From jambrassard at earthlink.net Sat Jan 2 16:25:04 2010 From: jambrassard at earthlink.net (Michel Brassard) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 16:25:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: FL: Latex Critters Message-ID: <7742585.1262467504836.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> It's just a single picture, but I'm rather pleased with it. At MFF 2009, SpOrk and I posed for this picture in our full latex suits. I am the one wearing the Blackstyle dog hood and SpOrk is wearing the feline gas mask. I hope to eventually load up more pictures along with more yiffy pine marten photos as well in this coming year. http://fyldata.timduru.org/view/Pictures/TravisSebastian/Latex,100_0950.JPG Travis Sebastian. From fuzzyroo at gmail.com Sat Jan 2 16:42:46 2010 From: fuzzyroo at gmail.com (Lucus Rocket) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:42:46 -0600 Subject: FL: Latex Critters In-Reply-To: <7742585.1262467504836.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <7742585.1262467504836.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <186b03791001021342r2d4fb075gf9c89cc3e0ddb728@mail.gmail.com> *mrrrrrs* that's so awesome On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Michel Brassard wrote: > It's just a single picture, but I'm rather pleased with it. At MFF 2009, > SpOrk and I posed for this picture in our full latex suits. I am the one > wearing the Blackstyle dog hood and SpOrk is wearing the feline gas mask. 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URL: From frysco-sender-6f5fe9 at gryphonic.org Fri Jan 15 14:49:31 2010 From: frysco-sender-6f5fe9 at gryphonic.org (Francisco Azinsan) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:49:31 -0600 Subject: FL: Furly Edition Zero - The digital edition (FC2010 pre-con newsletter) Message-ID: <20100115194931.GA69588@critter.net> Table of Contents: 1. Gold Strike at Further Confusion 2010! 2. Important information for Debit Cards users 3. Parking 4. Hotel Map and Surrounding Area Map 5. Hotel Door Sign and Foam Core Display Surfaces 6. Fairmont Restaurant Discount Card 7. Star Trek at TheTech - Discount 8. myFurCon 9. Twitter 10. Laptop Warning! 11. Internet in the Hotel Rooms and Event areas 12. Self Serve Registration 13. Important Times 14. Preliminary Schedule and Important Times 15. Signup Events 16. Fursuit Lounge 17. Fursuit Parade 18. Con Ops 19. Final Staff Meeting 20. Bag Stuffing Party! 21. Weather Report 22. Patron and Sponsor Gifts 23. Avoid the Flu! 24. AAE Announcements after Furry Night Live 25. FC2011 GOH Announcement 1. Gold Strike at Further Confusion 2010! It's true ladies and gents. I saw the first nuggets today and I assayed them as genuine gold nuggets from the strike area in Northern California. It has been said that the first 3000 Argonauts who manage to make it to Further Confusion 2010, even as a mere attendee, will get a sample from their claim. Now you folks know that a good claim is worth more than stock in the Pacific Union Railway, but many of those are just dead end tracks. Be sure and check your tailings bag you will receive at Registration. Most will sadly just have the illusion of Fools Gold, but for 30 lucky claim owners, their bags will contain a genuine Northern California Gold nugget of approximately 1 g. and worth significantly more than the cost of registration of their claim. Hotel News 2. Important information for Debit Cards users Earlier this year there was some confusion about Hotel Incidental Room Charges. We are restating that information here to help make sure everyone knows what to expect. This is NOT not a charge, it's a pre-authorization request in the amount of $100 for incidental costs or damage and it is a one time request, not cumulative. The hotel requests from your credit card company that if they need to, that they can charge the $100 in case you damage the hotel, make long distance phone calls, watch a pay movie, etc. When you use a normal credit card upon check-in. this pre-authorization normally expires approximately 7-10 days after you check out. However, when you use a debit card to check in, it MAY appear that that $100 is not available to you in cash until the charge eventually clears after con. This is the way almost all hotels operate. We would suggest that you do not use a debit card to check-in to your hotel room or any hotel room unless you absolutely have too. When you use a credit card you have additional legal protections that do not apply to debit cards. If you do have to use one be sure to check with your bank beforehand to know how they handle that type of pre-authorization with debit cards. 3. Parking Parking for FC2010 can be really cheap, or even free! This all depends on your arrival and departure times and careful examination of the fee and time schedules for the public parking lots. For example, the Pavilion Parking Garage on 150 S. Second Street in San Jose is the closest (directly across the street) and one of the cheapest parking garages. See for more information. 4. Hotel Map and Surrounding Area Map We have a map of the hotel here: Map of the surrounding area 5. Hotel Door Sign and Foam Core Display Surfaces The Fairmont does not allow signs to be attached to the doors of the hotel. There are dealers in the Dealers Den that will happily sell you a door hanger sign. Additionally, the con has provided eight foam-core display surfaces that will be placed all around the hotel that can be used to display signs for room parties, announcements, etc. Please do deface the signs and used the blue painters tape to attach signs to the foam core boards. 6. Fairmont Restaurant Discount Card At check-in, the hotel will be distributing discount cards for the Fountain and Pagoda restaurants in the hotel. If there are multiple people staying in the room, please ask for one card per guest. The discounts at these two restaurants are: 20% for breakfast 20% for lunch 10% for dinner Cards must be redeemed with your bill on a single-person basis, meaning you do not get 20% off the table's total bill, only for the cardholder. The easiest way to make this simple is to request separate bills for everyone at the table, then each person use their card for their bill. Might be a little clunky, but hey, it's a discount. Eat up! Very Happy 7. Star Trek at TheTech - Discount This winter Furry Star Trek fans can bask in the awe of fan geekery to the extreme with Furries on one side of the street and all that is Trekkie on the other. TheTech Museum of Innovation in San Jose has extended attendees of Further Confusion a discount of at least 20% on tickets to TheTech when purchased online. TheTech is located directly across the street from the beautiful Fairmont Hotel in San Jose. To purchase tickets with the FurCon discount you must register with TheTech Museum online at: Enter Promo Code - FURCON PLEASE NOTE: No masks or Fursuit Heads are to be worn at TheTech for safety and other reasons. (Yes, we asked. They said no.) Thank you for your assimilation. IT News 8. myFurCon Further Confusion is pleased to present the announcement of a new website. In partnership with FurSpots.com, we bring to you myFurCon. You can reach this service via or myFurCon allows you to sign up for a free account and with that account you can: - Have access to the Further Confusion Schedule, as the myFurCon site pulls the info for the events from our events server. So this site, along with our web page, has the most up to date information on the schedule of events. - Create and Share your schedule. myFurCon allows you to create your own schedule once you log in. Simply click on the Events tab after you log in and you can see the schedule of Events by day or Track. You can also add friends and share your schedule with your friends. - Post events. Have a room party? Want to get word out on Meet up for DS users? Or Huskies? Or whatever? You can use myFurCon to post that event and have others see it (Note that events that get posted have a wide variety of privacy options) - Send messages to your friends. - Follow myFurCon on Twitter. myFurCon will post updates to the schedule of events to a Twitter account. - Get updated Con News. If you do find a bug, have feedback or any questions, please email myFurCon(at)furtherconfusion(dot)org. A primary purpose in undertaking this project is to help develop an open standard method and eventual API by which schedule information from conventions can be shared with any interested parties and organizations. We anticipate expanding this program to other groups and sites in future years. If your group is interested in helping with that project, please contact FC via its regular course of contact. 9. Twitter After the release of this newsletter any schedule changes that need to be made or any information we need to delivered will be posted to our Twitter account. In addition, such information will be posted at the Info Desk 10. Laptop Warning! Please remember that Hotel Wireless Access Points are often prime territory for Security Issues. If you are traveling with a laptop or PC, please be sure to turn off all shares and minimize security risks to protect yourself and your property. Furthermore, if traveling internationally with a laptop of other electronic mass storage device, please be aware that Customs and Homeland Security may have the right to inspect such devices. We personally recommend that if traveling internationally with a laptop or other PC that it be scrubbed of any confidential data before such travel. 11. Internet in the Hotel Rooms and Event areas A reminder for those who have booked rooms at the Fairmont. Be sure to join Fairmont's President's Club. There are many benefits including express check-in, free local calls, and perhaps most importantly, complimentary in-room Internet. Enrollment is free. Follow this link to sign up. Also, the hotel is providing free Wi-Fi access on the Second Floor where all the events are happening. We ask that people use common curiosity in accessing the free Wi-Fi as a number of people need to have access to the Internet and we are expecting a lot of people trying to use the Wi-Fi at one time. The number of active connections at one time is not unlimited. If you are not using your device, please disconnect it from the Wi-Fi. 12. Self Serve Registration We have expanded the pilot project we ran last year and have added some additional computer to our self-serve registration area Events News 13. Important Times These times may also be found on our website at 14. Preliminary Schedule and Important Times There are always last minute changes, but we have our schedule pretty well locked down by now. This can be found online at: 15. Signup Events The following events are of limited capacity and require signs ups. - Critterlympics - Saturday at noon at the info desk. It'll be indoors on Main Stage, so we might have to limit participation. On the other hand, we will not rain-out. If you don't make it to the sign-up, you might not get in. - KaffeeKlatches - Sign up sheets will be at the info desk. - Gaming - Any tournament gaming event, please see staff in the Gaming Room. - Masquerade Sign ups Friday Crystal Room 5:00pm - 6:30pm Saturday Empire Room 10:00am - 12:30pm Masquerade Director's room (TBA) 3:00pm - 4:30pm - Masquerade Judging. Friday Crystal Room 5:00pm - 6:30pm Saturday Empire Room 10:00am - 12:30pm Masquerade Rehearsal 5:30pm - 7:00pm Main Stage You must sign up before being Judged and Judging will take place in both the Empire and Crystal rooms at the times and days indicated above as well as at the masquerade rehearsal. 16. Fursuit Lounge The Fursuit Lounge folks wish to remind those in fursuit that the Fursuit Lounge will be located in the Garden Room Friday, Saturday, Sunday for a limited time on Monday. 17. Fursuit Parade Fursuit Parade will meet in the Imperial Ballroom (Main Stage) on Saturday beginning at 1:00pm with a 2:00pm step-off time. If you want to be in the Fursuit Parade, get there early. The mass fursuit photo-shoot will take place outside at the conclusion of the parade at the Plaza De Cesar Chavez, near the middle of the park. Operations News 18. Con Ops Con Ops will be located in the Hillsborough Room, near Registration. This is in the Annex Tower. 19. Final Staff Meeting Our next and final staff meeting will be January 16th starting at 1:00pm at the Fairmont Hotel. This is the LAST meeting before the convention starts on January 21st. 20. Bag Stuffing Party! On the evening of Wednesday, January 20th at 7:00pm, in the San Simeon room at the Fairmont Hotel, we will be stuffing the goodie bags for FC2010. If you have something that you want to have put in our bags, please bring them to this room. We can accept flyers for other cons, ads for web pages, or any other flyers. Please note that the material must nothing above a PG rating, and whatever it is you want to put into the bags, you need 3,500 of them, as we will be stuffing 3,500 bags. 21. Weather Report It looks like we should be fine on move-in, but there is a possible chance of rain later on during the weekend. Be sure to check the forecast prior to departing for the con. 22. Patron and Sponsor Gifts If you are a Patron or Sponsor, do not forget to pick up your Patron or Sponsor gifts at the FC Con Store. We will be posting some sneak preview pictures of these gifts soon to our LiveJournal community. 23. Avoid the Flu! With flu season upon us, your chances of getting sick this winter are pretty good. To help you combat various bugs, here's information and FAQs: The Centers for Disease Control recommends washing your hands often with soap and water, as well as covering your mouth when coughing and sneezing, as effective ways to prevent the spread of the disease. We'll have hand sanitizer stations around the con as well but the best thing you can do is stay fed, stay rested, and stay alert. Take care of yourself...and take care of others if they are ill. We are a community, so lets act like it. If you need medical attention, you should either report to Con-Ops or Flare and they can help you get to local medical needs. Many thanks and best wishes for a happy healthy convention. AAE News 24. AAE Announcements after Furry Night Live We've got some big news already ready to announce for 2011. Please join The Chairman of FC2010 at the conclusion of Furry Night Live on Sunday night where you will have the chance to meet the Chairman of FC2011. 25. FC2011 GOH Announcement If you pay attention to the programming listings and to the gorgeous piece of art gracing the back inside cover of our Convention Book this year. You might be able to catch a clue as to the first major announcement from FC2011. If not, well, come to the FNL where you can here it from the new Chair himself. Either way, AAE is glad to have the persons of one name and even more glad they have agreed to give our attendees a "in progress" look at whats sure to be one of the major events in fandom next year. -- Further Confusion info at furtherconfusion.org From lexincanada at yahoo.co.uk Sat Jan 30 00:39:56 2010 From: lexincanada at yahoo.co.uk (Lex Rudd) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 05:39:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: FL: Latex Critters In-Reply-To: <7742585.1262467504836.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <979424.3468.qm@web24707.mail.ird.yahoo.com> How do you view them? ?Seems to be password protected? ??- Red --- On Sat, 2/1/10, Michel Brassard wrote: From: Michel Brassard Subject: FL: Latex Critters To: "fursuit-list at fursuit.org" Date: Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 21:25 It's? just a single picture, but I'm rather pleased with it.? At MFF 2009, SpOrk and I posed for this picture in our full latex suits.? I am the one wearing the Blackstyle dog hood and SpOrk is wearing the feline gas mask.? I hope to eventually load up more pictures along with more yiffy pine marten photos as well in this coming year. http://fyldata.timduru.org/view/Pictures/TravisSebastian/Latex,100_0950.JPG Travis Sebastian. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adam453 at gmail.com Sat Jan 30 15:27:34 2010 From: adam453 at gmail.com (Adam Robertson) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:27:34 -0600 Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 45, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5214be141001301227i51ac36by5b75f2ba313aa1a7@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, same here. Hope that gets fixed. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 11:00 AM, wrote: > Send Fursuit-list mailing list submissions to > fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fursuit-list-request at lists.fursuit.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fursuit-list-owner at lists.fursuit.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fursuit-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Latex Critters (Lex Rudd) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 05:39:56 +0000 (GMT) > From: Lex Rudd > To: Michel Brassard , > fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > Subject: Re: FL: Latex Critters > Message-ID: <979424.3468.qm at web24707.mail.ird.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > How do you view them? ?Seems to be password protected? > ??- Red > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, Michel Brassard wrote: > > From: Michel Brassard > Subject: FL: Latex Critters > To: "fursuit-list at fursuit.org" > Date: Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 21:25 > > It's? just a single picture, but I'm rather pleased with it.? At MFF 2009, > SpOrk and I posed for this picture in our full latex suits.? I am the one > wearing the Blackstyle dog hood and SpOrk is wearing the feline gas mask.? I > hope to eventually load up more pictures along with more yiffy pine marten > photos as well in this coming year. > > http://fyldata.timduru.org/view/Pictures/TravisSebastian/Latex,100_0950.JPG > > Travis Sebastian. > > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.fursuit.org/pipermail/fursuit-list/attachments/20100130/c76f007f/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit-list mailing list > Fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > > > End of Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 45, Issue 4 > ******************************************* > -- --Adam Robertson-- (write back) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marcwolf at marcwolf.org Wed Mar 24 19:24:41 2010 From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (marcwolf.org) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 09:24:41 +1000 Subject: FL: Stretchable fur In-Reply-To: <5214be141001301227i51ac36by5b75f2ba313aa1a7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Folks I have an issue re some of the fur fabric I am working with. The plush is quite long so I hope what I am suggesting will work. The fur is glued onto the backing which soes not have much stretch to it. What I am wondering if people can offer advice. I have several solutions - all varing in complexity. 1. Glue (sew) thin strips of the fur fabric onto lycra, position in a way where the stretch will not reviel the underlying lycra. This will work well where the stretch direction will follow the lay of the fur. 2. Dissolve the fur binding glue with acetone and re glue it onto a silicone or similar backing - this will allow stretching in both directions. 3. Fur punching onto silicone - very labor intensive. Any other suggestions folks. An examample of what I need this for is the fur on the skull around the movable ears. So when the ear swivel back the fur can stretch easily. Many thanks Dave a.k.a. Marcwolf p.s. Excuse typing - on slow RDP connection to desktop -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zennoa at Gmail.com Wed Mar 24 22:20:43 2010 From: zennoa at Gmail.com (Zennoa) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:20:43 -0500 Subject: FL: Stretchable fur In-Reply-To: References: <5214be141001301227i51ac36by5b75f2ba313aa1a7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Well one thing to remember is that most kinds of fake fur are really stringey melted plastic (try hitting a scrap piece with a heat gun, you'll see). Honestly the best result is going to be fur punching. You can try affixing it to lycra but when the seam moves it will be visible, and anything you want to stretch must be pre-stretched when you sew it, otherwise the fur its self will prevent the stretch. I don't think regluing the fur is going to work. Two scenarios: One, the glue will prevent stretch. Two, the stretching action will tear the glue apart/off the silicone. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:24 PM, marcwolf.org wrote: > Hi Folks > > I have an issue re some of the fur fabric I am working with. The plush is > quite long so I hope what I am suggesting will work. > > The fur is glued onto the backing which soes not have much stretch to it. > What I am wondering if people can offer advice. > > I have several solutions - all varing in complexity. > > 1. Glue (sew) thin strips of the fur fabric onto lycra, position in a way > where the stretch will not reviel the underlying lycra. This will work well > where the stretch direction will follow the lay of the fur. > > 2. Dissolve the fur binding glue with acetone and re glue it onto a > silicone or similar backing - this will allow stretching in both directions. > > 3. Fur punching onto silicone - very labor intensive. > > Any other suggestions folks. > > An examample of what I need this for is the fur on the skull around the > movable ears. So when the ear swivel back the fur can stretch easily. > > Many thanks > > Dave a.k.a. Marcwolf > > p.s. Excuse typing - on slow RDP connection to desktop > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smorizio at hotmail.com Sat Apr 17 16:36:24 2010 From: smorizio at hotmail.com (steven morizio) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:36:24 -0400 Subject: FL: anyone see the videos of the Finnish band that wears costumes that pop up on you tube?? Message-ID: just cam across hard rock band Hevisaurusdinosaur costume on stage.. _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From moka at snowpaw.net Sat Apr 17 22:13:48 2010 From: moka at snowpaw.net (Moka Raccoon) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 19:13:48 -0700 Subject: FL: anyone see the videos of the Finnish band that wears costumes that pop up on you tube?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BCA6ADC.7000805@snowpaw.net> steven morizio wrote: > just cam across hard rock band > > > Hevisaurus > > dinosaur costume on stage.. A video from this band was the link of the day on FA for April 13: http://forums.furaffinity.net/showthread.php?t=68568 Sorta catchy, though unfortunately I wasn't able to find the lyrics online, so I have no clue what they're saying. Anybody here speak Finnish? ;) -- Moka From bakensobek at gmail.com Sat Apr 17 23:30:12 2010 From: bakensobek at gmail.com (Kaa Bakensobek) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 21:30:12 -0600 Subject: FL: anyone see the videos of the Finnish band that wears costumes that pop up on you tube?? In-Reply-To: <4BCA6ADC.7000805@snowpaw.net> References: <4BCA6ADC.7000805@snowpaw.net> Message-ID: <4BCA7CC4.7090807@gmail.com> On 04/17/2010 08:13 PM, Moka Raccoon wrote: > A video from this band was the link of the day on FA for April 13: > > http://forums.furaffinity.net/showthread.php?t=68568 > > Sorta catchy, though unfortunately I wasn't able to find the lyrics > online, so I have no clue what they're saying. Anybody here speak > Finnish? ;) > Ah, yes... Hevisaurus. From one of the many sites that mention them -- "Hevisaurus was a band made up of members from legendary band Dio and Sonata Arctica. Their goal was to record heavy metal for children. After an intense brainstorming session, someone thought of buying a bunch of dinosaur suits and the idea stuck. The music itself is in Finnish, but the lyrics usually deal with popular children?s stories and, you know, dinosaurs. Because that?s the heart of metal." They have a whole album, even -- Jurahevin Kuninkaat. I think it means "Kings of Jurassic Metal", or something like that. You can buy it from Amazon, even. I've also been looking for lyrics (with hopefully English translations) but have managed only one song so far. I can't remember how many times I've listened to their frigging album. I can't understand what the heck they are singing, but it's rather catchy. I would kill to have a gig like that. XD -- Kaa From dragon at owc.net Sun Apr 18 21:49:29 2010 From: dragon at owc.net (Firewing) Date: 19 Apr 2010 01:49:29 -0000 Subject: FL: Hevisaurus Message-ID: <4BCBBB37.4020606@owc.net> Google came across these for me: http://www.metal-archives.com/images/3/5/4/0/3540292784_photo.jpg http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540292784 I think those dinos are kinda cute. -Firewing From dragon at owc.net Mon Apr 19 01:26:26 2010 From: dragon at owc.net (Firewing) Date: 19 Apr 2010 05:26:26 -0000 Subject: FL: Hevisaurus photo links Message-ID: <4BCBEDC6.5070200@owc.net> http://www.youaintnopicasso.com/2009/10/24/hevisaurus-finland-industry-awards-gala-10-23-09/ (Second photo shows them on stage standing on a Jagermeister cloth-kinda ironic, don't you think since they are aimed towards children?) http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6IxeL1PRYH4/SvJy8vuOddI/AAAAAAAABYc/HUqyct0gtUY/s400/Hevisaurus+-+Jurahevin+Kuninkaat+by+Eneas.JPG Cartoon art of the lead singer: http://www.ippopen.net/public/kuvat/muut_kuvat/hevisaurus_iso.jpg Enjoy. -Firewing From marcwolf at marcwolf.org Thu Apr 22 03:32:15 2010 From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (marcwolf.org) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:32:15 +1000 Subject: FL: New Animatronic Tail In-Reply-To: <4BCBEDC6.5070200@owc.net> Message-ID: Hi Folks I have a video up on YouTube of my latest animatronic tail. Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZY7wMmVWnc Take Care Marcwolf From smorizio at hotmail.com Thu Apr 22 07:48:32 2010 From: smorizio at hotmail.com (steven morizio) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 07:48:32 -0400 Subject: FL: New Animatronic Tail In-Reply-To: References: <4BCBEDC6.5070200@owc.net>, Message-ID: how big of a weight can the unit move if a suiter wanted to use it on a larger dragon or dino tail?? you know if you made that use tail a little shorter you could make a remote controled face hugger. it looked like one from aliens when it was on the work bench. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blue_heel at fsun.net Mon Feb 1 17:00:32 2010 From: blue_heel at fsun.net (Doctor) Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:00:32 -0000 Subject: FL: MFM Masquarde Message-ID: <4B674D7B.3050309@fsun.net> Hello all you performing type (or want to be performers). Before you know it, MFM will be here. Now's the time to start thinking of the act you would like to perform. We will have the puppet stage set up, so we will take all the acts this year. This is in a brand new space for us, and should be Great show this year. We of course will have our sound doggy on scene, so make sure the music is on a dedicated CD or usb drive or something like that. If there's any questions about music or anything, just email me or send it from the MFM website. Plan now, and beat the rush. Especially those that like to submit music at the last moment.... (no names mentioned :) Blue -- --- Blue Heeler SunFire Im's available upon request Original member of FSUN (Furry Supporters of Universal Networks) Blue_Heel on Undernet, Anthrochat, Furnet; SPR; Tapestries; FurryMuck Rye on Meadows MUCK Furry Writer, art collector, Stage Ninja http://www.fsun.net/blue_heel Furry Code Avaliable upon Request From blue_heel at fsun.net Wed Mar 31 13:25:42 2010 From: blue_heel at fsun.net (Doctor) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:25:42 -0000 Subject: FL: MFM Masquarde In-Reply-To: <4B674D7B.3050309@fsun.net> References: <4B674D7B.3050309@fsun.net> Message-ID: <4BB385D7.3000405@fsun.net> The road had been long with being on the other side of the world. The discovery had been important, even having world press there to cover the find. The finding of the stone would change the way people thought about the rise of Lion Culture. Once the full site adminstration team had arrived, it was back home for the lead archologist. The plane was quiet for once, but it didn't help him sleeping. He was weary, and a bit apprehensive. So there he was, standing on the path up to the log cabin. With one more sigh, he walked up to the door and opened it. "Welcome Home." was shouted by all in the room. It just blew the canine back to see all his friends there. ---- That's right folks, time is approaching for the annual MFM Masquarade. Now is the time to think of and work on what you want to do. It's always a good time, there is always a lot of talent showing itself. There will be the puppet stage set up as well. Make sure that any music or sounds are on their own dedicated C or USB thing. Double check the cd on another computer as well (had some issues last year). There will be a sign up on Friday night, which helps me figure out how many acts there will be. I'll have some cookies there, then the practice is on Sunday, then performance later in the day. Blue -- --- Blue Heeler SunFire Im's available upon request Original member of FSUN (Furry Supporters of Universal Networks) Blue_Heel on Undernet, Anthrochat, Furnet; SPR; Tapestries; FurryMuck Rye on Meadows MUCK Furry Writer, art collector, Stage Ninja http://www.fsun.net/blue_heel Furry Code Avaliable upon Request From blue_heel at fsun.net Thu Apr 22 17:16:09 2010 From: blue_heel at fsun.net (Doctor) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:16:09 -0400 Subject: FL: MFM Masq Message-ID: <4BD0BC99.7040409@fsun.net> The sound echo'd around the town. The whistle, that same whistle that always meant the same thing. This time, it was different. Well, the whistle wasn't different, the fox running down the street towards the whistle was different. He was late, yes, that's what the whistle meant, he was late. As he rounded the corner, he could see it. The boat was slowly back paddling away from the shore. He cried out, and fortunatly the deck workers noticed him and didn't fully raise the gang plank. There was a few shaken hands between them as the fox got closer and closer. He took the pack off his back and tossed it, hitting the ramp as with practice. He then jumped himself, arms flailing. There was much discussion on the deck of the boat, until the fox pulled himself up on the ramp. Some coins changed hands as one of the gentleman stepped forward to the fox. "Someday, You won't make it." The boats whistle chimed off again as the mighty ship started down the lazy river. "But you made it this time, welcome home." The deckhand patted the fox on the back and lead him towards the interior. --- That's right, time is approaching for those immortal words, "Welcome Home." Of course with thoughts of MFM coming up, the famous Masquarde is also approaching. Time is shorter than you might think, so make sure you are planning and preparing for the excellent acts that always grace our stage. Of course, our sound doggy would like to remind you that you should bring a CD or USB thing with only your song on it. Double check your song on a different source than you recorded it on to make sure it works regardless. I will have the sign up on Friday night, and would like to know what acts are being planned. Sunday is practice then the performance. The theme of this year is Southern Hospitality. Blue -- --- Blue Heeler SunFire Im's available upon request Original member of FSUN (Furry Supporters of Universal Networks) Blue_Heel on Undernet, Anthrochat, Furnet; SPR; Tapestries; FurryMuck Rye on Meadows MUCK Furry Writer, art collector, Stage Ninja http://www.fsun.net/blue_heel Furry Code Avaliable upon Request From morphicon.publicity at gmail.com Thu Feb 4 22:38:37 2010 From: morphicon.publicity at gmail.com (Morphicon Publicity) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 03:38:37 -0000 Subject: FL: CALLING ALL GOPHERS! Message-ID: <4b6b92b5.9653f10a.1b36.2933@mx.google.com> CALLING ALL GOPHERS! We need YOU to make this convention a success! With your help, Morphicon in the past years has been a smooth, easy going convention, with lots of fun and very little in-con drama! If you volunteer this year, we can help keep it that way! All gophers enjoy complimentary food from our hospitality suite, lovely hotel hallways, plenty of socialization, as well as their hours counting towards a discounted or even comped registration for the next year! Come join the fun! It's even BETTER if you pre-register as a gopher (must complete a certain number of service hours). No hints yet, but believe me, it's BETTER. Please answer back to gophers at morphicon.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fuzzyroo at gmail.com Thu Apr 22 23:56:49 2010 From: fuzzyroo at gmail.com (Lucus Rocket) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:56:49 -0500 Subject: FL: CALLING ALL GOPHERS! In-Reply-To: <4b6b92b5.9653f10a.1b36.2933@mx.google.com> References: <4b6b92b5.9653f10a.1b36.2933@mx.google.com> Message-ID: er...what dose this have to do with creating and maintaining and such with fursuits? On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Morphicon Publicity < morphicon.publicity at gmail.com> wrote: > CALLING ALL GOPHERS! > > > > We need YOU to make this convention a success! > > With your help, Morphicon in the past years has been a smooth, easy going > convention, with lots of fun and very little in-con drama! > > If you volunteer this year, we can help keep it that way! > > > > All gophers enjoy complimentary food from our hospitality suite, lovely > hotel hallways, plenty of socialization, as well as their hours counting > towards a discounted or even comped registration for the next year! > > > > Come join the fun! It's even BETTER if you pre-register as a gopher (must > complete a certain number of service hours). No hints yet, but believe me, > it's BETTER. > > > > Please answer back to gophers at morphicon.org > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From light_yagami_88 at yahoo.ca Wed Apr 28 13:20:14 2010 From: light_yagami_88 at yahoo.ca (Adrian Beltrame) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: quote from DOG SOLDIERS, the best werewolf movie ever Message-ID: <328643.18040.qm@web46106.