From hairman at earthlink.net Fri Jan 7 12:12:55 2011 From: hairman at earthlink.net (Richard Halliday) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: FL: Richard Halliday wants to stay in touch on LinkedIn Message-ID: <1234968667.1985571.1294420375472.JavaMail.app@ela4-bed39.prod> LinkedIn ------------ I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Richard Halliday Richard Halliday Firmware Engineer at Zircon Inc. San Francisco Bay Area Confirm that you know Richard Halliday https://www.linkedin.com/e/rvta4h-gincgxwt-5x/isd/2106739068/5e7ouSju/ -- (c) 2010, LinkedIn Corporation -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This could get awkward. >:D On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Richard Halliday wrote: > LinkedIn > > I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. > > - Richard Halliday > Richard Halliday > Firmware Engineer at Zircon Inc. > San Francisco Bay Area > > Confirm that you know Richard > > ? 2010, LinkedIn Corporation > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > > -- -Delph- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greenreaper at hotmail.com Fri Jan 7 12:45:33 2011 From: greenreaper at hotmail.com (Laurence Parry) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:45:33 -0500 Subject: FL: Richard Halliday wants to stay in touch on LinkedIn In-Reply-To: References: <1234968667.1985571.1294420375472.JavaMail.app@ela4-bed39.prod> Message-ID: > > I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. > Hahaha. This could get awkward. >:D Already a third connection for me! I put all my furry stuff on LinkedIn as relevant experience. I figure I won't miss the kind of employers who might be put off by it. -- Laurence "GreenReaper" Parry http://greenreaper.co.uk - http://wikifur.com - http://flayrah.com "Eternity lies ahead of us, and behind. Have you drunk your fill?" From skippy at sk1p.com Sun Jan 9 12:55:09 2011 From: skippy at sk1p.com (Zack F) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 12:55:09 -0500 Subject: FL: Fursuiting at parks/landmarks? Message-ID: <9E8914A3B51D46C5AEB94C8A531B3224@Phineas> I want to see how many pictures I could get in fursuit in front of various famous parks or landmarks, e.g. the Statue of Liberty, Grand Canyon, Mount Rushmore, etc. ...Or if it is worth trying. Has anybody fursuited at places like these in the U.S. or elsewhere? Was it a partial or full suit? I?m looking for tips on places that are not difficult to suit up at, or particularly where I will not find myself attempting to outrun teams of burly security officers. :) For instance, I had attempted to do the Statue of Liberty last weekend, and it turned out I hadn?t done enough research first: Large bags are not allowed, and you must pass through airport style security before boarding the ferries, making this photo difficult or impossible to get (at least with a full suit). (http://www.nps.gov/stli/planyourvisit/things2know.htm ) Any ideas, suggestions? 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San Francisco Bay Area Confirm that you know Richard ? 2010, LinkedIn Corporation _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list -- -Delph- -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From santafox at comcast.net Fri Jan 14 21:44:00 2011 From: santafox at comcast.net (Santa Fox) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 02:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: FL: Odd TV Show With Segment on Fursuits Message-ID: <342865575.1353436.1295059440634.JavaMail.root@sz0174a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I don't have cable any longer, but my mother does and she told me about a commercial she saw on TLC for an episode of "My Strange Addiction" airing next Wednesday night (1/19/2011). This episode is going to feature a segment about a girl (identified only as Lauren A.) who is addicted to fursuits. I checked the website and found this rather short write-up about the episode with a single picture: http://tlc.discovery.com/tv/my-strange-addiction/episode-guide-13.html I know nothing about the show or how it treats these subjects, but I thought I'd share the information in case anyone is curious, has cable, and wants to watch it and report back here. Cheers, Santa Fox --- Santa Fox's Den - http://www.jinglefox.com/ From yappyfox at thefoxden.com Sat Jan 15 21:18:57 2011 From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (yappyfox at thefoxden.com) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:18:57 -0500 Subject: FL: test Message-ID: Just a test.. From skippy at sk1p.com Sun Jan 16 12:32:05 2011 From: skippy at sk1p.com (Zack F) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 12:32:05 -0500 Subject: FL: Odd TV Show With Segment on Fursuits In-Reply-To: <342865575.1353436.1295059440634.JavaMail.root@sz0174a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <342865575.1353436.1295059440634.JavaMail.root@sz0174a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <01E0448FC132484EB4162532F0387EB1@Phineas> Flayrah has some more information about it - http://www.flayrah.com/3375/furs-feature-tlcs-my-strange-addiction-jan-19 In before GreenReaper plugs his own article. *grins* --skippy -----Original Message----- From: Santa Fox Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:44 PM To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org Subject: FL: Odd TV Show With Segment on Fursuits I don't have cable any longer, but my mother does and she told me about a commercial she saw on TLC for an episode of "My Strange Addiction" airing next Wednesday night (1/19/2011). This episode is going to feature a segment about a girl (identified only as Lauren A.) who is addicted to fursuits. I checked the website and found this rather short write-up about the episode with a single picture: http://tlc.discovery.com/tv/my-strange-addiction/episode-guide-13.html I know nothing about the show or how it treats these subjects, but I thought I'd share the information in case anyone is curious, has cable, and wants to watch it and report back here. Cheers, Santa Fox --- Santa Fox's Den - http://www.jinglefox.com/ _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list From aidenislove at yahoo.com Sun Jan 16 18:32:33 2011 From: aidenislove at yahoo.com (Aiden Raccoon) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:32:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: FL: Fursuiting at parks/landmarks? In-Reply-To: <9E8914A3B51D46C5AEB94C8A531B3224@Phineas> References: <9E8914A3B51D46C5AEB94C8A531B3224@Phineas> Message-ID: <425650.63297.qm@web33905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This sounds like a case where you are just going to have to make a special arrangement with the Park Service. ________________________________ From: Zack F To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 11:55:09 AM Subject: FL: Fursuiting at parks/landmarks? I want to see how many pictures I could get in fursuit in front of various famous parks or landmarks, e.g. the Statue of Liberty, Grand Canyon, Mount Rushmore, etc. ...Or if it is worth trying. Has anybody fursuited at places like these in the U.S. or elsewhere? Was it a partial or full suit? I?m looking for tips on places that are not difficult to suit up at, or particularly where I will not find myself attempting to outrun teams of burly security officers. :) For instance, I had attempted to do the Statue of Liberty last weekend, and it turned out I hadn?t done enough research first: Large bags are not allowed, and you must pass through airport style security before boarding the ferries, making this photo difficult or impossible to get (at least with a full suit). (http://www.nps.gov/stli/planyourvisit/things2know.htm) Any ideas, suggestions? Thanks! --skippyfox -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From minnieme4rl at aol.com Sun Jan 16 19:18:44 2011 From: minnieme4rl at aol.com (Minnie) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 16:18:44 -0800 Subject: FL: Fursuiting at parks/landmarks? In-Reply-To: <425650.63297.qm@web33905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <9E8914A3B51D46C5AEB94C8A531B3224@Phineas> <425650.63297.qm@web33905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9950CFC1-1F22-4E54-951F-58E3B3D734EA@aol.com> SeaWolf, YotieCoyote and I suited at the Grand Canyon last June. There are so many observation areas, that you just drive to the one that interests you, park, change in the car, and get out for photos. There are no security checks. We didn't stay very long at any one site, and it was mainly for photos, though one area had a lot of families with kids and they all wanted photos. -Minnie Sent from my iPhone On Jan 16, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Aiden Raccoon wrote: > This sounds like a case where you are just going to have to make a special arrangement with the Park Service. > > From: Zack F > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 11:55:09 AM > Subject: FL: Fursuiting at parks/landmarks? > > I want to see how many pictures I could get in fursuit in front of various famous parks or landmarks, e.g. the Statue of Liberty, Grand Canyon, Mount Rushmore, etc. ...Or if it is worth trying. > > Has anybody fursuited at places like these in the U.S. or elsewhere? Was it a partial or full suit? I?m looking for tips on places that are not difficult to suit up at, or particularly where I will not find myself attempting to outrun teams of burly security officers. :) > > For instance, I had attempted to do the Statue of Liberty last weekend, and it turned out I hadn?t done enough research first: Large bags are not allowed, and you must pass through airport style security before boarding the ferries, making this photo difficult or impossible to get (at least with a full suit). (http://www.nps.gov/stli/planyourvisit/things2know.htm ) > > Any ideas, suggestions? Thanks! > > --skippyfox > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Mark Sinicki wrote: > You Passed! > > --- On *Sat, 1/15/11, yappyfox at thefoxden.com *wrote: > > > From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com > Subject: FL: test > To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org > Date: Saturday, January 15, 2011, 9:18 PM > > > Just a test.. > > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jeffj at panix.com Wed Jan 19 17:04:00 2011 From: jeffj at panix.com (Jeff Jonas) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:04:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 56, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > From: Donkey > Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee > This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. > If this was a true emergency I would not be here wasting my time warning > you. I would be on my own way to safety with out giving you the opportunity > to get in my way to save my own butt. > This concludes our test of the Emergency Broadcast System. > > Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee and my puppet version, very inspired by Fleet Scribbler MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP! This is a test of the emergency Ferret System. This ferret, in voluntary coordination with the FCC and other Federal Agencies, has developed this system to keep you informed in case of an emergency. In case of an /actual/ emergency, I would have RUN AWAY! FLEE! This concludes this test of the emergency Ferret System. Thank you berry much. From sardognsca at yahoo.com Wed Jan 19 17:50:22 2011 From: sardognsca at yahoo.com (sardognsca at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:50:22 +0000 Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 56, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <720574327-1295477460-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1853326629-@bda920.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> And the reason for keeping the list alive was....... -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Jonas Sender: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:04:00 To: Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: Re: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 56, Issue 4 > From: Donkey > Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee > This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. > If this was a true emergency I would not be here wasting my time warning > you. I would be on my own way to safety with out giving you the opportunity > to get in my way to save my own butt. > This concludes our test of the Emergency Broadcast System. > > Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee and my puppet version, very inspired by Fleet Scribbler MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP! This is a test of the emergency Ferret System. This ferret, in voluntary coordination with the FCC and other Federal Agencies, has developed this system to keep you informed in case of an emergency. In case of an /actual/ emergency, I would have RUN AWAY! FLEE! This concludes this test of the emergency Ferret System. Thank you berry much. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list From donkeyears at gmail.com Wed Jan 19 20:46:14 2011 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:46:14 -0600 Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 56, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: <720574327-1295477460-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1853326629-@bda920.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <720574327-1295477460-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1853326629-@bda920.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:50 PM, wrote: > And the reason for keeping the list alive was....... > For the people that have no desire to have to deal with other forms forums. The people that see this message board as old technology and not useful are welcome to remove them self's from the mailing list. His Most Royal Highass, Donkey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From orwin at shaw.ca Thu Jan 20 02:38:10 2011 From: orwin at shaw.ca (Orwin) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 23:38:10 -0800 Subject: FL: Anybody planning to go to Califur? In-Reply-To: References: <720574327-1295477460-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1853326629-@bda920.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <001b01cbb874$fcb10d90$f61328b0$@ca> I know this is a bit early in the year to be thinking about summertime, but was curious how many of you (if any) were thinking about going to Califur? I've never been to this one before, and I'm wondering what it is like. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donkeyears at gmail.com Thu Jan 20 07:45:32 2011 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 06:45:32 -0600 Subject: FL: Anybody planning to go to Califur? In-Reply-To: <001b01cbb874$fcb10d90$f61328b0$@ca> References: <720574327-1295477460-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1853326629-@bda920.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <001b01cbb874$fcb10d90$f61328b0$@ca> Message-ID: If you're not traveling all that far its a OK con. Like most smaller cons its better for people that live in the area that are going to hang out with ones friends than going for the programing that the con is running. The programing highlights of califur are the ice cream social, the slave auction, and the Cabaret. That may have changed I have not gone for years. The down side of califur are that things start late quite often and not always because of technical issues but because of staff drama. If you live in the southwest and can drive to califur you might just want to go to see what its like. If you would need to fly in you might just want to give it some more thought. If you would have to come into the USA I would highly suggest going to FC or AC instead. On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Orwin wrote: > I know this is a bit early in the year to be thinking about summertime, but > was curious how many of you (if any) were thinking about going to Califur? > I?ve never been to this one before, and I?m wondering what it is like. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlely at juno.com Wed Feb 2 00:57:36 2011 From: dlely at juno.com (David L. Ely) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:57:36 -0800 Subject: FL: Fursuiting at parks/landmarks? Message-ID: <20110202.013939.2512.1.dlely@juno.com> On Sunday 9 January 2011 Skippy Fox writes: I want to see how many pictures I could get in fursuit in front of various famous parks or landmarks, e.g. the Statue of Liberty, Grand Canyon, Mount Rushmore, etc. ...Or if it is worth trying. Has anybody fursuited at places like these in the U.S. or elsewhere? Was it a partial or full suit? I?m looking for tips on places that are not difficult to suit up at, or particularly where I will not find myself attempting to outrun teams of burly security officers. :) For instance, I had attempted to do the Statue of Liberty last weekend, and it turned out I hadn?t done enough research first: Large bags are not allowed, and you must pass through airport style security before boarding the ferries, making this photo difficult or impossible to get (at least with a full suit). (http://www.nps.gov/stli/planyourvisit/things2know.htm ) Any ideas, suggestions? Thanks! --skippyfox Skippy: I've fursuited at a few US National Park units including Grand Canyon National Park In all cases I knew the Park well - that is, I knew the layout of everything, the roads, parking lots, busy and popular spots, busy and popular times, private concessionaire facilities, and government facilities. I then took all of that and decided whether or not it would be a safe and prudent idea to fursuit in a specific area. I have never fursuited, nor would I recommend ever fursuiting, in a concessionaire facility like a gift shop or a government facility like a Visitor Center. Instead I prefer the outdoors where I knew I would not disturb folks working and conducting business. Besides fursuiting in the outdoors allows for some pretty awesome photos! In addition I always fursuited with an escort and would dress in a hotel room or my own home if I lived there. Before leaving we would discuss where exactly we would go, for how long, and what to do if the officials did not want us there. Then the escort would drive me and/or my friend(s) to the predetermined spot and have our fun. In all of the National Parks I've fursuited so far I've never run into any trouble and in fact was met with smiles, open arms, and flashes of camera lights - and that included Park Rangers! In the case of your example of the Statue of Liberty, I can understand the heightened security you found since this is a well known and popular American symbol visited by thousands of tourists every day. In the future I would be hesitant about fursuiting at a National Park location that is a shrine, an icon, a memorial, a museum, a hall, a mall, a battlefield, an historical site, and the like. If in doubt about what you'll find there check out the Park in question by visiting the individual Park's official web site off of http://www.nps.gov/index.htm. If you need to call an official there to get some straight answers you'll find the phone number(s) listed on the main page. Have fun in your National Parks and add to the continuing list of furs who have done so in fursuit from coast to coast! David L. Ely - AKA: Scruff E. Coyote - dlely at juno.com "Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life." - Confucius ____________________________________________________________ When Banks Compete, You Win! Refi & lower payments today: $400,000 for only $1,687/mo. No SSN required. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d49268e6c7406601m05vuc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skippy at sk1p.com Wed Feb 2 09:57:29 2011 From: skippy at sk1p.com (Zack F) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 09:57:29 -0500 Subject: FL: Fursuiting at parks/landmarks? In-Reply-To: <20110202.013939.2512.1.dlely@juno.com> References: <20110202.013939.2512.1.dlely@juno.com> Message-ID: <9F6EB2A88C0B4D6287CD24524EA06CF4@fensys.com> Thanks David. This is very helpful! From: David L. Ely Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 12:57 AM To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: Re: FL: Fursuiting at parks/landmarks? On Sunday 9 January 2011 Skippy Fox writes: I want to see how many pictures I could get in fursuit in front of various famous parks or landmarks, e.g. the Statue of Liberty, Grand Canyon, Mount Rushmore, etc. ...Or if it is worth trying. Has anybody fursuited at places like these in the U.S. or elsewhere? Was it a partial or full suit? I?m looking for tips on places that are not difficult to suit up at, or particularly where I will not find myself attempting to outrun teams of burly security officers. :) For instance, I had attempted to do the Statue of Liberty last weekend, and it turned out I hadn?t done enough research first: Large bags are not allowed, and you must pass through airport style security before boarding the ferries, making this photo difficult or impossible to get (at least with a full suit). (http://www.nps.gov/stli/planyourvisit/things2know.htm ) Any ideas, suggestions? Thanks! --skippyfox Skippy: I've fursuited at a few US National Park units including Grand Canyon National Park In all cases I knew the Park well - that is, I knew the layout of everything, the roads, parking lots, busy and popular spots, busy and popular times, private concessionaire facilities, and government facilities. I then took all of that and decided whether or not it would be a safe and prudent idea to fursuit in a specific area. I have never fursuited, nor would I recommend ever fursuiting, in a concessionaire facility like a gift shop or a government facility like a Visitor Center. Instead I prefer the outdoors where I knew I would not disturb folks working and conducting business. Besides fursuiting in the outdoors allows for some pretty awesome photos! In addition I always fursuited with an escort and would dress in a hotel room or my own home if I lived there. Before leaving we would discuss where exactly we would go, for how long, and what to do if the officials did not want us there. Then the escort would drive me and/or my friend(s) to the predetermined spot and have our fun. In all of the National Parks I've fursuited so far I've never run into any trouble and in fact was met with smiles, open arms, and flashes of camera lights - and that included Park Rangers! In the case of your example of the Statue of Liberty, I can understand the heightened security you found since this is a well known and popular American symbol visited by thousands of tourists every day. In the future I would be hesitant about fursuiting at a National Park location that is a shrine, an icon, a memorial, a museum, a hall, a mall, a battlefield, an historical site, and the like. If in doubt about what you'll find there check out the Park in question by visiting the individual Park's official web site off of http://www.nps.gov/index.htm. If you need to call an official there to get some straight answers you'll find the phone number(s) listed on the main page. Have fun in your National Parks and add to the continuing list of furs who have done so in fursuit from coast to coast! David L. Ely - AKA: Scruff E. Coyote - dlely at juno.com "Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life." - Confucius ____________________________________________________________ When Banks Compete, You Win! Refi & lower payments today: $400,000 for only $1,687/mo. No SSN required. QuickMatch.LendingTree.