a quote:
http://community.livejournal.com/fursuitauctions/

Goodluck!
-J
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:56:51 -0700
> From: "Jon Lee" <synthwolf at gmail.com>
> Subject: FL: Odd Fursuit Construction Question...
>
> Heya everyfur--
>
>
> As the few of you on this list who know me know, I was born with a birth
> defect that ended my left arm a few inches below the elbow joint.  Now, as
>  awesome as a Megaman-type gun-arm thing would be, I am looking for some
> honest help here.
>
> How exactly would one design a fursuit that would fit my arm and still
> look good?  I thought about using a prosthetic arm, as I used to use one,
> but stopped long ago because of the weight and clumsiness of it.  In
> short, it was expensive (like, over $1500) and not useful at all.  In
> fact, it was more of a hindrance than a help.  I mean, I rock climb with
> one hand, for god's sake.
>
> So, I have decided that in future fursuits, I will just make it so it
> conforms to my left arm the way it is.  But, my question remains-- how
> would I make it look decent, what with padding and all?
>
>
> Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated^^
>
>
> --Synthwolf, Resident Wolfie Keytarist of Bellingham, Washington



From m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de  Wed Jul  2 03:28:11 2008
From: m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de (Markus Kalkbrenner - Maskottchen Germany)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:28:11 +0200
Subject: FL: A Dragon finished again
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-W21DE2B5AE757EDBA9A3E0AD99E0@phx.gbl>
References: <60e717ff0807011056q5b6de51bpb38a565a930f17bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY104-W21DE2B5AE757EDBA9A3E0AD99E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1889573080.20080702092811@maskottchen-germany.de>

Hi Folks,

here a bit of an update about my last works.

A dragon indeed a english dragon (gone to a pomi)

Here some Pics:

Unfortunately the color of the dragon rocks any digicam.

www.atalon.de/Anthrocreations/CurrentCostumes/DRagonSeawther/Complete/Dragon_FIN_14.jpg

www.atalon.de/Anthrocreations/CurrentCostumes/DRagonSeawther/Complete/Dragon_FIN_11.jpg

Hugs

Atalon the Deer.

PS: I will host a SIG on Eurofurence and my new Commission pages up in
August so far the folders will do the job.

www.anthrocreations.com











From dia at critter.net  Wed Jul  2 12:44:24 2008
From: dia at critter.net (dia at critter.net)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 11:44:24 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: FL: A Dragon finished again
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1215014404.13716.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
References: <mailman.3.1215014404.13716.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
Message-ID: <30518.67.155.111.199.1215017064.squirrel@secure.critter.net>

FANTASTIC Dragon!!
I am sure the group in LJ Fursuit would love to see this wonderful one!  I
would love to see a close up of the face with the eyes!

How did you make the wings? PVC like mine, I am wondering?

LOVE the colors! VERY bright! Great tail too!

-J

> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:28:11 +0200
> From: Markus Kalkbrenner - Maskottchen Germany
> <m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de>
> Subject: FL: A Dragon finished again

> Hi Folks,
>
>
> here a bit of an update about my last works.
> A dragon indeed a english dragon (gone to a pomi)
> Here some Pics:
>
>
> Unfortunately the color of the dragon rocks any digicam.

> www.atalon.de/Anthrocreations/CurrentCostumes/DRagonSeawther/Complete/Dra
> gon_FIN_14.jpg
>
> www.atalon.de/Anthrocreations/CurrentCostumes/DRagonSeawther/Complete/Dra
> gon_FIN_11.jpg
>
> Hugs
> Atalon the Deer.
>
>
> PS: I will host a SIG on Eurofurence and my new Commission pages up in
> August so far the folders will do the job.
> www.anthrocreations.com



From synthwolf at gmail.com  Wed Jul  2 13:57:17 2008
From: synthwolf at gmail.com (Jon Lee)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:57:17 -0700
Subject: FL: Odd Fursuit Construction Question...
In-Reply-To: <3034.98.207.171.248.1214962294.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
References: <mailman.28.1214955228.1516.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<3034.98.207.171.248.1214962294.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
Message-ID: <60e717ff0807021057s3a0c1b84g346a3598b681bc60@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the tips everybody^^  I may actually pursue an android-type gun
thing on a later suit, but for the next two I am currently working on, I
will use the tapered-idea suggested by Blackberry.  As construction
progresses, I shall post pics (on FA most likely) and link to them on the
list!

--Synth

On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 6:31 PM, <dia at critter.net> wrote:

> I think you should go to LJ FursuitAuction with a drawing of what you are
> looking for, and see what you can get for a quote:
> http://community.livejournal.com/fursuitauctions/
>
> Goodluck!
> -J
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:56:51 -0700
> > From: "Jon Lee" <synthwolf at gmail.com>
> > Subject: FL: Odd Fursuit Construction Question...
> >
> > Heya everyfur--
> >
> >
> > As the few of you on this list who know me know, I was born with a birth
> > defect that ended my left arm a few inches below the elbow joint.  Now,
> as
> >  awesome as a Megaman-type gun-arm thing would be, I am looking for some
> > honest help here.
> >
> > How exactly would one design a fursuit that would fit my arm and still
> > look good?  I thought about using a prosthetic arm, as I used to use one,
> > but stopped long ago because of the weight and clumsiness of it.  In
> > short, it was expensive (like, over $1500) and not useful at all.  In
> > fact, it was more of a hindrance than a help.  I mean, I rock climb with
> > one hand, for god's sake.
> >
> > So, I have decided that in future fursuits, I will just make it so it
> > conforms to my left arm the way it is.  But, my question remains-- how
> > would I make it look decent, what with padding and all?
> >
> >
> > Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated^^
> >
> >
> > --Synthwolf, Resident Wolfie Keytarist of Bellingham, Washington
>
>
>
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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Wed Jul  2 14:02:40 2008
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (fox kinsman)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:02:40 -0400
Subject: FL: A Dragon finished again
In-Reply-To: <1889573080.20080702092811@maskottchen-germany.de>
References: <60e717ff0807011056q5b6de51bpb38a565a930f17bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY104-W21DE2B5AE757EDBA9A3E0AD99E0@phx.gbl>
	<1889573080.20080702092811@maskottchen-germany.de>
Message-ID: <4B237C00-6789-4417-A05A-990EB094CD28@flyingfox.biz>

frikkin awesome dude ;)