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Ruff Woof Bark Arf Bow-Wow Howl. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galen at velocity.net Sun May 2 06:50:22 2010 From: galen at velocity.net (FoxWolfie Galen) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 06:50:22 -0400 Subject: FL: quote from DOG SOLDIERS, the best werewolf movie ever In-Reply-To: <328643.18040.qm@web46106.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <328643.18040.qm@web46106.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <26mqt5pfte406iedkgno5lfdg7smh04a7a@4ax.com> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:20:14 -0700 (PDT), Adrian Beltrame wrote: > Ruff Woof Bark Arf Bow-Wow Howl. Can you translate that to raccoon please? :) -- _]\-/[_ galen at velocity.net (FoxWolfie Galen) =_^o^_= http://velocity.net/~galen/ ^U^ AIM: CubCoon From cyan.fox at gmail.com Sun May 2 07:09:03 2010 From: cyan.fox at gmail.com (AARON LEWIS DINKIN) Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 07:09:03 -0400 Subject: FL: quote from DOG SOLDIERS, the best werewolf movie ever In-Reply-To: <26mqt5pfte406iedkgno5lfdg7smh04a7a@4ax.com> References: <328643.18040.qm@web46106.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <26mqt5pfte406iedkgno5lfdg7smh04a7a@4ax.com> Message-ID: <4807114984828433356@unknownmsgid> All Your Base Are Belong To Us :P On May 2, 2010, at 6:50 AM, FoxWolfie Galen wrote: > On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:20:14 -0700 (PDT), Adrian Beltrame > wrote: > >> Ruff Woof Bark Arf Bow-Wow Howl. > > Can you translate that to raccoon please? :) > -- > _]\-/[_ galen at velocity.net (FoxWolfie Galen) > =_^o^_= http://velocity.net/~galen/ > ^U^ AIM: CubCoon > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list From fursuit at rooth.org Thu May 6 20:04:17 2010 From: fursuit at rooth.org (Dave "Rooth" Michaels) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 18:04:17 -0600 Subject: FL: Pro Digi-legs by WETA Message-ID: Digitigrade leg stilts have been discussed on and off on this and other lists for years. Many of you have come up with your own designs. Some are illusions, some are plantigrade stilts, some are digitigrade stilts. As many of you may already know, Kim Graham designed a pair and displayed them last year on YouTube. She was swamped with requests for them, more than she could handle. Ultimately she hooked up with the folks at WETA, a prop & model shop much like ILM, based out of New Zealand. You may have heard of them, as they had a hand in the recent Avatar movie. Anyhow, WETA now has the legs for sale as of a week or two ago, and is currently selling them with an Early Bird discount good until 5/25 ($150 off, which just about covers shipping to the USA). They are not for everyone -- not only are they expensive ($795 with the discount), but they are presently designed only for certain body types. They pitch it as 80% coverage, but I'm thinking it's more along the lines of 3/4 or maybe 2/3 of the fursuiting population. If you're curious whether you "fit", I strongly encourage you to read the instruction manual available at the product web page below. There they detail the difference between the 'small' and 'large' sized legs. Here's the link: http://wetanz.com/wetalegs I have ordered a pair for myself, to be used toward the construction of a dragon costume that I may outsource parts of (my skills in costume building are weakest from the waist up). If there is enough interest, I'd be happy to post here with observations and details and videos even. But they advertise a 60-day turn-around time, as they are built to order, so it'll be a while yet. Cheers, --Rooth -- "I enjoy the massacre of ads. This sentence will slaughter ads without a messy bloodbath." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spottycub at gmail.com Sat May 8 11:31:31 2010 From: spottycub at gmail.com (Ixbalam) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 11:31:31 -0400 Subject: FL: Sugru Message-ID: I'm not sure if anyone has worked with this material yet. I ran into a young man with glasses modified with the stuff and it looks fairly awesome and potentially useful for just about everything. Wired Magazine has also run a profile on its creator recently. http://sugru.com/ -- Ixbalam - spottycub at gmail.com http://ixbalam.deviantart.com/ http://spottyscribbles.wordpress.com/ From sean.wally at gmail.com Sat May 8 12:29:04 2010 From: sean.wally at gmail.com (Sean Wally) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 09:29:04 -0700 Subject: FL: Sugru In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Looks like interesting stuff, I'd love to play with it it. Too bad they're currently sold out. On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Ixbalam wrote: > I'm not sure if anyone has worked with this material yet. I ran into a > young man with glasses modified with the stuff and it looks fairly awesome > and potentially useful for just about everything. Wired Magazine has also > run a profile on its creator recently. > > http://sugru.com/ > > -- > Ixbalam - spottycub at gmail.com > http://ixbalam.deviantart.com/ > http://spottyscribbles.wordpress.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foxwolfac at gmail.com Sat May 8 19:08:45 2010 From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 19:08:45 -0400 Subject: FL: Sugru In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That'd be awesome to make claws and teeth and noses and eyes out of, I could imagine. =^_^= When that is being sold again, I'd be curious to buy a small bit to test it. -Foxwolf 9-Tails On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Sean Wally wrote: > Looks like interesting stuff, I'd love to play with it it. Too bad they're > currently sold out. > > > On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Ixbalam wrote: > >> I'm not sure if anyone has worked with this material yet. I ran into a >> young man with glasses modified with the stuff and it looks fairly awesome >> and potentially useful for just about everything. Wired Magazine has also >> run a profile on its creator recently. >> >> http://sugru.com/ >> >> -- >> Ixbalam - spottycub at gmail.com >> http://ixbalam.deviantart.com/ >> http://spottyscribbles.wordpress.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> Fursuit Mail list. >> To edit your subscription, visit: >> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list >> > > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marcwolf at marcwolf.org Sat May 8 19:53:24 2010 From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (marcwolf.org) Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 09:53:24 +1000 Subject: FL: Pro Digi-legs by WETA In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Rooth I have seen them as well. Beautiful units, Kim as a very talented designer and artist. Ah for $600 in the bank right now. I am sure that Wepa will be swamped with orders too so hopefully they can shorten the manufacturing time. Thanks for the update on this. Marcwolf -----Original Message----- From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of Dave "Rooth" Michaels Sent: Friday, 7 May 2010 10:04 To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: FL: Pro Digi-legs by WETA Digitigrade leg stilts have been discussed on and off on this and other lists for years. Many of you have come up with your own designs. Some are illusions, some are plantigrade stilts, some are digitigrade stilts. As many of you may already know, Kim Graham designed a pair and displayed them last year on YouTube. She was swamped with requests for them, more than she could handle. Ultimately she hooked up with the folks at WETA, a prop & model shop much like ILM, based out of New Zealand. You may have heard of them, as they had a hand in the recent Avatar movie. Anyhow, WETA now has the legs for sale as of a week or two ago, and is currently selling them with an Early Bird discount good until 5/25 ($150 off, which just about covers shipping to the USA). They are not for everyone -- not only are they expensive ($795 with the discount), but they are presently designed only for certain body types. They pitch it as 80% coverage, but I'm thinking it's more along the lines of 3/4 or maybe 2/3 of the fursuiting population. If you're curious whether you "fit", I strongly encourage you to read the instruction manual available at the product web page below. There they detail the difference between the 'small' and 'large' sized legs. Here's the link: http://wetanz.com/wetalegs I have ordered a pair for myself, to be used toward the construction of a dragon costume that I may outsource parts of (my skills in costume building are weakest from the waist up). If there is enough interest, I'd be happy to post here with observations and details and videos even. But they advertise a 60-day turn-around time, as they are built to order, so it'll be a while yet. Cheers, --Rooth -- "I enjoy the massacre of ads. This sentence will slaughter ads without a messy bloodbath." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stego at cpl.net Thu May 20 00:26:16 2010 From: stego at cpl.net (Stego S. Aurus) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 21:26:16 -0700 Subject: FL: Furry Night Live at Califur 2010! A Call For Performers! (fwd) Message-ID: <4BF4B9E8.7000800@cpl.net> (Forwarded for Super_Jayhawk) Hi everyone, Some of you may have heard the announcement we made on LJ and Twitter... Furry Night Live is hitting the road and putting on a show at Califur 2010 in just two and a half more weeks! Since Califur's theme is cartoons/comics, we're going to call our show.... ....Furry Night Live Presents... ....Rock N' Roll Toons! Check out http://www.furrynightlive.org for details! We're excited to bring our ensemble of skit comedy, music, awards and cash prizes to a new audience at Califur! If you were thinking of Califur but didn't have a reason to go, come see our show and join in the fun! A Call For Performers --------------------- To make a truly great show, we need great performers! We have a number of skits that we're wokring on that we have open roles for, abd if you're interested in putting on your suit and joining us on stage, please let us know! Or if you have a skit you'd like to do or are working on, we'd love to hear from you! And even if you don't have a fursuit but would like to help out, we need ninjas, backstage helpers and stunt doubles to help make this show a blast! We'll be travelling to Irvine this coming Saturday, May 22 to visit the Irvine Marriott, the same hotel that califur will be at just two weeks later! If you're interested please contact us at furrynightlive at gmail.com or @furrynightlive on Twitter! Players in the show will get a poster like the one shown on the website in appreciation for their help, and an invite to the FNL Fast Party where we'll be watching the playback of our show afterwards! Not only that, but the audience will be voting for the winning acts, which will receive awards and cash prizes, just like Furry Night Live back in the day! Furry Night Live will be playing one night only, Saturday at 4:00pm before the Cabaret! No additional tickets (other than your con badge) are required to get in, so come see the show and rock out with us! Thanks, -SJ From stego at cpl.net Fri May 21 23:26:58 2010 From: stego at cpl.net (Stego S. Aurus) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 20:26:58 -0700 Subject: FL: FNL Rehersals at PS tomorrow! Message-ID: <4BF74F02.4070801@cpl.net> Hey there! Seeing that theres little time, I thought I take the inititave and mention that the FNL rehersals are going to be held at the PS Backyard tomorrow (Hopefully the weather will play nice), starting after 2:30pm. If youre interested, please keep in contact with @super_jayhawk, @oggywolf or @pretty_omi on twitter, or (as a last resort) get in contact with me at stegowolf(at)gmail.com (or send me a text at 909-two-eight-nine-1013) and I'll relay news. Prancing Skiltaire: 13412 Gilbert St Garden Grove, CA 92844 (easily findable on google or mapquest) (Please don't park on Imperial Ave) From donkeyears at gmail.com Sat May 22 18:46:31 2010 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 15:46:31 -0700 Subject: FL: Fursuiting Shrek Message-ID: I just got back from watching the latest Shrek movie. I showed up wearing Donkey my unrelated donkey fursuit. It was so cool that management did not ask me to leave. I got a couple of hugs from some of the children that where there and a photo or two where taken of me. Donkey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From craigslist.smitty at gmail.com Sat May 22 19:13:07 2010 From: craigslist.smitty at gmail.com (Tyler Smitty) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 19:13:07 -0400 Subject: FL: Fursuiting Shrek In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds like fun, but I would be afraid to do that because Johnny Law around here is so uptight about these kinds of things On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Donkey wrote: > I just got back from watching the latest Shrek movie. I showed up wearing > Donkey my unrelated donkey fursuit. It was so cool that management did not > ask me to leave. I got a couple of hugs from some of the children that where > there and a photo or two where taken of me. > > Donkey > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aidenislove at yahoo.com Sat May 22 19:28:50 2010 From: aidenislove at yahoo.com (Aiden Raccoon) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 16:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: Fursuiting Shrek In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <316998.53969.qm@web33902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Theaters usually let people wear costumes to movies. I've held fursuit movie outings plently of times. ________________________________ From: Tyler Smitty To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 6:13:07 PM Subject: Re: FL: Fursuiting Shrek Sounds like fun, but I would be afraid to do that because Johnny Law around here is so uptight about these kinds of things On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Donkey wrote: I just got back from watching the latest Shrek movie. I showed up wearing Donkey my unrelated donkey fursuit. It was so cool that management did not ask me to leave. I got a couple of hugs from some of the children that where there and a photo or two where taken of me. > >Donkey > >_______________________________________________ >>_______________________________________________ >>Fursuit Mail list. >>To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've held fursuit movie outings plently of times. ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Tyler Smitty To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 6:13:07 PM Subject: Re: FL: Fursuiting Shrek Sounds like fun, but I would be afraid to do that because Johnny Law around here is so uptight about these kinds of things On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Donkey wrote: I just got back from watching the latest Shrek movie. I showed up wearing Donkey my unrelated donkey fursuit. It was so cool that management did not ask me to leave. I got a couple of hugs from some of the children that where there and a photo or two where taken of me. Donkey _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list From smorizio at hotmail.com Sat May 22 20:26:09 2010 From: smorizio at hotmail.com (steven morizio) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 20:26:09 -0400 Subject: FL: Fursuiting Shrek In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: trick is to call ahead and know your local theater. most of the big chain ones the manager has to follow there corp guild lines or lose his job if the home office found out he broke some corp rule. the smaller family owned and drive through that are still open are more family friendly. same would go for fursuit bowling as i done it a few times with groups of furs here in mass. the trick was to call ahead. I felt sorry for the easter bunny that showed up for a kids birthday party last time i went there was one dragon and a few wolves bowling...kids thaought we were going to eat him.. _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aidenislove at yahoo.com Sun May 23 05:12:19 2010 From: aidenislove at yahoo.com (Aiden Raccoon) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 02:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: Fursuiting Shrek In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: <126937.72308.qm@web33901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well, so far I've suited at AMC theaters (also Loews before the merger) and Marcus theaters. That's a fairly major percentage of nationwide theaters. Also Classic Cinemas said it was fine but we didn't go there. ________________________________ From: steven morizio To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 7:26:09 PM Subject: Re: FL: Fursuiting Shrek trick is to call ahead and know your local theater. most of the big chain ones the manager has to follow there corp guild lines or lose his job if the home office found out he broke some corp rule. the smaller family owned and drive through that are still open are more family friendly. same would go for fursuit bowling as i done it a few times with groups of furs here in mass. the trick was to call ahead. I felt sorry for the easter bunny that showed up for a kids birthday party last time i went there was one dragon and a few wolves bowling...kids thaought we were going to eat him.. ________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. Get busy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tsukasa06 at msn.com Sun May 23 05:52:38 2010 From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (shane ramos) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 03:52:38 -0600 Subject: FL: Fursuiting Shrek In-Reply-To: <126937.72308.qm@web33901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: , , , , , , <126937.72308.qm@web33901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Of the theater I work for my boss is fine with people dressing up for movies, especially us as the employees dressing up on Halloween.... but employees can't wear masks on the job on halloween, but I have done it on my day off on that day =3. Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 02:12:19 -0700 From: aidenislove at yahoo.com To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: Re: FL: Fursuiting Shrek Well, so far I've suited at AMC theaters (also Loews before the merger) and Marcus theaters. That's a fairly major percentage of nationwide theaters. Also Classic Cinemas said it was fine but we didn't go there. From: steven morizio To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 7:26:09 PM Subject: Re: FL: Fursuiting Shrek trick is to call ahead and know your local theater. most of the big chain ones the manager has to follow there corp guild lines or lose his job if the home office found out he broke some corp rule. the smaller family owned and drive through that are still open are more family friendly. same would go for fursuit bowling as i done it a few times with groups of furs here in mass. the trick was to call ahead. I felt sorry for the easter bunny that showed up for a kids birthday party last time i went there was one dragon and a few wolves bowling...kids thaought we were going to eat him.. The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. Get busy. _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. 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URL: From fursuit at rooth.org Fri Jun 18 03:08:09 2010 From: fursuit at rooth.org (Dave "Rooth" Michaels) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 01:08:09 -0600 Subject: FL: Pro Digi-legs by WETA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Due to insufficient orders for this product, the production line has been shutdown before it really started. I have received a refund for my purchase, though no action was required on my part. Guess it's back to the drawing board. ;) At least the videos will prove useful for motion and mechanics study. Cheers, --Rooth On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Dave "Rooth" Michaels wrote: > > Digitigrade leg stilts have been discussed on and off on this and other > lists for years. Many of you have come up with your own designs. Some are > illusions, some are plantigrade stilts, some are digitigrade stilts. > > As many of you may already know, Kim Graham designed a pair and displayed > them last year on YouTube. She was swamped with requests for them, more > than she could handle. Ultimately she hooked up with the folks at WETA, a > prop & model shop much like ILM, based out of New Zealand. You may have > heard of them, as they had a hand in the recent Avatar movie. > > Anyhow, WETA now has the legs for sale as of a week or two ago, and is > currently selling them with an Early Bird discount good until 5/25 ($150 > off, which just about covers shipping to the USA). They are not for > everyone -- not only are they expensive ($795 with the discount), but they > are presently designed only for certain body types. They pitch it as 80% > coverage, but I'm thinking it's more along the lines of 3/4 or maybe 2/3 of > the fursuiting population. If you're curious whether you "fit", I strongly > encourage you to read the instruction manual available at the product web > page below. There they detail the difference between the 'small' and > 'large' sized legs. > > Here's the link: > http://wetanz.com/wetalegs > > I have ordered a pair for myself, to be used toward the construction of a > dragon costume that I may outsource parts of (my skills in costume building > are weakest from the waist up). If there is enough interest, I'd be happy > to post here with observations and details and videos even. But they > advertise a 60-day turn-around time, as they are built to order, so it'll be > a while yet. > > Cheers, > --Rooth > > -- "I enjoy the massacre of ads. This sentence will slaughter ads without a messy bloodbath." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kofutw at yahoo.com.tw Fri Jun 18 14:58:35 2010 From: kofutw at yahoo.com.tw (kofutw) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 02:58:35 +0800 (CST) Subject: FL: Good time to get materials for fursuit eyes Message-ID: <894424.56008.qm@web72206.mail.tp2.yahoo.com> Hi all: It's about 4th of July again, super markets like wal-mart and other markets started to put out red white and blue merchandise on shelf This is a pretty good time to stock up the white bowls or cups (or even containers) for fursuit eyes, it's about like dollar or two each. Every time visit super market I usually would stop by kitchen ware and container section to look for such material, but the container are mainly the see through ones. It's getting harder to find this kind plastic container for eyes I think, the only materials that are about the same are water buckets or trash can, or bleach bottle (usually the bleach bottle is much softer and I am not sure if it would be strong enough to put on the eyes), but the 4th of July containers are cheaper than buckets or trash cans :) If anyone is looking for such material for your eyes, I think it's very good time to get some right now, and of course there are many other different ways and materials you can use on the eyes. Hops it's somewhat useful Kofu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marcwolf at marcwolf.org Fri Jun 18 20:19:21 2010 From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (marcwolf.org) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:19:21 +1000 Subject: FL: Pro Digi-legs by WETA In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Very sorry to hear that. The price was high considering the market they were pushing to. Other movie houses (like the one that did Underworld) have the resources to do their own, so it only left the hobby market. In a way the price also reflected the mismatch between a hobby and a profession. My own suit was seen by some professionals in the movie area and they said that for them to even start to do something like that it would be atleast $10,000. I am sure that many of the fursuiters here know that cost of their own costumes is FAR below that. It was a niche market at best and they overpriced themselves out of it. I feel very sorry for Kim Graham as she put a lot of time and effort into designing them. Take Care Dave a.k.a. Marcwolf -----Original Message----- From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of Dave "Rooth" Michaels Sent: Friday, 18 June 2010 17:08 To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: Re: FL: Pro Digi-legs by WETA Due to insufficient orders for this product, the production line has been shutdown before it really started. I have received a refund for my purchase, though no action was required on my part. Guess it's back to the drawing board. ;) At least the videos will prove useful for motion and mechanics study. Cheers, --Rooth On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Dave "Rooth" Michaels wrote: Digitigrade leg stilts have been discussed on and off on this and other lists for years. Many of you have come up with your own designs. Some are illusions, some are plantigrade stilts, some are digitigrade stilts. As many of you may already know, Kim Graham designed a pair and displayed them last year on YouTube. She was swamped with requests for them, more than she could handle. Ultimately she hooked up with the folks at WETA, a prop & model shop much like ILM, based out of New Zealand. You may have heard of them, as they had a hand in the recent Avatar movie. Anyhow, WETA now has the legs for sale as of a week or two ago, and is currently selling them with an Early Bird discount good until 5/25 ($150 off, which just about covers shipping to the USA). They are not for everyone -- not only are they expensive ($795 with the discount), but they are presently designed only for certain body types. They pitch it as 80% coverage, but I'm thinking it's more along the lines of 3/4 or maybe 2/3 of the fursuiting population. If you're curious whether you "fit", I strongly encourage you to read the instruction manual available at the product web page below. There they detail the difference between the 'small' and 'large' sized legs. Here's the link: http://wetanz.com/wetalegs I have ordered a pair for myself, to be used toward the construction of a dragon costume that I may outsource parts of (my skills in costume building are weakest from the waist up). If there is enough interest, I'd be happy to post here with observations and details and videos even. But they advertise a 60-day turn-around time, as they are built to order, so it'll be a while yet. Cheers, --Rooth -- "I enjoy the massacre of ads. This sentence will slaughter ads without a messy bloodbath." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sckrabei2 at hotmail.com Fri Jun 18 20:51:47 2010 From: sckrabei2 at hotmail.com (luke sckrabei) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 00:51:47 +0000 Subject: FL: Pro Digi-legs by WETA In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: I'm sure those who want digi legs could brainstorm a method of construction and someone could stand up and supply this niche market. Hell, I've waited 6 years to get my studio up and going. Marc, you know how long I've been around here for. I think it was back in 2001 when I first joined the list and still haven't made a complete suit for myself even having spent nearly $20,000 on spray booths, vac table and roto casting equiptment and so on. Everyting is easy once you know how! Will post a link to my website before september and show you the fruits of my R&D. Kind regards, Luke Sckrabei, SNOUTWHISTLE STUDIOS Adelaide, Australia. _________________________________________________________________ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marcwolf at marcwolf.org Sat Jun 19 00:19:00 2010 From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (marcwolf.org) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 14:19:00 +1000 Subject: FL: Pro Digi-legs by WETA In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Currently doing. I have pictures up on my Facebook account of David Boccabella http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000739257449#!/album.php?aid=14085 &id=100000739257449&ref=pb Enjoy them and the other projects I am working on :> Marcwolf -----Original Message----- From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of luke sckrabei Sent: Saturday, 19 June 2010 10:52 To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: Re: FL: Pro Digi-legs by WETA I'm sure those who want digi legs could brainstorm a method of construction and someone could stand up and supply this niche market. Hell, I've waited 6 years to get my studio up and going. Marc, you know how long I've been around here for. I think it was back in 2001 when I first joined the list and still haven't made a complete suit for myself even having spent nearly $20,000 on spray booths, vac table and roto casting equiptment and so on. Everyting is easy once you know how! Will post a link to my website before september and show you the fruits of my R&D. Kind regards, Luke Sckrabei, SNOUTWHISTLE STUDIOS Adelaide, Australia. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Australia's #1 job site If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foxx at wowway.com Sat Jun 19 01:05:12 2010 From: foxx at wowway.com (Foxx) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 01:05:12 -0400 Subject: FL: Newsletter Content Wanted Message-ID: <4C1C5008.2090704@wowway.com> publicity at morphicon.org is currently seeking content for the next Morphicon newsletter. This message isn't intended as spam but rather as a search for content. There is hope this could be a monthly addition to the newsletter for those who currently don't fursuit or are new to fursuiting. This month's newsletter, because of the weather here in Ohio, is primarily on how to deal with the heat while fursuiting. If anyone would be willing to your tips to publicity at morphicon.org it would be appreciated. If posts like this bother you then I will refrain from asking in the future. Thanks. From fursuit at rooth.org Sat Jun 19 02:40:53 2010 From: fursuit at rooth.org (Dave "Rooth" Michaels) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 00:40:53 -0600 Subject: FL: Pro Digi-legs by WETA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:19 PM, marcwolf.org wrote: > Very sorry to hear that. > The price was high considering the market they were pushing to. Other > movie houses (like the one that did Underworld) have the resources to do > their own, so it only left the hobby market. > Yes, but even big software houses sometimes buy off-the-shelf products. The make vs. buy decision is still made no matter how much 'make' the company is capable of itself. I'm sure if Underworld needed 30 of these things, WETA could do it cheaper than Underworld could make them itself, and they'd have plenty of good features. In any case, hobbyists weren't their primary audience, or else they would have been hitting conventions and adverts on relevant sites. > In a way the price also reflected the mismatch between a hobby and a > profession. My own suit was seen by some professionals in the movie area > and they said that for them to even start to do something like that it would > be atleast $10,000. I am sure that many of the fursuiters here know that > cost of their own costumes is FAR below that. > Agreed. IMO, made the $795 or so for the skeleton was pretty reasonable, even given the 'low' price of fursuit costumes in the $2k-$5k range. I think at this point they'd still be willing to do custom builds for folks, but I'm sure the price would be much higher. --Rooth -- "I enjoy the massacre of ads. This sentence will slaughter ads without a messy bloodbath." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From orwin at shaw.ca Sun Jun 20 13:56:48 2010 From: orwin at shaw.ca (Orwin Raqoon) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 10:56:48 -0700 Subject: FL: Good time to get materials for fursuit eyes In-Reply-To: <894424.56008.qm@web72206.mail.tp2.yahoo.com> References: <894424.56008.qm@web72206.mail.tp2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002801cb10a1$f49055b0$ddb10110$@ca> I?ve always had good luck using old containers as there?s always a great selection of colours available. Car wax bottles Antifreeze bottles Dish soap bottles Motor oil bottles You just want to make sure they are washed super well before using them, as you don?t want to get some of that stuff too close to where you are wearing it, and try to pick containers that aren?t too overly shaped. As an alternative, rubber foam works really well too, and only costs about a $1.50 a sheet and is easier to work with than plastic. Just some other ideas. Orwin From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of kofutw Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 11:59 AM To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: FL: Good time to get materials for fursuit eyes Hi all: It's about 4th of July again, super markets like wal-mart and other markets started to put out red white and blue merchandise on shelf This is a pretty good time to stock up the white bowls or cups (or even containers) for fursuit eyes, it's about like dollar or two each. Every time visit super market I usually would stop by kitchen ware and container section to look for such material, but the container are mainly the see through ones. It's getting harder to find this kind plastic container for eyes I think, the only materials that are about the same are water buckets or trash can, or bleach bottle (usually the bleach bottle is much softer and I am not sure if it would be strong enough to put on the eyes), but the 4th of July containers are cheaper than buckets or trash cans :) If anyone is looking for such material for your eyes, I think it's very good time to get some right now, and of course there are many other different ways and materials you can use on the eyes. Hops it's somewhat useful Kofu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wonder_moose_blue at yahoo.com Mon Jun 21 22:02:51 2010 From: wonder_moose_blue at yahoo.com (Mark Sinicki) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: Good time to get materials for fursuit eyes In-Reply-To: <894424.56008.qm@web72206.mail.tp2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <214487.41514.qm@web55205.mail.re4.yahoo.com> I think you are speaking of food-grade polypropylene products. --- On Fri, 6/18/10, kofutw wrote: From: kofutw Subject: FL: Good time to get materials for fursuit eyes To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 2:58 PM Hi all: It's about 4th of July again, super markets like wal-mart and other markets started to put out red white and blue merchandise on shelf This is a pretty good time to stock up the white bowls or cups (or even containers) for fursuit eyes, it's about like dollar or two each. Every time visit super market I usually would stop by kitchen ware and container section to look for such material, but the container are mainly the see through ones. It's getting harder to find this kind plastic container for eyes I think, the only materials that are about the same are water buckets or trash can, or bleach bottle (usually the bleach bottle is much softer and I am not sure if it would be strong enough to put on the eyes), but the 4th of July containers are cheaper than buckets or trash cans :) If anyone is looking for such material for your eyes, I think it's very good time to get some right now, and of course there are many other different ways and materials you can use on the eyes. Hops it's somewhat useful Kofu ? -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. 