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From RTRabbitNY at aol.com Wed Feb 2 12:35:52 2011 From: RTRabbitNY at aol.com (RTRabbitNY at aol.com) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 12:35:52 EST Subject: FL: Fursuiting at parks/landmarks? Message-ID: <513e.12999489.3a7aeff8@aol.com> This reminds me of about 15 years ago when myself and Thaddeus Fox along with Buster Bear (aka Mascot Matt, back when we were still friends and helping each other out) were in costume and visited the Liberty Bell in Phiadelphia. In costume I could hear one of the National Park Service officers calling up on his radio, "Hello we have several mascots, costume characters here...what's our status?" Nothing came of it, we stayed just long enough to hear the historical speech and then left. With regards to the Statue of Liberty, some years ago I was doing a Scooby Doo appearance in Battery Park adjacent to the ferry landing and got shooed away from the line of tourists waiting to board the boat. As New York City's first and longest-running (since 1986) fursuiter, I pretty much have a good idea of where suiting would be relatively safe in my hometown (so ask me first!), and I avoid any places that may have security issues or restrictions, and approach private property (like Rockefeller Center) with caution. That number of places has been sort of in a perennial state of flux since 9/11 plus also changes in view of surrounding times, events or other circumstances. Amazingly enough though, in suit I still get on subways, regional buses and trains (but not Amtrak--anymore) though I don't do that nearly as much as most folks think I do, and only on certain routes. It's a real shame that real (i.e. celebrity) costume character performing in New York City is essentially a privalege as opposed to a right, restricted to those that have showbiz or corporate connections, and on the other end of the spectrum, Times Square and Midtown in recent years has mimicked Hollywood in attracting rogue costume-wearing folks who only seek to hustle tourists for tips instead of entertaining. A really good public event to fursuit at is the one that I've been doing the longest...the annual Easter Parade on 5th Avenue. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dia at critter.net Thu Feb 3 01:46:30 2011 From: dia at critter.net (dia) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 22:46:30 -0800 Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 57, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OH hell yeah! I know lots of people who have done this around the world! I myself have done it in Times Square in NYC! http://dia.critter.net/gallery/main.php/v/nyc2006/Dia-NYC2006-225.jpg.html http://dia.critter.net/gallery/main.php/v/nyc2006/Dia-NYC2006-182.jpg.html and on the same trip, Central Park http://dia.critter.net/gallery/main.php/v/nyc2006/Dia-NYC2006-082.jpg.html http://dia.critter.net/gallery/main.php/v/nyc2006/Dia-NYC2006-076.jpg.html It was totally awesome. -J > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:57:36 -0800 > From: "David L. Ely" > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > Subject: Re: FL: Fursuiting at parks/landmarks? > > On Sunday 9 January 2011 Skippy Fox writes: > I want to see how many pictures I could get in fursuit in front of > various famous parks or landmarks, e.g. the Statue of Liberty, Grand > Canyon, Mount Rushmore, etc. ...Or if it is worth trying. > > Has anybody fursuited at places like these in the U.S. or elsewhere? > Was > it a partial or full suit? I?m looking for tips on places that are > not > difficult to suit up at, or particularly where I will not find myself > attempting to outrun teams of burly security officers. :) > > For instance, I had attempted to do the Statue of Liberty last > weekend, > and it turned out I hadn?t done enough research first: Large bags are > not > allowed, and you must pass through airport style security before > boarding > the ferries, making this photo difficult or impossible to get (at > least > with a full suit). > (http://www.nps.gov/stli/planyourvisit/things2know.htm > ) > > Any ideas, suggestions? Thanks! > > --skippyfox From skippy at sk1p.com Fri Feb 4 08:58:10 2011 From: skippy at sk1p.com (Zack F) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:58:10 -0500 Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 57, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6E7CA86D98334400B0EE1302F1F117F6@fensys.com> That's pretty awesome! I fursuited in Times Square last month. Tried to do Central Park, but 20" of snow was just dumped on it so it was unpleasant enough to explore, let alone get in fursuit. :) I'll try again in warmer months perhaps. Would be neat to get a photo with the Balto statue. --skippy -----Original Message----- From: dia Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:46 AM To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: Re: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 57, Issue 1 OH hell yeah! I know lots of people who have done this around the world! I myself have done it in Times Square in NYC! http://dia.critter.net/gallery/main.php/v/nyc2006/Dia-NYC2006-225.jpg.html http://dia.critter.net/gallery/main.php/v/nyc2006/Dia-NYC2006-182.jpg.html and on the same trip, Central Park http://dia.critter.net/gallery/main.php/v/nyc2006/Dia-NYC2006-082.jpg.html http://dia.critter.net/gallery/main.php/v/nyc2006/Dia-NYC2006-076.jpg.html It was totally awesome. -J > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:57:36 -0800 > From: "David L. Ely" > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > Subject: Re: FL: Fursuiting at parks/landmarks? > > On Sunday 9 January 2011 Skippy Fox writes: > I want to see how many pictures I could get in fursuit in front of > various famous parks or landmarks, e.g. the Statue of Liberty, Grand > Canyon, Mount Rushmore, etc. ...Or if it is worth trying. > > Has anybody fursuited at places like these in the U.S. or elsewhere? Was > it a partial or full suit? I?m looking for tips on places that are not > difficult to suit up at, or particularly where I will not find myself > attempting to outrun teams of burly security officers. :) > > For instance, I had attempted to do the Statue of Liberty last weekend, > and it turned out I hadn?t done enough research first: Large bags are not > allowed, and you must pass through airport style security before boarding > the ferries, making this photo difficult or impossible to get (at least > with a full suit). (http://www.nps.gov/stli/planyourvisit/things2know.htm > ) > > Any ideas, suggestions? Thanks! > > --skippyfox _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list From donkeyears at gmail.com Fri Feb 4 09:46:35 2011 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:46:35 -0600 Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 57, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: <6E7CA86D98334400B0EE1302F1F117F6@fensys.com> References: <6E7CA86D98334400B0EE1302F1F117F6@fensys.com> Message-ID: So... being in a warm fursuit when its cold out side is a bad thing... *The ass is confused* On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Zack F wrote: > That's pretty awesome! I fursuited in Times Square last month. > > Tried to do Central Park, but 20" of snow was just dumped on it so it was > unpleasant enough to explore, let alone get in fursuit. :) I'll try again in > warmer months perhaps. Would be neat to get a photo with the Balto statue. > > --skippy > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skippy at sk1p.com Fri Feb 4 11:06:55 2011 From: skippy at sk1p.com (Zack F) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:06:55 -0500 Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 57, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: References: <6E7CA86D98334400B0EE1302F1F117F6@fensys.com> Message-ID: <5BD0727E99EB470D9FB7B01525273915@fensys.com> Well, it?s the trudging through freezing slush and mud until your fursuit paws, socks, and tailtip are soaked through in icy yuck! What do you think this is, a walk in the park? ...Oh wait... *grins* --skippy From: Donkey Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 9:46 AM To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: Re: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 57, Issue 1 So... being in a warm fursuit when its cold out side is a bad thing... *The ass is confused* On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Zack F wrote: That's pretty awesome! I fursuited in Times Square last month. Tried to do Central Park, but 20" of snow was just dumped on it so it was unpleasant enough to explore, let alone get in fursuit. :) I'll try again in warmer months perhaps. Would be neat to get a photo with the Balto statue. --skippy -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dia at critter.net Fri Feb 4 13:47:54 2011 From: dia at critter.net (dia) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 10:47:54 -0800 Subject: FL: =?utf-8?q?Fursuiting_at_parks/landmarks=3F?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17f0ac77d64e5a84f4e2128547147319@secure.critter.net> The funny thing is? It was in the 100's when I was Central Park, and eventhough it was night time at Times Square, it was still high 80's. DON'T suit in NYC in JULY!! Durrr!! -J > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:58:10 -0500 > From: "Zack F" > To: > Subject: Re: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 57, Issue 1 > Message-ID: <6E7CA86D98334400B0EE1302F1F117F6 at fensys.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > That's pretty awesome! I fursuited in Times Square last month. > > Tried to do Central Park, but 20" of snow was just dumped on it so it > was > unpleasant enough to explore, let alone get in fursuit. :) I'll try > again in > warmer months perhaps. Would be neat to get a photo with the Balto > statue. > > --skippy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dia > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:46 AM > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > Subject: Re: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 57, Issue 1 > > OH hell yeah! I know lots of people who have done this around the > world! > > I myself have done it in Times Square in NYC! > > http://dia.critter.net/gallery/main.php/v/nyc2006/Dia-NYC2006-225.jpg.html > > http://dia.critter.net/gallery/main.php/v/nyc2006/Dia-NYC2006-182.jpg.html > > and on the same trip, Central Park > > http://dia.critter.net/gallery/main.php/v/nyc2006/Dia-NYC2006-082.jpg.html > > http://dia.critter.net/gallery/main.php/v/nyc2006/Dia-NYC2006-076.jpg.html > > It was totally awesome. > -J From donkeyears at gmail.com Sat Feb 5 22:57:38 2011 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 21:57:38 -0600 Subject: FL: fursuit commission Message-ID: I am looking for a fursuit head to be built that I am not up to doing my self. If someone knows of someone that can make what I am looking for please have them contact me of give me there contact info. What I am looking for is, I want a pig head that is skin tight aka no bulk other than the snout that is not absolutely needed. I want it as realistic as possible. My eyes are the suits eyes. I must be able to eat with little difficultly wail wearing it. None of my current heads I can eat wail I am wearing them. the idea for this head is when I am at a furry convention and want to go out to eat to a restraint I will not have to go with out wearing a fursuit. Donkey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aucune at gmail.com Sun Feb 6 00:11:52 2011 From: aucune at gmail.com (Benoit Houle) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 05:11:52 +0000 Subject: FL: fursuit commission In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <146139489-1296969111-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2072184497-@bda139.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Ever seen the great work at www.rubberdawg.com ? Benoit Houle (via Talmak's Crackberry ) [aucune at gmail.com] -----Original Message----- From: Donkey Sender: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 21:57:38 To: Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: FL: fursuit commission _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list From donkeyears at gmail.com Sun Feb 6 05:14:09 2011 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 04:14:09 -0600 Subject: FL: fursuit commission In-Reply-To: <146139489-1296969111-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2072184497-@bda139.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <146139489-1296969111-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2072184497-@bda139.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: I am quite aware of rubberdog that is not what I am looking for. I don't want something that is made out of rubber well at least looks like its rubber. I would consider leather if the stitches could not bee seen. I dont want the saw pig or a BDSM look. On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Benoit Houle wrote: > Ever seen the great work at www.rubberdawg.com ? > Benoit Houle (via Talmak's Crackberry ) > [aucune at gmail.com] > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bdbfox at outgun.com Mon Feb 21 08:41:23 2011 From: bdbfox at outgun.com (bdbfox at outgun.com) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 08:41:23 -0500 Subject: FL: fursuit commission In-Reply-To: References: <146139489-1296969111-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2072184497-@bda139.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <8CD9FE42A42BB6E-1BB8-3D5C@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com> Maybe this is what you're looking for? http://compositeeffects.com/blog/product-catalog/silicone-masks/pervis-mask/ -Damian Burying sandcastles in the sand. Then digging them up again. -----Original Message----- From: Donkey To: aucune at gmail.com; fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Sent: Sun, Feb 6, 2011 5:14 am Subject: Re: FL: fursuit commission I am quite aware of rubberdog that is not what I am looking for. I don't want something that is made out of rubber well at least looks like its rubber. I would consider leather if the stitches could not bee seen. I dont want the saw pig or a BDSM look. On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Benoit Houle wrote: Ever seen the great work at www.rubberdawg.com ? Benoit Houle (via Talmak's Crackberry ) [aucune at gmail.com] _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donkeyears at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 10:30:31 2011 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:30:31 -0600 Subject: FL: fursuit commission In-Reply-To: <8CD9FE42A42BB6E-1BB8-3D5C@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com> References: <146139489-1296969111-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2072184497-@bda139.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <8CD9FE42A42BB6E-1BB8-3D5C@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I have never seen that before. It looks good but I don't want anything made out of latex. I want something that will not fall apart in a matter of years and that's what latex does even if you keep it out of UV. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Donkey On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 7:41 AM, wrote: > Maybe this is what you're looking for? > > http://compositeeffects.com/blog/product-catalog/silicone-masks/pervis-mask/ > -Damian > > Burying sandcastles in the sand. > Then digging them up again. From fuzzyroo at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 11:33:43 2011 From: fuzzyroo at gmail.com (Lucus Rocket) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:33:43 -0600 Subject: FL: fursuit commission In-Reply-To: References: <146139489-1296969111-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2072184497-@bda139.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <8CD9FE42A42BB6E-1BB8-3D5C@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Not sure you can get a "no bulk no snout" realistic pig muzzle in cloth. There will be some bulk to it due to the foam or what ever is used to maintain it's shape. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Donkey wrote: > I have never seen that before. It looks good but I don't want anything > made out of latex. I want something that will not fall apart in a > matter of years and that's what latex does even if you keep it out of > UV. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. > > Donkey > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 7:41 AM, wrote: > > Maybe this is what you're looking for? > > > > > http://compositeeffects.com/blog/product-catalog/silicone-masks/pervis-mask/ > > -Damian > > > > Burying sandcastles in the sand. > > Then digging them up again. > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donkeyears at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 11:44:43 2011 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:44:43 -0600 Subject: FL: fursuit commission In-Reply-To: References: <146139489-1296969111-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2072184497-@bda139.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <8CD9FE42A42BB6E-1BB8-3D5C@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I expect there to be bulk for the snout. I just don't want any foam or anything else other places than the snout. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Lucus Rocket wrote: > Not sure you can get a "no bulk no snout" realistic pig muzzle in cloth. > ?There will be some bulk to it due to the foam or what ever is used to > maintain it's shape. > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Donkey wrote: >> >> I have never seen that before. It looks good but I don't want anything >> made out of latex. I want something that will not fall apart in a >> matter of years and that's what latex does even if you keep it out of >> UV. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. >> >> Donkey >> >> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 7:41 AM, ? wrote: >> > Maybe this is what you're looking for? >> > >> > >> > http://compositeeffects.com/blog/product-catalog/silicone-masks/pervis-mask/ >> > -Damian >> > >> > Burying sandcastles in the sand. >> > Then digging them up again. >> _______________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> Fursuit Mail list. >> To edit your subscription, visit: >> http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list > > From bdbfox at outgun.com Mon Feb 21 11:57:13 2011 From: bdbfox at outgun.com (bdbfox at outgun.com) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:57:13 -0500 Subject: FL: fursuit commission In-Reply-To: References: <146139489-1296969111-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2072184497-@bda139.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><8CD9FE42A42BB6E-1BB8-3D5C@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CD9FFF8547C188-D50-5D44@web-mmc-m06.sysops.aol.com> I know, I know. Actually that Composite Effects one is silicone, thus the high price. That's why I sent you the link. Silicone is much more durable than latex since it contains no organic components which could rot. It also doesn't "dry up" like latex, it's more flexible and resistant to temperature changes and U.V. exposure. Silicone does not decay when exposed to certain oils like latex could, which means you can eat greasy food in it and not have to worry. -Damian Burying sandcastles in the sand. Then digging them up again. -----Original Message----- From: Donkey To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Sent: Mon, Feb 21, 2011 10:30 am Subject: Re: FL: fursuit commission I have never seen that before. It looks good but I don't want anything made out of latex. I want something that will not fall apart in a matter of years and that's what latex does even if you keep it out of UV. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Donkey On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 7:41 AM, wrote: > Maybe this is what you're looking for? > > http://compositeeffects.com/blog/product-catalog/silicone-masks/pervis-mask/ > -Damian > > Burying sandcastles in the sand. > Then digging them up again. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Yappyfox at thefoxden.com Tue Mar 1 16:03:51 2011 From: Yappyfox at thefoxden.com (Yappyfox at thefoxden.com) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 16:03:51 -0500 Subject: FL: Big changes.. Message-ID: <20110301210351.GA25090@yappy.furryhost.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Big changes are coming. I am going to seal and time capsule the 15 year old FAQ and lock it from any future editing. It seems that it has grown stagnant and outdated. With that, I have started a full overhaul of the Fursuit.org website. Some additions and changes: User profiles: I have created profile fields such as journal and blog entries, birthdays, websites and other personal stuffs. The big one I have added is a "Professional" entry, that will let you builders state that you do commisions. This will come into play, where there is a link to "Builders" which will list off all the builders, and if they are open for business and such. If there are other profile feilds you wish to see, let me know.. I intend to keep expanding this, and it is quite easily done. You will be able to manage your mail list subscription, right from the web site. No more having to email the mail server. Links to other popular fursuit related websites and journals. Classified Ads! You can post up links to auctions or direct sales of fursuits/parts There is a project being developed, by the people who run Wikifur.. to create a fursuit wiki once again, but using fresh data, and using the interface that people are already familiar with. The ability to add other maintainers and moderators.. to expand options. What will happen next... each one of you subscribed to the mail list will get an email probably tonight, with a link to the new site. With this link you will be able to create a password on the new site, and then edit all your personal profile information. If there are options you wish to see, I have added a forum to allow you to ask for features you wish to see! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk1tXzcACgkQb994uiTxd4VNOACeNiw3OR1ZqzkVSRPqB+pcCn80 EX4AnivsSVdvvZIc0N1BlMNhJ5V2lVk9 =J2Wc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From camerapup at charter.net Tue Mar 1 23:02:12 2011 From: camerapup at charter.net (Camerapup) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:02:12 -0800 Subject: FL: Big changes.. References: <20110301210351.GA25090@yappy.furryhost.com> Message-ID: <4D2381CDC2B942BBA9C4E8D65929E8F7@Yoda> wow love all the new changes to the site nice work Yappy. Only downside is it doesnt show the true time i've been a member of the list hehe ;) Camerapup From chris.hexx at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 12:09:33 2011 From: chris.hexx at gmail.com (chris.hexx at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:09:33 +0000 Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 58, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8337730-1299085773-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1588271272-@bda465.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Y Sent from my BlackBerry device from Cincinnati Bell Wireless -----Original Message----- From: fursuit-list-request at lists.fursuit.org Sender: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 12:00:02 To: Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 58, Issue 1 Send Fursuit-list mailing list submissions to fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fursuit-list-request at lists.fursuit.org You can reach the person managing the list at fursuit-list-owner at lists.fursuit.