Scape






On Jul 2, 2008, at 3:28 AM, Markus Kalkbrenner - Maskottchen Germany  
wrote:

Hi Folks,

here a bit of an update about my last works.

A dragon indeed a english dragon (gone to a pomi)

Here some Pics:

Unfortunately the color of the dragon rocks any digicam.

www.atalon.de/Anthrocreations/CurrentCostumes/DRagonSeawther/Complete/ 
Dragon_FIN_14.jpg

www.atalon.de/Anthrocreations/CurrentCostumes/DRagonSeawther/Complete/ 
Dragon_FIN_11.jpg

Hugs

Atalon the Deer.

PS: I will host a SIG on Eurofurence and my new Commission pages up in
August so far the folders will do the job.

www.anthrocreations.com










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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Wed Jul  2 14:03:07 2008
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (fox kinsman)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:03:07 -0400
Subject: FL: Odd Fursuit Construction Question...
In-Reply-To: <60e717ff0807021057s3a0c1b84g346a3598b681bc60@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.28.1214955228.1516.fursuit-list@lists.fursuit.org>
	<3034.98.207.171.248.1214962294.squirrel@secure.critter.net>
	<60e717ff0807021057s3a0c1b84g346a3598b681bc60@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AAB0D5D2-2407-4B17-A395-EB3278920CB1@flyingfox.biz>

man i'd love to check it out =)

Scape






On Jul 2, 2008, at 1:57 PM, Jon Lee wrote:

Thanks for the tips everybody^^  I may actually pursue an android- 
type gun thing on a later suit, but for the next two I am currently  
working on, I will use the tapered-idea suggested by Blackberry.  As  
construction progresses, I shall post pics (on FA most likely) and  
link to them on the list!

--Synth

On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 6:31 PM, <dia at critter.net> wrote:
I think you should go to LJ FursuitAuction with a drawing of what you  
are
looking for, and see what you can get for a quote:
http://community.livejournal.com/fursuitauctions/

Goodluck!
-J
 >
 > Message: 1
 > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:56:51 -0700
 > From: "Jon Lee" <synthwolf at gmail.com>
 > Subject: FL: Odd Fursuit Construction Question...
 >
 > Heya everyfur--
 >
 >
 > As the few of you on this list who know me know, I was born with a  
birth
 > defect that ended my left arm a few inches below the elbow joint.   
Now, as
 >  awesome as a Megaman-type gun-arm thing would be, I am looking  
for some
 > honest help here.
 >
 > How exactly would one design a fursuit that would fit my arm and  
still
 > look good?  I thought about using a prosthetic arm, as I used to  
use one,
 > but stopped long ago because of the weight and clumsiness of it.  In
 > short, it was expensive (like, over $1500) and not useful at all.  In
 > fact, it was more of a hindrance than a help.  I mean, I rock  
climb with
 > one hand, for god's sake.
 >
 > So, I have decided that in future fursuits, I will just make it so it
 > conforms to my left arm the way it is.  But, my question remains--  
how
 > would I make it look decent, what with padding and all?
 >
 >
 > Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated^^
 >
 >
 > --Synthwolf, Resident Wolfie Keytarist of Bellingham, Washington



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From Mezzobean at aol.com  Wed Jul  2 17:28:58 2008
From: Mezzobean at aol.com (Mezzobean at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:28:58 EDT
Subject: FL: A Dragon finished again
Message-ID: <ca6.2c81dad0.359d4d1a@aol.com>



In a message dated 7/2/2008 5:25:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
fox at flyingfox.biz writes:

frikkin  awesome dude ;)  


Scape





 
frikkin awesome indeed!!!
mezzobean



 
www.atalon.de/Anthrocreations/CurrentCostumes/DRagonSeawther/Complete/Dragon
_FIN_14.jpg


www.atalon.de/Anthrocreations/CurrentCostumes/DRagonSeawther/Complete/Dragon_F
IN_11.jpg


Hugs


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From rigeldc at verizon.net  Wed Jul  2 22:27:32 2008
From: rigeldc at verizon.net (Brian Harris)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:27:32 -0400
Subject: FL: Volunteer opportunity in Rochester, NY
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20080702221744.01561aa0@incoming.verizon.net>

I'm looking for responsible, reliable, and competent fursuiters in 
Rochester, NY or in reasonable travel distance to Rochester, NY with public 
performance experience and their own visually-appealing fursuits who might 
be interested in some family-friendly public volunteer work.  Contact me at 
rigeltiger at gmail.com for details.

- Rigel


From kalagei at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 00:10:14 2008
From: kalagei at gmail.com (Kalagei The Fox)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:10:14 -0700
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
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<i>I work 60 - 70 hours per week...I have more job than most people and, at
times, more than I would like. Being a yakky furry is about the only break I
get....and when I'm not yakking, I get suited up and get yiffed by the
neighbors dog (no other furries in the area).</i>


I know how you feel there. I was doing about the same (sometimes up to 91
hours a week >_>) but my job cut our overtime budget, so we're all stuck on
the 37.5/50 split. Currently looking for a second one to fund my suit :)

anyway, Cheers on the very nice suit!