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URL: From frysco-sender-6f5fe9 at gryphonic.org Wed Jun 30 17:15:42 2010 From: frysco-sender-6f5fe9 at gryphonic.org (Francisco Azinsan) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:15:42 -0500 Subject: FL: FC2011 July Newsletter Message-ID: <20100630211542.GA95960@critter.net> FC2011 July Newsletter In this issue: 1. Convention Dates Changed 2. Hotel News 3. Themed website launch 4. Guests of Honor for FC2011 5. Annual Further Confusion Camp-out and Picnic 6. Events 7. Dealers Room and Furry Market Place 8. Next Staff Meeting 1. Convention Dates Changed The dates for our 2011 convention have changed. We now have the Martin Luther King holiday (U.S.) weekend dates of January 13 - 17. Please be sure your travel, hotel reservations dates, and vacation requests match up with our new dates. 2. Hotel News We have run out of rooms on Sunday and Monday, but expect to have more available today. If your reservation is refused, please try again after a short wait. 3. Themed website launch Our themed website for Further Confusion 2011 has arrived! Many thanks go to Krahnos for the design and artwork that gives our website a strong anchoring within this year's theme of "Southern Crossings". 4. Guests of Honor for FC2011 Our first Guest of Honor for Further Confusion 2011 for this year's festivities, as announced at the end of the FC2010 variety show, is the awesome art team of Blotch. You can find their art and other information about them at . Our second Guest of Honor is Paul Kidd, who has been active within furry fandom since its earliest days. He is the author of such furry novels as Fangs of K'aath, Mus of Kerbridge, to name just a couple. Paul has most recently been working as a scripter and producer in the film industry. His scripting credits include work for Eric Idle, Jon Pertwee and Tony Robbinson. He is currently engaged as a producer with the Hollywood EPIC film fund - which will hopefully lead to getting his own feature films and TV series out in the near future. Plus, he's from Australia - which is just perfect, given our theme this year. 5. Annual Further Confusion Camp-out and Picnic We are currently making plans for the FC2011 Camp-out, which will take place on the nights of Friday September 10th and Saturday September 11th. Watch for further announcements about location and sign ups soon. The annual Further Confusion picnic will be held Saturday, September 11th. Again, watch for more detailed announcement coming shortly. The picnic is free and open to all - no RSVP required! 6. Events Now is the time of year when we are recruiting for panels. We have several tracks of presentations including: Art, Writing, Fursuiting, Science/Technology, Puppetry, Gaming, Social, Species, Music, and Spirituality. Please put your requests in early to have a better chance of being scheduled. If you have something that you find interesting and is related to furry fandom, email us at events at furtherconfusion.org 7. Dealers Room and Furry Market Place Dealers Room Sold Out - Waiting List has begun Yes, it's that time of year again, the Further Confusion Dealer Room has sold out. So, if you are interested in getting a table in the Dealer Room, the only way will be to submit a Waiting List Application. This application is available as a PDF on the dealer page of the Further Confusion website. Just print it out, fill out and send in the last 2 pages, and you'll be in the lottery for a table when/if one becomes available. Furry Market Place spaces go on sale August 1st, 2010 Even though the Dealer Room is sold out, the 20 spaces in the Furry Market Place have not even been offered yet. But they WILL be. They start on sale for US$75 (which includes one full membership to the convention) starting August 1st. If you are interested in one of these spaces, watch for the Furry Market Place page on the Further Confusion website in early July. The application for purchase of a Furry Market Place space will appear there, in PDF form. For FULL details, including the limitations of the Furry Market Place (No Adult material and you have to set up and tear down each day) see the Further Confusion website's Furry Market place page when it goes live in July. So, watch the skies... er, the website, for the Furry Market Place applications in July. And again, there will only be 20 spaces available and when they are sold out, they are sold out. 8. Next Staff Meeting Our next staff meeting will be on July 17th, starting at 1:00pm in the San Jose Fairmont. Check the lobby electronic sign for our room assignment. Parking is available in the surrounding area but is not free. The parking lot closest to the hotel will run $7 for the duration of the meeting. -- Further Confusion info at furtherconfusion.org From mhagen_2001 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 4 16:21:30 2010 From: mhagen_2001 at yahoo.com (Patch) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 13:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: Large plaster molds Message-ID: <753102.94925.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Not for a fursuit, but it is a mold making question that folks on the list may encounter in suit creation. So I need to make a couple of foam rubber watermelons for a project. I've made small plaster two-part molds before by simply putting the object in a box and pouring all around it in two stages. However, watermelons are rather large, and I really don't want to go that route. I could try and make a reinforced shell using plaster and plaster bandages, but I'm not certain how to make that edge between the two halves. Any advice? --Patch ******************************************* Homer: That baby-proofing crook wanted to sell us safety covers for the electrical outlets. But I'll just draw bunny faces on them to scare Maggie away. Marge: She's not afraid of bunnies. Homer: (ominously) She will be. From zennoa at Gmail.com Sun Jul 4 17:25:21 2010 From: zennoa at Gmail.com (Zennoa) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 16:25:21 -0500 Subject: FL: Large plaster molds In-Reply-To: <753102.94925.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <753102.94925.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The way I typically see such large molds made is with dental alginate. You get roughly a half inch to 1 inch thick coating on the object and then support that with plaster. Though it's been a while since I've seen this done. It was on an episode of Mythbusters but I've seen it all over the internet too. Look for a tutorial on life casting; it's the same process. On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Patch wrote: > Not for a fursuit, but it is a mold making question that folks on the list > may encounter in suit creation. > > So I need to make a couple of foam rubber watermelons for a project. I've > made small plaster two-part molds before by simply putting the object in a > box and pouring all around it in two stages. However, watermelons are > rather large, and I really don't want to go that route. I could try and > make a reinforced shell using plaster and plaster bandages, but I'm not > certain how to make that edge between the two halves. Any advice? > > --Patch > > > > ******************************************* > Homer: That baby-proofing crook wanted to sell us safety > covers for the electrical outlets. But I'll just draw > bunny faces on them to scare Maggie away. > Marge: She's not afraid of bunnies. > Homer: (ominously) She will be. > > > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wolfinspace at gmail.com Sun Jul 4 21:52:29 2010 From: wolfinspace at gmail.com (Spacewolf) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 20:52:29 -0500 Subject: FL: Large plaster molds In-Reply-To: <753102.94925.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <753102.94925.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: What is your budget for the project? When you say foam are you talking about a rigid or soft foam? . If you just need watermelon props there may be other ways to do it if foam is not needed. I went to school for this type of stuff. Just need a little more detail and I can shoot out some ideas. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhagen_2001 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 5 12:11:15 2010 From: mhagen_2001 at yahoo.com (Patch) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 09:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: Large plaster molds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <481695.8198.qm@web50307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Soft foam. I need to stuff several of them into a large puppet's mouth. Budget... I'd rather not spend a lot. In my favor I have a ton of plaster from earlier projects, and a quart of 4 lb expanding soft foam. I've thought about painting children's Nerf balls for cantaloupes, but I don't know of anything that would be an oblong watermelon shape. Current plan conceived last night is to stuff a watermelon halfway through a hole in a piece of cardboard to create a barrier upon which I can mount mold keys and support half of a plaster shell. When that dries, remove the cardboard, invert, and cast the other half. I think that would work. --Patch ******************************************* Homer: That baby-proofing crook wanted to sell us safety covers for the electrical outlets. But I'll just draw bunny faces on them to scare Maggie away. Marge: She's not afraid of bunnies. Homer: (ominously) She will be. > From: Spacewolf > > What is your budget for the project?? When you say > foam are you talking > about a rigid or soft foam?? .? If you just need > watermelon props there may > be other ways to do it if foam is not needed. I went to > school for this type > of stuff.? Just need a little more detail and I can > shoot out some ideas. From zennoa at Gmail.com Mon Jul 5 13:42:22 2010 From: zennoa at Gmail.com (Zennoa) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 12:42:22 -0500 Subject: FL: Large plaster molds In-Reply-To: <481695.8198.qm@web50307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <481695.8198.qm@web50307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: If you use mold release and/or petroleum jelly on the plaster, you can do the top half with the bottom half still attached. This is how I tend to do molds. Alternatively, depending on just how exact these molds need to be, you could simply put the foam inside a balloon perhaps. Though this would work best with expanding foam that comes out of some sort of injector. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Patch wrote: > Soft foam. I need to stuff several of them into a large puppet's mouth. > > Budget... I'd rather not spend a lot. In my favor I have a ton of plaster > from earlier projects, and a quart of 4 lb expanding soft foam. > > I've thought about painting children's Nerf balls for cantaloupes, but I > don't know of anything that would be an oblong watermelon shape. > > Current plan conceived last night is to stuff a watermelon halfway through > a hole in a piece of cardboard to create a barrier upon which I can mount > mold keys and support half of a plaster shell. When that dries, remove the > cardboard, invert, and cast the other half. I think that would work. > > > --Patch > > > ******************************************* > Homer: That baby-proofing crook wanted to sell us safety > covers for the electrical outlets. But I'll just draw > bunny faces on them to scare Maggie away. > Marge: She's not afraid of bunnies. > Homer: (ominously) She will be. > > > > > From: Spacewolf > > > > What is your budget for the project? When you say > > foam are you talking > > about a rigid or soft foam? . If you just need > > watermelon props there may > > be other ways to do it if foam is not needed. I went to > > school for this type > > of stuff. Just need a little more detail and I can > > shoot out some ideas. > > > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lucius.donkey at gmail.com Mon Jul 5 15:20:04 2010 From: lucius.donkey at gmail.com (Lucius) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 15:20:04 -0400 Subject: FL: Large plaster molds In-Reply-To: <481695.8198.qm@web50307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <481695.8198.qm@web50307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I don't know if they will be large enough, but a Nerf football is an oblong shape. You could make it a little more round by trimming the pointy ends a bit. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Patch wrote: > Soft foam. ?I need to stuff several of them into a large puppet's mouth. > > Budget... I'd rather not spend a lot. ?In my favor I have a ton of plaster from earlier projects, and a quart of 4 lb expanding soft foam. > > I've thought about painting children's Nerf balls for cantaloupes, but I don't know of anything that would be an oblong watermelon shape. > > Current plan conceived last night is to stuff a watermelon halfway through a hole in a piece of cardboard to create a barrier upon which I can mount mold keys and support half of a plaster shell. ?When that dries, remove the cardboard, invert, and cast the other half. ?I think that would work. > > > --Patch -- L(_)cius From v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com Mon Jul 5 19:41:56 2010 From: v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com (Allan Sormani Sanabria) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 17:41:56 -0600 Subject: FL: Room Available for FURTHER CONFUSION 2011 Message-ID: If anyone is planing to go to Further Confusion 2011 and can't pay the hotel for the 4 nights. I have a room in the hotel. I think the room's type is Deluxe, its really big. I know that the price for the standard rooms were around $123 per night. They are all out. If I can find at least 4 people willing to pay $275.00 USD each, that will cover the price for the room totally, or maybe more people can join us, so each one will need less money. That will cover the room for 4 nights. So each night will cost you $68.00 USD. or less if more people comes. If you are interested please let me know. But I will need to be 100% sure you will go. Total amount for the room -> $1100.00 USD (Deluxe Room - It's really big!!!) 2 people = $550.00 USD each 3 people = $337.00 USD each 4 people = $275.00 USD each (minimun) 5 people = $220.00 USD each 6 people = $184.00 USD each 7 people = $158.00 USD each 8 people = $138.00 USD each 9 people = $122.00 USD each 10 people = $110.00 USD each email address: dmilesfox at gmail.com / v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com messenger: d.milesfox at hotmail.com (don't forget the "dot" :P) Need to find at least 4 people ASAP, or more if possible! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donkeyears at gmail.com Mon Jul 5 21:19:11 2010 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 18:19:11 -0700 Subject: FL: Room Available for FURTHER CONFUSION 2011 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't normally recommend having more than 4 in a room. Since this room is suite I could see possibly cramming 6 in. The cost savings gets to way to small for a more crowed room. Is saving about $7.50 a night for having a 7th person really worth having to deal with another person and there stuff in the room? Having more than 4 in the room you also run the risk of the 'hotel' kicking everyone out of the room. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Allan Sormani Sanabria < v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com> wrote: > > If anyone is planing to go to Further Confusion 2011 and can't pay the > hotel for the 4 nights. I have a room in the hotel. I think the room's type > is Deluxe, its really big. > > I know that the price for the standard rooms were around $123 per night. > They are all out. > > If I can find at least 4 people willing to pay $275.00 USD each, that will > cover the price for the room totally, or maybe more people can join us, so > each one will need less money. That will cover the room for 4 nights. So > each night will cost you $68.00 USD. or less if more people comes. > > If you are interested please let me know. But I will need to be 100% sure > you will go. > > Total amount for the room -> $1100.00 USD (Deluxe Room - It's really > big!!!) > > 2 people = $550.00 USD each > 3 people = $337.00 USD each > 4 people = $275.00 USD each (minimun) > 5 people = $220.00 USD each > 6 people = $184.00 USD each > 7 people = $158.00 USD each > 8 people = $138.00 USD each > 9 people = $122.00 USD each > 10 people = $110.00 USD each > > email address: dmilesfox at gmail.com / v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com > messenger: d.milesfox at hotmail.com (don't forget the "dot" :P) > > Need to find at least 4 people ASAP, or more if possible! > > > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com Tue Jul 6 07:26:54 2010 From: v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com (Allan Sormani Sanabria) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 05:26:54 -0600 Subject: FL: Room Available for FURTHER CONFUSION 2011 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Totally agree with you, so I think 4 might be a good number and 6 a possible max! On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Donkey wrote: > I don't normally recommend having more than 4 in a room. Since this room is > suite I could see possibly cramming 6 in. The cost savings gets to way to > small for a more crowed room. Is saving about $7.50 a night for having a 7th > person really worth having to deal with another person and there stuff in > the room? Having more than 4 in the room you also run the risk of the > 'hotel' kicking everyone out of the room. > > On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Allan Sormani Sanabria < > v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> If anyone is planing to go to Further Confusion 2011 and can't pay the >> hotel for the 4 nights. I have a room in the hotel. I think the room's type >> is Deluxe, its really big. >> >> I know that the price for the standard rooms were around $123 per night. >> They are all out. >> >> If I can find at least 4 people willing to pay $275.00 USD each, that will >> cover the price for the room totally, or maybe more people can join us, so >> each one will need less money. That will cover the room for 4 nights. So >> each night will cost you $68.00 USD. or less if more people comes. >> >> If you are interested please let me know. But I will need to be 100% sure >> you will go. >> >> Total amount for the room -> $1100.00 USD (Deluxe Room - It's really >> big!!!) >> >> 2 people = $550.00 USD each >> 3 people = $337.00 USD each >> 4 people = $275.00 USD each (minimun) >> 5 people = $220.00 USD each >> 6 people = $184.00 USD each >> 7 people = $158.00 USD each >> 8 people = $138.00 USD each >> 9 people = $122.00 USD each >> 10 people = $110.00 USD each >> >> email address: dmilesfox at gmail.com / v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com >> messenger: d.milesfox at hotmail.com (don't forget the "dot" :P) >> >> Need to find at least 4 people ASAP, or more if possible! >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> Fursuit Mail list. >> To edit your subscription, visit: >> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > > -- Att. Allan Sormani S. DragonEyE Studios v.dragoneye.n09 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From santafox at comcast.net Wed Jul 7 11:10:13 2010 From: santafox at comcast.net (Santa Fox) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 15:10:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: FL: Chick-Fil-A Dress Like A Cow Day: Friday 7/9 Message-ID: <2118021005.1659231278515413428.JavaMail.root@sz0174a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Just a reminder for anyone who doesn't know, this Friday is Chick-Fil-A's annual "Cow Appreciation Day" / "Dress Like a Cow Day" event. Dress like a cow from head to toe and get a free meal. Dress in "partial cow", and get a free entree. Full details are here: http://www.cowappreciationday.com/ The restaurant locator page is here: http://www.chick-fil-a.com/restlocator/ Cheers, Santa Fox --- Santa Fox's Den - http://www.jinglefox.com/ From recherei at yahoo.com Thu Jul 8 00:12:45 2010 From: recherei at yahoo.com (Recherei) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 21:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: Chick-Fil-A Dress Like A Cow Day: Friday 7/9 In-Reply-To: <2118021005.1659231278515413428.JavaMail.root@sz0174a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <941282.98986.qm@web50908.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Well, unfortunatly, I have plans for friday. But doesn't it seem that they are starting to sound a bit too desparate for publicity? rech --- On Wed, 7/7/10, Santa Fox wrote: > From: Santa Fox > Subject: FL: Chick-Fil-A Dress Like A Cow Day: Friday 7/9 > To: "*Fursuit List" > Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 11:10 AM > Just a reminder for anyone who > doesn't know, this Friday is > Chick-Fil-A's annual "Cow Appreciation Day" / "Dress Like > a > Cow Day" event.? Dress like a cow from head to toe and > get > a free meal.? Dress in "partial cow", and get a free > entree. > > Full details are here: > > ? http://www.cowappreciationday.com/ > > The restaurant locator page is here: > > ? http://www.chick-fil-a.com/restlocator/ > > Cheers, > Santa Fox > > --- > Santa Fox's Den - http://www.jinglefox.com/ > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > From fox at flyingfox.biz Fri Jul 9 14:27:52 2010 From: fox at flyingfox.biz (fox kinsman) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 14:27:52 -0400 Subject: FL: Chick-Fil-A Dress Like A Cow Day: Friday 7/9 In-Reply-To: <2118021005.1659231278515413428.JavaMail.root@sz0174a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <2118021005.1659231278515413428.JavaMail.root@sz0174a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1EABC886-7C08-4585-A998-1C46144D2D16@flyingfox.biz> I got kicked out! LOL So I talked to a manager a couple weeks ago and everything was cool. Headed over today with a buddy and we met up with Moo Cow and Little Moo. Had a super good time with them out at the Chickfila tent playing games and goofing around with eachother... then it all went very wrong when I went inside. Since I didn't have time to "dress Scape up like a cow" I was just planning on 'eating' the trays and begging at the counter but some manager dude who seemed friendly at first was asking what organization I was with -I wasn't talking in character and my buddy was trying to explain I'm not with an organization -to which the guy was really upset and demanded we leave. Regrouped outside at a picnic table to let my friend know the manager's name I'd talked to earlier on and she went back in to explain -no dice. Ah well -Chickfila is still awesome -we went back in to eat and I just really had to avoid that guy 'cuz I was too weirded out by the whole experience to even say hi. Good times though! Got some photos coming back too of the happy moments. Hope all you actual "Cows" out there had better luck than I did LOL ~Scape On Jul 7, 2010, at 11:10 AM, Santa Fox wrote: Just a reminder for anyone who doesn't know, this Friday is Chick-Fil-A's annual "Cow Appreciation Day" / "Dress Like a Cow Day" event. Dress like a cow from head to toe and get a free meal. Dress in "partial cow", and get a free entree. Full details are here: http://www.cowappreciationday.com/ The restaurant locator page is here: http://www.chick-fil-a.com/restlocator/ Cheers, Santa Fox --- Santa Fox's Den - http://www.jinglefox.com/ _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list From skippy at sk1p.com Fri Jul 9 15:03:54 2010 From: skippy at sk1p.com (Zack F) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 15:03:54 -0400 Subject: FL: Chick-Fil-A Dress Like A Cow Day: Friday 7/9 In-Reply-To: <1EABC886-7C08-4585-A998-1C46144D2D16@flyingfox.biz> References: <2118021005.1659231278515413428.JavaMail.root@sz0174a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1EABC886-7C08-4585-A998-1C46144D2D16@flyingfox.biz> Message-ID: <001601cb1f99$7d063fd0$7712bf70$@com> Glad to hear you had a good time despite the issue with that manager! A friend and I emailed our local Chik-fil-A for permission and got turned down. I actually did mention being part of an organization (Hi-4 in this case - www.hi-4.org) and I think that was a persuasive bit of information, but they explained they had put a lot of meticulous planning into the event and wanted to make sure it was "all about the cows" and not foxes or huskalopes or anything else. Oh well. :) But they expressed an interest in having us come by to entertain for other charity events, so that's a huge plus! Just a little more patience and soon I'll have achieved my lifelong goal of crawling around in those Chik-fil-A crawl tubes in fursuit. *laughs* It won't be long now... XD --skippyfox -----Original Message----- From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of fox kinsman Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 2:28 PM To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: Re: FL: Chick-Fil-A Dress Like A Cow Day: Friday 7/9 I got kicked out! LOL So I talked to a manager a couple weeks ago and everything was cool. Headed over today with a buddy and we met up with Moo Cow and Little Moo. Had a super good time with them out at the Chickfila tent playing games and goofing around with eachother... then it all went very wrong when I went inside. Since I didn't have time to "dress Scape up like a cow" I was just planning on 'eating' the trays and begging at the counter but some manager dude who seemed friendly at first was asking what organization I was with -I wasn't talking in character and my buddy was trying to explain I'm not with an organization -to which the guy was really upset and demanded we leave. Regrouped outside at a picnic table to let my friend know the manager's name I'd talked to earlier on and she went back in to explain -no dice. Ah well -Chickfila is still awesome -we went back in to eat and I just really had to avoid that guy 'cuz I was too weirded out by the whole experience to even say hi. Good times though! Got some photos coming back too of the happy moments. Hope all you actual "Cows" out there had better luck than I did LOL ~Scape On Jul 7, 2010, at 11:10 AM, Santa Fox wrote: Just a reminder for anyone who doesn't know, this Friday is Chick-Fil-A's annual "Cow Appreciation Day" / "Dress Like a Cow Day" event. Dress like a cow from head to toe and get a free meal. Dress in "partial cow", and get a free entree. Full details are here: http://www.cowappreciationday.com/ The restaurant locator page is here: http://www.chick-fil-a.com/restlocator/ Cheers, Santa Fox --- Santa Fox's Den - http://www.jinglefox.com/ _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list From santafox at comcast.net Fri Jul 9 15:46:03 2010 From: santafox at comcast.net (Santa Fox) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 19:46:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: FL: Chick-Fil-A Dress Like A Cow Day: Friday 7/9 In-Reply-To: <001601cb1f99$7d063fd0$7712bf70$@com> Message-ID: <1636852732.2676711278704763677.JavaMail.root@sz0174a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> ----- Zack F wrote: > Glad to hear you had a good time despite the issue with that manager! > > A friend and I emailed our local Chik-fil-A for permission and got turned > down. I actually did mention being part of an organization (Hi-4 in this Yeah, it's definitely all about the cows, although I know that people with bull costumes have successfully visited CFAs on Dress Like a Cow day. Any other kind of costume is most likely going to be treated like it would be any other day of the year. I will dare say that the chain and/or promotion is very popular here in Atlanta (the home of Chick-Fil-A). I never made it into the parking lot of the first CFA I went to for lunch, as cars were lined up out in the street trying to get in. The second location I tried was pretty busy, too, but I got into the lot and found a space. My cow was a big hit with the restaurant staff, and I even got to greet a small group of kids who I think mistook me for the official CFA cow character. I ate my free meal while still in the costume (I specially designed the costume for this purpose), then went outside to look for the official cow so I could surprise and greet him. He'd been waving to people up at the edge of the road (in 98 degree heat no less - I didn't envy him one bit), but he had wisely gone on break and I didn't have time to wait around for him to come back out. A really fun experience, and I'll likely visit another location for dinner tonight. At least then I won't have to rush back to work and can just hang out (in suit) for a while before going home. Cheers, Santa Fox --- Santa Fox's Den - http://www.jinglefox.com/ From thesnomad at hotmail.com Fri Jul 9 16:40:02 2010 From: thesnomad at hotmail.com (Jakk Snomad) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 16:40:02 -0400 Subject: FL: Chick-Fil-A Dress Like A Cow Day: Friday 7/9 In-Reply-To: <1636852732.2676711278704763677.JavaMail.root@sz0174a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1636852732.2676711278704763677.JavaMail.root@sz0174a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: I'm just wondering why it seemed so hard/unreasonable for Chik-Fil-A to require people to show up in a -cow- suit and not some other species of fursuit? The manager who told you your non-cow/bull suit wasn't eligible for the free food was completely right, unless I misunderstood you. Fursuiting is not a free pass, no matter how cute or realistic your suit is. I only mention this because it's hard enough to go fursuiting at restaurants and other such places that when a place allows us to do it, not following their rules could make them not want to do it anymore, cutting off one more way for us to enjoy fursuiting around town. :/ -------------------------------------------------- From: "Santa Fox" Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 3:46 PM To: Subject: Re: FL: Chick-Fil-A Dress Like A Cow Day: Friday 7/9 > ----- Zack F wrote: >> Glad to hear you had a good time despite the issue with that manager! >> >> A friend and I emailed our local Chik-fil-A for permission and got turned >> down. I actually did mention being part of an organization (Hi-4 in this > > Yeah, it's definitely all about the cows, although I know that people > with bull costumes have successfully visited CFAs on Dress Like a Cow > day. Any other kind of costume is most likely going to be treated like > it would be any other day of the year. > > I will dare say that the chain and/or promotion is very popular here in > Atlanta (the home of Chick-Fil-A). I never made it into the parking lot > of the first CFA I went to for lunch, as cars were lined up out in the > street trying to get in. The second location I tried was pretty busy, > too, but I got into the lot and found a space. > > My cow was a big hit with the restaurant staff, and I even got to greet > a small group of kids who I think mistook me for the official CFA cow > character. I ate my free meal while still in the costume (I specially > designed the costume for this purpose), then went outside to look for > the official cow so I could surprise and greet him. He'd been waving > to people up at the edge of the road (in 98 degree heat no less - I > didn't envy him one bit), but he had wisely gone on break and I didn't > have time to wait around for him to come back out. > > A really fun experience, and I'll likely visit another location for > dinner tonight. At least then I won't have to rush back to work > and can just hang out (in suit) for a while before going home. > > Cheers, > Santa Fox > > --- > Santa Fox's Den - http://www.jinglefox.com/ > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > From thesnomad at hotmail.com Fri Jul 9 16:41:46 2010 From: thesnomad at hotmail.com (Jakk Snomad) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 16:41:46 -0400 Subject: FL: Chick-Fil-A Dress Like A Cow Day: Friday 7/9 In-Reply-To: <1636852732.2676711278704763677.JavaMail.root@sz0174a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1636852732.2676711278704763677.JavaMail.root@sz0174a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Oh also, one more thing, PETA is known to wear fursuits and go harass restaurants, so having someone show up in a non-accepted fursuit could set off their warning bells, like when they asked you what organization you were with. That's another way to make them not want to let us do our thing. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Santa Fox" Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 3:46 PM To: Subject: Re: FL: Chick-Fil-A Dress Like A Cow Day: Friday 7/9 > ----- Zack F wrote: >> Glad to hear you had a good time despite the issue with that manager! >> >> A friend and I emailed our local Chik-fil-A for permission and got turned >> down. I actually did mention being part of an organization (Hi-4 in this > > Yeah, it's definitely all about the cows, although I know that people > with bull costumes have successfully visited CFAs on Dress Like a Cow > day. Any other kind of costume is most likely going to be treated like > it would be any other day of the year. > > I will dare say that the chain and/or promotion is very popular here in > Atlanta (the home of Chick-Fil-A). I never made it into the parking lot > of the first CFA I went to for lunch, as cars were lined up out in the > street trying to get in. The second location I tried was pretty busy, > too, but I got into the lot and found a space. > > My cow was a big hit with the restaurant staff, and I even got to greet > a small group of kids who I think mistook me for the official CFA cow > character. I ate my free meal while still in the costume (I specially > designed the costume for this purpose), then went outside to look for > the official cow so I could surprise and greet him. He'd been waving > to people up at the edge of the road (in 98 degree heat no less - I > didn't envy him one bit), but he had wisely gone on break and I didn't > have time to wait around for him to come back out. > > A really fun experience, and I'll likely visit another location for > dinner tonight. At least then I won't have to rush back to work > and can just hang out (in suit) for a while before going home. > > Cheers, > Santa Fox > > --- > Santa Fox's Den - http://www.jinglefox.com/ > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > From skippy at sk1p.com Fri Jul 9 17:18:00 2010 From: skippy at sk1p.com (Zack F) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 17:18:00 -0400 Subject: FL: Chick-Fil-A Dress Like A Cow Day: Friday 7/9 In-Reply-To: References: <1636852732.2676711278704763677.JavaMail.root@sz0174a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <001a01cb1fac$3c9ded90$b5d9c8b0$@com> I'm not sure if you're addressing this toward me or to Scape? If the question is directed toward me then yes, you are mistaken: Before doing something questionable on someone else's property I extended the courtesy of asking for permission first. The request was politely denied (though the restaurant wants to keep in touch for possible future appearances), and that was the end of the story. I did not argue, complain, question the decision, claim that this person was wrong, or appear anyway. I did nothing of that sort on this list or off of it. I did not even think about appearing after that point. I respected the decision and followed the rules, just as I would expect every other respectable person, fursuiter or not, to do. I merely mentioned it in response to Scape's experience, in which he was -granted- permission beforehand, but asked to leave anyway. It sounds like he complied with the request, as frustrating as it was, and I believe he made the right choice. --skippy -----Original Message----- From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Jakk Snomad Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:40 PM To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: Re: FL: Chick-Fil-A Dress Like A Cow Day: Friday 7/9 I'm just wondering why it seemed so hard/unreasonable for Chik-Fil-A to require people to show up in a -cow- suit and not some other species of fursuit? The manager who told you your non-cow/bull suit wasn't eligible for the free food was completely right, unless I misunderstood you. Fursuiting is not a free pass, no matter how cute or realistic your suit is. I only mention this because it's hard enough to go fursuiting at restaurants and other such places that when a place allows us to do it, not following their rules could make them not want to do it anymore, cutting off one more way for us to enjoy fursuiting around town. :/ -------------------------------------------------- From: "Santa Fox" Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 3:46 PM To: Subject: Re: FL: Chick-Fil-A Dress Like A Cow Day: Friday 7/9 > ----- Zack F wrote: >> Glad to hear you had a good time despite the issue with that manager! >> >> A friend and I emailed our local Chik-fil-A for permission and got turned >> down. I actually did mention being part of an organization (Hi-4 in this > > Yeah, it's definitely all about the cows, although I know that people > with bull costumes have successfully visited CFAs on Dress Like a Cow > day. Any other kind of costume is most likely going to be treated like > it would be any other day of the year. > > I will dare say that the chain and/or promotion is very popular here in > Atlanta (the home of Chick-Fil-A). I never made it into the parking lot > of the first CFA I went to for lunch, as cars were lined up out in the > street trying to get in. The second location I tried was pretty busy, > too, but I got into the lot and found a space. > > My cow was a big hit with the restaurant staff, and I even got to greet > a small group of kids who I think mistook me for the official CFA cow > character. I ate my free meal while still in the costume (I specially > designed the costume for this purpose), then went outside to look for > the official cow so I could surprise and greet him. He'd been waving > to people up at the edge of the road (in 98 degree heat no less - I > didn't envy him one bit), but he had wisely gone on break and I didn't > have time to wait around for him to come back out. > > A really fun experience, and I'll likely visit another location for > dinner tonight. At least then I won't have to rush back to work > and can just hang out (in suit) for a while before going home. > > Cheers, > Santa Fox > > --- > Santa Fox's Den - http://www.jinglefox.com/ > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list From fox at flyingfox.biz Fri Jul 9 19:41:26 2010 From: fox at flyingfox.biz (Fox Kinsman) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 19:41:26 -0400 Subject: FL: Chick-Fil-A Dress Like A Cow Day: Friday 7/9 In-Reply-To: <001a01cb1fac$3c9ded90$b5d9c8b0$@com> References: <1636852732.2676711278704763677.JavaMail.root@sz0174a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <001a01cb1fac$3c9ded90$b5d9c8b0$@com> Message-ID: <5822CF42-2310-444E-A09B-21756A61909B@flyingfox.biz> yeah I talked with one manager ahead of time and a different one kicked me out. I hung out with the "cows" afterward and they were all stoked about the visit -they actually frequent a studio I work at for local commercials and had heard about "the goat" before so they were glad to meet him ^^ Yeah bummer of a moment after such a happy moment but -I mean, it happens all the time in fursuiting -there are just going to be people out there that don't dig it -my undiggable time today just happened to be fairly epic fail hahhaha ah well ~Scape On Jul 9, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Zack F wrote: I'm not sure if you're addressing this toward me or to Scape? If the question is directed toward me then yes, you are mistaken: Before doing something questionable on someone else's property I extended the courtesy of asking for permission first. The request was politely denied (though the restaurant wants to keep in touch for possible future appearances), and that was the end of the story. I did not argue, complain, question the decision, claim that this person was wrong, or appear anyway. I did nothing of that sort on this list or off of it. I did not even think about appearing after that point. I respected the decision and followed the rules, just as I would expect every other respectable person, fursuiter or not, to do. I merely mentioned it in response to Scape's experience, in which he was -granted- permission beforehand, but asked to leave anyway. It sounds like he complied with the request, as frustrating as it was, and I believe he made the right choice. --skippy -----Original Message----- From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Jakk Snomad Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:40 PM To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: Re: FL: Chick-Fil-A Dress Like A Cow Day: Friday 7/9 I'm just wondering why it seemed so hard/unreasonable for Chik-Fil-A to require people to show up in a -cow- suit and not some other species of fursuit? The manager who told you your non-cow/bull suit wasn't eligible for the free food was completely right, unless I misunderstood you. Fursuiting is not a free pass, no matter how cute or realistic your suit is. I only mention this because it's hard enough to go fursuiting at restaurants and other such places that when a place allows us to do it, not following their rules could make them not want to do it anymore, cutting off one more way for us to enjoy fursuiting around town. :/ -------------------------------------------------- From: "Santa Fox" Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 3:46 PM To: Subject: Re: FL: Chick-Fil-A Dress Like A Cow Day: Friday 7/9 > ----- Zack F wrote: >> Glad to hear you had a good time despite the issue with that manager! >> >> A friend and I emailed our local Chik-fil-A for permission and got >> turned >> down. I actually did mention being part of an organization (Hi-4 >> in this > > Yeah, it's definitely all about the cows, although I know that people > with bull costumes have successfully visited CFAs on Dress Like a Cow > day. Any other kind of costume is most likely going to be treated > like > it would be any other day of the year. > > I will dare say that the chain and/or promotion is very popular > here in > Atlanta (the home of Chick-Fil-A). I never made it into the > parking lot > of the first CFA I went to for lunch, as cars were lined up out in the > street trying to get in. The second location I tried was pretty busy, > too, but I got into the lot and found a space. > > My cow was a big hit with the restaurant staff, and I even got to > greet > a small group of kids who I think mistook me for the official CFA cow > character. I ate my free meal while still in the costume (I specially > designed the costume for this purpose), then went outside to look for > the official cow so I could surprise and greet him. He'd been waving > to people up at the edge of the road (in 98 degree heat no less - I > didn't envy him one bit), but he had wisely gone on break and I didn't > have time to wait around for him to come back out. > > A really fun experience, and I'll likely visit another location for > dinner tonight. At least then I won't have to rush back to work > and can just hang out (in suit) for a while before going home. > > Cheers, > Santa Fox > > --- > Santa Fox's Den - http://www.jinglefox.com/ > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/ listinfo/fursuit-list From donkeyears at gmail.com Fri Jul 9 20:13:38 2010 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 17:13:38 -0700 Subject: FL: Chick-Fil-A Dress Like A Cow Day: Friday 7/9 In-Reply-To: <001a01cb1fac$3c9ded90$b5d9c8b0$@com> References: <1636852732.2676711278704763677.JavaMail.root@sz0174a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <001a01cb1fac$3c9ded90$b5d9c8b0$@com> Message-ID: I just got back from an hour drive each way to go to the closes Chick Fil-A to me. I had a blast wearing B.S. Bullatauras in the restraint . I did have a big worry. The restraint was inside an enclosed major national mall and such malls are well known for being anti masked people. I sent in my handler to find the restraint inside the mall wail I sat in the car. He found the fastest way in so I can get into the restraint before the mall security could kick me out. I spent some time inside the restraint having lots of people including I think everyone that worked there have there photo taken with me. When I was ready to leave I left as quickly as I could. One of the employees made the comment that she thought that my costume was a great deal better than the one that they had. I have seen the costume in photos and I could not have agreed more. Also I was asked where I bought my costume. The person was floored when my handler said that I made it my self. You can find two of the photos here http://www.furaffinity.net/user/donkey/ His Most Royal Highass, Donkey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From smorizio at hotmail.com Fri Jul 9 20:53:01 2010 From: smorizio at hotmail.com (steven morizio) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 20:53:01 -0400 Subject: FL: Constructing "Metal" In-Reply-To: <1512889953.32251.1278722571056.JavaMail.root@sz0117a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1512889953.32251.1278722571056.JavaMail.root@sz0117a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: try looking into hoola hoops and coutch foam. then use hvac foil to cover the foam. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Mezzobean at aol.com Fri Jul 9 21:02:14 2010 From: Mezzobean at aol.com (Mezzobean at aol.com) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 21:02:14 EDT Subject: FL: Constructing "Metal" Message-ID: How about using one of those giant heavy paperboard forms used for casting cement pillars? A construction comapny near you might have a leftover odd piece or two your size . . . Good luck - Jean Schwartz In a message dated 7/9/2010 8:43:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, crimsonfox at comcast.net writes: Hey all, I'm playing the TInman in an upcoming "Wizard of Oz" show and I'm looking for ideas for how to create a costume. The main thing is the torso piece looking "tincanish", big and cylindrical and stiff, yet movable. And I do have a couple of falls in the show so it has to be made of stuff that won't hurt me when I fall onto it. .Any tips or hints for this? 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Sounds like everyone did their best to be positive and have a good time. Sorry it didn't work out as well as it should've. Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 17:13:38 -0700 From: donkeyears at gmail.com To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: Re: FL: Chick-Fil-A Dress Like A Cow Day: Friday 7/9 I just got back from an hour drive each way to go to the closes Chick Fil-A to me. I had a blast wearing B.S. Bullatauras in the restraint . I did have a big worry. The restraint was inside an enclosed major national mall and such malls are well known for being anti masked people. I sent in my handler to find the restraint inside the mall wail I sat in the car. He found the fastest way in so I can get into the restraint before the mall security could kick me out. I spent some time inside the restraint having lots of people including I think everyone that worked there have there photo taken with me. When I was ready to leave I left as quickly as I could. One of the employees made the comment that she thought that my costume was a great deal better than the one that they had. I have seen the costume in photos and I could not have agreed more. Also I was asked where I bought my costume. The person was floored when my handler said that I made it my self. You can find two of the photos here http://www.furaffinity.net/user/donkey/ His Most Royal Highass, Donkey _________________________________________________________________ Turn down-time into play-time with Messenger games http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734385 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From superhedgie at googlemail.com Sat Jul 10 01:51:31 2010 From: superhedgie at googlemail.com (Hedge T Hog) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 06:51:31 +0100 Subject: FL: Fursuit Soccer Message-ID: Has anyone ever considered setting up a Fursuit Soccer League at a con? A simple 5-a-side Tournament could be done in a large room. It would just need some cheap goals, from a Sports Shop, and an large inflatable soccer ball. A real one would be too dangerous and too small to play with in Fursuits. I think it could work quite well. International games like UK vs USA, France vs Germany etc would certainly be fun. The Hedge -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From recherei at yahoo.com Sat Jul 10 02:46:48 2010 From: recherei at yahoo.com (Recherei) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 23:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: Constructing "Metal" In-Reply-To: <1512889953.32251.1278722571056.JavaMail.root@sz0117a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <758261.94242.qm@web50906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Try Googling "Tin Man Costume" ? There are holoween level costumes for sale and instructions on how to build your own. ? Find out what theatre groups have done "The Wizard of Oz" in say, the last five years.? They may have a costume they have no need of.? They would have good leads on where to find one.? (That's how most theatre groups operate due to limited time and money.? I can't tell you how many times "Little Shop of Horrors" was produced using the same plant puppets.) --- On Fri, 7/9/10, crimsonfox at comcast.net wrote: From: crimsonfox at comcast.net Subject: FL: Constructing "Metal" To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 8:42 PM #yiv1961708244 p {margin:0;} Hey all, I'm playing the TInman in an upcoming "Wizard of Oz" show and I'm looking for ideas for how to create a costume. The main thing is the torso piece looking "tincanish", big and cylindrical and stiff, yet movable. And I do have a couple of falls in the show so it has to be made of stuff that won't hurt me when I fall onto it. .Any tips or hints for this? Thanks Sir Crimson Fox crimsonfox at comcast.net -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From imperium23 at gmail.com Sat Jul 10 03:00:49 2010 From: imperium23 at gmail.com (imperium23) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 03:00:49 -0400 Subject: FL: Fursuit Soccer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I absolutely love this idea and it would definitely inspire me to finish the last touches on my suit!!! Nico the skunkettte On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Hedge T Hog wrote: > Has anyone ever considered setting up a Fursuit Soccer League at a con? A > simple 5-a-side Tournament could be done in a large room. It would just need > some cheap goals, from a Sports Shop, and an large inflatable soccer ball. 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URL: From recherei at yahoo.com Sat Jul 10 03:36:07 2010 From: recherei at yahoo.com (Recherei) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 00:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: Chick-Fil-A Dress Like A Cow Day: Friday 7/9 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <604867.46078.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I agree, Spell Check is great.? But it's not a substitute for proof-reading.? I was trying to figure out what sort of restraint was on your fursuit. ? rech --- On Fri, 7/9/10, Donkey wrote: From: Donkey Subject: Re: FL: Chick-Fil-A Dress Like A Cow Day: Friday 7/9 To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 8:13 PM I just got back from an hour drive each way to go to the closes Chick Fil-A to me. I had a blast wearing B.S. Bullatauras in the restraint . I did have a big worry. The restraint was inside an enclosed major national mall and such malls are well known for being anti masked people. I sent in my handler to find the restraint inside the mall wail I sat in the car. He found the fastest way in so I can get into the restraint before the mall security could kick me out. I spent some time inside the restraint having lots of people including I think everyone that worked there have there photo taken with me. When I was ready to leave I left as quickly as I could. One of the employees made the comment that she thought that my costume was a great deal better than the one that they had. I have seen the costume in photos and I could not have agreed more. Also I was asked where I bought my costume. The person was floored when my handler said that I made it my self. You can find two of the photos here http://www.furaffinity.net/user/donkey/ His Most Royal Highass, Donkey -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donkeyears at gmail.com Sat Jul 10 09:55:21 2010 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 06:55:21 -0700 Subject: FL: Fursuit Soccer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nice idea, but it would not work at most fur cons because of the lack of space. The only fur con that I have been to that could pull that off inside would be AC. It could be done out side if there was a park very close to the hotel. On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Hedge T Hog wrote: > Has anyone ever considered setting up a Fursuit Soccer League at a con? A > simple 5-a-side Tournament could be done in a large room. It would just need > some cheap goals, from a Sports Shop, and an large inflatable soccer ball. A > real one would be too dangerous and too small to play with in Fursuits. > > I think it could work quite well. International games like UK vs USA, > France vs Germany etc would certainly be fun. > > The Hedge > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donkeyears at gmail.com Sat Jul 10 10:06:04 2010 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 07:06:04 -0700 Subject: FL: Chick-Fil-A Dress Like A Cow Day: Friday 7/9 In-Reply-To: <604867.46078.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <604867.46078.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Its totally shameful and humiliating that my spelling is so bad that I never realized that I used the wrong word. If it was not for the spell checker no one would have any clue what I was trying to say. On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Recherei wrote: > > I agree, Spell Check is great. But it's not a substitute for proof-reading. I was trying to figure out what sort of restraint was on your fursuit. > > rech > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bj at bjbuttons.com Sat Jul 10 10:22:56 2010 From: bj at bjbuttons.com (BJButtons) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 09:22:56 -0500 Subject: FL: Fursuit Soccer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C388240.2040202@bjbuttons.com> MFM did a variation of this a few years ago during the fursuit games. They played Fursut foosball :) > Nice idea, but it would not work at most fur cons because of the lack > of space. The only fur con that I have been to that could pull that > off inside would be AC. It could be done out side if there was a park > very close to the hotel. > > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Hedge T Hog > > wrote: > > Has anyone ever considered setting up a Fursuit Soccer League at a > con? A simple 5-a-side Tournament could be done in a large room. > It would just need some cheap goals, from a Sports Shop, and an > large inflatable soccer ball. A real one would be too dangerous > and too small to play with in Fursuits. > > I think it could work quite well. International games like UK vs > USA, France vs Germany etc would certainly be fun. > > The Hedge > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > From recherei at yahoo.com Sat Jul 10 10:32:21 2010 From: recherei at yahoo.com (Recherei) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 07:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: Fursuit Soccer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <558251.63664.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Why not save time and just have everyone meet-up at the hospital? ? r --- On Sat, 7/10/10, Hedge T Hog wrote: From: Hedge T Hog Subject: FL: Fursuit Soccer To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Date: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 1:51 AM Has anyone ever considered setting up a Fursuit Soccer League at a con? A simple 5-a-side Tournament could be done in a large room. It would just need some cheap goals, from a Sports Shop, and an large inflatable soccer ball. A real one would be too dangerous and too small to play with in Fursuits. ? I think it could work quite well. International games like UK vs USA, France vs Germany etc would certainly be fun. ? The Hedge -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From recherei at yahoo.com Sat Jul 10 11:56:00 2010 From: recherei at yahoo.com (Recherei) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: Fursuit Soccer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8938.18850.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> You bring up a good point, but I was more concerned with heat exhaustion. --- On Sat, 7/10/10, Donkey wroteBut if you do that that really cute male nurse wont be making a big fuss all over you about your ouchies. On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Recherei wrote: Why not save time and just have everyone meet-up at the hospital? ? r -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From superhedgie at googlemail.com Sat Jul 10 12:57:00 2010 From: superhedgie at googlemail.com (Hedge T Hog) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 17:57:00 +0100 Subject: FL: Fursuit Soccer References: <8938.18850.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <178317D02A6148E7A8C10F9D7154DE7F@DarkKahn> 5-a-side soccer has halves that are only 10 minutes long. The games would last about half an hour. 10 minutes per side, with 10 minutes at half-time. ----- Original Message ----- From: Donkey To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 5:08 PM Subject: Re: FL: Fursuit Soccer Yes. Ouchies are part of the course with fursuiting but heat exhaustion is not something that you want to fool around with. On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Recherei wrote: You bring up a good point, but I was more concerned with heat exhaustion. --- On Sat, 7/10/10, Donkey wroteBut if you do that that really cute male nurse wont be making a big fuss all over you about your ouchies. 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URL: From superhedgie at googlemail.com Sun Jul 11 02:14:53 2010 From: superhedgie at googlemail.com (Hedge T Hog) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 07:14:53 +0100 Subject: FL: Fursuit Soccer Message-ID: 5-a-side soccer has halves that are only 10 minutes long. The games would last about half an hour. 10 minutes per side, with 10 minutes at half-time. ----- Original Message ----- From: Donkey To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 5:08 PM Subject: Re: FL: Fursuit Soccer Yes. Ouchies are part of the course with fursuiting but heat exhaustion is not something that you want to fool around with. On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Recherei wrote: You bring up a good point, but I was more concerned with heat exhaustion. --- On Sat, 7/10/10, Donkey wroteBut if you do that that really cute male nurse wont be making a big fuss all over you about your ouchies. 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URL: From rtrabbitny at aol.com Wed Jul 14 18:12:25 2010 From: rtrabbitny at aol.com (rtrabbitny at aol.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:12:25 -0400 Subject: FL: Reminder: Long Island Ducks Mascot Day signup deadline approaching Message-ID: <8CCF1B8C66C8611-F24-3D51@webmail-m088.sysops.aol.com> The August 6 signup deadline for this event is fast approaching but so far I haven't really heard from anybody committing to take part. Next to the Ocean City NJ DooDah Parade, this is the second largest open-invite costume character event between the NYC area and NJ shore to which we have always been welcomed back at for well over a decade so please join up! Details reposted below: *****Long Island Ducks Mascot Day - Sunday August 22 (confirmed)******* The official invites for Quacker Jack's Mascot Day at the Long Island Ducks baseball game have been sent out. The game will be the Sunday August 22 versus Newark Bears, first pitch shortly after 5pm. That would make call time 3pm. The Ducks play at CitiField in Central Islip NY in Suffolk County. The regular baseball game will be preceded by the traditional mascot dodgeball game. Between innings of the regular baseball game, guest mascots will be taking part in some of the on-field promotions. I don't know if this will involve us--in past years sometimes it has, other times only the commercial characters took part. The rest of the game of course will be free open meet & greet throughout the ballpark. RSVP's due by August 6. If you haven't participated in this event before, please furnish me with full contact info (RL name and phone #'s..required by the ballclub), name of character you're appearing as and any "fun facts"/interests about same that can be read by the announcer when we are introduced on-field. Unless anyone else individually requests otherwise, we are still known by them as being "from the Rapid T. Rabbit and Friends TV Show". For returning characters, I will use any information that I have on file previously but be sure I have updated phone numbers from everybody. This is a major event with an excellent family audience that welcomes all the friendly characters that we can throw at them so please join us! From mhagen_2001 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 22 00:27:16 2010 From: mhagen_2001 at yahoo.com (Patch) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: Large plaster casting, continued Message-ID: <983127.97601.qm@web50306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Here's some photos of my watermelon casting attempt. http://www.flickr.com/photos/10927435 at N05/sets/72157624430917375/ Can't figure out how to keep the foam latex from squeezing out the mold halves. The rest of it looks ok, though. --Patch ******************************************* Homer: That baby-proofing crook wanted to sell us safety covers for the electrical outlets. But I'll just draw bunny faces on them to scare Maggie away. Marge: She's not afraid of bunnies. Homer: (ominously) She will be. From tygrcwby at hotmail.com Wed Jul 28 17:09:26 2010 From: tygrcwby at hotmail.com (Christopher "Tyger" Roth) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:09:26 -0500 Subject: FL: MFM Pre-Reg ends THIS Saturday 8/1 - ONLY 10 rooms left in the main hotel! Message-ID: MFM 14 - Welcome Home To Where The Wild Things Are - Southern Style!! *****PRE-REG ENDS 8/1 - ONLY 10 ROOMS LEFT AT THE MAIN HOTEL!!