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Fursuit-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Big changes.. (Yappyfox at thefoxden.com) 2. Re: Big changes.. (Camerapup) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 16:03:51 -0500 From: Yappyfox at thefoxden.com To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org Subject: FL: Big changes.. Message-ID: <20110301210351.GA25090 at yappy.furryhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Big changes are coming. I am going to seal and time capsule the 15 year old FAQ and lock it from any future editing. It seems that it has grown stagnant and outdated. With that, I have started a full overhaul of the Fursuit.org website. Some additions and changes: User profiles: I have created profile fields such as journal and blog entries, birthdays, websites and other personal stuffs. The big one I have added is a "Professional" entry, that will let you builders state that you do commisions. This will come into play, where there is a link to "Builders" which will list off all the builders, and if they are open for business and such. If there are other profile feilds you wish to see, let me know.. I intend to keep expanding this, and it is quite easily done. You will be able to manage your mail list subscription, right from the web site. No more having to email the mail server. Links to other popular fursuit related websites and journals. Classified Ads! You can post up links to auctions or direct sales of fursuits/parts There is a project being developed, by the people who run Wikifur.. to create a fursuit wiki once again, but using fresh data, and using the interface that people are already familiar with. The ability to add other maintainers and moderators.. to expand options. What will happen next... each one of you subscribed to the mail list will get an email probably tonight, with a link to the new site. With this link you will be able to create a password on the new site, and then edit all your personal profile information. If there are options you wish to see, I have added a forum to allow you to ask for features you wish to see! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk1tXzcACgkQb994uiTxd4VNOACeNiw3OR1ZqzkVSRPqB+pcCn80 EX4AnivsSVdvvZIc0N1BlMNhJ5V2lVk9 =J2Wc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:02:12 -0800 From: "Camerapup" To: Subject: Re: FL: Big changes.. Message-ID: <4D2381CDC2B942BBA9C4E8D65929E8F7 at Yoda> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original wow love all the new changes to the site nice work Yappy. Only downside is it doesnt show the true time i've been a member of the list hehe ;) Camerapup ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Fursuit-list mailing list Fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org http://lists.fursuit.org/mailman/listinfo/fursuit-list End of Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 58, Issue 1 ******************************************* From dia at critter.net Wed Mar 2 19:10:41 2011 From: dia at critter.net (dia) Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:10:41 -0800 Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 58, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6386920272e5259b5574b044ecf5e76b@secure.critter.net> hey Yappy, can I beg ONE thing? PLEASE don't have THREE MOVING BANNERS at the top of each page! That's HIGHLY annoying. One that changes every 30 seconds or something would be better. Other than that, its looking nice. -J > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 16:03:51 -0500 > From: Yappyfox at thefoxden.com > To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org > Subject: FL: Big changes.. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Big changes are coming. I am going to seal and time capsule the 15 > year old FAQ and lock it from any future editing. > > It seems that it has grown stagnant and outdated. > > With that, I have started a full overhaul of the Fursuit.org website. From yappyfox at thefoxden.com Wed Mar 2 19:13:11 2011 From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (Yappy Sly Fox) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:13:11 -0500 Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 58, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: <6386920272e5259b5574b044ecf5e76b@secure.critter.net> References: <6386920272e5259b5574b044ecf5e76b@secure.critter.net> Message-ID: <20110303001311.GA12425@yappy.furryhost.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 yeah I was just formatting the layout, and just leaving space for 3 ads, but since there are no builder ads yet, I'll keep it down to 1 for now.. If there is a higher count, I'll add more.. and yes they will be set for 30sec. On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 04:10:41PM -0800, dia wrote: > hey Yappy, can I beg ONE thing? > > PLEASE don't have THREE MOVING BANNERS at the top of each page! > That's HIGHLY annoying. > One that changes every 30 seconds or something would be better. > > Other than that, its looking nice. > -J > > > >Message: 1 > >Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 16:03:51 -0500 > >From: Yappyfox at thefoxden.com > >To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org > >Subject: FL: Big changes.. > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >Big changes are coming. I am going to seal and time capsule the 15 > >year old FAQ and lock it from any future editing. > > > >It seems that it has grown stagnant and outdated. > > > >With that, I have started a full overhaul of the Fursuit.org website. > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk1u3RcACgkQb994uiTxd4XbCwCgmxdchK1FYZau2pgus6EkkM6S SPsAnRaU56q07+eWX69TEw/rMj4alwQh =iwcB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From donkeyears at gmail.com Sat Apr 2 10:12:34 2011 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 09:12:34 -0500 Subject: FL: fursuit from ages ago Message-ID: I saw Abbott and Costello Meets Dr Heckyll and Mr Hyde. Costello is put into a really great mouse partial fursuit for the era. I would say its nice looking even for what people are making today. The only thing that I have bad to say about it was that they did not glue down the area around his eyes, you can see the gap. Donkey From bdbfox at outgun.com Sat Apr 2 11:28:45 2011 From: bdbfox at outgun.com (bdbfox at outgun.com) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:28:45 -0400 Subject: FL: fursuit from ages ago In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CDBF61C9F40354-1A6C-16EE@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com> I've always been fond of this silent film era pig suit from "Le cochon danseur". It has some very impressive gimmicks and a good overall design, even if it's a bit disturbing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2tP9s8y2Ic -Damian Burying sandcastles in the sand. Then digging them up again. -----Original Message----- From: Donkey To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2011 10:12 am Subject: FL: fursuit from ages ago I saw Abbott and Costello Meets Dr Heckyll and Mr Hyde. Costello is put into a really great mouse partial fursuit for the era. I would say its nice looking even for what people are making today. The only thing that I have bad to say about it was that they did not glue down the area around his eyes, you can see the gap. Donkey _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kameoelemental at gmail.com Sat Apr 2 15:34:17 2011 From: kameoelemental at gmail.com (Ashlee Bruton) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 12:34:17 -0700 Subject: FL: fursuit from ages ago In-Reply-To: <8CDBF61C9F40354-1A6C-16EE@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CDBF61C9F40354-1A6C-16EE@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: To be truthfull i am not experienced yet enough to make a suit such as this but i can recommend BeastCub who is an awsome fursuiter. Here is her site. www.beastcub.com. If you have any questions please feel free to email. KameoElemental ElementalFursuits On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 8:28 AM, wrote: > I've always been fond of this silent film era pig suit from "Le cochon > danseur". > > It has some very impressive gimmicks and a good overall design, even if > it's a bit disturbing. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2tP9s8y2Ic > > > -Damian > > Burying sandcastles in the sand. > Then digging them up again. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donkey > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2011 10:12 am > Subject: FL: fursuit from ages ago > > I saw Abbott and Costello Meets Dr Heckyll and Mr Hyde. Costello is > > > put into a really great mouse partial fursuit for the era. I would say > > > its nice looking even for what people are making today. 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URL: From skippy at sk1p.com Sat Apr 2 15:22:29 2011 From: skippy at sk1p.com (Zack F) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 15:22:29 -0400 Subject: FL: fursuit from ages ago In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I found the movie online if anyone's interested. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L5pDRVNpNc The transformation starts about 49 minutes in. -----Original Message----- From: Donkey Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 10:12 AM To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: FL: fursuit from ages ago I saw Abbott and Costello Meets Dr Heckyll and Mr Hyde. Costello is put into a really great mouse partial fursuit for the era. I would say its nice looking even for what people are making today. The only thing that I have bad to say about it was that they did not glue down the area around his eyes, you can see the gap. Donkey _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register From anthrobunny at gmail.com Sat Apr 2 15:57:20 2011 From: anthrobunny at gmail.com (Blackberry) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 12:57:20 -0700 Subject: FL: fursuit from ages ago In-Reply-To: References: <8CDBF61C9F40354-1A6C-16EE@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Ashlee Bruton wrote: > To be truthfull i am not experienced yet enough to make a suit such as this > but i can recommend BeastCub who is an awsome fursuiter. Here is her site. > www.beastcub.com. If you have any questions please feel free to email. > KameoElemental > ElementalFursuits I didn't know anything when I made my first suit. I just did some research online first (and this was in 1996 when it wasn't as easy). I taught myself how to sew and did the whole suit by hand for $100 in materials. I highly recommend it. -- "I guess I like board games more than most people. And by that I mean I like playing board games more than most people do, and I like board games more than I like most people." - Strong Sad, homestarrunner.com From fadfrankie at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 12:52:27 2011 From: fadfrankie at gmail.com (FRANKIE BAILEY) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 12:52:27 -0400 Subject: FL: fursuit from ages ago In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Donkey wrote: > I saw Abbott and Costello Meets Dr Heckyll and Mr Hyde. Costello is > put into a really great mouse partial fursuit for the era. I would say > its nice looking even for what people are making today. The only thing > that I have bad to say about it was that they did not glue down the > area around his eyes, you can see the gap. > > Donkey > _____________________________________________ _ hmmm! cool! > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donkeyears at gmail.com Sat Apr 23 22:14:52 2011 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 21:14:52 -0500 Subject: FL: goat costumes Message-ID: >From a great many years ago someone posted a link here to some Japanese show of Heidi that had four legged goat costumes that danced around. I was wondering if anyone remembers where that was if it still is around. From bdbfox at outgun.com Sun Apr 24 12:10:39 2011 From: bdbfox at outgun.com (bdbfox at outgun.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 12:10:39 -0400 Subject: FL: goat costumes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CDD0B149E03690-17D4-1E75@web-mmc-m01.sysops.aol.com> I remember I had it on my old computer. I could not find it on my current one. Good thing I back up my files regularly. I found it on a ZIP disk from 2004 and uploaded it for you (and any other fursuiters who want to see it). http://www.weaponofcreation.com/files/hiedi11.MPG -Damian Burying sandcastles in the sand. Then digging them up again. -----Original Message----- From: Donkey To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Sent: Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:14 pm Subject: FL: goat costumes >From a great many years ago someone posted a link here to some Japanese show of Heidi that had four legged goat costumes that danced around. 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I found it on a ZIP disk from 2004 > and uploaded it for you (and any other fursuiters who want to see it). > > http://www.weaponofcreation.com/files/hiedi11.MPG > > -Damian > > Burying sandcastles in the sand. > Then digging them up again. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donkey > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > Sent: Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:14 pm > Subject: FL: goat costumes > > From a great many years ago someone posted a link here to some > > > Japanese show of Heidi that had four legged goat costumes that danced > > > around. 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URL: From camerapup at charter.net Sun Apr 24 22:53:17 2011 From: camerapup at charter.net (Camerapup) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 19:53:17 -0700 Subject: FL: goat costumes References: <8CDD0B149E03690-17D4-1E75@web-mmc-m01.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <64EC1ED6B06A487D8EC733D1699301A0@Yoda> ya i as well had it and was going to upload it for donkey as well think my copy is actually longer? that and i have several still images i can post as well will prolly not get to it till prolly sometime on monday s stay tuned. Camerapup the tired Easter Bunny ----- Original Message ----- From: bdbfox at outgun.com To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 9:10 AM Subject: Re: FL: goat costumes I remember I had it on my old computer. I could not find it on my current one. Good thing I back up my files regularly. I found it on a ZIP disk from 2004 and uploaded it for you (and any other fursuiters who want to see it). http://www.weaponofcreation.com/files/hiedi11.MPG -Damian Burying sandcastles in the sand. Then digging them up again. -----Original Message----- From: Donkey To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Sent: Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:14 pm Subject: FL: goat costumes >From a great many years ago someone posted a link here to some Japanese show of Heidi that had four legged goat costumes that danced around. I was wondering if anyone remembers where that was if it still is around. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3593 - Release Date: 04/23/11 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kattywampus at gmail.com Mon Apr 25 02:09:42 2011 From: kattywampus at gmail.com (Kattywampus) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 23:09:42 -0700 Subject: FL: goat costumes In-Reply-To: <64EC1ED6B06A487D8EC733D1699301A0@Yoda> References: <8CDD0B149E03690-17D4-1E75@web-mmc-m01.sysops.aol.com> <64EC1ED6B06A487D8EC733D1699301A0@Yoda> Message-ID: I am also a very tired Easter Bunny. I'm surprised I made it out alive! --Cuddly Battleship Kattywampus On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Camerapup wrote: > ya i as well had it and was going to upload it for donkey as well think my > copy is actually longer? that and i have several still images i can post as > well will prolly not get to it till prolly sometime on monday s stay tuned. > > Camerapup the tired Easter Bunny From tim1 at timduru.org Mon Apr 25 07:40:34 2011 From: tim1 at timduru.org (tim1 at timduru.org) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 07:40:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FL: goat costumes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://fursuit.timduru.org/view/FursuitVideo/Movies_Series_Shows/HiedeInTheAlpus On Sat, 23 Apr 2011, Donkey wrote: >> From a great many years ago someone posted a link here to some > Japanese show of Heidi that had four legged goat costumes that danced > around. I was wondering if anyone remembers where that was if it still > is around. > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > From foxwolfac at gmail.com Mon Apr 25 11:05:42 2011 From: foxwolfac at gmail.com (Foxwolf 9-Tails) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 11:05:42 -0400 Subject: FL: goat costumes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This thread is the first time I have ever seen this, or even heard of it for that matter. Then again, I did grow up a very sheltered suburban USA white boy. Thankfully I'm not anywhere near as sheltered now-a-days but I'm still just as white. :-P Thank you for sharing this, as I do like to learn about new things. -Foxwolf 9-Tails On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:40 AM, wrote: > > > http://fursuit.timduru.org/view/FursuitVideo/Movies_Series_Shows/HiedeInTheAlpus > > > > On Sat, 23 Apr 2011, Donkey wrote: > > From a great many years ago someone posted a link here to some >>> >> Japanese show of Heidi that had four legged goat costumes that danced >> around. I was wondering if anyone remembers where that was if it still >> is around. >> _______________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> Fursuit Mail list. >> To edit your subscription, visit: >> http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register >> >> _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chameleon264 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 18:59:31 2011 From: chameleon264 at yahoo.com (Black Foot) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:59:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: goat costumes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <833533.92646.qm@web65902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> where is what? the goat costume I have no clue but Beast cubs makes good quad suits, but they are very expensive, they start around $12grand+ Proud & Free To Be A Furry Black Foot. ________________________________ From: Foxwolf 9-Tails To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 11:05:42 AM Subject: Re: FL: goat costumes This thread is the first time I have ever seen this, or even heard of it for that matter. Then again, I did grow up a very sheltered suburban USA white boy. Thankfully I'm not anywhere near as sheltered now-a-days but I'm still just as white. :-P Thank you for sharing this, as I do like to learn about new things. -Foxwolf 9-Tails On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:40 AM, wrote: >http://fursuit.timduru.org/view/FursuitVideo/Movies_Series_Shows/HiedeInTheAlpus > > > >On Sat, 23 Apr 2011, Donkey wrote: > > >From a great many years ago someone posted a link here to some >>> Japanese show of Heidi that had four legged goat costumes that danced >around. I was wondering if anyone remembers where that was if it still >is around. >_______________________________________________ >_______________________________________________ >Fursuit Mail list. >To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kattywampus at gmail.com Tue Apr 26 19:19:37 2011 From: kattywampus at gmail.com (Kattywampus) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:19:37 -0700 Subject: FL: goat costumes In-Reply-To: <833533.92646.qm@web65902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <833533.92646.qm@web65902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Beastcub's quadsuits start at $2300. http://www.beastcub.com/pricelist.htm I have no idea where you got that wild number from. Misinformation is bad bad bad to spread around... --CBK On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Black Foot wrote: > where is what? the goat costume I have no clue but Beast cubs makes good > quad suits, but they are very expensive, they start around $12grand+ > Proud & Free To Be A Furry > Black Foot. From chameleon264 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 19:27:41 2011 From: chameleon264 at yahoo.com (Black Foot) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: goat costumes In-Reply-To: References: <833533.92646.qm@web65902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <876298.8701.qm@web65907.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> oh my bad, I thought they started around $1500. Proud & Free To Be A Furry Black Foot. ________________________________ From: Kattywampus To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Sent: Tue, April 26, 2011 7:19:37 PM Subject: Re: FL: goat costumes Beastcub's quadsuits start at $2300. http://www.beastcub.com/pricelist.htm I have no idea where you got that wild number from. Misinformation is bad bad bad to spread around... --CBK On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Black Foot wrote: > where is what? the goat costume I have no clue but Beast cubs makes good > quad suits, but they are very expensive, they start around $12grand+ > Proud & Free To Be A Furry > Black Foot. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kattywampus at gmail.com Tue Apr 26 19:31:59 2011 From: kattywampus at gmail.com (Kattywampus) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:31:59 -0700 Subject: FL: goat costumes In-Reply-To: <876298.8701.qm@web65907.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <833533.92646.qm@web65902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <876298.8701.qm@web65907.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You said "$12grand+" which would mean $12,000 ... On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Black Foot wrote: > oh my bad, I thought they started around $1500. > > Proud & Free To Be A Furry > Black Foot. From chameleon264 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 19:36:12 2011 From: chameleon264 at yahoo.com (Black Foot) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: goat costumes In-Reply-To: References: <833533.92646.qm@web65902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <876298.8701.qm@web65907.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <341189.93138.qm@web65906.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> I just said it wrong, I knew how much but I typed it in and sent it b4 I had a chance to go back and edit it. Proud & Free To Be A Furry Black Foot. ________________________________ From: Kattywampus To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Sent: Tue, April 26, 2011 7:31:59 PM Subject: Re: FL: goat costumes You said "$12grand+" which would mean $12,000 ... On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Black Foot wrote: > oh my bad, I thought they started around $1500. > > Proud & Free To Be A Furry > Black Foot. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kameoelemental at gmail.com Tue Apr 26 22:22:10 2011 From: kameoelemental at gmail.com (Ashlee Bruton) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 19:22:10 -0700 Subject: FL: goat costumes In-Reply-To: <833533.92646.qm@web65902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <833533.92646.qm@web65902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Beastcubs are not that much they start at around two thousand not twelve. On Apr 26, 2011 4:00 PM, "Black Foot" wrote: > where is what? the goat costume I have no clue but Beast cubs makes good quad > suits, but they are very expensive, they start around $12grand+ > > Proud & Free To Be A Furry > Black Foot. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Foxwolf 9-Tails > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 11:05:42 AM > Subject: Re: FL: goat costumes > > This thread is the first time I have ever seen this, or even heard of it for > that matter. Then again, I did grow up a very sheltered suburban USA white boy. > Thankfully I'm not anywhere near as sheltered now-a-days but I'm still just as > white. :-P > > Thank you for sharing this, as I do like to learn about new things. > > -Foxwolf 9-Tails > > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:40 AM, wrote: > > >> http://fursuit.timduru.org/view/FursuitVideo/Movies_Series_Shows/HiedeInTheAlpus > >> >> >> >>On Sat, 23 Apr 2011, Donkey wrote: >> >> >>From a great many years ago someone posted a link here to some >>>> > Japanese show of Heidi that had four legged goat costumes that danced >>around. I was wondering if anyone remembers where that was if it still >>is around. >>_______________________________________________ >>_______________________________________________ >>Fursuit Mail list. >>To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register >> >> > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donkeyears at gmail.com Tue Apr 26 22:23:37 2011 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:23:37 -0500 Subject: FL: goat costumes In-Reply-To: References: <833533.92646.qm@web65902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: One day and I would not expect it to be not that long they will be 100K or more! I see her going to Hollywood or New York's Broadway as soon as someone discovered her. Thats my .02c On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Kattywampus wrote: > Beastcub's quadsuits start at $2300. > http://www.beastcub.com/pricelist.htm > I have no idea where you got that wild number from. Misinformation is > bad bad bad to spread around... > > --CBK > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Black Foot > wrote: > > where is what? the goat costume I have no clue but Beast cubs makes good > > quad suits, but they are very expensive, they start around $12grand+ > > Proud & Free To Be A Furry > > Black Foot. > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kattywampus at gmail.com Tue Apr 26 22:38:53 2011 From: kattywampus at gmail.com (Kattywampus) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 19:38:53 -0700 Subject: FL: goat costumes In-Reply-To: References: <833533.92646.qm@web65902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: She has done stuff for production, actually. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4139979/ I'm really happy for her! --CBK On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Donkey wrote: > One day and I would not expect it to be not that long they will be 100K or > more! I see her going to Hollywood or New York's Broadway as soon as someone > discovered her. > > Thats my .02c From tycho at ws6transam.org Wed Apr 27 22:20:31 2011 From: tycho at ws6transam.org (Tycho Brahe) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:20:31 -0400 Subject: FL: Beastcub costume: Should I or shouldn't I? (Was: Goat costumes) In-Reply-To: References: <833533.92646.qm@web65902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <39776ce6d71a5bcb522f078430f7f437.squirrel@emailmg.startlogic.com> It's probably okay to post this to this group, but I've got a deposit on one of her costumes though it's still pretty iffy if I will go though with it. Tentative construction is planned for late 2011. Right now, I am thinking of just going for it, even as an investment. I too, think her costumes are world-class and will eventually be recognized as the artwork that they are. I am not anywhere close to being a furry; I just fell in love with the concept of performing in fursuit. There's no one in my immediate circle of friends who does anything close to this, so it isn't even on anyone's radar. My wife doesn't want me to spend any money on it, feels like it's a waste of money & time. However I sold my guitars, a pile of motorcycle spare parts, two sets of race tires, plus saved for 18 months, so everything's there and it doesn't impact the family finances at all. There's also no debt in our household to which I need to put this money. I'm putting together a 90-second combined Extreme martial arts / dance routine & want to perform it in fursuit. I've got a choreographer who has agreed (in principle) to assist with helping me with the music & dance portions. I've even joined TaeKwon-Do, lost 25 pounds practicing for this, and will have a 1st degree black belt about the time the suit gets done. I can do 88 pushups, plus handstands & cartwheels for the first time in my life, at age 46. I'm down to my old high school weight and waist size. So just the idea of a suit performance , and preparing for it has already changed my life. I just don't know if actually going through with it will be as rewarding as the actual vision itself. I'm afraid I might look silly and need to ensure that it goes great the first time, because I fear that there won't be a second chance if it bombs. Anyone have any ideas or insight on if this is a good idea or not?? The character name is Tycho and the character is a blue merle Australian shepherd / collie mix. Extensive airbrushing, multiple length piles, blue merle, white, & copper colors, two sets of feet & paws: One set for general suiting, and one for martial arts demos on mats & stage. --- On Tue, April 26, 2011 10:38 pm, Kattywampus wrote: > She has done stuff for production, actually. > http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4139979/ > I'm really happy for her! > > --CBK > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Donkey wrote: >> One day and I would not expect it to be not that long they will be 100K >> or >> more! I see her going to Hollywood or New York's Broadway as soon as >> someone >> discovered her. >> >> Thats my .02c > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > -- Inquisitive by nature, bold and honorable through upbringing, brave by necessity. From kattywampus at gmail.com Wed Apr 27 22:25:08 2011 From: kattywampus at gmail.com (Kattywampus) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:25:08 -0700 Subject: FL: Beastcub costume: Should I or shouldn't I? (Was: Goat costumes) In-Reply-To: <39776ce6d71a5bcb522f078430f7f437.squirrel@emailmg.startlogic.com> References: <833533.92646.qm@web65902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <39776ce6d71a5bcb522f078430f7f437.squirrel@emailmg.startlogic.com> Message-ID: I would do it! This is coming from me as a performer, and not as a furry. (which of course, I joined furry because I enjoy performing as a mascot!) Think of how fun it would be. And what an impressive video you'd make! --Kattywampus From denmoncaus at gmail.com Wed Apr 27 22:30:15 2011 From: denmoncaus at gmail.com (lex f) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:30:15 -0400 Subject: FL: Beastcub costume: Should I or shouldn't I? (Was: Goat costumes) In-Reply-To: References: <833533.92646.qm@web65902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <39776ce6d71a5bcb522f078430f7f437.squirrel@emailmg.startlogic.com> Message-ID: I like the idea of it you have more guts then me .I would like to have a suit to perform for kids party and stuff like that. On Apr 27, 2011 10:25 PM, "Kattywampus" wrote: I would do it! This is coming from me as a performer, and not as a furry. (which of course, I joined furry because I enjoy performing as a mascot!) Think of how fun it would be. 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I too, think her > costumes are world-class and will eventually be recognized as the > artwork that they are. Hey, they had her unicorn on Adult Swim . . . that's some recognition already! ;-) > Anyone have any ideas or insight on if this is a good idea or not?? I think you have a vision, and you should follow through on it. Even if it doesn't work out exactly as you plan, the memories will be priceless. *grin* Besides, it already appears to have had a positive effect. Your wife should be glad - you may have added years to your life through following on your passion. -- Laurence "GreenReaper" Parry http://greenreaper.co.uk - http://wikifur.com - http://flayrah.com "Eternity lies ahead of us, and behind. Have you drunk your fill?" From rmking93 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 28 19:07:49 2011 From: rmking93 at yahoo.com (Mark and Renee King) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: Fursuiting at Morphicon in Columbus, OH Message-ID: <26708.2681.qm@web180301.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Only 2 more weeks until Morphicon (www.morphicon.org)?in Columbus, OH.? Morphicon provides several great opportunities to show off your fursuit, whether it's partial or full, paw-made or purchased.? ? On Friday night, there will be a competitive Masquerade that will be judged by experienced costumers.??If you made your fursuit yourself, you can wear or bring it to Pre-Judging and be eligible for the construction awards.? You can then show off your suit on stage during the Masquerade performance and be eligible for more awards.? If you purchased or borrowed your suit, or just don't want to be judged for construction, you're still eligible for the performance, "Best Use of Con Theme", and "Best in Show"?awards.? All acts should be 2 minutes or less.? If you don't have an act or your own music, we have thousands of songs for you to dance to on stage. ? Then on Saturday afternoon, there will be a fursuit parade through the convention space that will end outside?on the patio with a group picture.? Parts of the route will go outside; however, if it's raining, the route will be shortened to stay inside.? There will be many opportunities along the route for picture-taking. ? We also have a large fursuiting track with a wide variety of topics, such as performing on stage and fursuiting as another gender.? The schedule is online at http://www.morphicon.org/schedule.php. . If you have any questions or would like to help in any way,?please email masquerade at morphicon.org. ? Rev. Marcus Morphicon Masquerade Head -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From tycho at ws6transam.org Fri Jun 24 16:54:50 2011 From: tycho at ws6transam.org (Tycho Brahe) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:54:50 -0400 Subject: FL: motor actuated eyes - any design examples? Message-ID: <63e58a980964defe457382eb5f497c60.squirrel@emailmg.startlogic.com> I am experimenting with PIC microprocessors and I have a full motor control development kit here on my desk. I can use it to control stepper motors and DC motors, plus use MOSFETs for dumping high current loads to other DC actuators as necessary. I'd like to develop a stand-alone, closed-loop dual-channel controller for the actuation of costume eyelids. One of the possibilities is to use some of today's semiconductor non-contact switch designs to monitor the human eye, and when the human eye blinks, to actuate the mechanical eye. Three potentiometers will enable me to easily "tune" the design for blink sensitivity, eyelid attack, and decay, with a result of an eye that blinks as fast as possible with minimal bounce. The actuated eye has been done before. However what I do not know is the mechanics of how it's done; whether or not the lid is spring loaded, on a shaft which is held in single shear or double shear, and whether or not the lid is coupled directly on the motor shaft, or if it's actuated with some form of lever/linkage. Does anyone have pictures or drawings that show the mechanics of how the eye lids are constructed, and where the placement of the motor is inside the mask? I need to get an idea about the volume & dimensions of the motor space, in order to figure out what size & type of motor to go with. Tycho. -- Inquisitive by nature, bold and honorable through upbringing, brave by necessity. From marcwolf at marcwolf.org Fri Jun 24 22:28:04 2011 From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (Marcwolf) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 12:28:04 +1000 Subject: FL: motor actuated eyes - any design examples? In-Reply-To: <63e58a980964defe457382eb5f497c60.squirrel@emailmg.startlogic.com> References: <63e58a980964defe457382eb5f497c60.squirrel@emailmg.startlogic.com> Message-ID: <001a01cc32df$835c1e90$8a145bb0$@org> Interesting idea. Re monitoring the eye blink - try shining a IR led towards the eye and reading the reflectivity. The eyelid would have a far lower reflextivity than the eye surface. Spring loaded lid's are an issue - Firstly the design tends to be fairly complex, and secondly the tuning of the unit is more critical There are several high speed servo's used for ailirons on glider and other small planes that would work well, and you can use the lever principle (small movement one end - large movement the other) to increase the speed. Plus with a servo you can have the eyelids close half way, squint etc. Hope this helps Marcwolf -----Original Message----- From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Tycho Brahe Sent: Saturday, 25 June 2011 6:55 AM To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: FL: motor actuated eyes - any design examples? I am experimenting with PIC microprocessors and I have a full motor control development kit here on my desk. I can use it to control stepper motors and DC motors, plus use MOSFETs for dumping high current loads to other DC actuators as necessary. I'd like to develop a stand-alone, closed-loop dual-channel controller for the actuation of costume eyelids. One of the possibilities is to use some of today's semiconductor non-contact switch designs to monitor the human eye, and when the human eye blinks, to actuate the mechanical eye. Three potentiometers will enable me to easily "tune" the design for blink sensitivity, eyelid attack, and decay, with a result of an eye that blinks as fast as possible with minimal bounce. The actuated eye has been done before. However what I do not know is the mechanics of how it's done; whether or not the lid is spring loaded, on a shaft which is held in single shear or double shear, and whether or not the lid is coupled directly on the motor shaft, or if it's actuated with some form of lever/linkage. Does anyone have pictures or drawings that show the mechanics of how the eye lids are constructed, and where the placement of the motor is inside the mask? I need to get an idea about the volume & dimensions of the motor space, in order to figure out what size & type of motor to go with. Tycho. -- Inquisitive by nature, bold and honorable through upbringing, brave by necessity. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register From dia at critter.net Sat Jun 25 14:42:49 2011 From: dia at critter.net (dia) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 11:42:49 -0700 Subject: FL: =?utf-8?q?motor_actuated_eyes__-_any_design_examples=3F?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8b5db275d765d98c0c6e12d2c75666b0@secure.critter.net> If you post here, I am sure there are people who have done something very similar to what you are asking about: http://fursuit.livejournal.com/profile -J > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:54:50 -0400 > From: "Tycho Brahe" > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > Subject: FL: motor actuated eyes - any design examples? > I am experimenting with PIC microprocessors and I have a full motor > control development kit here on my desk. I can use it to control > stepper > motors and DC motors, plus use MOSFETs for dumping high current loads > to > other DC actuators as necessary. I'd like to develop a stand-alone, > closed-loop dual-channel controller for the actuation of costume > eyelids. > One of the possibilities is to use some of today's semiconductor > non-contact switch designs to monitor the human eye, and when the > human > eye blinks, to actuate the mechanical eye. Three potentiometers will > enable me to easily "tune" the design for blink sensitivity, eyelid > attack, and decay, with a result of an eye that blinks as fast as > possible > with minimal bounce. > > The actuated eye has been done before. However what I do not know is > the > mechanics of how it's done; whether or not the lid is spring loaded, > on a > shaft which is held in single shear or double shear, and whether or > not > the lid is coupled directly on the motor shaft, or if it's actuated > with > some form of lever/linkage. > > Does anyone have pictures or drawings that show the mechanics of how > the > eye lids are constructed, and where the placement of the motor is > inside > the mask? I need to get an idea about the volume & dimensions of the > motor > space, in order to figure out what size & type of motor to go with. > > Tycho. > > -- > Inquisitive by nature, bold and honorable through upbringing, brave > by > necessity. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 12:28:04 +1000 > From: "Marcwolf" > To: > Subject: Re: FL: motor actuated eyes - any design examples? > Message-ID: <001a01cc32df$835c1e90$8a145bb0$@org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Interesting idea. > > Re monitoring the eye blink - try shining a IR led towards the eye > and > reading the reflectivity. > The eyelid would have a far lower reflextivity than the eye surface. > > Spring loaded lid's are an issue - > > Firstly the design tends to be fairly complex, and secondly the > tuning of > the unit is more critical > > There are several high speed servo's used for ailirons on glider and > other > small planes that would work well, and you can use the lever > principle > (small movement one end - large movement the other) to increase the > speed. > Plus with a servo you can have the eyelids close half way, squint > etc. > > Hope this helps > Marcwolf From chairoraccoon at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 18:05:20 2011 From: chairoraccoon at gmail.com (Chairoraccoon) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:05:20 -0700 Subject: FL: Airbrush / Dye Advice Message-ID: Hey there everyone, I just got a project that requires an airbrush. I am looking for the best equipment I can get that will work with our friend, fur. I also am looking for the proper paint/dye, combos, dilutions, etc. I need to do spots for now that won't bleed with heat or sweat and that won't transfer to others (hugs n such). I've already got plenty of compressors. May need a filter tho. Chirr and thanks!! Chairo From donkeyears at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 19:57:17 2011 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 18:57:17 -0500 Subject: FL: Airbrush / Dye Advice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You do realize that all you are doing is painting the fur? What ever you use is just coating the fur and not penetrating into the fur. In time it will wear off and if you wash the suit the dye will mostly wash off and you will have to reapply the dye. Donkey On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Chairoraccoon wrote: > Hey there everyone, > > I just got a project that requires an airbrush. > > I am looking for the best equipment I can get that will work with our > friend, fur. > > I also am looking for the proper paint/dye, combos, dilutions, etc. I need > to do spots for now that won't bleed with heat or sweat and that won't > transfer to others (hugs n such). > > I've already got plenty of compressors. May need a filter tho. > > Chirr and thanks!! > > Chairo > > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In time it will wear off and if you wash the suit the dye will mostly wash off and you will have to reapply the dye. > > Donkey > > On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Chairoraccoon wrote: > Hey there everyone, > > I just got a project that requires an airbrush. > > I am looking for the best equipment I can get that will work with our friend, fur. > > I also am looking for the proper paint/dye, combos, dilutions, etc. I need to do spots for now that won't bleed with heat or sweat and that won't transfer to others (hugs n such). > > I've already got plenty of compressors. 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URL: From dia at critter.net Sun Jun 26 13:30:26 2011 From: dia at critter.net (dia) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 10:30:26 -0700 Subject: FL: Airbrush / Dye Advice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <349107da5290725ab4ba839079e49da2@secure.critter.net> Hey Chairo, Lance Ikagawa told me about these leather dyes (Fiebing) in the past, and I have a bunch that I have never used if you wanna see if it works (since we are local) http://www.fiebing.com/Using_Leather_Dye.aspx Also, ask this question on LJ Fursuit, TONS of people airbrush there. -J ---------------------- > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:05:20 -0700 > From: Chairoraccoon > To: "fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org" > Subject: FL: Airbrush / Dye Advice > > Hey there everyone, > > I just got a project that requires an airbrush. > > I am looking for the best equipment I can get that will work with our > friend, fur. > > I also am looking for the proper paint/dye, combos, dilutions, etc. I > need to do spots for now that won't bleed with heat or sweat and that > won't transfer to others (hugs n such). > > I've already got plenty of compressors. May need a filter tho. > > Chirr and thanks!! > > Chairo > > > From sckrabei2 at hotmail.com Wed Jun 29 03:42:56 2011 From: sckrabei2 at hotmail.com (luke sckrabei) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 07:42:56 +0000 Subject: FL: Happy trimming!!! Message-ID: Ok, I've had a few drama's with cutting the fur on the side of the suit panels (the 10mm seam allowence) with fur/ hair clippers around the perimeter with not much success. As I want to overlock the lining to the fur panel any pile over 15mm was a bugga to do! Even though I've a 5 thread overlocker, it still looks below par. I just got some Duckbill scissors (for machine embroidery) that look like mini sheep shearing shears and am totally stoked. Also as I've got a safety sticth on my overlocker with a 10mm seam allowence, I then use this as a guide to stitch each panel together. Hope this saves alot of hassle, and can also be used for alot of other stuff too!!! I havent said much for a while, but I'm till around the place. 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Ok, I've had a few drama's with cutting the fur on the side of the suit panels (the 10mm seam allowence)?with fur/ hair clippers around the perimeter?with not much success. As I want to overlock the lining to the fur panel any pile over 15mm was a bugga to do! ? Even though I've a 5 thread overlocker, ?it still looks below par. ? I just got some Duckbill scissors (for machine embroidery) that look like mini sheep shearing shears and am totally stoked. ? Also as I've got a safety sticth on my overlocker with a 10mm seam allowence, I then use this as a guide to stitch each panel together. ? ? Hope this saves alot of hassle, and can also be used for alot of other stuff too!!! ? ?I havent said ?much for a while, but I'm till around the place. ? Luke. ? _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skippy at sk1p.com Tue Jul 5 11:14:11 2011 From: skippy at sk1p.com (Zack F) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 11:14:11 -0400 Subject: FL: Skin protection while suiting? Message-ID: <9522A69631B546CCB8D0E28D46F0DAFE@fensys.com> Hi all. If this is a repeat topic, please forgive me. Lately I've had skin irritation after suiting for a while (usually at conventions after I've been performing for a long time), presumably just from prolonged contact with the sweat on my face. I know that sweat needs to evaporate to cool the body and dispel toxins. It might only happen if I fursuit soon after shaving but I'm not sure. I'm looking for advice that focuses on keeping my skin healthy and comfortable while fursuiting, with fursuit care as a lower priority. Taking more breaks and fursuiting less often will obviously help, but I'm wondering if anybody uses head gear (balaclavas, under armour, etc) specifically to protect their skin. I know they're often used to protect your costume and to keep your body cool, but I don't know how well they work to keep your skin dry as well. Does it help? Any advice is appreciated. Thanks! --skippy From yappyfox at thefoxden.com Tue Jul 5 15:32:51 2011 From: yappyfox at thefoxden.com (Yappy Sly Fox) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 15:32:51 -0400 Subject: FL: Skin protection while suiting? In-Reply-To: <9522A69631B546CCB8D0E28D46F0DAFE@fensys.com> References: <9522A69631B546CCB8D0E28D46F0DAFE@fensys.com> Message-ID: I have found I break out as well, and a few things I have done. Definetly the salts from the sweating, when built up , does tend to irritate.. So I take my head, at least once a year (sometimes 2 depepnding on use) and I just dunk the whole thing in fresh water do rinse out and dilute the sweat. I apply a bit of detergent to the water, shampoo is what I use, since it rinses out easier than most detergents. I rinse it quite liberally, then (since mine are foam heads) I'll squeeze wring them a bit, without distorting them too much. After that, I'll set it on a fan for a couple days, and it will dry right up. As for immediete break outs, I found definetly during my 100 hour marathon at AC, that I applied 1%Hydrocortizone cream to my face, and that cut down on my break outs. I applied before, and then after getting out of suit. I suspect using a balaclave, that you can wash frequelty would also help, keeping a fresh linen barrier that you can wash more than the head itself. > Hi all. If this is a repeat topic, please forgive me. > > Lately I've had skin irritation after suiting for a while (usually at > conventions after I've been performing for a long time), presumably just > from prolonged contact with the sweat on my face. I know that sweat needs > to > evaporate to cool the body and dispel toxins. It might only happen if I > fursuit soon after shaving but I'm not sure. > > I'm looking for advice that focuses on keeping my skin healthy and > comfortable while fursuiting, with fursuit care as a lower priority. > Taking > more breaks and fursuiting less often will obviously help, but I'm > wondering > if anybody uses head gear (balaclavas, under armour, etc) specifically to > protect their skin. I know they're often used to protect your costume and > to > keep your body cool, but I don't know how well they work to keep your skin > dry as well. Does it help? > > Any advice is appreciated. > > Thanks! > --skippy > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > -- ____ |\/| \ /\ / ..