-Kalagei


On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:02 PM, BJButtons <BJ at bjbuttons.com> wrote:

> I also drive a semi. But is a bit different than what you typicaly think
> about a truck driver.   I drive LTL (less then Trailer Load) P+D (Pick up
> and Delivery) and pull a trailer with a lift gate. its not uncommon for me
> to be dodging low hanging wires and tree branches making a delivery to a
> home based business, and most of my day is backing up into a dock.
>
> At 08:09 PM 6/27/2008, you wrote:
>
>> A furry trucker....a furry equipment operator (me)....I wonder how many of
>> us work in these fields. Most that I know are computer nerds, I don't know
>> any who are in construction.
>>
>>
>> ----------
>> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:14:39 -0700
>> From: donkeyears at gmail.com
>> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>> Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit
>>
>> Try being a trucker! I wish that I could drive 70 hours a week. Heck I
>> wish that I could drive more than 70 hours a week. The more I drive the more
>> I make. Also I am in the truck 7/24 so I might as well be driving. I have
>> nothing else to do.
>>
>> Donkey
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Johara Saluki <<mailto:
>> furrycouple at hotmail.com>furrycouple at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I work 60 - 70 hours per week...I have more job than most people and, at
>> times, more than I would like. Being a yakky furry is about the only break I
>> get....and when I'm not yakking, I get suited up and get yiffed by the
>> neighbors dog (no other furries in the area).
>> .
>> .
>> .
>> .
>> ......(hehe...that was actually kinda funny)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From kalagei at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 00:10:40 2008
From: kalagei at gmail.com (Kalagei The Fox)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:10:40 -0700
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
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I guess Italic tags don't work here...

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Kalagei The Fox <kalagei at gmail.com> wrote:

> <i>I work 60 - 70 hours per week...I have more job than most people and, at
> times, more than I would like. Being a yakky furry is about the only break I
> get....and when I'm not yakking, I get suited up and get yiffed by the
> neighbors dog (no other furries in the area).</i>
>
>
> I know how you feel there. I was doing about the same (sometimes up to 91
> hours a week >_>) but my job cut our overtime budget, so we're all stuck on
> the 37.5/50 split. Currently looking for a second one to fund my suit :)
>
> anyway, Cheers on the very nice suit!
>
> -Kalagei
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:02 PM, BJButtons <BJ at bjbuttons.com> wrote:
>
>> I also drive a semi. But is a bit different than what you typicaly think
>> about a truck driver.   I drive LTL (less then Trailer Load) P+D (Pick up
>> and Delivery) and pull a trailer with a lift gate. its not uncommon for me
>> to be dodging low hanging wires and tree branches making a delivery to a
>> home based business, and most of my day is backing up into a dock.
>>
>> At 08:09 PM 6/27/2008, you wrote:
>>
>>> A furry trucker....a furry equipment operator (me)....I wonder how many
>>> of us work in these fields. Most that I know are computer nerds, I don't
>>> know any who are in construction.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:14:39 -0700
>>> From: donkeyears at gmail.com
>>> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
>>> Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit
>>>
>>> Try being a trucker! I wish that I could drive 70 hours a week. Heck I
>>> wish that I could drive more than 70 hours a week. The more I drive the more
>>> I make. Also I am in the truck 7/24 so I might as well be driving. I have
>>> nothing else to do.
>>>
>>> Donkey
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Johara Saluki <<mailto:
>>> furrycouple at hotmail.com>furrycouple at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> I work 60 - 70 hours per week...I have more job than most people and, at
>>> times, more than I would like. Being a yakky furry is about the only break I
>>> get....and when I'm not yakking, I get suited up and get yiffed by the
>>> neighbors dog (no other furries in the area).
>>> .
>>> .
>>> .
>>> .
>>> ......(hehe...that was actually kinda funny)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From uck at growf.com  Thu Jul  3 01:42:53 2008
From: uck at growf.com (uck at growf.com)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:42:53 -0700
Subject: FL: Odd Fursuit Construction Question...
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Just another thought...  I've seen a small handful of zombie wolves and 
fursuits out there.  You'd be able to do something that none of them 
could: have the lower half of your arm hanging on by a few stringy veins 
and tendons.  People will wonder how you pulled off such a neat effect.  :)

-Uck!


Jon Lee wrote:
> Thanks for the tips everybody^^  I may actually pursue an android-type 
> gun thing on a later suit, but for the next two I am currently working 
> on, I will use the tapered-idea suggested by Blackberry.  As 
> construction progresses, I shall post pics (on FA most likely) and 
> link to them on the list! 
>
> --Synth

From synthwolf at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 02:23:20 2008
From: synthwolf at gmail.com (Jon Lee)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 23:23:20 -0700
Subject: FL: Wall-E and Fursuit Eyes... hmm...
Message-ID: <60e717ff0807022323g2950c957t75f9bc565c568412@mail.gmail.com>

I just returned from seeing Wall-E, and the thought crossed my mind... how
do the animators at Pixar avoid the "uncanny valley" effect so prevalent
with the 3D or "follow-me" eyes in fursuit head?  (link here for an
explanation of the uncanny valley, if you're not familiar with the concept:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley)  Especially with a robot
character such as Wall-E, it could be easy to run into the uncanny valley.
Wall-E's eyes are partly sunken into his well, not his head, but into his
camera-thingy, and covering that is an outer lens, which conveys some of the
sparkle seen in a human or animal eye.  Extending this to suit heads, could
a similar arrangement be used with 3D eyes (with the pupil and iris sunken
back as usual, but a "lens", of plastic or what have you), or has something
along those lines already been done or attempted?