***** Labor Day Weekend 2010 - September 3 - 5 Guest of Honor: Razzek - http://razzek.deviantart.com/ It will be here before we know it when Tyger will open MFM 14 with these words "Welcome Home". That's right, we are quickly approaching the start of Mephit Fur Meet 2010, the place so many of us now call home. Make your plans now to attend one of the BEST gatherings in the furry community. This year what better way to welcome you home with our theme "Where The Wild Things - Southern Style! There is no wilder bunch than then Furs and we at MFM are all about showing Southern Hospitality! Fun, Furs, Friends and a lot of surprises! Yes, Welcome Home brings a very special meaning to this year's MFM!! We are please to now call The Whispering Woods Hotel & Conference Center our new home. How many other Furry gatherings do you know can claim to having their own 175 acre retreat center to call home?! http://www.wwconferencecenter.com/ See below for booking instructions and special information - You MUST book your room directly with the hotel! --=={ Hotel Reservation Info, Rooms Going Fast! - ONLY 10 ROOMS LEFT AS OF 7/28 }==-- *ALL SUITES ARE SOLD OUT*ROOMS AT MAIN HOTEL ALMOST SOLD OUT* I have been working hard with the hotel to clear up a few duplicate room reservations and also we have been able to get the block of rooms being held for another group (they were moved to the sister hotel of WW) But once this last block of rooms is gone they will be GONE!!! The hotel will be taking a waitlist and I will be working with them to get the reservations confirmed at the Fairfield Inn that is also on property (about a block across the lawn from the main hotel) MFM will be at our new home this year! Welcome to Whispering Woods Hotel & Conference Center! http://www.wwconferencecenter.com Set in the midst of 175 beautifully wooded acres, Whispering Woods Hotel and Conference Center is the ideal place to get down to business. Whispering Woods, located on the outskirts of Memphis, Tennessee, is the perfect place.Whispering Woods proudly features 181 newly renovated guest rooms, over 40,000 square feet of first class meeting space and the areas finest catered cuisine. All this and more within an easy drive of Memphis International Airport, the famous Beale Street music scene and the nations 3rd largest casino market, Tunica, Mississippi. Each of our spacious, newly renovated guestrooms and parlor suites at Whispering Woods were designed and tastefully appointed with your comfort in mind. You'll appreciate the numerous in-room conveniences. Features include electronic door locks, hair dryers, irons and ironing boards, radio alarm clocks, coffee makers, premium cable television and in-room movies, well lighted work area, phone with voice mail, call waiting and data port, hi-speed wireless Internet access, on-demand climate control and full length blackout drapes. Every room features sliding glass doors leading out to a balcony overlooking the beautiful grounds. In response to customer preference, Whispering Woods became a smoke free establishment effective January 1, 2007. There is no smoking anywhere inside the hotel facility. However, designated outdoor smoking locations are available at the numerous entrances to the hotel. THE HOTEL DOES CHARGE A $150 FEE IF CAUGHT SMOKING IN YOUR ROOM Whispering Woods DOES allow ADA qualified service animals ONLY. Please let then know when you are making your reservation you will have a service animal. Relax in our new outdoor swimming pool and shoot some hoops on our basketball court. In addition, the hotel provides a gazebo and open space for scavenger hunts or team building activities. Indoors, get a complete workout in our fitness room equipped with treadmills, and elliptical bicycle. Whispering Woods Hotel and Conference Center is situated just minutes from Memphis, TN in Olive Branch, Mississippi. Convenient and accessible to Interstates 240, 55 and 40 (15 minutes), Memphis International Airport MEM (20 minutes), and Downtown/Graceland/Beale Street (25 minutes), getting to Whispering Woods has never been easier. The Hacks Cross entrance to Whispering Woods is now traffic light controlled making access into the hotel easier and safer. A green "Whispering Woods Hotel" directional sign is mounted next to the traffic light. Complimentary airport shuttle service is available to and from Memphis International Airport from 7:00 am to 10:30 pm daily. All transportation arrangements MUST be made 24 hours in advance with the hotel's front desk staff for your return trip contact the front desk 24 hours prior to departure to arrange return transportation to Memphis International Airport. Please call 662-895-2941 to make a reservation Mon-Fri 7 am - 10 pm. Whispering Woods Hotel and Conference Center 11200 East Goodman Road Olive Branch, MS 38654 Telephone: (662) 895-2941 Fax: (662) 895-1590 --=={ Registration }==-- We know it's all fun and games, but hey, we have to pay our bills too! That's where registration comes in. We strive to keep our prices low and have not had a price increase in over 6 years. We know you work hard to earn your money, so we try to give you the most bang for your con-going buck. Not only do we have a regular membership, but if you have some more money to spend and want to help out the convention, sign up for one of our higher levels. We'll even give you some nice thank you gifts for giving us your extra dough. Registration for MFM is now open. Please go to our website to register: http://www.mephitfurmeet.org/register SUPPORTING: Include a tshirt and program mailed to you. Does NOT include a membership for you to attend the convention but does allow you to pay a reduced price of $20 at the door for a total admission of $35. $15 ATTENDING: Includes a free tshirt and admission to the ice cream social Now to August 1, 2010: $35 SPONSORSHIP: Includes a limited edition print and a special special thank you gift $60 SUPERSPONSORSHIP: Includes everything above AND your print is framed, you get a cocktail party with the GOH AND a special Supersponsor shirt $100 Please remember, all attendees MUST present photo identification (driver's license, passport, college or military I.D.) when registering/checking in at the event. There will be ABSOLUTELY NO EXCEPTIONS MADE. Also anyone under 18 must be accompanied by a parent or guardian or have a notarized letter giving them permission to be at MFM (email mfmdirector at hotmail.com with any questions) --=={ MFM Needs You! }==-- MFM needs volunteers, are you interested in helping make MFM 14 the best Furmeet ever? You can earn time and a half for helping initial set-up and teardown Thursday and Monday. So, for every 1 hour you work those days, you earn 1.5 hours! More info can be found here: http://www.mephitfurmeet.org/volunteering --=={ Room and Rideshare Board! }==-- Need a Ride to MFM? Need a place to sleep when you get there? On our web page http://www.mephitfurmeet.org you can post a message on the room and ride share lists and find all you need --=={ Tiger Haven Auction }==-- Tiger Haven is a safe haven for big cats. Tiger Haven rescues large cats such as lions, tigers, and panthers from all over the United States. These big cats may be anything from older circus or zoo cats, to cats that were obtained illegally or were neglected or abused. Once these cats have been rescued by Tiger Haven, they have a forever home. Tiger Haven is a no kill shelter that does not sell or breed their cats. Tiger Haven started with just one cat many years ago and has grown to over 250 big cats. All these cats require enclosures to live in, food and veterinary care. These costs add up and care for each cat costs thousands each year. Tiger Haven is a nonprofit organization, which means that they rely on donations from caring individuals. The auction held each year at Mephit Fur Meet is often the largest single contributer to Tiger Haven. Beyond the normal care for the big cats, the money raised at MFM has built multiple enclosures for Tiger Haven. These are nice enclosures that become a forever home for a big cat in need. Tiger Haven is located in eastern Tennessee and usually affords MFM a couple of their long time workers to be with us at MFM and at the charity auction. This is not a nameless, faceless organization that we are blindly helping. These workers will happily answer any questions you have about Tiger Haven. These people work hard everyday to ensure these big cats have a safe and comfortable home for life. Money or items donated to the charity auction held every year at MFM all go directly to Tiger Haven to be used to help these big cats in need. These big cats cannot personally thank you but their appreciation for their great care is seen everyday by the workers of Tiger Haven. On behalf of these big cats who now enjoy a safe home in the caring walls of Tiger Haven we wish to thank you for any help you can give. --=={ Programming }==-- Schedule is ONLINE!!!! Check the website for details! http://mephitfurmeet.org/2010Schedule --=={ MFM Critter ConSuite }==-- This year's Critter ConSuite will once again have a wide variety of snackies for this year's attendees with the traditional Cafe Karina Bagel Breakfast on Saturday and Sunday. Karina is contemplating ways of integrating this year's theme into both decor and food. Suggestions will be cheerfully welcomed and considered. --=={ MFM Masquerade }==-- MFM wouldn't be the same without the Masq. Never fear though, there will be a Masq this year. If you are a fursuiter or pawpetter you are invited to join in and present an act. Just contact Blue Heeler SunFire for any details or information. It's fun and exciting. The sound echo'd around the town. The whistle, that same whistle that always meant the same thing. This time, it was different. Well, the whistle wasn't different, the fox running down the street towards the whistle was different. He was late, yes, that's what the whistle meant, he was late. As he rounded the corner, he could see it. The boat was slowly back paddling away from the shore. He cried out, and fortunatly the deck workers noticed him and didn't fully raise the gang plank. There was a few shaken hands between them as the fox got closer and closer. He took the pack off his back and tossed it, hitting the ramp as with practice. He then jumped himself, arms flailing. There was much discussion on the deck of the boat, until the fox pulled himself up on the ramp. Some coins changed hands as one of the gentleman stepped forward to the fox. "Someday, You won't make it." The boats whistle chimed off again as the mighty ship started down the lazy river. "But you made it this time, welcome home." The deckhand patted the fox on the back and lead him towards the interior. --- That's right, time is approaching for those immortal words, "Welcome Home." Of course with thoughts of MFM coming up, the famous Masquerade is also approaching. Time is shorter than you might think, so make sure you are planning and preparing for the excellent acts that always grace our stage. Of course, our sound doggy would like to remind you that you should bring a CD or USB thing with only your song on it. Double check your song on a different source than you recorded it on to make sure it works regardless. I will have the sign up on Friday night, and would like to know what acts are being planned. Sunday is practice then the performance. The theme of this year is Southern Hospitality. -- Blue Heeler SunFire --=={ MFM First Aid Hints! }==-- Greetings from the land of cold weather!! After a nice, cold, snowy winter here in Pittsburgh, I wanted to take a moment to remind everyone of some very important things. We on the Medical staff are here to help you have a healthy and incident free con experience. With that in mind, we would like to remind everyone that as wild as the weather can be, MFM has traditionally been very hot and humid. PLEASE drink plenty of water. I know spending time in fursuit is fun and that some suiters see this as what they should do the entire con. We want you all to have fun and enjoy yourselves, but please take advantage of the Headless Lounge to stop for a while and cool off and drink something. And for our non suiters, feel free to drop by the con suite and grab something to drink. Its easy during these times to get some very serious medical problems, including heat exhaustion and heat stroke. And please remember to have a fair sized meal during the day, your body will need all the energy it can get to enjoy all the fun activities that are planned. On a personal note, i would like to encourage everyone who takes medication to make yourself a list of all your medications and allergies and keep them near your license/ID just in the worst case we have to have someone taken by ambulance. We just want everyone to have a good time. Again, please remember that we are here to help you, so if you need medical assistance with something, find any member of staff and ask them to contact the medical team. Thank you all and I hope to see you all there. Also, the medical staff does not have any drugs. We do not carry Aspirin or Tylenol or Motrin or Advil or Bennadryl. If you have allergies or headaches or anything else you need medication for, please bring it. On behalf of the entire staff, the medical staff would like again to welcome you home to our new home, Whispering Woods. Our Medical head, Goliath, who has been coming to MFM since MFM 2004, and is a practicing paramedic and paramedic instructor, would like to announce that this year he is proud to have restructured the medical staff to serve you better. He would like to welcome Ashley Fox and Tigeris Tiger, his assistants, and the rest of his staff to a new beginning and new procedures. If you are experiencing any medical issues at the convention, feel free to stop by Con Ops on the Mezzanine level and ask for a medical staff member. We will have a dedicated room to discuss things with you and try to do our best to help you out of public con space where everyone could crowd around you. Also, any staff member can contact the medical staff, so if you're out and about and need a member of medical, find any staff member and ask them to contact us. If you have medical experience and would be interested in helping out at various times during the con, please come by Con Ops and talk to Goliath. If he isn't there when you stop by, please leave some contact information with either the med/security dispatcher or with any other Ops personnel and they will get it to him. Goliath --=={ MFM Security Information }==-- Your MFM Security staff is diligently preparing for our first convention in our new home. You can easily recognize security staff at the convention by looking for the bright Animal Control Vests they wear. Please take a moment to read our code of conduct, and ask for clarification on any rule you are unsure of. This is going to be our BEST year yet, and your Security staff will be there keeping watch. Even though we have moved to an area with a substantially lower crime rate, there are some basic things you can do to protect your personal belongings whenever you travel. Remove all valuables from your car. This includes GPS, Cell Phones, computers, and even radar detectors. Do not have items out in the open to temp passersby. Lock your doors, both car and hotel room, and do not leave cash or valuables out in the open in your room. Following these simple precautions can help make your MFM 2010 an enjoyable weekend. Are you interested in working with Security at the con? Just contact our Volunteer Coordinator and request security. See you at MFM Alex --=={ Mailing Lists }==-- General chat for those interested in or attending MFM 2005 can be found at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mfm-chat We also have direct mailing lists for news and related posts regarding MFM. This information can be found on our website. Also on our website is a new and improved message board system where you can post your thoughts. MFM 14...BE THERE!!!! SO Get ready..get set..GET REGISTERED!!!! From frysco-sender-6f5fe9 at gryphonic.org Thu Aug 5 14:32:56 2010 From: frysco-sender-6f5fe9 at gryphonic.org (Francisco Azinsan) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 13:32:56 -0500 Subject: FL: FC2011 August Newsletter Message-ID: <20100805183256.GA84589@critter.net> FC 2011 August Newsletter In this issue: 1. Convention Dates Changed 2. Hotel News 3. Registration Price Change 4. Badge Art Wanted! 5. Art Show Sales Open 6. Dealer Room Waiting List Application on website 7. Furry Market Place spaces go on sale starting August 1st 1. Convention Dates Changed The dates for our 2011 convention have changed. We now have the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday (U.S.) weekend dates of January 13th - 17th. Please be sure your travel, hotel reservations dates, and vacation requests match up with our new dates. 2. Hotel News Standard rooms: The Fairmont has sold out of rooms in the main building. Single and double-bed rooms at the $153/night rate are still available in the new tower. Fursuit floor: The fursuit floors are now sold out. Party floor: Party floor rooms are still available! See the Party Floor Policy before requesting a room - Suites: Suites in both towers are still available. We will be announcing the availability of rooms at our overflow hotel, the St. Claire, in the near future. The St. Claire is only a short walk from the Fairmont. 3. Registration price change Register Today! If you haven't pre-registered for Further Confusion 2011, now is the time! Starting September 1st the price for pre-registration will go up to $45, so get signed up at today! 4. Badge Art Wanted! Further Confusion is currently seeking artwork submissions for the 2011 membership badge inserts. Both color and black & white artwork will be accepted, and all artwork will be considered on overall 'look and feel', plus these additional points: - Size: Art must scale to be printed at 4" x 2". - Theme: Art must accurately reflect the theme of the con. - Age appropriateness: The art must be suitable for viewing by children. Artists submitting images should be aware that there is no payment for badge art chosen, and the artist gives Further Confusion the right to reproduce the image as badge art for FC2011. The artist will be credited on the insert and in the con program book. The artist retains all other copyrights and reproduction rights beyond the above. Submission deadline is November 1st, 2010. All qualifying submissions will be seriously considered and we will choose 6 designs. All artists will be notified by December 1st as to whether or not their submissions have been chosen. Submission technical specs: We prefer JPG format at best possible quality compression, at 300 DPI. An 8" by 4" original scanned at 300DPI gives us a good file to work with. Badge art submissions should be sent to badge-art at furtherconfusion.org . In the email specify how you wish to be credited should your art be chosen. 5. Art Show Sales Open The art show sales are open! If you are interested in placing a piece, please see for the rules and an application form to be in the art show. 6. Dealer Room Waiting List Application on website The Further Confusion 2011 Dealer Room may be sold out, but that does NOT mean that there is no chance of you getting in. Usually around the end of the year we get at least a few cancellations, and when that happens we turn to the people that have sent in Waiting List Applications to fill those tables emptied in that manner. We make our selection from all applications present in the pool at the time of the cancellation. So for you best chance, get your application in as soon as possible. But remember, we can't make any promises that any tables will become available. The Waiting List will stop accepting applications on December 15th, 2010. 7. Furry Market Place spaces go on sale starting August 1st Yes, that's right, it's that time of year again. We are putting 20 Furry Market Place spaces up for sale starting August 1st. For full information on the limitations of this area (Like 'No Adult Material' and 'Set up and tear down daily') as well as the application you need to fill out and send in with payment, head over to the Further Confusion 2011 website. The application is in PDF format. Cost of a space is US$75.00. You MUST be at least 18 years of age, and you must have a valid CA Sales Permit (Free - there's a link to where you get them on the website) before you start sales on Friday of the convention. Again, all the information is on the website, and space IS limited. Sales will close when all 20 spaces are sold or December 15th, 2010, whichever comes first. (Unused spaces will either be removed from the layout or offered to our charities as additional display space.) 8. Next Staff Meeting Our next staff meeting will be on August 28th, starting at 1:00pm in the San Jose Fairmont. Check the lobby electronic sign for our room assignment. Parking is available in the surrounding area but is not free. The parking lot closest to the hotel will run $7 for the duration of the meeting. -- Further Confusion info at furtherconfusion.org From yappyfox at thefoxden.com Thu Aug 5 15:39:17 2010 From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (Yappy Sly Fox) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 15:39:17 -0400 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history Message-ID: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 After talking with Robert King at Anthrocon this year, we were discussing this mailing list. It seems that over the course of the years that the mail list started way back in the mid 90's, that mail list was the best method of transport for the time. As history progressed, and technologies improved, we say better and newer technologies evolve, that soon gained more ease of use and popularity. Live journal, wikipedia, furwiki, furaffinity, etc have all evolved to be a plethora of shocase for the thousands of fursuiters that are now making up the furry fandom. Far from the days of 30 or so stomping around those early days of confurence. It was thought that maybe we should end the era of the fursuit mail list. The traffic and information here has dwindled to a fraction of the traffic that are found on all those other mediums. What was thought was perhaps to archive the entire mail list, so that it has a historical archive of all the stuff that was discussed over the years. We could then look at freezing the fursuit "FAQ" and adding that to a historical repository as well, perhaps turning all the data over to Furwiki, for locked down long term archiving. We would then keep the fursuit.org domain and point that all over to the furwiki section to keep up the link. What are all you're thoughts? - -- ____ |\/| \ /\ / ..__. The Yappy Sly Fox ^..^ (vulpes yappaloticus) \/ \__\ _/ http://www.thefoxden.com/ \__ __ \_ http://thefoxden.com/pubkey for PGP Public Key \____\___\ PGP Fingerprint: 1A4B 5F5F 62FF 295D 6204 4029 6FDF 78BA 24F1 7785 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFMWxNlb994uiTxd4URAmWKAJ9jRIktqjbPN3JaAtZR5oS4WtZ+ugCg8mAS v+MSEMmmdGKOggtA9Et/JU8= =q1qg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From donkeyears at gmail.com Thu Aug 5 15:46:56 2010 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 12:46:56 -0700 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> References: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> Message-ID: > > What are all you're thoughts? Rotten idea. His Most Royal Highass, Donkey From yappyfox at thefoxden.com Thu Aug 5 15:49:54 2010 From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (Yappy Sly Fox) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 15:49:54 -0400 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: References: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> Message-ID: <20100805194954.GA5721@penfold.furryhost.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm all open for ideas on how we could revitalize both the website and the mail list.. but as it stands, no one is editing the wiki, so it's simply fizzling out. Maybe move the wiki to fur-wiki for more general exposure, so it can be seen by both the fursuit.org domain, as well as the general public browsing around on furwiki? On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 12:46:56PM -0700, Donkey wrote: > > > > What are all you're thoughts? > > Rotten idea. > > His Most Royal Highass, Donkey > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list - -- ____ |\/| \ /\ / ..__. The Yappy Sly Fox ^..^ (vulpes yappaloticus) \/ \__\ _/ http://www.thefoxden.com/ \__ __ \_ http://thefoxden.com/pubkey for PGP Public Key \____\___\ PGP Fingerprint: 1A4B 5F5F 62FF 295D 6204 4029 6FDF 78BA 24F1 7785 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFMWxXib994uiTxd4URAqDVAKD79p+jqgvySexmD3pQGHsFaqD3aQCeOzNe ccX+VqjCKxVyNc29K6cdHIA= =4qxI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sardognsca at yahoo.com Thu Aug 5 15:54:43 2010 From: sardognsca at yahoo.com (sardognsca at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 19:54:43 +0000 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: References: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> Message-ID: <1222018025-1281038086-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-651063632-@bda450.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I think its the best idea... I'd be curious to know when I was accepted onto the list but I can almost guarantee I'm one of the earlier ones. I can still remember "Len's In The Fuzz" website and the good info it used to have. There is so much info out there now that I suggest that this list be taken off of life support systems. I have always enjoyed the good info, but for the last couple of years its been mostly spam... I've stayed around just on the chances that something good comes along. But I think those days are over. Let's take a moment of silence to remember the good times. Regards, Sardognsca -----Original Message----- From: Donkey Sender: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 12:46:56 To: Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: Re: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history > > What are all you're thoughts? Rotten idea. His Most Royal Highass, Donkey _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list From fox at flyingfox.biz Thu Aug 5 16:00:10 2010 From: fox at flyingfox.biz (fox kinsman) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 16:00:10 -0400 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: <20100805194954.GA5721@penfold.furryhost.com> References: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> <20100805194954.GA5721@penfold.furryhost.com> Message-ID: <2653B4D6-E1E0-4D7A-B724-B066A10748C0@flyingfox.biz> My immediate thought is... oh noes -we ought to keep this list going at the least for us old timers to connected -to me this is kind of valuable as far as the appreciated opinions of very experienced suiters, but you know what -I never really visit the other places so I don't even know lol Ah well -I have enjoyed this list and the company of such characters as yourselves ^^ ~Scape On Aug 5, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Yappy Sly Fox wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm all open for ideas on how we could revitalize both the website and the mail list.. but as it stands, no one is editing the wiki, so it's simply fizzling out. Maybe move the wiki to fur-wiki for more general exposure, so it can be seen by both the fursuit.org domain, as well as the general public browsing around on furwiki? On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 12:46:56PM -0700, Donkey wrote: >> >> What are all you're thoughts? > > Rotten idea. > > His Most Royal Highass, Donkey > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list - -- ____ |\/| \ /\ / ..__. The Yappy Sly Fox ^..^ (vulpes yappaloticus) \/ \__\ _/ http://www.thefoxden.com/ \__ __ \_ http://thefoxden.com/pubkey for PGP Public Key \____\___\ PGP Fingerprint: 1A4B 5F5F 62FF 295D 6204 4029 6FDF 78BA 24F1 7785 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFMWxXib994uiTxd4URAqDVAKD79p+jqgvySexmD3pQGHsFaqD3aQCeOzNe ccX+VqjCKxVyNc29K6cdHIA= =4qxI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list From thebluedragon at gmail.com Thu Aug 5 16:10:44 2010 From: thebluedragon at gmail.com (Levi Darby) Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 15:10:44 -0500 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: <2653B4D6-E1E0-4D7A-B724-B066A10748C0@flyingfox.biz> References: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> <20100805194954.GA5721@penfold.furryhost.com> <2653B4D6-E1E0-4D7A-B724-B066A10748C0@flyingfox.biz> Message-ID: <4C5B1AC4.9050208@gmail.com> I would say either keep the list goig for us old-timers or if the list does get shut down I would recommend archiving the history and making it publicly accessible. Keeping stuff like the archive is good for historical purposes. I still remember Len's "In The Fuzz" page and when you had to apply to R. C. King to get on the list in which it usually took a week to find out if you were accepted or not. fox kinsman wrote: > My immediate thought is... oh noes -we ought to keep this list going > at the least for us old timers to connected -to me this is kind of > valuable as far as the appreciated opinions of very experienced > suiters, but you know what -I never really visit the other places so I > don't even know lol > Ah well -I have enjoyed this list and the company of such characters > as yourselves ^^ > ~Scape > > > On Aug 5, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Yappy Sly Fox wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'm all open for ideas on how we could revitalize both the website and > the mail list.. but as it stands, no one is editing the wiki, so it's > simply > fizzling out. > > Maybe move the wiki to fur-wiki for more general exposure, so it can > be seen by both the fursuit.org domain, as well as the general public > browsing > around on furwiki? > > > > > On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 12:46:56PM -0700, Donkey wrote: >>> >>> What are all you're thoughts? >> >> Rotten idea. >> >> His Most Royal Highass, Donkey >> _______________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> Fursuit Mail list. >> To edit your subscription, visit: >> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > From donkeyears at gmail.com Thu Aug 5 16:18:29 2010 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 13:18:29 -0700 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: <2653B4D6-E1E0-4D7A-B724-B066A10748C0@flyingfox.biz> References: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> <20100805194954.GA5721@penfold.furryhost.com> <2653B4D6-E1E0-4D7A-B724-B066A10748C0@flyingfox.biz> Message-ID: On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 1:00 PM, fox kinsman wrote: > My immediate thought is... oh noes -we ought to keep this list going at the > least for us old timers to connected -to me this is kind of valuable as far > as the appreciated opinions of very experienced suiters, but you know what > -I never really visit the other places so I don't even know lol > Ah well -I have enjoyed this list and the company of such characters as > yourselves ^^ > ~Scape I agree. Another good thing about fursuit.org it has less drama. The owners of the other sites ether don't discourage drama or create it. On LJ I posted a photo of a fursuit head that was just me trying out a new way of making heads, and I received nothing but ridicule and insults, and the owner participated in it also. As you could guess I left and have no plans to ever return. Let the click wannabees have there web pages please let the adults keep fursuit.org His Most Royal Highass, Donkey From jbadger at panix.com Thu Aug 5 15:48:54 2010 From: jbadger at panix.com (JBadger badger badger) Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 15:48:54 -0400 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> References: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> Message-ID: <20100805194854.GA6904@jbadger.dnsalias.net> There are sometimes useful threads on the mailing list but they are few and far between. I think a section on the wiki would be a bit better. -- JBadger ICQ #2686614 -- AOL IM sen3398 Skype JBadger169 ???? Lets go Geocaching http://www.geocaching.com/ SF, Furry, EMS, CONS, food food spicy food. WWW http://www.jbadger.org/ From helvetica at dslextreme.com Thu Aug 5 16:17:44 2010 From: helvetica at dslextreme.com (Phillip Burgess) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 13:17:44 -0700 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: <1222018025-1281038086-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-651063632-@bda450.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> <1222018025-1281038086-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-651063632-@bda450.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <606E0A35-9344-4CCC-92B7-2AC35B31CC3E@dslextreme.com> Agreed with Sardognsca. I'm mostly here "just in case" something special should come through here and not other channels...but, truthfully, it's been years since that's happened, and I'd been considering unsubscribing anyway just to do away with the monthly reminders in my mailbox. Hey, things change, modes of communication change. Better to see the book closed on your own terms than have it fizzle into obscurity and denial. It's been a good ride, and I'm exceedingly grateful for all I've learned here, but I don't think it's necessary to beat a dead pantomime horse just for old time's sake. If the list is retired, I would suggest keeping a very simple auto responder in its place so that any incoming subscription requests or would-be posts receive a note regarding other online resources (including the list archive, if implemented). There's probably a lot of sites and Google cachery out there that still mention the list as a resource, and this would be a good way to keep newcomers in the loop instead of just a dead mail bounce. -- Phil From berin at bluemarble.net Thu Aug 5 16:13:32 2010 From: berin at bluemarble.net (Berin Greenbear) Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 16:13:32 -0400 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> References: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> Message-ID: <23e799f14a950949f66b5bf17b035009@bluemarble.net> The better idea is to pull this out and look at what function this Listserv is still supporting. Then look at what can be put up in it's place. Let's start with function. And feel free to add to any of my lists, please. The strengths: 1) It's history. The logs of this Listserv serve as a marker of where we've been and where we are. 2) It's social. 3) It's low bandwidth. Listservs are text. The problems: 1) The fandom has grown. Maybe e-mail isn't the best way of reaching everyone, for whatever reason. 2) It's easy to miss. Many new fursuiters don't even know how to *use* a Listserv. How is a web site better? Well... it isn't. The functioning of a Listserv really isn't better than a web site with forums/blogging/accounts. It's just shinier. As for newbies not knowing how to *use* a Listserv, we all had to start somewhere. That leaves us with a purely technical set of questions: 1) Is the Listserv software still being maintained? 2) Are there alternatives that will if the software is not. What I'm getting at from a technical point of view: Is there a reason to put in an in-like replacement. And finally, what about expansion? Can we so an LJ/Facebook/Twitter echo to the Listserv? The idea here is that the Listserv stays in place, but the traffic is automatically copied (minus some admin commands that keep this from happening) to your blog platform (or web site) and announcements of updates are posted to Twitter. Then people can drop the e-mail feed, subscribe to Twitter (if that works better for them), and post their reactions to the web site/blog. You either have a Listserv account, a blog/forum account, or both. You can even echo RT/@ responses from Twitter to the list. My point here is maybe we shouldn't "kill" the Listserv, but expand it into something that makes a better use of the available technologies while still leaving what works well alone. Just a thought. Berin From anthrobunny at gmail.com Thu Aug 5 16:52:06 2010 From: anthrobunny at gmail.com (Blackberry) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 13:52:06 -0700 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: <606E0A35-9344-4CCC-92B7-2AC35B31CC3E@dslextreme.com> References: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> <1222018025-1281038086-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-651063632-@bda450.