__. The Yappy Sly Fox ^..^ (vulpes yappaloticus) \/ \__\ _/ http://www.thefoxden.com/ \__ __ \_ http://thefoxden.com/pubkey for PGP Public Key \____\___\ PGP Fingerprint: 1A4B 5F5F 62FF 295D 6204 4029 6FDF 78BA 24F1 7785 |\_/| ______ |^ ^|____/ ___)_) =\_/= / |_______/ / / / \ From tiger at inow.com Thu Jul 7 16:05:07 2011 From: tiger at inow.com (Tiger Wayne) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 13:05:07 -0700 Subject: FL: White horse hair 23" long for sale. Message-ID: <4E161173.4010208@inow.com> I am posting this for a friend of mine who is selling approximately two (2) pounds of white horsehair, 23.5? long bundle that is 2? in diameter. This hair has been stored in dark and dry storage since it was purchased. Asking $100 or best offer. It is packaged in a laced bundle. The hair is located in the Bay Area and contact information provided on request. Thanks Tiger Wayne From wonder_moose_blue at yahoo.com Tue Jul 12 18:00:08 2011 From: wonder_moose_blue at yahoo.com (Mark Sinicki) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: Skin protection while suiting? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1310508008.69629.YahooMailClassic@web161915.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Wiping out the inside with a washcloth and warm soapy water. Then drying with a boot dryer or hose-type hair dryer. ? Many suiters wear "under armor" to avoid friction burn from activity in the suit. Others wear zentai suits, leotard & tights, unitard, or a dive skin. --- On Tue, 7/5/11, Yappy Sly Fox wrote: From: Yappy Sly Fox Subject: Re: FL: Skin protection while suiting? To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2011, 3:32 PM I have found I break out as well, and a few things I have done. Definetly the salts from the sweating, when built up , does tend to irritate..? So I take my head, at least once a year (sometimes 2 depepnding on use)? and I just dunk the whole thing in fresh water do rinse out and dilute the sweat.? I apply a bit of detergent to the water, shampoo is what I use, since it rinses out easier than most detergents. I rinse it quite liberally, then (since mine are foam heads)? I'll squeeze wring them a bit, without distorting them too much.? After that, I'll set it on a fan for a couple days, and it will dry right up. As for immediete break outs, I found definetly during my 100 hour marathon at AC, that I applied 1%Hydrocortizone cream to my face, and that cut down on my break outs.? I applied before, and then after getting out of suit. I suspect using a balaclave, that you can wash frequelty would also help, keeping a fresh linen barrier that you can wash more than the head itself. > Hi all. If this is a repeat topic, please forgive me. > > Lately I've had skin irritation after suiting for a while (usually at > conventions after I've been performing for a long time), presumably just > from prolonged contact with the sweat on my face. I know that sweat needs > to > evaporate to cool the body and dispel toxins. It might only happen if I > fursuit soon after shaving but I'm not sure. > > I'm looking for advice that focuses on keeping my skin healthy and > comfortable while fursuiting, with fursuit care as a lower priority. > Taking > more breaks and fursuiting less often will obviously help, but I'm > wondering > if anybody uses head gear (balaclavas, under armour, etc) specifically to > protect their skin. I know they're often used to protect your costume and > to > keep your body cool, but I don't know how well they work to keep your skin > dry as well. Does it help? > > Any advice is appreciated. > > Thanks! > --skippy > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > -- ____? ? |\/| \? /\???/ ..__.???The Yappy Sly Fox ^..^? (vulpes yappaloticus) ? \/? \__\???_/? ? http://www.thefoxden.com/ ???\__???__? \_? ? http://thefoxden.com/pubkey for PGP Public Key ? ? ? \____\___\ ? ???PGP Fingerprint: 1A4B 5F5F 62FF 295D 6204? 4029 6FDF 78BA 24F1 7785 |\_/|? ???______ |^ ^|____/ ___)_) =\_/=? ???/ ? |_______/ / /? ? / \ _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fuzzyroo at gmail.com Tue Jul 12 21:31:53 2011 From: fuzzyroo at gmail.com (Fuzzy Roo) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:31:53 -0500 Subject: FL: Skin protection while suiting? In-Reply-To: <1310508008.69629.YahooMailClassic@web161915.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1310508008.69629.YahooMailClassic@web161915.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Washing the suit with wolite after ware will reduce irritation as well. So will bathing before and after. Hygiene is very important, even while Suiting. Posted from HTC smart(ish)-phone. Damn you auto-correct! On Jul 12, 2011 5:00 PM, "Mark Sinicki" wrote: > Wiping out the inside with a washcloth and warm soapy water. Then drying with a boot dryer or hose-type hair dryer. > > Many suiters wear "under armor" to avoid friction burn from activity in the suit. Others wear zentai suits, leotard & tights, unitard, or a dive skin. > > --- On Tue, 7/5/11, Yappy Sly Fox wrote: > > > From: Yappy Sly Fox > Subject: Re: FL: Skin protection while suiting? > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2011, 3:32 PM > > > I have found I break out as well, and a few things I have done. > > Definetly the salts from the sweating, when built up , does tend to > irritate.. So I take my head, at least once a year (sometimes 2 > depepnding on use) and I just dunk the whole thing in fresh water do > rinse out and dilute the sweat. I apply a bit of detergent to the water, > shampoo is what I use, since it rinses out easier than most detergents. I > rinse it quite liberally, then (since mine are foam heads) I'll squeeze > wring them a bit, without distorting them too much. After that, I'll set > it on a fan for a couple days, and it will dry right up. > > As for immediete break outs, I found definetly during my 100 hour marathon > at AC, that I applied 1%Hydrocortizone cream to my face, and that cut down > on my break outs. I applied before, and then after getting out of suit. > > I suspect using a balaclave, that you can wash frequelty would also help, > keeping a fresh linen barrier that you can wash more than the head itself. > > >> Hi all. If this is a repeat topic, please forgive me. >> >> Lately I've had skin irritation after suiting for a while (usually at >> conventions after I've been performing for a long time), presumably just >> from prolonged contact with the sweat on my face. I know that sweat needs >> to >> evaporate to cool the body and dispel toxins. It might only happen if I >> fursuit soon after shaving but I'm not sure. >> >> I'm looking for advice that focuses on keeping my skin healthy and >> comfortable while fursuiting, with fursuit care as a lower priority. >> Taking >> more breaks and fursuiting less often will obviously help, but I'm >> wondering >> if anybody uses head gear (balaclavas, under armour, etc) specifically to >> protect their skin. I know they're often used to protect your costume and >> to >> keep your body cool, but I don't know how well they work to keep your skin >> dry as well. Does it help? >> >> Any advice is appreciated. >> >> Thanks! >> --skippy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> Fursuit Mail list. >> To edit your subscription, visit: >> http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register >> > > > -- > ____ |\/| > \ /\ / ..__. The Yappy Sly Fox ^..^ (vulpes yappaloticus) > \/ \__\ _/ http://www.thefoxden.com/ > \__ __ \_ http://thefoxden.com/pubkey for PGP Public Key > \____\___\ > > PGP Fingerprint: 1A4B 5F5F 62FF 295D 6204 4029 6FDF 78BA 24F1 7785 > > > |\_/| ______ > |^ ^|____/ ___)_) > =\_/= / > |_______/ > / / / \ > > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From juzbunny at netspace.net.au Wed Jul 13 18:19:50 2011 From: juzbunny at netspace.net.au (Justin Semmel) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 08:19:50 +1000 Subject: FL: Skin protection while suiting? In-Reply-To: References: <1310508008.69629.YahooMailClassic@web161915.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3FA489EEC13944F4A34C3FD8F78BF100@Nyao> Wick suits anyone? ----- Original Message ----- From: Fuzzy Roo To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:31 AM Subject: Re: FL: Skin protection while suiting? Washing the suit with wolite after ware will reduce irritation as well. So will bathing before and after. Hygiene is very important, even while Suiting. Posted from HTC smart(ish)-phone. Damn you auto-correct! On Jul 12, 2011 5:00 PM, "Mark Sinicki" wrote: > Wiping out the inside with a washcloth and warm soapy water. Then drying with a boot dryer or hose-type hair dryer. > > Many suiters wear "under armor" to avoid friction burn from activity in the suit. Others wear zentai suits, leotard & tights, unitard, or a dive skin. > > --- On Tue, 7/5/11, Yappy Sly Fox wrote: > > > From: Yappy Sly Fox > Subject: Re: FL: Skin protection while suiting? > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2011, 3:32 PM > > > I have found I break out as well, and a few things I have done. > > Definetly the salts from the sweating, when built up , does tend to > irritate.. So I take my head, at least once a year (sometimes 2 > depepnding on use) and I just dunk the whole thing in fresh water do > rinse out and dilute the sweat. I apply a bit of detergent to the water, > shampoo is what I use, since it rinses out easier than most detergents. I > rinse it quite liberally, then (since mine are foam heads) I'll squeeze > wring them a bit, without distorting them too much. After that, I'll set > it on a fan for a couple days, and it will dry right up. > > As for immediete break outs, I found definetly during my 100 hour marathon > at AC, that I applied 1%Hydrocortizone cream to my face, and that cut down > on my break outs. I applied before, and then after getting out of suit. > > I suspect using a balaclave, that you can wash frequelty would also help, > keeping a fresh linen barrier that you can wash more than the head itself. > > >> Hi all. If this is a repeat topic, please forgive me. >> >> Lately I've had skin irritation after suiting for a while (usually at >> conventions after I've been performing for a long time), presumably just >> from prolonged contact with the sweat on my face. I know that sweat needs >> to >> evaporate to cool the body and dispel toxins. It might only happen if I >> fursuit soon after shaving but I'm not sure. >> >> I'm looking for advice that focuses on keeping my skin healthy and >> comfortable while fursuiting, with fursuit care as a lower priority. >> Taking >> more breaks and fursuiting less often will obviously help, but I'm >> wondering >> if anybody uses head gear (balaclavas, under armour, etc) specifically to >> protect their skin. I know they're often used to protect your costume and >> to >> keep your body cool, but I don't know how well they work to keep your skin >> dry as well. Does it help? >> >> Any advice is appreciated. >> >> Thanks! >> --skippy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> Fursuit Mail list. >> To edit your subscription, visit: >> http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register >> > > > -- > ____ |\/| > \ /\ / ..__. The Yappy Sly Fox ^..^ (vulpes yappaloticus) > \/ \__\ _/ http://www.thefoxden.com/ > \__ __ \_ http://thefoxden.com/pubkey for PGP Public Key > \____\___\ > > PGP Fingerprint: 1A4B 5F5F 62FF 295D 6204 4029 6FDF 78BA 24F1 7785 > > > |\_/| ______ > |^ ^|____/ ___)_) > =\_/= / > |_______/ > / / / \ > > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aucune at gmail.com Wed Jul 13 18:48:47 2011 From: aucune at gmail.com (Benoit Houle) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:48:47 +0000 Subject: FL: Skin protection while suiting? In-Reply-To: <3FA489EEC13944F4A34C3FD8F78BF100@Nyao> References: <1310508008.69629.YahooMailClassic@web161915.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><3FA489EEC13944F4A34C3FD8F78BF100@Nyao> Message-ID: <138575241-1310597329-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-916981325-@b11.c21.bise6.blackberry> I am a big fan of either zentai or under amour under suit they are moisture wicking and protect skin Benoit Houle (via Talmak's Crackberry ) [aucune at gmail.com] -----Original Message----- From: "Justin Semmel" Sender: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 08:19:50 To: Reply-To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: Re: FL: Skin protection while suiting? _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register From whiteninjawolf at yahoo.com Wed Jul 13 20:32:49 2011 From: whiteninjawolf at yahoo.com (james olmstead) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: Skin protection while suiting? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1310603569.10963.YahooMailClassic@web43141.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hey thank you this is a lot of help --- On Tue, 7/12/11, Fuzzy Roo wrote: From: Fuzzy Roo Subject: Re: FL: Skin protection while suiting? To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 9:31 PM Washing the suit with wolite after ware will reduce irritation as well.? So will bathing before and after.? Hygiene is very important, even while Suiting. Posted from HTC smart(ish)-phone.? Damn you auto-correct! On Jul 12, 2011 5:00 PM, "Mark Sinicki" wrote: > Wiping out the inside with a washcloth and warm soapy water. Then drying with a boot dryer or hose-type hair dryer. > ? > Many suiters wear "under armor" to avoid friction burn from activity in the suit. Others wear zentai suits, leotard & tights, unitard, or a dive skin. > > --- On Tue, 7/5/11, Yappy Sly Fox wrote: > > > From: Yappy Sly Fox > Subject: Re: FL: Skin protection while suiting? > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2011, 3:32 PM > > > I have found I break out as well, and a few things I have done. > > Definetly the salts from the sweating, when built up , does tend to > irritate..? So I take my head, at least once a year (sometimes 2 > depepnding on use)? and I just dunk the whole thing in fresh water do > rinse out and dilute the sweat.? I apply a bit of detergent to the water, > shampoo is what I use, since it rinses out easier than most detergents. I > rinse it quite liberally, then (since mine are foam heads)? I'll squeeze > wring them a bit, without distorting them too much.? After that, I'll set > it on a fan for a couple days, and it will dry right up. > > As for immediete break outs, I found definetly during my 100 hour marathon > at AC, that I applied 1%Hydrocortizone cream to my face, and that cut down > on my break outs.? I applied before, and then after getting out of suit. > > I suspect using a balaclave, that you can wash frequelty would also help, > keeping a fresh linen barrier that you can wash more than the head itself. > > >> Hi all. If this is a repeat topic, please forgive me. >> >> Lately I've had skin irritation after suiting for a while (usually at >> conventions after I've been performing for a long time), presumably just >> from prolonged contact with the sweat on my face. I know that sweat needs >> to >> evaporate to cool the body and dispel toxins. It might only happen if I >> fursuit soon after shaving but I'm not sure. >> >> I'm looking for advice that focuses on keeping my skin healthy and >> comfortable while fursuiting, with fursuit care as a lower priority. >> Taking >> more breaks and fursuiting less often will obviously help, but I'm >> wondering >> if anybody uses head gear (balaclavas, under armour, etc) specifically to >> protect their skin. I know they're often used to protect your costume and >> to >> keep your body cool, but I don't know how well they work to keep your skin >> dry as well. Does it help? >> >> Any advice is appreciated. >> >> Thanks! >> --skippy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> Fursuit Mail list. >> To edit your subscription, visit: >> http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register >> > > > -- > ____? ? |\/| > \? /\???/ ..__.???The Yappy Sly Fox ^..^? 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JOURNAL ENTRY - The following excerpts were found on Wolfpaws's online journal, in the order listed. Oddly enough the system admins cannot decipher how things were posted out of order and state it was not due to a system issue. Saturday, August 16, 2008 (7:48pm CST) Tyger and I made an incredible find for this year's MFM! We're both really excited and started stockpiling as much as we can in the time allowed. Might have to grab some additional folks to help out, because this is amazing. Here I thought we only had one shot at making this happen, but turns out we've got a lot more time than we figured. Really as much as we want now that I think about it. *laugh* Will have to post more when I get the chance. Connection here's a bit spotty. It was really nice to see the ducks at the Holiday Inn again, even if they did look a bit confused when we showed up. Thursday, July 21, 2011 (8:13pm CST) Going over to Tyger's to discuss con setup. Not sure exactly what we'll do to kick things off, but something new would be good. How the heck do you do something better than a bunny suit on a motorcycle? We've both been wracking our brains on that one. Grabbing some dinner with him and we'll see where things go. Thursday, July 21, 2011 (9:09pm CST) HOLY CRAP! It IS bigger on the inside! Wednesday, August 24, 2011 (2:13am CST) I hope my posts are getting through. Doc (he hates it when I call him that) says the connection should work, but it seems to hiccup every once in while. I emailed the site admins to find out why my posts are all over the place. Still have to finalize some scheduling items, but I really think it's going to be a good year. We've all found a lot of good stuff, but between the "Yatta!"s and the constant air guitars, it gets pretty noisy in here. I'm really still confused on the meeting we had with Mr. Price. Who would've guessed he'd know the Doc? Tyger really liked his roast turkey - it was amazing! Too bad there wasn't any left after we were through with it. Labor Day Weekend 2011 - September 2 - 4 Guest of Honor: Bucktown Tiger Bucktown Tiger is a lyricist, keyboardist, and comedian who specializes in furry-themed hip-hop songs, voiceovers, and freestyles, as lead shopwrecker of Paw Recognize Paw Studios. Bucktown's filksongs include "Ridin' Furry", "In Da Con", and "Going To A Furcon," and he is the author and composer of Orange and Black: The Furst Album, which includes "Rolling Up Coins" and "Throw Your Paws Up", Shop Music, which includes "Get a Furst Life" and "Tigers Run the Shop", and Scritching the Ivories, which is a collection of popular songs covered by Bucktown on the keyboard. Bucktown has performed his music live at numerous furry conventions, including Oklacon, Furry Fiesta, Morphicon, Mephit Fur Meet, and Rocket City Fur Meet and also performs regularly on Ustream. It will be here before we know it when Tyger will open MFM 15 with these words ?Welcome Home?. That?s right, we are quickly approaching the start of Mephit Fur Meet 2011, the place so many of us now call home. Make your plans now to attend one of the BEST gatherings in the furry community. Yes, Welcome Home brings a very special meaning to this year's MFM!! We are please to now call The Whispering Woods Hotel & Conference Center our home. How many other Furry gatherings do you know can claim to having their own 175 acre retreat center to call home?! Those of you that joined us last year know what an amazing place this is!!! http://www.wwconferencecenter.com/ See below for booking instructions and special information - You MUST book your room directly with the hotel! We knew it was going to happen, the MFM official hotel has sold out!!! It looks like this will be a record year for MFM and with our new amazing hotel Whispering Woods, everyone wants to be a part of it! We have now opened rooms up at the Fairfield Inn which is actually on property (you just walk across the lawn to get to Whispering Woods, the main MFM hotel) Whispering Woods is accepting waitlists for anyone that would still try and get into the main hotel. The MFM overflow hotel is: Fairfield Inn & Suites 7044 Hacks Cross Road Olive Branch, MS 38654 Main Number 662-892-4469 Ask for the Mephit Fur Meet rate which is $100 per night plus tax or King Suites at $114 per night plus tax If you would still like to get on the waitlist, contact Whispering Woods Hotel and Conference Center 11200 East Goodman Road Olive Branch, MS 38654 Call 1-866-851-0393 or 662-895-2941 to make a reservation/waitlist Mon-Fri 7 am?10 pm. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jambrassard at earthlink.net Wed Aug 10 18:51:34 2011 From: jambrassard at earthlink.net (Michel Brassard) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:51:34 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: FL: In Denver until Friday Message-ID: <23918000.1313016694536.