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From raiderwolf22 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  3 05:27:14 2008
From: raiderwolf22 at yahoo.com (Raider Wolf)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 02:27:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Volunteer opportunity in Rochester, NY
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I would love to help, but I had to send my head back for repairs, I'm not sure how long it'll take. I do live in Rochester and just got my fursuit in June for AC. Plus, my schedule at work isn't steady, I get different days off every week. 
?
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Raider. 


?

--- On Thu, 7/3/08, Brian Harris <rigeldc at verizon.net> wrote:

From: Brian Harris <rigeldc at verizon.net>
Subject: FL: Volunteer opportunity in Rochester, NY
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 2:27 AM

I'm looking for responsible, reliable, and competent fursuiters in 
Rochester, NY or in reasonable travel distance to Rochester, NY with public 
performance experience and their own visually-appealing fursuits who might 
be interested in some family-friendly public volunteer work.  Contact me at 
rigeltiger at gmail.com for details.

- Rigel

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From fox at flyingfox.biz  Thu Jul  3 08:46:23 2008
From: fox at flyingfox.biz (fox kinsman)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:46:23 -0400
Subject: FL: Wall-E and Fursuit Eyes... hmm...
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I've felt this uncanny valley thing before too lol -I think that our  
"toonyness" factor in the fursuit database search is an indication of  
it also.  It's sorta like the more realistic the fursuit, the less  
likely you are to evoke an "awww you made him cry" or such response  
from people when interacting but then again the more realistic suits  
seem not generally used for those public entertainment purposes but  
are a helluva lot more impressive at fur cons ;)
I had lots of friends say they get the creeps from the follow-me eyes  
when I was building Scape (I really dig them though;) so I made them  
slight and they turned out ok. -Jeeze along those lines, people get  
creeped out by goat and horse eyes in general so that was a bit of a  
challenge too.
Anyways -North puppy has really cool eyes that have that shiny  
reflective look.  It seems you could get that effect if you used  
lenses from some form of eye protection -would want to make sure  
whatever plastic you use is made specifically for vision though since  
it is hard enough to see through buckram fursuit eyes as it is lol

Scape






On Jul 3, 2008, at 2:23 AM, Jon Lee wrote:

I just returned from seeing Wall-E, and the thought crossed my  
mind... how do the animators at Pixar avoid the "uncanny valley"  
effect so prevalent with the 3D or "follow-me" eyes in fursuit head?   
(link here for an explanation of the uncanny valley, if you're not  
familiar with the concept: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ 
Uncanny_valley)  Especially with a robot character such as Wall-E, it  
could be easy to run into the uncanny valley.  Wall-E's eyes are  
partly sunken into his well, not his head, but into his camera- 
thingy, and covering that is an outer lens, which conveys some of the  
sparkle seen in a human or animal eye.  Extending this to suit heads,  
could a similar arrangement be used with 3D eyes (with the pupil and  
iris sunken back as usual, but a "lens", of plastic or what have  
you), or has something along those lines already been done or attempted?

--Synth
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From illpalazzosama at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 09:27:56 2008
From: illpalazzosama at gmail.com (Jesse Triplett)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:27:56 -0400
Subject: FL: Wall-E and Fursuit Eyes... hmm...
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I think the fact that character's in pixar films like wall-e and toy story
don't think they are human to a high degree helps mitigate any effects that
the uncanny valley may produce.  ie: because wall-e recognizes that he
himself is a robot not a human, humans' who watch the film will be ok with
it.

That's all i can come up with and it certainly doesn't explain the lack of a
valley effect in movies like The Incredibles.

Jesse

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Jon Lee <synthwolf at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just returned from seeing Wall-E, and the thought crossed my mind... how
> do the animators at Pixar avoid the "uncanny valley" effect so prevalent
> with the 3D or "follow-me" eyes in fursuit head?  (link here for an
> explanation of the uncanny valley, if you're not familiar with the concept:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley)  Especially with a robot
> character such as Wall-E, it could be easy to run into the uncanny valley.
> Wall-E's eyes are partly sunken into his well, not his head, but into his
> camera-thingy, and covering that is an outer lens, which conveys some of the
> sparkle seen in a human or animal eye.  Extending this to suit heads, could
> a similar arrangement be used with 3D eyes (with the pupil and iris sunken
> back as usual, but a "lens", of plastic or what have you), or has something
> along those lines already been done or attempted?
>
> --Synth
>
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From scousins at blueyonder.co.uk  Wed Jul  2 13:46:02 2008
From: scousins at blueyonder.co.uk (David Cousins)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:46:02 +0100
Subject: FL: A Dragon finished again
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Props to you, that really is a good dragon :)

-Skie

-----Original Message-----
From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
[mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Markus
Kalkbrenner - Maskottchen Germany
Sent: 02 July 2008 08:28 AM
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Subject: FL: A Dragon finished again

Hi Folks,

here a bit of an update about my last works.

A dragon indeed a english dragon (gone to a pomi)

Here some Pics:

Unfortunately the color of the dragon rocks any digicam.

www.atalon.de/Anthrocreations/CurrentCostumes/DRagonSeawther/Complete/Dragon
_FIN_14.jpg

www.atalon.de/Anthrocreations/CurrentCostumes/DRagonSeawther/Complete/Dragon
_FIN_11.jpg

Hugs

Atalon the Deer.