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <606E0A35-9344-4CCC-92B7-2AC35B31CC3E@dslextreme.com> Message-ID: I think a small web forum would be a great replacement. PhpBB is easy to set up and comes with most hosting packages. --- Sent from I, Phone On Aug 5, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Phillip Burgess wrote: > Agreed with Sardognsca. I'm mostly here "just in case" something special should come through here and not other channels...but, truthfully, it's been years since that's happened, and I'd been considering unsubscribing anyway just to do away with the monthly reminders in my mailbox. > > Hey, things change, modes of communication change. Better to see the book closed on your own terms than have it fizzle into obscurity and denial. It's been a good ride, and I'm exceedingly grateful for all I've learned here, but I don't think it's necessary to beat a dead pantomime horse just for old time's sake. > > If the list is retired, I would suggest keeping a very simple auto responder in its place so that any incoming subscription requests or would-be posts receive a note regarding other online resources (including the list archive, if implemented). There's probably a lot of sites and Google cachery out there that still mention the list as a resource, and this would be a good way to keep newcomers in the loop instead of just a dead mail bounce. > > -- Phil > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list From sardognsca at yahoo.com Thu Aug 5 16:53:46 2010 From: sardognsca at yahoo.com (Sardog) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 13:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: <4C5B1AC4.9050208@gmail.com> Message-ID: <71283.34346.qm@web51602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I thought there was an applicatin process, you had to show photos of what you'd made to be allowed on... --- On Thu, 8/5/10, Levi Darby wrote: > From: Levi Darby > Subject: Re: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > Received: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 1:10 PM > I would say either keep the list goig > for us old-timers or if the list does get shut down I would > recommend archiving the history and making it publicly > accessible.? Keeping stuff like the archive is good for > historical purposes.? I still remember Len's "In The > Fuzz" page and when you had to apply to R. C. King to get on > the list in which it usually took a week to find out if you > were accepted or not. > > fox kinsman wrote: > > My immediate thought is... oh noes -we ought to keep > this list going at the least for us old timers to connected > -to me this is kind of valuable as far as the appreciated > opinions of very experienced suiters, but you know what -I > never really visit the other places so I don't even know > lol > > Ah well -I have enjoyed this list and the company of > such characters as yourselves ^^ > > ~Scape > > > > > > On Aug 5, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Yappy Sly Fox wrote: > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > I'm all open for ideas on how we could revitalize both > the website and the mail list..? but as it stands, no > one is editing the wiki, so it's simply > > fizzling out. > > > > Maybe move the wiki to fur-wiki for more general > exposure, so it can be seen by both the fursuit.org domain, > as well as the general public browsing > > around on furwiki? > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 12:46:56PM -0700, Donkey > wrote: > >>> > >>> What are all you're thoughts? > >> > >> Rotten idea. > >> > >> His Most Royal Highass, Donkey > >> _______________________________________________ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Fursuit Mail list. > >> To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > From rsg0910 at iglou.com Thu Aug 5 17:20:18 2010 From: rsg0910 at iglou.com (Robert Goodwin) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:20:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: from "Donkey" at Aug 05, 2010 01:18:29 PM Message-ID: > I agree. I gotta agree here also. And... > Another good thing about fursuit.org it has less drama. The owners of > the other sites ether don't discourage drama or create it. On LJ I > posted a photo of a fursuit head that was just me trying out a new way > of making heads, and I received nothing but ridicule and insults, and Another good one also... There's so many trolls and lowlifes out there who can easily overwhelm a post you made with stupid and/or snide comments, people who "diarrhea comment," ad posters, and as Donkey said, post ridicule and insults. This list can also be used to point to other interesting posts and sites related to suiting and start discussing it here or there. This has been one of the cleanest I've been on, despite its age. I've not been able to do much work on the FursuitWiki (or FAQ) and my suiting/makeup what with my returning to school and dealing with surgery on both knees. I'm wondering if there's a list or something for those who want to find ways to include their cane, walker, wheelchair, crutches, etc, with their suiting endeavours? A tail draped over one's shoulder while using a wheelchair comes to mind. One oddball thing comes to mind... A renfest-friendly suit, and you're using an electric scooter outfitted with a dragon head on the front, tail in back, the "ears" steer the thing, and the sides are dragon scales. I'm wondering if anyone's done similar with manual wheelchairs and canes? Hmm... Crutches/canes made to look like walking sticks... -boogi- (imagining his orange and black striped cane) From dia at critter.net Thu Aug 5 17:42:39 2010 From: dia at critter.net (dia at critter.net) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 16:42:39 -0500 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >We would then keep the fursuit.org domain and point that all over to the >furwiki section to keep up the link. > >What are all you're thoughts? I wouldn't mind so much, as long as the wiki was OPEN to modify, in case we find a great new fur seller, a great new way of making fursuits, etc... I am happy with the way LJ Fursuit is running, but it will be sad to lose a mailing list I have been on for 10 years. Though I do understand. Hardly any of it has to do with fursuiting anymore. Thanks for your hard work over the years! -J From tresnar at gmail.com Thu Aug 5 17:51:44 2010 From: tresnar at gmail.com (Michael B.) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 14:51:44 -0700 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mainly, I ended up remaining on the list because of the occasional con newsletter - and there's many other (better?) ways to get those. The list as a source of creative inspiration / advice / building ... really hasn't existed very well for me since I joined it. I did much of my building based on other sources. An archive would be interesting though. I really enjoy telling stories about eras of fursuit building - even my most amateur attempts would have been at home in 199X, and it's sometimes fun to see the tech in building over the years. From sardognsca at yahoo.com Thu Aug 5 19:06:07 2010 From: sardognsca at yahoo.com (Sardog) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 16:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: <606E0A35-9344-4CCC-92B7-2AC35B31CC3E@dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <359309.4140.qm@web51601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I remember wise words that came out of here a while ago... If you don't like something, just hit the delete key. It really is sad that I spend way more time deleting stuff than is actually prudent. That being said, Livejournal info is sooo accesible you wonder what people are thinking when they post... I recently posted a suit for sale, and, had a response back "Nice suit, but I want a white one" and another saying "its the wrong time"... Also had an email asking me if I'd hold on to the suit and sell it to them later. I also was looking at the Fursuit Lounge site and wonder when it became the fursuit video site, as a lot of people have started posting vids of them dancing around.. I could see it being relevant if they had asked about performance... But dancing around for the fun of it doesn't seem on topic... Who knows. That being said, I think this could be re-worked to being useful, but, wonder if people want to invest the time. --- On Thu, 8/5/10, Phillip Burgess wrote: > From: Phillip Burgess > Subject: Re: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > Received: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 1:17 PM > Agreed with Sardognsca.? I'm > mostly here "just in case" something special should come > through here and not other channels...but, truthfully, it's > been years since that's happened, and I'd been considering > unsubscribing anyway just to do away with the monthly > reminders in my mailbox. > > Hey, things change, modes of communication change.? > Better to see the book closed on your own terms than have it > fizzle into obscurity and denial.? It's been a good > ride, and I'm exceedingly grateful for all I've learned > here, but I don't think it's necessary to beat a dead > pantomime horse just for old time's sake. > > If the list is retired, I would suggest keeping a very > simple auto responder in its place so that any incoming > subscription requests or would-be posts receive a note > regarding other online resources (including the list > archive, if implemented).? There's probably a lot of > sites and Google cachery out there that still mention the > list as a resource, and this would be a good way to keep > newcomers in the loop instead of just a dead mail bounce. > > -- Phil > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > From mhagen_2001 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 5 20:15:31 2010 From: mhagen_2001 at yahoo.com (Patch) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <580826.90983.qm@web50301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I'm happy to be here, even though the list (and myself) aren't that active. Dunno what would be better, and as Donkey stated, if the LJ list is full of assholes, there's not much point in hanging out there. At the moment, this is the only spot I go to for the occasional costuming type question. --Patch ******************************************* Homer: That baby-proofing crook wanted to sell us safety covers for the electrical outlets. But I'll just draw bunny faces on them to scare Maggie away. Marge: She's not afraid of bunnies. Homer: (ominously) She will be. From donkeyears at gmail.com Thu Aug 5 20:16:35 2010 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:16:35 -0700 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: <606E0A35-9344-4CCC-92B7-2AC35B31CC3E@dslextreme.com> References: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> <1222018025-1281038086-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-651063632-@bda450.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <606E0A35-9344-4CCC-92B7-2AC35B31CC3E@dslextreme.com> Message-ID: The people that think that fursuit.org has out lived it's self are quite free to unsubscribe. But please let the people that want it to stay not to be forced out. From orwin at shaw.ca Thu Aug 5 20:21:16 2010 From: orwin at shaw.ca (Orwin) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:21:16 -0700 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> References: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> Message-ID: <000001cb34fd$49182340$db4869c0$@ca> It's time for it to go I think. It's been years really since I've read anything overly useful on the list, and I feel I am one of the 'old timers' on here. I think starting a website with a web forum, attached to the domain might be a good idea, this way posts from this list could be stored there in maybe a searchable archive. It would be even better if something could be setup so there would be closed, invite only/approved only forum for those that can prove they have made a suit, or maybe another that can be related to performance as well (those who have performed at a public event, or something to that like). For those that do not meet those types of criteria, a separate forum could be there for the general banter (that I really do not care about) There were many useful articles and posts in the past, but I really think those days have come to an end, seeing as the majority of folks these days just pay someone to make them a suit, rather than trying to be adventurous and making one themselves, the purpose of this list has really vanished. I think it had a good run, but all things come to an end, and I really think it's time. I recently closed off a site I've been keeping online for the last 15 years. It was hard to pull the plug, but with very few hits, and little relevancy or lack of interest in its content it was time. Same goes for this list. Orwin -----Original Message----- From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Yappy Sly Fox Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:39 PM To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 After talking with Robert King at Anthrocon this year, we were discussing this mailing list. It seems that over the course of the years that the mail list started way back in the mid 90's, that mail list was the best method of transport for the time. As history progressed, and technologies improved, we say better and newer technologies evolve, that soon gained more ease of use and popularity. Live journal, wikipedia, furwiki, furaffinity, etc have all evolved to be a plethora of shocase for the thousands of fursuiters that are now making up the furry fandom. Far from the days of 30 or so stomping around those early days of confurence. It was thought that maybe we should end the era of the fursuit mail list. The traffic and information here has dwindled to a fraction of the traffic that are found on all those other mediums. What was thought was perhaps to archive the entire mail list, so that it has a historical archive of all the stuff that was discussed over the years. We could then look at freezing the fursuit "FAQ" and adding that to a historical repository as well, perhaps turning all the data over to Furwiki, for locked down long term archiving. We would then keep the fursuit.org domain and point that all over to the furwiki section to keep up the link. What are all you're thoughts? - -- ____ |\/| \ /\ / ..__. The Yappy Sly Fox ^..^ (vulpes yappaloticus) \/ \__\ _/ http://www.thefoxden.com/ \__ __ \_ http://thefoxden.com/pubkey for PGP Public Key \____\___\ PGP Fingerprint: 1A4B 5F5F 62FF 295D 6204 4029 6FDF 78BA 24F1 7785 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFMWxNlb994uiTxd4URAmWKAJ9jRIktqjbPN3JaAtZR5oS4WtZ+ugCg8mAS v+MSEMmmdGKOggtA9Et/JU8= =q1qg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list From marcwolf at marcwolf.org Thu Aug 5 20:29:14 2010 From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (David Boccabella) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 10:29:14 +1000 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history Message-ID: <2a91f22c$213e3fb5$b1dd89$@com> I like the news list as it gives me a propmt when there is something on. I really suffer from information overload with my work as a programmer, IT Admin, SPFX amature, etc etc etc it gets to the point where there are so many forums that I am registered on (and need to be on for various questions etc) that loggin into each one on a daily basis to see if there is anything important is a chore. With a news list I get propmted when there is someing new, as well as an easy place to drop new idea's onto. I am just about finished my animatronics controller and plan to announce it here take Care Marc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From camerapup at charter.net Thu Aug 5 20:21:25 2010 From: camerapup at charter.net (Camerapup) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:21:25 -0700 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: References: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> <1222018025-1281038086-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-651063632-@bda450.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <606E0A35-9344-4CCC-92B7-2AC35B31CC3E@dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <003d01cb34fd$4ecb7d00$ec627700$@net> Agreed, I think we should keep the list. Camerapup -----Original Message----- From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Donkey Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 5:17 PM To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: Re: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history The people that think that fursuit.org has out lived it's self are quite free to unsubscribe. But please let the people that want it to stay not to be forced out. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3051 - Release Date: 08/04/10 23:35:00 From ysengrin at runningwolfpack.com Fri Aug 6 01:37:34 2010 From: ysengrin at runningwolfpack.com (Ysengrin Blackpaw) Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:37:34 -0700 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: <580826.90983.qm@web50301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <580826.90983.qm@web50301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C5B9F9E.70908@runningwolfpack.com> Seconded; I've been quiet here lately, but still happy to listen in. Patch wrote: > I'm happy to be here, even though the list (and myself) aren't that > active. Dunno what would be better, and as Donkey stated, if the LJ > list is full of assholes, there's not much point in hanging out > there. At the moment, this is the only spot I go to for the > occasional costuming type question. -- Ysengrin Blackpaw www.RunningWolfPack.com From rsg0910 at iglou.com Fri Aug 6 04:30:43 2010 From: rsg0910 at iglou.com (Robert Goodwin) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 04:30:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: from "Robert Goodwin" at Aug 05, 2010 05:20:18 PM Message-ID: Crap... I had too much coffee when I wrote this... > I've not been able to do much work on the FursuitWiki (or FAQ) and my > suiting/makeup what with my returning to school and dealing with surgery > on both knees. I'm wondering if there's a list or something for those who What I should have said was; I've not done any work on it the last few years. Others have added to it, so it was looking a little better than how I had it. Next problem is the listing of resources, which is now way outa date. Anyway, back to the list and suiting discussion... -boogi- (batting the keyboard out of the park with his cane) From greenreaper at hotmail.com Fri Aug 6 04:45:14 2010 From: greenreaper at hotmail.com (Laurence Parry) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 04:45:14 -0400 Subject: FL: Beginning of a new era? Message-ID: Hi everyone! GreenReaper, founder of the . . . um, "furwiki" here - a first-time poster, but long-time fursuit admirer. :-) This list has quite a history. Robert and Yappy (and probably others I don't know of) deserve a great deal of credit for keeping it going for the last decade and a half. But the archives show a clear decline in traffic over the past few years. I'm not sure it's necessary to close it unless the mail is bothering people (if so, it's easy for them to pause delivery via http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list ) - but if there's interest in performing the original "mission" of providing a significant service to fursuiting, a different method seems appropriate. Mailing lists are not a key method of communication for today's users. Heck, *email* is pass? - at least, among those taking their first steps into fursuiting. If it's not browser-based, the latest generation of fans are unlikely to use it. The same goes for newsgroups, as shown by the decline of alt.fan.furry. As Yappy says, most fursuiters and fursuit-builders now look to various web-based journals and forums, many focusing on specific aspects of fursuit creation and performance. It's not that hard to understand why. Imagine having this entire discussion all on one page, like this: http://www.flayrah.com/c/ning-drop-free-services-communities-face-fees It's a lot more convenient than skipping between posts - especially if you can read it from anywhere without logging into your email account, and respond without leaving the page. Now, as for what to do with the website . . . fursuit.org/.com is a good name. It seems like it might be a good place to get fursuit information. But right now it isn't particularly compelling to visitors (adorable artwork aside), so they don't stick around very long. This is a shame as it has some interesting content, and more could be gleaned from the mailing list archives and other linked resources. While this content should be saved - as should the archives of this mailing list, whether or not it is closed - I don't think it's a good idea to try to merge it into WikiFur. Copyright issues aside, it's not the same type of content. The list has always been more "how to" than encyclopedia material. WikiFur editors distrust personal accounts, essays, opinion, etc., and it's not what readers expect, either. I also don't like the idea of a static archive. That's essentially what it has been for the last few years. It doesn't seem to have been much use to people in that format - hardly surprising given subsequent development in fursuiting techniques. Instead, what if we kept the idea of an active, smaller wiki dedicated to fursuiting? We could switch it over to MediaWiki, put it up at wiki.fursuit.org, open it up to wider editing, linking it to WikiFur's account system so people can use existing accounts, and get it seeded with fifty to a hundred well-formatted pages on various topics. This is not an overnight job - you cannot just put a wiki up and expect it to work. It will require ongoing content maintenance and promotion from community members. Still, I bet at least about half the necessary content is present already in some form, and I'm sure more could be created to fill the gaps - or, perhaps, adapted from the relevant fursuit LiveJournal posts (if nothing else, we could summarize and reference their "memories"). I can help make the first part of that happen, and I'm sure Timduru would be glad to host it along with WikiFur. What I do not have time to do is maintain the wiki on an editorial level, but I suspect there are others out there who could. Perhaps some are on this mailing list. Then there's fursuit.org itself. If we've moved the FAQ wiki away, this should be a different site. But what? A recent example of something which didn't work was the Fursuit Lounge. It had some interesting features but there was really no reason to go there. We need either compelling content of our own, useful aggregation, or both. And we need to avoid treading on other people's toes. As noted by Yappy, there already exist venues providing many different services to fursuiters and fursuit buliders. There is no need to duplicate them. What seems to be lacking is a site to tie them together. With this in mind, I think the best use for fursuit.org is to provide a live portal/launchpad - a kind of "one stop shop" for fursuiters looking for a homepage. This portal might draw from/link to/feature these, and more: * posts from LiveJournal communities like fursuit/fursuitlounge/fursuit_auctions * material from the Fursuit Wiki * suits from the Fursuit Database ( http://db.fursuit.org/ ) * photos/video from the Fursuit Archive ( http://fursuit.timduru.org/ ) * the latest episode of Fursuit TV ( http://fursuittv.timduru.org/ ) * fursuiting news and features from Flayrah ( http://www.flayrah.com/category/tags/fursuits ) * topics from The Fursuit Forum ( http://80scartoons.net/fursuitforum/ ) * relevant chat rooms, additional resources, and this mailing list Ideally it would *not* require much effort to maintain freshness, just a bit of technical know-how to add features over time and fix it if it breaks. If and when it starts to get significant traffic, we could introduce more social features, such as a forum or site chat, and perhaps additional original content. So that's my vision of what could be - two sites which draw together resources from yesterday and today to serve the fursuiters of tomorrow. Is this something you feel would be beneficial? Would anyone like to help? -- Laurence "GreenReaper" Parry http://greenreaper.co.uk - http://wikifur.com - http://flayrah.com "Eternity lies ahead of us, and behind. Have you drunk your fill?" From rcking at speakeasy.net Fri Aug 6 07:37:09 2010 From: rcking at speakeasy.net (Robert C. King) Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 06:37:09 -0500 Subject: FL: List history and future Message-ID: <4C5BF3E5.3050903@speakeasy.net> Hi Folks, It's been a long time since I created this list back in 1993. In about 1998 the list got to be too much for me to handle and I had to stop being an active moderator and back away. (Thanks Yappy for taking the controls). I've since raised two boys and they are now heading off to college. I've started a convention (Midwest FurFest) and it's been running for 10 years now. Wow - the years have flown by. I still remember sitting on that airplane with Porsupah saying "You know - I could set up a mailing list so we could share all this information..." I'm glad to hear that some folks still get some good from it, and I'm glad to see that some of our founding members are still around. I see a split over "keep it" vs "time to go" (as usual ;) In the end, it will boil down to a cost-benefit sort of decision - Right now this list costs us a little bit of server resources and a domain. We're in no hurry to kill it - I was just worried that it was becoming just a useless bit of clutter on the net. Continue your discussions and we'll continue thinking about what is the best direction to take. Thank You! Robert King From dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net Fri Aug 6 19:22:30 2010 From: dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net (dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net) Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 16:22:30 -0700 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history Message-ID: <1844362.1281138261236.JavaMail.teamon@b301.teamon.com> I say keep the list. I run a couple lists, one of which I keep on y!groups for mostly historical reasons, one of which is on this server that I first joined as a user about 15 years ago. The one on Yahoo is a fan list for rock group Toad The Wet Sprocket and doesn't get much traffic since they broke up around ten years ago. This said, it isn't really a great reason to kill a list because of low or trivial traffic. I say keep it around. -Dennis "Yappy Sly Fox" wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >After talking with Robert King at Anthrocon this year, we were discussing this mailing list. > >It seems that over the course of the years that the mail list started way back in the mid 90's, that mail list was the best method of transport for >the time. As history progressed, and technologies improved, we say better and newer technologies evolve, that soon gained more ease of use and >popularity. Live journal, wikipedia, furwiki, furaffinity, etc have all evolved to be a plethora of shocase for the thousands of fursuiters that >are now making up the furry fandom. Far from the days of 30 or so stomping around those early days of confurence. > >It was thought that maybe we should end the era of the fursuit mail list. The traffic and information here has dwindled to a fraction of the traffic >that are found on all those other mediums. What was thought was perhaps to archive the entire mail list, so that it has a historical archive of all >the stuff that was discussed over the years. > >We could then look at freezing the fursuit "FAQ" and adding that to a historical repository as well, perhaps turning all the data over to Furwiki, >for locked down long term archiving. > >We would then keep the fursuit.org domain and point that all over to the furwiki section to keep up the link. > >What are all you're thoughts? > > >- -- > > ____ |\/| > \ /\ / ..__. The Yappy Sly Fox ^..^ (vulpes yappaloticus) > \/ \__\ _/ http://www.thefoxden.com/ > \__ __ \_ http://thefoxden.com/pubkey for PGP Public Key > \____\___\ > > PGP Fingerprint: 1A4B 5F5F 62FF 295D 6204 4029 6FDF 78BA 24F1 7785 > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > >iD8DBQFMWxNlb994uiTxd4URAmWKAJ9jRIktqjbPN3JaAtZR5oS4WtZ+ugCg8mAS >v+MSEMmmdGKOggtA9Et/JU8= >=q1qg >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >_______________________________________________ >_______________________________________________ >Fursuit Mail list. >To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > From tiger at inow.com Fri Aug 6 20:45:00 2010 From: tiger at inow.com (Tiger Wayne) Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 17:45:00 -0700 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> References: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> Message-ID: <4C5CAC8C.6000504@inow.com> I guess it boils down to if you want an archive and what type. Web interfaces like LJ and that will not archive well at the local level unless you have a tool that goes out and grabs the web content and puts it on a local storage unit and being web based will also take up a lot of space. This list I have been collecting all the content simply by not deleting anything and the usual mail backup tool keeps it safe and it is really easy to do. I have always liked mail lists because that they are easy to read (using your favorite mail tool) and manage. All my Yahoo Gps are set to mail me the content keeping it simple and easy to use and archived as well on my local mail server so if a list goes away I have all that content saved here. Some times newer is not better but I certainly would not want to see this list go and just because I don't post very much does not mean that I don't read other folks posts. BTW FA is not accepting new users so that is really not available to new folks. If you can please keep this list Tiger Wayne On 8/5/2010 12:39 PM, Yappy Sly Fox wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > After talking with Robert King at Anthrocon this year, we were discussing this mailing list. > > It seems that over the course of the years that the mail list started way back in the mid 90's, that mail list was the best method of transport for > the time. As history progressed, and technologies improved, we say better and newer technologies evolve, that soon gained more ease of use and > popularity. Live journal, wikipedia, furwiki, furaffinity, etc have all evolved to be a plethora of shocase for the thousands of fursuiters that > are now making up the furry fandom. Far from the days of 30 or so stomping around those early days of confurence. > > It was thought that maybe we should end the era of the fursuit mail list. The traffic and information here has dwindled to a fraction of the traffic > that are found on all those other mediums. What was thought was perhaps to archive the entire mail list, so that it has a historical archive of all > the stuff that was discussed over the years. > > We could then look at freezing the fursuit "FAQ" and adding that to a historical repository as well, perhaps turning all the data over to Furwiki, > for locked down long term archiving. > > We would then keep the fursuit.org domain and point that all over to the furwiki section to keep up the link. > > What are all you're thoughts? > > > - -- > > ____ |\/| > \ /\ / ..__. The Yappy Sly Fox ^..^ (vulpes yappaloticus) > \/ \__\ _/ http://www.thefoxden.com/ > \__ __ \_ http://thefoxden.com/pubkey for PGP Public Key > \____\___\ > From juzbunny at netspace.net.au Tue Aug 10 03:02:41 2010 From: juzbunny at netspace.net.au (Justin Semmel) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 17:02:41 +1000 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: <23e799f14a950949f66b5bf17b035009@bluemarble.net> References: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> <23e799f14a950949f66b5bf17b035009@bluemarble.net> Message-ID: I like a mailing list. It's low maintenance. I can leave it for a while, and come back to it, and it's ok. I don't like logging in and chasing threads on Forums. They can be scoped out by robots and attacked by trolls. They require building a profile, and just... attention that I want to save for more important projects. Topically, I can use FL better, and have done. Cheers, Juzbunny quietly lurking on. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Berin Greenbear" To: Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 6:13 AM Subject: Re: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history > The better idea is to pull this out and look at what function this > Listserv is still supporting. Then look at what can be put up in it's > place. > > Let's start with function. And feel free to add to any of my lists, > please. > > The strengths: > 1) It's history. The logs of this Listserv serve as a marker of where > we've been and where we are. > 2) It's social. > 3) It's low bandwidth. Listservs are text. > > The problems: > 1) The fandom has grown. Maybe e-mail isn't the best way of reaching > everyone, for whatever reason. > 2) It's easy to miss. Many new fursuiters don't even know how to *use* a > Listserv. > > How is a web site better? Well... it isn't. The functioning of a Listserv > really isn't better than a web site with forums/blogging/accounts. It's > just shinier. As for newbies not knowing how to *use* a Listserv, we all > had to start somewhere. > > That leaves us with a purely technical set of questions: > > 1) Is the Listserv software still being maintained? > 2) Are there alternatives that will if the software is not. > > What I'm getting at from a technical point of view: Is there a reason to > put in an in-like replacement. > > And finally, what about expansion? Can we so an LJ/Facebook/Twitter echo > to the Listserv? The idea here is that the Listserv stays in place, but > the > traffic is automatically copied (minus some admin commands that keep this > from happening) to your blog platform (or web site) and announcements of > updates are posted to Twitter. Then people can drop the e-mail feed, > subscribe to Twitter (if that works better for them), and post their > reactions to the web site/blog. You either have a Listserv account, a > blog/forum account, or both. You can even echo RT/@ responses from Twitter > to the list. > > My point here is maybe we shouldn't "kill" the Listserv, but expand it > into something that makes a better use of the available technologies while > still leaving what works well alone. > > Just a thought. > > Berin > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list From foxysamurai at gmail.com Wed Aug 11 04:12:09 2010 From: foxysamurai at gmail.com (foxysamurai at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 03:12:09 -0500 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: References: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> <23e799f14a950949f66b5bf17b035009@bluemarble.net> Message-ID: I still read what comes into my inbox, just don't post much but I don't have much to say often. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From delphinios at gmail.com Wed Aug 11 04:15:14 2010 From: delphinios at gmail.com (Delph) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 03:15:14 -0500 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: References: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> <23e799f14a950949f66b5bf17b035009@bluemarble.net> Message-ID: I'm still reading the list. :) -Delph- From foxwolfac at gmail.com Thu Aug 12 11:18:41 2010 From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 11:18:41 -0400 Subject: FL: End of an Era, Archive of history In-Reply-To: References: <20100805193917.GA5632@penfold.furryhost.com> <23e799f14a950949f66b5bf17b035009@bluemarble.net> Message-ID: I still very much love the list. It is interesting to see how others are solving fursuit making issues and using those as ideas on how I can make the few suits I do make better. I vote for keeping the list. It is relatively spam-free and much easier than a forum. 