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I am in nearby Louisville, CO for a job interview and will be there until this Friday. I'd love to meet any local furs in the area if there is an opportunity. I can make it to the RMFC hotel tomorrow evening if need be. Because my job interview was scheduled at the last minute, I was unable to make any plans to attend RMFC itself, but I figure that any local furs who are part of that con will be setting up tomorrow. I'll see about showing up at the hotel just to hang out with the local furs for any pre-con gatherings before I have to fly home Friday afternoon. J. A. Michel Brassard - a.k.a. Michel Mephit From marcwolf at marcwolf.org Sat Sep 3 19:53:50 2011 From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (marcwolf.org) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 09:53:50 +1000 Subject: FL: Hot Glue substitute Message-ID: Hi Folks I have a problem I am trying to solve. Hot Melt glue is a great product as it's fast and easy to use. However as I live in Australa it can get pretty hot and I found a few times that the glue had softened when the parts were being transported in the car. What can you recommend as a substitute Many thanks Marc From kameoelemental at gmail.com Thu Sep 8 02:58:52 2011 From: kameoelemental at gmail.com (Ashlee Bruton) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 23:58:52 -0700 Subject: FL: Hot Glue substitute In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: U could try putting it in the fridge or freezer once you get home then get them out about half hour before you plan on working on ur project and let them get to room temperature. Hope this helps. On Sep 7, 2011 11:38 PM, "marcwolf.org" wrote: > Hi Folks > > I have a problem I am trying to solve. Hot Melt glue is a great product as > it's fast and easy to use. > > However as I live in Australa it can get pretty hot and I found a few times > that the glue had softened when the parts were being transported in the car. > > What can you recommend as a substitute > > Many thanks > Marc > > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de Thu Sep 8 03:44:59 2011 From: m.kalkbrenner at maskottchen-germany.de (Markus Kalkbrenner - Maskottchen Germany) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 09:44:59 +0200 Subject: FL: Hot Glue substitute In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1457206349.20110908094459@maskottchen-germany.de> Hi Over 70 C Hot Glue gets soft. with 100 C ist starts sticking again best is you store your suit in a Big Esky Box or Aloi Zarges Box. All so great are GFK Boxes of the Army. Regards From cool but in summer 10 Days hot mid Europe (This year max. 37 C with 85% humidity) > Hi Folks > I have a problem I am trying to solve. Hot Melt glue is a great product as > it's fast and easy to use. > However as I live in Australa it can get pretty hot and I found a few times > that the glue had softened when the parts were being transported in the car. > What can you recommend as a substitute > Many thanks > Marc > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register From shadow_brisbane at live.com Thu Sep 8 03:58:31 2011 From: shadow_brisbane at live.com (Jake Johnston) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 03:58:31 -0400 Subject: FL: Hot Glue substitute In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: try these guys. http://jbweld.net/products/jbweld.php its welding adhesive. it basically does the same thing welding, Brazing or soldering does only it does it without any need for heat. it also has a very high heat resistance threshold. hope that can help,~Jake/Connor > From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org > To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org > Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 09:53:50 +1000 > Subject: FL: Hot Glue substitute > > Hi Folks > > I have a problem I am trying to solve. Hot Melt glue is a great product as > it's fast and easy to use. > > However as I live in Australa it can get pretty hot and I found a few times > that the glue had softened when the parts were being transported in the car. > > What can you recommend as a substitute > > Many thanks > Marc > > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shadow_brisbane at live.com Thu Sep 8 15:03:09 2011 From: shadow_brisbane at live.com (Jake Johnston) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 15:03:09 -0400 Subject: FL: Official Hello In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi everybody. i just wanted to officially introduce myself to everyone. My name is Jake. I live in Rhode Island. You can also call me Shadow. My Fursona is Connor Rafe. I'll give a bit of a description of Connor here: so you all can get an idea of what he looks like. Connor is a genetically altered wolf. he has 3 tails and his main colors are black with a gray underbelly, a blue almost turquoise stripe down his back (and the same color blue on the insides of his ears) and brown hair on top of his head. he has deep blue eyes which (when i make his head) will glow in the dark. despite being a genetic experiment for most of his life he's upbeat and a bit of an innocent and a lovable spazz. i still have to work out his markings but my girlfriend and i shall be doing that tomorrow afternoon anyways thanks for taking the time to read this and i look forward to many good memories as a part of the fandom. if you have any questions or comments please don't hesitate to message me. thanks again ~Connor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From delphinios at gmail.com Thu Sep 8 17:10:01 2011 From: delphinios at gmail.com (Delph) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:10:01 -0500 Subject: FL: Hot Glue substitute In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There are 3 "temperatures" of Hot Glue: Low Temperature (Melts at 260?F - 127?C) and High Temperature (Melts at 380?F - 193?C). Multitemp Hot Glue generally softens/melts at the same temperature as low-temp hot glue. If you're having issues with your Hot Glue softening in the sun, it may be worth the investment to purchase and use a high-temp Hot Glue gun and sticks instead. JB Weld is not recommended for most fursuit work unless you know what you're doing, as incorrectly mixed patches can become damaging both to material and skin. Also, you never want to use JB Weld in a fursuit head, as it can outgass (put off vapors) even long after it's solidified that can be harmful to people if directly concentrated and inhaled, such conditions as you may find in an enclosed fursuit head. Your local hobby/crafts store, or online shop should have high-temp hot glue materials and equipment for sale. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:58 AM, Jake Johnston wrote: > try these guys.?http://jbweld.net/products/jbweld.php > its welding adhesive. it basically does the same thing welding, Brazing or > soldering does only it does it without any need for heat. it also has a very > high heat resistance threshold. > hope that can help, > ~Jake/Connor > >> From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org >> To: fursuit-list at fursuit.org >> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 09:53:50 +1000 >> Subject: FL: Hot Glue substitute >> >> Hi Folks >> >> I have a problem I am trying to solve. Hot Melt glue is a great product as >> it's fast and easy to use. >> >> However as I live in Australa it can get pretty hot and I found a few >> times >> that the glue had softened when the parts were being transported in the >> car. >> >> What can you recommend as a substitute >> >> Many thanks >> Marc >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> Fursuit Mail list. >> To edit your subscription, visit: >> http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > -- -Delph- From donkeyears at gmail.com Thu Sep 8 17:19:28 2011 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:19:28 -0500 Subject: FL: Hot Glue substitute In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would not use J.B. Weld for any fursuit application for another reason. From my experience it has always failed to hold. I do not think that its as good of a product as the manufacturer claims. I have found that the types of superglue that I have used to work far better. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Delph wrote: > > JB Weld is not recommended for most fursuit work unless you know what > you're doing, as incorrectly mixed patches can become damaging both to > material and skin. Also, you never want to use JB Weld in a fursuit > head, as it can outgass (put off vapors) even long after it's > solidified that can be harmful to people if directly concentrated and > inhaled, such conditions as you may find in an enclosed fursuit head. From marcwolf at marcwolf.org Thu Sep 8 19:47:27 2011 From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (Marcwolf) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:27 +1000 Subject: FL: Hot Glue substitute In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004c01cc6e81$acf29f80$06d7de80$@org> Hi Folks Thanks for all of the comments but I am afraid you are missing the main point. If the glue softens at a temperature that would be normal in our climate.. What happens when the suit is in a suitcase waiting to be loaded on a plane, or sitting in the plane's hold on the runway. Its just not possible to protect the suit in a controlled climate all of the time and it will be times like transporting on conventions etc where it will be at the most risk Many thanks for all comments Marcwolf From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Ashlee Bruton Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2011 4:59 PM To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: Re: FL: Hot Glue substitute U could try putting it in the fridge or freezer once you get home then get them out about half hour before you plan on working on ur project and let them get to room temperature. Hope this helps. On Sep 7, 2011 11:38 PM, "marcwolf.org" wrote: > Hi Folks > > I have a problem I am trying to solve. Hot Melt glue is a great product as > it's fast and easy to use. > > However as I live in Australa it can get pretty hot and I found a few times > that the glue had softened when the parts were being transported in the car. > > What can you recommend as a substitute > > Many thanks > Marc > > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donkeyears at gmail.com Thu Sep 8 20:30:14 2011 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 19:30:14 -0500 Subject: FL: Hot Glue substitute In-Reply-To: <004c01cc6e81$acf29f80$06d7de80$@org> References: <004c01cc6e81$acf29f80$06d7de80$@org> Message-ID: I use M3 supper 77 spray glue and I have tried different types of superglues. None of which are affected all that much by temperatures that you would normally find even in the hottest boot of a car. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Marcwolf wrote: > Hi Folks > > Thanks for all of the comments but I am afraid you are missing the main > point.? If the glue softens at a temperature that would be normal in our > climate.. What happens when the suit is in a suitcase waiting to be loaded > on a plane, or sitting in the plane?s hold on the runway. > > > > Its just not possible to protect the suit in a controlled climate all of the > time and it will be times like transporting on conventions etc where it will > be at the most risk > > > > Many thanks for all comments > > Marcwolf > > > > From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org > [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Ashlee Bruton > Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2011 4:59 PM > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > Subject: Re: FL: Hot Glue substitute > > > > U could try putting it in the fridge or freezer once you get home then get > them out about half hour before you plan on working on ur project and let > them get to room temperature. Hope this helps. > > On Sep 7, 2011 11:38 PM, "marcwolf.org" wrote: >> Hi Folks >> >> I have a problem I am trying to solve. Hot Melt glue is a great product as >> it's fast and easy to use. >> >> However as I live in Australa it can get pretty hot and I found a few >> times >> that the glue had softened when the parts were being transported in the >> car. >> >> What can you recommend as a substitute >> >> Many thanks >> Marc >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> Fursuit Mail list. >> To edit your subscription, visit: >> http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > From anthrobunny at gmail.com Thu Sep 8 20:38:16 2011 From: anthrobunny at gmail.com (Blackberry) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 17:38:16 -0700 Subject: FL: Hot Glue substitute In-Reply-To: References: <004c01cc6e81$acf29f80$06d7de80$@org> Message-ID: If it's foam rubber and/or fur, something porous, you can't go wrong with Super 77. If it's plastic mesh that you're trying to hold together, go with something akin to its intended purpose and hold them together with zip ties, strong yarn, or twine. -- "I guess I like board games more than most people. And by that I mean I like playing board games more than most people do, and I like board games more than I like most people." - Strong Sad, homestarrunner.com From donkeyears at gmail.com Thu Sep 8 20:44:47 2011 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 19:44:47 -0500 Subject: FL: Hot Glue substitute In-Reply-To: References: <004c01cc6e81$acf29f80$06d7de80$@org> Message-ID: On my plastic mesh heads I used leather yarn. Leather yarn is a very thick like yarn and is imbedded with wax. Its used in working with saddles and other riding tack. I used it just like sowing fabric. I think that it came out quite well. Donkey On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Blackberry wrote: > If it's foam rubber and/or fur, something porous, you can't go wrong > with Super 77. ?If it's plastic mesh that you're trying to hold > together, go with something akin to its intended purpose and hold them > together with zip ties, strong yarn, or twine. > > > -- > "I guess I like board games more than most people. And by that I mean > I like playing board games more than most people do, and I like board > games more than I like most people." - Strong Sad, homestarrunner.com > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > From shadow_brisbane at live.com Thu Sep 8 20:59:49 2011 From: shadow_brisbane at live.com (Jake Johnston) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 20:59:49 -0400 Subject: FL: Hot Glue substitute In-Reply-To: <004c01cc6e81$acf29f80$06d7de80$@org> References: , , <004c01cc6e81$acf29f80$06d7de80$@org> Message-ID: what about incorporating redundancies into it? like aside from gluing it use upholstery or a similar heavy-duty thread and maybe snap rivets at particular points? From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:27 +1000 Subject: Re: FL: Hot Glue substitute Hi FolksThanks for all of the comments but I am afraid you are missing the main point. If the glue softens at a temperature that would be normal in our climate.. What happens when the suit is in a suitcase waiting to be loaded on a plane, or sitting in the plane?s hold on the runway. Its just not possible to protect the suit in a controlled climate all of the time and it will be times like transporting on conventions etc where it will be at the most risk Many thanks for all commentsMarcwolf From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Ashlee Bruton Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2011 4:59 PM To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: Re: FL: Hot Glue substitute U could try putting it in the fridge or freezer once you get home then get them out about half hour before you plan on working on ur project and let them get to room temperature. Hope this helps.On Sep 7, 2011 11:38 PM, "marcwolf.org" wrote: > Hi Folks > > I have a problem I am trying to solve. Hot Melt glue is a great product as > it's fast and easy to use. > > However as I live in Australa it can get pretty hot and I found a few times > that the glue had softened when the parts were being transported in the car. > > What can you recommend as a substitute > > Many thanks > Marc > > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foxfairy at gmail.com Thu Sep 8 21:34:36 2011 From: foxfairy at gmail.com (Rowena C) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 21:34:36 -0400 Subject: FL: Hot Glue substitute In-Reply-To: References: <004c01cc6e81$acf29f80$06d7de80$@org> Message-ID: Hi there, not sure if I've posted to this list before! Name's Foxfairy. Anyway, as for a suggestion - E6000 is an "industrial" adhesive that can be found at most hardware stores (at least in the US, probably in Australia too) in a caulking size tube. Smaller tubes are available online. It's a very strong glue, holds up well to high temperatures, and doesn't have a very strong smell. On Thursday, September 8, 2011, Jake Johnston wrote: > what about incorporating redundancies into it? like aside from gluing it use upholstery or a similar heavy-duty thread and maybe snap rivets at particular points? > > ________________________________ > From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:27 +1000 > Subject: Re: FL: Hot Glue substitute > > Hi Folks > > Thanks for all of the comments but I am afraid you are missing the main point. If the glue softens at a temperature that would be normal in our climate.. What happens when the suit is in a suitcase waiting to be loaded on a plane, or sitting in the plane?s hold on the runway. > > > > Its just not possible to protect the suit in a controlled climate all of the time and it will be times like transporting on conventions etc where it will be at the most risk > > > > Many thanks for all comments > > Marcwolf > > > > From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org [mailto: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Ashlee Bruton > Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2011 4:59 PM > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > Subject: Re: FL: Hot Glue substitute > > > > U could try putting it in the fridge or freezer once you get home then get them out about half hour before you plan on working on ur project and let them get to room temperature. Hope this helps. > > On Sep 7, 2011 11:38 PM, "marcwolf.org" wrote: >> Hi Folks >> >> I have a problem I am trying to solve. Hot Melt glue is a great product as >> it's fast and easy to use. >> >> However as I live in Australa it can get pretty hot and I found a few times >> that the glue had softened when the parts were being transported in the car. >> >> What can you recommend as a substitute >> >> Many thanks >> Marc >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> Fursuit Mail list. >> To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shadow_brisbane at live.com Thu Sep 8 23:06:41 2011 From: shadow_brisbane at live.com (Jake Johnston) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 23:06:41 -0400 Subject: FL: Hot Glue substitute In-Reply-To: References: , , <004c01cc6e81$acf29f80$06d7de80$@org>, , Message-ID: thats a good idea Foxfairy :D Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 21:34:36 -0400 From: foxfairy at gmail.com To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: Re: FL: Hot Glue substitute Hi there, not sure if I've posted to this list before! Name's Foxfairy. Anyway, as for a suggestion - E6000 is an "industrial" adhesive that can be found at most hardware stores (at least in the US, probably in Australia too) in a caulking size tube. Smaller tubes are available online. It's a very strong glue, holds up well to high temperatures, and doesn't have a very strong smell. On Thursday, September 8, 2011, Jake Johnston wrote: > what about incorporating redundancies into it? like aside from gluing it use upholstery or a similar heavy-duty thread and maybe snap rivets at particular points? > > ________________________________ > From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:27 +1000 > Subject: Re: FL: Hot Glue substitute > > Hi Folks > > Thanks for all of the comments but I am afraid you are missing the main point. If the glue softens at a temperature that would be normal in our climate.. What happens when the suit is in a suitcase waiting to be loaded on a plane, or sitting in the plane?s hold on the runway. > > > > Its just not possible to protect the suit in a controlled climate all of the time and it will be times like transporting on conventions etc where it will be at the most risk > > > > Many thanks for all comments > > Marcwolf > > > > From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org] On Behalf Of Ashlee Bruton > Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2011 4:59 PM > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > Subject: Re: FL: Hot Glue substitute > > > > U could try putting it in the fridge or freezer once you get home then get them out about half hour before you plan on working on ur project and let them get to room temperature. Hope this helps. > > On Sep 7, 2011 11:38 PM, "marcwolf.org" wrote: >> Hi Folks >> >> I have a problem I am trying to solve. Hot Melt glue is a great product as >> it's fast and easy to use. >> >> However as I live in Australa it can get pretty hot and I found a few times >> that the glue had softened when the parts were being transported in the car. >> >> What can you recommend as a substitute >> >> Many thanks >> Marc >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> Fursuit Mail list. >> To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marcwolf at marcwolf.org Thu Sep 8 23:52:10 2011 From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (Marcwolf) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 13:52:10 +1000 Subject: FL: Hot Glue substitute In-Reply-To: <004c01cc6e81$acf29f80$06d7de80$@org> References: <004c01cc6e81$acf29f80$06d7de80$@org> Message-ID: <00a301cc6ea3$da72e830$8f58b890$@org> Often I will use hot glue to prototype things. And to hold wires in place. Hi-temp hot melt sounds good is I can get it. Many thanks Marc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tycho at ws6transam.org Fri Sep 9 13:47:09 2011 From: tycho at ws6transam.org (Tycho Brahe) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 13:47:09 -0400 Subject: FL: Hot Glue substitute In-Reply-To: <00a301cc6ea3$da72e830$8f58b890$@org> References: <004c01cc6e81$acf29f80$06d7de80$@org> <00a301cc6ea3$da72e830$8f58b890$@org> Message-ID: <9209a925623f53c8ca5f3679299512f7.squirrel@emailmg.startlogic.com> +2 on the hi-temp hot melt glue. It's good for prototyping. JB Weld on the other hand, is a weldable epoxy. It takes a good 24 hours for it to set properly at room temperature. It'll take a minimum of six hours for it to stop being tacky. It has incredible strength when it sets, and is good for bonding metals in applications where there is not a lot of shear stress. However it's not for fabrics. If an epoxy is to be used, a better one is 5-minute epoxy, mixed in small batches. It cures in an off-white color over the course of ....five minutes. Then it's solid after an hour. I've used both for non-costume apps and never experienced any outgassing once cured. 3M Super 77 is great stuff - I've used it for the restoration of headliners and for the interior work on a snowmobile cutter sleigh; I've used it for bonding closed cell neoprene foam to create seat padding and the stuff is terrific, so long as your surfaces are dry & clean. You can either spray one surface for moderate adhesion, or spray both surfaces and let set for sixty seconds before sticking them together for super adhesion. It does, however have issues with overspray making everything around it feel tacky, so watch out and be careful with your management of overspray by masking off the parts you don't want getting stuck. The Super cleans up with mineral spirits when fresh, and requires increasingly aggressive solvents the longer you let it cure. HTH, -Dan -- Inquisitive by nature, bold and honorable through upbringing, brave by necessity. From whatsinyourwallet at msn.com Sun Sep 11 13:33:45 2011 From: whatsinyourwallet at msn.com (whatsinyourwallet at msn.com) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:33:45 -0400 Subject: FL: Fursuit-list Digest, Vol 64, Issue 5 Message-ID: There is also jb quick I use that stuff more often but it does not last as long in the tube nor working time it cures in less then an hour. Also super 77 is the best stuff I have seen for bonding fabric to surfaces shake, spray one side,spray the other, wait, push together and hold for 30 seconds mew From dragon at owc.net Sun Sep 11 23:34:10 2011 From: dragon at owc.net (Firewing) Date: 12 Sep 2011 03:34:10 -0000 Subject: FL: Fursuit videos Message-ID: <2084972607.1101771315799707545.JavaMail.root@ozcn1.owcdns.net> Posted from another mailing list: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuWRZd5l7xM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KksV4sA3HME http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sil36eE4HHU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl2fd-QOMSA Anyone seen these before or speak Russian? -Firewing From shadow_brisbane at live.com Mon Sep 12 01:19:55 2011 From: shadow_brisbane at live.com (Jake Johnston) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 01:19:55 -0400 Subject: FL: Dyeing synthetic fur In-Reply-To: <2084972607.1101771315799707545.JavaMail.root@ozcn1.owcdns.net> References: <2084972607.1101771315799707545.JavaMail.root@ozcn1.owcdns.net> Message-ID: hi folks... i have a couple of n00b questions. I've been searching around online for a way to dye white synthetic fur dark colors. I've found Beetlecat's tutorial (http://beetlecat.livejournal.com/188117.html) and I've found the sharpie method (http://fursuit.livejournal.com/2826105.html). my questions are this: Are there other methods that can be used?Which method gives the most success for dark colors?Which is best for durability?Which are best for markings?Which is best for giving the most vibrant color? my other question regards UV reactive paint. i'm thinking of using as a sort of top coat for Connor's markings so they're visible during raves. what's the best paint to use, can it be applied the same way as beetlecat's method above and what is the best way to apply it in an intricate design? thanks in advance for your help, ~Connor *wags tails* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From "The Big Picture" at Boston.com > > http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2011/09/burning_man_at_25_years.html > > Nougat was first seen at MFF 2008, I still had not finished his feet yet > ... now he goes out and gets all dusty in the desert ... dirty doggie. > > Woof! > > - Chairo > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donkeyears at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 08:17:28 2011 From: donkeyears at gmail.com (Donkey) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:17:28 -0500 Subject: FL: phantom tail syndrome Message-ID: I was wondering if any other fursuiter seems to have phantom tail syndrome? For some odd reason when I sit down I try to move my tail out of the way so I will not sit on it. The problem is that I am not wearing a tail to move out of the way. 