PS: I will host a SIG on Eurofurence and my new Commission pages up in
August so far the folders will do the job.

www.anthrocreations.com










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From antimon at earthlink.net  Thu Jul  3 10:57:30 2008
From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:57:30 -0400
Subject: FL: Wall-E and Fursuit Eyes... hmm...
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the difficulty is doing it so they dont fog up.  But that does help the effect and avoid some fo the issues yes
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jon Lee 
  To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org 
  Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:23 AM
  Subject: FL: Wall-E and Fursuit Eyes... hmm...


  I just returned from seeing Wall-E, and the thought crossed my mind... how do the animators at Pixar avoid the "uncanny valley" effect so prevalent with the 3D or "follow-me" eyes in fursuit head?  (link here for an explanation of the uncanny valley, if you're not familiar with the concept: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley)  Especially with a robot character such as Wall-E, it could be easy to run into the uncanny valley.  Wall-E's eyes are partly sunken into his well, not his head, but into his camera-thingy, and covering that is an outer lens, which conveys some of the sparkle seen in a human or animal eye.  Extending this to suit heads, could a similar arrangement be used with 3D eyes (with the pupil and iris sunken back as usual, but a "lens", of plastic or what have you), or has something along those lines already been done or attempted?

  --Synth



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From schneidsky at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  3 17:00:36 2008
From: schneidsky at yahoo.com (Adam Schneider)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:00:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Wall-E and Fursuit Eyes... hmm...
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I would have to say that the 'uncanny valley' response is not illicited by Wall-E due to the fact that he is clearly robotic in nature.? His shape and form are far from human, so even though we may project our emotions onto him and empathize with his efforts, he is still very clearly robotic in nature.? Therefore, we aren't threatened by his human-like characteristics.? It's kind of like the Brave Little Toaster.
?
As for the follow me eyes, I haven't seen any in use yet, but I have seen them in haunted houses and such and can understand if they make some people uneasy.? Perhaps you could add something else to draw attention away from the eyes?? If the eyes are very large and prominent I would bet the following effect is heightened and subsequently more unsettling.
?
Good luck!
- Duke :3

--- On Thu, 7/3/08, fox kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz> wrote:

From: fox kinsman <fox at flyingfox.biz>
Subject: Re: FL: Wall-E and Fursuit Eyes... hmm...
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 7:46 AM


I've felt this uncanny valley thing before too lol -I think that our "toonyness" factor in the fursuit database search is an indication of it also. ?It's sorta like the more realistic the fursuit, the less likely you are to evoke an "awww you made him cry" or such response from people when interacting but then again the more realistic suits seem not generally used for those public entertainment purposes but are a helluva lot more impressive at fur cons ;)
I had lots of friends say they get the creeps from the follow-me eyes when I was building Scape (I really dig them though;) so I made them slight and they turned out ok. -Jeeze along those lines, people get creeped out by goat and horse eyes in general so that was a bit of a challenge too.
Anyways -North puppy has really cool eyes that have that?shiny?reflective look. ?It seems you could get that effect if you used lenses from some form of eye protection -would want to make sure whatever plastic you use is made specifically for vision though since it is hard enough to see through?buckram?fursuit eyes as it is lol


Scape













On Jul 3, 2008, at 2:23 AM, Jon Lee wrote:
I just returned from seeing Wall-E, and the thought crossed my mind... how do the animators at Pixar avoid the "uncanny valley" effect so prevalent with the 3D or "follow-me" eyes in fursuit head?? (link here for an explanation of the uncanny valley, if you're not familiar with the concept: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley)? Especially with a robot character such as Wall-E, it could be easy to run into the uncanny valley.? Wall-E's eyes are partly sunken into his well, not his head, but into his camera-thingy, and covering that is an outer lens, which conveys some of the sparkle seen in a human or animal eye.? Extending this to suit heads, could a similar arrangement be used with 3D eyes (with the pupil and iris sunken back as usual, but a "lens", of plastic or what have you), or has something along those lines already been done or attempted?

--Synth

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From superhedgie at googlemail.com  Thu Jul  3 18:34:09 2008
From: superhedgie at googlemail.com (Super BH)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 23:34:09 +0100
Subject: FL: Wall-E and Fursuit Eyes... hmm...
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I think due to the fact that The Incredibles were superheroes, and therefore disliked and distanced from non-superhumans in the film, helps to remove the valley effect. Also, Pixar always makes their characters extremely off the wall and exagerated. Mr Incredible's chin for example. 

The Hedgie

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I think the fact that character's in pixar films like wall-e and toy story don't think they are human to a high degree helps mitigate any effects that the uncanny valley may produce.  ie: because wall-e recognizes that he himself is a robot not a human, humans' who watch the film will be ok with it.

That's all i can come up with and it certainly doesn't explain the lack of a valley effect in movies like The Incredibles.

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From fuzzyroo at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 19:13:28 2008
From: fuzzyroo at gmail.com (Lucus Rocket)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 18:13:28 -0500
Subject: FL: Wall-E and Fursuit Eyes... hmm...
In-Reply-To: <003d01c8dd5c$e9f18b30$4201a8c0@NoobSaibot>
References: <60e717ff0807022323g2950c957t75f9bc565c568412@mail.gmail.com>
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*