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The 08M also has connected to it 2 small HALL effect devices. this trigger on and off from the presence of a strong magnetic field. To power this system I have a small 2v to 5v convertor board. When all hooked together with some simple code to make the white LED pulse with different patterns and to thrun on the red laser I can do this. The HALL effect devices are hidden in part of the fancy surround on teh Crystal Place the staff somewhere of hold it in my hand. With a glove that has a small rare-earth magnet swen into it I can gesture over the crystal in one direction and the crystal glows and pulses. Gesture the other way and the crystal turns a deep red. Repeat the gesture and the crystal returns to it white display, or finally gesture again over the staff and the crystal goes dark. The beauty of this setup is that there is no physical contact with the crystal or staff. I can hand the staff to someone and they will try everything to find the hidden switches... just not realising tht they need a magnet to send the commands. And I just have to gesture again and it turns on in their hands. Links to Parts http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LONG-RAINBOW-CLEAR-AMETHYST-CRYSTAL-GEMSTONE-POINT-/2 60647274349?pt=Loose_Gemstones http://www.microzed.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_2&produc ts_id=3 http://www.littlebirdelectronics.com/products/Pololu-5V-Boost-Regulator-NCP1 402.html http://www.littlebirdelectronics.com/products/Hall-Effect-Sensor.html http://www.besthongkong.com/product_info.php?products_id=34 http://www.apinex.com/ret2/03025an.html Hope you enjoyed the concept. Marcwolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From featherhoof at bovinestudios.com Sun Aug 15 02:03:34 2010 From: featherhoof at bovinestudios.com (R. "Cow" Lauterbach) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 02:03:34 -0400 Subject: FL: Fwd: WMFVA Listserv: Fw: [MFPGroup] Costume Maker for Corporate Event Message-ID: <4C678336.4070706@bovinestudios.com> Greetings, Someone (a mundane) contacted the West Michigan Film Video Alliance Google group (a mundane group) looking for a costume maker. I thought I'd pass it along :) Key points to keep in mind if you make contact: - The person looking for a costume maker is not a furry nor is the group he posted to a furry group. - Make sure to read the forwarded email as he needs a dozen costume, not one. - As he's posting to a Michigan group, he's probably in Michigan and will need them shipped there. Moo, "Cow" -------- Original Message -------- Subject: WMFVA Listserv: Fw: [MFPGroup] Costume Maker for Corporate Event Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:50:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Deborah Havens To: WMFVA List ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: M Adler To: mfpgroup at yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, August 13, 2010 11:03:58 AM Subject: [MFPGroup] Costume Maker for Corporate Event Costume Maker for Corporate Event We're in need of a costumer maker who can create a dozen or so duplicate costumes for a corporate event. If you know of someone or a company who could take this on, please call Karl Vethake at 248-246-5264. Or email Karl at kvethake @ bighrm.com. Doug Pettinga Producer p: 248-246-5222 | c: 248-506-5475 __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: * New Members 2 Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use . __,_._,___ -- Posting a request? 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One of my Holy Grails with a fursuit is to be able to control it's animatronics without been seen to control it by a watcher. Imaging your character walking around smiling, laughing, and growling with ease and NO-ONE knew how you were doing this. There has been many interfaces - magents and switches in the paws so you can touch finger to thumb and control things etc. However thats is still a movement that can be seen. With the release of the PicAXE 18M2 this can be made MUCH easier. The 18M2 has the new Microchip circuitry for touch sensing., and the test/development board is here http://www.techsupplies.co.uk/epages/Store.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Store .TechSupplies/Products/AXE181 Now this is Capacitance touch sensing that means that there is no electrical contact with the board, infact the contacts must be isolated!. This also means that there is no chance that you can get shocked by the contacts. How can we use this. We can all stick out tounges out and move it around, so if a plastic curve with the contacts behind it was placed just in front of the mouth it would be easy to to touch. I estimates that is would be easy to control 3 sensors (Left, Right, and Front) though 5 sensors could be put in and handled comfortably. With the 3 sensors one could do a LEFT - Active for cmand MIDDLE - Tap out command number RIGHT - Execute command With the cost of this board (and it includes the 18M2) being only $23AUD (and there are disributers around the world including US) it makes it a very easy add on for any techincally minded suit maker Hope this helps. I will be making a video of my experiments and putting it on YouTube Take Care Marc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frysco-sender-6f5fe9 at gryphonic.org Wed Sep 8 05:41:07 2010 From: frysco-sender-6f5fe9 at gryphonic.org (Francisco Azinsan) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 04:41:07 -0500 Subject: FL: FC2011 September Newsletter Message-ID: <20100908094107.GA65674@critter.net> FC 2011 September Newsletter In this issue: 1. Convention Dates Changed 2. Furry Market Place already at 50% capacity! 3. Dealer Room Waiting List 4. Panelists and performers wanted for the FC puppet track! 5. Species Track 6. THE PROGRAM BOOK NEEDS YOU! 7. Open Lead Positions for FC 2011 8. Annual Further Confusion camp-out and picnic 9. Next Staff Meeting 1. Convention Dates Changed The dates for our 2011 convention have changed. We now have the Martin Luther King holiday Jr. (U.S.) weekend dates of January 13th - 17th. Please be sure your travel, hotel reservations dates, and vacation requests match up with our new dates. 2. Furry Market Place already at 50% capacity! Spaces in the Furry Market Place are going fast! If you have a desire to sell your wares at Further Confusion 2011 and that material is acceptable to all audiences, then the Furry Market Place may work for you. Head on over to the Furry Market Place page of the Further Confusion website at for all the rules and limitations, as well as the Furry Market Place signup form. If the Furry Market Place will work for you, fill out the signup form and send it in with your US$75.00 payment (personal check or money orders only, please) to the address given on the form. Sales of Furry Market Place spaces will close when all 20 have sold, or December 15th 2010, whichever comes first. We will NOT be selling spaces at the con this year. Once sales have closed in December any unsold spaces will be offered as extra space for our charities. 3. Dealer Room Waiting List The Dealer Room Waiting list is the place you want to apply to if you find the Furry Market Place will not fit your needs. When someone that currently has a table in the Further Confusion 2011 Dealer Room finds that they will not be able to make it to the convention, they contact us and get their full refund. Then the space they gave up gets offered in a 'Random Lottery' to a person on the waiting list. Cancellations can happen at any time. We've already had one and gave that space to a luck person from the waiting list. The most common time to have cancellations is in the last 6 weeks before the convention. In some of our past years every person on the waiting list got into the main dealer room. But there have also been times when that has not been the case. Our recommendation, even if you DO choose to apply to the waiting list, is to look at the list of dealers shown on the website, and if you see one of your friends there, ask them if they are going to need help manning their table. Maybe the will split the cost of the table with you? And remember, whatever you do, if you are going to sell product at the convention, to seek a sellers permit from the California Board of Equalization BEFORE you get to the convention. If you choose to get on the waiting list, go to the Dealers page on the Further Confusion website and download the Waiting List Application. Fill it out and send it in to the address on the form. We will close the Waiting List to new applicants on December 15th, 2010. 4. Panelists and performers wanted for the FC puppet track! We are currently looking for both panelists and performers to help with the puppetry track at FC 2011. We have a long history of having a great track, and I am working to make sure 2011 continues this. If you want to run a panel, help on a panel, or perform in the puppet shows, drop us a line and let us know, and we can get you added in. Contact our Puppetry Track Lead through email at tiresta at grics.net, and he will get back to you asap and we can work out what you would like to do. 5. Species Track Want to run a Species Panel? We are waiting to hear back from last years panelists for some panels but right now Canines, Avian Furs, the Dragon Panel, Ungulates Panel and Created Species. We may have others come up and if there is another panel that you would like to run please just e-mail us and ask. Time is short to get these panels lined up so please act quickly. If you have any questions at all please e-mail our Species Track lead at kiteless.dragon at gmail.com. 6. THE PROGRAM BOOK NEEDS YOU! The first of October is the deadline for submitting art and writing to the Further Confusion program book! That means we have less than a month to gather illustrations and writing from authors and artists throughout the land. If you're one of those creative people, please send us something. If you know some of those creative people, please ask them to send us something. It can be new work or existing work, as long as it's appropriate. Requirements and specifications can be found on the convention Web site at . Any questions not addressed by the Web page can be directed to conbook at furtherconfusion.org. 7. Open Lead Positions for FC 2011 We are looking for persons with an eye for details and can stay up on their email to run some of our tracks. Social Track. We have our Main Stage dances taken care of (Thanks to DJ Tigon from WA) but many volunteers for various entertainment related panels need arranging and room bookings. You could also seek out other possible events like the poi and light toys workshop of previous years. Species Track. Critters! This also includes events like our two Dragon Panels. Spirituality Track. Currently this is our smallest track, but certainly has the potential to be made larger. 8. Annual Further Confusion camp-out and picnic Just a quick reminder that our annual camp-out will be taking place from Friday 10th through Sunday 12th of September, up at Anthony Lake Chabot Campground. While reservations for camping are now closed, our Annual Picnic will be held on Saturday 10th down in the picnic area of the park. All are welcome to the picnic, and no sign-up is necessary! 9. Next Staff Meeting Our next staff meeting will be on September 18th, starting at 1:00pm in the San Jose Fairmont. Check the lobby electronic sign for our room assignment. Parking is available in the surrounding area but is not free. The parking lot closest to the hotel will run $7 for the duration of the meeting. -- Further Confusion info at furtherconfusion.org From featherhoof at bovinestudios.com Fri Sep 10 00:58:54 2010 From: featherhoof at bovinestudios.com (R. "Cow" Lauterbach) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:58:54 -0400 Subject: FL: Help finding a fursuit video... In-Reply-To: <20100908094107.GA65674@critter.net> References: <20100908094107.GA65674@critter.net> Message-ID: <002101cb50a4$dff3b320$9fdb1960$@com> Moo! So, a few years ago I saw a fursuit video online. I've since lost the link and have been trying to relocate the video with no success. Might anyone be able to assist? Here are some of the video details I can remember: - There were 1 or 2 rabbit/bunny fursuiters, an unseen camera opt, there might have been some non suiters tagging along - They were running amuck inside a mall - The rabbits/bunnies were tumbling and other acrobatic type stuff while causing chaos - They might have continued amuck in surrounding area outside of the mall I'm after the video as it's a good example of advanced suiting techniques (acrobatic stunts). Granted there are plenty of pro mascot stunt videos out there. Yet, I liked this one as well since it wasn't pro suiters on an official job. It was just fursuiters with acrobatic skills having fun. Thanks, "Cow" From espilonarge at gmail.com Fri Sep 10 02:46:49 2010 From: espilonarge at gmail.com (Christopher Halyday) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:46:49 +1000 Subject: FL: Help finding a fursuit video... In-Reply-To: <002101cb50a4$dff3b320$9fdb1960$@com> References: <20100908094107.GA65674@critter.net> <002101cb50a4$dff3b320$9fdb1960$@com> Message-ID: I only know of so many wabbits that come close to any acrobatics that I know of (or to some degree). First we have Equal, Sweet N Low and Splenda. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aJU1qd9yBY There's also Sinatra. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkk4elLeZPc Maybe you could give us some other details like if the rabbit is male or female, or at least the fur coloring (would greatly help narrow the search down). On 9/10/10, R. "Cow" Lauterbach wrote: > Moo! > > So, a few years ago I saw a fursuit video online. I've since lost the link > and have been trying to relocate the video with no success. Might anyone be > able to assist? Here are some of the video details I can remember: > > - There were 1 or 2 rabbit/bunny fursuiters, an unseen camera opt, there > might have been some non suiters tagging along > - They were running amuck inside a mall > - The rabbits/bunnies were tumbling and other acrobatic type stuff while > causing chaos > - They might have continued amuck in surrounding area outside of the mall > > I'm after the video as it's a good example of advanced suiting techniques > (acrobatic stunts). Granted there are plenty of pro mascot stunt videos out > there. Yet, I liked this one as well since it wasn't pro suiters on an > official job. It was just fursuiters with acrobatic skills having fun. > > Thanks, > > "Cow" From delphinios at gmail.com Fri Sep 10 04:06:38 2010 From: delphinios at gmail.com (Delph) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:06:38 -0500 Subject: FL: Help finding a fursuit video... In-Reply-To: References: <20100908094107.GA65674@critter.net> <002101cb50a4$dff3b320$9fdb1960$@com> Message-ID: This might be the one you're thinking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSg9Y-16fl4 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:46 AM, Christopher Halyday wrote: > I only know of so many wabbits that come close to any acrobatics that > I know of (or to some degree). > > First we have Equal, Sweet N Low and Splenda. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aJU1qd9yBY > > There's also Sinatra. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkk4elLeZPc > > Maybe you could give us some other details like if the rabbit is male > or female, or at least the fur coloring (would greatly help narrow the > search down). > > On 9/10/10, R. "Cow" Lauterbach wrote: >> Moo! >> >> So, a few years ago I saw a fursuit video online. I've since lost the link >> and have been trying to relocate the video with no success. Might anyone be >> able to assist? Here are some of the video details I can remember: >> >> - There were 1 or 2 rabbit/bunny fursuiters, an unseen camera opt, there >> might have been some non suiters tagging along >> - They were running amuck inside a mall >> - The rabbits/bunnies were tumbling and other acrobatic type stuff while >> causing chaos >> - They might have continued amuck in surrounding area outside of the mall >> >> I'm after the video as it's a good example of advanced suiting techniques >> (acrobatic stunts). Granted there are plenty of pro mascot stunt videos out >> there. Yet, I liked this one as well since it wasn't pro suiters on an >> official job. It was just fursuiters with acrobatic skills having fun. >> >> Thanks, >> >> "Cow" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > -- -Delph- From featherhoof at bovinestudios.com Fri Sep 10 13:58:07 2010 From: featherhoof at bovinestudios.com (R. "Cow" Lauterbach) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:58:07 -0400 Subject: FL: Help finding a fursuit video... In-Reply-To: References: <20100908094107.GA65674@critter.net> <002101cb50a4$dff3b320$9fdb1960$@com> Message-ID: <000f01cb5111$bae49eb0$30addc10$@com> The video from Groove Armada isn't it. Though, if I can't find the one I remember then I'll probably use it instead since it shows all the points except for the non-pro part. I've also got the kangaroo video by Remi Gaillard as one example. But I'm using that in the list of examples of "why you should be careful when you fursuit as this might be people's prior experience with fursuits" type thing. -----Original Message----- From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Delph Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:07 AM To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: Re: FL: Help finding a fursuit video... This might be the one you're thinking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSg9Y-16fl4 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:46 AM, Christopher Halyday wrote: > I only know of so many wabbits that come close to any acrobatics that > I know of (or to some degree). > > First we have Equal, Sweet N Low and Splenda. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aJU1qd9yBY > > There's also Sinatra. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkk4elLeZPc > > Maybe you could give us some other details like if the rabbit is male > or female, or at least the fur coloring (would greatly help narrow the > search down). > > On 9/10/10, R. "Cow" Lauterbach wrote: >> Moo! >> >> So, a few years ago I saw a fursuit video online. I've since lost the link >> and have been trying to relocate the video with no success. Might anyone be >> able to assist? Here are some of the video details I can remember: >> >> - There were 1 or 2 rabbit/bunny fursuiters, an unseen camera opt, there >> might have been some non suiters tagging along >> - They were running amuck inside a mall >> - The rabbits/bunnies were tumbling and other acrobatic type stuff while >> causing chaos >> - They might have continued amuck in surrounding area outside of the mall >> >> I'm after the video as it's a good example of advanced suiting techniques >> (acrobatic stunts). Granted there are plenty of pro mascot stunt videos out >> there. Yet, I liked this one as well since it wasn't pro suiters on an >> official job. It was just fursuiters with acrobatic skills having fun. >> >> Thanks, >> >> "Cow" > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > -- -Delph- _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list From featherhoof at bovinestudios.com Fri Sep 10 13:58:07 2010 From: featherhoof at bovinestudios.com (R. "Cow" Lauterbach) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:58:07 -0400 Subject: FL: Help finding a fursuit video... In-Reply-To: References: <20100908094107.GA65674@critter.net> <002101cb50a4$dff3b320$9fdb1960$@com> Message-ID: <001001cb5111$bc0773d0$34165b70$@com> The body type was gender neutral. The coloring was all brown or possibly brown with a white chest. -----Original Message----- From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Halyday Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 2:47 AM To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: Re: FL: Help finding a fursuit video... I only know of so many wabbits that come close to any acrobatics that I know of (or to some degree). First we have Equal, Sweet N Low and Splenda. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aJU1qd9yBY There's also Sinatra. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkk4elLeZPc Maybe you could give us some other details like if the rabbit is male or female, or at least the fur coloring (would greatly help narrow the search down). On 9/10/10, R. "Cow" Lauterbach wrote: > Moo! > > So, a few years ago I saw a fursuit video online. I've since lost the link > and have been trying to relocate the video with no success. Might anyone be > able to assist? Here are some of the video details I can remember: > > - There were 1 or 2 rabbit/bunny fursuiters, an unseen camera opt, there > might have been some non suiters tagging along > - They were running amuck inside a mall > - The rabbits/bunnies were tumbling and other acrobatic type stuff while > causing chaos > - They might have continued amuck in surrounding area outside of the mall > > I'm after the video as it's a good example of advanced suiting techniques > (acrobatic stunts). Granted there are plenty of pro mascot stunt videos out > there. Yet, I liked this one as well since it wasn't pro suiters on an > official job. It was just fursuiters with acrobatic skills having fun. > > Thanks, > > "Cow" _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list From dia at critter.net Wed Sep 22 01:21:53 2010 From: dia at critter.net (dia at critter.net) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 00:21:53 -0500 Subject: FL: KanCoon fursuit up for sale! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Guys, A practically brand new Kangaroo / Raccoon mixed critter aka KanCoon is up for sale! She won Best Journeyman at FurtherConfusion in 2009. http://www.furbuy.com/auctions/1019495.html TONS of info on this suit here: http://dia.critter.net/harlequin/harlequinmain.htm I hope she goes to a good new home! This will help me buy a Domesticated Kitty suit for PetCo Adoptions! -J From mrbunny666 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 26 15:17:17 2010 From: mrbunny666 at yahoo.com (Bunny) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 12:17:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: I Need Short Pyle White fur Message-ID: <721781.6742.qm@web56605.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I HAVE to finish my friend's antelope suit before Halloween. But we cannot find good quality short Pyle white fur. SAS fabric store will only order the long shag. And that the $19 / yard stuff Only need 3 yards. Anyone have any extra we can buy? Anyone know the better web sites to order it from? thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tsukasa06 at msn.com Sun Sep 26 15:40:58 2010 From: tsukasa06 at msn.com (Shadow) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 13:40:58 -0600 Subject: FL: I Need Short Pyle White fur In-Reply-To: <721781.6742.qm@web56605.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <721781.6742.qm@web56605.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You can get the long pile and just shave it down to the length you need if that helps some. Sent from my iPod touch On Sep 26, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Bunny wrote: > I HAVE to finish my friend's antelope suit before Halloween. > But we cannot find good quality short Pyle white fur. > > SAS fabric store will only order the long shag. > And that the $19 / yard stuff > > Only need 3 yards. > Anyone have any extra we can buy? > Anyone know the better web sites to order it from? > > thanks > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de Fri Oct 1 04:08:32 2010 From: m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de (Markus Kalkbrenner - Maskottchen Germany) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 10:08:32 +0200 Subject: FL: I Need Short Pyle White fur In-Reply-To: <721781.6742.qm@web56605.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <721781.6742.qm@web56605.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <15761721.20101001100832@maskottchen-germany.de> Hi We have 8,10 and 15mm, 25mm Pile white Fur in top Quality but unfortunately in Europe www.stoffelle.de Regards Atalon the Deer > I HAVE to finish my friend's antelope suit before Halloween. > But we cannot find good quality short Pyle white fur. > SAS fabric store will only order the long shag. > And that the $19 / yard stuff > Only need 3 yards. > Anyone have any extra we can buy? > Anyone know the better web sites to order it from? > thanks From dragon at owc.net Sat Oct 9 01:41:49 2010 From: dragon at owc.net (Firewing) Date: 09 Oct 2010 05:41:49 -0000 Subject: FL: Haunted House article Message-ID: <4CB007F4.4000005@owc.net> Hi, Found this article that has a picture of a deranged bunnysuit and the article mentions furries and indirectly mentions Anthrocon. http://tinyurl.com/33eta5h -Firewing From kofutw at yahoo.com.tw Sat Oct 9 15:31:52 2010 From: kofutw at yahoo.com.tw (kofutw) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 03:31:52 +0800 (CST) Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 53, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <130388.40246.qm@web74018.mail.tp2.yahoo.com> An axe waving killer bunny inspired by Furrys at anthrocon? Is that how scary we are to "normal people" now ??!? O_o;; Kofu ________________________________ Send Fursuit-list mailing list submissions to fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fursuit-list-request at lists.fursuit.org You can reach the person managing the list at fursuit-list-owner at lists.fursuit.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Fursuit-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Haunted House article (Firewing) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: 09 Oct 2010 05:41:49 -0000 From: Firewing To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org Subject: FL: Haunted House article Message-ID: <4CB007F4.4000005 at owc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Hi, Found this article that has a picture of a deranged bunnysuit and the article mentions furries and indirectly mentions Anthrocon. http://tinyurl.com/33eta5h -Firewing ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Fursuit-list mailing list Fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list End of Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 53, Issue 2 ******************************************* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quincy.powell at gmail.com Sat Oct 9 16:15:32 2010 From: quincy.powell at gmail.com (Quincy Powell) Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 16:15:32 -0400 Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 53, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: <130388.40246.qm@web74018.mail.tp2.yahoo.com> References: <130388.40246.qm@web74018.mail.tp2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: In the article the people doing the house basically said that they were using juxtaposition to try and increase the impact of something scary. Kinda like how in "The Ring" the fact that it was a little dead girl killing people made it more freaky than if it were, say, a serial killer who had died in a prison or mental institution. It's not a technique that's guaranteed to work (see below) but when it does it can be quite effective. I've actually forced myself to watch this movie (I wish I hadn't). It was, hands down, the worst movie I have ever seen. And I have seen a handful of Troma films. It's titled "Serial Rabbit" http://www.filmthreat.com/reviews/10247/ 2010/10/9 kofutw : > An axe waving killer bunny inspired by Furrys at anthrocon? Is that how > scary we are to "normal people" now ??!? O_o;; > > Kofu > From nurikoutsukushii at gmail.com Sat Oct 9 17:52:48 2010 From: nurikoutsukushii at gmail.com (Ryshili) Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 14:52:48 -0700 Subject: FL: Haunted House article In-Reply-To: <4CB007F4.4000005@owc.net> References: <4CB007F4.4000005@owc.net> Message-ID: I only think of Robbie from Silent Hill. On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Firewing wrote: > Hi, > > Found this article that has a picture of a deranged bunnysuit and > the article mentions furries and indirectly mentions Anthrocon. > > > http://tinyurl.com/33eta5h > > > -Firewing > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > -- ~Ryshili -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bdbfox at outgun.com Mon Oct 11 07:53:24 2010 From: bdbfox at outgun.com (bdbfox at outgun.com) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:53:24 -0400 Subject: FL: Haunted House article In-Reply-To: References: <4CB007F4.4000005@owc.net> Message-ID: <8CD37520B367746-1350-156A@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com> For reasons I can't fully comprehend white rabbit suits have really blown up recently on the haunted house scene. White rabbits are becoming the new evil clown. For example there's this very nice mass production "Peter Rottentail" suit. http://www.nightmarefactory.com/cgi-bin/shopper?preadd=action&key=TA408 and there's been some characters with custom suits from big haunted attractions... http://www.flickr.com/photos/7886515 at N06/2980795210/ and little two bit haunts... http://www.dragons-eye.com/meet_our_monsters.htm Can't really explain it, not sure why people are going with rabbits. There is, however, a pretty famous urban legend/possible actual incident where it might have started: the Bunny Man of rural Virginia. This tale of a fursuited killer and the railroad tracks where his victims turn up has been floating around since the 70's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunny_Man -Damian The battering ram at the gates of heaven. -----Original Message----- From: Ryshili To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Sent: Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:52 pm Subject: Re: FL: Haunted House article I only think of Robbie from Silent Hill. On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Firewing wrote: Hi, Found this article that has a picture of a deranged bunnysuit and the article mentions furries and indirectly mentions Anthrocon. http://tinyurl.com/33eta5h -Firewing _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list -- ~Ryshili _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rsg0910 at iglou.com Mon Oct 11 15:12:13 2010 From: rsg0910 at iglou.com (Robert Goodwin) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:12:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FL: Haunted House article In-Reply-To: <8CD37520B367746-1350-156A@web-mmc-m02.sysops.aol.com> from "bdbfox@outgun.com" at Oct 11, 2010 07:53:24 AM Message-ID: > For reasons I can't fully comprehend white rabbit suits have really > blown up recently on the haunted house scene. White rabbits are becoming > the new evil clown. First it was werewolves, then evil clowns (Stephen King's IT), now it's evil rabbits? Ye gods, what's next? > There is, however, a pretty famous urban legend/possible actual incident > where it might have started: the Bunny Man of rural Virginia. This tale > of a fursuited killer and the railroad tracks where his victims turn up > has been floating around since the 70's. As it turns out, I'm not far from the area. Take a look at the coordinates in the wikipedia page, then follow Bing's Bird's Eye link. Halloween cometh. I may very well visit for the heck of it. That reminds me... We've had a couple people put cameras in their heads rather than use their eyes. How about using a digicam as part of your suit head to take pics? No need to carry around a camera. Just push a button on your chin or paw, and you got a pic. http://www.hammacher.com/Product/77464?promo=Sports-Leisure -boogi- (canecam, anyone?) From marcwolf at marcwolf.org Tue Oct 12 07:03:11 2010 From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (marcwolf.org) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:03:11 +1000 Subject: FL: Haunted House article In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > That reminds me... We've had a couple people put cameras in their heads > rather than use their eyes. How about using a digicam as part of > your suit With the current suit I am working on I am using the video system that Lionel (LionoftheSun) has developed. That is the one where you view the world through iPod Video glasses and have the camera's elsewhere in the suit. Anyway - I was able to pick up a very cheap video tranmitter/reciever board set where size of the board is about 2.5cm x 2.5cm. So I put the transmitter in the head with the camera's and the IPod glasses. I was able to pick up a little 5" LCD monitor from eBay that is used to car reversing systems, and added the reciever to that with a little 12V battery part. The result... WolfCam. I can hand the LCD to someone and then wander around , and they can see everything that I am seeing :> I also have a On-Screen-Display chip (Max7456) so I can overlay menu's, info like battery voltage, and with a sonar how far things are from my muzzle.. And all of this is also fed to the LCD so it can almost look like a Terminator display printout. I know.. very high tech.. But I enjoy the development Take Care Marc From frysco-sender-6f5fe9 at gryphonic.org Tue Oct 12 14:32:46 2010 From: frysco-sender-6f5fe9 at gryphonic.org (Francisco Azinsan) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:32:46 -0500 Subject: FL: FC2011 October Newsletter Message-ID: <20101012183246.GA93947@critter.net> FC 2011 October Newsletter In this issue: 1. Fairmont sold out, overflow hotel opening soon 2. Furry Market Place already at 55% capacity! 3. Dealer Room Waiting List 4. Still accepting Con Book submissions 5. Badge Art Wanted! 