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From "The Big Picture" at Boston.com http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2011/09/burning_man_at_25_years.html Nougat was first seen at MFF 2008, I still had not finished his feet yet ... now he goes out and gets all dusty in the desert ... dirty doggie. Woof! - Chairo _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/ user_mailman_register -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marcwolf at marcwolf.org Sat Sep 17 10:02:56 2011 From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (marcwolf.org) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 00:02:56 +1000 Subject: FL: phantom tail syndrome In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yep.. And even worse is phantom suit syndrome. You've spent a day in the suit running around entertaining kids by smiling and waving at them.. Which if fun when it's done by a big friendly wolf. However when its done by a middle aged man it's totally different. Take Care Marcwolf -----Original Message----- From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of Donkey Sent: Saturday, 17 September 2011 22:17 To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Subject: FL: phantom tail syndrome I was wondering if any other fursuiter seems to have phantom tail syndrome? For some odd reason when I sit down I try to move my tail out of the way so I will not sit on it. The problem is that I am not wearing a tail to move out of the way. I am finding this odd and some what disturbing. Donkey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From chameleon264 at yahoo.com Sat Sep 17 11:36:23 2011 From: chameleon264 at yahoo.com (Black Foot) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 08:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FL: phantom tail syndrome In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1316273783.82366.YahooMailNeo@web65919.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> I know I myself experience phantom limbs and phantom body cuz the suit that I have is my actual body that I feel like I need to be in. ? Proud & Free To Be A Furry Black Foot. ________________________________ From: marcwolf.org To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 10:02 AM Subject: Re: FL: phantom tail syndrome Yep.. And even worse is phantom suit syndrome. You've spent a day in the suit running around entertaining kids by smiling and waving at them.. Which if fun when it's done by a big friendly wolf. ? However when its done by a middle aged man it's totally different. ? Take Care Marcwolf -----Original Message----- >From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of Donkey >Sent: Saturday, 17 September 2011 22:17 >To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org >Subject: FL: phantom tail syndrome > >I was wondering if any other fursuiter seems to have phantom tail syndrome? > >For some odd reason when I sit down I try to move my tail out of the way so I will not sit on it. The problem is that I am not wearing a tail to move out of the way. I am finding this odd and some what disturbing. > >Donkey > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Donkey _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/ user_mailman_register From kmartassassin at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 12:11:00 2011 From: kmartassassin at gmail.com (Jesse Egner) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:11:00 -0500 Subject: FL: phantom tail syndrome In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes hehehehe I was wearing mine all weekend and forgot I had it on a few times. Or I would start swinging my tail and then realize I don't have my tail on. I told my roomies I'm just going to wear it full time so problems don't persist. On Saturday, September 17, 2011, Donkey wrote: > I was wondering if any other fursuiter seems to have phantom tail syndrome? > > For some odd reason when I sit down I try to move my tail out of the way so I will not sit on it. The problem is that I am not wearing a tail to move out of the way. 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Proud & Free To Be A Furry Black Foot. ________________________________ From: Donkey To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 8:17 AM Subject: FL: phantom tail syndrome I was wondering if any other fursuiter seems to have phantom tail syndrome? For some odd reason when I sit down I try to move my tail out of the way so I will not sit on it. The problem is that I am not wearing a tail to move out of the way. I am finding this odd and some what disturbing. Donkey _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kmartassassin at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 14:30:08 2011 From: kmartassassin at gmail.com (Jesse Egner) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 13:30:08 -0500 Subject: FL: phantom tail syndrome In-Reply-To: <8AE8CE82-2C37-408C-909A-780923E092CD@scape-thegoat.com> References: <8AE8CE82-2C37-408C-909A-780923E092CD@scape-thegoat.com> Message-ID: Wish I could wear mine at work :-( On Saturday, September 17, 2011, Scape the Goat wrote: > Hahaha oh man Have I experienced that before ^^ For a time I used to "hold my tail" while scooting between my chair and coworker's desk (so I wouldn't knock pictures and coffee cups off) and he was like "dude, what are you doing with your hand like that??" > I've also had phantom horn too ;) > ~Scape > > > > On Sep 17, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Donkey wrote: > > I was wondering if any other fursuiter seems to have phantom tail syndrome? > > For some odd reason when I sit down I try to move my tail out of the way so I will not sit on it. The problem is that I am not wearing a tail to move out of the way. I am finding this odd and some what disturbing. > > Donkey > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tycho at ws6transam.org Sun Sep 18 16:45:27 2011 From: tycho at ws6transam.org (Tycho Brahe) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 16:45:27 -0400 Subject: FL: Pictures of Animatronic developments In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9b69c7af5e23c1c486d34db2937ffe4c.squirrel@emailmg.startlogic.com> Nice progress, Marc. I've got an eye lid that blinks sitting here on the top of my computer; I am still working on the controls and also need to figure out a mounting system. I'm trying to work out the mechanicals for a composite frame which is generalized enough that it could be embedded in multiple head configurations. The controller that I am using will support six servos, so I could probably use it for other things like ears as well. Progress has slowed way down though as I am picking up an unexpected (and unrelated) second job which may keep me quite busy for the next twelve months! (Email off-list for the details) Movable cameras, based on servo control & a range finding circuit; Now that's kind of neat. I will be interested to hear how it works in real life. -Tycho On Sat, September 17, 2011 10:04 am, marcwolf.org wrote: > Hi Folks > As some of you know I have a keen inerest in special effects. > > Here is an update re my progress with a new very advanced animatronic wolf > suit > > Enjoy www.marcwolf.org/gallery > > Marc > -----Original Message----- > From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org > [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of Fuzzy Roo > Sent: Saturday, 17 September 2011 23:10 > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > Subject: Re: FL: phantom tail syndrome > > > 1) welcome to fursuits. > > And > > 2) boing boing :3 > > Posted from HTC smart(ish)-phone. Damn you auto-correct! > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register -- Inquisitive by nature, bold and honorable through upbringing, brave by necessity. From scape at scape-thegoat.com Tue Sep 13 22:30:21 2011 From: scape at scape-thegoat.com (Scape the Goat) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:30:21 -0400 Subject: FL: Nougat at Burning Man In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7DB39A63-357F-4CD8-8BB0-51BC286F90C3@scape-thegoat.com> You mean "dirty bear" lol -that's a great photo man and Nougatpup is Super Cute ^^ ~Scape On Sep 13, 2011, at 1:16 AM, Chairo wrote: Being fursuit related and all ... Picture 18. From "The Big Picture" at Boston.com http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2011/09/burning_man_at_25_years.html Nougat was first seen at MFF 2008, I still had not finished his feet yet ... now he goes out and gets all dusty in the desert ... dirty doggie. Woof! - Chairo _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/ user_mailman_register -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bdbfox at outgun.com Tue Sep 20 12:41:19 2011 From: bdbfox at outgun.com (Damian K) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:41:19 -0400 Subject: FL: Animal House: Is this a real thing? Message-ID: <20110920164120.61850@gmx.com> Was this a real show on BBC3? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n39w2HR_JA&feature=related -Damian Snuff film blooper reel. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kattywampus at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 15:10:15 2011 From: kattywampus at gmail.com (Kattywampus) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:10:15 -0700 Subject: FL: Animal House: Is this a real thing? In-Reply-To: <20110920164120.61850@gmx.com> References: <20110920164120.61850@gmx.com> Message-ID: I think it's actually a cute idea! It's kinda like.. going back to the basics of furry without it being furry. Also, it seems like it might be a good kind of therapy.. you notice how different you feel when you're behind the suit... I kinda wish overly shy people would give it a try more often, furry or not. --CBK From frysco at gryphonic.org Thu Oct 13 15:49:23 2011 From: frysco at gryphonic.org (Francisco Azinsan) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:49:23 -0700 Subject: FL: FC2012 October Newsletter Message-ID: <20111013194923.GA35809@critter.net> Further Confusion October Newsletter 1.FC:Unleashed 2012 Call for Act Submissions! 2.Wise words from our Chair 3.Badge Art Wanted! 4.Conbook LAST CHANCE FOR ARTISTS AND WRITERS! 5.Calling all panilests 6.Furry Market Place spaces still available AND Dealer Badge Art Wanted! 7.Next Staff Meeting ------------------- 1.FC:Unleashed 2012 Call for Act Submissions! HEYYYYYYYY! It's that time again! It's me, Sprout! Your FC:Unleashed 2012 Lead and MC! And with me again, is Humble! Your dedicated 2nd and Co-MC! :) We're looking forward to another FANTASTIC year putting on another FANTASTIC show for all you awesome folks! :) Some things to look forward to for 2012: - Bigger, Better prizes! $250 for first place! - A new judging category! That's right! That makes 4 chances to win! - The owners of Psycho Donuts will be returning as Judges! - A bigger staff working on the show, which means more awesome! - A longer show! We're going for a FULL 2 hours this time! :) YAY! - And finally, more seating because it's going to be at the CONVENTION CENTER! YAH! We're already working on some big things for the show next year but there's one thing that we need above all else to make the show a success, YOU and YOUR ACTS! So, Humble and I put together this little inspirational video for you to watch so hopefully get those creative juices flowing! http://youtu.be/DkUiqDS4j3M In order to submit an act, we need the following: Name of the group: Names of Group Members/Number of Group Members: Contact information: Length of Act: Description of Act: Will your act require music or be a video?: Do you want your act to be submitted for judging?: Any special needs/props: What type of lighting do you need (pitch black stage at the beginning/end, etc.)? PLEASE SEND AS MUCH OF THIS INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE! This form is VERY important to us for the planning of the show schedule, rehearsals, staying in touch with you, etc. All submission forms, questions, etc. can be sent to: fcu at furtherconfusion.org If you are interested in working as one of our stage crew or are interested in submitting an act idea or just want to be in a skit but don't have an idea of your own, please feel free to e-mail us! The deadline to submit acts is 12/31/2011 at Midnight! We now officially have our own YouTube channel! Yay! You can see our past videos and any that we put up at: http://www.youtube.com/user/furconunleashed Also! We have a twitter account for the show! It's a great resource for show updates and information! Our twitter is: www.twitter.com/fc_unleashed And if you'd like to contact us at all our e-mail is: fcu at furtherconfusion.org We look forward to hearing from folks and seeing the great acts people will be submitting! Please remember, without you guys submitting content for the show, it's just Humble and myself on stage being ridiculous for two hours or an entire show of our obnoxious humor translated into videos and acts, and no one wants to see that.... trust me... :) Thank you for taking the time to read this! Have a great day! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 2. Wise words from our Chair Hello all. We are now entering into the home stretch now more than ever we need your best efforts. Look at your responsibilities, is anything behind? are you waiting on another department? are there issues that need to be dealt with before you can go forward? This is the time to address these issues. October and most of November is the time we really need to finalize. Its hard to get peoples attention during the holiday season. After the holiday season what you need may be too late or in extreme crisis. So there is no more time to put things off. If you need help, for goodness sake ask! Many of you on my staff are getting your first taste of running a furry convention, so don't think you need to go at it alone. Me and my exec staff are here to help in any way possible. But we cant help if we don't know there is problem. You are all wonderful, thank you for your efforts so far. Warm Regards Bosn C Otter Chairman XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 3.Badge Art Wanted! Further Confusion is currently seeking artwork submissions for the 2012 membership badge inserts. Both color and black & white artwork will be accepted, and all artwork will be considered on overall 'look and feel', plus these additional points: - Size: Art must scale to be printed at 4" wide x 2" tall. - Theme: Art must accurately reflect the theme of the con. - Age appropriateness: The art must be suitable for viewing by children. - Branding: 'FC', 'FurCon' or 'Further Confusion' and the convention year, '2012', must be present. Artists submitting images should be aware that there is no payment for badge art chosen, and the artist gives Further Confusion the right to reproduce the image in the con program book and as badge art for FC2012. The artist will be credited on the insert and in the con program book. The artist retains all other copyrights and reproduction rights beyond the above. Submission deadline is November 1st, 2011. All qualifying submissions will be seriously considered and 6 designs will be chosen for use. All artists will be notified by December 1st as to whether or not their submissions have been chosen. Submissions should be in JPG format at best possible quality compression, 300 DPI (1200x600 pixels) minimum. An 8" by 4" original scanned at 300 DPI produces a good file to work with. Badge art submissions should be sent to . In the email specify your website (if you want it listed) and how you wish to be credited should your art be chosen. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 4.Conbook LAST CHANCE FOR ARTISTS AND WRITERS! Once again Further Confusion needs stories and artwork for our convention book. Design and lay-out has begun, and the earlier you can send us work, the better. If you have any questions about submitting material, please check out the requirements and specifications on the convention Web site at If you aren't an artist or writer yourself, tell your friends who are! Deadline has passed but we still considering entries that arrive sooner than later. We are also considering relevant advertisements. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 5.Calling all panilests Have you ever wanted to run your own species panel, but never had the chance to do so? Well you are in luck because! We need volunteers to run: 1. Fox panel 2. Wolf panel 3. Equine panel 4. Feline panel If you wish to fill any of these slots, please contact; Garage Crew reptilearmy(at)gmail(dot)com xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 6.Furry Market Place spaces still available While the Dealer Room is sold out, and the Waiting List is full, there's still some places left that you can purchase to sell your wares in. Head on over to the Furry Market Place page on the Further Confusion website for all the details and restrictions. If you want to speed the process up a little, and you know for sure you are coming to the convention, with or without having a space to sell things, then go pre-register first. Doing so will make the whole purchase of a space go a whole lot faster. FMP page on the FC 2012 Website: http://www.furtherconfusion.org/fc2012/dealers/marketplace See section #3 above about the main badge art. Dealers Room and Furry Market Place are ALSO looking for your artwork for the Dealer Badges, Dealer Assistant Tags, Furry Market Place tags and Furry Market Place Assistant Tags. Most of the above is cribbed from section #3 above, but there are some differences. They will be considered in the same manner as the main badges, but more with a look towards being good for the Dealers and Furry Market Place vendors. - Size: Art must scale to be printed at 3.5" wide x 2" tall (size of a standard US Business card). - Theme: Art must accurately reflect the theme of the con PLUS be suggestive of things being sold (think 'Gift Shop' and NOT 'organ legging' or anything drug-related). - Age appropriateness: The art must be suitable for viewing by children. - Branding MAY be present in the form of 'FC', 'FurCon' or 'Further Confusion' and the convention year, '2012'. But they are NOT required. If you do NOT include branding, they WILL be added and may obscure some of your work if you do not leave space for such. - The area in the bottom center of the artwork (approximately 1/4th to 1/3rd inch tall) will likely become obscured by the dealer/vendor badge information, please keep this in mind in your design, solid shades of a single color are recommended in this space, or leaving it 'white'. As with the badges for main membership, artists submitting images should be aware that there is no payment for badge art chosen, and the artist gives Further Confusion the right to reproduce the image as badge art for FC2012. The badge art MAY or MAY NOT also see reproduction in the con program book. The artist will be credited on the Dealer Flyer and in the con program book if the art also appears there. The artist retains all other copyrights and reproduction rights beyond the above. As with the art for the main membership badge inserts, submission deadline is November 1st, 2011. All qualifying submissions will be seriously considered and up to 4 designs will be chosen for use. All artists will be notified by December 1st as to whether or not their submissions have been chosen. Submissions should be in JPG format at best possible quality compression, 300 DPI (1000x600 pixels) minimum. An 7" by 4" original scanned at 300 DPI produces a good file to work with. Badge art submissions should be sent to . It is better to place a LINK in the email to the art for download rather than attaching the file to the email as this email address is NOT configured to allow large files to be attached, unlike the email address presented for the main con badge art submissions. In the email, specify your website (if you want it listed) and how you wish to be credited should your art be chosen. Please note: Do not submit the same art to both submissions email addresses. And do not send dealer badge art submissions to the non-dealer email address. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 7.Next Staff Meeting The next staff meeting will be Saturday, October 15t at 1p in the Santa Clara ballroom at the san jose Hilton From antimon at earthlink.net Sat Oct 22 01:19:06 2011 From: antimon at earthlink.net (Antimon) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 08:19:06 +0300 (GMT+03:00) Subject: FL: Look what i found Message-ID: <7166050.1319260746254.