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Super BH <superhedgie at googlemail.com> wrote:
> I think due to the fact that The Incredibles were superheroes, and therefore
> disliked and distanced from non-superhumans in the film, helps to remove the
> valley effect. Also, Pixar always makes their characters extremely off the
> wall and exagerated. Mr Incredible's chin for example.
>
> The Hedgie
>
> -----------------------------------------
>
> I think the fact that character's in pixar films like wall-e and toy story
> don't think they are human to a high degree helps mitigate any effects that
> the uncanny valley may produce.  ie: because wall-e recognizes that he
> himself is a robot not a human, humans' who watch the film will be ok with
> it.
>
> That's all i can come up with and it certainly doesn't explain the lack of a
> valley effect in movies like The Incredibles.
>
> Jesse
>
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From fuzzyroo at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 19:14:28 2008
From: fuzzyroo at gmail.com (Lucus Rocket)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 18:14:28 -0500
Subject: FL: Wall-E and Fursuit Eyes... hmm...
In-Reply-To: <186b03790807031613m2a8a7971ga0ebacd04874793d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <60e717ff0807022323g2950c957t75f9bc565c568412@mail.gmail.com>
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	<003d01c8dd5c$e9f18b30$4201a8c0@NoobSaibot>
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I think  a great deal comes from the actual positioning of the eyes as well.

alot of the newer fursuits that have the "3d" eyes tend to come out
abit "crossied" in expression..and that can add to the "oddness"

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Lucus Rocket <fuzzyroo at gmail.com> wrote:
> *
>
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Super BH <superhedgie at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> I think due to the fact that The Incredibles were superheroes, and therefore
>> disliked and distanced from non-superhumans in the film, helps to remove the
>> valley effect. Also, Pixar always makes their characters extremely off the
>> wall and exagerated. Mr Incredible's chin for example.
>>
>> The Hedgie
>>
>> -----------------------------------------
>>
>> I think the fact that character's in pixar films like wall-e and toy story
>> don't think they are human to a high degree helps mitigate any effects that
>> the uncanny valley may produce.  ie: because wall-e recognizes that he
>> himself is a robot not a human, humans' who watch the film will be ok with
>> it.
>>
>> That's all i can come up with and it certainly doesn't explain the lack of a
>> valley effect in movies like The Incredibles.
>>
>> Jesse
>>
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From bob at ginkosoft.com  Thu Jul  3 22:13:55 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:13:55 -0700
Subject: FL: Wall-E and Fursuit Eyes... hmm...
In-Reply-To: <17c400530807030627p2b9156d9wea8cb68d8f4bd344@mail.gmail.com>
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	<1215113307.FB74B6C@dg12.dngr.org>
	<1215114186.284023EC@gf27.dngr.org>
	<1215121071.2BD9B9C8@bi12.dngr.org>
	<1215131385.2A325207@bc12.dngr.org>
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> That's all i can come up with and it certainly doesn't explain the lack 
> of a valley effect in movies like The Incredibles.

The first reason is that, visually, the Incredibles aren't human-like 
enough to be in the valley. Think about body proportions, skin texture, 
movements, and actions. They're exagerated intentionally to stay away 
from the valley. Imagine their costumes at Disney. Would they be the 
clothes+makeup of Snow White or Captain Jack Sparrow, or a full-body 
deal like Mickey Mouse or the dwarves?

Skin texture is a biggie. In the commentary of Shrek, they actually did 
get a perfect recreation of human skin (which is partially translucent 
in layers) for Princess Fiona, but backed away from it to keep things 
more toony.

None of this, however, is the issue with Wall-E, because he's nowhere 
near resembling an undead corpse (almost fully human and in the middle 
of the valley)

The other issue is posture and body language. Imagine if Mr. Incredible 
walked like a marionette, legs moving independant of the rest of the 
body. Part of what makes zombies creepy is that they move in a way that 
they (Ie, human beings) typically don't. Pixar's good about making the 
characters move 'naturally'.

(A recent article discusses the body language they worked out for 
Wall-E, as well as body language of the camera among other things. [ 
http://mag.awn.com/?ltype=pageone&article_no=3682 ] )

In the case of recessed eyes, I figure it's a case of 'tracking'. 
Imagine someone looking straight ahead all the time. Kinda creepy, 
unless mitigated by body language. That's with no recessing.

But what's also creepy is someone that stares straight at you no matter 
where they're facing. That's with the eyes fully recessed like on the 
inside of a sphere.

So with the eyes only slightly recessed, it's not a full-on stare, but 
does have some tracking. Of course, a disembodied head in general is 
also kind of creepy, but that's where the performer comes in. The same 
costume can be creepy or fun depending on if the character is moving 
appropriately.

Wow, was I long-winded. But does that make sense?

--BobCoon

From fuzzyroo at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 23:25:35 2008
From: fuzzyroo at gmail.com (Lucus Rocket)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:25:35 -0500
Subject: FL: Wall-E and Fursuit Eyes... hmm...
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	<1215113307.FB74B6C@dg12.dngr.org> <1215114186.284023EC@gf27.dngr.org>
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boiled down:
"you are not a robot.  Do things, don't just stand there.  Have good
body language. And finally, don't be creepy."

From zennoa at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 23:56:18 2008
From: zennoa at gmail.com (zennoa at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:56:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Wall-E and Fursuit Eyes... hmm...
Message-ID: <486d9f62.27ed720a.5ad2.fffff0c1@mx.google.com>

So... Doesn't Johnny 5 fit most of that?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:26:10 pm
To: "Bob Bauhaus" <bob at ginkosoft.com>,fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
From: "Lucus Rocket" <fuzzyroo at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: FL: Wall-E and Fursuit Eyes... hmm...

boiled down:

"you are not a robot.  Do things, don't just stand there.  Have good

body language. And finally, don't be creepy."

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From zennoa at gmail.com  Fri Jul  4 04:32:51 2008
From: zennoa at gmail.com (zennoa at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:32:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Wall-E and Fursuit Eyes... hmm...
Message-ID: <486de033.19bd720a.42b3.03de@mx.google.com>

So... Doesn't Johnny 5 fit most of that?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:26:10 pm
To: "Bob Bauhaus" <bob at ginkosoft.com>,fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
From: "Lucus Rocket" <fuzzyroo at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: FL: Wall-E and Fursuit Eyes... hmm...

boiled down:

"you are not a robot.  Do things, don't just stand there.  Have good

body language. And finally, don't be creepy."