6. Fursuit Badge submissions 7. Travel Assistance 8. Pre Registration Deadline, December 30th, 2010 10. Next Public Meeting 1. Fairmont sold out, overflow hotel opening soon We're sorry to say the Fairmont is now sold out. Please stay tuned to our website, Forums, LiveJournal, and other venues for an upcoming announcement when the overflow hotel block opens. The overflow hotel is again the St. Claire, just a short stroll from the Fairmont. Information on the overflow will be released soon. For your convenience here is a walking map of the downtown area: 2. Furry Market Place already at 55% capacity! Spaces in the Furry Market Place are going fast! If you have a desire to sell your wares at Further Confusion 2011 and that material is acceptable to all audiences, then the Furry Market Place may work for you. Head on over to the Furry Market Place page of the Further Confusion website at for all the rules and limitations... as well as the Furry Market Place sign-up form. If the Furry Market Place will work for you, fill out the sign-up form and send it in with your $75.00 payment (personal check or money orders only, please) to the address given on the form. Sales of Furry Market Place spaces will close when all 20 have sold, or December 15th 2010, whichever comes first. We will NOT be selling spaces at the con this year. Once sales have closed in December any unsold spaces will be offered as extra space for our charities. 3. Dealer Room Waiting List The Dealer Room Waiting list is the place you want to apply to if you find the Furry Market Place will not fit your needs. When someone that currently has a table in the Further Confusion 2011 Dealer Room finds that they will not be able to make it to the convention, they contact us and get their full refund. Then the space they gave up gets offered in a 'Random Lottery' to a person on the waiting list. Cancellations can happen at any time. We've already had one and gave that space to a luck person from the waiting list. The most common time to have cancellations is in the last 6 weeks before the convention. In some of our past years every person on the waiting list got into the main dealer room. But there have also been times when that has not been the case. Our recommendation, even if you DO choose to apply to the waiting list, is to look at the list of dealers shown on the website, and if you see one of your friends there, ask them if they are going to need help manning their table. Maybe the will split the cost of the table with you? And remember, whatever you do, if you are going to sell product at the convention, to seek a sellers permit from the California Board of Equalization BEFORE you get to the convention. If you choose to get on the waiting list, go to the Dealers page on the Further Confusion website and download the Waiting List Application. Fill it out and send it in to the address on the form. We will close the Waiting List to new applicants on December 15th, 2010. 4. Still accepting Con Book submissions The official deadline for con book submissions has passed. However we will be extending it and are currently still accepting submissions, both written and drawn. Requirements and specifications can be found on the convention Web site at . Any questions not addressed by the Web page can be directed to conbook at furtherconfusion.org. Thanks, and we look forward to hearing from you! 5. Badge Art Wanted! Further Confusion is currently seeking artwork submissions for the 2011 membership badge inserts. Both color and black & white artwork will be accepted, and all artwork will be considered on overall 'look and feel', plus these additional points: Size: Art must scale to be printed at 4" x 2". Theme: Art must accurately reflect the theme of the con. Age appropriateness: The art must be suitable for viewing by children. Branding: 'FC', 'FurCon' or 'Further Confusion' and the convention year, '2011', must be present. Artists submitting images should be aware that there is no payment for badge art chosen, and the artist gives Further Confusion the right to reproduce the image in the con program book and as badge art for FC2011. The artist will be credited on the insert and in the con program book. The artist retains all other copyrights and reproduction rights beyond the above. Submission deadline is November 1st, 2010. All qualifying submissions will be seriously considered and 6 designs will be chosen for use. All artists will be notified by December 1st as to whether or not their submissions have been chosen. Submissions should be in JPG format at best possible quality compression, 300 DPI (1200x600 pixels) minimum. An 8" by 4" original scanned at 300 DPI produces a good file to work with. Badge art submissions should be sent to badge-art at furtherconfusion.org. In the email specify your website (if you want it listed) and how you wish to be credited should your art be chosen. 6. Fursuit Badge submissions If you have a fursuit, are pre-registered, and need a fursuit badge, here's what to do. Before January 1, 2011, send a picture of your fursuit to fursuit-badges at furtherconfusion.org and include the following information in the email: - Your real name - The fursuit name - Your membership badge number The file can be any standard picture format (JPEG, PNG, TIFF, etc.) at 300 dpi with a usable area of 450 by 600 pixels. Your first fursuit badge is free (though a donation to the convention would be appreciated), any subsequent badges are $5 each. Photographs for fursuit badges will also be taken at the convention. Please see the times that will be posted at the Registration Desk for the hours this will be offered. If you are not sure that you have registered, please contact Registration at registration at furtherconfusion.org. 7. Travel Assistance Each year, we have some folks who need a little bit of extra help in affording the trip to Further Confusion. This is your chance to help them out. The folks listed on this page are folks who have specifically requested help from the fandom and are people we feel are worthy of your consideration. If you need just a little help in getting to Further Confusion 2011, we're here for you! FC can offer travel assistance to those in need. Just email us at info at furtherconfusion.org with 'Travel Assistance' in the subject line, and we'll add you to the list below. When emailing us, make sure that you include your real name, fan name, mailing address, and provide a brief description about yourself and what you feel you can contribute to the convention. Note that the deadline for getting on to the travel assistance list is November 1, 2010. If you want to make a donation to the convention to help a specific person, here's how you do it. Send us a check (our address is listed on our Contact page at with the name of the individual listed in the memo field of the check (or money order, as the case may be). We will deposit that check into our accounts, and in after the request deadline, we will notify the person of the amount received on their behalf. We will NOT reveal the names of persons who have made such contributions unless both the recipient and the donor desire us to. 8. Pre Registration Deadline, December 30th, 2010 What are you waiting for? Don't let the deadline slip you by. You would be surprised to know how many people forget to do this. Don't let it happen to you! Pre-register now for only $45! 9: AAE now accepting bids to chair FC2012 Every year, AAE, Inc, the parent corporation opens up bids for running the new years convention. It's that time of year again. AAE, Inc, is announcing that the bid process for FC2012 is now open. For detailed information on how to submit a bid to run Further Confusion 2012, please see the following link. The Deadline for Bid submissions is December 1st, 2010. 10. Next Public Meeting Our next staff meeting will be on October 23rd, starting at 1pm in the San Jose Fairmont hotel. -- Further Confusion info at furtherconfusion.org From carraigwa at yahoo.com Mon Oct 18 21:56:05 2010 From: carraigwa at yahoo.com (Carraig) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: (no subject) Message-ID: <751300.1797.qm@web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://catterplanet.it/and1.html From espilonarge at gmail.com Mon Oct 18 22:25:52 2010 From: espilonarge at gmail.com (Christopher Halyday) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:25:52 +1000 Subject: FL: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <751300.1797.qm@web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <751300.1797.qm@web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: A "no subject" email with just a link that has no indication what the link is about or where it really leads to being sent to multiple email addresses? Yeeaaahhh... I'd say this person has had their email program hijacked by a trojan. Be smart people, these are the 3 signs that can lead to you getting infected if you're not careful. Using an external program (eg = Outlook Express) that holds bookmarks to peoples email addresses can be hijacked if you click on an link like that. On 10/19/10, Carraig wrote: ~infected weblink address removed~ From frysco-sender-6f5fe9 at gryphonic.org Thu Nov 11 14:50:29 2010 From: frysco-sender-6f5fe9 at gryphonic.org (Francisco Azinsan) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:50:29 -0600 Subject: FL: FC2011 November Newsletter Message-ID: <20101111195029.GA12217@critter.net> In this issue: 1. Hotel Cancellations 2. Last Chance Convention Book Submissions 3. The Open Mic 4. EVE's Karaoke Club 5. Furry Market Place already at 75% capacity! 6. Dealer Room Waiting List 7. Chin-wag Events 8. Overflow Hotel - The Sainte Claire 9. Parking at the Fairmont 10. Complimentary High-Speed Internet Access at the Fairmont 11. Fursuit Badge submissions 12. Pre-Registration Deadline, December 30th, 2010 13. AAE now accepting bids to chair FC2012 14. Next Public Meeting 1. Hotel Cancellations Due to some cancellations, our convention hotel - the San Jose Fairmont - has a few single-king rooms available. ; Please act fast as these few rooms can be taken at any moment. ; Please see for a link to the online registration form and phone number. 2. Last Chance Convention Book Submissions You still have a chance to get your submissions for the Further Confusion 2011 conbook. We will be considering all submissions received before December 1st. Requirements and specifications can be found on the convention Web site at . Any questions not addressed by the Web page can be directed to conbook at furtherconfusion.org. 3. The Open Mic Want to get up in front of ; the mic and tell some jokes, read some poetry or sing a song to your favorite furs? ; Then join Further Confusion's open mic night on Friday evening of the convention! ; Dust of your material and come have some fun! ; Sign-ups for 5-7 minute sets will be taken at the door, first come first up. 4. EVE's Karaoke Club Looking for a little more variety in your Saturday night convention experience? Swing past EVE's Karaoke Club and belt out a few tunes with your friends at Eve Miyasaki's Karaoke event on Saturday night starting at 9pm. Eve brings a diverse selection of songs in Spanish, Japanese and English, along with many others. 5. Furry Market Place already at 75% capacity! Spaces in the Furry Market Place are going fast! If you have a desire to sell your wares at Further Confusion 2011 and that material is acceptable to all audiences, then the Furry Market Place may work for you. Head on over to the Furry Market Place page of the Further Confusion website at for all the rules and limitations... as well as the Furry Market Place sign-up form. ; If the Furry Market Place will work for you, fill out the sign-up form and send it in with your US$75.00 payment (personal check or money orders only, please) to the address given on the form. Sales of Furry Market Place spaces will close when all 20 have sold, or December 15th, whichever comes first. ; We will NOT be selling spaces at the con this year. Once sales have closed in December any unsold spaces will be offered as extra space for our charities. 6. Dealer Room Waiting List The Dealer Room Waiting list is the place you want to apply to if you find the Furry Market Place will not fit your needs. When someone that currently has a table in the Further Confusion 2011 Dealer Room finds that they will not be able to make it to the convention, they contact us and get their full refund. Then the space they gave up gets offered in a 'Random Lottery' to a person on the waiting list. Cancellations can happen at any time. We've already had one and gave that space to a luck person from the waiting list. The most common time to have cancellations is in the last 6 weeks before the convention. In some of our past years every person on the waiting list got into the main dealer room. But there have also been times when that has not been the case. Our recommendation, even if you DO choose to apply to the waiting list, is to look at the list of dealers shown on the website, and if you see one of your friends there, ask them if they are going to need help manning their table. Maybe the will split the cost of the table with you? And remember, whatever you do, if you are going to sell product at the convention, to seek a sellers permit from the California Board of Equalization BEFORE you get to the convention. If you choose to get on the waiting list, go to the Dealers page on the Further Confusion website and download the Waiting List Application. Fill it out and send it in to the address on the form. We will close the Waiting List to new applicants on December 15th, 2010. And a final note: Make sure 'dealers at furtherconfusion.org' is on your allowed list for email, as that is the address that table offers from the waiting list will come from. We have already had at least one person miss their offers because the offer went into their spam bucket. 7. Chin-wag Events The Social track is looking for regional furs for chin-wag events (social gatherings chit-chats) A basic outline will be given, please include what area you're from so we can get you on the list. ; These are short panels that provides ways for furs to quickly get acquainted ; with folks in the area and resources available to find folks. ; While we are looking for regional furs, if you think you also have other ideas send messages to us at programming at furtherconfusion.org and we'll try to our best to set-aside space. 8. Overflow Hotel - The Sainte Claire Our overflow hotel this year is the historic Sainte Claire Hotel, located across the street from the Fairmont. The room rate is $119 per night. Reservations can be by calling the hotel directly at (408) 295-2000 or toll free (866) 870-0726 ; and asking for the Fur Con rate. The hotel is just a few hundred feet from the con and each room offers refrigerators, DVD players, and complimentary wireless internet (some rooms also have a wired port). 9. Parking at the Fairmont Parking for FC2011 can be really cheap, or even free! This all depends onyour arrival and departure times and careful examination of the fee andtime schedules for the public parking lots. Check out our Parking Information page at for more details. 10. Complimentary High-Speed Internet Access at the Fairmont A reminder for those who have booked rooms at the Fairmont: Be sure to join Fairmont's President's Club. There are many benefits including express check-in, free local calls, and perhaps most importantly, complimentary in-room Internet. Enrollment is free. Visit to sign up. 11. Fursuit Badge submissions If you have a fursuit, are pre-registered, and need a fursuit badge, here's what to do. ; Before January 1, 2011, send a picture of your fursuit to fursuit-badges at furtherconfusion.org and include the following information in the email: - Your real name - The fursuit name - Your membership badge number The file can be any standard picture format (JPEG, PNG, TIFF, etc.) at 300 DPI with a usable area of 450 by 600 pixels. Your first fursuit badge is free (though a donation to the convention would be appreciated), any subsequent badges are $5 each. Photographs for fursuit badges will also be taken at the convention. Please see the times that will be posted at the Registration Desk for the hours this will be offered. If you are not sure that you have registered, please contact Registration at registration at furtherconfusion.org. 12. Pre-Registration Deadline, December 30th, 2010 What are you waiting for? Don't let the deadline slip you by. You would be surprised to know how many people forget to do this. Don't let it happen to you! Pre-register now for only $45! 13. AAE now accepting bids to chair FC2012 Every year, AAE, Inc, the parent corporation opens up bids for running the new years convention. It's that time of year again. AAE, Inc, is announcing that the bid process for FC2012 is now open. For detailed information on how to submit a bid to run Further Confusion 2012, please visit . The Deadline for Bid submissions is December 1st, 2010. 14. Next Public Meeting Our next staff meeting will be on November 13th, starting at 1pm in the San Jose Fairmont hotel. -- Further Confusion info at furtherconfusion.org From smorizio at hotmail.com Tue Nov 16 16:31:37 2010 From: smorizio at hotmail.com (steven morizio) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:31:37 -0500 Subject: FL: jo-anns black friday sale. 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I'm using a home-built box and I'm heating stuff in the oven. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...123002046a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...1123002043.jpg ******************************************* Homer: That baby-proofing crook wanted to sell us safety covers for the electrical outlets. But I'll just draw bunny faces on them to scare Maggie away. Marge: She's not afraid of bunnies. Homer: (ominously) She will be. From furrycouple at hotmail.com Wed Nov 24 12:34:52 2010 From: furrycouple at hotmail.com (Johara Saluki) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 10:34:52 -0700 Subject: FL: Question on vacuuforming In-Reply-To: <203572.41779.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <203572.41779.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have had this problem in the past and it was due to two factors. 1) turning off the vacuum too soon and, 2) overheating the plastic I overcame this by mounting the cold stock over the mould then slowly heating the stock by hand with a heat gun. This only works with smaller projects due to the heat required (more if you are using styrene...less if you are using gec) > Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 23:43:05 -0800 > From: mhagen_2001 at yahoo.com > To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org > Subject: FL: Question on vacuuforming > > I've done some vacuuforming for some projects of mine, but I'm troubled by a > problem that I can't solve. > > Many times, the final plastic product is plagued by wrinkles as the plastic > conforms to the final shape. I simply cannot figure out why it does it and why > it doesn't, and I don't have much time or spare plastic to figure it out. > Anyone have any experience with the process that can help out? > > I'm using a home-built box and I'm heating stuff in the oven. > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...123002046a.jpg > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...1123002043.jpg > > > > ******************************************* > Homer: That baby-proofing crook wanted to sell us safety > covers for the electrical outlets. But I'll just draw > bunny faces on them to scare Maggie away. > Marge: She's not afraid of bunnies. > Homer: (ominously) She will be. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhagen_2001 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 25 12:11:07 2010 From: mhagen_2001 at yahoo.com (Patch) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 09:11:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: FL: Question on vacuuforming In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <165896.45956.qm@web50306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I found a site that mentioned excess plastic as another cause. I made a smaller box, and that seemed to work. I figured excess heat was an issue as well, but I'd been having trouble getting that aspect sorted out. --Patch ******************************************* Homer: That baby-proofing crook wanted to sell us safety covers for the electrical outlets. But I'll just draw bunny faces on them to scare Maggie away. Marge: She's not afraid of bunnies. Homer: (ominously) She will be. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johara Saluki To: I have had this problem in the past and it was due to two factors. 1) turning off the vacuum too soon and, 2) overheating the plastic I overcame this by mounting the cold stock over the mould then slowly heating the stock by hand with a heat gun. This only works with smaller projects due to the heat required (more if you are using styrene...less if you are using gec) > Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 23:43:05 -0800 > From: mhagen_2001 at yahoo.com > To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org > Subject: FL: Question on vacuuforming > > I've done some vacuuforming for some projects of mine, but I'm troubled by a > problem that I can't solve. > > Many times, the final plastic product is plagued by wrinkles as the plastic > conforms to the final shape. I simply cannot figure out why it does it and >why > > it doesn't, and I don't have much time or spare plastic to figure it out. > Anyone have any experience with the process that can help out? > > I'm using a home-built box and I'm heating stuff in the oven. > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...123002046a.jpg > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...1123002043.jpg From yappyfox at thefoxden.com Tue Dec 7 13:07:53 2010 From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (Yappy Sly Fox) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 13:07:53 -0500 Subject: FL: Domain expiration, recovered. Message-ID: <20101207180753.GA6530@penfold.furryhost.com> Some of you mave have noticed that fursuit.org domain had expired. I tried to contact Robert King, with no avail, but I did find a way to be able tro pay the domain (without registry transfer) so it is up for at least another year. mail list resume :> -- ____ |\/| \ /\ / ..__. The Yappy Sly Fox ^..^ (vulpes yappaloticus) \/ \__\ _/ http://www.thefoxden.com/ \__ __ \_ http://thefoxden.com/pubkey for PGP Public Key \____\___\ PGP Fingerprint: 1A4B 5F5F 62FF 295D 6204 4029 6FDF 78BA 24F1 7785 From fox at flyingfox.biz Tue Dec 7 13:18:17 2010 From: fox at flyingfox.biz (fox kinsman) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 13:18:17 -0500 Subject: FL: Domain expiration, recovered. In-Reply-To: <20101207180753.GA6530@penfold.furryhost.com> References: <20101207180753.GA6530@penfold.furryhost.com> Message-ID: <424CCCC1-F046-4C5E-BA95-7E1E83997C30@flyingfox.biz> Way to go Yappy! Woot Awesome dude! =) ~Scape On Dec 7, 2010, at 1:07 PM, Yappy Sly Fox wrote: Some of you mave have noticed that fursuit.org domain had expired. I tried to contact Robert King, with no avail, but I did find a way to be able tro pay the domain (without registry transfer) so it is up for at least another year. mail list resume :> -- ____ |\/| \ /\ / ..__. The Yappy Sly Fox ^..^ (vulpes yappaloticus) \/ \__\ _/ http://www.thefoxden.com/ \__ __ \_ http://thefoxden.com/pubkey for PGP Public Key \____\___\ PGP Fingerprint: 1A4B 5F5F 62FF 295D 6204 4029 6FDF 78BA 24F1 7785 _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list From frysco-sender-6f5fe9 at gryphonic.org Sat Dec 11 19:29:41 2010 From: frysco-sender-6f5fe9 at gryphonic.org (Francisco Azinsan) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 16:29:41 -0800 Subject: FL: FC2011 December Newsletter Message-ID: <20101212002941.GA58642@critter.net> December 2010 Newsletter 1. Pre-Registration closing soon! 2. Fursuit Badge photographs 3. Open Mic Night Sign-ups! 4. Fursuit Parade 5. Furry Market Place sales close December 15th, 2010! Only 5 spots left! 6. Dealer Room Waiting List closes December 15th, 2010! 7. Special Note to existing Dealers 8. Con Ops looking for workers 9. Instrumental Sight-reading Panel! 10. Overflow hotel filling up 11. Critterlympics Sign-ups: 12. Parking at Further Confusion 2011 13. Next staff meetings 1. Pre-Registration closing soon! Pre-registration closes on December 30th at 11:59pm, so don't delay if you haven't registered yet. Mail-in forms should be postmarked by December 30th as well, to give us time to get things entered. All updates and changes need to be received no later than January 5th, 2011. 2. Fursuit Badge photographs If you have a fursuit, are pre-registered, and would like a fursuit badge, here's what to do. Check out for what you need to do to get a fursuit badge. 3. Open Mic Night Sign-ups! Wanna get up on stage to tell a few jokes or read some poetry or whatever? We've got the gig for you! On Friday night we're holding an Open Mic! Sign up for a 5 - 7 minute time slot early by sending mail to events at furtherconfusion.org. We'll also be taking sign-ups first-come-first-served at the door! This event is open to convention members 18 years and older. 4. Fursuit Parade Come and join us for the Saturday tradition of the Fursuit Parade where the costumes come to you! Come and cheer on our costumers as they parade through the convention to show you, our guests, their fantastic creations! The parade will start at 2:00PM from the Imperial Ballroom. If you're participating in the fursuit parade for FC2011, staging will start at 1:00PM in the Imperial Ballroom. Come and get yourself (and your costume) lined up and ready to roll for the parade! Please try to be here early to help us get the most accurate count of participants as possible and to get a great spot when the parade starts! 5. Furry Market Place sales close December 15th, 2010! Only 5 spots left! We have 5 spots left in the Furry Market Place, but sales CLOSE for these spaces on December 15th, 2010. So if YOU want to sell your general audiences wares at Further Confusion 2011, get your application in to us NOW! We will NOT be selling unsold spaces at the convention! Unsold spaces will be removed from the layout or added to the space being used by our charities! For more information, visit today! Applications MUST be sent in by Postal Mail. We do NOT accept applications by email. 6. Dealer Room Waiting List closes December 15th, 2010! Yes, there are still people waiting patiently on the Dealer Room Waiting list for their chance at any space that opens up in Further Confusion 2011's Dealer Room through cancellations. But YOU can also be one of those and have an EQUAL chance in the drawing(s) for any space(s) that may open up between December 15th, 2010 and the first day of the convention. Weather, family illness and other situations can always make it so that one of our fine dealers have to choose to cancel their space in the Dealers Room. And if that happens, we turn to those on the Dealer Room Waiting List in a random drawing from all on that list. So, if you want a CHANCE to get into the main Dealer Room, and don't mind not knowing for sure until what might be the last moment before con, head over to and scroll down to the forms area for the link to the Dealer Room Waiting List application. We ONLY accept applications by postal mail! We do NOT accept applications by email. 7. Special Note to existing Dealers The first draft of the 'Who Sits Where' list for the Main Dealer Room is now on the website. Also, our final confirmation postal mailing will go out the week of December 13th. So if you have MOVED and your MAILING address has changed, please EMAIL dealers at furtherconfusion.org with your updated postal address. These confirmations only go out by Postal Mail. While the informational letter that goes out will also be made available on the website, your private confirmation will ONLY go out by postal mail. 8. Con Ops looking for workers ConOps has the schedule up and as usual has holes in the late night / early am shifts in case you know a night owl or two who are looking for a roost. 9. Instrumental Sight-reading Panel! Are you a Musician? Do you Play an Instrument? Are you looking to Improve your sight reading? This is the panel for you. Sight-reading is an integral part of many aspects of the professional music world. From Film Score recording, to Big band Gigs, to Auditions for Professional Bands and Orchestra's. Sight-reading is a Staple of todays music world. DJ Wolf (David Johnson) is an Experienced Saxophonist, Performer, and Composer. Bring your instruments to this unique panel and Learn to Improve your playing abilities with this essential Skill! This event is open to everyone novice to experienced. If you play an instrument bring to FC 2011! Contact dmccluremusic at gmail.com 10. Overflow hotel filling up Our overflow hotel, the St. Claire, is now sold out of single-bed rooms. Two-bed rooms are still available. 11. Critterlympics Sign-ups: Its time again for one and all to compete for the honor of your city, town, village,hockey region, county, independent fiefdom,country, species, clan, tribe, omnipocket, subculture, and meme! Signup for participation is required and will start on Saturday at noon near the InfoDesk by the High Surly Keeper of the Bat. No early Sign-ups will be taken prior to that time. 12. Parking at Further Confusion 2011 Parking for FC2011 can be really cheap, or even free! This all depends on your arrival and departure times and careful examination of the fee and time schedules for the public parking lots. Check out our Parking Information page at for more details. 13. Next staff meetings Our next staff meeting will be on December 18th, starting at 1 pm in the San Jose Fairmont. The final meeting will be on January 16th at the same time and is mandatory for ALL staff. Parking is available in the surrounding area but is not free. The parking lot closest to the hotel will run $7 for the duration of the meeting. -- Further Confusion info at furtherconfusion.org From donkeyears at gmail.com Sat Dec 18 16:07:45 2010 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:07:45 -0600 Subject: FL: Looking for fursuiters Message-ID: I am doing a skit at FCs FC unleashed and need some fursuiters. If you might be interested please contact me off list. Donkey DonkeyEars at gmail.com From donkeyears at gmail.com Sat Dec 18 16:11:36 2010 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:11:36 -0600 Subject: FL: FL website Message-ID: For some reason I cant log into the FL website. Donkey From treacle1690 at aol.com Sun Dec 19 15:16:37 2010 From: treacle1690 at aol.com (Simon) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 20:16:37 +0000 Subject: FL: FL website Message-ID: Oh fuck off already Sent from Samsung mobile Donkey wrote: >For some reason I cant log into the FL website. > >Donkey >_______________________________________________ >_______________________________________________ >Fursuit Mail list. >To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list From yappyfox at thefoxden.com Sun Dec 19 15:30:52 2010 From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (Yappy Sly Fox) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 15:30:52 -0500 Subject: FL: FL website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20101219203052.GA4302@penfold.furryhost.com> There is no need to respond to this.. I have removed this person from the mail list, as that was definetly uncalled for. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 08:16:37PM +0000, Simon wrote: > Oh fuck off already > > Sent from Samsung mobile > > Donkey wrote: > > >For some reason I cant log into the FL website. > > > >Donkey > >_______________________________________________ > >_______________________________________________ > >Fursuit Mail list. > >To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list -- ____ |\/| \ /\ / ..__. The Yappy Sly Fox ^..^ (vulpes yappaloticus) \/ \__\ _/ http://www.thefoxden.com/ \__ __ \_ http://thefoxden.com/pubkey for PGP Public Key \____\___\ PGP Fingerprint: 1A4B 5F5F 62FF 295D 6204 4029 6FDF 78BA 24F1 7785 From snglspdcat at gmail.com Sun Dec 19 23:12:31 2010 From: snglspdcat at gmail.com (single speed cheeta) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 20:12:31 -0800 Subject: FL: FL website In-Reply-To: <20101219203052.GA4302@penfold.furryhost.com> References: <20101219203052.GA4302@penfold.furryhost.com> Message-ID: Yappy, Thanks very much. Happy Holidays SSC On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Yappy Sly Fox wrote: > There is no need to respond to this.. I have removed this person from the > mail list, as that was definetly uncalled for. > > > > On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 08:16:37PM +0000, Simon wrote: > > Oh fuck off already > > > > Sent from Samsung mobile > > > > Donkey wrote: > > > > >For some reason I cant log into the FL website. > > > > > >Donkey > > >_______________________________________________ > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Fursuit Mail list. > > >To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > Fursuit Mail list. > > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > > -- > > ____ |\/| > \ /\ / ..__. The Yappy Sly Fox ^..^ (vulpes yappaloticus) > \/ \__\ _/ http://www.thefoxden.com/ > \__ __ \_ http://thefoxden.com/pubkey for PGP Public Key > \____\___\ > > PGP Fingerprint: 1A4B 5F5F 62FF 295D 6204 4029 6FDF 78BA 24F1 7785 > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robert.c.king at alcatel-lucent.com Mon Dec 20 13:37:57 2010 From: robert.c.king at alcatel-lucent.com (Robert C. King) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 12:37:57 -0600 Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D0FA285.1080701@alcatel-lucent.com> Hey Yappy - Thanks for re-upping the domain! Sorry I dropped the ball this year (first time since 1997) FYI, I can usually be reached at rcking at speakeasy.net or through LJ message or even FA message. Thanks again, Robert On 12/8/2010 11:00 AM, fursuit-list-request at lists.fursuit.org wrote: > > Some of you mave have noticed that fursuit.org domain had expired. I tried to contact Robert King, with no avail, but I did find a way to be able tro pay the domain (without registry transfer) so it is up for at least another year. > > mail list resume :> > > From donkeyears at gmail.com Wed Dec 22 07:52:29 2010 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 06:52:29 -0600 Subject: FL: FC skit Message-ID: I still need one last person to fill the last slot for my FC skit. Donkey