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Whats up whats up it has the potential to absolutely be the single greatest thing to ever have happened to me and my family http://bloodynaked.web.fc2.com/JustinEdwards45.html bye From antimon at earthlink.net Sat Oct 22 02:19:59 2011 From: antimon at earthlink.net (Anthony Urzi) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 02:19:59 -0400 Subject: FL: Fw: Look what i found Message-ID: <729A866E14964834BA6E87F0428A94BF@antimonPC> Yeah clearly delete this and ignore the link... I'm investigating > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Antimon" > To: ; ; > ; ; > ; ; > > Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 1:19 AM > Subject: Look what i found > > >> Whats up >> whats up >> it has the potential to absolutely be the single greatest thing to ever >> have happened to me and my family >> http://bloodynaked.web.fc2.com/JustinEdwards45.html >> bye > From tycho at ws6transam.org Wed Oct 26 09:19:08 2011 From: tycho at ws6transam.org (Tycho Brahe) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 09:19:08 -0400 Subject: FL: Head construction: Hats, plastic mesh, Balaclava, bike helmets, whats the tradeoffs Message-ID: What are the tradeoffs and advantages of these methods of head construction? Head based on: Bike helmet, with foam / fiberglass modification Baseball cap, with foam buildup Balaclava-based head design with either foam or latex form from a mold Plastic grid fabric underlayment with foam/fabric What I am interested in knowing is what are the advantages to each in terms of comfort, in terms of fit, weight distribution as well as ventilation Shape retention in case of rough house activity, clowning, athletics, comedy & martial arts demos Weight distribution on the head, face & shoulders construction difficulty & labor requirement -- When you are making costumes, do you tend to choose one head construction technique and stick with it, or do you switch, depending on the application? -- When wearing a costume, do you have a preference in terms of which construction technique you like to wear versus another? I haven't given up yet, even though it's been two years. Maybe by the end of 2012 we'll have something. I'd like to get it right on the first try since I might only have one shot at this. -- Tycho -- Inquisitive by nature, bold and honorable through upbringing, brave by necessity. From fosshape at gmail.com Wed Oct 26 12:20:47 2011 From: fosshape at gmail.com (Brian Jeffrey) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:20:47 -0400 Subject: FL: Head construction: Hats, plastic mesh, Balaclava, bike helmets, whats the tradeoffs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Tycho- Most interesting and glad to see your doing your hommework regarding the numerous aspects involved in choosing proper head construction materials and techniques. Not to be self serving, but have you ever worked with or aware of the heat activated material called FOSSHAPE? Should you wants some samples to experimnet with and more information....please provide me with a mailing address and contact me directly at fosshape at gmail.com. Brian Jeffrey The Jeffrey Nonwovens Group, LLC Brentwood NH USA 603-778-0190 phone/fax The Thermoman of Dazian Product Manager-Dazian Fabrics www.dazian.com www.fosshape.com On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Tycho Brahe wrote: > What are the tradeoffs and advantages of these methods of head construction? > > Head based on: > Bike helmet, with foam / fiberglass modification > Baseball cap, with foam buildup > Balaclava-based head design with either foam or latex form from a mold > Plastic grid fabric underlayment with foam/fabric > > What I am interested in knowing is what are the advantages to each in > terms of > > comfort, in terms of fit, weight distribution as well as ventilation > > Shape retention in case of rough house activity, clowning, athletics, > comedy & martial arts demos > > Weight distribution on the head, face & shoulders > > construction difficulty & labor requirement > > -- When you are making costumes, do you tend to choose one head > construction technique and stick with it, or do you switch, depending on > the application? > > -- When wearing a costume, do you have a preference in terms of which > construction technique you like to wear versus another? > > I haven't given up yet, even though it's been two years. Maybe by the end > of 2012 we'll have something. I'd like to get it right on the first try > since I might only have one shot at this. > > -- Tycho > > > -- > Inquisitive by nature, bold and honorable through upbringing, brave by > necessity. > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > From marcwolf at marcwolf.org Sat Oct 29 09:38:41 2011 From: marcwolf at marcwolf.org (marcwolf.org) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 23:38:41 +1000 Subject: FL: Head construction: Hats, plastic mesh, Balaclava, bike helmets, whats the tradeoffs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Very interestng. Is there a supplier in Australia for Fosshape. At the moment I am working with fibreglass but would like to find an alternative Many thanks Marc > -----Original Message----- > From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org > [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of Brian > Jeffrey > Sent: Thursday, 27 October 2011 02:21 > To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org > Subject: Re: FL: Head construction: Hats, plastic mesh, Balaclava, bike > helmets, whats the tradeoffs > > > Hi Tycho- Most interesting and glad to see your doing your hommework > regarding the numerous aspects involved in choosing proper head > construction materials and techniques. Not to be self serving, but > have you ever worked with or aware of the heat activated material > called FOSSHAPE? Should you wants some samples to experimnet with and > more information....please provide me with a mailing address and > contact me directly at fosshape at gmail.com. > Brian Jeffrey > The Jeffrey Nonwovens Group, LLC > Brentwood NH USA > 603-778-0190 phone/fax > The Thermoman of Dazian > Product Manager-Dazian Fabrics > www.dazian.com www.fosshape.com > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Tycho Brahe wrote: > > What are the tradeoffs and advantages of these methods of head > construction? > > > > Head based on: > > Bike helmet, with foam / fiberglass modification > > Baseball cap, with foam buildup > > Balaclava-based head design with either foam or latex form from a mold > > Plastic grid fabric underlayment with foam/fabric > > > > What I am interested in knowing is what are the advantages to each in > > terms of > > > > comfort, in terms of fit, weight distribution as well as ventilation > > > > Shape retention in case of rough house activity, clowning, athletics, > > comedy & martial arts demos > > > > Weight distribution on the head, face & shoulders > > > > construction difficulty & labor requirement > > > > -- When you are making costumes, do you tend to choose one head > > construction technique and stick with it, or do you switch, depending on > > the application? > > > > -- When wearing a costume, do you have a preference in terms of which > > construction technique you like to wear versus another? > > > > I haven't given up yet, even though it's been two years. Maybe > by the end > > of 2012 we'll have something. I'd like to get it right on the first try > > since I might only have one shot at this. > > > > -- Tycho > > > > > > -- > > Inquisitive by nature, bold and honorable through upbringing, brave by > > necessity. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > Fursuit Mail list. > > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register From tycho at ws6transam.org Sat Oct 29 13:47:38 2011 From: tycho at ws6transam.org (Tycho Brahe) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 13:47:38 -0400 Subject: FL: Head construction: Hats, plastic mesh, Balaclava, bike helmets, whats the tradeoffs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0f70a3ef58dde8d4de8a4519fa40ffe2.squirrel@emailmg.startlogic.com> I've got a blue M laboratory oven in which a whole head can be placed and heated evenly to a precision temperature. If a buck can be made from plaster or maybe fiberglass, then maybe the form could be created from this fosshape. The form could then have a couple of cross-pieces placed within the jaw & cheek area to further triangulate the structure, then stuffed with batting in the necessary places. That ought to make it tough and lightweight. I may try & get some pieces to see how stiff & resilient it is to bending. Ultimately I'd think a relatively stiff material that could then also get deformed & have it spring back into shape would be the way to go. Brian's going to send me a 5 x 7 sample to experiment with. On Sat, October 29, 2011 9:38 am, marcwolf.org wrote: > > Very interestng. > Is there a supplier in Australia for Fosshape. At the moment I am working > with fibreglass but would like to find an alternative > > Many thanks > Marc > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org >> [mailto:fursuit-list-bounces at lists.fursuit.org]On Behalf Of Brian >> Jeffrey >> Sent: Thursday, 27 October 2011 02:21 >> To: fursuit-list at lists.fursuit.org >> Subject: Re: FL: Head construction: Hats, plastic mesh, Balaclava, bike >> helmets, whats the tradeoffs >> >> >> Hi Tycho- Most interesting and glad to see your doing your hommework >> regarding the numerous aspects involved in choosing proper head >> construction materials and techniques. Not to be self serving, but >> have you ever worked with or aware of the heat activated material >> called FOSSHAPE? Should you wants some samples to experimnet with and >> more information....please provide me with a mailing address and >> contact me directly at fosshape at gmail.com. >> Brian Jeffrey >> The Jeffrey Nonwovens Group, LLC >> Brentwood NH USA >> 603-778-0190 phone/fax >> The Thermoman of Dazian >> Product Manager-Dazian Fabrics >> www.dazian.com www.fosshape.com >> >> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Tycho Brahe >> wrote: >> > What are the tradeoffs and advantages of these methods of head >> construction? >> > >> > Head based on: >> > Bike helmet, with foam / fiberglass modification >> > Baseball cap, with foam buildup >> > Balaclava-based head design with either foam or latex form from a mold >> > Plastic grid fabric underlayment with foam/fabric >> > >> > What I am interested in knowing is what are the advantages to each in >> > terms of >> > >> > comfort, in terms of fit, weight distribution as well as ventilation >> > >> > Shape retention in case of rough house activity, clowning, athletics, >> > comedy & martial arts demos >> > >> > Weight distribution on the head, face & shoulders >> > >> > construction difficulty & labor requirement >> > >> > -- When you are making costumes, do you tend to choose one head >> > construction technique and stick with it, or do you switch, depending >> on >> > the application? >> > >> > -- When wearing a costume, do you have a preference in terms of which >> > construction technique you like to wear versus another? >> > >> > I haven't given up yet, even though it's been two years. Maybe >> by the end >> > of 2012 we'll have something. I'd like to get it right on the first >> try >> > since I might only have one shot at this. >> > >> > -- Tycho >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Inquisitive by nature, bold and honorable through upbringing, brave by >> > necessity. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Fursuit Mail list. >> > To edit your subscription, visit: >> http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> Fursuit Mail list. >> To edit your subscription, visit: >> http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Fursuit Mail list. > To edit your subscription, visit: > http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register > -- Inquisitive by nature, bold and honorable through upbringing, brave by necessity. From tycho at ws6transam.org Thu Nov 10 09:51:38 2011 From: tycho at ws6transam.org (Tycho Brahe) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:51:38 -0500 Subject: FL: Shoe and glove recommendations for custome feet Message-ID: <1edcc20bad308952542af068bae86060.squirrel@emailmg.startlogic.com> I need to find a good set of shoes for use with the costume. They need to be black, and they need to be secure, but also slip-on. I want EVERYTHING. I want to them to be comfortable, light, good for a few hours of strolling about, and importantly, be good for doing jumps, cartwheels, and martial arts kicks. I am thinking of something like a martial arts shoe, but they are all generally low-tops. I found something like a neoprene & mesh water shoe on Amazon that is designed for outdoor sporting activities as diverse as dance to scuba, and at $34 they don't seem too expensive. If you have a suggestion on your favorite shoe for making costume feet, let me know. Here's a few links to my front-runners, (pun intended) http://www.amazon.com/Bold-Leather-Martial-Arts-Shoes/dp/B003TTB2M4/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1320935968&sr=8-4 http://www.amazon.com/Macho-Martial-Arts-Comet-Shoes/dp/B000YC5JT6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_sg_4 This one has me particularly intrigued: http://www.amazon.com/ZemGear-Playa-High-Barefoot-Metallic/dp/B004WQNFXC/ref=pd_sbs_shoe_31 Of course, Amazon isn't the only game in town but it offers handy links. I could use some help on picking from someone who has already walked this path. -- On the matter of gloves, I have to get some black gloves for the basis of the paw, and since I've gotten four sets of Ironclad gloves in the past, I'd have to say it's my hands-down favorite. So I think the gloves I'll pick up will be another set of Ironclad. These things are awesome, though they are a little short up-top. Nothing that some sewing won't fix, I am sure! However the finger pads are terrific and it's like putting on a second skin. http://www.amazon.com/Ironclad-General-Utility-Gloves-GUG-04-L/dp/B00004XOH8/ref=pd_sbs_hi_2 If someone has something better, please let me know! --Tycho -- Inquisitive by nature, bold and honorable through upbringing, brave by necessity. From mrbunny666 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 10 10:51:57 2011 From: mrbunny666 at yahoo.com (Bunny) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 07:51:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: FL: Shoe and glove recommendations for custome feet In-Reply-To: <1edcc20bad308952542af068bae86060.squirrel@emailmg.startlogic.com> References: <1edcc20bad308952542af068bae86060.squirrel@emailmg.startlogic.com> Message-ID: <1320940317.72757.YahooMailNeo@web125513.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> http://www.walmart.com/ip/Dearfoams-Men-s-Corded-Moccasin-Slippers-Wide-Width/14697260 I used these for my feet. Great sole, comfortable, easy step in. Hot glue, foam & fur all easily attach! ________________________________ From: Tycho Brahe To: fursuit list Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 7:51 AM Subject: FL: Shoe and glove recommendations for custome feet I need to find a good set of shoes for use with the costume. They need to be black, and they need to be secure, but also slip-on. I want EVERYTHING. I want to them to be comfortable, light, good for a few hours of strolling about, and importantly, be good for doing jumps, cartwheels, and martial arts kicks. I am thinking of something like a martial arts shoe, but they are all generally low-tops. I found something like a neoprene & mesh water shoe on Amazon that is designed for outdoor sporting activities as diverse as dance to scuba, and at $34 they don't seem too expensive. If you have a suggestion on your favorite shoe for making costume feet, let me know. Here's a few links to my front-runners, (pun intended) http://www.amazon.com/Bold-Leather-Martial-Arts-Shoes/dp/B003TTB2M4/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1320935968&sr=8-4 http://www.amazon.com/Macho-Martial-Arts-Comet-Shoes/dp/B000YC5JT6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_sg_4 This one has me particularly intrigued: http://www.amazon.com/ZemGear-Playa-High-Barefoot-Metallic/dp/B004WQNFXC/ref=pd_sbs_shoe_31 Of course, Amazon isn't the only game in town but it offers handy links. I could use some help on picking from someone who has already walked this path. -- On the matter of gloves, I have to get some black gloves for the basis of the paw, and since I've gotten four sets of Ironclad gloves in the past, I'd have to say it's my hands-down favorite. So I think the gloves I'll pick up will be another set of Ironclad. These things are awesome, though they are a little short up-top. Nothing that some sewing won't fix, I am sure! However the finger pads are terrific and it's like putting on a second skin. http://www.amazon.com/Ironclad-General-Utility-Gloves-GUG-04-L/dp/B00004XOH8/ref=pd_sbs_hi_2 If someone has something better, please let me know! --Tycho -- Inquisitive by nature, bold and honorable through upbringing, brave by necessity. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Fursuit Mail list. To edit your subscription, visit: http://www.fursuit.org/user_mailman_register -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frysco at gryphonic.org Thu Nov 10 23:40:18 2011 From: frysco at gryphonic.org (Francisco Azinsan) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 20:40:18 -0800 Subject: FL: Further Confusion 2012 - November Newsletter Message-ID: <20111111044018.GA99479@critter.net> Further Confusion 2012 - November Newsletter In this issue: 1. Further Confusion Needs You! 2. Last chance badge submissions 3. FC:Unleashed 2012 Call for Act Submissions! 4. Still time to reserve a hotel room. 5. Furry Market Place and Dealers Den 6. AAE now accepting bids to chair FC2013 7. Next staff meeting 1. Further Confusion Needs You! Further Confusion 2012 is drawing near and we're starting to put the finishing touches on it, we want your help to do that! Lending a few hours of your time to the convention is a great way to help support our community and help improve the the overall experience of the convention for your fellow Furs. Please consider volunteering your time as a member of convention staff or as a go-fur at the convention itself. All are welcome to attend our next Open Staff meeting at 1pm on Saturday November 12, 2011, in Room K at the San Jose Convention Center (on the Marriott side) or send mail to volunteers at furtherconfusion.org. Come, find out how you can help us make Further Confusion even better. 2. Last chance badge submissions Further Confusion is currently seeking artwork submissions for the 2012 membership badge inserts. Both color and black and white artwork will be accepted, and all artwork will be considered on overall 'look and feel', plus these additional points: - Size: Art must scale to be printed at 4" wide x 2" tall. - Theme: Art must accurately reflect the theme of the con. - Age appropriateness: The art must be suitable for viewing by children. - Branding: 'FC', 'FurCon' or 'Further Confusion' and the convention year, '2012', must be present. Artists submitting images should be aware that there is no payment for badge art chosen, and the artist gives Further Confusion the right to reproduce the image in the con program book and as badge art for FC2012. The artist will be credited on the insert and in the con program book. The artist retains all other copyrights and reproduction rights beyond the above. Submission deadline was November 1st, 2011. We are atill considering late submissions with the policy of the sooner we get it the greater the chance of it being used. All qualifying submissions will be seriously considered and 6 designs will be chosen for use. All artists will be notified by December 1st as to whether or not their submissions have been chosen. Submissions should be in JPG format at best possible quality compression, 300 DPI (1200x600 pixels) minimum. An 8" by 4" original scanned at 300 DPI produces a good file to work with. Badge art submissions should be sent to badge-art at furtherconfusion.org. In the email specify your website (if you want it listed) and how you wish to be credited should your art be chosen. 3. FC:Unleashed 2012 Call for Act Submissions! It's that time again! We're looking forward to another FANTASTIC year putting on another FANTASTIC show for all you awesome folks! :) Some things to look forward to for 2012: - Bigger, Better prizes! $250 for first place! - A new judging category! That's right! That makes 4 chances to win! - The owners of Psycho Donuts will be returning as Judges! - A bigger staff working on the show, which means more awesome! - A longer show! We're going for a FULL 2 hours this time! :) YAY! - And finally, more seating because it's going to be at the CONVENTION CENTER! YAH! We're already working on some big things for the show next year but there's one thing that we need above all else to make the show a success, YOU and YOUR ACTS! So, our FC:U! leads have put together this little inspirational video for you to watch so hopefully get those creative juices flowing! In order to submit an act, we need the following: - Name of the group - Names of Group Members/Number of Group Members - Contact information - Length of Act - Description of Act - Will your act require music or be a video? - Do you want your act to be submitted for judging? - Any special needs/props - What type of lighting do you need (pitch black stage at the beginning/end, etc.)? PLEASE SEND AS MUCH OF THIS INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE! This form is VERY important to us for the planning of the show schedule, rehearsals, staying in touch with you, etc. All submission forms, questions, etc. can be sent to: fcu-2012 at furtherconfusion.org Also, all of this information is on the YouTube video if you click on the, "Show More" button underneath the video. If you are interested in working as one of our stage crew or are interested in submitting an act idea or just want to be in a skit but don't have an idea of your own, please feel free to e-mail us! The deadline to submit acts is midnight at the end of December 31st, 2011. We now officially have our own YouTube channel! Yay! You can see our past videos and any that we put up at: Also! We have a twitter account for the show! It's a great resource for show updates and information! Our twitter is: We look forward to hearing from folks and seeing the great acts people will be submitting! Please remember, without you guys submitting content for the show, it's just Humble and Sprout on stage being ridiculous for two hours or an entire show of our obnoxious humor translated into videos and acts, and no one wants to see that.... trust us... 4. Still time to reserve a hotel room We've got a great venue at the San Jose Convention Center featuring two very nice hotels, The San Jose Marriott and the San Jose Hilton. Both of these hotels offer excellent guest services, beautiful accommodations and are connected to the San Jose Convention Center itself. Room are still available in both hotels! If you know you're coming and have not reserved a room yet, consider doing so. You wouldn't want to get caught out in the rain at the last minute!For more information about our hotels, our hotel FAQ and to book rooms, start at . 5. Furry Market Place and Dealers Den Furry Market Place application time closes December 1st. It's coming up on that time of year again. There are still 2 spaces left in the Furry Market Place at the time of this writing. But when they are gone, that it. Also, regardless of whether we get those two spaces sold or not, when it becomes December, we will be closing the application process and no further spaces will be made available. So, if you need a place to sell your wares, and your wares are ones acceptable to 'General Audiences', then head on over to the website's Furry Market Place page (found through the Dealers page) and download an application. Fill it out and send it in! Dealer's Room Waiting List - watch your email November and December are the most common time for someone to discover that they are not going to be able to make it to the convention in January. So, if you have your name on the waiting list for the Further Confusion 2012 Dealer Room, make sure you check your email frequently. And if you have changed your email address, contact dealers at furtherconfusion.org with your new information and we will update our listings. And for any dealer who does have a table that is reading this: If you find that you won't be at the convention in January after all, please contact us at dealers at furtherconfusion.org as soon as possible if you need to cancel and get a refund. This will give us time to offer your space to one of the 31 people that are patiently waiting on the waiting list. Thank you. 6. AAE now accepting bids to chair FC2013 Every year, AAE, Inc, the parent corporation opens up bids for running the new years convention. It's that time of year again. AAE, Inc, is announcing that the bid process for FC2013 is now open. For detailed information on how to submit a bid to run Further Confusion 2013, please visit . The Deadline for Bid submissions is December 1st, 2011. 7. Next staff meeting The next staff meeting is November 12th, Saturday. The time will be 1pm in the located in the San Jose Convention Center, Room K, located on the first floor near the Marriott. The remaining staff meetings prior to the convention will take place on December 17th and January 7th. -- Further Confusion info at furtherconfusion.org