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From mrbunny at mr-bunny.com  Mon Jul  7 00:09:15 2008
From: mrbunny at mr-bunny.com (Bunny)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 21:09:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Looking to commission a fursuit
Message-ID: <915272.53073.qm@web56606.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

OK im upset.
well, more like annoyed.
ok... impatient. fine? lol

I emailed MixedCandy.com on July 1st at 7am.
The day their web site said they were opening their doors again.
I got 1 email saying they could not do silver fur, only grey.
I immediately replied another idea of lightly airbrushing silver over a Lt. grey fur.
I just got a response of "We are currently closed for commission. But we will re-open October 2008 to fill our January-March 2010 completion spots. If you are still interested email us in October."
?
I know.
Anything can happen in life.
But it's not like they are the only fursuit maker.
And i'm ready to have it started now.
?
So are there any other web site suggestions for a commission from pro-sketches?
Quaylak did a fantastic job!!!

Any 1st hand testimonials with pics?
?
Just as mixedcandy has their payment policy
I am ready to pay 1/3 (via paypal) of anywhere between $2000 & $3000
?
only location I have the image online right now is here:
http://xae.xanga.com/3d1c74f737733189791720/z146015428.jpg
posted it on a message board a bit ago to show people.
otherwise, the full 5mb image can be immediately emailed
?
Anyone on the list here up for it?
Do they make silver fur?
PS: this may get double posted. sorry.
I forgot which email was associated with the list.
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From Hoof-Hearted at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jul  7 00:51:07 2008
From: Hoof-Hearted at sbcglobal.net (Hoof-Hearted at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 21:51:07 -0700
Subject: FL: Looking to commission a fursuit
In-Reply-To: <915272.53073.qm@web56606.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <915272.53073.qm@web56606.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <26F3B1A0-29FF-4A9A-AE91-C30F337B2F12@sbcglobal.net>

You should try FurHappens.com they are personal friends and make great  
fursuits.

- Hoof

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 6, 2008, at 9:09 PM, Bunny <mrbunny at mr-bunny.com> wrote:

> OK im upset.
> well, more like annoyed.
> ok... impatient. fine? lol
>
> I emailed MixedCandy.com on July 1st at 7am.
> The day their web site said they were opening their doors again.
> I got 1 email saying they could not do silver fur, only grey.
> I immediately replied another idea of lightly airbrushing silver  
> over a Lt. grey fur.
> I just got a response of "We are currently closed for commission.  
> But we will re-open October 2008 to fill our January-March 2010  
> completion spots. If you are still interested email us in October."
>
> I know.
> Anything can happen in life.
> But it's not like they are the only fursuit maker.
> And i'm ready to have it started now.
>
> So are there any other web site suggestions for a commission from  
> pro-sketches?
> Quaylak did a fantastic job!!!
>
> Any 1st hand testimonials with pics?
>
> Just as mixedcandy has their payment policy
> I am ready to pay 1/3 (via paypal) of anywhere between $2000 & $3000
>
> only location I have the image online right now is here:
> http://xae.xanga.com/3d1c74f737733189791720/z146015428.jpg
> posted it on a message board a bit ago to show people.
> otherwise, the full 5mb image can be immediately emailed
>
> Anyone on the list here up for it?
> Do they make silver fur?
>
> PS: this may get double posted. sorry.
> I forgot which email was associated with the list.
> _______________________________________________
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From esuterure2006 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  7 01:16:36 2008
From: esuterure2006 at yahoo.com (MECHELLE FREDERICK)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 22:16:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Looking to commission a fursuit
In-Reply-To: <26F3B1A0-29FF-4A9A-AE91-C30F337B2F12@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <476605.21155.qm@web55307.mail.re4.yahoo.com>



You should check out fenrir productions,she once made a silver fox,on this years april fools day,plus her suits are cheaper and of very goog quality,she is open for commissions,go an ask,check out her stuff,she does toony,semi toony,semi realistic,and reallistic suits.Me'chelle soon to be a wolf


      
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From fenrysstar at aol.com  Mon Jul  7 01:17:28 2008
From: fenrysstar at aol.com (fenrysstar at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:17:28 -0400
Subject: FL: Looking to commission a fursuit
In-Reply-To: <915272.53073.qm@web56606.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <915272.53073.qm@web56606.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CAAE07E28C78DC-530-3711@MBLK-M05.sysops.aol.com>


 I have similar thoughts about Luskwood.org? as I had some of their Avatars on Second Life and would like to commission one from them based on one of the AVs I had. Especially a Shadow Jogauni. 


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bunny <mrbunny at mr-bunny.com>
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Sent: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:09 am
Subject: FL: Looking to commission a fursuit











OK im upset.








well, more like annoyed.


ok... impatient. fine? lol



I emailed MixedCandy.com on July 1st at 7am.
The day their web site said they were opening their doors again.
I got 1 email saying they could not do silver fur, only grey.
I immediately replied another idea of lightly airbrushing silver over a Lt. grey fur.
I just got a response of "We are currently closed for commission. But we will re-open October 2008 to fill our January-March 2010 completion spots. If you are still interested email us in October."


?


I know.


Anything can happen in life.


But it's not like they are the only fursuit maker.


And i'm ready to have it started now.


?


So are there any other web site suggestions for a commission from pro-sketches?


Quaylak did a fantastic job!!!



Any 1st hand testimonials with pics?


?


Just as mixedcandy has their payment policy
I am ready to pay 1/3 (via paypal) of anywhere between $2000 & $3000


?


only location I have the image online right now is here:


http://xae.xanga.com/3d1c74f737733189791720/z146015428.jpg


posted it on a message board a bit ago to show people.


otherwise, the full 5mb image can be immediately emailed


?


Anyone on the list here up for it?


Do they make silver fur?


?


PS: this may get double posted. sorry.


I forgot which email was associated with the list.





 





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From bob at ginkosoft.com  Mon Jul  7 01:24:38 2008
From: bob at ginkosoft.com (Bob Bauhaus)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 22:24:38 -0700
Subject: FL: Looking to commission a fursuit
In-Reply-To: <915272.53073.qm@web56606.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <915272.53073.qm@web56606.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1215408281.2737639B@bi5.dngr.org>

> I immediately replied another idea of lightly airbrushing silver over a 
> Lt. grey fur.

I would suggest against airbrushing silver over grey as it could be work 
intensive, and it might be better to just buy and supply the material. 
I'm not sure if such fur is made, or how expensive it is, but it's worth 
researching. Your mileage may vary.

> So are there any other web site suggestions for a commission from 
> pro-sketches?

The one I've been pointed to is FursuitAuctions on LJ. But you'll 
probably also get some good suggestions here from the makers 
themselves.

> only location I have the image online right now is here:
>
> http://xae.xanga.com/3d1c74f737733189791720/z146015428.jpg

I hate to ask this, but is the watermarking really necessary? To those 
who simply want to view it, it's insulting to treat us like copyright 
infringers. To anyone who would want to use the costume idea, the 
watermark doesn't stop them from "Silver vixen with blond hair".

Other things you might want to consider is how you want things like 
digigrade legs designed, since there's a lot of tradeoffs in turning a 
drawing into something actually wearable.

Hope this helps.

--BobCoon.

From raiderwolf22 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  7 05:10:16 2008
From: raiderwolf22 at yahoo.com (Raider Wolf)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 02:10:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FL: Looking to commission a fursuit
In-Reply-To: <915272.53073.qm@web56606.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <12978.86134.qm@web46001.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>


?Hello, I would suggest www.furrhappens.com also. I just got s black and silver wolf from them and the silver on it looks great. The silver were only highlights to certain parts of the suit, but I like the way they did it and I premeiered it at AC this year. Raider. 

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Bunny <mrbunny at mr-bunny.com> wrote:

From: Bunny <mrbunny at mr-bunny.com>
Subject: FL: Looking to commission a fursuit
To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 4:09 AM






OK im upset.



well, more like annoyed.
ok... impatient. fine? lol

I emailed MixedCandy.com on July 1st at 7am.
The day their web site said they were opening their doors again.
I got 1 email saying they could not do silver fur, only grey.
I immediately replied another idea of lightly airbrushing silver over a Lt. grey fur.
I just got a response of "We are currently closed for commission. But we will re-open October 2008 to fill our January-March 2010 completion spots. If you are still interested email us in October."
?
I know.
Anything can happen in life.
But it's not like they are the only fursuit maker.
And i'm ready to have it started now.
?
So are there any other web site suggestions for a commission from pro-sketches?
Quaylak did a fantastic job!!!

Any 1st hand testimonials with pics?
?
Just as mixedcandy has their payment policy
I am ready to pay 1/3 (via paypal) of anywhere between $2000 & $3000
?
only location I have the image online right now is here:
http://xae.xanga.com/3d1c74f737733189791720/z146015428.jpg
posted it on a message board a bit ago to show people.
otherwise, the full 5mb image can be immediately emailed
?
Anyone on the list here up for it?
Do they make silver fur?
?
PS: this may get double posted. sorry.
I forgot which email was associated with the list._______________________________________________
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From foxwolfac at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 13:40:59 2008
From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:40:59 -0400
Subject: FL: Looking to commission a fursuit
In-Reply-To: <12978.86134.qm@web46001.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <915272.53073.qm@web56606.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<12978.86134.qm@web46001.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <577261b40807071040h7be90c39uca126e5f7db62c6d@mail.gmail.com>

I would suggest looking at Joecifur at http://b3mascots.com Joecifur is a
cool guy.  His suits are toony and an excellent process at a great price.
He is filled up through March 2009 though, so if you want a suit from him,
email him and he may be able to put you on his list.

-Foxwolf 9-Tails
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From marcwolf at marcwolf.org  Sat Jul 12 08:55:29 2008
From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (David Boccabella)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:55:29 +1000
Subject: FL: New Fursuit
In-Reply-To: <1214623123.386AD0D0@dc7.dngr.org>
Message-ID: <OMEIJPJAFKIANLCOEJOIEEDCGMAA.marcwolf@marcwolf.org>


Hmm..

Try an 80K AU  a year  Web Programmer.

Of course - working 50 hours a week does not leave much time for fursuiting
:>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org
> [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of Bob Bauhaus
> Sent: Saturday, 28 June 2008 13:19
> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org
> Subject: Re: FL: New Fursuit
>
>
> I used to drive a tow truck, and I know another raccoon who drove a big
> rig.
>
> Now, what would be really surprising would be, like, an exec of a
> fortune 500 company or a high-profile politician. Although they would be
> able to buy a really high quality costume then...
>
> On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:24, Mike Johnson wrote:
> > I work in manufacturing myself. :)
> >
> > Wildfox
> > http://www.chameleon.net/~wildfox/index.htm
> >
> > On 6/27/08, Johara Saluki <furrycouple at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>  A furry trucker....a furry equipment operator (me)....I wonder how
> >> many of
> >>  us work in these fields. Most that I know are computer nerds, I don't
> >> know
> >>  any who are in construction.
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> No virus found in